ANCHOR IN AMERICA. >> THAT'S "NIGHTLY NEWS." I'M LESTER HOLT. ♪♪ >>> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. I'M MORGAN RADFORD. WELCOME TO SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE SECOND NIGHT OF THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE OF THE 2020 ELECTION CYCLE RIGHT HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW. THIS IS A LIVE LOOK AT THE DEBATE STAGE WHERE IN JUST ABOUT AN HOUR, TEN MORE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES WILL TAKE THEIR PLACE AT THOSE PODIUMS. WE HEARD FROM THE FIRST TEN LAST NIGHT ON THAT SAME STAGE AND AGAIN THEY ARE STANDING BASED ON THEIR RESULTS IN PUBLIC POLLING THROUGH JUNE 12th. TAKING THE CENTER POSITION, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN AND BERNIE SANDERS. THEY'LL BE FLANKED BY BUTTIGIEG AND KAMALA HARRIS AND JUST A BIT ABOUT HOW THE NIGHT IS GOING TO WORK ON THE SECOND NIGHT. SAME DEAL. CANDIDATES HAVE 60 SECONDS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. 30 SECONDS TO RESPOND TO FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS AND THEN A FINAL CHANCE TO MAKE THEIR CLOSING STATEMENTS. BUT BEFORE THE NIGHT BEGINS, WE'RE HERE TO PREVIEW THE ISSUES THAT ARE LIKELY GOING TO COME UP. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AND THEN BREAK DOWN WHY THOSE ISSUES MATTER. OF COURSE, TONIGHT, ALL EYES WILL BE ON VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. HE'S LEADING THE REST OF THE PACK IN THE POLLS. THAT'S AT 32%. SENATOR SANDERS IS POLLING SECOND BASED ON THE REAL CLEAR POLITICS AVERAGE. WE SEE HIM AT 17%. AS A POINT OF COMPARISON, SANDERS HAS ALREADY BEEN TRYING TO CONTRACT HIS RECORD WITH BIDEN'S. BUT IF LAST NIGHT WAS ANY INDICATION, IT COULD BE THE CANDIDATES THERE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN WHO ARE POLLING IN THE LOWER SINGLE DIGITS WHO COULD BE THE MOST WILLING TO TAKE SHOTS AT THOSE STANDING IN THE CENTER STAGE. IN THE CENTER OF THE PODIUM AND THOSE ARE THE CANDIDATES POLLING MORE HIGH. HERE TO HELP ME DIVE INTO THE QUESTIONS, REPUBLICAN POLITICAL CONSULTANT MICHAEL SINGLETON, ALEX THOMPSON AND MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST SERLINA MAXWELL. >> HOW CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT? >> IT'S GOING TO BE FAR MORE COMBATANT. HE CAN SAY, I AM THE GUY >> THEY REPRESENT TWO DIFFERENT WINGS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE PROGRESSIVE WING AND MORE MODERATE CENTRIST WING. YOU'LL SEE THAT AND THEY'LL GO AT EACH OTHER AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING IT. >> ALEX, WHAT ABOUT THE BREAKOUT STARS. LAST NIGHT WE SAW A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TWEETING ABOUT JULIAN CASTRO. A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BOOKER. DO WE EXPECT TO SEE A SIMILAR BREAKOUT STAR TONIGHT. >> YOU'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE SOME, I GUESS, MORE EXOTIC CANDIDATES WHEN YOU HAVE ANDREW YANG, MARIANNE WILLIAMSON IN THE RACE. THEY'LL ATTRACT ATTENTION. AND THEN EVEN PEOPLE LIKE MICHAEL BENNET HAVE BENNETT, PE CAMPAIGN SAY THEY EXPECT TO DRAW A CONTRAST, THAT USUALLY MEANS THEY WILL GO ON THE OFFENSIVE. AND YOU HAVE MAYOR PETE AND KAMALA RIGHT THERE. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND HAS BEEN REALLY STRUGGLING TO GET THE DONORS UP, AND SHE WILL TRY TO MAKE HAD A MOMENT FOR HER LEVEL. >> WITH SO MANY FRONT-RUNNERS ON THE STAGE, HOW WILL THEY TRY TO DISTINGUISH THEIR TACTICS STRATEGICALLY IN TERMS OF GETTING THEIR PLATFORM OUT THERE? >> I THINK BERNIE SANDERS HAS TO HIT JOE BIDEN HARD AND SAY YOU ARE NOT IN TOUCH WITH WHERE THE CURRENT DEMOCRATIC PARTY, IS AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS TO SEE HOW JOE BIDEN RESPONDS. JOE BIDEN, WOULD I ARGUE, HAS A BIT OF A TEMPERAMENT. DOES HE SORT OF RISE ABOVE AND SAY, OKAY, WHATEVER, I'M STILL THE FRONT-RUNNER AND THE BEST ONE AGAINST TRUMP OR DOES HE SLING ARROW, IF YOU WILL, AT BERNIE SANDERS WHICH WOULD GIVE SOMEONE LIKE MAYOR PETE OR KAMALA HARRIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ELEVATE THEMSELVES. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY ABOUT THE TEMPER? >> WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS INTERVIEWING WITH AL SHARPTON AND HE WAS PRESSING HIM HARD, TRYING TO GIVE HIM EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO APOLOGIZE, YOU SAW A MOMENT WHERE HE GOT VERY DEFENSIVE AND REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY IF HE'S ATTACKED TOO MUCH, IF HE LOSES SUCH TEMPER RATHER I PREDICT THAT WE WILL SEE JOE BIDEN SORT OF SAY I'M THE BEST ONE TO DO THIS, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. LOOK AT MY POLL NUMBERS AND THAT MAY NOT RESONATE VERY WELL WITH DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. >> THE OTHER THING HE DOES IS HE MAKES A JOKE WHEN IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A JOKE. THE CONTROVERSY OVER HUGGING PEOPLE WITHOUT ASKING FOR OR TOUCHING PEOPLE WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION AND HE MADE A JOKE AT AN EVENT SUBS KEPTLY, I'M TALKING ABOUT LUCY FLORES, FOR EXAMPLE, AND HE MADE A JOKE, AND IT WAS VERY -- IT WAS VERY OUT OF TOUCH. IT WAS TONE DEAF GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS CONVERSATION SO I -- I HOPE THAT HE DOESN'T GAFFE THAT WAY SFWLEERT SPEAKING OF THE SERIOUS CONVERSATION, WAS IT JUST ME OR LAST NIGHT DID WE SEE THE MOMENTS WHERE THE CANDIDATES ALMOST LIKE TRIED TO OUTDEMOCRAT EACH OTHER GO, AS FAR AS THEY COULD TO THE LEFT, BUT IF THEY DO THAT TONIGHT DO THEY RISK THEN ALIENATING THE GENERAL POPULATION? >> I THINK THEY DO. JOE BIDEN, KAMALA HEY, AND I WOULD EVEN ARGUE MAYOR PETE IN MANY WAYS ARE SORT I WOULD SAY TRYING TO GET VOTERS FROM THE SAME CENTRIST WING OF THE PARTY THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. I THINK BERNIE SANDERS, HOWEVER, WILL TRY TO FOCUS ON SOME OF WHAT ELIZABETH WARREN TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER NIGHT. HE HAVE'S GOING TO SHOWCASE TO THOSE VOTERS THAT, YES, ELIZABETH WARREN IS A GOOD CANDIDATE BUT, REMEMBER, I'M THE ORIGINAL GUY. I'M THE ORIGINAL ONE WHO BROUGHT US THESE IDEAS FOUR YEARS AGO IN 2016, AND NOW LOOK AT HOW I HAVE SHAPED AND TRANSFORMED THE DEMOCRATIC THAT'S RIGHT. >> ALEX, WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> ON THAT QUESTION I THINK YOU HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT BIDEN AND BENT AND LOOK AT KAMALA TO SEE IF THEY TRY TO SAY I'M THE MOST PROGRESSIVE. BIDEN IS I'VE BEEN SO PROGRESSIVE ALL THE TIME OR DOES HE TRY TO STAKE OUT THE TIME AND SAY I'M NOT LIKE BERNIE, NOT GOING TO DO MEDICARE FOR ALL, AND DOES HE START ARGUING FOR THE CENTRIST WING THE PARTY OR SAY I'M PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH AND THAT DISTINCTION IS KEY. YOU SAW EVERYONE SAYING I'M PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH. >> WHO DO YOU THINK POSES THE BIGGEST THREAT TO BIDEN IN TERMS OF POLICY? WHO HAS THE MOST SIMILAR POLICIES? >> TODAY. OH, TODAY. I DON'T THINK THERE IS A DIRECT CHALLENGE TODAY. I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS ELIZABETH WARREN, BUT THAT'S NOT TODAY, RIGHT. I THINK THE CONTRAST IS GOING TO BE CAN BERNIE SANDERS ARTICULATE THE SAME PROGRESSIVE VISION WITH THE DETAILS, WITH THE MEAT. >> BERNIE SANDERS. >> AND IN ADDITION IS HE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADD ON TO THE MOMENTUM HE CREATED IN 2016? >> AND WHEN ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE? I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT THESE SWING VOTERS AND PERHAPS SOME OF THOSE TRUMP VOTERS, ARE THESE 2020 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES DOING ENOUGH TO TRY TO SPEAK TO CONSERVATIVES? >> I DON'T THINK SO. LOOK, I HAVE TO BE HONEST. I THINK DEMOCRATS ARE MOVING TOO FAR TO THE LEFSHTS AND I THINK WHAT WE SAW LAST NIGHT, I THINK WHAT WE WILL LIKELY HEAR FROM BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT IN SYNC WITH WHERE A VAST MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY IS AND I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE CHALLENGED ON THE FAR-FETCHING NOTION AND IDEAS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS STUFF PASSED, EVEN IF THE DEMOCRATS WERE TO CONTROL THE HOUSE AND SENATE MANY WITHIN THE PARTY DON'T SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE IDEAS AND I THINK BERNIE SANDERS IS GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO CONTRAST, YES, I'M THE GUY TO BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER AND REACH OUT TO THE DISAFFECTED VOTERS. >> AND THE PARTY IS AT A POINT WHERE THEY ARE TRYING TO REDEFINE THEMSELVES, NOT ONLY INTERNALLY BUT MORE TO WHAT WE'LL SEE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND WITH US. A LITTLE BIT LATER, WE'LL HAVE A LONG NIGHT. WE'LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND STAY WITH US FOR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC DEBATE RIGHT HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." >> LET'S HEAD OVER TO THE SPIN ROOM NOW WHERE THE FINAL PREPARATIONS ARE UNDER WAY BEFORE THE CANDIDATES TAKE THE STAPLING, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WHERE WE FIND NBC'S GARRETT HAYES. GARRETT, GOOD EVENING. GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A TOUR. SHOW US AROUND AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN MIAMI NOW. >> MORGAN, IN ABOUT TWO HOURS THIS WILL BE THE CENTER OF THE POLITICAL UNIVERSE IN WHICH ALL THE CAMPAIGNS AND THEIR STAFF WILL BE IN HERE TELLING US BRETT LESLEY THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WON THE DEBATE AND WHY THEY WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED SATES, BUT FOR NOW IT'S KIND OF THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM. THIS AREA WAS PACKED ALL NIGHT LAST NIGHT. IT WILL BE PACKED TO THE UNTIL ABOUT 1:00 IN THE MORNING YOU CAN SEE OUR SET IN THE BACKGROUND. ALL THE CANDIDATES DROPPING BY HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY PERFORMED, AND THEN THE CANDIDATES, THEIR STAFF AND ALL THESE REPORTERS, 700 OF US FROM AROUND THE WORLD, COVERING THE CAMPAIGN. FOR NOW THOUGH THINGS ARE QUITE, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE TONIGHT I THINK FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE, ALL THE CANDIDATES INCLUDING THOSE WHO COMPETED LAST NIGHT, PERFORMED LAST NIGHT, HAVE NOW SEEN HOW THIS PROCESS GOES, AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE COMING UP TONIGHT KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE MODERATORS ARE TREATING THE QUESTIONS AND HOW THE CANDIDATES ARE LIKELY TO TREAT EACH OTHER AND TONIGHT YOU HAVE MORE OF THE EXPERIENCED DEBATERS ON THE STAGE. JOE BIDEN AND BERNIE SANDERS HAVE BOTH DONE THE MULTI-CANDIDATE PRESIDENTIAL FORMULA BEFORE, AND EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER CANDIDATES WHO HAVE NOT KAMALA HARRIS, FOR EXAMPLE, MICHAEL BENNETT, SOME OF THESE SENATORS ARE A LITTLE MORE PRACTICED IN THIS TYPE OF DEBATING, SO I DO THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS OF THAT NEAR VOWS ENERGY THAN LAST NIGHT WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR THE MOMENT TO BREAK OUT. >> I WAS FOLLOWING YOU LAST NIGHT ON TWITTER AND SEEING YOU ON TELEVISION AND YOU HAD A MOMENT IN THIS ROOM WITH BETO. WHAT DID YOU LEARN AND WHAT WAS THE SCOOP THAT YOU GOT LAST NIGHT? >> I THINK TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, JULIAN CASTRO'S BIG MOMENT WITH BETO O'ROUKE WAS NO ACCIDENT. THAT WAS VERY MUCH A PLANNED MOMENT OF TRYING TO CONTRAST WITH ANOTHER TEXAN ON A VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE, TO PUT O'ROURKE ON HIS BACK HEEL. WHAT YOU SAW IN THAT EXCHANGE WAS A DIFFERENCE IN STYLE AND PREPARATION. O'ROURKE SAID ALL ALONG HE'S NOT MUCH OF A DEBATE-FOCUSED GUY. HE'S A STORYTELLER AND WANTS TO TELL THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE HE'S MET AROUND THE COUNTRY AND JULIAN CASTRO WANTED TO MAKE A VERY SPECIFIC POINT ABOUT POLICY AND WANTED TO MAKE IT AT BETO O'ROUKE'S EXPENSE. TEXAS IS A BIG STATE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ROOM ENOUGH IN THIS RACE FOR TWO UP-AND-COMERS FROM THE LONE STAR STATE. THEY COMPETE FOR DONORS AND VOTERS AND ATTENTION. AND THEY WILL COMPETE AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT. CASTRO WILL BE IN AUSTIN AND O'ROURKE'S CAMPAIGN ADDED AN EVENT IN AUSTIN THIS AFTERNOON. >> INTERESTING. >> I ALSO SAW THAT FORMER CHAIRMAN MICHAEL STEELE IS SAYING JULIO IS TRYING TO PUNCH SIDEWAYS AND YOU MENTIONED THE STYLE AND THE PREPARATION. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE STRATEGY? HOW DO YOU THINK THE STRATEGY WILL BE DIFFERENT TONIGHT? >> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH I THINK THE TWO FRONT-RUNNERS IN THE CENTER OF THE STAGE HAVE SIMILAR STRATEGIES. THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEMSELVES, THEIR RECORD AND VISION FOR THE FUTURE AND A LOT LESS THAN DONALD TRUMP. EVERYONE ELSE ON THAT STAGE MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF OBJECTIVES. I'M TALK ABOUT THE TWO COLORADOANS HERE, JOHN HICKENLOOPER AND MICHAEL BENNETT. I CAN SEE THEM HAVING THEIR EYES ON BERNIE SANDERS. THEY HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT VISION FOR WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE ALL ABOUT. DO THEY WANT TO MIX IT UP ON SOMEBODY THEY DESAGREE WITH ON SOME OF THESE BIG QUESTIONS, THIS ISSUE. THIS DEBATE TONIGHT HAS TWO OF THE MOST INTERESTING CANDIDATES. TWO UNIQUE CANDIDATES ON THE DEBATE STAGE AT THE SAME TIME, ANDREW YANG AND MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, BOTH OF WHOM HAVE BIG FOLLOWS ONLINE AND PLATFORMS THAT I THINK ARE SAY TO SAY OUTSIDE THE DEMOCRATIC MAINSTREAM AND THEY HAVE ELBOWED THEIR WAY ON THE DEBATE STABLE AND BOTH OF THEM ARE PRETTY WELL PRIMED TO BRING THEIR MESSAGE TO THE MASSES, PARTICULARLY YANG WHO HAS SUCH A BIG ARM LINE FOLLOWING. ANY DROP COULD BE HAVE -- A LOT OF THE WAYS THAT BERNIE SANDERS DID BACK IN 2016. >> I HAVE TO SAY I ALWAYS ENJOY LEARNING FROM YOU. I LEARN AS MUCH FROM YOUR REPORTING AS I DO FROM YOUR ANALYSIS AND THANKS FOR BEING ON THE GROUND FOR US TONIGHT. STAY WITH US. WE'LL BE BACK IN A MOMENT WITH MORE SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE RIGHT HERE ON NBC. >> LAST NIGHT U.S. IMMIGRATION POLICY DOMINATED THE DEBATE STAGE, BUT TONIGHT WE EXPECT TO HEAR MUCH MORE ON FOREIGN POLICY, ESPECIALLY AS THE SENATE PREPARES TO TAKE UP A BILL ON WHETHER CONGRESS SHOULD APPROVE A STRIKE ON IRAN. HERE TO DIVE INTO THE FOREIGN POLICY PLATFORM TONIGHT WE HAVE OUR GUESTS BACK WITH US ALONG WITH THE FORMER SPOKESPERSON FOR THE U.S. MISSION TO THE U.N. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. SO LET'S JUMP IN. SATURDAY WE EXPECT TO SEE THE MEETING BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PRESIDENT XI OF CHINA, CAN THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES PROVE THAT THEY ARE STILL TOUGH ON CHINA AND ALSO PROVE THAT THEY ARE NOT DIRECTLY ALIGNED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY SILENT ON FOREIGN POLICY IN GENERAL. THEY HAVEN'T GONE TO PUT OUT A LOT OF FOREIGN POLICY, AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES STRONGLY FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP. I MEAN, I THINK THEY WISH THEY COULD, BUT CERTAINLY WHEN IT COMES TO CHINA A LOT OF THEM FEEL THAT THE UNITED STATES SHOULD BE TOUGH ON CHINA. I THINK THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY GO ABOUT IT A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT THEY ARE NOT GIVING US DETAILS ON HOW -- ON WHAT THEIR PLANS WOULD BE, HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO WHEN IT COMES TO CHINA SPECIFICALLY. HOW THEY WOULD GO IN A TOUGHER MANNER, AND I THINK THAT GOES ACROSS THE BOARD WHETHER IT'S IRAN AND RUSSIA IN GENERAL. >> SO WE'RE MISSING THE TACTICS. >> YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD. >> THAT'S TRUE. >> THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON FOREIGN POLICY. >> THIS EARLY IN THE PRIMACY VOTERS AREN'T FOCUSING IN. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES LIKE IRAN, IF YOU'RE WAKING UP IN THE MORNING AND YOU'RE SEEING THAT PUSH NOTIFICATION THAT SAYS WE WERE GOING TO BOMB THEM AND CHANGED OUR MINDS AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT CAN BE REAL CONCERNING AND I DO WANT TO HEAR DEMOCRATS BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOT JUST PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RHETORIC BUT HIS ACTUAL ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY BECAUSE THOSE TWO THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. >> WE'VE HEARD SOME SPECIFICS THOUGH. JOE BIDEN SAID THAT CHINA WAS NOT DIRECT COMPETITION AND THEN WE SAW BERNIE SANDERS SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, UNTRUE. IT'S ABSOLUTELY AN ECONOMIC COMPETITION. WHICH OF THOSE MESSAGES DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN OUT AND PLAY BEST WITH VOTERS TONIGHT? >> I THINK FOR THE DEMOCRATS IF THEY FOCUS ON INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, THAT'S A BIG THING THAT I THINK YOU CAN DISTINGUISH YOURSELF FROM THE PRESIDENT. YOU ALSO LOOK AT CHINA AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND ESSENTIALLY IN OUR OWN BACKYARD IN SOUTH AMERICA, GIVING OUT ZERO FREE INTEREST LOANS, LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN SOUTH AFRICA. THERE ARE VERY NUANCED WAYS TO SORT OF MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND AS IT RELATES TO IRAN STABILITY. DON'T TRUMP FOR ME, VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK I'LL BRING STABILITY. >> THAT'S WHAT THEY COULD SAY BUT THEY ARE NOT. >> RIGHT. >> ON CHINA, THIS WOULD BE AN EASY ONE TO SAY THAT CHINA, BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS THAT WE'RE IMPOSING, THAT ARE HURTING AMERICAN COMPANIES AND AMERICAN CONSUMERS, THE CHINESE ARE GOING AROUND AND DOING BUSINESS WITH EVERYONE ELSE. WE SHOULD HAVE ALLIES AROUND THE WORLD SAYING LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO CONFRONT CHINA SO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES COULD SAY THAT, BUT THEY ARE NOT SAYING, THAT AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. >> IT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING TO SEE HOW LIGHT EVERYONE WAS ON FOREIGN POLICY. >> RIGHT. >> BUT DO YOU THINK WHEN WE BRING IT BACK HOME TO DOMESTIC ISSUES THAT WILL CHANGE THINGS? FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW ROBERT MUELLER JUST DECIDED HE WAS IN FACT GOING TO TESTIFY. DO YOU THINK THAT WILL CHANGE THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE MUELLER REPORT OR EVEN RUSSIA'S ROLE IN THE 2016 ELECTION? >> AND IT SHOULD CHANGE THE CONVERSATION, I'M SURPRISED THAT RUSSIA DIDN'T COME UP. BILL de BLASIO WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO MENTIONED RUSSIA, AND WE IMMEDIATE TO BE TALKING ABOUT RUSSIA. THEY ARE STILL BOT ARMIES TRYING TO INFILTRATE OUR ELECTIONS AND STILL DOING THE SAME THINGS THEY ARE DOING IN 2016. NEED TO BE VERY VIGILANT AND PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T BELIEVE THEY REALLY DID IT SO HE HASN'T PUT FORWARD ANY POLICY. THAT'S AN OPENING THAT WOULD TIE TOGETHER DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN POLICY BY SAYING THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TO ENSURE THAT OUR ELECTION SYSTEMS ARE PROTECTED. >> I THINK DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE IMPEACHMENT NOTION AND I'M TELL YOU WHY, OF THE 61 SEATS THAT THEY WON IN 2018, 42, 43 WERE FROM REPUBLICAN PREVIOUSLY HELD DISTRICTS, DISTRICTS THAT DONALD TRUMP WON. "THE WASHINGTON POST" A MONTH AGO DID A GREAT PROFILE PIECE ON SOME OF THOSE MEMBERS AND WHAT THEY SAID IS MOST CONSTITUENTS IN THEIR DISTRICTS ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING TRUMP. THEY DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR THAT WHICH IS WHY I THINK NANCY PELOSI HAS BEEN VERY, VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO RISK LOSING HER MAJORITY SO I THINK IT'S GREAT TO SAY THAT FOR THE BASE OF THE PARTY, BUT THEY NEED TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER AREAS THAT THEY WON IN 2018 THAT I WOULD ARGUE THAT THEY NEED IN 2020 IF THEY PLAN TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PUSH RIGHT NOW FOR THE MAJORITY OF THEM, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY EVEN THE ONES IN CONGRESS IS FOR IMPEACHMENT. THERE ARE 80 OR SO DEMOCRATS ON THE RECORD SAYING THEY ARE CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT. THE NUMBER IS GOING UP, BUT THAT'S LESS THAN HALF THE CAUCUS. THAT'S NOT THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE CONVERSATION, THE LOUDEST VOICES ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL. WHAT I DO THINK IN THE SHORT TERM IS THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS BRING THE MUELLER REPORT TO LIFE AND BRING IN THE WITNESSES. NOW THAT WE HAVE ROBERT MUELLER COMING IN. WHO ELSE CAN WE BRING IN TO ACTUALLY PULL THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THE PAGES THAT AMERICANS HAVE NOT READ AND INTERNALIZE AND HOW CAN WE BRING THAT TO LIGHT AND ALMOST ACT IT OUT FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE WAS TAKING PLACE IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> WHERE IS THIS GOING? WHERE DOES THIS GO? >> WHERE DOES THIS GO? >> IT'S GOING TO FAIL IN THE SENATE WE KNOW THAT AUTOMATICALLY. MITCH McCONNELL IS NOT GOING TO AGREE TO THIS. >> I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT. >> SO WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? >> BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT THEIR PRESIDENT IS DOING WHILE HE'S IN THE WHITE HOUSE. A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT -- >> IS THIS THE WAY TO EDUCATED THEM? THAT'S CONGRESS' ROLE. OVERSIGHT OVER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND INFORM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO NEED TO KNOW ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE MUELLER REPORT SO THEY CAN MAKE EDUCATED VOTES. >> AND GUESS WHAT I WOULD DO. >> IT'S NOT UP TO YOU. >> IT WOULD WOULD GOT BE UP TO MITCH McCONNELL BUT UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> REPUBLICANS ONLY NEED 21 OF THOSE SEATS TO TAKE BACK THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE. IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION DEMOCRATS WANT TO GO, I WOULD TARGET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DEMOCRATS WHO FLIPPED THOSE REPUBLICAN SEATS. >> WHAT DIRECTION ARE YOU SPECIFYING? