Do People Really Know What Roe v. Wade Is? | Talking With People

what's difference between the the the now child breastfeeding versus the child who is relying on the nutrients inside the body yeah um well it's the the hu the person that uh had the child inside their body is [Music] where am i going so after news broke uh from the leak that the supreme court will allegedly overturn roe v wade of course the media jumped on it and this happened if the court overturns roe v wade it will be a direct assault on freedom 69 of americans say they do not want the court to overturn versus roe v wade if this is issued over 20 states there's a trigger where abortion will automatically be banned i am just i cannot tell you the outrage i feel at this decision the republicans have been working toward this day for decades women will die [Music] what are the next things that are going to be attacked i'm killing the baby okay that seems bad but that could be because most americans don't actually know what the overturning of roe v wade really means so contrary to gotcha journalism with man in the street we decided to uh just go and talk with people and find out actually if you guys do have a couple minutes we're just asking have you been fi have you been following the roby wade overturning what is it the uh the federal supreme court the abortion law yeah oh yeah okay so about that yeah do you mind if asking we're just kind of getting a feel for everybody where they line up on this what what do you think about it it's a horse so roby wade yeah it's the supreme court there was a leak we're assuming it's true it seems like it's true they're going to be overturning roe v wade which is like they're going to be letting people aboard the chart so this is actually a good question and this isn't because a lot of people didn't really understand this a lot of people think that overturning roe v wade means there'll be a federal ban on abortion yeah it just means that it'll go back to the states where states can make their own laws if they want to have restrictions and if states don't want to have restrictions they don't i think that's true bro i think it should be a female decision because it's her body it's you know so if the man was carrying the baby i feel like he'll be up to the man because he's the woman you know god has this woman gets to carry the baby didn't she hurt what about the the law though of like supreme court putting it back to the states does that seem you can't put laws on people's bodies and people's off i assume you know that guy no no no no no no [Music] yeah so you don't think that states should be allowed to have restrictions on them no i don't think the federal order states should have it i think it should be up to the to the parents you know it's a parental parental name put on the a's depending on age you think it should be restrictions another way of controlling yeah yeah controlling like it's only what we do basically you know so you say it's a you think it's a good thing to control the population it depends on what they're doing because it seemed like like back in the days playing business all in like black people's neighborhoods yeah well do you know planned parenthood margaret sanger was they set up shop aboard these abortion clinics in black neighborhoods because she wanted to abort more black babies yeah so they can have the race going on right you know so that's a but that's a bad thing if you're saying that yeah that maybe does that maybe make you think about abortion i feel like i feel like i feel like this right we in america right at the end of the day right yeah you're supposed to be like freedom you see me yeah you know so then today why you know i'm saying we don't have the freedom to do you know what we want to do it's not really like you know i mean i understand but can you not so the other side of the argument that people have is i'm curious because he said woman so he's basically this is what i'm saying he wants to punt he wants to go to you know have her answer he want to piss you off yeah yeah but you understand the other side of the argument is if someone you know scientists and biologists say well it's not really that person's body if it's a baby in their body that's why for example like texas their limitation is a heartbeat once there's a separate heartbeat they're saying you can't have an abortion yeah okay does that make sense that makes a lot of sense because this in the heartbeat didn't i think he said that's not murder right yeah so then maybe you would so you think texas should be allowed to place a limitation like at a heartbeat maybe how the heartbeat seemed like everybody have one yeah a specification of once it gets to a certain standard okay stage you should be able to and should be able not to would you definitely yeah one thing has a heartbeat i don't think okay so you said so this is your is it your youtuber together yeah so you have three kids you got four kids so you did the ultrasound yeah and i just had my first twins so you remember that first of all yeah congratulations they're tough yeah by the way anyone who tells you that boys and girls aren't different go and have one boy and one girl twin you know she's she starts talking really young and she's no verbal he's just but then he's just jumping and running oh yeah level yeah yeah yeah it's not even close one more action oh yeah they're both that you know all the riches yeah all the rich white liberals are trying to be like ah it's all society i'm like no no i have not taught anything of these twins literally she grabs something she tries to put it in her mouth he grabs something and tries to hit you with it yeah that's right what he does yeah exactly exactly so so you remember that first ultrasound where you saw the heartbeat yeah so you you would say that's at that point that's a lot like oh guys okay well then look and that's so that's kind of why i was having this conversation because the supreme court before this ruling now overturning roe v wade texas wouldn't have had the right to say okay after a heartbeat you can't have an abortion so now the overturning of roe v wade means texas can't have that ball so that seems like something that yeah this is the only thing man texas is always like that they don't want it well they couldn't though it used to be it was technically illegal for texas to do that yeah they're becoming more liberal but a heart so we would see i think that's a good place to find common ground in other words if people who are abortion all the way up to nine months and being a mother i would assume you're like that's ridiculous yeah then you know some people think no abortions but a heartbeat good place to start yeah all right i think that's a lot of people in the country you know but unfortunately you see the protests you see the media making it seem like something it isn't and people go nuts yeah it seems like a lot of people are kind of like you in a sliding scale people just don't know what they want yeah what it is people don't know what they want yeah because a heartbeat is you know you can start hearing it now it's six weeks but certainly ten weeks yeah because yeah i remember seeing that little heart be like oh my gosh as i don't know about you as a dad but for me i was just paranoid or i'm like all right just make sure she doesn't take any stairs and falls down then like because we can't do anything yeah but he's not in us we're just like just don't do anything that could hurt the baby keep her in a bubble yeah that's exactly like a bubble wipe all right well thank you guys i appreciate it thanks for tuning in on that too what's your name by the way sarah sarah nice to meet you sir what's your name sierra sierra sierra and sarah i'll try and get us straight so uh but we're just asking people today have you been following sort of the you know the overturn the leak of the alleged overturning of robbie wade uh i i'm not really like falling like completely okay and you nodded your head yet i mean i followed it for well not i the leak is horrible but i followed like you know the abortion controversy for a while i've had my stance on like you know i think it's we should have saved abortions okay so what do you what do you think about the robbie wade you know about it being overturned you know it likely happens i think i think it's a war on women to be honest i mean i and i think it affects everybody okay not just women also um i mean you know if man's out cheating he doesn't want his mistress getting pregnant she gets pregnant what can you do that's kind of letting a piece of guy off the hook though isn't it i mean yeah yeah but me too yeah i shouldn't be cheating yeah um what is i what is it that you said war on women what is it that you think will happen with to women specifically if roe v wade is you know overturned let's act as though it's going to be overturned i know it's a leak but yeah um i just think it just takes away that choice and it just it just sucks but let me ask why do you think it takes away that choice like what do you think happens when roe v wade gets overturned i think this is something that a lot of people maybe are a little confused about well it gives the states the choice to um give the states the choice to choose what they want to do but i think i i mean i may be wrong but i think some states have already banned plan b something like that there was a rumor about i think it was tennessee or minnesota mississippi yes something like that okay it just means you have to get it from a doctor and not just get it like pick it up and say oh no just pick it up i mean i guess that makes sense but yeah i mean it just sucks i don't really have much more than that i just think but do you think that the states should have the right to be able to determine abortion laws um cause you'll still it won't change the laws and like yeah that's all robbie weighed over turning means that colorado you know can have abortion like they have all the way up until nine months yeah and texas can have a heartbeat bill yeah i mean we don't know yet i guess we'll see what happens well that is what's going to happen right now it's not there won't be a federal ban on abortion so it's just it'll happen on a state level where states can place restrictions which they weren't allowed to before yeah and now it allows the states to place restrictions yeah and that's based on like people voting for that in each state right yeah they're representatives yeah i mean the overturning of roe v wade is the supreme court justices obviously so that's not a a voting issue you're going to really vote them they have lifetime appointments but it's it's after that yeah the people of texas want to have a limitation more of oklahoma they can do it and if the people of colorado or virginia or california don't want to they don't have to rather than like