Dick Tracy - Caravan of Garbage

welcome back everybody to caravana garbage where we're going to do something a little bit unique but not really that unique because it's very much in the purview of this Channel and series Mason and also other people have done videos on it maybe maybe better who knows that's not for us to say but yes absolutely yes so what we're going to be looking at is a series of movies which are based on older comic strips they're kind of Pulp we were trying to kind of pinpoint what it is about this particular set of movies like under what umbrella they fit under their their characters they're all sort of debuted around the 30s except for one of them which is modern but had they have the sheen of being an old school character some of them are comic strip characters some of them like radio play characters yeah but we came to the conclusion well you thought of this that you just know it when you see it and you're not interested in watching it primarily you're like I don't know it's kind of like a thing that I like yeah it's kind of like Spider-Man but not as good as Spider-Man yeah exactly but anyway we're gonna watch him so you don't have to that's right that's our catchphrase that is that's ours yep so we're kicking things off as if from a Thompson gun that would be more of a rat attack oh yes absolutely yeah so we're going with Dick Tracy from 1990 and I guess if there was one positive thing I could say about this movie yes but I love a big weird swing absolutely that's true and this is one of the biggest weirdest suits oh my God you could have that's absolutely and the thing about it as well is oh yeah leave a like oh yeah the best part about taking a big swing at this particular character is nobody remembers who he is yeah for good reasons we'll talk about it later but also what I think has happened here and I think it's the same thing that happens sort of in the modern era is that somebody who loved a character or a series or a movie back in the day or a toy or something like that it has come to adulthood and has gotten into the movie industry and is like you know what I think kids would like that thing that I like when I was a kid yeah like a Barbie or a Transformers or a GI Joe and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't Snake Eyes you know what I mean such is the Snake Eyes is going to be in these videos as well absolutely you know it when you see it but that's the case I believe for Warren Beatty yeah Academy award-winning Big Time celebrity because why would he do this well yeah so apparently he learn to raid yeah through Dick Tracy Comics I hope also some formal education but according to him reading Dick Tracy comic strips in the newspaper and you know why not kids looking for a bit of excitement and he's a square jawed two-fisted detective and that's basically it I love when a star or a director they get to the point where they go to the studio and they go I'm gonna make this thing and it's not gonna make any money and the studio has to go all right yeah well he before this he did he did two things speaking of swings he did a movie called Reds which is about the first Russian Revolution and he won an Academy Award for that and then he was in the movie Ishtar which everyone hates yep on the balance of Hollywood juice he had enough to be like I'm gonna make I'm gonna make this here was Bonnie or Clyde yes that's right he was it was one of the biggest stars of his era yeah if you weren't alive in that era and we weren't it's kind of hard to comprehend but you know he was who's the equivalent he's a v it was the Vinnie Chase of his era absolutely that's right yes I mean look the the very short history of this character on the big screen he'd had some you know black and white uh cereals back in the day and uh radio plays probably almost certainly that yeah we cannot confirm or deny but most famously a long-running comic strip absolutely no never really made the jump to comic book occasionally you know yeah but often a collected you know a sort of a collection of a compendium a compendium oh great word thank you terrific word uh but anyway so there was a lot of interest throughout the 70s making a big dick Tracy feature film for some reason and a lot of the Time Warren Beatty was sort of on a lock to star in that so various movie studios uh bought the rights from uh Tribune publisher of the comic strips and attempted to make various Dick Tracy movies and they all fell through for various reasons at one point I think Chester Gould who created Dick Tracy was like I demand full creative control in this and they're like absolutely not we're counting this one I think at one point Walter Hill who directed 48 hours and red heat yeah he wanted to direct uh this with Warren Beatty to Star but I think Walter Hill wanted like a grim and gritty kind of like a modern yes take on that like a 48 hours and Warren Beatty was not about that for him no that's right he was he wanted he wanted a silly cartoony version yeah it's silly a sincere cartoony version yeah but and anyway a bunch of them fell through including that version Martin Scorsese also was on board like he was a officially on board at one point which would have been a very different project absolutely yeah but then uh crucially all the rights lapsed they went back to Tribune and then Warren Beatty bought them himself he paid 3 million US Dollars like of his personal he's out of his he cracked open the piggy bank with which they all had back then and he paid three million dollars which he might be