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT -- >> AND NANCY PELOSI WILL LOSE HER MAJORITY. >> I'M NOT SAYING DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING ON IMPEACHMENT. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. >> YOU ARE SAYING IT'S IMPORTANT. >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS UNDERSTANDING THE CONTENT OF THE MUELLER REPORT IS IMPORTANT. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT IS AN AUTOMATIC TWO-STEP DO IT AND IT HAPPENS OVERNIGHT. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS COUNTRY WORKS. NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER BEEN REMOVED IN THAT MANNER SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW IS USING THE CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE MUELLER REPORT BECAUSE -- >> GET OVER IT. THERE WERE NOT CRIMES ENUMERATED IN THAT REPORT. >> CRIMES, TEN OF THEM. >> I AGREE WITH YOU AS FAR AS ETHICS AND AS FAR AS THE PRESIDENT DOING THINGS BUT WHAT I'M SAYING -- >> IF A DEMOCRAT HAD DONE THE SAME THING. >> I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU, BUT AS A STRATEGIST I'M TELLING YOU IF DEMOCRATS WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, THERE'S EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN AT THE RNC AND THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN RESEARCH COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO FOCUS ON THOSE MEMBERS AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE SURE PELOSI LOSES THAT MAJORITY. THAT'S -- THAT'S -- >> REPUBLICANS DO THAT EVERY DAY. >> MY VIEW IS MORE FROM THE FOREIGN POLICY ANGLE. YOU STARTED ASKING ROBERT MUELLER, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT OUR CONVERSATION. I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE, I MEAN, TO NO ONE'S SURPRISE I'M GOING TO SAY I THINK FOREIGN POLICY IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT BUT FOR THE VOTER IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND HEALTHCARE, AND THAT BEING SAID, FOREIGN POLICY CERTAINLY NOW IS REALLY CRITICAL BECAUSE IT ENTERED OUR ELECTIONS IN 2016 AND HAD A DIRECT IMPACT ON THE VOTER. VOTERS SHOULD CARE. THEY MAY NOT KNOW THEY SHOULD CARE AT THE MOMENT AND THAT'S WHY EDUCATING THEN IS SO CRITICAL. ON IMPEACHMENT, THIS IS A SEPARATE STORY. MY VIEW IS THAT IT'S A DISTRACTION AND THAT'S MY OWN OPINION. >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WANT THERE TO BE SERIOUS AND FORMAL HEARINGS BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN. >> BUT PEOPLE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IT. >> ARE YOU KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE? IS THAT HOW YOU EDUCATE THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF THE MUELLER REPORT? >> YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO LOUDER -- THE LOUDSPEAKER THAT THE CANDIDATES HAVE RIGHT NOW IS MUCH LARGER THAN ANY HEARING, THAN ANY NEWSPAPER ARTICLE. THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THEIR FOLLOWS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL THEIR RALLIES TODAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING. CHINA COULD BE DOING THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. I'M GOING TO PUT, FOR EXAMPLE, MORE MONEY AND RESEARCH INTO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WHEN I BECOME PRESIDENT TO COMBAT THAT AND BEEF UP CYBER SECURITY AND ENSURE THAT FACEBOOK AND GOOGLE WORK WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT DISINFORMATION ISN'T RAMPANT. >> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST UNCLEAR. >> RIGHT. >> WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> DEMOCRATS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. >> HOW LONG DID WATERGATE TAKE FROM THE BREAK-IN UNTIL RICHARD NIXON RESIGNING? >> IT TAKES A LONG TIME. >> A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW THAT'S HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE IF YOU OPEN UP IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS. DONALD TRUMP WILL ALREADY BE RE-ELECTED. >> HERE'S THE THING. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE MIDNIGHT. SO I -- I'M NOT SITTING HERE AND SAYING THAT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2020 BASED ON THE STRATEGY. WHAT I'M SAYING AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT HAD ELECTIONS ATTACKED AND EVEN MY OWN PERSONAL EMAIL HACKED BECAUSE I WAS ON THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT. >> I AGREE. >> AND IN THE REPORT ROBERT MUELLER FOUND CRIME. >> TONIGHT IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, AND WE COULD DO THIS ALL NIGHT AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL CARE AS MUCH ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY ON THE DEBATE FLOOR. STAY WITH US. >> OUR VERY OWN DR. SEBASTIAN BURNS WITH US TONIGHT. WATCHING THE DEBATE LIVE FROM DOWNTOWN NEW YORK WITH A FEW COLLEGE STUDENTS FROM ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WHAT IS ON EVERYONE'S MIND HEADING NOW INTO NIGHT TWO? >> HEY, MORGAN, I'VE GOT BRILLIANT STUDENTS HERE FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENTS AND FOR A COUPLE OF FOLKS HERE THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THEIR FIRST TIME VOTING IN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, SO THEY ARE WATCHING REALLY CLOSELY. GUYS, LET'S START WITH THE FRONT-RUNNER, JOE BIDEN. OKAY. SHOW OF HANDS. WHO IS SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BIDEN? WOW, NOBODY. OKAY. WANT TO TALK TO ME ABOUT WHY, WHY IS HE NOT LIGHTING A FIRE IN THIS ROOM? >> PERSONALLY I FEEL LIKE AS IT RELATES TO JOE BIDEN HIM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IS REALLY JUST SOMETHING TO CHECK OFF A LIST. LIKE MONDAY I HAD SOMETHINGITY, TUESDAY I WAS VICE PRESIDENT AND NOW WEDNESDAY I WANT TO BE PRESIDENT. HE'S REALLY IN MY OPINION A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE LIKE IT'S RIGHT FOR HIM AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE OTHER CANDIDATES HOLD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE ESPECIALLY HIS CONTROVERSIAL PAST REFORMING THE PRISON SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW. >> WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE WATCHING TO SEE BIDEN KIND OF DEFINE HIS POLICIES BECAUSE HE'S FLIP-FLOPPED SO LONG IN HIS LONG POLITICAL CAREER. I THINK WE'RE ALL LOOKING TO DELIVER A SOLID MESSAGE AND SAY SOMETHING THAT HE BELIEVES IN IT GENUINELY AND NOT JUST DOING IT FOR THE POLITICAL ASPECT OF IT. >> WE'VE HEARD THAT VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN DOESN'T VIEW CHINA AS AN ECONOMIC THREAT AND WHEN YOU GO TO A PLACE LIKE PITTSBURGH, THE U.S. STEEL PLANT HAS A 1.5 BILLION INVESTMENT AND HOW IS BIDEN GOING TO GO TO THAT PART OF AMERICA AND SAY I'M THE BETTER CANDIDATE FOR THE WORKING CLASS AND DISTINGUISH HIMSELF FROM THE PRESIDENT. >> SOUNDS LIKE HE'S NOT REALLY RESONATING BOTH WITH POLICY AND WITH MESSAGING. I MEAN, ONE OF THE REASONS SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE EXCITED ABOUT HIM, ARE MORE EXCITED ABOUT HIM IS BECAUSE OF THE LONG TRACK RECORD HE HAS AND THE KIND OF EXPERIENCE THAT HE HAS. SOMEONE WHO IS ALSO A FRONT-RUNNER ON THE STABLE WHO HAS THE LEAST GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE IS PUT BUTTIGIEG. THINKING ABOUT THOSE TWO, THERE'S ABOUT A 40-YEAR AGE GAP BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM AND THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT EXPERIENCE AND PERSPECTIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCES THERE. WHAT'S RESONATING MORE WITH YOU GUYS? A LOT OF YOU MORE WERE EXCITED ABOUT BUTTIGIEG. WHY IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GETS YOU GOING? >> WELL, I MEAN, YEAH. NOT ONLY BECAUSE HE'S YOUNG BUT BECAUSE HE'S BRING IDEAS. THE REASON WHY I THINK BIDEN HAS A BIG TEST, HE'S NOT BRING NEW AND EXCITING INNOVATIVE IDEAS. YES, HE'S YOUNG BUT HE'S GOING TO BRING NEW IDEAS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. WE WANT TO SEE TAX REFORM AND REFORM OF THE PRISON SYSTEM AND WITH BIDEN THE CONVERSATION HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT REFORM, KEEPING THINGS HOW THEY ARE AND JUST TWEAKING THEM A LITTLE BIT AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF TWEAK. THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR FUTURE SO FOR US IT'S REALLY KEY TO FIND CANDIDATES WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT INNOVATION AND HOW THEY WILL HAVE AN EFFECT IN THREE YEARS AND TWO YEARS WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY EFFECTED AND WE'LL SEAT RIPPLE EFFECT. >> AND THERE'S THE PERSPECTIVE GAP BETWEEN BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN AND BERNIE SANDERS AND JOE BIDEN ARE NOT THAT DIFFERENT IN AGE AND YOU SEEM TO VIEW HIM PRETTY DIFFERENTLY. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS AND WHY HE'S RESONATING IN A WAY THAT MAYBE BIDEN ISN'T. >> BERNIE SANDERS IS HIGH ENERGY AND USES SOCIAL MEDIA WELL AND REACHES OUT TO YOUNGER VOTER BASES REALLY WELL. JUST SOMEONE I THINK NO MATTER WHAT AGE YOU ARE YOU CAN KIND OF CONNECT WITH HIM AND SEE ALL THE WORK HE'S DONE HIS WHOLE LIFE. HE'S SOMEONE WHO HAS PUSHED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED AND HE'S KIND OF AT THIS POINT NOW WHERE, YEAH, HE'S OLD BUT HE CERTAINLY DOESN'T ACT OLD EVEN THOUGH HE'S BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH. >> I FEEL LIKE WITH BERNIE WE SEE A CONSISTENT PASSION AND A REALLY CONSISTENT MESSAGE AND A CONSISTENT POINT OF VIEW FROM WHERE HE'S COMING AND HIS IDOL. >>> EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH IT, YOU CAN RESPECT THE WAY HE'S BEEN EXPRESSING IT FOR A LONG TIME WHEREAS WITH BIDEN WE SEE LESS OF A GENUINE PASSION COMING FROM HIM. >> CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS TERM DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM AND HOW IS THAT PLAYING AMONGST YOU AND YOUR PEERS? >> WELL, I THINK THE TERM ITSELF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM, IT HAS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL TERM ALREADY IN IT, SOCIALISM, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EVEN HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS AS IT RELATES TO CANDIDATES LIKE BERNIE SANDERS. IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW HE TRIES TOSS PUSH THAT MORE INTO A POSITION WHERE BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS CAN KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND AGREE ON THE ISSUES THAT THEY WANT TO REFORM AS WELL AS OTHER CANDIDATES SUCH AS AN ELIZABETH WARREN THAT'S ALREADY KIND OF STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE. THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER FOR THOSE THAT ARE MODERATES OR INDEPENDENTS TO KIND OF JOIN ON TO HER OWN BANDWAGON. >> IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE LABELING THEMSELVES AS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY ARE AGAINST WHAT CAPITALISM IS. THEY ARE TAKING THE MOST EGREGIOUS ASPECTS OF CAPITALISM, THE MASSIVE INEQUALITY AND A SHRINKING MIDDLE CLASS AND THEY ARE TAKING THAT AND SAYING WE CAN FIX THIS AND WE CAN FIX THIS UNDER CAPITALISM WITH WHAT COULD BE SOCIALIST POLICIES. >> THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A TURNOFF, BUT YOU WANT TO SEE HOW THEY ACTUALLY DEFINE THAT AND HOW IT PLAYS TONIGHT. WELL, WE'LL BE SEEING HOW THAT TERM IS THROWN AROUND AND WHAT THESE CANDIDATES ARE PUTTING ON THE TABLE. MORGAN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOUR STUDENT PANELISTS. WE HOPE THAT YOU STICK AROUND WITH US HERE. FOR ALL OF THOSE WATCHING OUT THERE, STAY TUNED BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO DIVE INTO RIGHT BEFORE NIGHT TWO OF THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATES BEGIN. >>> HEALTHCARE WAS ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES IN LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE SPARKING SOME HEATED MOMENTS FROM NEARLY EVERY SINGLE CANDIDATE ON STAGE, BUT PERHAPS MOST NOTABLY THEY FOUGHT OVER THE ROLE THAT PRIVATE INSURANCE SHOULD PLAY IN INDIVIDUAL HEALTHCARE PLANS. ELIZABETH WARREN DECLARED THAT SHE WAS WITH BERNIE SANDERS IN SUPPORTING MEDICARE FOR ALL AND THEN TONIGHT THE SENATOR FROM VERMONT IS GOING TO BE TAKING CENTER STAGE WITH HIS POLICY PLATFORM. OUR GUESTS ARE BACK WITH ME NOW, AND I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SENSE OF HEALTHCARE AND WHERE WE ARE. WE SAW THAT WARREN AND DeBLASIO WERE AGAINST KEEPING THE PRIVATE OPTION AND O'ROURKE AND KLOBUCHAR WANT TO KEEP IT. WHERE DO YOU THINK THE CANDIDATES ON NIGHT TWO WILL FALL? >> I REALLY DO THINK THIS WILL BE -- I THINK IT WILL ILLUSTRATE HOW DESPERATE JOE BIDEN AND BERNIE SANDERS ARE. YOU HAVE BERNIE ON ONE SIDE OF THE SPEC TRURNLGS RIGHT, WHO IS ANTI-INCREMENTALISM AND WANTS TO IMPLEMENT MEDICARE FOR ALL AND WANTS TO ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE, AND THEN YOU HAVE JOE BIDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, WHO WANTS, YOU KNOW, OBAMACARE IS ONE OF HIS BIGGEST LEGACIES. HE WANTS TO BUILD ON OBAMACARE. HE WANTS TO GIVE PEOPLE THE PUBLIC OPTION AND I THINK THAT REALLY CAPTURES HIS INCREMENTALIST APPROACH AND THAT HERE I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THESE KIDS THAT WERE AGAINST THIS SORT OF SLOW BOIL AND ARE IN FAVOR OF MORE DRAMATIC POLICIES THAT CAN EFFECT CHANGE TOMORROW. >> YOU'RE CHUCKLING, WHY? >> BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALISTIC. I RESPECT THE KIDS AND I GET IT, BUT I'VE WORKED IN POLITICS FOR A WHILE NOW. I'VE BEEN IN D.C. FOR A WHILE NOW. THAT'S JUST NOT HOW THINGS WORK, AND I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES FOR SOMEONE LIKE AN AOC SHE'S FOUND OUT FAST THAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL, JUST HOW D.C. WORKS. HAVE YOU TO WORK IN REALITY AND YOU HAVE TO GET OTHER MEMBERS AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN PARTY TO WORK WITH YOU TO PASS SOME OF THESE PIECES OF LEGISLATION. IT'S NOT ABOUT INCREMENTALISM. >> JOHN DELANEY HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION TODAY AND WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THIS TOPIC AND SOME OF THE BIGGEST, RICH ET COUNTRIES, MOST DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD HAVE TRANSITIONED VERY EASILY OVERNIGHT TO -- ELIMINATED PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE AND HAVE CONSISTENT RATES. >> CANADA, THE NHS IN ENGLAND. >> BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME POLITICAL SYSTEM OR SETUP THAT WE DO, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PARTISANSHIP THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. >> WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT A REALISTIC OPTION? >> I REALLY CANNOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND HOW IT'S FUNDED AND WHEN YOU ASK, WHEN CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN ASKED, KAMALA HARRIS HAVE BEEN ASKED, THEY FUMBLE OVER THEIR WORDS, WELL, WE'LL INCREASE TAXES AND INCREASE ON THE 1% AND WE'LL INCREASE THE ESTATE TAXES. NONE OF THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE AND NONE OF IT TO ME SEEMS VERY FEASIBLE FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED BECAUSE WASHINGTON DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT AND I THINK IT SOUNDS ATTRACTIVE TO A YOUNG VOTE. >> BUT WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, AND I DON'T SEE HOW IT COULD WORK. >> IN THE SPAN OF FOUR YEARS THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS CONVERSATION DRAMATICALLY CHANGE, THIS REALLY WASN'T A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY UNTIL BERNIE SANDERS HIT THE BIG STAGE AND NOW YOU SEE AOC DOING THE EXACT SAME THING. IN LESS THAN A YEAR SHE'S REVOLUTIONIZED THE CONVERSATION AROUND CLIMATE CHANGE. >> AND EVERYTHING SHE'S ATTEMPTED TO DO HAS FAILED. EVERY SINGLE THING SHE HAS PROPOSED. WHAT I'M SAYING THE REALITY IS YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS OF HOW YOU GET THESE THINGS DONE. HOW DO YOU ACPLASH THIS? IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT AND TO HAVE SHE IS SWEEPING NOTIONS THAT I'M GOING TO GET IN AN ELECTION ON DAY ONE AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. IT'S NOT REAL. >> BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS PRIMARY IS SO FASCINATING, RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE IS THIS SCHISM THIS YEAR, AND I THINK IT'S A BIG GENERATIONAL GAP, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO WANT STRUCTURE AND IDEOLOGICAL CHANGE THAT PEOPLE THINK TRUMP IS AN ABERRATION AND THE OUTGROWTH OF A LOT OF SYSTEMIC INEQUALITIES YEAHTATING TOWARDS CANDIDATES LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN AND BERNIE SANDERS RATHER THAN JOE BIDEN THINKING THAT TRUMP IS A ONE-OFF AND ONCE HE GETS INTO OFFICE IT'S BUSINESS AS SGLUSHL WHAT ABOUT THE COMPETITION BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES? EARLIER ON WE HEARD SENATOR WARREN SAY I SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS' PLAN. I BELIEVE IN EVERYONE HAVING THIS. DO YOU THINK SHE'S TRYING TO TRY TO CREEP INTO HIS BASE AND PULL SOME OF THOSE VOTERS FOR HERSELF? >> LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS SHE'S ALREADY DOING, IT RIGHT. I SAW NINA TURNER ON EARLIER TODAY AND SHE'S MAKE THE CASE FOR BERNIE SANDERS, AND SHE WAS ESSENTIALLY SAYING HE'S THE ORIGINAL. WE'RE NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN BECAUSE BERNIE IS THE ORIGINAL. WELL, THE REALITY IS ELIZABETH WARREN HAS BEEN ADDED TO ADD A LOT OF SUBSTANCE WHO WHAT BERNIE SANDERS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT TO THE CONVERSATION BACK IN 2016. >> THE CANDIDATES NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN NOT OVERPROMISING AND SAYING THINGS THAT -- THAT THEY ASSUME THE VOTER WANTS TO HEAR. MAYBE THEY KNOW THE VOTER WANTS TO HEAR IT BUT YOU CAN'T GO AROUND MAKING FALSE PROMISES AND THAT'S WHERE YOU END UP BEING THE TRUMPET LEFT. >> ALL OF ELIZABETH WARREN'S PROGRAMS AND POLICIES PUT TOGETHER ARE PRETTY BALANCED. "THE WASHINGTON POST" HAS A GREAT PIECE BY JEFF STEIN THAT SHOWED THAT IT ALL EVENED OUT TO ZERO THE WAY THAT ALL OF HER POLICIES AND TAXES OFFSET EACH OTHER AND THAT'S SOMETHING BERNIE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO ARTICULATE. >> STAYING ON THE TOPIC OF HEALTHCARE, WHAT ABOUT WOMEN'S RIGHTS BECAUSE WE HEARD THIS ROUND OF APPLAUSE YESTERDAY WHEN JULIAN CASTRO WAS TALKING ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE. WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOPIC OF ABORTION WHICH, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN DEBATED HEAVILY OF LATE, IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND ON THIS ISSUE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THESE CANDIDATES CAN SAY TO PERHAPS GET THE SWING STATE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD VOTERS ? >> THE MIDDLE INVOLVEMENT I THOUGHT ELIZABETH WARREN -- THIS IS NOT MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. I'M JUST SAYING I THOUGHT SHE DID A GREAT JOB IN SETTING HERSELF APART BY SAYING THAT THE COURTS HAD AJEWETT KATED ON IT, AND THAT IT WAS LEGISLATION TO PREVENT STATES GOING RIGHT UP OR EVEN PUSHING THAT LIMIT, RIGHT, SO I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SMART AND PUTTING SOMETHING NEW FORWARD BUT WHERE TO GET THE MIDDLE OF THE GROUND? THAT'S PRACTICAL I THINK HAVING SOMETHING LEGAL WHERE THERE'S LESS INTERPRETATION. >> IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND IN THIS? >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS. I THINK YOU'RE EITHER ON THE LEFT OF THIS OR YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT. I DON'T THINK YOU'LL FIND EVEN AMONGST VOTERS CENTRISTS ON THE IDEA OF ABORTION, PRO WOMEN RIGHTS OR AGAINST IT. >> RIGHT. LET'S SEE WHAT THE STUDENTS HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE COLLEGE STUDENTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THEIR OWN HEALTHCARE PLAN. >> I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR PANEL OF STUDENTS THERE TONIGHT. I WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING THAT I HEARD THEM SAY IN THE LAST SEGMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING THAT THE STUDENTS TALKED ABOUT CAME DOWN TO AUTHENTICITY. THIS IS A QUICK LIGHTNING ROUND. WHICH CANDIDATE DOES EACH STUDENT BLEACH IS MOTOR AUTHENTIC? >> YEAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK, GUYS? WHO HAS MADE THE MOST AUTHENTIC PITCH TO YOU? >> PETE BUTTIGIEG. >> PETE BUTTIGIEG. >> BERNIE SANDERS. >> PETE BUTTIGIEG. >> I THINK BERNIE SANDERS IS THE MOST AUTHENTIC. >> BERNIE SANDERS. >> INTERESTING. >> SO THINKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT, I MEAN, LAST NIGHT BASICALLY ALL OF YOU SAID CASTRO SORT OF STOLE THE SPOTLIGHT. WHAT -- WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE TONIGHT THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE LAST NIGHT? WHO DO YOU WANT TO SEE SHINE? WHAT TOPIC DO YOU THINK DIDN'T GET ENOUGH COVER? >> DEFINITELY I FEEL LIKE THE CANDIDATES BARELY TOUCHED ON THE ISSUE OF REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND HEARD A LOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BUT AS WOMEN WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LAWS PASSED RECENTLY, VERY HARSHLY LIMITING WOMEN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN JUST PROTECTING OR GOING AGAINST THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND WHAT DOES IT REALLY MEAN TO MAYBE BE ANTI-ABORTION BUT PRO CHOICE. >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT BECAUSE THIS IS AN HISTORIC NUMBER OF WOMEN THAT WE HAVE IN THIS ELECTION AND ON THAT DEBATE STAGE, HOW DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE CONVERSATION AROUND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS TONIGHT? >> I THINK IT'S OPENING UP AGAIN A UNIQUE CONVERSATION AS TO THE RIGHTS THAT WOMEN MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE OVER THEIR BODIES VERSUS HOW ONE IDENTIFIES WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND HOW ONE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME TO A MIDDLE GROUND AS IT RELATES TO THAT. IT'S ALSO OPENING UP ANOTHER CONVERSATION AS TO THE ROLE THAT MEN PLAY WITHIN THIS CONVERSATION. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT DIRECTLY AFFECTS WOMEN, WE ALL KNOW THAT WOMEN ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE VOTING ON THESE LAWS, SO IT THEN ALSO BRINGS INTO THE CONVERSATION AS TO THE POWERS THAT MEN ARE GOING TO PLAY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONVERSATION OF REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. >> ONE THING THAT I ALSO LOVE TO TALK ABOUT AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ENOUGH, WE'VE DISCUSSED SORT OF THE APPEAL OF BEAUTE YEG, YOUNG AND INNOVATIVE AND BLOW IT ALL UP AND THINK OF SOMETHING NEW APPROACH. WHAT ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP? DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY APPEAL TO THAT TONIGHT AND TRY TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE A LITTLE BIT, OR IS THAT NOT THE TIME FOR IT RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY TIME. WEST VIRGINIA WHERE I COME FROM USED TO BE A RELIABLY DEMOCRATIC STATE AND POLICIES NOW, WE WENT 68% FOR TRUMP IN 2016. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR CANDIDATES TO ARTICULATE. HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GO IN AND REACH OUT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING IN HOW THEY TALK ABOUT BRIDGING THAT GAP AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG COMES FROM SOUTH BEND, ENINDIANA, A DYING CITY WHEN HE CAME TO IT AND NOW WILL HE BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO THE ENTIRE MIDWEST. >> HARD TO DEAL WITH WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH -- THAT'S WHY I THINK BIPARTISANSHIP IS GOING TO BE SO BARN BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO PASS LEGISLATION. LIKE YOU CAN BE VERY RETRO -- I THINK. >> DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT ENOUGH ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL SO FAR? >> IT'S ACTUALLY INTERESTING ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT YOU JUST SAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF LIBERALS HAVE A PERSPECTIVE THAT AS WELL AS CONSERVATIVES THAT THERE ARE ISSUES. LET'S TAKE ABORTION, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH A MIDDLE GROUND. SOME ISSUE THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT THERE'S NOTHING TO COME TOGETHER ON. YOU EITHER ARE OR YOU AREN'T. AS WE TALKED ABOUT, AGAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, BERNIE SANDERS AND THE TOPIC, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT A DEMOCRATIC GLOBALISM. HOW WAS HE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO ARE A BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE OR INDEPENDENT. THERE'S ALSO CONVERSATIONS ON HOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS BECOMING MORE QUOTE, UNQUOTE RADICAL AS WELL SO WITH THAT CONVERSATION THERE ARE A LOT OF TOPICS THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT, NO, THERE IS NO REASON TO WIN THE MIDDLE. I WANT MY WAY OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO THE HEAR IT AT ALL. >> IN THAT REGARD I'M ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG BECAUSE THEY KIND OF SERVE AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS AND THESE KIND OF MORE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND YOU HEAR ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN HIS CONSTITUENCY THAT DISAGREE WITH HIM AND HE'S ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AND SERVE IN THEIR INTEREST. >> THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING, TOO, GUYS. YOU DON'T WANT JUST THE APPEAL TO THE LEFT AND FAR LEFT. YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE KIND OF CHANGE THE DISCOURSE AND OPEN UP A LITTLE BIT. >> AND I FEEL LIKE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO DONALD TRUMP AND SOME THINK THAT THE LEFT HAS GONE TOO LEFT, THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO SOCIALISM AND THEY AREN'T IN SUPPORT OF THE RHETORIC THAT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SO PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN THE TWO. >> I KEEP HEARING FROM YOUNGER DEMOGRAPHICS THAT THEY ARE TIRED OF THE FIST FIGHTS AND THEY JUST WANT SOME PEOPLE WHO CAN GET THINGS DONE, ESPECIALLY IN A BIPARTISAN WAY, SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THE CANDIDATES HAVE TO SAY NOT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOUR PANELISTS. IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE LISTENING TO THEM. LET'S BRING BACK IN OUR GUESTS HERE IN THE STUDIO. JACKIE, WHO DO YOU THINK STANDS THE MOST TO LOSE TONIGHT? >> JOE BIDEN. HE'S -- HE'S NOT DOING SPIN ROOM TONIGHT AND VISIT THE CHILD CARE FACILITY 20 MILES AWAY. I KNOW HIS TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING FOR WEEKS, BUT HE ALSO HAS A LOT THAT I THINK -- THAT HE NEEDS TO EXPLAIN AND MAYBE EXPRESS SOME REGRET FOR AND THOSE CONTRASTS WILL STAND OUT. YOU HAD HOT WATER, TOO, THIS WEEKEND. >> THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE CONTESTS. I'M NOT SURE. >> I THINK THERE'S A CONTRAST WITH PETE AND JOE BIDEN ON ISSUES OF RACE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE KAMALA CONTRAST BETWEEN HIM AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE ATTACKING BIDEN. HE IS THE FRONT-RUNNER HERE AND HE'S THE PERSON THAT EVERYONE WILL BE GUNNINGOR. >> IF I WAS VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN I WOULD WRITE A SPEECH AND I WOULD GO OVER HIS RECORD AND HISTORY AND I WOULD ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE THING THAT'S PROBLEMATIC TODAY. I'VE MADE MISTAKES. I'M A DIFFERENT PERSON AND THINGS WERE DIFFERENT THEN BUTTER WHO'S WHO I AM TODAY. I'M WILLING TO CHANGE AND TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY SO THAT HE CAN MOVE ON. >> SPEAKING OF THOSE VOTING RECORDS, THE ONE PERSON WE'VE NOT TALKED ABOUT IS KAMALA HARRIS. >> YEAH. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, WE SAW WHEN SHE GRILLED KAVANAUGH, WHEN SHE GRILLED A.G. BARR, HOW WILL SHE HANDLE BEING IN THE HOT SEAT? >> I THINK SHE HAS THE CHALLENGE OF HIGH EXPECTATIONS. SHE'S, ACCORDING TO A NEW ABC POLL, THE NUMBER ONE CANDIDATE PEOPLE WANT TO LEARN MORE B.PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT WHO SHE IS, HER BACKGROUND. KNOW THAT SHE WAS A PROSECUTOR. THEY LIKELY THINK THAT SHE HAD A STRONG HOPING ROLLOUT TO HER CAPE, VERY SMOOTH. 20,000 PEOPLE AND IT'S NOT EASY TO BUILD AN EVENT TO OPENING YOUR CAMPAIGN, SO I THINK THAT SHE HAS THE CHALLENGE OF INTRODUCING HERSELF TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC FOR FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T SEEN HER AND PUTTING THAT SUBSTANCE OUT THERE TO GO TOE TO TOE WITH AN ELIZABETH WARREN. SHE'S SOMEBODY THAT YOU HAVE TO SEE FOR YOURSELF IN ORDER TO REALLY JUDGE. YOU CAN'T BASED ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, AND IT'S REALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU'RE IN THE ROOM. >> EVERYONE IS SMALLER WHEN YOU MEET. EVERYONE IS SMALLER, AND NORMALLY YOU'RE SEEING THE TISSUES ON TELEVISION AND WHEN YOU SEE THEM THEY ARE ALWAYS THE SMALLER, ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN. >> WHILE SHE'S SMALL IN STATURE SHE HAS PRESENCE AND IS VERY CONFIDENCE AND I WAIT FOR HER TO SAY I FULLY INTEND TO WIN THIS ELECTION AND GETS A SPARKLER IN HER EYE. NOT IN THE RACE TO RAISE HER PROFILE. >> BECAUSE I THINK SHE'S ACTUALLY SOMEONE WHO COULD STAND TO GAIN TOMORROW. >> I MEAN, TO THE POINT THAT EVERY TIME WE'VE SEEN HER IN A SETTING WHERE SHE'S DEBATING SOMEONE OR SHE'S QUESTIONING SOMEONE, SHE STANDS OUT THE MOST, AND I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT KAMALA IS YOU THINK ABOUT BLACK WOMEN, BLACK WOMEN SEEING KAMALA HARRIS AS SOMEONE WHOLE POWERS THEM, THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. >> TWO VERY IMPORTANT ASPECTS. >> I WOULDN'T UNDERESTIMATE IT. >> AND JUST FINALLY, ONE THING THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM VOTERS AND THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON TONIGHT WAS THE ECONOMY. I MEAN, SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM THE OTHER CANDIDATES LAUGH NIGHT WAS INTENTIONED TO SHOW YOU HOW AN ECONOMIC PLAN UNDER A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT COULD BEAT THAT OF TRUMP. HOW COULD THE CANDIDATES TONIGHT DO THAT. >> THAT'S WHERE BIDEN HAS SOME EXPLAINING TO DO. BECAUSE HE DID MAKE THE REMARKS THAT WERE WIDELY CRITICIZED ABOUT WORKING WITH SEGREGATIONIST DEMOCRATS AND DURING THE SAME REMARKS HE ALSO SAID THAT NOTHING WOULD CHANGE FOR THIS GROUP OF WEALTHY DONORS, THAT THINGS WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TOOK THAT TO INTERPRET THEY WOULDN'T BE PAYING MORE MONEY OR BE SUBJECT TO A WEALTH TAX LIKE A LOT OF OTHER CANDIDATES ARE PUSHING FOR AND THAT'S WHERE SOMEONE LIKE BERNIE SANDERS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE, AT LEAST IN A CERTAIN AGE GROUP POTENTIALLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, HE DOES HAVE A MULTI-FACETTED APPROACH TO BUILDING THE ECONOMY WITH HIS STUDENT DEBT PLAN, WITH HIS WEALTH TAX, AND I THINK THAT HE'S UNPARALED ON THE STAGE IN TERMS OF OFFERING THAT SPECTRUM OF POLICIES. >> WITH LESS THAN ONE MINUTE TO GO UNTIL THESE CANDIDATES -- THEY ARE ALREADY ON THE STAGE AND WHEN THEY BEGIN. DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE CANDIDATES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS WITH THE EVOLUTION OF THEIR IDEAS, OR DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IDEA FOR THEM TO BEGIN WITH A BRAND-NEW PLAN FOR AMERICA? >> I THINK THEY NEED TO SHOW HOW THEY ARE BETTER THAN DONALD TRUMP AND DEFEAT HIM. >> SO TONIGHT ABOUT TRUMP. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THIS IS THE MOMENT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE THE CANDIDATES TAKE THE STAGE. STAY RIGHT HERE BECAUSE WE ARE HEADED STRAIGHT TO MIAMI. . >>> GOOD EVENING, I'M LESTER HOLT. WELCOME TO NIGHT TWO OF THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE IN THE 2020 RACE FOR PRESIDENT. >> LAST NIGHT WE HEARD FROM TEN CANDIDATES. TEN MORE TAKE THE STAGE. >> AGAIN TONIGHTLA WE'LL BE JOID IN THE QUESTIONING BY OUR COLLEAGUE JOSE DIAZ BALART, CHUCK TODD AND RACHEL MADDOW. >> TONIGHT, ROUND TWO, MICHAEL BENNET, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, SOUTH BEND INDIANA MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, KAMALA HARRIS, FORMER COLORADO GOVERNOR JOHN HICKENLOOPER, BERNIE SANDERS, CALIFORNIA CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL, AUTHOR MARY ANNEMA WILLIAM SON. DECISION 2020, THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE DEBATE. LIVE FROM MIAMI, FLORIDA. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN. WELCOME TO THE CANDIDATES AND OURR SPIRITED AUDIENCE TONIGHT HERE AND ACROSS AMERICA. WE CONTINUE THE SPIRITED DEBATE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY, HOW TO ATTACK OUR MOST PRESSING PROBLEMS AND GETTING TO THE HEART OF THE BIGGESTF ISSUES I THIS DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. >> TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE, ARIMMIGRATION. WE'RE GOING TO DIVE INTO THE ECONOMY, CLIMATE CHANGE AS WELL. >> THE I RULES OF THE ROAD BEFO WE BEGIN MAY SOUND FAMILIAR. 20 CANDIDATES QUALIFIED FOR THE FIRST DEBATE. WE HEARD FROM TEN LAST NIGHT. WE'LL HEAR FROM TEN MORE TONIGHT. THE BREAKDOWN WAS SELECTED AT RANDOM. THEY HAVE 60AT SECONDS TO ANSWE AND 30 SECONDS FOR A FOLLOW UP. >> BECAUSE OF THE LARGE FIELD NOT EVERY PERSON CAN WEIGH IN AN EVERY TOPIC. OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT TWO HOURS WE WILL HEAR FROM EVERYONE. >> WE LOVE OUR AUDIENCE BUT WE'D LIKE TO ASK THEM TO KEEP THEIR REACTIONS TO A MINIMUM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO HOLD BACK IN MAKING SURE THE CANDIDATES STICK TO TIME. WITH THAT BUSINESS TAKEN CARE OF LET'S GET TO IT. WE'LL START TODAY WITH SENATOR SANDERS. GOOD EVENING. YOU HAVEND CALLED FOR BIG NEW GOVERNMENT BENEFITS LIKE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AND FREE COLLEGE. IN A RECENT INTERVIEW YOU SAID YOU SUSPECTED AMERICANS WOULD BE, AQUOTE, DELIGHTED TO PAY ME TAXES FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. MY QUESTION IS WILL TAXES GO UP FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN A SANDERS ADMINISTRATION AND IF SO, HOW DO YOU SELL IT TO VOTERS? >> YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT. WE HAVE A NEW VISION FOR AMERICA. AT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OWNING MORE WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF AMERICA WHILE 500,000 PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING OUT ON THE STREETS TODAY, WE THINK IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE, REAL CHANGE. BY THAT I MEAN THAT HEALTH CARE, IN MY VIEW, IS A HUMAN RIGHT. WE HAVE GOT TO PASS A MEDICARE FOR ALL, SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM. UNDER THAT YESYSTEM, BY THE WAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WILL BE PAYING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS FOR HEALTH CARE THAN THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE THAT EDUCATION IS THE FUTURE FOR THIS COUNTRY. THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE WE MUST MAKE PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES TUITION-FREE AND ELIMINATE STUDENT DEBT. WE DO THAT BY PLACING A TAX ON WALL STREET. EVERY PROPOSAL THAT I HAVE BROUGHT FORTH IS FULLY PAID FOR. >> SENATOR SANDERS, I WILL GIVE YOU TEN SECONDS TO ANSWER THIS VERY DIRECT QUESTION. WILL YOU RAISE TAXES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN A SANDERS ADMINISTRATION? >> PEOPLE WHO HAVE HEALTH CARE UNDER MEDICARE>> FOR ALL WILL HE NO PREMIUMS, NO DEDUCTIBLES, NO COPAYMENTS, NO OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES. YES. THEY WILL PAY MORE IN TAXES BUT LESS IN HEALTH CARE FOR WHAT THEY GET. >> THANK YOU, SENATOR. >> SENATOR SANDERS -- >> SENATOR BENNETT, WE'LL GET TO EVERYBODY, I PROMISE. I PROMISE EVERYBODY WILL GET IN HERE, I PROMISE. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, SENATOR SANDERS HAS BEEN CALLING FOR A REVOLUTION. RECENTLY IN REMARKS TO A GROUP OF G WEALTHY DONORS AS YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF INCOME INEQUALITY YOU SAID WE SHOULDN'T DEMONIZERO THE RICH. YOU SAID NOBODY HAS TO BE PUNISHED. NO ONE'S STANDARD OF LIVING WOULD CHANGE. NOTHING WOULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE. THAT?O YOU MEAN BY >> LOOK, DONALD TRUMP THINKS WALL STREET BUILT AMERICA. MY DAD HAD AN EXPRESSION. A JOB IS ABOUT MORE THAN A PAYCHECK.ER IT'S ABOUT DIGNITY, RESPECT, LOOKING YOUR KID IN THE EYEMY A SAYING EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY. TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE CLASINS HAVE HAD THE BOTTOM FAL OUT UNDER THIS A PROPOSAL. I'M SAYING WE HAVE TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO RETURN DIGNITY TO THE MIDDLE CLASS THEY HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE THAT'S COVERED AND THEY CAN AFFORD IT. THEY HAVE TO. MAKE SURE WE ARE N A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS CONTINUINGN EDUCATION AND THEY CAN PAY FOR IT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN BREATHE AIR THAT'S CLEAN AND THEY HAVE WATERCL THEY CAN DRIN. DONALD TRUMP PUT US IN A HORRIBLE SITUATION. WE HAVE ENORMOUS INCOME INEQUALITY. WE CAN MAKE CUTS IN THE $1.6 TRILLION IN TAXHE LOOPHOLES AND WOULD BE GOING ABOUT ELIMINATING DONALD TRUMP'S TAX CUTS TO THE WEALTHY. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, THANK YOU. SENATOR HARRIS, THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT NEW BENEFITS LIKE STUDENT LOAN CANCELLATION, FREE COLLEGE, HEALTH CARE AND MORE. DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO EXPLAIN HOW THEY WILL PAY FOR EVERY PROPOSAL THEY MAKE ALONG THOSE LINES? >> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. I HEAR THAT QUESTION, BUT WHERE WAS THAT QUESTION WHEN THE REPUBLICANSMP AND DONALD TRUMP PASSED A BILL THAT BENEFITTED THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE TOP 1% CONTRIBUTING AT LEAST $1 TRILLION TO THE DEBT OF AMERICA WHICH MIDDLE CLASSBT FAMILIES WL PAY FOR ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WORKING A FAMILIES NEED SUPPORT AND NEED TO BE LIFTED UP. FRANKLY, THIS ECONOMY IS NOT WORKINGAN FOR WORKING PEOPLE. FOR TOO LONG THE RULES HAVE BEEN WORKING IN FAVOR OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE MOST AND NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THE MOST. I AM PROPOSING WE CHANGE THE TAX CODE. FOR EVERY FAMILY THAT'S MAKING LESS THAN $100,000 A YEAR THEY RECEIVE A TAX CREDIT THEY CAN COLLECT OF $500 A MONTH WHICH MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE FAMILIES GETTING THROUGH THETH END OF THE MONTH WITH DIGNITY AND SUPPORTT OR NOT. ON DAY ONE, I WILL REPEAL THE TAX BILL THAT BENEFITS THE TOP 1% AND THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA. >> SENATOR HARRIS, THANK YOU. GOVERNOR HICKENLOOPER YOU WARNED DEMOCRATS WILL LOSE IN 2020 IF THEY EMBRACE SOCIALISM, AS YOU PUT IT. YOU WERE BOOED AT THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION WHEN YOU SAID THAT. ONLY ONE CANDIDATE ON THIS STAGE, SENATOR SANDERS IDENTIFIES HIMSELF AS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. WHAT ARE THE POLICIES OR T POSITIONS OF YOUR OPPONENTS YOU THINK ARE VEERING TOWARD SOCIALISM? >> I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF WE DON'T CLEARLY DEFINE THAT WE ARE NOT SOCIALISTS THE REPUBLICANS WILL COME AT US EVERY WAY THEY CAN AND CALL US SOCIALISTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN NEW DEAL WHICH I ADMIRE THE SENSE OF URGENCY ANDD HOW IMPORTANT IT I TO DO CLIMATE CHANGE, I'M A SCIENTIST. WE CAN'T PROMISE EVERY AMERICAN A GOVERNMENT JOB. IF YOU WANT UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COVERAGE, HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT NOT A PRIVILEGE. YOU CAN'T EXPECT TO ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE FOR 180 MILLION PEOPLE, MANY OF WHOM DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP. IN COLORADO WE BROUGHT BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS TOGETHER. WE GOT NEAR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. WE WERE THE FIRST STATE IN AMERICA TOGE HAVE THE OIL AND G INDUSTRY AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS METHANE EMISSIONS. WE WERE THE FIRST PLACE TO EXPAND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ON A SCALE BASIS WE REDUCED TEEN PREGNANCY BY 54%. WE HAVE DONE THE BIG PROGRESSIVE THINGS PEOPLE SAID COULDN'T BE DONE. I HAVE DONE WHAT PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE ELSE UP HERE IS STILL TALKING ABOUT DOING. >> GOVERNOR SANDERS, I WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN. WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THOSE WHO SAY NOMINATING A SOCIALIST WOULDIA RE-ELECT DONALD TRUMP? >> I THINK THE RESPONSE AT THE LAST POLL I SAW HAD US TEN POINTS AHEAD OF DONALD TRUMP. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT TRUMP IS A PHONY. TRUMP IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR AND A RACIST AND THAT HE LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO STAND UP FOR WORKING FAMILIES. WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU'RE NOT STANDING UP FOR WORKING FAMILIES WHEN YOU'RET TRYING T THROWNG 32 MILLION PEOPLE OFF T HEALTH CARE THAT THEY HAVE AND 83% OF YOUR TAX BENEFITS GO TO THE TOP 1%. THAT'S HOW WE BEAT TRUMP. WE EXPOSE HIM FOR THE FRAUD THAT HE IS. >> SENATOR -- >> THE DEBATE WE ARE HAVING IN OUR PARTY RIGHT NOW IS CONFUSING. THE TRUTH IS THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CAPITALISM ON THE ONE HAND AND GREED ON THE OTHER. SO ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE IS WHEN MORE ABOUT RE PROFITS THAN THEY DO ABOUT PEOPLE. SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ENDING GUN VIOLENCE. IT'S THE GREED OF THE NRA AND THE GUN MANUFACTURERS THAT MAKE ANY PROGRESS IMPOSSIBLE. IT'SHE THE GREED OF INSURANCE COMPANIES. >> THANK AYOU. >> THERE MAY NOT BE DISAGREEMENT IN THE PARTY BECAUSE IN TRUTH WE WANT -- >> SENATOR, THANK YOU. >> WE DON'T WANT CORRUPTED CAPITALISM. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO BE LI FAIR TO ALL THE CANDIDATES. SENATOR BENNET YOU SAID IT IS POSSIBLE TO WRITELE POLICY PROPOSALS WITH NO BASIS IN REALITY. YOU MIGHT AS WELL CALL THEM CANDY. WERE YOU REFERRING TO ANY PROPOSAL INAR PARTICULAR? >> WAS THAT FOR ME? IT SOUNDED LIKE ME, THANK YOU. >> IT WAS YOU. >> I APPRECIATE IT. I AGREE WITH BERNIE. 