federally yeah federally what happened between with roe v wade was basically uh particularly in the first trimester states were not allowed to place restrictions and so recently you know there was a bill that there was a case that went up and challenged it but they said well we should have the right to in this state place restrictions uh in our state and they said yeah roe v wade is kind of bad law because you know there's no constitutional right to an abortion um so it should be determined by the states yeah i mean i guess i mean everybody has a different opinion so you know that's all but we're gonna go get so much dude sure yeah sarah sarah all right okay all right so darien we're just talking with people now you know there were these big protests here a few days ago okay so we didn't really want to get into that parade you don't end up having very productive conversations um have you you've heard about the leak robbie wade being overturned he stephen just told me about it actually okay you know i haven't been keeping up but uh he was telling me about you know how some people are taking it as if uh they're just abolishing abortion that's how that's what a lot of the protests were yeah right but from what it is was saying that that's not the case right so i'd like to get them more get to know a little bit more information about that but okay so uh well we kind of have two separate issues i guess sort of and it doesn't really matter we've addressed this i don't know if you're pro-life or pro-choice it depends it depends on how far along the pregnancy is okay that relates exactly to roe v wade so roe v wade basically was a case where they specifically barred states from setting any kind of limitations on abortion in the first trimester and so some laws like the texas heartbeat law there were the case in mississippi that went up to the supreme court the supreme court just ruled that you know what states can determine their own abortion laws okay so with roe v wade being overturned it does mean that some states can outright ban abortion if they want or they can place limitations like you know heartbeat which is well within the first trimester and then a place like colorado or virginia or new jersey they can have their late-term abortion laws which they have they allow abortions well into the third trimester it just makes it uh a scenario where it goes back to the states they can determine their own laws regarding abortion limitations right okay so that's the fallout from it what do you think about that i think states should have their own i think they should have their own depending on where you are um but i don't see a problem also with everyone being under one ideology as well um you said depending on how far along the child is i would say it's almost murder if the child is you know alive and it's not just a fetus right you know but um you know earlier along in the pregnancy i'm definitely pro-choice in regards to that okay um when when would you determine kind of what say after the first try yesterday after the first trimester after 12 weeks okay what about you know the fact for example that like there is a heartbeat before that that there's a separate heartbeat so that's the basis for some of these laws that if there's a separate heartbeat that you can't abort or you know the thing that for example the toes are developed or certain organs so it just i wonder what changes for example from week 11 to week 12 right and this is a conversation that everyone has and for me i don't know like if you know when the baby i i would say this because like you said i don't know exactly when the heartbeat you know starts but i would say if you know if the heartbeat is if it's a lie you know i would say i would i would say adoption would be you know a better a better choice as opposed to you know taking a life well you get the heartbeat like at six weeks and then you get a more developed heart it's like they say it's a tube but the heart develops and about well i don't are you a dad or all do you have anything oh yeah yeah okay so did you ever do the ultrasound where you see the heartbeat oh yeah yeah so that's well before the end of the first trimester you're actually right about that yeah and did you feel like that was alive when you saw that yeah exactly i do yeah i mean like for me it was crazy like oh my gosh i better not i don't know about you but i had twins i was just paranoid where i was like all right i just gotta make sure you don't fall down the stairs because there's nothing much you can do exactly it's the life you need to protect you know exactly so i'm all for that so that's why i say first trimester only because of my lacking of knowledge of when the heartbeat actually starts okay so then you would in other words before roe v wade being overturned a heartbeat bill would not be allowed because that's in the first trimester but now with roby weight overturned states can set a heartbeat bill so you would say okay they should have the right to do that estate uh i would say i'm not not after the harvey no well that's what i'm saying a state candidate so then yeah so it's pretty reasonable then it seems like you know you're kind of like most americans where most americans consider themselves pro-choice until a certain point right it gets a little bit difficult when you ask americans to define where that point is i'm kind of like we just experienced now but i do think that it's you know being a little mis represented if you've seen the protests and i'm sure you probably might have been under the impression at one point that overturning roe v wade was a ban on abortion right yeah that's not the case it just goes back to the states do you think that at the very least that's a reasonable decision for them that is a reasonable decision yeah okay that's about it yeah and i think you agree with most americans and i think if you uh if you take the time to do like a little more research on it don't take my word for it i promise you i'm not lying but i encourage you to assume that i am lying you know make sure you talk with other people about it because the more people know what roe v wade is and then it goes to the states then we'll have less division in this country as opposed to yelling about banning abortion and it not being you know my body my choice all the way up until nine months i mean let me ask you this because the most radical abortion bills that they would consider on those on the left would be things like the heartbeat pill that exists right now um or like the mississippi law but in states like colorado or places like virginia they can abort all the way up to nine months oh wow what do you think is let's say we take the extreme abortion all the way up until nine months or a complete ban what would you be more comfortable with because one is already happening abortion up till nine months it's happening right now the band doesn't exist like i'm pro-life so i would say a complete band over all the way up to nine months if we're going if i have to choose an extreme yeah you would choose i would choose yeah which is the band i think that's that's not a poll that's out there i think probably a lot of americans would feel that way we're not there that's not what we have to decide right right but the truth is a lot of people don't know that right now this happens in many states right i mean there are some states i don't know if you're aware of uh it was elizabeth warren klobuchar a few democrats voted against the infants born alive act and what was happening uh in places like i believe illinois virginia i don't know the exact states babies that survived abortions were being left to die and the bill just demanded that babies that survived abortions just be given be legally required the same uh medical attention that all babies are given as opposed to just because you don't want them but they already survived the abortion that come out of the birth canal and there were a lot of democrats who voted against that really because they thought that was infringing on abortion rights that's not right man not right they do deserve the same treatment now i will like are there any birth defects that go along with survival not necessarily no it's just if a baby survived an abortion that you know they attempted to abort and the baby survived it um there were instances where they weren't being given medical that's not right yeah there's actually you can watch an interview with the governor of virginia saying that what would happen in that instance is we would make keep the baby comfortable and then have a discussion with the mother as to what she wants to do right meaning you could still let that baby die and that's happening today so i in my opinion that's more extreme than the overturning of roe v wade which just gives it back to the states because they'll still be able to do that in virginia as sick as it is to me but they'll still be able to do it yeah that is safe yeah isn't it yeah it turns your stomach yeah it is actually as a father how old are your uh your little ones i have uh 10 12 10 12 and 4. okay so they're spaced out there so i'm gonna say you're not looking you're not looking to an empty nest for a while with that four-year-old one of them will be telling you he hates you or she hates you while the other one still thinks you're the best you know so balance your self-esteem yeah oh thank you darren i appreciate it [Music] hello hey all right you got five minutes to talk great what's your name casey casey all right okay well that ties in perfectly because we're talking about the you know all these protests there a couple days ago hear about the roe v wade situation sure absolutely i've been following that yes okay so first let me ask you you can see yourself pro-choice or like pro-choice with limitations how would you define um i'm definitely pro-choice okay you know um i'm definitely pro-choice okay what's your opinion on the it's a leak right now obviously sure but if it's true the overturning of roe v wade um it's ridiculous you know as a woman i think it's astronomical how we could consider and no offense to you but how a heterosexual male can tell me what i should and should not do with my body okay and what that actually means um i think there's so many stipulations that go into this you know there's a lot of circumstances and just you know i was told i couldn't have children um i'm sorry it's okay but so this topic is like super sensitive to me and of course in my family um but i know because you wouldn't need to have an abortion i wouldn't need to have one um but let's just say the opportunity ever arose itself um there's all kind of medical conditions and reasons topical pregnancies uh tubal pregnancies things that have happened to your body um that require abortions for medical reasons for us as women to like literally live and survive