Dhar Mann Is In Big Trouble... | Sad Boyz

welcome to sad boy it's a podcast about feelings and other things also I'm Jarvis I'm Jordan I was just thinking about how thankful I am that we have an intro line oh yeah because we can just you can just throw it anywhere sometimes I'm in an awkward conversation at a party and I just go welcome to sad voice just to break the awkward silence to break the awkward silence don't walk away I'll find you no matter where you go yeah I know your address yeah we into every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase It's a coordinates I was like trying to end a combo um how the hell are you doing Jordan it's Thursday morning it's Thursday it's 10 ish it's finished um I'm good I we actually moved recording a little earlier and we might we might stick with the timing and I feel great I like the morning because it's one of the few times that I'm happy it's been about an hour and a half yeah an hour and a half in and then the reality sets in all right no we've had we've been running on a little bit of a a Content High yeah we've been we we've been we've been doing stuff we've been going harder better faster stronger I think it's okay sometimes to acknowledge external validation oh yeah it's good to find like a center that makes life sustainable without outside influences but then also it's nice to just every now and then put your hands up and be like it's nice that that thing got views it's nice that that got feedback also this is the most regular the show has been so it's it's the tightest the feedback cycle has been like a few days ago we recorded the last episode you asked for some pen pals um yeah and we've got them and we're like gonna be able to read them today we go stacked out part of the reason that we're doing it a little bit early today is I have to go to a boxing thing after this oh there's like a little media day for Creator Clash oh like a press event yeah I think that's one yeah so um Dana White across town and so I'm going to speed in my car as soon as this recording is over uh I asked you yesterday actually or maybe the day before do you have a hair plan I don't I don't and it's it is giving me mild anxiety because I can do what some people did which is like braid their hair um and I could also shave it off I don't think I'm gonna do that um or I could do something else I don't really know what is like if there's rules about hair like what if I didn't do anything is that like a problem what if you use your hair in combat right like I just like I whip it out and I like strangle them yeah isn't there a one two three go like that that we watched I do think well no problem oh it's short hair versus tall and then she grabs someone with her hair she grabbed Somewhere over the hair is that before or after she got struck by lightning I think it was after because I remember my throat hurting from laughing and screaming um I get that clip sent to me a lot yeah which is nice caption chat sometimes it's a DM with like context for a reference or something and then every now and then it's just like somebody that's clearly just seen a video right they're like look at your video yeah I remember I do like the um every time every time I post a video now someone uses the um uses the GIF of you going good video Jarvis [Laughter] which is which is great I think you're the only person who's allowed to touch my hair um yeah that's true yeah yeah and say what the hell yeah what's going on did I tell you I'm sure I have like in sixth grade someone touched my hair and they told me it felt like a sheep were you me yeah at the time yeah I was actually how old is six bird like 11. that that was the peak time for me also yeah it's like that weird empathy Gap where kids like just have absolutely no filter and they just say whatever I guess people uh have in the back of their mind certain ages where it's appropriate to touch someone else's child and it should be never right but it should be all the time never they're like personal space uh never heard of it no thank you actually not a crime yet um yeah the touch in the hair I got sheep I got uh it's so fluffy you'll have a slack softer when you're a kid right yeah for sure it was curlier it was just better no it was always kind of this color mine had exactly managed my scared and I wore brown clothes you were a sheep actually stay in my eyes on my teeth you were a Jordan Chief's clothing and body you're not cheap always which is equally weird because like you have sheep in Georgia I guess I mean like there's probably some sheep I don't really know I remember it does feel like a class thing because I'm like yeah I bet you probably did go pet some sheep not me I was never at the petting zoo I was grinding on the streets or whatever I was in my truck I was I was in my truck working uh going uphill both ways to school I was wearing my Punisher t-shirt he had my All-America uh All-America it's so funny that cops Love The Punisher I was wearing so many costumes yeah I was wearing a red hat that said uh make uh make kids work again this is gonna catch on I swear this is gonna catch on I promise it's never gonna age poorly how the hell are you I'm good um I'm good I've kind of just been like doing stuff everything's a blur every time someone asks me how I'm doing or what I did this weekend like I'll go to training on a Monday and my trainer will be like what were you up to this weekend and I completely blank I have no idea what I was up to and I almost never remember I have to go look at my calendar to figure out like what it was that I did you know the answer is not nothing at all I don't think but it's also possible like that's happened before which is like substantial it's still like uh remarkable to just be like I'm gonna just rested like it was interesting it's a healthy day but for some reason this is why people default to like if you're in the street how you doing like great all good fine great did I this is another thing that I've probably talked about before but um not to put someone on blast who we used to work with who I don't think you'll remember um because it was truly the year 2016. um one time I was in line for lunch at patreon and I was um standing behind a co-worker online he was one of those guys who's like a well let's play Devil's Advocate type guy where he like took things a little bit too literally sometimes yeah yeah and I uh and he would like be willing to get into an argument or or a disagreement like a contrarian yeah and uh so that I guess is a necessary context for when I said hey how how are you doing or something he was like hey Jarvis and I was like hey dude how are