like he overpaid but he got a lot for his money we'll talk about it later absolutely so and then he was like he's going to direct it produce it and star in it and in 1990 it came out I think of this movie visually it's very interesting one of the things that he's done is that he's only really used the six original colors that were used for printing in the comic strip ah so you know there's like there's your Reds and purples and yellows and whatever and there's no real shades of anything else going on there I guess you could compare it to like it's like a slightly more colorful version of Sin City yeah without that thought yeah the murdering and all that well there is the murdering there was so much murdering for a PG-13 I assume so this movie came in in 1990 Sin City started in 1991. oh okay and I I believe Frank Miller creator of Sin City has said his his influences were like you know old school gangster movies and stuff like that he just saw dictators just saw all the Freaks and Dick Tracy and he's like no I'll have a bit of that oh how do you feel about that all the freaks I love him God damn big head tiny face wrinkles mumbles sure no just everybody's a horrible ghoul flat guy flat guy yeah nice a lot of them unrecognized he's not really a freak Show but you know yeah comb over is that the comb over guy yeah that's Mandy you've been thinking yeah wonderful love him yeah so yeah visually interesting but I think aside from that it's kind of hard to care about the main character because I don't care why he's doing it and what he's doing he's doing it James because he has a sense of justice and that's it well apparently in the comics the main gangster in this played by Albert Pacino killed his first library's parents or something I can't remember what we both yeah yeah yeah that's not mentioned here at all he's just a cop trying to do the right thing and frankly like I don't really care whether you win or not but that's of no consequence is it because he's constantly like taking away their right to a phone call and stuff like that well he's not reading him there Miranda right he's a bit rude he's got a big he's got a big hot light on Dustin Hoffman at one point yeah all of that yeah I think there's some things that does work in this relationship wise you know there's this kind of a love triangle between him and his best girl and Madonna Madonna's in this by the way sure so this was also the inspiration for Vogue as well uh she wrote a number of songs for this she released the album I'm breathless which is uh songs from and inspired by the movie oh Dick Tracy which includes the song Vogue it's not in it but it's right right okay in the movie but it's it's on the sound it's on the soundtrack yeah okay that makes sense I think the kid's good he's also from hook he's a fun little ragamuffin running about he wants to be a mini Dick Tracy but yeah I think you've nailed it it's that there's there's nothing to this guy you know yeah he just I mean and that's the point obviously yeah that just I don't know you're supposed to insert yourself in that are you well I guess but also I think because the you know it comes from a serialized comic strip you just open your newspaper every day and there's three panels or whatever yeah and you're just in the middle of it and he's just chasing up the latest freak of a bad guy yeah you know there's no time for him to dwell on like the horrors of his past and why he chose to become a police detective and Etc it's just like well I do what I do you need five panels for that and they normally only had three yeah another thing that I think is super interesting about this is that Warren Beatty because of his Hollywood juice he convinced Stephen Sondheim to write five original songs now he's known for like West Side Story and Sweeney Todd and into the woods that's probably a whole other video that somebody yeah Patrick Williams did a video on this it will talk about it more it's a great video but yeah no you're absolutely right like that and like as you mentioned like all the the stars that are involved Al Pacino isn't Godfather 3 the same year wow two great movies yeah yeah yeah yeah uh bloody Dick Van Dyke is in this oh yeah district attorney bloody James Khan is in this oh yeah James guys he's just a whirlwind of stars and freaks yeah absolutely and you'd probably recognize this but Danny Elfman was hired to compose the score because of his work on Batman the previous year but on working with Beatty Elfman said Warren was insane ah let's talk about the insanity of Warren Beatty though because there's a lot of things said about him over the decades I've got some say he's so vain that he would think that song was about him and maybe it was or something I can't remember but there's been a claim made in a book about him in 2010 that he'd slept with 12 775 women you've bedded 13 000 women oh he's oh he's just leaving that one now we did the math on this right before the show we tried we're not good no we're not good at it so we worked out through the power of Google that he lost his virginity at the age of 19 and is now currently a time of recording 85 years old but he would have stopped having sex decades ago all that and he married Annette Benning in 1992. right around there shortly after the release of Dick Tracy correct so that is roughly a 35-year window for him to have sex with 12 775 women which works out to be 365 a year which is obviously one a day now that sounds impossible yeah and unlikely Warren Beatty himself has said of this that would mean not just that