um so for you to say i'm you're forcing me to either go through that experience and or heaven forbid you know my kid is you know there's all kind of testing that goes on early in your pregnancy sure um and they'll let you know that there's fluid on the brain for a baby or something like that and they do not recommend you um continuing off that pregnancy i'm also 31 and so a lot of us are getting pregnant later in life so sometimes that's an issue right and it could be a health risk for the mother and the baby so whatever your reasoning is more importantly you could just be 18 and decide that that's not the decision that you want to make today and you're not comfortable with that you could be a victim of rape i don't care what your reasoning is i think it's a hundred percent your choice to decide so none of those other things matter then we could just eliminate all that just do you think people should get abortion for whatever reason i think you should be able to make any decision as far as hipaa laws are concerned for yourself and your body at any time so what is your uh because a lot of people have different interpretations or understandings of what the overturning of roe v wade is actually means yeah what is your interpretation of what would happen if roe v wade my interpretation is that it doesn't matter what your reasoning is and you can correct me if i'm wrong that abortions will now be illegal or released in the state of texas um for anybody no correct me no it's not no it's and that's it just gives it gives the right to states to make their own laws regarding abortion restrictions sure colorado you know new jersey virginia of california states that have abortion laws all the way up until and including nine months they can still do that so let me ask you a question do you think texas is gonna vote in which direction well i i don't want to get i'll get into my opinion in a second um but i want to sort of discuss the issue of whether we agree on the fact that it's good or bad law so it's not it's not it's not banning abortion it puts it back to the states i don't agree with that okay so what do you think should happen that you think there should be a federal uh it should be enshrined in the federal law that abortion is a constitutional right i think it took a long time for roe versus way to even become about and to pass and that if we aren't careful history will continue to repeat itself over and over again so the fact that that law is what it is i don't know why we're going back and trying to now tweak that doesn't make sense well are you um and forgive me this is not meant to be a gotcha at all it's law is complicated and roby weight is complicated you know that's why i had roe v wade then yet planned parenthood versus casey and these it's always been a complex yes exactly uh see we tied us called the callback but uh roe v wade the issue was right roe v wade was sort of uh under the guise it was it was settled into the guys of the 14th amendment the due process cost okay so there's no constitutional right to an abortion and essentially because you just mentioned sort of the hipaa laws and the idea was that under the due process clause there's a right to privacy which also isn't necessarily a constitutional right but under the due process clause that a woman uh had that right to privacy with her doctor and allowed states to set limitations only after the first trimester so it banned state setting limitations within the first trimester absolutely okay and then you have states that for example have like a heartbeat bill things that occur before the second trimester that kind of kicked it up to the supreme court and they looked at it and this is something that even ruth bader ginsburg said but they said you know what this is this is just sort of bad law so it has to go back to the states okay so that was the basis for roe v wade um does that change your opinion at all that there really is there's no constitutional right to an abortion not necessarily because when we when we talk about first trimester i think i also don't agree that after your first trimester you should be looking at options as far as abortion right because at this point your fetus is a full-grown fetus you know there's things that are happening your baby's developing so i i understand up until that point okay but on a state-to-state basis or a federal basis to me i guess in that first trimester it's still up to me and my doctor so so it sounds like you're saying you do support eliminating abortion as an option after the first trimester i do i agree with that okay um what changes for example from week 11 to week 12 that makes it no longer acceptable eyeballs fingers toes hair i mean you know you're going from this small cell i mean just but that happens before the second trimester well but the thing is why is plan b a thing right there's a reason why day after something you can go into cvs right now and a young lady can say i know i did whatever i did last night and i'm going to make sure everyone protected myself so i did what i did i'm assuming sex sure yeah and so to me you saying okay here at this point in time there's people who are i'm not a doctor right obviously uh i wouldn't be wearing this neither am i i don't know if you can tell so you know somebody somewhere sat down and said this makes sense who gets paid a lot more money than me and understands the anatomy of the human body but yeah i know that's kind of the issue though right is because no one has sit down and said it made sense for example in a place like colorado you can have an abortion all the way up until eight nine months yeah no i don't agree with that okay and that'll still be the law in colorado and in virginia you know you had the governor where there were babies who survived abortions and they were still being allowed to die because technically they tried to abort them they'll still be allowed to do that in virginia well what's the difference between that and some girl throwing herself down the stairs people are going to do what they want to do when they want to do it well no this is about babies who were born who survived abortions and they were just leaving it in a room to die sure but you're saying in colorado at eight months it's still legal for them to get abortions which i didn't know that's what you're saying yes okay so if a lady's eight months pregnant and she's just in dire whatever mental state and she decides she doesn't want to have that kid what does this stop her from jumping off the top of this building and or pushing herself down the stairs well i don't know hopefully there'd be some bars on the window we don't know we don't know right but i'm just i'm just trying to understand your position because this is something that's obviously a heated issue and i'm trying to see where there is common ground it sounded to me like you were saying after the second trimester no abortion but now it sounds like you're saying yeah it should be fine for a place like colorado to have abortions at 78. no i'm not saying that at all i literally said i do not agree with that so you still think but what i don't think is that we should go so far back that we're saying every state should make their own opinion before the first trimester after the second trimester because to me i live in texas i'm originally from california and i know we vote very differently yes between i hope that you're not one of those who comes from california brings your politics here because he left for a reason right i didn't leave my choice my parents probably here oh so i i think views are going to very much differ in living in the bible belt i've seen yeah you know how that can affect people um i've seen how it affects me as a black person a hundred and twelve percent so uh 12. what's the 12 percent yeah what's the 12 past 100. i literally went to a restaurant when i was eight years old and they told my cheerleading coach that i couldn't go into their restaurant because i was black and that was in texas and it would never happen that's terrible so there's just things that definitely happened in california okay i appreciate talking about california this is really fun okay you're saying no racists in california come on there's no way ever been to venice i've seen some i live in california too i definitely see that i've seen racists everywhere yeah yeah definitely some neo-nazis in california thank you wasn't there a movie like american history x or something was it was it was that longview texas i don't know maybe tyler it's a really nasty way have you been following us the roe v wade situation all right can i ask you about it because we're strong with people have cause you know there were these protests here all across this lawn a couple days ago and that's what we didn't ask people there because it was pretty heated you know and you don't really end up having good conversations i'm stephen by the way hi i'm tammy tammy yes i just follow the y or i y okay so tammy you said that you're pro you're kind of you're pro-choice yeah so okay have you been following the you haven't been following the rovi wade situation yes i have okay so what is your opinion on it's a leak but a ledge but it seems like it's very likely the court will overturn roe v wade what's your opinion on that as i mean from your perspective as someone who's pro-choice from what i understand but specifically on this kind of piece of law um i hope they don't um revoke the entire roe versus wade legislation okay i just hope that they make whatever current modifications they need to for you know 2020 and to the future yeah so i don't know a lot of people are because it gets confusing right with some of the supreme court law and precedent um what happens with roe v wade a lot of people think that means there's a ban on abortion it doesn't what it means if it gets overturned is it goes back to states so the states can place restrictions or a state can ban abortion if they want uh and then states like colorado like new jersey like california that have abortions you know all the way up until nine months can still do that but it's on a state-by-state basis uh what do you what do you think about that considering that that's what would what would happen um i hope the local um you know state legislation they will weigh both sides the pro-choice and the pro-life yeah and um when i vote i'll vote pro-choice okay you vote pro-choice but do you think it's it's at least a reasonable decision to say states should have the right to decide yes uh-huh yeah okay so you're not against the overturning of it but you would like in your state for there to be access to abortion yes uh-huh okay that seems to be a lot of people uh most people but the media sort of framed it as though it's an outright ban on abortion right which scares people and it's not really what happens well let me