you doing and he was like well me and Jessica are kind of having a hard time and I was like wait what and it's like and I gotta I gotta get the kids from school and I was like I uh brother we have to eat I'm sorry I just want to eat my chicken breasted rice the food is getting cold I don't know what I've started but I wanted to stop especially I'm glad you asked do you have any time I'm not really hungry could we take like a couple hours like my therapist was busy yeah no literally and I immediately my fight or flight was like activated and I would say how do I get out of the situation because I will lie I will lie in a situation to get myself out of it that is uncomfortable I'll have to go to the bathroom when I don't have to do that um or I'll need to respond to someone or you know text someone something important that wasn't really important any excuse really to get myself out of this situation phone's being insane oh my God I someone calling you oh sorry I'm uncomfortable and I need to go okay it's an excuse me in your life yeah of course of course um for a second I thought something was actually happening you don't like me no absolutely in fact I'm just not comfortable enough with you because of the weird [ __ ] I was doing right and so I need to go collect myself and reclaim my space and uh the bathroom that was what at the time five feet away yeah dude the there were a couple moments a couple like what felt like significant moments of the patreon office being like Optics of this are maybe not great do you remember when they got rid of the ping pong table yeah it was like yeah no good this it's not the ping pong is bad it is what offices with ping pong tables tend to be like which I get like I remember like I remember when I was applying for jobs or when I was in college and it was it was the height of of tech companies going hey we're pretty cool you can like hang out in the ball pit or you can play ping pong with the boys your stapler is covered in jello and also there's always a Nerf war going on so you better build your barricades around your desk and then normal people are like I want to do my job I don't want to be engulfed in a in a war of Nerf yeah how about Insurance yeah that would actually be how about can we make this space um normal and accommodating to most people to do a job that I have rather than like a specific type of man child um because that was the thing like I remember some of the old like careers pages of of these tech companies would have like here on Facebook we're just hanging out on Ripsticks all the time Whimsical names on the uh Facebook brought Ripsticks to a hackathon that they hosted at my college um and we were just like ripsticking in the like atrium of like this like uh campus Building while like a hackathon was going on and we were just chilling out we're like whoa Facebook seems so cool dude you guys are doing what to democracy sorry I can't hear you over the sick ripstick I don't care I'm doing Diablo yeah literally I can't hear you right now I'm playing with my devil sticks yeah yeah what happened to my voice there hey what did Mark Zuckerberg do he's beyblading he's oh [ __ ] let it rip dude I should do we should organize a Creator class that's Beyblade oh I'm in or something that like because I think similar to like boxing or chess boxing it's fun to take a bunch of known names that are entertaining and like committed and push them into something they've never done before something that a lot of the audience maybe also wasn't familiar with so initially I was thinking like a ccg or something like what if we all played Hearthstone yeah yeah probably a lot of the people we would want I've most of us have played Hearthstone right it would be interesting to do something like uh beyblading or maybe something with a little less Randomness do it well uh I mean that's like what Wolfie uh Wolfie VGC shout out um recently won a Regional Championship in Pokemon um for Pokemon BGC uh he organized essentially like a smash Summit but for but for Pokemon BGC it invited a bunch of content creators um you know like Ludwig Alfred uh Jaden animations uh the void was there um not me I wasn't invited uh because of what you did yeah but I would have crushed so round two hit me up Wolfie I used to back in the day I used to do Pokemon battling when I was a child a teenager but that type of thing is really cool and I think the event like went really well now you're more of like the professor like you know you're collecting them over time I am a bit like a professor no I didn't mean like until I was don't no don't get smoke like no you know the thing of it that I've learned in my years you're a boy or a girl yeah first and foremost I have one important question what what is this what are you what are you doing oh no reason yeah I just before I'm before before I have a conversation with a young child I just need to ask them their biological say I asked their pronouns and then if that we hang out and they work for me it makes me it makes me feel better to know their uh how they identify that would be so funny is if you pick girl or they don't let you play oh sorry you should have bought Pokemon pink version yeah come on yeah Professor Oak killed yeah famous Professor murdered impeded by Tauros um speaking of none of the stuff we were talking about that's actually a good intro to the clips Channel yeah I was yeah speaking of none of the other stuff um I was watching basketball yesterday I was watching basketball because I was talking to um friend of the show ruxin34 who is a Yu-Gi-Oh pack opening Channel he is a basketball fan big basketball guy big LeBron guy and I was talking to him about a video I just put out and he was like oh I can't wait to watch it but right now I'm watching LeBron get the scoring record and I was like oh [ __ ] let me tune into that because we have friends who are into basketball Anastasia our producer for the other videos and stuff we do is uh big into basketball and I like the sport um I just like need a personal connection to it like I need to be invited over to watch a game in order to watch a game or like have someone else come over um and it's such a huge part of the enjoyment right yeah it's like wrestling story narratives yeah yeah exactly um there's so many things I will watch if someone just like makes a party out of it and um for context LeBron James is 38 years old it is a medical miracle that he has been able to play basketball for the past 20 years professionally um let alone reaches scoring a lot of there are kids now entering the NBA who were born when he entered the NBA and speaking of being born when LeBron