Did the Gods Steal Their Power? [Genshin Impact Lore and Theory]

the history of celestia is a puzzle continuously revealed throughout the tale of tibat and the more we peer through the lens of their more questionable history celestia's past is ridden with conquest and today i want to propose the statement that the gods are seeping the power of the original inhabitants of tivat effectively stealing the power of the world that isn't theirs now as my usual disclaimer these are all just speculations and theories and are not indicative of the final product additionally the word steel was considered for the context of celestia's past which i'll get to further along the video also i won't be going over the intricacies of celestia's hierarchy or whatnot but i have gone through those in another video so you can click the links down below to see what i'm talking about but nevertheless let's begin before we begin about the theory of celestia harnessing the power of the old world we need to establish what the old world even is the furthest we know from celestia is the book of the sun and moon released alongside in kanemia this was a book that closely details the history of celestia before the arkhan war and connects to even more tales in genji and impact such as the three moon sisters and the strange hesitants of the archons to speak about the island in the sky according to the pyro abyss sector known as enzo this book was among the reasons oribashi was silenced but the validity of that statement is unclear it's unknown how much learning about celestia's past can get you in trouble but at the very least we know the contents of the book these chronicles are known to the people here as the times before sun and moon back then no gods walk the earth and the whole land belong to a single civilization yes that's precisely it that's why i wanted to find this book that way we the abyss order would have proof proof that the gods and celestia came from beyond this world the planet where tivot stands on was currently under the dominion of dragon lords known as the seven sovereigns these are elemental dragons and creatures of what is known as the light realm or better known as the elemental realm the light realm is where creatures that harness the pure raw primordial elements and most likely where most creatures we see in the game that aren't humanoid come from the inhabitants of this realm are the bishops but celestia was originally not from this world the eternal throne of the heavens came and the world was made anew the true lord the primordial one named fanus came forth and did battle against the seven terrifying sovereigns after this fierce battle the primordial one created shades of itself the number of these shades was four the only confirmed shade we know of is the god of time is the roth but with these shades the world's rivers and mountains were made the seas oceans grasses and trees and finally humanity so let's dissect such a creation the concept of genshin's archons and visions is tied closely with the real-life theological concept of gnosticism from the usage of terms like old world or gnosis or ascension the resemblance is almost uncanny the new bible dictionary outlines the gnostic beliefs as the following matter was the creation of an inferior being the demiurge he along with his aides the archons kept mankind imprisoned within their material existence and barred the path of individual souls trying to ascend to the spirit world after death not even this possibility was open to everyone ever for only those who possessed a divine spark could hope to escape from their corporeal existence and even those possessing such a spark did not have an automatic escape for they needed to reach the enlightenment of gnosis before they could become aware of their own spiritual condition the fact that celestia came to this world and effectively destroyed the previous inhabitants is already a question of black on their end their motivations are unknown but at the same time we know that the old world was effectively burnt away its previous rulers gone and its inhabitants repurposed but i have three core assumptions about celestia essentially taking pre-existing resources and repurposing it for their own uses so let's break them down one by one the demon gods of celestia harness their powers from the elemental realm and are not originally creatures capable of manipulating elemental power the archons are instead born from this mass-produced energy as life forms by extension the demon gods are not part of the gods that first invaded tavat but are instead born from this world the hierarchy of the gods is currently unknown but we can establish something based off on what we know first is the primordial one then the shades and then the demon gods of celestia who fought to become archons the archons are just ascended demon gods that won the war but now comes the question where did the demon gods come from gods like barbados morax and the like well it's possible that the gods are as much creations of celestia as humans are first is that fanus was the first one that arrived to this world and created other creatures like istheroth as far as we know venice was alone given the source material saying they split themselves apart after the battle with the seven sovereigns and after that it's possible that the gods were created by the shades alongside their creation of humanity according to venti's lore venti before taking the form of the nameless bard was but a thread of the thousand winds the title thousand winds is also a moniker used by the god of time is the roth according to the byakuya koku collection we also know that celestial magic is different from elemental magic and that the elemental powers of the archons are inherent to themselves there are also elemental creatures here outside of celestial territory and a whole realm of primordial elemental energy it's actually even possible that the light from is the purest form of the elements which is reflected in the description of the name card of the achievement colors of the rainbow light can refract into countless colors but people stop at seven because they're too lazy to count perhaps the elements are like that too this might be why the light realm and the elemental realm are one in the scene but that also begs the question that the light realm has pre-existed the archons and even the shades which make the correlation a lot more questionable it's possible that the archons just weaved from the energy of the elemental realm and became