ask you this uh your pro-choice if you were to vote in your state should there be any limitations on abortion at all where where do we draw that line let's say in texas what would you like to see if you could wave your magic wand and have you know any type of laws um well what i would like to see is the the medical community work with the families and help them to make those decisions you know it's a private health decision and so i hope that um they will seek counsel from their medical providers do you think do you believe that there's a cut off as far as abortion you know where it should no longer be allowed yes uh-huh yes i think the doctors can help well when do you think that should be though for example so it sounds like you're not supporting for example states that have abortion up until and including nine months does that seem yeah that seems too far yeah that's too far um unless um like i said um it's case-by-case medical case by case and unless something is wrong with the fetus and the doctor has already determined that there something has to happen yeah which is very rare obviously and they usually catch that well before nine months there's no medical reason for a nine month abortion or eight month or seven months so if you're living in texas where would you like to see that line drawn you know because different states will be able to establish a different laws would you like it to be you know no abortions after the first trimester second trimester heartbeat where should the line be drawn for general abortions um again i say just i think you should seek help with your medical provider and let your ob gyn specialist assist you with making those decisions okay yeah so so no limitations at the state level yes that's correct okay yeah all right uh in texas into texas all right well there you go i appreciate it thank you very much for taking the time so all right what's your name i'm bella nice to meet you nice to meet you bella that's a pretty name until thorn had to ruin it for everything yeah i know right oh my gosh so uh bella are you uh are you familiar with even following the roby way okay so let me ask you the first question what do you think about the fact that it was leaked well i think that in itself is very scary because the privacy leak yeah you know and i just don't understand how something like that could have happened right it is pretty scary and unprecedented i mean yeah the court is sort of must be immune from that yeah okay so what's your opinion on the assuming that it's all correct and it's been mostly confirmed the overturning of roe v wade i just i mean to answer your question just very simply i just don't understand the whole debate whereas like like women should just be able to govern their own bodies okay you know well that's a different conversation right it's like where life begins and if it's your body or not before we get to that we can talk about that if you'd like to but i i'd like to sort of talk because a lot of people don't really know what overturning roe v wade means yeah and that's by design from the media they've obfuscated made it complicated what is your impression of what happens if roe v wade is overturned well from what i've understood isn't it correct that um the whole thing is about like the document was leaked and i had a decision regarding how women's bodies should be governed no so basically just you know roe v wade i don't know if let's go back to kind of roe v wade when it happened roe v wade there's no constitutional rights to an abortion right it was oh yeah that's sort of predicated on the 14th amendment the due process clause which they interpreted as a right to privacy and so women with their doctor and all roe v wade really what it did was it said that states could not place any restrictions uh on pregnancies or on abortions right in the first trimester all that happens is if it gets gets overturned is that changes where it goes on a state-by-state basis so california can make their own law yeah texas can make their own law so if you want to have abortion all the way up until third trimester eight months like some states nine months like some states they can do it in a place like texas would legally be allowed to have like a heartbeat though right yeah i think i think it is difficult to determine all of that but at the same time i mean i just think that but going back to the states like i think it's i think it's odd if we have if we're leaving the choice up to states to make that decision that makes sense like i feel like holistically it should just be legal okay well what it's just saying is it's not illegal federally right right and states can place restrictions that they want right so i mean there are a lot of things right that we let states do property taxes i mean the way you do your education for example just public schools some states have more agreements with charter schools so this is just another example of going to states rights is that i guess the question is concerning you know there were protests here and across the country that have gotten violent and outside of supreme court justice's houses which i think we agree on the leak is a bad thing the doxing is a bad thing yeah yeah really do we really think that the the end result of overturning it is that extreme that it warrants that kind of a reaction it's not a ban on abortion yeah it's not a ban on abortion i just i mean i'm sorry if i sound redundant but no no i think the whole the whole premise i think the whole thing is is just silly when we're like talking about what women can and can't do with their bodies and their choices yeah well then that gets to the idea it's not really agreed upon yeah right now if you want to get to that conversation we can have that conversation i'll tell you i am i am pro-life um just so you know i think that roe v wade is bad law uh and there are a lot of even ruth bader ginsburg said that really wasn't a good ruling because it's not a there's no constitutional right to an abortion she said she thought that at some point it would probably be undone so that's a separate issue people protesting sort of the changing of the law on the issue of you know what women do with their own bodies and this is why it goes to states can you at least understand because i can understand why you would say that i can understand the argument um can you understand why someone else in particularly states and their legislators might say okay but when there's another heartbeat it's not your own body when there's another pair of eyes fingers toes it's not your own body and they have the right as they do in other state issues to determine what limitations are can you understand why people think it's not it's very different from any other issue and that they don't believe it's your body when there's another i understand that perspective because at that point when you start to have a heartbeat at a certain period of time it does become another person involved okay because developmentally right but i i think i think i do agree with the fact that there should be at least some kind of cut off point but the whole thing with like when do you think that cut off should be i mean i feel like if there isn't a cutoff then at that point it's just kind of like well you had a long time to decide whether or not this was right gonna be the choice for you right so i can't give you an exact number but i feel like at least before the fetus is fully or at least partially fully formed yeah i feel like that would be a reasonable one that'd be reasonable yeah okay which is what most states will be doing yeah um you know can i ask you and this is just hey uh lane can i grab this from you just because this is also i think this might help with americans because a lot of people so let me kind of give you an example right in colorado for example in virginia they can do abortions all the way up to here yeah texas says not after here right a heartbeat bill about this area where do you think the cutoff should be well and this shows you kind of where things have developed and what what has developed i mean it is a good question but it's hard to say i mean it definitely shouldn't be anywhere over here okay but i mean i would say at least like over here probably okay i would imagine so that still includes the first trimester yeah which roe v wade said you couldn't place restrictions right there at week 11 and 12. yeah and that's how that's what was sort of brought that's not sort of that's what was brought to the supreme court because there were regulations that were created in this range and it was technically illegal for the states to do that well it's just it's hard to say it it's it's an odd perspective but i i just think that women should just be able to decide for themselves but should they be able to decide for themselves here and this is the thing because the question is roby wade i think is bad law but if someone is going to say it's good law then it is incumbent upon them to say when right when when is okay and when's not and it seems like you believe there should be some limitations well think about it this way think about women who do make the choice to have an abortion they're already depending on their perspective but they're already gonna be dealing with psychological repercussions from the abortion yeah that's very common yeah there's a lot of trauma i feel like regardless at what state of development the baby is in i mean it's it's what it's a choice that they have to make so even at these weeks yeah so you would so you support laws that allow abortion up until all the way nine months i would say i'm just a little confused but you said depending on where they are developmentally like those babies are they're they can be born right there are plenty of babies i mean my twins were born before i know i i probably contradicted myself but um and this doesn't that's why i show it it's the opposite of a gotcha i'm trying to understand your perspective because i will say you know to me the only way to consistently draw the line is that fertilization once there's new dna right uh that's separate from the mother and the father it's a new genetic code that determines everything from you know hand size eye color male pattern baldness um versus something arbitrary right because i think then you get into the territory of up until nine months and uh i mean we're no longer a discussion of viability right if you support that then that just means it doesn't matter if the baby is viable or not i have to run okay because this is the end of my lunchbox but i will just leave you with the fact that i think this is definitely an interesting discussion and i think it's really good to explore it and i do see your sign i see your viewpoint thank you and i think that i think i would have to take a little bit more time myself to really think about