James was born Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had just had his own you know uh uh many years-long basketball career where he got a scoring record like all time points scored that people were like this will never be broken because there'll never be someone this good for this long to actually generate this this number of points this is a scene that's in sepia like flash yeah no literally and so LeBron James is finally at that point in his career he's trying to last because he wants to play in the NBA with his son brawny who's like I think in the next couple years gonna enter the league um which is cool see that's such a good storyline track you know what I mean yeah anime style it's an anime storyline for sure the Lakers are playing Oklahoma City it is the third quarter they're counting down the points until LeBron gets the scoring record in the score record by the way is like 38 000 uh 380 or 830 it's something like that there's a lot of Threes And eights but 38 000. and uh so they're like only 11 more points only you know nine more points whatever in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who's 75 years old now is in the stands and they keep cutting to him and he's smiling every time like LeBron gets gets the goal right at the end of the third quarter LeBron has this beautiful Fade Away jumper uh over two Defenders two get the record it like it was a shot where I was like no shot this is it they were like maybe this is it and then it was something happened that I have never seen before in my life they stop the game in the third quarter it's not a timeout it's not into regulation it's not a quarter break there's still 30 seconds left in the third quarter they clear the field they start a ceremony they play a video that is like a retrospective of LeBron's career they bring out the commissioner of the NBA Adam Silver they bring out karebo duljabbar they like award him like the key to the city essentially dude that's like a Simpsons joke the entire time it's like a 20 minute break in the middle of the game the Lakers are losing to celebrate LeBron beating this like like getting this generational record which I you cannot undersell how important the record is and this is a regular season basketball game but I've never seen something like this happen because like you've seen halftime shows you've never seen like a middle of the quarter like stop everything a surprise like LeBron gives a whole speech and then he like adapts up Jay-Z and then they go back to the 30 seconds left in the third quarter and the layers loose it was like such an interesting thing like he also said the f word I think on live television which is [ __ ] by the way yeah we can say it um I'm sorry I guess that isn't clear yeah it was just so comical because I'm just imagining the Oklahoma City players who are like winning the game being essentially Iced Out by this like perf like this ceremony uh he was it was really something to behold yeah dude it's like uh it's the conclusion of Space Jam was like Michael Jordan doing his weird extended um cartoon moment yeah dunking it and then checking the scoreboard and they lost by a huge number of points they were like that was so sick your slaves now is the rule actually it's like if if during a regular season game of the Chicago Bulls when Michael Jordan was playing they um cut to a scene of Space Jams look at that cool [ __ ] Michael did pretty crazy pretty crazy right anyway um we're gonna bring out the commissioner and we're gonna out I'll talk about how cool Space Jam is did you watch the Last Dance I did watch The Last Dance So Good amazing I honestly I recommend it's on Netflix I recommend the Last Dance uh to people that aren't even like interested no it's just a good documentary it's I mean it tells the story of the notorious sociopath Michael yeah tell us the story of the I guess the final it's really does chronicle all of like Michael Jordan's like accolades but specifically they have all this footage of like their final uh Championship season um I think which is why it's called the Last Dance because they went for like they had two three Pete's in a row the Chicago Bulls in the 90s um where they won national championship after National Championship then then Michael Jordan retires from basketball and then comes back and then wins three more championships there's also uh uh don't worry everyone there's other people in the documentary other than anime villain Michael Jordan the other people in the documentary are people who have wronged Michael Jordan and then talking about how he wronged them and then how he got back at them and then Dennis Roman just big chilling yeah literally yo you ever watched Flavor of Love I absolutely have yes I watched it as it aired we have been on a binge oh really mine you should come around we'll watch season four uh Ethan's just been been watching it with Logan is oh I I can't believe I've never seen this show before it's wild it's such a specific period of time it is like Beauty And The Geek Beauty And The Geek classic uh just exploitation Cinema that I feel like wrapped up near I Want to Marry Harry that feels like the latter era of that right because that's definitely what they were going for they I Want to Marry Harry with standing on the shoulders of jazz and they still like kind of didn't do that I think it got canceled before it ended or whatever Flavor of Love looks like it was made for five thousand dollars a season yeah and I love that they play off the bachelor Mansion like it's flaves Mansion oh yeah well that was the era yeah of like there are episodes of there's this famous episode of cribs with the Yin Yang Twins where they are giving they're giving a tour of a house that is not there so they're like hey man this is a fish tank we love the fishes is this good they're like pretty wet huh yeah it's like clearly it's just it looks like a house that was um staged for like selling you know like when they put a bunch of they put a bunch of furniture in to make it look lived in fake fruit yeah yeah because we've seen like houses and stuff where it's like oh yeah here's like where the living room is here's what like a living room could look like if you were to move in they just like plopped the Ying Yang Twins behind that door and then they go Welcome to our crib and I think they've done stuff like that where they just wouldn't let people or for one reason or another people couldn't crib their actual homes well maybe they don't want like yeah yeah some people don't want to some people it's like doesn't look that good and it's not like like there is so there's such a Delta between