there were multiple people a day but there was no repetition he also didn't deny sleeping around during his Heyday look I never misled anybody and I'm a nice guy there you go official quote that is so true here's some other things about Warren Beatty okay Gene Hackman turned down the role of lips manless because he couldn't bear being directed by Warren Beatty again after his experience on reds Sean Young was originally cast as test Trueheart that would work yeah but she was nearly Catwoman as well and a bunch of other things but was fired after a few days of filming by Warren Beatty afterwards young publicly accused Beatty of firing her because she wouldn't sleep with him but Deborah Ruff Charlie Horse Moe's mum who is the kid later disputed this saying the rumor was that she had become too demanding they just decided not to put up with that Beatty also issued a statement saying I made a mistake casting her in the part and I felt very badly about it wow he was also dating Madonna at the time Madonna and Warren Beatty they met around the filming of this apparently he probably obsessed probably yeah not before they might have met the day before apparently he proposed to her and she stalled on the question of marriage so he ended their romance and claimed what he'd given her was actually a friendship rig well but also that's what happens in the movie it is yeah nobody can commit to getting married in this movie yeah but he's doing it yeah so there's a lot of that going on behind the scenes you know look some people will bring facts or thematic observations or math but we will bring just unsubstantiated rumors and half remembered quotes and I think that's important definitely yeah so there's this character called no face in it by the way or something the blank blank face no face man man with no face um who's killing all the mobsters and seemingly manipulating uh Dick Tracy and gets him in jail but he gets out whatever and then at the end it's like who is this it's Madonna was Madonna's character uh spoiler alert obviously that's the ending and that's not before there's a scene where Warren Beatty just tears into a street and machine guns probably 50 people oh my God and just the the combat tactics in that man's mind which is just stand in the middle of the street with the Tommy Gun and just slowly turn around does he reload it's a comic strip yeah it doesn't really matter does it but yeah I just feel like everything around this movie and this is obviously reflected in this video is way more interesting than the movie itself I think so too I mean there's some standout little bits there's a moment where uh there's a food Montage there is a food Montage there's a moment where um where Dick Tracy has to uh rescue a character from being given like the the cement straight jacket yeah method of death and he does that by replacing the guy with himself in the cement in the cement mixer and so he just emerges covered in cement you can just sit around the corner mate yeah yeah pretty good as a fan of the comic strip Warren Beatty apparently wanted to use pretty much every character that he possibly could in this okay in case he never got a chance to make a sequel but then he just knocked most of them off yes but in case he never made a sequel what if he did he'd have to bring him back from the dead or use flat top Junior well let's talk about sequels okay or more specifically the future of this franchise because this was supposed to be like you're the Batmans or well whatever well that's true a lot of people have said of this movie oh it's just a and I think you know because of the timelines get muddled yeah you know the further we go into the future a lot of people have said oh you know this was just to capitalize on on the success of Tim Burton's Batman they were pretty much yeah they were too close I think they were in production you know you mentioned Danny Elfman earlier yeah there's definitely overlap yeah but I think they were too close in production I think what did happen though certainly is they saw the massive success of Batman yeah executive saw it in the previous year and when this will do huge numbers because we don't understand the difference because they can't tell we're in the future and we can tell we know already at time of recording it's been more than three decades since Dick Tracy 1990 and I don't know if you've noticed this James but there's been kind of a boom in like comic book comic character to movie adaptation since yeah you notice that have you felt that yeah I spelled that in your Waters I saw blade Trinity oh yeah yeah it's the one that's pretty good that's right even your fellow comic strip stole what's like Flash Gordon and the Phantom yeah got TV series reboots on the Sci-Fi channel yeah you know so it's weird that well the Batman has had literally one million sequels since then why no Dick Tracy thing you know you'd think anybody with any Financial sense yeah would see where which way the wind was blowing you know in the last decade or so and just gone let's let's knock it out here Tribune owners of the Dick Tracy Comic Strip surely would be jumping on the bandwagon if there's money to be made and just to jump ahead we normally do this close to the end but the budget of this was 46 million dollars it did blow out and the Box Office return was 162.7 Million so it was a hit like a moderate hit yeah yeah again it didn't do as well as Batman but it did enough yeah to Warrant a sequel to Warren a sequel oh good night everyone no we oh yeah you've got things to say I