exactly i think that's very reasonable everything i think we all should yeah as opposed to yelling at each other you bring up good points but at the same time i mean there's just a lot of i understand i understand where you're coming from i understand that a lot a lot of people feel that way would you would we before you leave we at least agree that the overturning of roe v wade has been a little misrepresented in that a lot most people think it's a ban on abortion there is the possibility it could be clouded i mean also when you're dealing with mass social media right it's very easy for things to be misinterpreted or even mainstream media like abc and cnn and then you're gonna get into the whole snowden thing like everything's like like everything's nothing is real yeah or like big brother's watching 1984. big brother's definitely watching i think we both agree that big brother is definitely watching at this point i mean at this point i could have somebody a department of misinformation in a federal government in my phone like somebody could be watching me do you know how you fix that sticky note i'm high tech with that yeah thank you so much all right thank you i really appreciate it thank you for taking the time be well [Music] i know you got the jimmy john so you did it crazy fast i said it was crowded well i was going to ask you guys about the roe v wade situation going on what about you you have three minutes it's it's more important to get a female perspective get out here get out of here yeah i screwed me right what's your opinion on the the potential overturning of rovi with this isn't gonna be is this recording it could yeah it's recording but we're trying to get opinions from people that's all just what your opinion is on the overturning of ruby wood okay so you support the roe v wade as it was before oh yes yes you know that was created as a law by five white guys yes oh i know so i'm just saying they decided what women could do with their bodies yeah but so either way that's kind of how it's going right like sweating right now i really can't be on i feel like this might be like a violation of like me speaking they don't let you speak you're not allowed to speak your mind it's not white men who run that company is it they shouldn't be able to tell you what you do with your mouth go talk to them i want to go with you in the office no no i'll go to the office i'll talk to those white guys they can't tell you what you can't do with your body i gotta go though uh i got a meeting to get to okay all right let's go have your meeting can you just like not air this i don't know let's just make sure there are no white guys now well yeah i just are there white guys in that meeting you shouldn't be meeting with them you should be telling them to meet with you yeah fair enough okay good yeah it's like it's a black woman or intersectional who said don't don't let them be like hey you got to be here at 11 15. my point is do your own you know you do you hey what's his name gordo gordo mary gordo like mortal kombat yeah yeah yeah awesome is that why you were named gordo no it's named after a canadian singer and uh like gordon lightfoot uh gord downing fort downey yeah okay oh i'm canadian so are you canadian no i'm texting all right spoilers okay now they're appropriating canadian culture so uh gordo and mary thanks for taking the time you know they're just a great conversation with those folks so friendly um have you been following kind of the roe v wade yeah we're very very close okay uh what's your opinion on that um i think it's pretty up what's going on um i don't like i think everybody should have the right to choose well particularly women i think when it's something that's affecting your body you should have the right to choose how your um how you you should have the right to choose how you go about your own health uh and i think taking that away from people and not even just taking away but criminalizing it is a very backwards step for a country that prides itself on freedom criminalizing abortion yeah okay and uh what do you think right what's your opinion i think it's terrible it's awful same same reasoning yeah so um let me ask you this is is it your impression that roby wade overturning well let me ask you this first what do you think about the leak and the fact that this was leaked from the supreme court uh i think it's pretty crazy to have like a leak of that magnitude i think it's also very important that uh um that we have this knowledge so you can at least like talk about it before this all happens we have a very uh hard right weaning uh leaning a supreme court right now um which we've had of course this is america says we've had a whether democrat or republican uh in the very large gist of the political scale uh we're right leaning throughout our history um and but right now it's to an extent that we really haven't seen in a very very long time really since the civil war um so i think it's when you start taking away rights that have been affirmed over and over and over um on this magnitude i think it's important i'm sorry i'm giving you i thought but you sound you sound like you're pretty right-wing because you talked about freedoms and personal liberties that's uh no i think freedom and personal liberties right-wing or left-wing there's always uh bipartisan issues and no matter who you are you're communist you want your communists because you think freedom is of this way and i'm not a communist but uh and you're hard right-wing it's because you want freedoms in this way everybody has their own ideas of how to get there no communism is not about freedom it's pretty clearly expressive it's it's anti-freedom like there's no one who argues that communism is freedom there are there's communists that argue that um not marx or lenin marx does argue about the freedom that comes with communism it's about the leadership of the proletariat which is uh uh the individual which if you're into individualism i'd assume is it is it freedom if you're taking my rights away so well this is basically my own body sure this is something i say there's kind of two different questions you know the idea and if we want to talk about sort of abortion we can i i sort of want to discuss the the impression of the law so you mentioned like federally you know criminalizing abortion are you under the impression that that's what the overturning of roe v wade knows the overturning of roe v wade is giving states the right to uh criminalize abortion it's okay states to set their own rules but if you go deeper into it more specifically like in the second first trimester if you get into this uh there is a big discrepancy particularly in the us between uh income levels and if you particularly in a state like texas which is huge as you know yeah um if you don't make enough like it costs to get to another state to have an abortion just to travel out it's going to be like gas prices are incredibly high all this yeah um what do they get to another or are they over like four or four or something yeah it's not that bad that's pretty he just said it was bad uh it seems like you're couching it a little bit anyways anyway but yeah like california if you don't have the money which a lot of there are quite a lot of low-income people not just in texas but in the us in general to get out to access your right to an abortion which isn't even your right unless you're in another state um you can only do that if you have money so unless there's um i'm against criminalizing abortion completely but if you want to go like that and you still care about personal freedoms and rights there should be like very hardcore programs to allow the people that do want it to go to another state and how it's set up right now it's gonna it's leading the way to make it not just illegal to have an abortion within texas or whatever state that criminalizes it but to make it criminal to go to another state uh that to get an abortion and i think that's like pretty it's pretty totalitarian an authoritarian your impression that it makes it would make it criminal to go to another state to get an abortion no but that's what it's leading up to because these are precedents we're talking about this is how the supreme court i haven't heard anything i haven't heard that suggested that i just told you this is how precedents work in legal in legal uh scenarios you're setting a very large president like this which uh gives people the right to go further and further and further the whole roe v wade precedent is based on that it's not allowed this uh abortion wasn't mentioned in the constitution but also the right to marry uh interracially isn't in the constitution um the right to like uh all a lot of things that we take as very granted and that are important aren't mentioned in the constitution so i think uh this is like a very dangerous thing that's happening right now yeah i think there's and your question was now i understand where you're coming from i would disagree with first off do you mean precedent or precedence used both precedent okay precedent yeah um and you were out you asked me a question earlier i asked you a question yeah you asked me a question i wanted to get to the supreme court kind of roby wade law so i actually appreciate that you understand that it goes to the states and the states have that you know have that right because you actually understand what roe v wade over being overturned is a lot of people think that there's a federal criminalizing of abortion which isn't really the case no it's it's legal it's allowed it to the states yeah i don't really i haven't seen any uh literature that suggests already have a uh and it's also i think it's also very difficult to when it leads it to the states because the gerrymandering is so intense in places like texas and stuff which really skews the political outlook when uh the large majority of people in cities like this like dallas uh do vote uh blue and i'm not a democrat in fact i'm very heavily against the democratic party just about as equally as much as i'm against the republican party i think the us politics are across the board so how would you identify um i am progressive left-wing i believe uh in human rights which i mean i think we all deserve a right to we're the richest country in the world and it's 2022 we're very progressive uh we have the right to health care we have the right to bodily autonomy and to be an individual person to uh chase your self-actualization be the person you want to be as long as you're not harming anybody else i know this is where it comes down to because in abortion uh in this rhetoric it always comes down to whether you believe a fetus is a person or not and i believe because i don't remember and nobody remembers what they were as a fetus because you're not sentient i don't believe uh you're a person until you're