like the richest famous person and the least Rich famous person to the point where like look I'm sure the union took into doing like pretty good yeah but they went they were putting like Rodman money you know what I mean it would be so distracting to see their like four bedroom right it also like sometimes people don't buy a house at like the stage of you know the their their rise that they're in maybe they're touring all the time and they you know got swept up in it all and haven't really had a chance to like really settle down and figure out what they're doing but the Phase Clan didn't buy their house right they just uh they just paid like a bajillion dollars a month for rent yeah you ever seen that hundred thieves office I've seen pictures of it a little that told they did uh some tool video right after they got it um I'll call it okay I'm not gonna not gonna like suggest it maybe it's like one of the most boring oh it's crazy I just don't get it like if you if you're making like a shared office space for creators I don't know what it's a bland looking I think it's just like I mean it's just it's not a priority okay it's probably just they got an office you know it reminds me of um and that was like the end of it like remember when the well I guess it's the second patreon office but the patreon office that we worked in that we have the most memories of was very the first three years in the news yeah it's like very like homey very like felt like a Creator space and then I would guess most of the press images are from I I mean but nowadays I don't know you know because it was like old logo days too and um and then you know patreon got this new corporate looking logo that's very professional looking and it makes sense for what they're trying to do but then also got a new office because it was the company was expanding and the new office has way less character you know what I mean because at a certain size it's like how can you there's only so many places that you can like rent yeah that even like like satisfy that many people yeah especially at that scale like your options are be apple scale and build like a spaceship or whatever like the Apple uh uh one apple Circle or whatever looks like uh it's about to take off um or yeah you build like Facebook campus where it's like you don't have to go anywhere else you just live here now at work oh that sounds like a good time yeah it's good in the metaverse yeah it really is it really is a there's like shops and like it feels like you're in an RPG Hub World Jesus I'd go insane yeah that pay to win environment but that was a live service building yeah my insurance BLC updates that was a I I cannot stress enough how much that was the goal at a certain point in time and how celebrated it was that Google had like slides in their office and stuff like that and now we're at a time where tech companies are laying off thousands and thousands and thousands of thousands of employees it's all over the news every company decided um you know what we over hired by exactly 15 what are the odds and that they all like laid people off and um and uh now I think people are a lot more cynical a lot more you know hold a critical eye to like big Tech but in the early 2010s it was like Nirvana yeah and uh there was just like no question about it it was like you've got a campus you get free food oh my gosh oh yeah it's actually like not unlike actors and stars in the late 80s early 90s where it's like Tom Cruise in the 90s in the early 2000s he's a hero to everyone and he's cool and he's in what code yeah sorry what's what's going on it's because you become three-dimensional you get access to social media and like the proliferation of information and also just like cynicism in general I think cynicism came into Chic in the 2000s and the stratification of celebrity with that where like uh you know now there's so many niche you know internet micro celebrities not unlike ourselves um not that we're the same as Tom Cruise but I think we're you know yeah we are scientologists that's where we started let me check my uh my Revenue stats real quick yeah oh yeah it's still good yeah the top gun Maverick we're a couple of Top Gun Mavericks right here has anybody use that um no but uh like because people can kind of find extremely Niche interests there's less like grandiose celebrity there still are some I think like you know you're Harry Styles of the world your BTS of the world there's still these like Larger than Life characters but um on the whole things are like no I wouldn't say evening out but there is just it's like music as well you know there's like no there's not an Elvis I guess the closest is BTS but or like these K-pop stars but um I don't think it's I I don't think it's a coincidence that and this is not a criticism of it this is the goal and how it works it is heavily manufactured in a way that a lot of music was in the 2000s in the west don't get me wrong but full of Industry plants still and the like yeah but as far as like putting in the hours to find to build the most talented yeah and they they also like do press events and public events where they deliberately get like um uh black pink they'll get like members of blackpink to like drop something cutely and then pick it up so that it's made into a gif right right right right that I mean like I can't speak because I'm not super keyed into the K-pop stuff but I can speak for like what it was like in the 90s where you had like um in sync working in like a Miami like boy band hot box where they were just like sweating and dancing and singing on treadmills for like for like 80 hours a week until they were like the perfect performing specimen they see if they can dance under the gravity and heat of the sun yeah they're literally they were like doing like Vegeta exercises like at like a multiple of Earth's gravity in order to prepare for like a world tour um all the while they were uh uh Lou Pearlman was like robbing them of of money there's a great documentary in this called the boy band con that was produced by Lance Bass oven sync check it out we should hunt down we should like uh brainstorm over the course of like next week or whatever weird Niche interests or trivia we know a lot about yeah you are very informed about NSYNC law uh yeah you were into it at the time yeah and I think now it's like I enjoy it not ironically I enjoy it for you know what it was you know it was a time I mean yeah I guess the modern one for you is is Pokemon more accurately yeah yeah I mean both apply mine's kissing yeah mine's uh ladies getting laid you should try it and I do know how to do it and I'm Not Afraid um so