can see your notes that's true just read them just yeah all right just read them quickly okay we'll get it we'll get Siri to read them yeah so you would think that the Tribune upon getting there the rights back after this movie was made you would think they'd just make another Dick Tracy movie or something some TV series anything yeah you know a Saturday morning kids cartoon but they didn't um because they made a bad deal remember that three million dollars that Warren Beatty paid for the rights turned out he got a tremendous deal he got what seems to have been a perpetuity deal which is not that uncommon no so the reason you see for example Fox making so many Fantastic Four or X-Men movies despite the fact that they got increasingly worse yeah is because they had a deal with Marvel the the comic publisher that if they kept making these movies they would retain the rights so they'd keep doing that until they'd squeezed the absolute last dollar from the public possible and they did and they absolutely did and then Marvel had to buy 20th Century Fox yeah to get the rights back to those characters but clearly the contract Warren Beatty signed with Tribune didn't even specify what he needed to make they made the deal with him in perpetuity but they didn't tell him okay and by the way Warren if you want to keep making Dick Tracy stuff you have to make a full feature film that gets released in cinemas and it has to be 90 minutes plus and you have to be in it and whatever exactly they just in the contract they didn't predict YouTube or Turner Classic Movies but we did we did we know that now though yeah we're in the future we're in the future clearly they just said you have to make something Dick Tracy related and maybe you have to be in it yeah because what he's done and you can track these down on YouTube and I highly recommend you do because they're weird and bad they're weird and they're incredible I honestly one came out this year and it's maybe my favorite piece of media that's come out so what seems to be happening is Tribune contact Warren Beatty and they say hey Warren would like the rights back we'd like to make something yeah with this and then he has a certain amount of time to make a Dick Tracy thing and so far what he's chosen to do is is release two things two pieces of content yeah content is the right word both of which have been shown once and only once on the channel Turner Classic Movies one in 2008 the Dick Tracy TV special in which Warren Beatty in character as Dick Tracy is being interviewed by Leonard Moulton TV critic Leonard Moulton about being Dick Tracy and the state of the world in general he clearly kept the curtain hat yeah and then in 2023 uh he released again one of my favorite things Tracy Zooms in yeah in which it's way weirder than the previous one which Leonard Moulton again and Ben mankowitz uh Turner Classic Movies host get on a zoom call with Warren Beatty in character as Dick Tracy and then just Warren Beatty as himself oh it's also a retrospective of the previous special yeah yep maybe there's a sequel rule he has to it has to be a sequel to the previous thing I don't know it kind of plays like a zoom meeting but it's not edited cleanly there's weird pauses there's weird stuttering often Warren Beatty will just be or Dick Tracy they're both there they're both there and they have a they haven't spoken in years because of some sort of feud between them that was a result of a misunderstanding they they missed having lunch at the polo lounge or something there's no way we can do this Justice immediately quit watching this video go to the YouTube search barabarbus and type in Tracy Zooms in it'll be there if it's not tweet at us and I'll find it for you and I'll give it this God it's great yeah and then at the end they go to lunch together so it's Dick Tracy and Warren Beatty sitting across from each other in a very obvious split screen and they're supposed to be having a conversation but they're just both talking at the same time it's great yeah really bizarre oh my God then look again there'd be so many options these stuff like if you know a man So Vain he probably thought the song was about him he probably thought that he keeps claiming that he's gonna make a sequel to this he's going to produce something but he's just made these weird specials and I think at this point there's so many options you could do grim and gritty you could do a modern reboot you could do young and sexy oh yeah you could do it straight laced you could do a comedy you could do a prequel where Tracy's just a guy in a regular suit and tie and at the end the police chief's like you did good kid pick a trench coat and hat from a wardrobe of weird color options and he goes I think I'll choose a weird shade of yellow credits Tracy yeah because the movie would be called Tracy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah here's my take on this yeah and I don't claim to know the man you know really is that something that you've previously claimed I don't have time he's too busy sleeping with women you can't get a hold of him on the phone but I feel like maybe if he made another one and it was bad people would go why'd he hang onto this license for so long it's about it's worse than the last one but if he hands if he lets the rights lapse somebody else takes it and makes a movie and it's really good then he's gonna look like a guy who hang again who hung onto this this license for way too long like why didn't you let somebody else have it kind of thing but if he just makes the