born so you're a sentient being i don't remember anything before my second birthday yeah me neither which is what um well i'm also not advocating for aborting someone at a year old but of sentience right yeah right to your own body but you're not even you're not in the world why are you forcing women to carry out a pregnancy that they can't afford that you know that would lead up to a lot of high rates of infant mortality people can't take care of a child people can't go to the doctor it's it's a problem people the health care system is awful it you can't afford to have a child in this country it's expensive right i'm 21. i could never afford to have a child i can't i can afford my health insurance that is expensive but once a year twice a year and go to the doctor but that's about it that i can't afford to go to a hospital and have a child we can't even afford to go to the hospital i can't afford housing in this state in this country yeah i can't even afford i can't even afford to go to the doctor in general if i get actually sick sick like i'm people that make a hundred thousand dollars a year you get cancer you're bankrupt where do you work uh right now i just got back from europe uh doing a study abroad so this is my first day back so i don't have a journalist i study human rights actually okay cool what are human rights and international studies where were we studying barcelona at like a university yeah in iau is the university it's my final semester so i was just finishing i've already finished my degree i was just doing like my electives basically and traveling um yeah i studied human rights at smu actually okay so um and you said you can't afford a house who can afford a house like i'm 23 who can afford a house at 23 unless you're at mark or you said you can't afford a place to live uh so we're well i could i could afford a place to live if i was willing compared to five years ago it was very easy for me if for five years ago i could go bartend like which is what i normally do um and i can afford a decent place for like 800 700 a month in dallas it's very hard to find like to get a place that's not cockroach infested and like falling down i have to have like two or three roommates which is normal um but i mean i've been here my entire life and it's just getting uh i've seen the change firsthand hand we bought our house for eighty thousand dollars uh that neighborhood's about four hundred thousand dollars now because of these multi-corporations coming out like vanguard and blackrock yeah yeah yeah we'd probably agree you know elizabeth warren said they should be too big to fail i don't think any company is too big to fail they should fail um yeah i think yeah but i understand where you're going with this uh situation and i also believe that i well i believe that uh when a corporation gets uh pass a certain threshold of money they should be checked and limited by the government because um i believe it was thomas jefferson jefferson has a quote where he talks about if uh the power goes towards if the power goes is directed towards the banks i wish i could you can look it up later if you want you probably won't because i know you like to nitpick your things nothing against you no this would be totally unedited but you can uh i really appreciate everything you've been saying there's a thing about thomas jefferson that talks about um [Music] uh when the money is like goes you can look up thomas jefferson bank quote i believe and when basically when the banks if they're given too much money and by banks it's uh capital capital interest uh goes above the people it's no longer a democracy and it's true uh this is my shirt i certainly agree so we really pride ourselves on being a democracy but we're not i think we can find common ground there he's in the sense that i find common ground with a lot of right-wing people but yeah uh our ideals are against each other because they're certain can you let me speak i think we're saying the same thing on too big to fail i think that big banks want to privatize profits and socialize losses right and i think you're saying pick a lane so where we won't find common ground is more so socialize the banks i'm saying about socialized losses can you expand on that well they get bailed out by the taxpayers in other words when the bank has a problem it's they're insured by the federal government yeah yeah and so that's the taxpayer and that's people who really shouldn't even people who are middle class people or middle class even past them we agree on that i do agree on that but even past that what what the hell do we get as taxpayers even without that we're one of the richest nations in the world we don't have our free health care we don't have a public transport system that's adequate dallas we have a public transport system but come on it's wellington the us there's like compared to europe like europe you don't need a car uh really you can survive quite easily without one uh for most of the us if you don't have a car you are struggling you don't have a life you don't you don't have the ability to have a social life it's difficult to get to work um the us is quite big we don't invest at all in we don't invest in the social good really with any uh of our tax money our tax money is uh it goes to i don't really know that i i agree with that i mean you're doing many many trillions of dollars spent in the war on poverty and just we just talked about multiple joining dallas right now and you see the homeless people in every corner no i agree i just don't think that the federal spending on the war in poverty works just like the war on drugs hasn't worked oh yeah i don't think throwing more money at it so then what are you going for well i think the problem there right is we both agree there's corruption there's a lot of money that's being spent it's not being spent the right way i don't necessarily think that all those things are fundamental human rights but i certainly would argue that the money is being spent very poorly i mean there's a lot of money being spent we have a spending problem and it's not going anywhere useful but i wanted to get back to kind of roe v wade uh and the subject let me ask you this because there are people for example those we had four uh four people there you know african-americans who had it i don't know this is african-american i said four oh four they support ooh careful with your presumptions no i i misheard you it wasn't a presumption it found it the foreign four that you said before okay i didn't what were you asking is um you know they so that their point of view was okay they were pro-choice um and then she was a mother of four and when i asked her about the texas heartbeat bill she said well yeah of course after a heartbeat because she did an ultrasound she said that's a life that's a separate heart whose heart are you stopping my question to you is this because i know you're coming in hot and and i'm not appreciative i'm really speaking like uh i'm not coming in hard i'm not being here can you understand the other perspective where someone says someone does certainly have more than half the country believe it a limitation at some point that at a certain point it's no longer your own body that's their argument and that's why the supreme court is said it's bad law and states should have the right to enforce those regulations will the fetus survive if it's outside of your body so you don't have any children right no i don't because a baby won't survive outside the body no it's relying on your body right a baby won't survive outside of the body but i mean a baby delivered naturally won't survive i mean we're talking about fetus right now i'm talking about a fetus so what changes from let's say eight weeks and six days oh sorry eight months four you know three weeks six days to nine months is it just inside outside the womb that makes it a person well one's a fetus and one's a baby but why is one a fetus if it's it's not and it's just one day it's not relying on your body to your umbilical cord and once it's outside and cut so is that what defines person is the umbilical cord my opinion yeah so what if a woman gives birth and they haven't cut the cord yet does that mean they can abort the baby nobody but nobody's even talking about aborting like a baby that's still on the court it actually does exist it actually doesn't just there was a there was a bill but we have like so many billions of people it was a bill and i feel like i've been pretty respectful letting you talk a lot and go into different directions well you're interviewing me so of course i would talk a lot so yeah and i'm also being respectful i think interrupting is different from talking a lot would we agree and yeah interrupted hurry to leave it's okay um well i would like to hear her i'm having a conversation okay so um the umbilical is that what defines person i mean the point that other people are defining first and people define it differently i understand that for example these four african-americans said okay heartbeat they agree with the texas bill some people think that it's after the first trimester but at a certain where would you define when a person when it's a person why is it called the heartbeat bill because that's one you can detect a fetal heartbeat can you detect a fetal heartbeat at six weeks yes i'm not sure about that yeah you can okay so what is it you used to be able to but you can now with more advanced ultras and i just had twins so yeah i know what is what is your argument no my my question is can you understand in other words those people who were horrified right at the idea of aborting a baby after a heartbeat then there are a lot of americans who believe that okay once it has its own fingers toes sex you know there are people who believe like i i believe in the woman's choice i believe in the right to choose so when does that line i guess when is there the line of and this is why it's going to stay i mean i've talked to many people many people that are pro-choice about this i know i mean i believe the woman has the right to abort a child whenever they want so all the way up until nine months including birth yeah and you don't believe that that baby is a person at eight months seven even though they could be born in bible because you said viability earlier they are viable it's viable in 21 weeks if it's a person i mean if it's still in your body you have the choice to do what you want so it's a location what determines a person in your body or outside of your body well once once it's delivered you carry okay first of all nobody really wants to abort a child at eight months it happens all the time for many reasons if they i've had a couple friends with abortions there's never any one there's always that like when they find out yes a year my problem also with this abortion bill is that it's