two things uh I want to talk about just look at these heartthrobs just look it's just objectively great look at them executive director uh uh Lou Perlman that guy is a terrible man he also created the Backstreet Boys created the Backstreet Boys created in sync and robbed them blind did a bunch of uh sketchy stuff and then died coincidence was I involved but fun facts fun facts the NSYNC album no strings attached um oh that's in plastic wrap I see unopened yeah it's unopened uh it's still sealed uh the uh so so no strings attached the album by NSync is um the name of it is in reference to the fact that oh that's right uh NSYNC sued Lou Pearlman um because Lou Pearlman claimed that he had the rights to the name and sync and claim that he was the a founding member of instinct claimed that he was a member of the band and that was a that was a loophole that he used uh to essentially siphon money from the band because he was technically their manager which meant there's some sort of like laws like limiting what he could do but because he was a member of the band I don't know anyway oh it's like it's like uh churches being organizations or like yeah yeah LLCs so he like they would they went to court uh he went to court basically saying he owns the name in sync and that he is in sync and the judge was basically like my uh child has an insync poster and you were nowhere on that you were nowhere on that poster but the thing was that like they were not sure if they would be able to use the name in sync and so uh when they won their they won back they won the rights to their name they won the lawsuit against Lou Pearlman and the name no strings attached is in reference to uh them no longer be attacked being attached to Loop program who do you think we could go on the show oh you know I want to say Lance has done like videos with Hannah Hart in the past he and uh he was like very Loosely involved in one of the seasons of the circle oh he was uh his assistant was one of the people on there and she was catfishing as him oh that's awesome he's in a hand full of Clips just like you keep it up Samantha I I do think that I do think that having a member of insync on sad boys would be one of the crowding achievements of my life we have like a we have like a dream guest list uh I'll just I'll shout out one or two yeah sure Peak Peak Peak would be like Donald Glover oh yeah and that's on my mind because we I sent you that clip from the table read yeah oh I love it I love it love uh love Pedro Pascal um people look up there's a there's a clip that uh from the community table read that they were doing over covert yeah like a number of table reads and one of them has Pedro Pascal in it who's uh even more in the Zeitgeist than usual reading for Pierce because uh Chevy Chase doesn't have a good relationship with Community or really anything um but he's reading for PSO he's not that familiar with like the script yeah as he's going through it he for like two four minutes just can't like finish this he can't finish the scene because of what he has to say and I don't want to spoil it but it is so funny so if you just look up like Pedro Pascal laughing Community table read you're gonna find it and it's just the beaming faces of the Beautiful cast of Community your Donald Glovers your Danny poodies your Gillian Jacobs is you're Joel McHale's um who am I forgetting Danny pootie I said that um uh Laverne what's her name Shirley is played by oh uh Brown's last name Yvette Nicole Brown oh we got there yeah sorry we just disregard African-American women we don't care as much preempting one email saying yeah yeah yeah but yeah that's why not because she's the least prolific of all of them I love it but yeah she's great um you ever seen a Joe McHale pre hair plugs in Spider-Man 2. no but I ha I do see him a lot because uh shout out to Eddie uh Eddie and Tony um of burback fame um the burback channel had a video about the game awards and uh Joel McHale is he was like in that Spike TV yeah Zeitgeist of that time and so him just being like the heel of a host that like hates entertainment it's like a Proto commentary YouTuber it was like extra cynical and just like hates everything I think he's like not I mean you know Jasmine's very successful and I think I'm you know I find him fairly funny I Joe McHale is like my preferred version of Anthony oh yeah for sure it's all the like it's a little bite a little Edge a little cynicism but not like as mean-spirited maybe it's like the bit that gets you isn't like I can't believe he said it yeah it is funny how Anthony jeselnick's whole bit I I feel like kind of aged out of society because I I do I do remember like what like watching Caligula and some of his other stuff and thinking this guy's very talented and he's obviously playing a character because I've heard he's like super nice yeah um but I just don't know if the because there would be National tragedies that would happen and then he would like tweet like a joke about them and it was the whole thing of I can't believe he said that and I do think as a society we're like that's no longer edgy or interesting uh it's just mean spirited I think we're over it yeah not to promote another podcast uh but Sarah Silverman's podcast he talks a little bit about her Revolution through that and she also mentioned something uh she's mentioned in the past but it really resonated recently um while I was listening to the show there is like a a long history of her reviews especially in the uh the kind of pre-jesus's magic special lyrics one uh of people referring to her as potty mouth oh and that is like the gendered version of edgy mean rude halt doesn't hold back it almost feels like um infantilizing her a little bit yeah it's like the little you know oh look at what she'll say good video Germany yeah yeah yeah like I can't believe you the little girl over there saying this stuff and she's like I'm a grown ass woman yeah and she's just like talk she's just being like mildly yeah yeah that's interesting dude all-time favorite one of the top like five or ten favorites I think Sarah Silverman's like Sarah Silverman's the goat uh I will never forget her performance in School of Rock I know it's not a huge focus of anything but it the School of Rock was a formative formative movie for me it wasn't umely on Survivor yes and can I just talk about something thing that is crazy to me I almost went to Andrew Tate there um can I just talk about something that's crazy crazy to me um the same season that Mike White was on Survivor this guy John Morrison who is in Creator Clash was also on that season and I went to a sparring session uh because