somewhat carbon copies of the elemental creatures we see and that it's not the hypostasis or the specters that are similar to venti for example but that it's venti similar to them because animals fundamentals have already been long established before venti's creation john lee and venti are known elemental spirits and the three archons have displayed great power before and after their time with the gnosis it's a common misconception that without the gnosis the archons are weak when the extent of their power with and without the gnosis is currently unknown to us venti johnly and a have been able to use both their archon-like abilities and their elemental abilities without hindrance so the idea that the gnosis impacts their power significantly is still questionable as you know visions are external magical foci that only a small minority of people possess they use these visions to channel elemental power instead each archon has an internal magical focus that resonates directly with celestia itself known as a gnosis what i like at this dialogue is that venti specifically uses the word foci usually in fantasy a foci is a medium that allows for an external energy to be converted into something the wielder uses think of it like a staff or a want but the external energy remains to be the key source in this case elemental energy it's channeling not creating which further hints that the archons aren't the apex of elemental magic and are just as primitive as the vision wielders i just found that interesting the next theory following through this though is about the purpose of creating the devil gods and establishing a new order in the world almost similar to the seven sovereigns it's possible that the archons are fanness in the shade's way of recreating the seven sovereigns recreating a civilization based around the seven elements just like the old world but instead being able to control these seven entities through the gnosis seven powerful elemental entities corresponding to a particular foci connected to celestia and the ability of their respective elements i find it particularly strange that there even is such a thing as the archon war consider this human civilization in savate has already existed before the arkhan war and was already thriving at the very least the prayers artifacts had mentioned that humanity used to have a very close relationship with the gods until the end of each civilization came for them but regardless humanity was still very much in tune with the gods so what i'm curious about is what motivated the arkhan war to begin with what motivated celestia to put their gods against each other for dominion over the seven nations what i'm theorizing here is that the purpose of the archons isn't inherently to adjudicate their nation but to somehow harness the power of their people passively and become something akin to the seven sovereigns maybe the archon war was a test of which of celestia's creations are worthy to be considered the right-hand men of the gods and finally continue with their plan it's also particularly strange that venti says one of the reasons a god's powers grow is because of their rulership over the nation which is why he deems himself as the weakest which honestly sounds really parasitic i want to give venti the benefit of the doubt and say that he's just talking about political power but at the same time there's no reason for him to talk about that in the context of the scene whatever celestia's plans were with the nations or more specifically with the people is quite disturbing to think about because now we dive into the concept of the visions i theorize that when a vision wielder ascends their power is effectively assimilated into celestia as a spiritual entity their innate ability to wield the vision whether it was ambition or maybe just the spark of divinity inside of them is innately removed and they are repurposed into stars the reason i opened the topic of gnosticism is because of the idea that the ambition of the people is what fuels the vision's power the concept of narcissism hints that the divine spark within a person is innate to themselves but they require the gnosis to truly unlock that divine spark's fullest potential therefore the aspect of ascension being a way to compile and harness the power of allergens becomes often more plausible johnny a's voice lines about the visions both hint that there is something more ominous about them and that while they allow for elemental manipulation there is a corresponding price what that prize is is unknown though divine entities sapping energies from visions isn't exactly unheard of the traveler being a great example of this but let's go a little further these visions are the primitive versions of the gnosis and according to venti allergens another term for vision builders can ascend to celestia and attain godhood but we've never seen this happen yet even more so is that a says that the key is people's desire which is parallel with how the in innozuma argon quest caused the vision as materialized versions of one's ambition so going back to the concept of narcissism and mixing it with what we know from genshin the visions are already innate to a person once they unlock a deep desire and ambition but just because you have ambition doesn't mean that you have the divine spark needed this is why we have npcs that have very astute goals but they don't get a vision it's possible that what celestia is looking for is the divine spark and to fully harness that divine spark you must ascend to celestia and attain the treasure of the gods but just like the texts say the gods go deal with their seven treasures and the promise of divinity what's even scarier is that when aether asks venti if entering celestia makes you a god venti talks about sacrifice how three gods sacrificed a part of themselves for the creation of the worlds benti's gaze is downcast as we see vanessa entering pangu gave his blood to form the seas gods cut perugia's body to create all living things and the brains of emir became the clouds according to venti their sacrifices ceded life into the cosmos the idea of celestia stealing the power of the dead is a really disturbing thought to me and something that i've been entertaining for quite a while now it's morbid but in a way that is uncertain but regardless that's it for me today what are your thoughts on celestia's past and 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Length: 13min 48sec (828 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 27 2022