making it so they want to abort the child when it when it's it does happen and there are states that restrict it but there are some states that don't my question is would you restrict it then if you're saying no okay so someone should be able to abort it eight months nine months um if that's what they choose okay why why because it's their body so it's their choice so it's a person who is able to have a child so it's their choice so if a woman is eight months pregnant using your premise since we've gone to this does that woman have 20 fingers does she have 20 toes does she have a penis if it's a boy what is it does she have two brains what does that matter well because you're ending the life the functioning life of another human being that has all of those things so i'm saying you're saying that's her body so that woman has 20 toes what does that matter it's not her body she doesn't have 20 fingers in total oh you're saying uh 10 fingers plus her 10 fingers that's 20 fingers so is it still the one child whether you would call it a child or a fetus i know this is what it comes down to is it a child or a fetus in my opinion when it's in your body the medical idea of what you call it a fetus is a fetus um if you aborted me when i was a fetus i'm not gonna playing cause i don't know uh like cleansing or anything like that i'm talking about you brought up sentience and i'm just saying that's an important distinction to make because why is it not because you said child or her body there's a big difference is it a child i'm just using i'm trying to understand where you're coming here i don't think you're actually trying to understand where i'm coming from well i ask you could you understand where they're coming from because i was four people can you understand where they say well it's a separate heartbeat so i understand some kind of research but i also think maybe they just aren't fully knowledgeable on the entirety of the texas bill that was passed for six weeks before black people yeah maybe i don't know i don't know them i didn't talk to but there are a lot of americans who think there should be a limitation you understand that your view is considered you know there's extreme left extreme right is no no abortions even in the case of rape and incest yours is abortion up until nine months that's considered a pretty radical view and so i'm curious to understand where you draw and it seems to me like you're well statistically it's a raffle you most americans don't agree with that doesn't mean that it's right or wrong i'm just saying it would be considered very far left what makes it acceptable and this is a question that i'm really i am trying to understand what makes it acceptable when it's a baby that is totally viable because that's what you brought up first is completely viable outside of the womb there's no debate at this point right it's still connected to her body so it's the umbilical cord can i bring something up the fetus is still relying on the nutrients of her body to survive right so it's her choice to in that pregnancy so it is exclusively that a baby is relying on the nutrients of the mother because we both know the baby is relying entirely on the mother's capabilities well once for a year once the baby is born and once it's um not connected to that person then the baby's relying on the mother's nutrients at that point right mother's no it's not necessarily not because of modern technology but for a long time they had to be breastfed they're still reliant upon the mother's nutrients can i bring something up real quick well not the mother that you don't necessarily have to be the mother that birthed the child to keep the child alive right but it's reliant upon the nutrients of another woman you said it's on reliance what's difference between the the now child breastfeeding versus the child who is relying on the nutrients inside the body yeah um well it's the the hu the person that uh had the child inside their body is where am i going uh we're uh we've been drinking but can i bring something up um [Music] you brought up the war on drugs earlier and how it was ineffective because we poured all this money into it and we uh really heavily criminalized like drugs and to like an extreme extent and it never works actually made the problem worse uh if you read any white papers like any research paper on abortion and like limiting abortions um no matter what your ideal of like how conception or when it becomes a baby abortions like throughout anywhere that abortion's been criminalized they still happen but when you criminalize them then you have the problems that we're facing right now uh in the drug world it's fentanyl and i've lost three friends in two years from fentanyl but in abortions it's going to be illegal abortions because people are still going to be desperate and still going to have them and people are still going to die and be like armed now i'm old i won't be illegal i now right now i'm 21 i can't afford to have a child but i if i were pregnant i couldn't afford to have a child i would get an abortion a safe legal abortion it would allow me to have a child in the future because it's i didn't have to harm my own body to abort this child right so if a safe easy abortion legal would ensure that i was able to have a child in the future so why i don't i don't understand the the question are you asking me a question no i'm just making a point okay because i was still waiting i was just waiting for the answer in the question regarding the breastfeeding umbilical cord and i understand you were talking about fentanyl if you don't have abortions if you're taking away safe legal abortions then i if someone has no choice and can't afford a child and i have a lot of i would let's be honest about this it's just i think i have a lot of choices you didn't let me finish so if if it was not legal to have an abortion and a person is still able to go out and have what we call back alley abortion could ruin their body for the rest of their life they weren't it they want a they're not going to be able to have a child in the future because it up their uterus they you know it's so a safe legal abortion would ensure that that child or that person could have a child in the future not necessarily why the the the correlation equaling causation that a safe legal abortion and there's of course the arguments we've made that it's never safe for the baby involved but there are other choices that wouldn't ensure anything because what does ensure it is contraception abstinence motherhood adoption abstinence doesn't work everybody knows that i think okay i gave you three other options can i tell you adoption i don't know about you but there's never been a single baby from people who haven't been having sex yeah but we're all human and everybody has sex and you try to teach kids about absence like they taught us in texas and it doesn't work and a lot of people get pregnant when they're young because they don't know anything about contraception they get pregnant if they they're not practicing abstinence yes i agree with you but who practices abstinence are you going to be a monk do you practice abstinence i've written about it extensively yeah probably practice it before i was married yeah a lot of people do [Music] if you tell them to never have sex well of course and a lot of people say absolutely the person or the child in high school how to have safe sex that's that's the whole point of that i'm not advocating i think i was pretty clear because i brought up i brought up the other choices i don't really give a yeah i don't know what your your point is well you said can we wrap up the choice of safe legal and rare abortion we're just spiraling out of control we said the choice of safe legal and rare abortion would ensure abstinence contraception motherhood adoption abortion's not required to ensure it you understand because you use the word required i'm sure you're aware that there are states that are making contraceptives illegal no i'm not you're not aware of that there's no multiple times there's no states right now that make conscious definitely yeah but you know they're trying to right okay so now we've changed the goalposts no no that's my that's literally what i said mississippi right now is uh talked about how they're making contraceptives illegal is not off the board which is a pretty intense thing to say the state legislature mississippi has not said that what about louisiana like can we bring it back and wrap it up on whatever no i thought we just didn't bring it back you brought it back to the war on drugs that you were studying human rights abroad and can't afford a house and that's a human right and internet and i think we've gone to a lot of different directions where i wanted to have a conversation about uh about roe v wade yeah and i appreciate you going these different directions you can smoke if you want it's okay i think i appreciate it though thanks for offering um but uh i think i understand where you guys line up on rovi and i think that there's a divide in this country and you know states are going to be able to establish their own laws my point is is i i mean you're not able to carry a child because i'm assuming that you are a man without a uterus why and oh okay because there's stephen growling here because you're stephen crowder and i know you have a penis oh well i don't never mind it doesn't really you can show us real quick you want to prove it no that's actually that's a felony we're okay with it we're consenting sometimes the other people here are concerned if you can say that's the last thing i want to see oh it's pretty big you never got to see the doctor so maybe uh yeah maybe it's because he lays it on the microwave so maybe because i'm a man i'll go with it because i'm a man i shouldn't have an opinion on abortion right do you have an opinion on murder theft arson come on it's a silly argument you're going to have an adventure we're all inside of your opinion thank you man i appreciate it i appreciate you guys have a good day well there you have it we managed to speak to the view of the majority of americans on okay abortion with some limitations the radical 30 percent who don't believe in uh any at all and um this guy asked us for five dollars and then he went and bought weed so i guess subscribe what does weed go for all right i'm going to level with you if you liked this video you have to hit the share button um otherwise your entire family will die i don't write the rules i just call them and this is clipped from the live show every monday through thursday at 10 a.m eastern that's the best thing you can do to watch live i mean you know you didn't you you ran a fall your family's dead my family is dead but my mother left me with this shirt before she went home to meet the lord oh well i guess we all come out winners