sometimes we like do a group spar and I sparred with him and I was like why do you look so familiar to me and it turns out that not only has he like a WWE star but he was also on the David versus Goliath season of Survivor with Mike White that is the only season I've seen all the way through and I remember yeah yeah and uh and he is like the most In-Shape man I have ever seen in my life he was just doing crazy like WWE like entrances to like the ring just like sliding in and doing like fun like stuff and uh I sparred him and um I he isn't like um a boxer by trade he's like learning boxing like the rest of us and so uh I got like a few body shots on him while we were sparring and I could feel his abs under my glove I could feel how ripped he was yeah you couldn't get the glove off his abs grabbed they grabbed me with their little hands wait everybody you go um anyway nicest man nicest man ever I honestly like I uh I I naturally like any um big dork uh childhood dork I was definitely like bro coding I was as a kid like always anti and then when I moved here I had all this like anti-bro coding uh elitism and then while we were working at patreon all the most athletic people with the nicest and kindness but it's very frustrating yeah Tony Tony ridiculous shape yeah it looks like a Greek god in one of the kindest feelings he's like the only nice Greek god he doesn't turn his balls into a tree he's the Greek god of kindness actually uh Cody started the damn gym I said damn a goddamn Jim's you know damn James shout out to a legit I believe it's called yes yeah uh we all the time of course yeah do you know what you want to do you want to like start a jam yeah [ __ ] it I'll do it yeah not boxing do like MMA yeah I I do like the idea of starting a gym of something I don't know what I'm doing at all it's like I'm just the landlord it's like it's like Rocky's trainer you know it's like that guys knows about boxing he's like yeah I'm just older I'm like past you should see me in my Prime right right if we like put on all my makeup we're like yeah I actually invented MMA yeah everyone was like you can't put two martial arts together and I was like watch me and I put on the lab coat and I poured Chemical X into the concoction um dude what were you gonna ask though uh you wanna not ever do the show again okay kind of cool like as a [ __ ] uh no I was gonna ask do you have I know we talked about it before um like do you want to keep up boxing I know boxing the event is not as much of a priority but is there anything you don't get to do right now like bodybuilding for example for like you know know I think some people do weight training I think I'm strong enough or at least I've been told that I'm strong enough that I should just be focusing on cardio and stuff it would also make you heavier yeah and and I think for me I've always wanted to be leaner uh so I've I've always wanted to be more of like a runner um and it's it's evaded me but um I think I want to do more of that something that I want to keep up with I think I'm going to get a surgery to fix my like nose because I can't breathe through my nose deviated septum I yeah or something I need it I was told that I had to deviated septum but it does feel like even more extreme than that um and so I uh it's something that I can't fix before the fight because it's too late now but I think afterward I want to fix that because it I didn't know that like the optimal way to like run is to be breathing with your nose and or I just didn't notice my whole life because I've like never been an athlete really the one thing was I've seen you run you take big breaths to your mouth and then you scream them on the way out yay fast here we go gotta go fast gotta get you um now I was like four years old so no with context my mum has a deviated septum and she still okay she still does because she got surgery for it and then I stepped on her face oh my God I was just running around on the bed you know being silly she was resting I would I remember vividly going up to check on her you know four is like three or four of your first memories [Laughter] and I don't know the details I mean I assume you know it was supposed to be healing and that I think so yeah I think afterward after you get to surgery you are supposed to remember it was almost surgical but I did I didn't say about a mouthful if you if she hadn't had the surgery you would have fixed her nose but it's one of those like two rocks yeah two negatives make a positive like Homer Simpson gets knocked on the head and you can play piano yeah exactly oh do I want that to happen to be so bad okay so there's two of two things I'm like should we talk about them yeah we probably don't have enough time to get into the darman's I was going to ask the man himself yeah uh well like what we can just say is like everything we would talk about is in the video you put out short of his shitty apology not apology that shitty stuff yeah so I guess I guess what I'll say is um as of recording uh Thursday 9th of February right now Thursday 9th of February they're protesting it's still going on um the Darman Studio those people have released a statement I made a video before their statement came out and I probably will make another video I'm not sure if it will be this week covering what's happened or uh next week but yeah um stay tuned uh support the I support the workers I watched a live stream last night with a few of the actors and they were just like kind of disputing the were the statement that came out and some of the stories were very bad um and so uh onset behavior in addition to just like yeah just like one of the things and they just brought this up casually was that um one of the actors was working very closely with an actor who they did not know had covid so the actor had covid was on set working the whole crew knew apparently and did not tell this actress and then she like went home to her parents she went home to her uh partner and then the next day she was not feeling well and then they told her at that point oh you didn't know ex-person had coveted and she told that story on on live stream so I mean obviously like it's her story I don't I can't verify the claim but uh it's wild and to to be very charitable which is not what I believe you could say that but it's just an inefficient set and they're not communicative to be probably more realistic they didn't tell them because they didn't want to shut down production yeah I'm yeah cause I'm like if you're if the person with covet is working that bothers me but I don't know what because I because Hollywood with the unions the the union Hollywood uh I I