one and he always claims that he's gonna make a new thing you know then nobody else gets a chance to show him up and then he and then he dies and he doesn't know what happens after that's true brilliant yeah anyways it's time for dick trivia nice trivia segment make up Google no no don't do it makeup designer John caglione Jr's final design for Big Boy Caprice matches the intended design conceived by Al Pacino and since then he's become Pacino's personal makeup man in all of these films I would just love to see you know how Al Pacino kind of got stuck in Scent of a Woman Like That kind of performance yeah yeah I would love to see like that big boy Caprice look carry over into like heat and Scent of a Woman and Glenn Gary Glen Ross Christopher Nolan's insomnia oh my god oh speaking of you look again I don't know the man and I can't get him on the phone if I could get on the phone I'll be like Warren baby here's a few options for you how about this the Irishman style reboot they could D age absolutely you do do a modern thing like a dhu digitally or how about this what about a Telltale Game are you gonna go and explain to him a Telltale Game his grandkids can do it okay God duh producers apparently lobbied former president Ronald Reagan to play the role of prune face but this was mixed by Warren Beatty Warren Beatty is our openly political fairly left-leaning Minds that's right he's one of those Hollywood liberals that's right and I think Reagan was in the depths of dementia at that point I'm pretty confident as well right being brought on set it'd probably knock him off at that point I reckon definitely yeah when Tracy leaps off the side of the building onto a Lamppost he smashes his face into the pole Warren Beatty was asked about the seniors later and if he felt bad for the stunt person but he said that was me a 50 year old man doing that yeah I like it and it counts as a sex he said that's how he's doing it yep that's right okay accidental Falls Count he's racking him up these days some other names that apparently were considered because he wasn't always necessarily going to be Dick Tracy but we had James Khan Harrison Ford Richard Gere Mel Gibson Paul Newman Robert Redford George C Scott and Tom Selleck all under the one trench coat that's right so we talked about box office and budget and all of that but this actually became the highest grossing film of Warren Beatty's career and here's a quote from Al Pacino in regards to this film does it start with whoa thank you a wonderful artistic film a wonderful artistic film even though now it's like it doesn't even exist yeah whose fault is that Warren Beatty that's the thing right people don't know about this and I know a big part of that is because he's just holding on to the rights but people don't talk about this just like they don't talk about the shadow it's like they don't talk about other movies we'll probably talk about yeah what is it about this that the movie in itself that is so kind of like who cares I don't I mean look as much as I wanted to say okay well the thing that's comic book movies and superhero movies that makes them successful as they have heart and they have you know the good ones they have heart and they have you know they have they have themes and so on and so forth I think the thing about a lot of comic book movies is they have cool as hell gadgets and cars and stuff watch I guess he's got that watch post Batman 1989 I think people you know because that had you know a tragic backstory but it also had that scene where he flies the the Batwing over the moon and makes the bat symbol and he flies it down he shoots a bunch of rockets on the Joker and then the Joker has that really big long gun that was freaking sick it's freaking sick right and we never did work out whether that was an extended gun or we just had a really long barrel down his pants leg no we did James it would have been an extended gun right yeah he collapses it you see him collapse it I don't see anything and I quite frankly I oh look I he's just not that interesting I think that's it yeah again everything else around this yeah very interesting I don't know I mean I think I think there's a reason that your costume superheroes made the jump to you know the bigger screen or the comic books and you know Etc and I I don't think huffy's gold he hasn't got it kid that's right you ain't got it anyways come back next week for famous 1930s character The Rocketeer he's from the 80s he really screwed this up didn't he The Rocketeer but I'm looking forward to talking about that one and if you do want to see that earlier you can actually head over to bigsandwich.co where these videos always go up early don't they that's right that's not the only thing that goes up there we also do video game Let's Plays we also do movie commentaries we also do bonus podcasts our podcast the weekly planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows that comes out there Sunday as opposed to Monday we can just check that out on its own YouTube channel Spotify apple or whatever whatever Etc yeah yeah uh final thoughts on Dick crazy I didn't love it yeah I wanted to love it yeah yeah um I like when all those guys got shot that was cool I thought breakfast from honey too horny yeah yeah dial it back lady yeah just settle down settle down no remember you're in a PG-13 movie okay all right thanks everyone grab that Jamie guys we'll see you next week bye foreign

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Length: 25min 23sec (1523 seconds)

Published: Thu Sep 14 2023