Channel: StevenCrowder

Views: 3,509,916

Keywords: steven crowder, crowder, stephen crowder, louder with crowder, LwC, mug club, Change My Mind, Crowder Confronts, comedy, politics, news, liberal, libertarian, funny conservative, current events, fake news, Dave Landau, abortion, roe v wade, scotus leak, scotus, talking with people, just talking, man on the street, protest, baby, pro choice, pro life, supreme court leak, supreme court, roe vs wade, abortion rights, fox news, roevwade, supreme court abortion, abortion ban

Id: Yl9Vrbe6l2Y

Length: 71min 51sec (4311 seconds)

Published: Wed May 11 2022

Reddit Comments

[u/beachboy1b]

I’m listening to the part featuring the woman that appears in the thumbnail here, and she is fucking nuts. I pray to God she doesn’t have kids. End that fucking bloodline lmao.

Edit: her boyfriend literally just dropped the “we’ve been drinking” excuse because she couldn’t think of a logical response to one of Steven’s last points. What a fucking disgrace some people are.

[u/RodgerCheetoh]

Dude is just having a straight up unedited, normal conversation with cited facts on the street and TPUSA is shitting on him lmao

[u/SgtFraggleRock]

No, because Democrats and the media (redundant, I know) deliberately keep people ignorant.

[u/sirjaimes]

I completely misjudged long-nails-high-waisted-jorts girl.

She actually knew the decision reverts to the states.

[u/spoiLs7]

Thought he did a great job... conceded to his personal opinion to get people to understand the other side a bit more. Most of them were understanding when the figured out the truth. The RBF chick at the end couldn't put two thoughts together. Her boyfriend had some decent thoughts, but not on RvW imo.

[u/Bacon1884]

Crowder takes a LOT crap but at least he tries to provide an insight to just how much people are manipulated without actually researching topics. Im left leaning centrist with 30% conservative views (freedoms, fiscal etc) and I appreciate his work. America is becoming a tit-for-tat child’s playground where when the Left violates an American right/liberty (Ex: punishing people for freedom of speech/expression) the Right is now responding back. This is going to get so far out of control that It won’t be reconcilable.

[u/Beercorn1]

Gordo? Like Mortal Kombat?

Seriously? When he said his name was "Gordo", my first thought was Eddy Gordo from Tekken. There isn't even a character named "Gordo" in Mortal Kombat.

[u/_windermere_]

I’m proud to say I don’t know what it is and nor do I give a shit because I wore condoms with random pieces of strange and my wife is not a whore.

[u/Sensitive_Tough1478]

Short answer: No.

Long answer: No.