feel is really strict about covet stuff at least from what I've heard from actor friends and stuff uh and it's one of the few Industries that's like continuing to take covered precautions very seriously so to hear that is like well the uh I'll say from from although you know albeit it was for audio fiction podcasts but a lot of the diligence I had about sag paperwork and following Saga Screen Actors Guild um following sag rules and uh obligations albeit this is pre-covered was the an honor System on my part they were not checking anything I was at the level where we did have to do minimum day rates at the very least and stuff like that and uh sag insurance and the like and they never fold up with any of this stuff I was like not obliged to do it I did it you know seemed vulnerable yeah like the right thing to do but it is very um I would have to assume they're probably getting day minimum which is 335 and they're probably getting at oh no also here's the thing they are not getting day minimums they are not getting day rates they are being paid hourly and which is not a thing that you're supposed to do um because it's not it's not Union but essentially like they one of the things that the actors were complaining about is that the statement that darmian Studios came out with was talking about how like these are contractors they're not employees you know they're able to work on other projects yada yada yada and they're like yes well technically it's true that we can work on other projects it is often the case that we will be like retained asked to hold four days or something like that and then at the last minute the production needs can change and then they just have one day of work and then I'll paid for that retained time and they're not paid for the retain time which if they were Union they would be and then also um they're just paid for the hours that they're filming and the minimum is two hours so it's possible that you could have cleared your full four days show up on set for two hours and be paid like 88 bucks for like all of your all of your work and so and these are also I mean they're working actors so like you take everything you can so you clear those four days and they also a lot of them are repeat so they want to retain relationships being alluded to the fact and these are all their claims of course I can't you know verify the uh truth of them but they've said that like they feel like it's an environment where if they take other jobs they're like oh okay well you've got other jobs then I guess we won't book you on other stuff and it's like that it feels like a very like abusive work culture in their words so I I'm just hearing this stuff and I'm like oh my God like my heart goes out to these people did you know Darman has 3 000 actors that they've worked with um oh do you know we by the way we have a connect to I don't know if it's when we watched I think the D one we did watch together oh yeah the main guy in that we have a connective we we I mean actually I don't know if this is include the episode or not um I would maybe use like a bonus in episode and like one of us isn't free we just do it I think it would be interesting to have an actor on as a platform to release on the feed yeah like a 20-minute interview and just goes yeah I've been thinking about that it kind of just I know some things are cooking for them and I don't want to like step on their toes in terms of what they want to do but let them cook me let them cook but uh I have kind of been in the DMS talking with a few of the actors and uh coordinating because I don't want to kind of jump the gun on stuff if they're planning other stuff so you know solidarity to the actors um and uh we'll see how this I hope that there's a you know resolution for the for the best of all of them but um we should also acknowledge a controversy that we're probably being wrapped up in the comment section has probably popped off on them I just want to officially apologize in advance we did get different microphones we did get the first time in the show's history we think of different microphones and uh with the little the little windscreen looks weird I will yeah I will I will address that fact um we're gonna we're gonna try and rectify this as soon as possible uh but we made a mistake culpability uh yeah it's a continuous and repeated lapse in our judgment and I'm the bad guy for this yeah um I live long enough to become the villain yeah so hopefully we'll get new little uh microphone afros for these guys um because it's nice to it's nice to hold this mic it's easy to talk into and I think for our guests they won't have to because our other our other mics you had to like hold them like right up to your face yeah and giving yourself carpal tunnel yeah and it obscured our faces yeah which you know you would you love to see right dear viewer the money maker the money maker leave a comment leave a comment saying you like to see our faces Oh e h h e h um your face is bad okay so real quick before we rap and I have to run away and speed down the highway I will be driving responsibly everybody don't worry um last week we did ask for a little pen pal homework yes um and it was for awkward encounters normally we'll have more time for this uh so while I was walking over here I just had the most like I'm I'm my brain is now half British because I was away for those two years I I almost bumped into someone that was carrying something across the street I didn't even nearly bump into them I just stopped and waited for them five feet away and I went on Instinct sorry I just apologized and she went hi to get going hey there or something like that it's like this is way more fun than what I did uh all right we have that one okay oh yeah thanks for everyone we asked for awkward stories they're they're still welcome uh a lot of them did crack me up just from reading them and listen to awkward stories I mean we're just looking for interesting pen pals type stuff which part of gmail.com yeah but the advice questions still open to you know send anything and you want just say hi somebody sent in I'll just send you a picture a very elaborate thought on because they are a subscriber to gold does that make them a platinum subscriber because there's a lot of like precious metal sort of alchemy going on with with uh yeah the premium viewers Etc uh this is from they don't say whether or not they want their name included so I'll just say e a sports I wrote a letter it's in the game this is my true calling as an unknown as an unbelievably awkward person pronounces she hurt uh Kia Ora tatau my lovely himbos I live in oh come on out out here should I read it oh it's a New Zealand aotearoa that's gonna be my guess um I live in altaroa New Zealand but my family is pretty much all in England so I was going to visit them and stopped over in um stopped I can't read either stopped over in a few European countries on the way and embarrassed myself many times and also found out that Europeans are far less chilled than kiwis when you [ __ ] up I was in this relative that's why we left okay I was in this relatively fancy hotel that had a whole ass buffet and nice as hell restaurant in New Zealand it's typical to go out in PJs and we just generally care less for constantly having to look presentable I respect that I like that that's me so I was already sticking out pretty bad amongst these people for breakfast who were already fully dressed and ready the room was packed and other than the person I was traveling with I didn't know anyone so I was feeling awkward anyways but there were these huge dispensers that had cereal in them I've seen these at like hotels and stuff yeah continental breakfast yeah and I wanted these chocolate ball looking things long story short when I went to dispense some into my bowl I broke the twisty lever thing oh [ __ ] I was holding it in the Kiwi strength I was I was holding it in just knowing that when I moved my hand away all hell would break loose but I did it anyway because I'm an idiot I had an image in my mind of them holding it in a montage of the sun going down yeah they're literally like it's like Majora's Mask where like all of the Titans or whatever they're called uh the Giants are like holding up trying to hold up the moon yeah um the entire huge dispenser of cocoa balls came rolling out and because they are goddamn balls they rolled everywhere across the entire Hotel restaurant slash eating area and there were just cocoa balls everywhere and everyone in the room looked at me and I panicked and ran out the room and stood in the doorway watching everything unfold wait it just it all fell down picture this and then in the doorway I'm surprised I'm surprised they didn't slip on the balls um that would be the best work it was like yeah it was a looney tune situation workers went up to my friend who was with me who I straight up abandoned friend of the Year award goes to me and started yelling at her and accused her of breaking it and getting the balls everywhere so I had to walk back in tripping over balls as I go all right there we go to fess up and profusely apologize they were so angry understandably they aren't paid for this [ __ ] I mean it's not come on I don't think I understand they can be frustrated but like it's not your if it's so easy to break the thing then it's not the person who broke its fault do they say where in Europe they were no um we could all make a choice we can all make our choice of our least favorite the people with the shortest few oh yeah Jordan defrances This Is Why yeah they were all like [ __ ] balls do not paid to pick up balls they were so angry understandably they aren't paid for this [ __ ] and wouldn't serve us food okay that's [ __ ] that's insane that is insane it is not they just did not vandalize this thing um Ella I was ready to come home immediately then on the same trip there's an epilogue then on the same trip when I was visiting family in London uh oh I was holding a pack of beer bottles by the handle which snapped and they smashed all over the floor of the supermarket is this person like an ex man whose powers are emerging and they're like becoming too strong like I held it too tight and broke it they got angry at me again understandably I don't think so I don't think it's understandable this person has had so many of these situations in life that they're like maybe it's my fault yeah maybe it is my fault I am here to say uh EA Sports that it is not your fault I think maybe they could get angry if this was like the third day in a row yeah oh here we go also on this trip before I got out to my extended family in the UK one of my cousins and uncles thought it would be funny to tell my homophobic grandma that I'm a lesbian with a girlfriend in Sweden who I was e-dating for a laugh while we were at the family gathering uh-oh it's quite the laugh yeah doing something cruel while I don't have an online Swedish girlfriend I am gay so I don't think I need to explain how hilarious yet awkward that entire situation was I don't think it's a little bit European yeah they're like they're like they're like uh who was it one of my cousins and uncles thought it'd be funny to tell you know to to hate crime leads to like my family and I get it because it was a laugh you know what I mean the day prior they'd hit me with that smart car even I thought to myself oh James they're like well I wasn't actually dating someone of the same sex I do be gay though so I was asking for it no this is wrong okay you were wronged that's the part that's more offensive moral of the story Europeans are scary and I'm an idiot you're not an idiot EA Sports It's in the game EA Sports big um that went on way too long oh I love your content so much uh well thank you I just want you to be kinder to yourself is is what I want and also hey I haven't seen any great emails from Europeans let's just put it that way actually yeah there's gonna be another one awkward story I was working at the hotel which I hate if some loser uh bonjour yeah bonjour I was working at my French cafe when this freaking kiwi that sounds like a slur it was freaking New Zealander broke the chocolate ball dispenser I leaned down to get the bowls and the Ring of garlic around my neck fell off and my smell of cheese that I naturally have oh my God it's fine all right maybe stop throwing bananas under the picture when there's black players all right France I don't know anything they do oh God they all do well I like this story um it it was horrible but thank you for sharing I do want to hear more of these yeah they're great we've got we got a ton in but the more you send in the more welcome it is if you offer it I'm only playing around I'm not really all right we're I'm only playing around feel free to mention at the beginning of the email and so I'm gonna read it um I actually have I have a spam filter on emails uh dot um but uh yeah some more and they're great I really two EA Sports you are not the villain you're not the villain in any of these stories very kind of you um we end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry it's in the game boom we're sorry it's in the game see you later [Music]

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Length: 57min 57sec (3477 seconds)

Published: Fri Feb 10 2023