40 YEARS OF NOW ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR 90% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. FAMILIES IN THE TOP 1% HAVE THE SAME WEALTH AS THE BOTTOM 1%. WE HAVE THE WORST INCOME INEQUALITY WE HAVE HAD IN A HUNDRED YEARS. IN DISAGREE ON HIS SOLUTION OF MEDICARE FOR ALL. I HAVE PROPOSED GETTING TO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE WHICH WE NEED TOGE DO. IT IS A RIGHT. HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT. WE NEED TO GET TO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. I BELIEVE THE WAY TO DO IT IS BY FINISHING THE WORK WE STARTED WITH OBAMACARE AND CREATING A PUBLIC OPTION THAT EVERY FAMILY AND EVERY PERSON IN AMERICA CAN MAKE A CHOICE FOR THEIR FAMILY ABOUT WHETHER THEY WANT A PUBLIC OPTION WHICH FOR THEM WOULD BE LIKE HAVING MEDICARE FOR ALL OR IF THEY WANT TO KEEP PRIVATE INSURANCE. I BELIEVE WE'LL GET THERE MORE QUICKLY IF WE DO THAT. IF I COULD FINISH, BERNIE MENTIONED THE TAXES WE WOULD HAVE TOIM PAY. BECAUSE OF THE TAXES VERMONT REJECTED MEDICARE FOR ALL. >> WHOA, WHOA, SENATOR. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HEALTH CARE AT HELENGTH. FOR THE MOMENT -- >> I WROTE THE PART IN SENATOR SANDERS' BILL THAT IS THE TRANSITION WHICH MERGES WHAT THE TWO SENATORS SAID. >> SENATOR. >> THE TRUTH IS YOU HAVE A BUY-IN OVERUT A FOUR OR FIVE-YE PERIOD. YOU MOVE US TOBUR SINGLE PAYERE QUICKLY. >> WE WILL GET TO THIS, SENATOR. WE WILL. BEFORE WE DO, I WANT TO SAY HELLO, GOOD EVENING, BUENOS NOCHES TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. [ SPEAKING SPANISH ] >> MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON STAGE SUPPORT FREE COLLEGE. YOU DO NOT. WHY NOT? >> SURE. COLLEGE AFFORDABILITY IS PERSONAL FOR US. WE HAVE SIX-FIGURE STUDENT DEBT. I BELIEVE IN REDUCING STUDENT DEBT. IT'S H LOGICAL TO ME IF YOU CAN REFINANCE YOUR HOUSE YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO REFINANCE YOUR STUDENT DEBT. I BELIEVE IN FREE COLLEGE FOR LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME STUDENTS FOR WHOM COSTS COULD BE A BARRIER. I DON'T BELIEVE IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE FAMILIES SUBSIDIZE T BILLIONAIRES. THE CHILDREN OF THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS CAN PAY A LITTLE BIT OF TUITION. WHILE I WANT TUITION COSTS TO GO DOWN I DON'T THINK WE CAN BUY DOWN EVERY LAST PENNY. SOMETHING ELSE DOESN'T GET TALKED ABOUT IN THE COLLEGE AFFORDABILITY DEBATE. YES, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE TO GO TO COLLEGE. IT NEEDS TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE TO NOT GO TO COLLEGE. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WELL, AFFORD RENT, BE GENEROUS TO YOUR CHURCH AND LITTLE LEAGUE WHETHER YOU WENT TO COLLEGE OR NOT. >> I HAVE $100,000 IN STUDENT LOAN DEBT MYSELF. YOU CAN'T COUNT ON PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT WHO WERE HERE WHEN THE PROBLEM WAS CREATED TO SOLVE IT. IT'S THE NEXT GENERATION, THE 40 MILLION OF US WHO CAN'T START A FAMILY, CAN'T TAKE A GOOD IDEA AND START A BUSINESS AND CAN'T BUY OUR FIRST HOME. THIS IS THE GENERATION THAT CAN SOLVE STUDENT LOANN DEBT. THIS GENERATION IS READY TO LEAVE. >>DY MR. YANG, YOUR SIGNATURE POLICY IS TO GIVE EVERY ADULT IN THE UNITED STATES $1,000 A MONTH, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. >> THAT'S NORIGHT. >> THAT'S LIKE $3.2 TRILLION A YEAR. HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? >> I'M SORRY? >> HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT? >>U OH, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO D IFIF YOU HAVE COMPANIES LIKE AMAZON, TRILLION DOLLAR TECH COMPANIES PAYING ZERO IN TAXES WHILE THEY CLOSE L 30% OF OUR STORES. WE NEENGD TO PUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN A POSITION TO BENEFIT FROM THE ECONOMY. IF WE HAD A VALUE-ADDED TAX EVEN HALF THE EUROPEAN LEVEL COMBINED WITH THE MONEY IN OUR HANDS IT WOULD BE A TRICKLE-UP ECONOMY FROM PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES UP. WE WOULD SPEND THE MONEY.Y. IT WOULD CIRCULATE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS CREATING JOBS, MAKING OUR FAMILIES STRONGER AND HEALTHIER. WE WOULD SAVE MONEY ON INCARCERATION, HOMELESSNESS SERVICES, EMERGENCY ROOM HEALTH CARE. AND HAVING A STRONGER, HEALTHIER POPULATIONRO WOULD INCREASE GDPY $700 BILLION. THIS IS A MOVE WE HAVE TO MAKE AS TECHNOLOGY AUTOMATES THE WAY MILLIONS OF AMERICAN JOBS -- IT'S T WHY DONALD TRUMP IS OUR PRESIDENT TODAY. WE AUTOMATED AUTOMOTIVE JOBS AND WE ARE DOING THE SAME TO RETAIL, CALL CENTERS, FAST FOOD, TRUCK DRIVING AND ON AND ON M THROUGH THE ECONOMY. >> IF I CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER YOU'RERE SAYING $1,000 A MONTH R EVERYONE OVER 18 BUT A VALUE-ADDED TAX SO YOU CAN SPEND THAT $1,000 ON VALUE-ADDED TAX? >> THE VALUE ADDED TAX YOU WOULD INCREASE THE BUYING POWER OF THE BOTTOM 94% OF AMERICANS. YOU WOULD HAVE $12,000 PER INDIVIDUAL PER YEAR. FOR THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD OF TWO ADULTS IT WOULD BE $24,000 A YEAR. >> MANY TALK ABOUT SELF-DRIVING CARS, ROBOTS, DRONES, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WILL COST THEM JOBS. WHAT WOULD YOU. DO TO HELP PEOPE GET THEE SKILLS THEY NEED TO ADAPT TO THESK NEW WORLD? >> WE MUST ALWAYS BE A COUNTRY WHERE TECHNOLOGY CREATES MORE JOBS THAN IT DISPLACES. I HAVE SEEN THE ANXIETY IN AMERICA WHERE THE MANUFACTURING FLOORSRS GO FROM 1,000 TO A HUNDRED TO ONE. WE HAVE TO MODERNIZE OUR SCHOOLS. VALUE THE TEACHERS WHO PREPARE OUR KIDS, WIPE STUDENT DEBT WHO GOES TO A COMMUNITY WHO NEEDS IT. JOSE, I WAS 6 YEARS OLD WHEN A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CAME TO THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION AND SAID IT'S TIME TO PASS THE TORCH TO A NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS. THAT CANDIDATE WAS THEN SENATOR JOE BIDEN.N. JOE BIDEN WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID IT WAS TIME TO PASS THE TORCH TO A NEW GENERATION 32 YEARS AGO. HE'S STILL RIGHT TODAY. IF WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUES OF AUTOMATION, PASS THE TORCH, CLIMATE CHAOS, PASS THE TORCH, STUDENT LOAN DEBT, PASS THE TORCH, ENDING GUN VIOLENCE FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE FEARFUL OF SENDING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL, PASS THE TORCH. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SING A TORCH SONG? >> I WOULD. ONTO THE LL HOLDING TORCH. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS PREPARED BETTER TO GO ON FOR AN EDUCATION. THE FACT IS THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE FOCUSING ON SCHOOLS THAT ARE IN DISTRESS. WE SHOULD TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FORT TITLE ONE SCHOOLS, HAVE UNIVERSAL PRE-K. EVERY PERSON WHO GRADUATES FROM HIGH SCHOOL, 65 OUT OF A HUNDRED NEED SOMETHING10 BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL. WE SHOULD PROVIDE FOR THEM TO GET THE EDUCATION. HAVE ANYONE HAVE TO PAY BACK STUDENT DEBT WHEN THEY GET BACK MAKING LESS THAN $25,000 A YEAR. THEIR DEBT IS FROZEN, NO INTEREST PAYMENT UNTIL THEY GET BEYOND THAT. WE CAN'T PUT PEOPLE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN'T MOVE ON.ON THERE IS A LOT WE CAN DO. WE HAVE TOLK MAKE CONTINUING EDUCATION AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE CAN COMPETE IN THE 21st CENTURY. WE ARE NOT DOING THAT NOW. >> AS THE YOUNGEST GUY ON THE STAGE I SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE GENERATION COMMENT. >> BEFORE WE MOVE ON -- [ SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY ] >> -- TO TAKE ON THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, TO TAKE ON THE BIG MONEY INTERESTS WHO HAVE UNBELIEVABLE INFLUENCE OVER THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL LIFE OF THIS TCOUNTRY. >> SENATOR HARRIS -- >> I'M SORRY. WE WILL LET YOU ALL SPEAK. SENATOR HARRIS. >> HEY, GUYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? AMERICA DOESN'T WANT TO WITNESS A FOOD FIGHT. THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'LL PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] ON THAT POINT PART OF THE ISSUE IN AMERICA TODAY AND WE HAVE BEEN TRAVELING THE COUNTRY. I CERTAINLY HAVE. I'M MEETING PEOPLE WORKING TWO, THREE JOBS. THIS PRESIDENT WALKS AROUND TALKING ABOUT AND FLOUTING HIS GREAT ECONOMY. MY GREAT ECONOMY, MY GREAT ECONOMY. HOW ARE YOU MEASURING THE GREATNESS OF THE ECONOMY? HE TALKS ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET. THAT'S FINE IF YOU OWN STOCKS. SO MANY FAMILIES IN AMERICA DO NOT. YOU ASK HOW ARE YOU MEASURING THE GREATNESS OF THE ECONOMY. THEY POINT TO THE JOBS NUMBERS AND UNEMPLOYMENT. YEAH, PEOPLETH IN AMERICA ARE WORKING TWO AND THREETH JOBS. LET'S BE CLEAR. IN OUR AMERICA NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO WORK MORE THAN ONE JOB A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD ANDER FOOD ON THE TABLE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A SHOW OF HANDS LQUESTION. WE ASKEDED A QUESTION ABOUT HEAH CARE LAST NIGHT. IT SPURRED A LOT OF DISCUSSION, AS YOU KNOW. WE'LL DO IT AGAIN NOW. MANY PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYER. WHO HERE WOULD ABOLISH PRIVATE A LTH INSURANCE IN FAVOR OF GOVERNMENT-RUN PLAN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND. >> THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. THE PLAN IS HOW YOU GET TO SINGLE PAYER. IT HAS A BUY IN TRANSITION PERIOD WHICH IS IMPORTANT. I RAN IN A 2-1 DISTRICT. I RAN ON MEDICARE FOR ALL AND WON THAT DISTRICT TWICE. THEDI WAY I FORMULATED IT WAS SIMPLE. ANYONEE WITHOUT ACCESS COULD B IN A PERCENTAGE OF INCOME THEY COULD AFFORD. THAT'S WHATAN WE PUT INTO THE TRANSITION PERIOD FOR OUR MEDICARE FOR ALL PLAN. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET TO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE AS AR RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE TO SINGLE PAYER. THE QUICKEST WAY YOU GET THERE IS CREATE COMPETITION WITH THE INSURERS. GOD BLESS THEM IFF THEY WANT TO COMPETE. THEY CAN TRY. THEY HAVE NEVER PUT PEOPLE OVER PROFITS. I DOUBT THEY EVER WILL. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS PEOPLE WILL CHOOSE MEDICARE. WE'LL GET TO MEDICARE FOR ALL AND THE STEPS TO SINGLE PAYER IS SO SHORT. I WOULD MAKE IT AN EARNED BENEFIT LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY. SO YOU BUY IN YOUR WHOLE LIFE. IT IS THERE FOR YOU, PERMANENT AND UNIVERSAL. >> SENATOR, I WANT TO PUT THE SAME QUESTION TO MAYOR BUTTIGIEG. >> EVERYBODY WHO SAYS MEDICARE FOR ALL, EVERY PERSON IN POLITICS WHOAR ALLOWS THAT PHRA TOHO ESCAPE THEIR LIPS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE. I WOULD CALL IT MEDICARE FOR ALL WHO WANTSI IT. YOU TAKE SOMETHING LIKE MEDICARE, A FLAVOR OF THAT, MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON THE EXCHANGES. PEOPLE CAN BUY IN. IF WE'RE RIGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A MORE INCLUSIVE PLAN, A MORE EFFICIENT PLAN THAN THE CORPORATE ANSWERS IT WOULD BE A NATURAL GLIDE PATH TO THE SINGLE PAYER ENVIRONMENT. LET'S REMEMBER, IN COUNTRIES WITH OUTRIGHT SOCIALIZED MEDICINES LIKE ENGLAND, THERE IS A PRIVATE SECTOR. FOR THE PRIMARY CARE WE CAN'T RELY ON CORPORATE. THIS IS PERSONAL FOR ME. I STARTED THIS YEAR DEALING WITH THE TERMINAL ILLNESS OF MY FATHER. I MAKEI DECISIONS FOR A LIVING AND NOTHING COULD HAVE PREPARED ME FOR THE DECISIONS MY FAMILY FACED. WE NEVER HAD TO MAKE THE DECISIONSMI BASED ON WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BANKRUPT OUR FAMILY BECAUSE OF MEDICARE. I WANT EVERY FAMILY TO HAVE THE SEEM FREEDOM TO DO WHAT IS MEDICALLY RIGHT. >> YOUR TIME IS COMPLETE. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU WERE ONE OF THE ARCHITECTS OF OBAMACARE. WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? >> LOOK, THIS IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME. WHEN MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER WERE KILLED IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT, MY BOYS WERE BADLY INJURED, I COULDN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE IF I HADN'T HAD ADEQUATE HEALTH CARE. WHEN MY SON CAME HOME FROM IRAQ AND WAS DIAGNOSED WITH TERMINAL CANCER AND WAS GIVEN MONTHS TO LIVE, I CAN'T FATHOM WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY SAID, BY THE WAY, THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF YOUR LIFE, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. WE'RE CUTTING YOU OFF. YOU USED UP YOUR TIME. THE FACT IS THE QUICKEST WAY TO DO IT IS BUILD ON OBAMACARE, BUILD ON WHAT WE DID. SECONDLY, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE DOES HAVE AN OPTION. EVERYONE WHETHER THEY HAVE PRIVATE INSURANCE, EMPLOYER INSURANCE OR NO INSURANCE. THEY COULD BUY INTO THE EXCHANGE IN A MED KARE-LIKE PLAN. URGENCY MATTERS. THERE'S PEOPLE RIGHT NOW FACING WHAT I FACED AND WHAT WE FACED WITHOUT THE HELP I HAD. WE MUST MOVE MOW. I AM AGAINST ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE DOWN OBAMACARE. >> SENATOR SANDERS YOU BASICALLY WANT TO SCRAP THE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE SYSTEM AS WERA KNOW I AND REPLACE ITT WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN PLAN. NONE OF THE STATES THAT TRIED SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- CALIFORNIA, VERMONT STRUGGLED WITH IT AND HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. IF POLITICIANS CAN'T MAKE IT WORK THERE HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT IT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL? >> I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT EVERY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY INCLUDING CANADA SOMEHOW HASIN FIGURED OUT A WAY TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE TO EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD. IN MOST CASES THEY ARE SPENDING 50% PER CAPITA WHAT THEY ARE SPENDING. LET'S BE CLEAR. LET US BE VERY CLEAR. THE FUNCTION OF HEALTH CARE TODAY FROM THE INSURANCE AND DRUG COMPANY PERSPECTIVE IS NOT TO PROVIDE QUALITY CARE TO ALL IN A COST EFFECTIVE WAY. THE FUNCTION OF THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM TODAYTI IS TO MAKE BILLIS IN PROFITS FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND LAST YEAR IF YOU COULD BELIEVEIE IT, WHILE WE PA THEE HIGHEST PRICES IN THE WORL FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND I WILL LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES IN HALF IN THIS COUNTRY, TOP TEN COMPANIES MADE $69 BILLION IN PROFITS. THEY WILL SPEND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TELLING US WHY WE CANNOTT HAVE A MEDICARE FOR ALL -- >> I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP. HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT IT ON A NATIONAL LEVEL GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT SUCCEEDED AND OTHER STATES HAVEE TRIED. >> WE'LL DO IT THE WAY REAL CHANGE HAS ALWAYS TAKEN PLACE. WHETHER IT WAS THE LABOR MOVEMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT OR THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT. WE WILL HAVE MEDICARE FOR ALL. WHEN TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AREEN PREPARED TO STAND UP AND TELL THE INSURANCECE COMPANIES D THE DRUG COMPANIES THEIR DAY IS GONE, THAT HEALTH CARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT, NOT SOMETHING TO MAKE HUGE PROFITS WITH. >> THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MS. WILLIAMSON. WE HAVEE TALKED ABOUT ACCESS TO HEALTH INSURANCE. FOR MANY AMERICANS THE MOST PRESSING CONCERN IS THE HIGH COST OF HEALTH CARE. HOW WOULD YOU LOWER THE COST OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS? >> FIRST OF ALL, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NEVER HAVE MADE THE DEAL BIG PHARMA THEY COULDN'T NEGOTIATE. CORPORATIONS HAD THEIR WAYT WI US. WHILE I AGREE -- I'M WITH SENATOR BENNET AND OTHERS. I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING. IT'S NICE WE HAVE ALL THE PLANS BUT IF YOU THINK WE ARE GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP BY HAVING PLANS YOU'VE T GOT ANOTHER THIN COMING. HE DIDN'T WIN BYNO SAYING HE HAA PLAN. HE WON BY SAYING MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. WE HAVE TO GETET DEEPER THAN SUPERFICIAL FIXES, AS IMPORTANT AS THEY ARE. EVEN TALKING ABOUT SUPERFICIAL FIXES, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DON'T HAVE A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE A SICKNESS CARE SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES. WE WAITT FOR SOMEBODY TO GET SICK, TALK ABOUT WHO WILL PAY FOR THE TREATMENT AND HOW THEY WILL BY E TREATED. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHY SO MANY AMERICANS HAVE UNNECESSARY CHRONICY ILLNESSES, SO MANY MO COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTRIES. THAT GETS BACK TO NOT JUST THE BIG PHARMA, NOT JUST HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES. IT HAS TO DO WITH CHEMICAL POLICIES, ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES. >> THAT'S YOUR TIME. >> IT HAS TO DO WITH DRUG POLICIES. >> THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH OBAMACARE AND BUILD ON IT? YOU MENTIONED IT. IS THAT ENOUGH TO GET US TO UNIVERSAL COVERAGE? >> THAT WILL GET US THE QUICKEST WAY THERE. I HAD PROSTATE CANCER AND THAT'S WHY I WAS LATE GETTING IN THE RACE. THE SAME WEEK MY KID HAD HER APPENDIX OUT. I FEEL STRONGLY FAMILIES SHOULD HAVE THE CHOICE. THAT'S WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT. I BELIEVE IT WILL GET US THERE QUICKLY. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA THAT DO NOT HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE TODAY BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO WEALTHY. THEY MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE ON MEDICAID. THEY CAN'T AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE. WHEN SENATOR SANDERS SAID THAT CANADA IS SINGLE PAYER, THERE ARE 35 MILLION P PEOPLE IN CANA. THERE ARE 330 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES. EASILY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON A PUBLIC OPTION. THEY COULD BE 35 MILLION. FOR THEM THAT WOULD BE MEDICARE FOR ALL BUT FOR OTHERS WHO WANT TO KEEPTO IT THEY SHOULD BE ABL TO KEEP IT. THAT WOULD BE THE FASTEST WAY O GET WHERE WE GO. HE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THIS WILL BAN MAKING ILLEGAL ALL INSURANCE EXCEPT COSMETIC. EXCEPT INSURANCE FOR, I GUESS THAT'S FOR PLASTIC SURGERY. EVERYTHING ELSE IS BANNED UNDER THE MEDICARE FOR ALL PROPOSAL. >> I LET YOU GO LONGER, BUT OBVIOUSLY SENATOR SANDERS GETS A RESPONSE. >> I HAVE A POINTNTE HERE. >> SENATOR SANDERS? >> H YOU KNOW, MIKE, MEDICARE I THE MOST POPULAR INSURANCE PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THEIR PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES. THEY LIKE THEIR DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS. PEOPLE GO TO ANY DOCTOR THEY WANT, ANY HOSPITAL THEY WANT. WE WILL LOWER THE COST OF HEALTH CARE IN THE COUNTRY. WE'LL STOP THE GREED OF THE INSURANCE -- >> THE REALITY OF HOW THIS AFFECTS REAL PEOPLE ISIS CAPTUR IN A STORY MANY OF US HEARD AND I WILL PARAPHRASE. ANY NIGHT IN AMERICA THERE IS A PARENT WHO SEES THEIR CHILD HAS A TEMPERATURE THAT'S OUT OF CONTROL, CALLS 911, WHAT SHOULD I DO? THEY SAY TAKE THE CHILD TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. GET IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE AND THEY ARE SITTING IN THE PARKING LOT OUTSIDE OF THE EMERGENCY ROOMOM LOOKING AT THE SLIDING GLASSER DOORS WHILE THE HAVE THE HAND ON THE FOREHEAD OF THEIR N CHILD, KNOWING THAT IF THEY WALK THROUGHTH THE SLIDING GLASS DOORS, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE INSURANCE THEY WILL BE OUT ASU $5,000 DEDUCTIBLE WHEN THEY WALK THROUGH THE DOORS. THAT'S WHAT INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE DOING IN AMERICA TODAY. >> WE'LL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. [ SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY ] >> I WAS JUST IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. WE FIGHT HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES EVERY SINGLE WEEK. >> THANK YOU. >> WE STAND IN LINE AND PAY EXPENSIVE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. WE HAVE TO HAVE A HEALTH CARE GUARANTEE. IF YOU'RE SICK, YOU ARE SEEN. IN AMERICA YOU NEVER GO BROKE BECAUSE OFO IT. >> OKAY. A LOT OF YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING TONIGHT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE PLANS YOUBE PROPOSE INME ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. THIS IS A SHOW OF HANDS QUESTION. HOLD THEM UP FOR A MOMENT SO PEOPLEQU CAN SEE. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOUR GOVERNMENT PLAN WOULD PROVIDE COVERAGE FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. LET ME START WITH YOU, MAYOR BUTTIGIEG. WHY? >> OUR COUNTRY IS HEALTHIER WHEN EVERYBODY IS HEALTHIER. REMEMBER, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING PEOPLE ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO BUY INTO. IN THE SAME WAY THERE ARE UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN MY COMMUNITY WHO PAY SALES TAX. THEY PAY PROPERTY TAXES DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT A HANDOUT. THIS IS AN INSURANCE PROGRAM. WE DO OURSELVES NO FAVORS BY HAVING 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY BE UNABLE TO ACCESS HEALTH CARE. THE REAL PROBLEM IS WE SHOULDN'T HAVE 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE WITH NO PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP. IT MAKES NO SENSE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGREE ON WHAT TO DO. THIS IS A CRAZY THING. IF LEADERSHIP CONSISTS OF FORMING A CONSENSUS AROUND A DIVISIVE ISSUE, THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS DIVIDED US AROUND A CONSENSUS ISSUE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT A PATHWAY TO U CITIZENSHIP, PROTECTION FOR DREAMERS. WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE LAWFUL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM LIKE HOW MY FATHER CAME TO THIS COUNTRY. WE CAN DO WHATEVER COMMON SENSE MEASURES ARE NEEDED AT THE BORDER. WASHINGTON CAN'T DELIVER ON SOMETHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT THE SYSTEM WE ARE LIVING IN? >> MAYOR, THANK YOU. >> STRUCTURAL REFORM. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, I BELIEVE YOU SAID YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN WOULD NOT COVER UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN YOUR POSITION? >> I BEG YOUR PARDON? >> I BELIEVE WITH A SHOW OF HANDS YOUME CAN'T RAISE YOUR HA. DID YOU? >> I DID. >> SORRY. YOU SAID THEY WOULD BE COVERED UNDER YOUR PLAN WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM OBAMACARE. CAN YOUU EXPLAIN THAT? >> YES. YOU CANNOT LET PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK NOS MATTER WHERE THEY COM FROM, NO MATTER THEIR STATUS GO UNCOVERED. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. IT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF, PERIOD. IT'S THE HUMANE THING TO DO. HERE'S THE DEAL. HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THREE THINGS. NUMBER ONE, THEY, IN FACT, CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL-BEING OF THE COUNTRY. THEY ALSO, FOR EXAMPLE, INCREASE THE LIFE SPAN OF SOCIAL SECURITY. THEY ARE PAYING THE SOCIAL SECURITY TAX. IT INCREASED THE LIFE SPAN. THEY WOULD DO THE SAME THING IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL COST OF HEALTH CARE BY THEMM BEING TREATED AND NOT WAIT. THE OTHER THING IS WE CAN DEAL WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES BY PUTTING INSURANCE EXECUTIVES IN JAIL FOR MISLEADING ADVERTISING, WHATTER THIS DOING WITH OPIOIDS, PAYING DOCTORS TOTO PRESCRIBE. WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYONE WHO IS ON MEDICARE THAT THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICE FOR WHATEVER THE DRUG COSTS HEARE. THEY CAN DO THIS BY MAKING SURE THEY ARE IN A POSITION THAT WE, IN T FACT, ALLOW PEOPLE. >> TIME'S UP. >> WE NEED TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. STICK WITH US. WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS. L STAY WITH US. WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK FROM MIAMI RIGHT AFTER THIS. >>> . >>> WELCOME BACK FROM MIAMI. JOSE WILL LEAD OFF THE QUESTIONING THIS ROUND. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR HARRIS, LAST MONTH MORE THAN 130,000 MIGRANTS WERE APPREHENDED AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. MANY OF THEM ARE BEING DETAINED, INCLUDING SMALL CHILDREN IN PRIVATE DETENTION CENTERS IN FLORIDA AND THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. MOST OF THE CANDIDATES ON THIS STAGE SAY THE CONDITIONS OF THESE FACILITIES ARE ABHORRENT. ON JANUARY 20, 2021, IF YOU ARE PRESIDENT, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD YOU DO WITH THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO TRY TO REACH THE UNITED STATES EVERY DAY AND WANT A BETTER LIFE THROUGH ASYLUM? >> IMMEDIATELY ON JANUARY 20 OF 2021, I WILL FIRST OF ALL -- WE CANNOT FORGET OUR DACA RECIPIENTS. I'M GOING TO STOP THERE. I WILL IMMEDIATELY BY EXECUTIVE ACTION REINSTATE DACA STATUS AND PROTECTION TO THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE. I WILL FURTHER EXTEND PROTECTIONS FOR DEFERRAL OF DEPORTATION FOR THEIR PARENTS AND FOR VETERANS WHO WE HAVE SO MANY UNDOCUMENTED AND WHO HAVE SERVED OUR COUNTRY AND FOUGHT FOR OUR DEMOCRACY. I WILL ALSO IMMEDIATELY PUT IN PLACE A MEANINGFUL PROS FOR REVIEWING THE CASES FOR ASYLUM. I WILL RELEASE CHILDREN FROM CAGES, GET RID OF THE PRIVATE DETENTION CENTERS AND I WILL ENSURE THAT THIS MICROPHONE THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOLDS IN HER HAND IS USED IN A WAY -- [ CHEERS ] -- THAT IS ABOUT RESPECTING THE VALUES OF OUR COUNTRY AND NOT ABOUT LOCKING CHILDREN UP, SEPARATING THEM FROM THEIR PARENTS. I HAVE TO SAY WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE IN TERMS OF REAL PEOPLE. A MOTHER WHO PAYS A COYOTE TO TRANSPORT HER CHILD THROUGH MEXICO FACING UNKNOWN PERIL TO COME HERE, WHY WOULD THAT MOTHER DO THAT? I WILL TELL YOU. BECAUSE TO REMAIN WHERE THEY ARE IS WORSE. WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP DO? HE SAYS GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM. THAT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF OUR AMERICA AND OUR VALUES AND IT'S GOT TO END. >> GOVERNOR HICKENLOOPER, DAY ONE, IF YOU ARE -- DAY ONE AT THE WHITE HOUSE, HOW DO YOU -- >> DEAL WITH THESE CHILDREN? >> LET ME GET TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND. >> I'M SORRY. >> GOVERNOR. DAY ONE? THOUSANDS OF MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN ASK FOR ASYLUM FOR A BETTER LIFE. WHAT DO YOU DO? DAY ONE, HOUR ONE. >> CERTAINLY THE IMAGES WE HAVE SEEN THIS WEEK COMPOUND THE EMOTIONAL IMPACT THE WORLD IS JUDGING US BY. IF YOU TOLD ME AT MY TIME IN MY LIFE THIS COUNTRY WOULD SANCTION FEDERAL AGENTS TO TAKE CHILDREN FROM THE ARMS OF THEIR PARENTS, PUT THEM IN CAGES, PUT THEM UP FOR ADOPTION -- IN COLORADO WE CALL THAT KIDNAPPING. I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. FIRST YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS ON THE BORDER FOR WHAT IT IS. MAKE SURE THERE ARE SUFFICIENT FACILITIES IN PLACE SO WOMEN AND CHILDREN AREN'T SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILIES. THE CHILDREN ARE WITH THEIR FAMILIES. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE I.C.E. IS REFORMED AND THEY BEGIN LOOKING AT THEIR JOB IN A HUMANITARIAN WAY WHERE THEY ARE ADDRESSING THE WHOLE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE ENGAGED WITH ALONG THE BORDER. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE ULTIMATELY WE PROVIDE NOT JUST SHELTER BUT FOOD, CLOTHING AND ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE. MS. WILLIAM SON? >> WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE TO THE CHILDREN AND IT'S NOT JUST COLORADO. IT IS KIDNAPPING. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT. IF YOU TAKE A CHILD FROM THEIR PARENT'S ARMS YOU ARE KIDNAPPING THEM. IF YOU TAKE A LOT OF CHILDREN AND PUT THEM IN A DETAINMENT CENTER THAT INFLICTS TRAUMA UPON THEM. THIS IS COLLECTIVE CHILD ABUSE. BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ARE A CRIME. IF YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES IT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT LESS OF A CRIME. THESE ARE STATE-SPONSORED CRIMES. WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE IS NOT ONLY ATTACKED THESE CHILDREN, NOT ONLY DEMONIZED IMMIGRANTS HE'S ATTACKING A BASIC PRINCIPLE OF AMERICA'S MORALE CORE. WE OPEN OUR HEARTS TO THE STRANGER. THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US AND I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR EVERYONE ON THIS STAGE. WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT HEALTH CARE. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, GUYS? IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF A PLAN. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY ON THIS AND HOW WE MIGHT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SOMETHING -- >> SENATOR GILLIBRAND, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH A PRESIDENT WITH THIS REALITY? >> THIS PRESIDENT HAS TORN APART THE MORAL FABRIC OF WHO WE ARE. WHEN HE STARTED SEPARATING CHILDREN AT THE BORDER FROM THEIR PARENTS. THE FACT THAT SEVEN CHILDREN HAVE DIED IN HIS CUSTODY, THE FACT THAT DOZENS OF CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AND THEY HAVE NO PLAN TO REUNITE THEM, I WOULD DO A FEW THINGS. FIRST I WOULD FIGHT FOR COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM WITH A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP. SECOND, I WOULD REFORM HOW WE TREAT SLIME SEEKERS AT THE BORDER. I WOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY-BASED TREATMENT CENTER WHERE YOU ARE DOING WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE SLIME SEEKERS ARE GIVEN LAWYERS, WHERE THERE IS REAL IMMIGRATION JUDGES, NOT EMPLOYEES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL BUT APPOINTED FOR LIFE AND HAVE A COMMUNITY-BASED SYSTEM. THE WORST THING PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE IS DIVERTED FUNDS AWAY FROM CROSS-BORDER TERRORISM, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, DRUG AND GUN TRAFFICKING AND HE'S GIVEN THE MONEY TO THE FOR PROFIT PRISONS. I WOULD NOT SPEND MONEY ON FOR PROFIT PRISONS TO LOCK UP CHILDREN AND ASYLUM SEEKERS. >> WE HAD A SPIRITED DEBATE ON THE TOPIC OF DECRIMINALIZATION OF THE BORDER. RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE A CIVIL OFFENSE RATHER THAN A CRIME TO CROSS A BORDER WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION? KEEP YOUR HANDS UP SO WE CAN SEE THEM. >> THAT'S NOT A THEORETICAL EXERCISE. CRIMINALZATION IS THE BASIS FOR FAMILY SEPARATION. YOU DO AWAY WITH THAT IT'S NO LONGER POSSIBLE. OF COURSE IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE IN MY PRESIDENCY BECAUSE IT IS DEAD WRONG. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY LIKES TO CLOAK ITSELF IN THE LANGUAGE OF RELIGION. OUR PARTY DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THAT AS MUCH. WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE AND WE STAND FOR PEOPLE OF EVERY RELIGION AND NO RELIGION. WE SHOULD CALL OUT HYPOCRISY WHEN WE SEE IT. FOR A PARTY THAT ASSOCIATES ITSELF WITH CHRISTIANITY, TO SAY THAT IT IS OKAY TO SUGGEST THAT GOD WOULD SMILE ON THE DIVISION OF FAMILIES AT THE HANDS OF FEDERAL AGENTS, THAT GOD WOULD CONDONE PUTTING CHILDREN IN CAGES HAS LOST ALL CLAIM TO EVER USE RELIGIOUS LANGUAGE AGAIN. >> VICE PRESIDENT -- MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RAISED YOUR HAND OR WERE ASKING TO SPEAK. WOULD YOU DECRIMINALIZE CROSSING THE BORDER WITHOUT DOCUMENTS? >> THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS UNITE FAMILIES. I WOULD SURGE IMMEDIATELY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HELP TO THE REGION IMMEDIATELY. LOOK, I TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY. I'M THE GUY THAT GOT A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT AT THE END OF THE CAMPAIGN, OUR TERM TO SPEND $740 MILLION TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM. THAT WAS TO GO TO THE ROOT PROBLEM OF WHY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE SAW A NET DECREASE IN THEM COMING. THE CRISIS WAS ABATED. THIS PRESIDENT DISCONTINUED THAT. I DID IT. SECOND THING WE HAVE TO DO, THE LAW NOW REQUIRES THE REUNITING OF FAMILIES. WE WOULD REUNITE THOSE FAMILIES, PERIOD. IF NOT WE'D PUT CHILDREN IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY WERE SAFE UNTIL WE COULD FIND THEIR PARENTS. LASTLY, THE IDEA THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS SAYING CHILDREN IN CAGES DO NOT NEED A BED, DO NOT NEED A BLANKET, DO NOT NEED A TOOTHBRUSH IS OUTRAGEOUS. >> THE OBAMA/BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DEPORTED MORE THAN 3 MILLION AMERICANS. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WITHOUT DOCUMENTS AND THAT IS HIS ONLY OFFENSE, SHOULD THAT PERSON BE DEPORTED? >> NO. >> DEPENDING IF THEY COMMITTED A MAJOR CRIME. THEY SHOULD BE DEPORTED. PRESIDENT OBAMA, I THINK, DID A HECK OF A JOB. COMPARE HIM TO WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING IS ABSOLUTELY IMMORAL. THE FACT IS THAT, LOOK, WE SHOULD NOT BE LOCKING PEOPLE UP. WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE CHANGE THE CIRCUMSTANCE AS WE DID, WHY THEY WOULD LEAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE. THOSE WHO COME SEEKING ASYLUM, WE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ABSORB THEM, KEEP THEM SAFE UNTIL THEY COULD BE HEARD. >> 15 SECONDS, IF YOU WOULD, TO ANSWER. SHOULD SOMEONE WHO IS HERE WITHOUT DOCUMENTS AND THAT'S HIS ONLY OFFENSE, SHOULD THAT PERSON BE DEPORTED? >> THAT PERSON SHOULD NOT BE THE FOCUS OF DEPORTATION. WE SHOULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE WAY WE DEAL WITH THINGS. >> SENATOR -- >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT -- >> I AGREE WITH WHAT KAMALA HARRIS SAID. ON DAY ONE WE TAKE OUT THE EXECUTIVE ORDER PEN AND RESCIND EVERY DAMN THING ON THE ISSUE THAT TRUMP HAS DONE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> PICKING UP ON A POINT JOE MADE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROOT CAUSES. YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE HONDURAS, AMONG OTHER THINGS IS A -- MASSIVE CORRUPTION. TELLING FAMILIES IF A 10-YEAR-OLD DOESN'T JOIN THE GANG THEIR FAMILY WILL BE KILLED. WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ON DAY ONE IS INVITE THE PRESIDENT AND THE LEADERSHIP OF CENTRAL AMERICA AND MEXICO TOGETHER. THIS IS A HEMISPHERE PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU. >> WHAT DO YOU DO? >> DAY ONE. IF SOMEONE IS HERE WITHOUT DOCUMENTS AND THAT'S THEIR ONLY OFFENSE, IS THAT PERSON TO BE DEPORTED? >> NO. THAT PERSON CAN BE A PART OF THIS GREAT AMERICAN EXPERIENCE. MY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IS ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE IN AMERICA. WE SEE THE BENEFITS WHEN PEOPLE CONTRIBUTE AND BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE NOT IN THE SHADOW ECONOMY. DAY ONE FOR ME, FAMILIES ARE REUNITED. THIS PRESIDENT FOR IMMIGRANTS, THERE IS NOTHING HE WILL NOT DO TO SEPARATE A FAMILY, CAGE A CHILD OR ERASE THEIR EXISTENCE BY WEAPONIZING THE CENSUS. THERE IS NOTHING WE CANNOT DO IN THE COURTS AND THAT I WILL NOT DO AS PRESIDENT TO REVERSE THAT AND TO MAKE SURE FAMILIES ALWAYS BELONG TOGETHER. >> SENATOR HARRIS. >> THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY NOT, THEY SHOULD NOT BE DEPORTED. THIS WAS ONE OF THE VERY FEW ISSUES WITH WHICH I DISAGREED WITH THE ADMINISTRATION WITH WHOM I HAVE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT. I WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA. I LED THE SECOND LARGEST DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN THE UNITED STATES. SECOND ONLY TO THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN A STATE OF 40 MILLION PEOPLE. ON THIS ISSUE, I DISAGREED WITH MY PRESIDENT. THE POLICY WAS TO ALLOW DEPORTATION OF PEOPLE WHO, BY I.C.E.'S OWN DEFINITION WERE NONCRIMINALS. AS ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE CHIEF LAW OFFICER OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, I ISSUED A DIRECTIVE TO THE SHERIFF OF THE STATE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH DETAINERS AND TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY. WHAT I SAW, AND I WAS TRACKING IT EVERY DAY. I WAS TRACKING IT AND SAW THAT PARENTS, PEOPLE WHO HAD NOT COMMITTED A CRIME WERE BEING DEPORTED. I HAVE TO ADD A POINT HERE. THE PROBLEM WITH THIS KIND OF POLICY, AND I KNOW IT AS A PROSECUTOR. >> SENATOR. >> I WANT A RAPE VICTIM TO BE ABLE TO RUN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND WAVE DOWN A POLICE OFFICER AND REPORT THE CRIME AGAINST HER. I WANT ANYBODY -- >> SENATOR. >> -- WHO HAS BEEN THE VICTIM OF A CRIME TO DO THAT AND NOT BE AFRAID THAT IF THEY DO THAT THEY WILL BE DEPORTED BECAUSE THE ACCUSER WILL TELL THEM IT IS THEY WHO ARE THE CRIMINAL. IT IS WRONG. >> WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO THE ISSUE OF TRADE NOW, IF WE CAN. LAST NIGHT WE ASKED THE CANDIDATES ON STAGE TO NAME THE GREATEST GEOPOLITICAL THREAT IN THE U.S. FOUR MENTIONED CHINA. U.S. BUSINESSES SAY CHINA STEALS OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND KEEP THE COST OF GOODS ARTIFICIALLY LOW. SENATOR BENNET, HOW WOULD YOU STAND UP TO CHINA? >> FIRST OF ALL, THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY IS RUSSIA, NOT CHINA. BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE ELECTION. IN CHINA, I THINK THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN RIGHT TO PUSH BACK ON CHINA BUT HAS DONE IT IN COMPLETELY THE WRONG WAY. WE SHOULD MOBILIZE THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD WHO ALL HAVE SHARED SBRENS IN PUSHING BACK ON TRADE POLICIES. I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE AS WELL. >> YOU HAVE THE TIME. >> WHEN I SEE THE KIDS AT THE BORDER, I SEE MY MOM BECAUSE I KNOW SHE SEES HERSELF. SHE WAS SEPARATED FROM HER PARENTS FOR YEARS DURING THE HOLOCAUST IN POLAND. FOR DONALD TRUMP TO DO WHAT HE'S DOING, I SAY IT AS SOMEBODY WHO WROTE THE IMMIGRATION BILL THAT CREATED A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP FOR 11 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAD THE MOST PROGRESSIVE DREAM ACT THAT'S EVER BEEN CONCEIVED, MUCH LESS PASSED. 68 VOTES IN THE SENATE. IT HAD 46 BILLION DOLLARS OF BORDER SECURITY. IT WAS SOPHISTICATED 21st CENTURY BORDER SECURITY, NOT A MEDIEVAL WALL. >> SENATOR, TIME HAS EXPIRED. >> THE BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES INTO A SYMBOL OF HOSTILITY THAT THE WHOLE WORLD IS LOOKING AT WHEN WHAT WE SHOULD BE -- >> SENATOR, THANK YOU. >> -- IS THE STATUE OF LIBERTY WHICH BROUGHT MY PARENTS TO THIS COUNTRY TO BEGIN WITH. WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE. >> MR. YANG, ON THE ISSUE OF CHINA YOU HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND TAKING JOBS. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT CHINA? IF SO, HOW WOULD YOU STAND UP AGAINST IT? >> I WANT TO AGREE THAT I THINK RUSSIA IS OUR GREATEST THREAT. THEY HAVE BEEN HACKING OUR DEMOCRACY SUCCESSFULLY, LAUGHING ABOUT IT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT OTHERS. THE TARIFFS AND THE TRADE WAR ARE PUNISHING BUSINESSES AND PRODUCERS AND WORKERS ON BOTH SIDES. I MET WITH A FARMER IN IOWA WHO SPENT SIX YEARS BUILDING UP A RELATIONSHIP IN CHINA THAT'S DISAPPEARED AND GONE FOREVER. THE BENEFICIARIES HAVEN'T BEEN AMERICAN WORKERS OR PEOPLE IN SOUTHEAST ASIA AND OTHER PRODUCERS THAT STEPPED INTO THE VOID. WE NEED TO CRACK DOWN ON CHINESE MALFEASANCE IN THE TRADE RELATIONSHIP AND THE TARIFFS AND THE TRADE WAR ARE THE WRONG WAY TO GO. >> MAYOR BUTTIGIEG, HOW WOULD YOU STAND UP AGAINST CHINA? >> WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE CHINA CHALLENGE IS A SERIOUS ONE. THIS ISN'T ONE TO DISMISS OR WAVE AWAY. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT CHINA IS DOING, THEY ARE USING TECHNOLOGY FOR THE PERFECTION OF DICTATORSHIP. THEIR FUNDAMENTAL ECONOMIC MODEL WON'T CHANGE BECAUSE OF TARIFFS. FOLKS WHO AREN'T IN THE SHADOW OF A FACTORY OR NEAR A SOY FIELD WHERE I LIVE. MANUFACTURERS AND SOY FARMERS ARE HURTING. AMERICANS PAY $800 MORE A YEAR BECAUSE OF TARIFFS. CHINA IS INVESTING SO THEY COULD SOON RUN CIRCLES AROUND US IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. THIS PRESIDENT IS FIXATED ON THE CHINA RELATIONSHIP AS IF ALL THAT MATTERED WAS THE EXPORT BALANCE ON DISHWASHERS. WE HAVE A BIGGER ISSUE ON OUR HANDS. AT THE MOMENT WHEN THEIR AUTHORITARIAN MODEL IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO OURS BECAUSE OURS IS CHAOS COMPARED TO THEIRS BECAUSE OF OUR INTERNAL DIVISION THE BIG THING WE HAVE TO DO IS INVEST IN OUR OWN DOMESTIC COMPETITIVENESS. IF WE -- >> THANK YOU. >> IN OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, EDUCATION WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO COMPETE. IF WE WANT TO BE A DEMOCRATIC ALTERNATIVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE WE CARE ABOUT DEMOCRATIC VALUES AT HOME AND AROUND THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK. LET ME COME BACK WITH CHUCK TODD AND RACHEL MADDOW. MUCH MORE WITH THE CANDIDATES AHEAD. CHUCK TODD, RACHEL MADDOW WILL BE HERE, MUCH MORE WITH OUR CANDIDATES STRAIGHT AHEAD. 3 F2 (MU >>> WELCOME BACK TO THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES IN MIAMI. >> AS WE CONTINUE THE QUESTIONING WE WANT TO BRING IN MORE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM. >> LET'S GO TO CHUCK TODD AND RACHEL MADDOW. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> RACHEL, I HAD A DREAM THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. >> NO. THIS IS DEFINITELY THE FIRST TIME. >> DEFINITELY. THANK YOU, LESTER, SAVANNAH AND JOSE. LET'S RECAP THE RULES. 20 CANDIDATES QUALIFIED FOR THE FIRST DEBATE. WE HAVE HEARD FROM TEN OF THEM LAST NIGHT. WE HEAR FROM TEN MORE TONIGHT. BREAKDOWN FOR EACH NIGHT WAS SELECTED AT RANDOM. CANDIDATES HAVE 60 SECONDS TO ANSWER DIRECT QUESTIONS, 30 FOR FOLLOW UPS IF NECESSARY. >> BECAUSE OF THE LARGE FIELD, NOT EVERY PERSON CAN BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON EVERYTHING, BUT THE LESS AUDIENCE REACTION THERE IS, THE MORE TIME THEY ALL GET. >> OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT HOUR WE'LL HEAR FROM ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN THIS HOUR WITH MAYOR BUTTIGIEG. IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS HAVE LED A NATIONAL DEBATE OVER RACE AND THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. YOUR COMMUNITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, HAS BEEN IN INDIANA, HAS BEEN REASONSLY IN AN UPROAR OFFER AN OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTING. THE POLICE IN SOUTH DAKOTA BEND IS NOW 6% BLACK IN A CITY THAT'S 26% BLACK. WHY HAS THAT NOT IMPROVED OVER YOUR TWO TERMS AS MAYOR? >> BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET IT DONE. MY COMMUNITY IS IN AND WISH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF AN OFFICER-INVOLVED SHOOTING, A BLACK MAN, ERIC LOGAN, KILLED BY A WHITE OFFICER. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE SIDES UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION COMES BACK. THE OFFICER SAYS HE WAS ATTACKED AND HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS BODY CAMERA ON. WE'RE HURTING. I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE AS A COMMUNITY, ALL OF THE STEPS THAT WE'VE TOOK FROM BIAS TRAINING TO DE-ESCALATION BUT IT DIDN'T SAVE THE LIFE OF ERIC LOGAN, AND WHEN I LOOK INTO HIS MOTHER'S EYES, I HAVE TO FACE THE FACT AND NOTHING THAT I SAY WILL BRING HIM BACK. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS FACING OUR COMMUNITY AND SO MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND UNTIL WE MOVE POLITICIAN OUT FROM THE SHADOW OF SYSTEMIC RACISM, WHATEVER THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT TEACHES US, WE'LL LEFT WITH A BIGGER PROBLEM OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S A WALL OF MISTRUST, PUT UP ONE RACIST ACT AT A TIME, NOT JUST WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY IN THE PRESENT. IT'S THREATENED THE WELL-BEING OF EVERY COMMUNITY AND I'M DETERMINE TO BRING ABOUT A DAY WHEN A WHITE PERSON DRIVING A VEHICLE AND A BLACK PERSON DRIVING A VEHICLE, WHEN THEY SEE A POLICE OFFICER FEEL THE EXACT SAME THING, A FEELING OF SAFETY NOT FEAR. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. >> IF I COULD ASK YOU ONE QUESTION. >> I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS. >> THE QUESTION THAT THEY ARE ASKING IN SOUTH BEND AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS WHY HAS IT TAKEN SO LONG? WE HAD A SHOOTING WHEN I FIRST BECAME MAYOR, STEP YEARS BEFORE FERGUSON AND THE COMMUNITY GAME TOGETHER AND WE CREATED AN OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AND DIVERSEIFIED POLICE FORCE IN TWO YEARS AND DID DE-ESCALATION TRAINING. I THINK THE REAL QUESTION THAT AMERICA IS ASKING IS WHY FIVE YEARS AFTER FERGUSON EVERY CITY DOESN'T HAVE THIS LEVEL OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY? >> GOVERNOR HICKENLOOPER. >> I'VE GOT TO RESPOND TO THAT. >> LOOK, WE'VE TAKEN THAT MANY STEPS TOWARDS POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THE SOP JUST SAID THERE'S TOO MUCH ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT THERE YET AND I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY. SO UNDER INDIANA LAW THIS WILL BE INVESTIGATED, AND THERE WILL BE ACCOUNTABILITY INVOLVED. >> IF YOU'RE THE MAYOR FIRE THE CHIEF. IF THAT'S THE POLICY WHEN SUN DIES. >> ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. THEY ARE SYMPTOMS AND THE UNDERLYING CAUSE HAS TO DO WITH DEEP, DEEP GROUNDS OF RACIAL INJUSTICE AND IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND ECONOMIC SYSTEM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD ON THE SIDE OF REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY FOR THIS VERY REASON. I DO NOT BELIEVE -- I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN IS A RACIST, BUT AVERAGE AMERICAN IS WILLFULLY UNDEREDUCATED ABOUT THE HISTORY RACE IN THE UNITED STATES. >> I'M GOING -- WE'RE GOING TO GET TO YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF RATS. >> SENATOR HAITIAN AND WHAT I WOULD SAY -- WE'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THIS IN A MOMENT. GO FOR 30 SECONDS. >> OKAY. SO ON THE ISSUE OF RACE I COULDN'T AGREE MORE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS STILL NOT BEING TALKED ABOUT TRUTHFULLY AND HONESTLY. THERE'S NOT A BLACK MAN I KNOW BEY HAD A RELATIVE, A FRIEND OR CO-WALKER WHO HAS NOT BEEN THE SUBJECT OF SOME SORT OF PROFILING OR DISCRIMINATION. GROWING UP MY SISTER AND I HAD TO DEAL WITH THE NEIGHBOR WHO TELL US SHE COULDN'T PLAY WITH US BECAUSE WE WERE BLACK AND I WOULD SAY ALSO THAT EVEN IN THIS CAMPAIGN WE'VE ALSO HEARD, AND I'M GOING TO NOW DIRECT THIS AT VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU HAD A RACIST, AND I AGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU COMMIT YOURSELF TO THE IMPORTANCE OF FINDING COMMON GROUND, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE, AND IT'S PERSONAL, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY HURTFUL, TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THE REPUTATIONS OF TWO UNITED STATES SENATORS WHO BUILT THEIR REPUTATION AND CAREER ON SEGREGATION OF RACE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND IT WAS NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU ALSO WORKED WITH THEM TO OPPOSE BUSING, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LITTLE GIRL IN CALIFORNIA WHO WAS PART OF THE SECOND CLASS TO INTEGRATE INTO PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SHE WAS BUSSED TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY, AND THAT LITTLE GIRL WAS ME SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT ON THIS SUBJECT IT CANNOT BE AN INTELLECTUAL DEBATE AMONG DEMOCRATS. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE TO ACT SWIFTLY. AS ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA I WAS VERY PROUD TO PUT IN PLACE A REQUIREMENT THAT ALL MY SPECIALATES WOULD WEAR BODY CAMERAS AND KEEP THOSE CAMERAS ON. >> SENATOR HARRIS, THANK YOU. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOU HAVE BEEN INVOKED. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN. >> THAT'S THE A MISCHARACTERIZATION OF POSITION ACROSS THE BOARD. I DO NOT PARADES RACIST, THAT'S NOT NUMBER NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IF WE WANT TO HAVE THIS CAMPAIGN LITIGATED ON WHO SUPPORTS CIVIL RIGHTS I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. I WAS A PUBLIC DEFENDER. I DIDN'T BECOME A PROSECUTOR. I CAME OUT AND LEFT A GOOD LAW FIRM TO BECOME A PUBLIC DEFENDER. WHEN IN FACT -- WHEN IN FACT -- WHEN IN FACT MY CITY WAS ENSLAVED BECAUSE OF THE ASSASSINATION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, NUMBER UP WITH. NUMBER TWO, AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES I WORKED WITH A MAN WHO IN FACT WE WORKED VERY HARD TO SEE TO IT, THAT WE DEALT WITH THESE ISSUES IN A MAJOR MAJOR WAY. THE FACT IS THAT IN TERMS OF BHUSING, THE BUSING -- YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL THE SAME EXACT WAY BECAUSE IT WAS A LOCAL DECISION MADE BY YOUR CITY COUNCIL. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS ARGUED FOR THAT WE SHOULD BE BREAKING DOWN THESE LINES, SO THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS, LOOK, EVERYTHING I'VE COMMON MY CAREER, I RAN BECAUSE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, I CONTINUE TO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES IN CIVIL RIGHTS AND THOSE CIVIL RIGHTS INCLUDE NOT ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS BUT LBGTQ COMMUNITY. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, DO YOU AGREE TODAY -- DO YOU AGREE TODAY THAT YOU WERE WRONG TO OPPOSE BUSING IN AMERICA THEN? >> NO. >> DO YOU AGREE? >> I DID NOT OPPOSE BUSSING IN AMERICA. WHAT I OPPOSED WAS BUGS ORDERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. THAT'S WHAT I OPPOSED. I DID NOT OPPOSE -- >> IT'S A FAIL YOU'RE STATES TO -- I WAS PART OF THE SECOND CLASS TO INTEGRATE BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALMOST TWO DECADES AFTER BROWN V. BOARD OF EDUCATION. >> BECAUSE YOUR CITY COUNCIL MADE THAT DECISION. >> SO THAT'S WHY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MUST STEP IN. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO PASS THE EQUALITY ACT AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO PASS THE ERA BECAUSE THERE ARE MOMENTS IN HISTORY IN WHICH STATES FAIL TO PRESERVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE. >> I'VE SPOTTED THE E.R.A. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. >> 0 SECONDS. >> I WANT TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE INTO THIS. >> I SUPPORTED THE E.R.A. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. I'M THE GUY WHO EXTENDED THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT FOR 25 YEARS. WE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE WE GOT 98 OUT OF 92 VOTES IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE DOING IT. I'VE ALSO ARGUED VERY STRONGLY THAT WE IN FACT DEAL WITH THE NOTION OF DENYING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE BALLOT BOX. I AGREED THAT EVERYBODY WANTS -- ANYWAY. MY TIME IS UP, I'M SORRY. >> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT. >> ALL OF THESE THINGS -- >> SENATOR SANDERS, I'M GOING TO GO. YOU SAID ON THE DAY YOU LAUNCHED YOUR CAMPAIGN THAT VOTERS SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT PEOPLE STAND FOR, NOT A CANDIDATE'S RACE OR AGE OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. MANY DEMOCRATS ARE VERY EXCITED BY THE DIVERSITY OF THIS FIELD, ON THIS STAGE AND ON LAST NIGHT'S STAGE AND THE PROSPECTIVE THAT DIVERSITY BRINGS TO THE CONTEST AND TO THESE ISSUES. ARE YOU TELLING DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT DIVERSITY SHOULDN'T MATTER WHEN THEY MAKE THIS DECISION? >> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. UNLIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WE ENCOURAGE DIVERSITY. WE BELIEVE IN DIVERSITY. THAT'S WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT, BUT IN ADDITION TO THE DIVERSITY. IN TERMS OF HAVING MORE WOMEN, MORE PEOPLE FROM THE LBGT COMMUNITY, WE ALSO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, AND THAT IS WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES A SIMPLE QUESTION, AND THAT'S HOW COME TODAY THE WORKER IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR ECONOMY IS MAKING NO MORE MONEY THAN HE OR SHE MADE 45 YEARS AGO AND THAT IN THE LAST 30 YEARS THE TOP 1% HAS SEEN A $21 TRILLION INCREASE IN THEIR WEALTH. WE NEED A PARTY THAT'S DIVERSE AND WE NEED A PARTY THAT HAS THE GUTS TO STAND UP TO THE POWERFUL SPECIAL INTERESTS WHO HAVE SO MUCH POWER OVER THE ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL LIFE OF THIS COUNTRY. >> SENATOR GILL BRAND, I WANT TO GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS. >> FIRST OFF, WHERE BERNIE LEFT OFF. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS ON THIS STAGE TONIGHT AND A LOT OF PLANS, BUT THE TRUTH IS THE UNTIL YOU GO TO THE ROOT OF THE CORRUPTION, THE MONEY IN POLITICS, THE FACT THAT WASHINGTON IS RUN BY THE SPECIAL INTERESTS, YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO SOLVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS. I HAVE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH THAT EXPERTS BELIEVE IS THE MOST TRANSFORMATIVE PLAN TO ACTUALLY TAKE ON POLITICAL CORRUPTION, TO GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS TO PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS AND HAVE CLEAN ELECTIONS. IF WE DO THAT AND GET MONEY OUT OF HEALTHCARE, WE CAN HAVE HEALTHCARE AND TAKE ON INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND TAKE ON THE CORPORATE -- >> THE FIRST CONGRESSMAN TO DO THAT WAS ME WHEN I WAS A YOUNG CONGRESSMAN. >> ON THE ISSUE OF PARTISAN GRIDLOCK. PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID AFTER HIS ELECTION PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO WORK WITH REPUBLICANS AND NOW VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN IS SAYING THE SAME THING, THAT IF HE'S ELECTED IN 2020 BOTH PARTIES WILL WANT TO WORK TOGETHER. SHOULD VOTERS BELIEVE THAT SOMEHOW IF THERE'S A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN 2021 THAT GRIDLOCK IS GOING TO MAGICALLY DISSIPATE? >> GRIDLOCK WILL NOT MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR AS LONG AS MITCH McCONNELL IS THERE FIRST. SECOND, SECOND, THAT'S WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO WIN NOT JUST THE PRESIDENCY, TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN RUN IN ALL 50 STATES, BUT TO -- BUT TO WIN THE SENATE AS WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO PROPOSE POLICIES THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED LIKE MEDICARE "X" SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A BROAD COALITION OF AMERICANS TO OVERCOME BROKEN WASHINGTON, D.C. I AGREE WITH WHAT SENATOR GILLIBRAND WAS SAYING AND SHARE A LOT OF HER VIEWS. WE NEED TO END GERRYMANDERING IN WASHINGTON AND WE NEED TO END POLITICAL GERRYMANDERING IN WASHINGTON. THE COURT TODAY SAID THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO OVERTURN CITIZENS UNIT. THE COURT WAS THE ONE THAT GAVE US CITIZENS UNITED, AND THE ATTACK ON INVESTIGATE RIGHTS IN SHELBY VERSUS HOMER IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED SINCE VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS IN THE SENATE, AND WE'VE FACED STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TO OVERCOME WITH A BROAD COALITION. IT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT. WE NEED TO ROOT OUT THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON AND EXPAND PEOPLE'S RIGHTS TO GET TO POLLS AND I THINK THAT WE CAN SUCCEED. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, 30 SECONDS. WHAT -- IT DOES SOUND AS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN, WHY? >> I HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED. JUST SINCE I WAS VICE PRESIDENT. WE NEEDED THREE VOTES TO PASS AN $800 BILLION RECOVERY ACT THAT KEPT US FROM GOING INTO A DEPRESSION. I GOT THREE VOTES CHANGED. WE NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT FROM SHUTTING DOWN AND GOING BANKRUPT. I GOT MITCH McCONNELL TO RAISE TAXES $600 BILLION BY RAISING THE TOP RATE, AND AS RECENTLY AFTER THE PRESIDENT GOT ELECTED I WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER A COALITION THAT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS GO INTO CANCER RESEARCH, BIPARTISAN, BUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO GO OUT AND BEAT THEM. I WENT INTO 20 STATES, OVER 60 CANDIDATES AND GUESS WHAT, WE BEAT THEM. WE WON BACK THE SENATE. >> THANK YOU. >> CHUCK, THE PROBLEM WITH WHAT THE VICE PRESIDENT -- >> 30 SECONDS, GO AHEAD. >> SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE TO BEAT THEM, BUT THE DEAL THAT HE TALKED ABOUT WITH MITCH McCONNELL WAS A COMPLETE VICTORY FOR THE TEA PARTY. IT EXTENDED THE BUSH TAX CUTS PERMANENTLY. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BEEN RUNNING AGAINST THAT FOR TEN YEARS. WE'VE LOST THAT ECONOMIC ARGUMENT BECAUSE THAT DEAL EXTEND ALMOST ALL THE BUSH TAX CUTS PERMANENTLY AND PUT IN PLACE THE MINDLESS CUTS THAT WE STILL ARE DEALING WITH TODAY THAT ARE CALLED THE SEQUESTER. THAT WAS A GREAT DEAL FOR MR. McCONNELL AND A TERRIBLE DEAL FOR AMERICA. >> THE REASON THE TRUMP TAX CUTS WERE PASSED BECAUSE THEY HAD TO PAY BACK THE OWNERS, YOU HEARD THEM SAY THE WORDS. THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON IS REAL AND MAKES EVERY ONE OF THE PLANS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS IMPOSSIBLE AND I HAVE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO DO IT WITH CLEAN ELECTIONS, PUBLICLY FUND ELECTIONS. WE RESTORE THE POWER OF DEMOCRACY INTO THE HANDS OF THE VOTERS, NOT INTO THE KOCH BROTHERS. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES. WE'RE IN FLORIDA, IMAGINE THE PARKLAND KIDS HAVING AS MUCH POWER IN OUR DEMOCRACY AS THE KOCH BROTHERS OR THE NRA. IMAGINE THEIR VOICES ARE CARRYING FARTHER AND WIDER THAN ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE THEIR VOICE IS NEEDED. >> SENATOR GILLIBRAND. THANK YOU. >> NOTHING ELSE IS POSSIBLE WHETHER IT'S EDUCATION OR HEALTHCARE. >> I'D LIKE TO PUT A DIFFERENT QUESTION TO YOU. "ROE V. WADE" HAS BEEN THE LAW OF THE LAND SINCE 1973. NOW THAT THERE IS A CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY ON THE SUPREME COURT SEVERAL REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED STATES HAVE PASSED LAWS TO SEVERELY RESTRICT OR BAN ABORTION. ONE OF THOSE LAWS DO VERY WELL MAKE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT DURING YOUR PRESIDENCY IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN IF "ROE" IS STRUCK DOWN WHILE YOU'RE IN PRESIDENT. >> MY PLAN AS SOMEBODY WHO BELIEVES FOR A START THAT A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CONTROL HER OWN BODY IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS SHOULD NOT INFRINGE ON THAT RIGHT. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DEFEND "ROE V. WADE." SECOND OF ALL, LET ME MAKE -- LET ME MAKE -- LET ME MAKE A PROMISE HERE. YOU ASKED ABOUT LITMUS TEST. MY LITMUS TEST IS I WILL NEVER APPOINT ANY NOMINATION -- NOMINATE ANY JUSTICE TO THE SUPREME COURT UNLESS I THOUGHT IT WAS 100% CLEAR THAT WE OR SHE WOULD DEFEND "ROE V. WADE." THIRD OF ALL, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN PACKING THE COURT. WE GOT A TERRIBLE 5-4 MAJORITY, CONSERVATIVE COURT RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT CONSTITUTIONALLY WE HAVE THE POWER TO ROTATE JUDGES TO OTHER COURT, AND THAT BRINGS THE NEW BLOOD INTO THE SUPREME COURT AND A MAJORITY I HOPE THAT WILL UNDERSTAND THAT A WOMAN HAS THE RIGHT TO CONTROL HER OWN BODY AND THAT CORPORATIONS CANNOT RUN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >> HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU TEN ADDITIONAL SECONDS. >> THE QUESTION IS WHAT IF THE COURT HAS ALREADY OVERTURNED ROE AND IT'S GONE. ALL OF THE THINGS YOU JUST DESCRIBED WOULD BE TRY TO PRESERVE IT. IF ROE IS GONE WHAT WILL YOU DO AS PRESIDENT? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME TELL YOU THIS. IT DIDN'T COME UP. MEDICARE FOR ALL GUARANTEES EVERY WOMAN IN THIS COUNTRY THE RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION IF SHE WANTS IT. >> THANK YOU, SENATOR. >> CAN I JUST ADDRESS THIS FOR A SECOND, AND I WANT TO TALK DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY TO AMERICA'S WOMEN AND TO MEN WHO LOVE THEM. WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE UNDER ASSAULT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. 30 STATES ARE TRYING TO OVERTURN "ROE V. WADE" RIGHT NOW, AND IT IS MIND BOGGLING TO ME THAT WE ARE DEBATING THIS ON THIS STAGE IN 2019 AMONG DEMOCRATS WHETHER WOMEN SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. I THINK WE HAVE TO STOP PLAYING DEFENSE AND START PLAYING OFFENSE, BUT LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT POLITICS BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE CRUX OF THE DEAL-MAKE. WHEN THE DOORS CLOSE AND THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE MADE, THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND COMPROMISES HAVE BEEN MADE ON OUR BOOKS, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO HYDE, THAT'S HOW THE HYDE AMENDMENT WAS CREATED, A COMPROMISE BY LEADERS OF BOTH PARTIES. THEN VERY WITH THE ACA. DURING THE ACA NEGOTIATION, I HAD TO FIGHT LIKE HECK WITH OTHER WOMEN TO MAKE SURE THAT CONTRACEPTION WASN'T SOLD DOWN THE RIVER OR ABORTION SERVICES ARE AND SOY WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS IMAGINE THIS ONE QUESTION, WHEN WE BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND MITCH McCONNELL WALKS INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, GOD FORBID TO DO NEGOTIATIONS, WHO DO YOU WANT WHEN THAT DOOR CLOSES SITTING BEHIND THAT DESK TO FIGHT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS? I'VE BEEN THE FIERCEST ADVOCATE FOR OVER A DECADE. >> THANK YOU. >> AND I PROMISE WHEN THAT DOOR CLOSES I'LL GUARANTEE WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS NO MATTER WHAT. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE'RE MOVING TO CLIMATE, GUYS. SENATOR HARRIS, I'M ADDRESS YOU FIRST. YOU LIVE IN A STATE THAT'S BEEN HIT BY DROUGHT, WILDFIRES, FLOODING, CLIMATE CHANGE IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR YOUR STATE, PRETTY OBVIOUS. LAST NIGHT VOTERS HEARD MANY OF THE CANDIDATES WEIGH IN ON THEIR PROPOSALS. EXPLAIN SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOURS IS. >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T EVEN CALL IT CLIMATE CHANGE. IT'S A CLIMATE CRISIS T.REPRESENTS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO US AS A SPECIES, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO HAS EMBRACED SCIENCE PHIL MICKELSON OVER FACT WILL BE TO OUR COLLECTIVE PERIL. I VISITED WHILE THE EMBERS WERE SMOULDERING THE WILDFIRES IN CALIFORNIA. I SPOKE WITH FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE IN THE MIDST OF FIGHTING A FIRE WHILE THEIR OWN HOMES WERE BURNING, AND ON THIS ISSUE IT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT IS ABOUT WHAT WE MUST DO TO CONFRONT WHAT IS IMMEDIATE AND BEFORE US RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT A GREEN NEW DEAL. IT'S WHY I BELIEVE ON DAY ONE AND AS PRESIDENT WE'LL RE-ENTER US INTO THE PARIS AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TAKE THESE ISSUES SERIOUSLY, AND FRANKLY VERY A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. WE TALKED ABOUT -- YOU ASKED BEFORE WHAT IS THE GREATEST NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES IT'S DONALD TRUMP, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WHY AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, WHY BECAUSE I AGREE CLIMATE CHANGE REPRESENTS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT. HE DENIES THE SCIENCE. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NORTH KOREA. REAL THREAT IN TERMS OF NUCLEAR ARSENAL, BUT WHAT DOES HE DO? HE EMBRACES KIM JONG-UN, A DICTATOR FOR THE SAKE OF A PHOTO OP, PUTIN, YOU WANT TO TALK -- >> I WANT TO STICK TO CLIMATE. >> HE TAKES THE WORD OVER THE AMERICAN JENS COMMUNITY WHEN IT TOMS TO A TOO THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR ELECTION. THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE US, CHUCK. >> I HEAR YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR HARRIS. MAYOR BUTTIGIEG, IN YOUR CLIMATE PLAN IF USUAL ELECTED PRESIDENT IN YOUR FIRST TERM HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP FARMERS IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE MIDWEST? >> WELL, THE REALITY IS WE NEED TO BEGIN ADAPTING RIGHT AWAY BUT WE ALSO CAN'T SKIP A BEAT ON PREVENTING CLIMATE CHANGE FROM GETTING EVEN WORSE. THAT'S WHY WE NEED AGGRESSIVE AND AMBITIOUS MEASURES. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO DO A CARBON TAX AND DIVIDEND, BUT I WOULD PROPOSE WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S REBATED OUT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN A PROGRESSIVE FASHION SO THAT MOST AMERICANS ARE MADE MORE THAN WHOLE. THIS ISN'T THEORETICAL FOR US IN SOUTH BEND EITHER. PARTS OF CALIFORNIA ON FIRE. RIGHT HERE IN FLORIDA THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SHE LEVEL RISE. I HAD TO ENACT THE EMERGENCY MEASURES IN OUR CITY, THE FIRST WAS A THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD AND THE NEXT WAS A 500-YEAR FLOOD. THIS IS NOT JUST HAPPENING ON THE ARCTIC ICE CAPS. THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY AND WE'VE GOT TO BE DRAMATICALLY MORE AGGRESSIVE MOVING FORWARD. HERE'S WHAT VERY FEW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT. FIRST OF ALL, RURAL AMERICA CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION INSTEAD OF BEING TOLD THEY ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF SOIL MANAGEMENT RURAL MANAGEMENT COULD BE A HUGE PART OF HOW WE GET THIS DONE AND SECONDLY WE'VE GOT TO LOOK TO THE LEADERSHIP OF LOCAL COMMUNITIES. THE NETWORKS AND MAYORS AND CITIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT COME TOGETHER. WE NEED TO HAVE A SUMMIT WHERE WE BRING THEM TOGETHER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR BUTTIGIEG. >> I WANT TO BRING GOVERNOR HICKENLOOPER IN. YOU'VE SAID THAT OIL AND GAS COMPANIES SHOULD BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE. LOTS OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ON STAGE HAVE TALKED ABOUT MOVING AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS ENTIRELY. CAN OIL AND GAS COMPANIES BE REAL PARTNERS IN THIS FIGHT? >> WELL, I SHARE THE SENSE OF URGENCY. I'M A SCIENTIST SO I -- I RECOGNIZE THAT IN SO OR 12 YEARS OF ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SUFFERING IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE, BUT, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEEING EVERYBODY A GOVERNMENT JOB IS NOT GOING TO GET US THERE. SOCIALISM IN THAT SENSE IS NOT THE SOLUTION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT REALLY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IN COLORADO WE'VE CLOSED A COUPLE OF COOL PLANTS AND REPLACED THEM WITH SOLAR AND WIND AND BATTERY AND MONTHLY BILLS HAVE GONE DOWN. WE'RE BUILDING A NETWORK FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY, AND WE'VE CREATED THE FIRST METHANE REGULATIONS IN THE COUNTRY. METHANE IS 25 TIMES WORSE THAN CO2 AND THEN WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE LAST PART, THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIES, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE PLANS YET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE REAL PROBLEMS, CO2, THE WORST POLLUTERS OF CO2 IS CHINA, THE UNITED STATES AND CONCRETE AND EXHALATION AND BEYOND THAT ONLY BY BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, BUSES AND NON-PROFITS, WE CAN'T DEMONIZE EVERY BUSINESS. WE WE'VE GO TO BRING THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IFFY WITH EAR NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WE'LL DOOMED FAILURE. WE HAVE NO WAY OF DOING THIS WITHOUT BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, ON THE ISSUE OF HOW YOU DO THIS, DEMOCRATS ARE ARGUING ROBUSTLY AMONG THEMSELVES ABOUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE, BUT IF WE'RE HONEST MANY REAP WARNINGS INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT, ARE STILL NOT SURE IF THEY BELIEVE IT'S EVEN A SERIOUS APPROXIMATE SO ARE THERE SIGNIFICANT WAYS YOU CAN CUT CARBON EMISSIONS IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH NO SUPPORT FROM CONGRESS? >> THE ANSWER IS YES. NUMBER ONE, WHEN OUR ADMINISTRATION, WE BUILT THE LARGEST WIND FARM IN THE WORLD, THE LARGEST SOLAR ENERGY FACILITY IN THE WORLD. WE DROVE DOWN THE PRICE, COMPETITIVE PRICE OF BOAST THOSE RENEWABLE SOURCES. I WOULD IMMEDIATELY INSIST THAT WE IN FACT BUILD 500,000 RECHARGING STATIONS THROUGHOUT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WORKING WITH GOVERNORS, MAYORS AND OTHERS SO THAT WE CAN GO TO A FULL ELECTRIC VEHICLE FUTURE BY THE YEAR 2030. WOULD I MAKE SURE THAT WE INVESTED $400 MILLION IN NEW SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY TO BE THE EXPORTER NOT ONLY OF THE GREEN ECONOMY BUT AN ECONOMY THAT CAN CREATE MILLIONS OF JOBS, BUT I WOULD IMMEDIATELY JOIN THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD. I WOULD UP THE ANTE IN THAT ACCORD WHICH IT CALLS FOR BECAUSE WE MAKE UP 15% OF THE PROBLEM. 85% OF THE WORLD MAKES UP THE REST, AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO CORRAL THE REST WORLD, BRING THEM TOGETHER AND GET SOMETHING DONE IN OUR ADMINISTRATION. >> I WANT TO GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO FOLLOW UP AND I'M GOING TO HOLD TO YOU 30. >> THE OLD WAYS ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT. THE SCIENTISTS TELL US WE HAVE 12 YEARS BEFORE THERE'S IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO THIS PLANET. THIS IS A GLOBAL ISSUE. WHAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SHOULD DO IS NOT DENY THE REALITY OF CLIMATE CHANGE BUT TELL THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT INSTEAD OF SPENDING A TRILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS ON WE OFFENSE DESTRUCTION LET US GET TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON ENERGY AND THAT'S TO TRANSFORM THE WORLD'S ENERGY SYSTEM AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUEL TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. >> THANK YOU. >> THE FUTURE OF THE PLANET RESTS ON US DOING THAT. >> BEFORE WE GO. HANG ON. >> BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS TOPIC. >> LISTEN, PASS THE TORCH. PASS THE TORCH TO THE GENERATION THAT GOING TO FEEL THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. >> BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS TOPIC, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL WANT TO WEIGH IN ON. HOLD ONE MOMENT. >> JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A YOUNGER BODY DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE OLD IDEAS. >> JOHN KENNEDY -- JOHN KENNEDY DID NOT SAY I HAVE A PLAN TO GET A MAN TO THE MOON AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND I THINK WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND MAYBE WE'LL GET A MAN ON THE MOON. JOHN KENNEDY SAID BY THE END OF THIS DECADE WE ARE GOING TO PUT A MAN ON THE MOON BECAUSE JOHN KENNEDY WAS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN POLITICS INCLUDED THE PEOPLE AND INCLUDED IMAGINATION AND INCLUDED GREAT DREAMS AND INCLUDED GREAT PLANS AND I HAVE HAD A CAREER NOT MAKE MAKING THE POLITICAL PLAN BUT I'VE HAD A CAREER HARNESSING THE INSPIRATION AND MOTIVATION AND EXCITEMENT OF PEOPLE. MASSES OF PEOPLE. WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO TURN FROM A DIRTY ECONOMY TO A CLEAN ECONOMY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREEN NEW DEAL, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE MILLIONS OF JOBS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WITHIN THE NEXT 12 YEARS BECAUSE I'M NOT INTERESTED IN JUST WINNING THE NEXT ELECTION. WE ARE INTERESTED IN OUR GRANDCHILDREN. >> WE'RE GOING SNEAK IN A BREAK IN A MINUTE BUT BEFORE WE GO I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE HERE AND I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE FOR ONE OR TWO WORDS ONLY, ALL RIGHT, PLEASE. THE. >> REALLY. >> PRESIDENT OBAMA IN HIS FIRST YEAR WANTED TO ADDRESS BOTH HEALTHCARE AND CLIMATE AND ONLY GET ONE SIGNATURE ISSUE ACCOMPLISHED HEALTHCARE. HE DIDN'T GET TO DO CLIMATE CHANGE. YOU MAY GET ONE SHOT AND THE FIRST ISSUE YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH. YOU GET ONE SHOT THAT IT MAY BE THE ONLY THING YOU GET PASSED. WHAT IS THAT FIRST ISSUE FOR YOUR PRESIDENCY, ERIC SWALWELL, YOU'RE FIRST? >> FOR PARKLAND AND EVERY COMMUNITY AFFECTED BY GUN VIOLENCE, ENDING GUN VIOLENCE. >> SENATOR BEN. >> CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE LACK OF ECONOMIC MOBILITY BERNIE TALKS ABOUT. >> SENATOR GILLIBRAND. >> PASSING A FAMILY BILL OF RIGHTS THAT INCLUDES A NATIONAL PAID LEAVE PLAN, UNIVERSAL PRE-K, AFFORDABLE DAY CARE AND MAKING SURE THAT WOMEN AND FAMILIES CAN THRIVE IN THE WORKPLACE NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE. >> OH, I LIKE THAT. >> SENATOR HARRIS, PASSING A MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING FAMILY TAX CUT, DACA, GUNS. >> I'LL GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THE FIRST THING YOU SAID. >> SENATOR SANDERS, ONLY ONE OR TWO ISSUES OUT THERE. >> I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ONE OR TWO. >> SENATOR SANDERS. >> YOU NEED A POLITICAL REVOLUTION. PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO STAND UP AND TAKE ON THE SPECIAL INTERESTS. WE CAN TRANSFORM THIS COUNTRY. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, YOUR FIRST ISSUE, MR. VICE PRESIDENT. >> I THINK YOU'RE SO UNDERESTIMATING WHAT BARACK OBAMA DID. HE'S THE FIRST MAN TO BRING TOGETHER THE ENTIRE WORLD, 196 NATIONS TO COMMIT TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. I DON'T BUY THAT. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP. >> OKAY. >> PERIOD. >> MAYOR BUTTIGIEG, YOUR FIRST PRIORITY, YOUR FIRST ISSUE AS PRESIDENT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BLOCK AND TACKLE. >> FIX OUR DEMOCRACY BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. GET THAT RIGHT, CLIMATE, IMMIGRATION, TAXES AND EVERY OTHER ISSUE GETS BETTER. >> YANG. >> I WOULD PASS A $1,000 FREEDOM DIFFIDENT FOR EVERY AMERICAN ADULT WHICH WOULD SPEED US UP ON CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE IF YOU GET THE BOOT OFF PEOPLE'S THROATS THEY WILL FOCUS ON CLIMATE CHANGE. >> GOVERNOR HICKENLOOPER. >> I WOULD DO A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND I WOULD PRONOUNCE IT WELL BEFORE THE ETHEROUX MAKE SURE WE DON'T RE-ELECT THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. >> AND MISS WILLIAMSON. >> MY FIRST CALL IS TO THE PRIME MINISTER OF NEW ZEALAND TO MAKE THE PLACE THAT NEW ZEALAND IS THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD FOR A CHILD TO GROIN AND I WILL SAY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS GOING TO BE THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD FOR A CHILD TO GROW UP. WE ARE GOING -- >> THANK YOU. YOU GRICE CLOSE -- AT LEAST IT WAS SHORTER RESPONSES. >> NOT AT ALL. >> B-MINUS. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND BE RIGHT BACK WITH THESE CANDIDATES RIGHT AFTER THIS. K WITH THESE CANDIDATES RIGHT AFTER THIS. >>> WELCOME BACK TO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES DEBATE IN MIAMI. WELL EAR GOING TO CONTINUE THE QUESTIONING NOW WITH THE AUDIENCE. WE ARE? WE ARE IN A SECOND GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE BUT THAT WAS JUST A FAKE-OUT. >> GO AHEAD. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE ISSUE OF GUNS. >> CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL, YOU HAVE YOU A UNIQUE POSITION ON GUN REFORM. YOU'RE PROPOSE THE GUN SHOULD BUY BACK EVERY ASSAULT WEAPON IN AMERICA AND IT SHOULD BE MANNED TRIP. HOW DO YOU ENVISION THAT WORKING ESPECIALLY IN STATES WHERE GUN RIGHTS ARE A STRONG PLATFORM? >> KEEP YOUR PISTOLS, YOUR RIFLES, YOUR SHOTGUNS BUT WE CAN TAKE THE MOST DANGEROUS WEAPONS FROM THE MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE. WE HAVE THE NRA ON THE ROPES BECAUSE OF THE MOMS, BECAUSE OF THE BRADY GROUP, BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT -- BECAUSE OF MARCH FOR OUR LIFE, BUT I'M ONLY CANDIDATE ON THIS STAGE CALLING FOR A BAN AND BUYBACK OF EVERY SINGLE ASSAULT WEAPON IN MERGE I'VE SEEN THE PLANS OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES HERE. THEY WOULD ALL LEAVE 15 MILLION ASSAULT WEAPONS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WOULDN'T DO A SINGLE THING TO SAVE A SINGLE LIFE IN PARKLAND. I'LL APPROACH THIS ISSUE AS A PROSECUTOR. I'LL APPROACH IT AS THE ONLY PERSON ON THE STAGE WHO HAS VOTED AND PASSED BACKGROUND CHECKS BUT ALSO AS A PARENT OF A GENERATION WHO SENDS OUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AND WE LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE WEARING, SO WE CAN REMEMBER IT IN CASE WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEM LATER. A GENERATION WHO HAS SEEN THOUSAND OF BLACK CHILDREN KILLED IN OUR STREETS AND A GENERATION WHO GOES TO THE THEATER AND WE ACTUALLY LOOK WHERE THE FIRE EXITS ARE. WE DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THIS WAY. WE MUST BE A COUNTRY WHO LOVES OUR CHILDREN MORE THAN WE LOVE OUR GUNS. >> SENATOR SANDERS, A VERMONT NEWSPAPER RECENTLY RELEASED PORTIONS OF AN INTERVIEW YOU GAVE IN 2013 IN WHICH YOU SAID, QUOTE, MY OWN VIEW ON GUNS IS EVERYTHING BEING EQUAL STATES SHOULD MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. HAS YOUR THINKING CHANGED SINCE THEN, DO YOU THINK THERE'S A FEDERAL ROLE TO PLAY. >> THAT'S A MISCHARACTERIZATION. >> THAT'S A QUOTE OF YOURS. >> WE HAVE A GUN CRISIS RIGHT NOW, 40,000 PEOPLE A YEAR ARE GETTING KILLED. IN 1988, RACHEL, WHEN IT WASN'T POPULAR, I RAN ON A PLATFORM OF BANNING ASSAULT WEAPONS. I HAVE A D-MINUS INVESTIGATE RECORD FROM THE NRA, AND I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE NEED IS COMPREHENSIVE GUN LEGISLATION THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS PROVIDE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUNDS, WE END THE GUN SHOW LOOPHOLES AND END THE STRAW MAN POSITION AND I BELIEVE IN 1988 AND TODAY. ASSAULT WEAPONS -- >> YOU LEAVE 15 MILLION WEAPONS. >> AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA. >> YOU WOULD -- YOUR PLAN LEAVES THEM ON THE STREET. LEAVES 15 MILLION ON THE STREET. >> WE BAN THE SALE. >> WOULD YOU BUY THEM BACK? >> THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE FOR MANY YEARS. >> WOULD YOU BUY THEM BACK? >> IF THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO DO THAT, IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT. >> SENATOR HARRIS. >> I THINK YOUR IDEA IS A GREAT ONE, CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL, AND I WOULD SAY THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS. THE PROBLEM IS CONGRESS HAS NOT HAD THE COURAGE OF ACT WHICH IS WHY WHEN I'M ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES I'LL GIVE THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS 100 DAYS TO PULL THEIR ACT TOGETHER, BRING ALL THESE GOOD IDEAS TOGETHER AND PUT A BILL ON MY DESK FOR SIGNATURE AND IF THEY DO NOT I WILL TAKE EXECUTIVE ACTION AND I WILL PUT IN PLACE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BACKGROUND CHECK POLICY WE'VE H.I WILL REQUIRE THE ATF TO TAKE THE LICENSES OF GUN DEALERS WHO VIOLATE THE LAW AND I WILL BAN BY EXECUTIVE ORDER THE IMPORTATION OF ASSAULT WEAPONS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU AS A PROSECUTOR I HAVE SEEN MORE AUTOPSY PHOTOGRAPHS THAN I CARE TO TELL YOU, I HAVE HUGGED MORE MOTHERS WHO ARE THE MOTHERS OF HOMICIDE VICTIMS AND I HAVE ATTENDED MORE POLICE OFFICER FUNERALS. IT IS ENOUGH. IT IS ENOUGH. THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF GOOD IDEAS FROM MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS BUT THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION. AS PRESIDENT I WILL TAKE ACTION. >> MAYOR BUTTIGIEG, I WANT TO BRING YOU IN ON THIS, SIR. A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ASSAULT RIFLES THAT ARE OFTEN DESIGNATED AS MILITARY STYLE WEAPONS. YOU'RE THE ONLY PERSON ON THE STAGE WITH MILITARY EXPERIENCE AT A VETERAN OF THE IRAQ WAR. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT MILITARY FAMILIES OR AMERICA'S VETERANS WILL AT LARGE HAVE A DIFFERENT TAKE ON THIS THAN THE OTHER AMERICANS WHO WE'VE OPINION TALKING ABOUT? >> YEAH, OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE TRAINED ON SOME OF THESE KINDS OF WEAPONS. LOOK, EVERY PART OF MY LIFE EXPERIENCE INFORMS ME, BEING THE MAYOR OF A CITY WHERE THE WORST PART OF THE JOB IS DEALING WITH VIOLENCE. WE LOSE AS MANY AS WERE LOST TO PARKLAND EVERY TWO OR THREE YEARS IN MY CITY ALONE, AND THIS IS TEARING COMMUNITIES APART. IF MORE GUNS MADE US SAFER, WE'D BE THE SAFEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. AND COMMON SENSE MEASURES LIKE UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS CAN'T SEEM TO GET DELIVERED BY WASHINGTON, EVEN WHEN MOST REPUBLICANS, LET ALONE MOST AMERICANS, AGREE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND AS SOMEBODY WHO TRAINED ON WEAPONS OF WAR I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE WEAPONS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN AMERICAN CITIES OR NEIGHBORHOODS IN PEACETIME EVER. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, 30 SECONDS. >> REAL 30 SECONDS. >> A REAL 30 SECONDS. >> I'M ONLY PERSON THAT'S BEATEN THE NRA NATIONALLY. I'M THE GUY THAT GOT THE BRADY BILL PASSED, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE INCREASE THAT HAD BACKGROUND CHECK WHEN -- DURING THE OBAMA/BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND I'M ALSO THE ONLY GUY THAT GOT ASSAULT WEAPONS BANNED AND THE NUMBER OF CLIPS IN A GUN BAND, AND SO, FOLKS, LOOK, AND I WOULD BUY BACK THOSE WEAPONS. WE ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE TRIED TO GET IT DONE. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE, AND IT SHOULD BE DEMANDED THAT WE DO IT AND THAT'S A GOOD EXPENDITURE OF MONEY AND LASTLY WE SHOULD HAVE SMART GUNS. NO GUN SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW UNLESS YOUR BIOMETRIC MEASURE CAN PULL THE TRIGGER. IT'S WITHIN OUR TRYING DO THAT. OUR ENEMY IS THE GUN MANUFACTURERS, NOT THE NRA, THE GUN MANUFACTURER. >> THE NRA IS TAKING ORDERS FROM THE GUN MANUFACTURERS. >> LESTER HOLT HAS OUR NEXT QUESTION. >> TAKE IT AWAY. >> A QUESTION FROM OUR VIEWERS. WE PUT SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT MAYBE THEY COULD SHARE ONE. THIS IS FROM KATHLEEN IN OREGON. MANY FEAR THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION HAS INFLICTED IRREVOCABLE HARM ON OUR GOVERNING INSTITUTIONS AND NORMS AND THE PROCESS ON OUR REPUTATION ABROAD. THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU SEE AS IMPORTANT EARLY STEPS IN REVERSING THE DAMAGE DONE, AND WE'LL PUT THIS ONE TO SENATOR BENNETT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WHAT AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY AT HOME. THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LOCKING FOR US IN LEADERSHIP. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW OR THE FREEDOM OF PRESS OR OR INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY BUT BELIEVES IN THE CORRUPTION THAT HE'S BROUGHT TO WASHINGTON, D.C. AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE AND THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY IS UP HERE TONIGHT AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE UP HERE FOR THAT REASON. SECOND, WE'VE GOT -- WE'VE GOT TO RESTORE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT HE'S DESTROYED WITH OUR ALLIES, NOT JUST IN EUROPE. HE FLEW TO THE G20 LAST NIGHT AND ATTACKED JAPAN, GERMANY AND A THIRD ALLY OF OURS WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT NORTH KOREA OR RUSSIA, AND -- AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO SAYS SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND THE WHOLE WORLD DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER TO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? THIS IS A PERFECT TIME FOR ME TO DO ANOTHER ONE OF THESE DOWN THE LINE AND THIS IS WHAT THIS QUESTION IS WHICH IS WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE TO -- YOU'RE LIKELY GOING HAVE TO RESET A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN AMERICA AND ANOTHER COUNTRY OR ENTITY IF YOU BECOME PRESIDENT BECAUSE OF PERHAPS -- PERHAPS BECAUSE OF SOME RELATIONSHIP YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP. WHAT'S THE FIRST RELATIONSHIP YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESET AS PRESIDENT AND I'LL GO DOWN THE LINE STARTING WITH MISS WILLIAMSON. >> ONE OF MY FIRST PHONE CALLS WOULD BE TO CALL THE EUROPEAN LEADERS TO SAY WE'RE BACK BECAUSE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT THE UNITED STATES BE PART OF THE WESTERN ALLIANCE. >> TRYING TO GET ONE OR TWO WORDS HERE. I HEAR YOU. GOVERNOR HICK LOOPER. >> I TALK ABOUT CONSTANT ENGAGEMENT AND THE FIRST COUNTRY I WOULD GO TO, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE BEEN CHEATING AND STEALING, WOULD BE CHINA. >> OKAY. >> WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE CHALLENGES OF THE GLOBE, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVERYBODY. >> WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE IN A COUPLE MORE THINGS. >> CHINA, WE NEED TO COOPERATE WITH THEM ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND AI AND OTHER ISSUES. >> THANKS FOR THE QUICK SGLES MAYOR BUTTIGIEG. >> WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE ALLIES HE'LL PISS OFF WORSE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ENTIRE WORLD NEEDS TO CHANGE AND IT STARTS BY MODELING AMERICAN VALUES AS HOME. >> MR. VICE PRESIDENT, TRYING TO BE QUICK. >> WE KNOW NATO WILL FALL APART IF HE'S ELECTED FOUR MORE YEARS, THE SINGLE MOST CONSEQUENCE ALLIANCE IN THE UNITED STATES. >> SENATOR SANDERS. >> IT'S NOT ONE COUNTRY. I THINK IT'S REBUILDING TRUST IN THE UNITED NATIONS AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN SOLVE CONFLICTS WITHOUT WAR BUT WITH DIPLOMACY. >> SENATOR HARRIS. >> ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE NATO ALLIANCE. >> SENATOR GILLIBRAND. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS HELL BENT ON STARTING A WAR WITH IRAN. MY FIRST ACT WILL BE TO ENGAGE IRAN, TO STABILIZE THE MIDDLE EAST AND MAKE SURE WE DO NOT START AN UNWANTED NEVER ENDING WAR. >> SENATOR BENNETT QUICKFULLY. >> OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES AND EVERY LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRY THAT'S WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE REFUGEE CRISIS. >> CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL. >> FIRST ACT AS FOREIGN POLICY WAS BREAKING UP WITH RUSSIA AND MAKING UP WITH NATO. >> THANK YOU ALL. >> ONE QUESTION FOR VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN TONIGHT. YOU'VE MADE YOUR DECADES OF EXPERIENCE IN FOREIGN POLICY A PILLAR OF YOUR CAMPAIGN, BUT WHEN THE TIME CAME TO SAY YES OR NO ON ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL FOREIGN POLICY DECISIONS OF THE LAST CENTURY YOU VOTED FOR THE IRAQ WAR. YOU HAVE SINCE SAID YOU REGRET THAT VOTE. WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING A DECISION ABOUT TAKING THE COUNTRY TO WAR THE NEXT TIME? >> BECAUSE ONCE THE -- ONCE BUSH BOOZE THAT HAD POWER WHAT HAPPENED WAS HE GOT ELECTED AFTER THAT I MADE THE PRESIDENT TURNED TO ME AND SAID GET OUR COMBAT TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ. I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING 150,000 COMBAT TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ AROUND MY SON WAS ONE OF THEM. I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD NOT HAVE COMBAT TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN. IT'S HONG OVERDUE. IT SHOULD END, AND THIRDLY I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND ANYBODY WHO HAS PULLED TOGETHER MORE OF OUR ALLIANCES TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS THE REAL STATED THREAT OUT THERE. WE CAN'T GO IT ALONE IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH TERRORISM SO I WOULD ELIMINATE THE ACT THAT ALLOWED US TO GO INTO WAR AND NOT THE AMF AND MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR WHAT ITS INTENT WAS, AND THAT IS TO GO AFTER TERRORISTS BUT NEVER DO IT ALONE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO REPAIR OUR ALLIANCES. WE PUT TOGETHER 56 COUNTRIES TO MAKE SURE WE DEALT WITH ISIS IN IRAQ AND OTHER PLACES. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE DONE AND I KNOW HOW TO DO IT. >> SENATOR SANDERS, 30 SECONDS. >> ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IS THAT JOE AND I HAVE IN OUR RECORD IS JOE VOTED FOR THAT WAR, I HELPED LEAD THE OPPOSITION TO THAT WAR WHICH WAS A TOTAL DISASTER. SECOND OF ALL, I HELPED LEAD THE EFFORT FOR THE FIRST TIME TO UTILIZE THE WAR POWERS ACT TO GET THE UNITED STATES OUT OF THE SORTIE-LED INTERVENTION IN YEMEN WHICH IS THE MOST HORRIFIC HUMANITARIAN DISASTER ON EARTH, AND THIRDLY, LET ME BE VERY CLEAR, I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO PREVENT A WAR WITH IRAN WHICH WOULD BE FAR WORSE THAN DISASTROUS WAR WITH IRAQ. >> THANK YOU, GUYS. YOU GET MORE TIME TO TALK BUT I HAVE TO SNEAK IN ONE MORE BREAK. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE DEBATE. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE [ APPLAUSE ] >> WE ARE BACK IN MIAMI. NOW EACH CANDIDATE WILL HAVE A FINAL CHANCE TO MAKE THEIR CASE TO THE VOTERS. 45 SECONDS EACH. WE BEGIN WITH CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL. >> WE CAN'T BE A FORWARD LOOKING PARTY IF WE LOOK TO THE PAST FOR OUR LEADERSHIP. I'M A CONGRESSMAN BUT ALSO A FATHER OF A 2-YEAR-OLD AND AN INFANT. WHEN I'M NOT CHANGING DIAPERS, I'M CHANGING WASHINGTON. MOST OF THE TIME THE DIAPERS SMELL BETTER. I WENT TO CONGRESS AT 31 AND I FOUND A WASHINGTON THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME. IT'S MADE OF THE RICH AND THE DISCONNECTED. I WAS THE FIRST IN MY FAMILY TO GO TO COLLEGE AND HAVE STUDENT LOAN DEBT SO I'VE LED THE EFFORT TO ELECT THE NEXT GENERATION OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND WE HAVE A MOMENT TO SEIZE. THIS IS A CAN-DO GENERATION. THIS IS A GENERATION THAT WILL END CLIMATE CHAOS. THIS IS A GENERATION THAT WILL SOLVE STUDENT LOAN DEBT AND THIS IS THE GENERATION THAT WILL SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND END GUN VIOLENCE THIS. GENERATION DEMANDS BOLD SOLUTIONS. THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. >> CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU. >> MISS WILLIAMSON, 45 SECONDS. >> I'M SORRY WE HAVEN'T TALKED MORE TONIGHT ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. DONALD TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO BE BEATEN JUST BY INSIDER POLITICS. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE BEATEN BY SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PLAN. HE'S GOING TO BE BEATEN BY SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN IDEA WHAT THIS MAN HAS DONE. THIS HAN HAS REACHED INTO THE PSYCHE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND HE'S HARNESSED FEAR FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, I WANT YOU TO HEAR ME, PLEASE. YOU HAVE HARNESSED FEAR FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES AND ONLY LOVE CAN CAST THAT OUT SO I, SIR, I HAVE A FEELING YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I'M GOING TO HARNESS LOVE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. I WILL MEET YOU ON THAT FIELD AND, SIR, LOVE WILL WIN. >> THANK YOU. >> SENATOR BENNETT. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. >> MY MOM AND HER PARENTS CAME TO THE UNITED STATES TO REBUILD THEIR SHATTERED LIVES. IN THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT THEY COULD. 300 YEARS BEFORE THAT MY PARENT'S FAMILY CAME SEARCHING RELIGIOUS FREEDOM HERE. THE ABILITY FROM ONE GENERATION TO DO BETTER THAN THE NEXT IS NOW SEVERELY AT RISK IN THE UNITED STATES, ESPECIALLY AMONG CHILDREN LIVING IN POVERTY LIKE THE ONES I USED TO WORK FOR IN THE DENVER PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. I'VE HAD TWO TOUGH RACES IN COLORADO BY BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND NOT BY MAKING EMPTY PROMISES AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BUILD A BROAD COALITION OF AMERICANS TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP AND THE CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON AND BUILD A NEW ERA OF THE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND AMERICAN OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS GOING TO BE HARD TO DO, BUT IT'S WHAT OUR PARENTS WOULD HAVE EXPECTED. IT'S WHAT OUR KIDS DESERVE. I HOPE YOU JOIN ME IN THIS EFFORT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOVERNOR HICKENLOOPER. >> I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO BROUGHT THAT SAME SCRAPPY SPIRIT TO COLORADO, ONE OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE STATES IN AMERICA. WE STAND IN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH TO REDUCE TEENAGE ABORTION BY 64%. WE'RE THE FIRST STATE TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AND WE TRANSFORMED OUR DEFICITS INTO THE PROCESS. WE PASSED UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS IN A PURPLE STATE AND GOT TO NEAR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE COVERAGE AND ATTACKED CLIMATE CHANGE WITH THE TOUGHEST METHANE REGULATIONS IN THE COUNTRY AND FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE ECONOMY IN AMERICA. YOU DON'T NEED BIG GOVERNMENT TO DO BIG THINGS. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE I'M THE ONE PERSON UP HERE WHO HAS ACTUALLY DOESN'T BIG PROGRESSIVE THINGS EVERYONE SELLS TALKING ABOUT. IF WE TURN TOWARDS SOCIALISM, WE RUN THE RISK OF HELPING TO RE-ELECT THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. >> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. >> SENATOR GILL BRAND, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR 45 SECONDS. >> WOMEN IN AMERICA ARE ON FIRE. WE'VE MARCHED, WE'VE ORGANIZED AND WE'VE RUN FOR OFFICE AND WE WON, BUT OUR RIGHTS ARE UNDER ATTACK LIKE NEVER BEFORE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO REPEAL "ROE V. WADE" WHICH IS WHY I WENT TO THE FRONT LINES IN GEORGIA TO FIGHT FOR THEM. AS PRESIDENT I WILL TAKE ON THE FIGHTS THAT NO ONE ELSE WILL. I STOOD UP TO THE PENTAGON AND REPEALED DON'T ISN'T DON'T TELL. I STOOD UP TO THE BANKS AND VOTED AGAINST THE BAILOUT TWICE. I STOOD UP TO TRUMP MORE THAN ANY OTHER SENATOR IN THE U.S. SENATE AND I HAVE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH FOR GETTING MONEY OUT OF POLITICS WITH PUBLICLY FUNDED ELECTIONS TO DEAL WITH POLITICAL CORRUPTION. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO PLAY IT SAFE. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO BE AFRAID OF FIRSTS. WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO WILL TAKE ON THE BIG CHALLENGES EVEN IF SHE STANDS ALONE. JOIN ME IN FIGHTING FOR THIS. >> SENATOR GILLIBRAND, THANK YOU. >> MR. YANG, YOU HAVE HAD A SECONDS FOR YOUR CLOSING. >> AFFIRMATIVE ACTION I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO PUT ME ON THE STAGE TONIGHT. I AM PROOF THAT OUR DEMOCRACY STILL WORKS. DEMOCRATS AND AMERICANS AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THEIR NOMINEE AND THAT IS WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN 2020. THAT IS THE RIGHT QUESTION, AND THE RIGHT CANDIDATE TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP WILL BE SOLVING THE PROBLEMS THAT GOT DONALD TRUMP ELECTED AND WILL HAVE A VISION OF A TRICKLE UP ECONOMY THAT'S ALREADY DRAWING THOUSANDS OF DISAFFECTED TRUMP VOTERS, CONSERVATIVES AND LIBERTARIANS AS WELL AS DEMOCRATS AND PROGRESS I WAS, I AM THAT CANNED DAY. I CAN BUILD A MUCH BROADER COALITION TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. IT'S NOT LEFT. IT IS NOT RIGHT. IT IS FORWARD AND THAT'S WHERE I I'LL TAKE THE COUNTRY IN 2020. >> MR. YANG, THANK YOU. >> SENATOR HARRIS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, WE NEED A NOMINEE WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO PROSECUTE THE CASE AGAINST FOUR MORE YEARS OF DONALD TRUMP AND I WILL DO THAT. SECOND, THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT YOU. THIS IS ABOUT YOUR HOPES AND YOUR DREAMS AND YOUR FEARS AND WHAT WAKES YOU UP AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE WHAT I CALL AL 3:00 A.M. AGENDA THAT'S ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO DELIVER HEALTHCARE TO HOW YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PAY THE BILLS BY THE END OF THE MONTH, AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR COUNTRY NEEDS, YOU PROMISE YOU I WILL BE A PRESIDENT WHO LEADS WITH A SENSE OF DIGNITY, WITH HONESTY, SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND GIVING THE AMERICAN FAMILY ALL THAT THEY NEED TO GET THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO PROSPER SO I HOPE TO EARN YOUR SUPPORT. PLEASE JOIN US AT KAMALAHARRIS.ORG. >> SENATOR, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR BUTTIGIEG, 45 SECONDS. >> NOTHING ABOUT POLITICS IS THEORETICAL TO ME. I'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF WRITING A LETTER TO MY FAMILY, PUTTING IT IN AN ENVELOPE MARKED JUST IN CASE AND LEAVING IT WHERE THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE TO FIND IT IN CASE I DIDN'T COME BACK FROM AFGHANISTAN. I'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF INCOME A MARRIAGE THAT EXISTS BY THE GRACE OF A SINGLE VOTE ON THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF GUIDING A COMMUNITY WHERE THE PER CAPITA INCOME WAS BELOW $20,000 WHEN I TOOK OFFICE INTO A BRIGHTER FUTURE. I'M RUNNING BECAUSE THE DECISIONS WE MAKE IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS WILL DECIDE HOW THE NEXT 30 OR 40 GO AND WHEN I GET TO THE CURRENT AGE OF THE CURRENT PRESIDENT IN THE YEAR 205 5I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK ON THESE YEARS AND SAY MY GENERATION DELIVERED CLIMATE SOLUTIONS, RACIAL EQUALITY AND AN END TO ENDLESS WAR. HELP ME DELIVER THAT NEW GENERATION TO WASHINGTON BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. >> THANK YOU. >> SENATOR SANDERS, 25 SECONDS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> I SUSPECT PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY WHO ARE WATCHING THIS DEBATE ARE SAYING THESE ARE THE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE GREAT IDEAS, BUT HOW COME NOTHING REALLY CHANGES? HOW COME FOR THE LAST 45 YEARS WAGES HAVE BEEN STAGNANT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS? HOW COME WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILDHOOD POVERTY? HOW COME 45 MILLION PEOPLE STILL HAVE STUDENT DEBT? HOW COME THREE PEOPLE ARE MORE WEALTHY THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF AMERICA AND HERE IS THE ANSWER? NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNLESS WE HAVE THE GUTS TO TAKE ON WALL STREET, THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY, THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY, THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE GUTS TO TAKE THEM ON, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE PLANS. WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOUGHTS AND THE RICH WILL GET RICHER AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL BE STRUGGLING. >> THANK YOU, SENATOR. >> AND LASTLY WE'LL HEAR FROM VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN. SIR, YOU HAVE 45 SECONDS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M RUNNING TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RESTORE THE SOUL THE NATION OF THE PRESIDENT. THIS PRESIDENT HAS RIPPED IT OUT. THE ONLY PRESIDENT WHO HAS EQUATED RACIST AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS WITH OTHER DEESE END PEOPLE AND HE'S THE ONLY PRESIDENT WHO HAS EMBRACED DICTATORS AND THUMBED THEIR NOSE AT YOU'RE ALLY. I'M SECONDLY RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TO RESTORE THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA. THE POOR AND HARD WORKING MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT REPLACING THEM WITH THE DIGNITY THEY ONCE HAD. LASTLY WE'VE GOT TO UNITE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS MUCH AS ANYBODY SAYS WE CAN'T. IF WE DO THERE'S NOT A SINGLE THING THAT THE PEOPLE CAN'T DO. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE CAN DO ANYTHING IF WE'RE TOGETHER, TOGETHER. SO GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND MAY GOD PROTECT OUR TROOPS. >> VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, THANK YOU. >> WE WANT TO THANK OUR CANDIDATES. WE'VE HAD TWO NIGHTS OF SPIRITED DEBATE ON A RANGE OF ISSUES. 20 CANDIDATES IN ALL. THANK ALL OF THE CANDIDATES LAST NIGHT AND TONIGHT. >> THANKS FOR STICKING YOUR NECK OUT LIKE THIS. >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE AUDIENCE FOR COMPLETELY IGNORING OUR SUGGESTIONS. >> THANKS TO THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> AND, OF COURSE, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE FOR HOST IS US HERE AND OUR TERRIFIC AUDIENCE. FOR SAVANNAH, JOSE, CHUCK AND RACHEL, I'M LESTER HOLT. GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE, FROM MIAMI. ♪ ♪ EVERYONE HERE FOR HOST IS US >> WHAT A DEBATE NIGHT. WELCOME BACK TO OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE SECOND NIGHT OF THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE RIGHT HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." THERE YOU HAVE IT, TWO NIGHTS, 20 CANDIDATES IT. THE CANDIDATES ARE WALKING OFF THE STAGE AS WE SPEAK. JOE BIDEN, BERNIE SANDERS, KAMALA HARRIS, PETE BOURGET WERE IN THE FRONT. THEY WERE THE FRONT-RUNNERS COMING INTO TONIGHT. THEY TALKED ABOUT RACE. IMMIGRATION, POLICE VIOLENCE, HEALTH CARE, CLIMATE CHANGE, GUN CONTROL, JUST TO NAME A FEW. AND THOSE CANDIDATES TRIED TO STICK THEIR CLAIM ON THE ISSUES AND MANY OF THEM TRIED TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO AMERICANS WHO ARE MEETING THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT. HERE ARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. >> IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE, REAL CHANGE. >> I WAS 6 YEARS OLD WHEN A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CAME TO THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION AND SAID, IT'S TIME TO PASS THE TORCH TO A NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS. THAT CANDIDATE WAS THEN SENATOR JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID IT WAS TIME TO PA -- TO PASS THE TORCH TO A NEW GENERATION OF AMERICANS, AND HE IS STILL RIGHT TODAY. >> AMERICA DOES NOT WANT TO WITNESS A FOOD FIGHT, THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW WE PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLE. >> IF YOUR GOVERNMENT PLAN WOULD PROVIDE FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DON'T HAVE A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE A SICKNESS CARE SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES. AND I WILL ENSURE THAT THE MICROPHONE THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOLDS IN HER HAND IS USED IN A WAY THAT IS ABOUT RESPECTING THE VALUES OF OUR COUNTRY. >> FOR A PARTY THAT ASSOCIATESIST WITH CHRISTIAN -- CHRISTIANITY, TO SAY THAT GOD WOULD SMILE ON THE DIVISION OF FAMILIES AT THE HANDS OF FEDERAL AGENTS THAT GOD WOULD CONDON PUTTING KIDS IN CAGES. >> IF YOU FORCIBLY TAKE A CHILD FROM A PARENT'S ARMS YOU ARE KIDNAPPING THEM. >> WITH THIS BORDER SECURITY, NOT A WALL, THE BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN TURNED IN TO A SYMBOL OF HOSTILITY. WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE. >> I'M DETERMINED TO BRING ABOUT A DAY WHEN A WHITE PERSON DRIVING A VEHICLE AND A BLACK PERSON DRIVING A VEHICLE, WHEN THEY SEE A POLICE OFFICER APPROACHING, FEELS THE EXACT SAME THING. >> WE WILL GET TO YOU, HANG ON. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF RACE. AND I'M GOING THE NOW DIRECT THIS AT VICE PRESIDENT ABIDE KNOW. UM, I -- I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE A RACIST AND I BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU COMMIT YOURSELF TO THE IMPORTANCE OF FINDING COMMON GROUND. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE AND IT'S PERSONAL, AND IT WAS HURTFUL, TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THE REPUTATIONS OF TWO UNITED STATES SENATORS WHO BUILT THEIR REPUTATIONS AND CAREER ON THE SEGRAGATION OF RACE IN THE COUNTRY. >> I DID NOT PRAISE RACISTS. >> DO YOU AGREE TODAY, DO YOU AGREE TODAY, THAT YOU WERE WRONG TO OPPOSE BUSSING IN AMERICA THEN? >> NO, I DID NOT OPPOSE BUSSING IN AMERICA. WHAT I OPPOSED IS BUSSING ORDERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. THAT IS WHAT I OPPOSED. I DID NOT OPPOSE -- >> IT WAS A FAILURE OF STATES TO -- I WAS PART OF THE SECOND CLASS TO INTEGRATE BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SCHOOLS TWO DECADES OUT OF BROWN--V-BOARD OF EDUCATION. >> IT WAS A LOCAL DECISION. >> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT -- THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT. THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO PASS THE EQUALITY ACT AND THE E.R.A, THERE'S MOMENTS IN HISTORY WHERE STATES FAIL TO PRESERVE THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF OUR PEOPLE. WHO DO YOU WANT WHEN THAT DOOR CLOSES TO BE SITTING BEHIND THE DESK? TO FIGHT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS? I HAVE BEEN THE FIERCEST ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FOR OVER A DECADE. >> IT WOULD SPEED US UP ON CLIMATE CHANGE, IF YOU GET YOUR BOOT OFF OF PEOPLE'S THROATS, WE WILL HAVE CLIMATE CHANGE FOR QUICKLY. >> IF MORE GUNS MADE US SAFER, WE WOULD BE THE SAFEST COUNTRY ON EARTH. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. >> HERE TO HELP ME DIVE IN TO ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WE HEARD TONIGHT ON THE DEBATE STAGE. WE HAVE NANCY SANTIAGO, AND ZERLINA MAXWELL. WHO DO YOU THINK WON THE DEBATE TONIGHT, ALEX? >> IT WAS KAMALA HARRIS AND THAT EXCHANGE SHE HAD WITH JOE BIDEN WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSED. IT'S NOT EVEN OVER, KAMALA'S CAMPAIGN IS SAYING THAT BIDEN NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE. AND THERE'S AN OPEN QUESTION, BIDEN IN THEIR DEFENDED HIS PASSED VIEWS. THAT IS NOT CLEAR, THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP PUSHING HIM TO CHANGE HIS POSITION. >> DO YOU THINK HE WAS RIGHT TO DOUBLE DOWN WHEN SHE HELD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE? >> NO, HE WAS WRONG. HE IS WRONG. AND SHE ARTICULATED FUNDAMENTALLY A REALLY IMPORTANT DEBATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WHICH IS THE ROLE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN IT STEPS IN. WHEN THE STATES ARE NOT DOING WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAYS IT SHOULD DO, RIGHT? SO, HER POINT ON THE SUBSTANCE IS CORRECT. SO, HE WAS WRONG IN THAT MOMENT AND WRONG TO DOUBLE DOWN. >> AND THEN YOU WERE THERE LAST NIGHT IN MIAMI CORRECT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> ONE THING I COULD NOT HELP BUT NOTICE WAS THE WAY THAT IDENTITY POLITICS WAS TREATED TONIGHT VERSE LAST NIGHT. TO ME, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, IT FELT LIKE LAST NIGHT WAS MORE ABOUT WHO I AM. AND TONIGHT, IT WAS MORE OF WHAT I HAVE SPECIALSED. YOU SAW THE CANDIDATES CONNECT ON THINGS LIKE HEALTH CARE. I HAD A SICK DAD OR A TERMINAL ILLNESS AND IT SEEMED TO BE ABOUT THE MARROW OF THEIR EXPERIENCES. DO YOU THINK THAT AFFECTED WHY THAT MOMENT WITH KAMALA WAS SO POWERFUL? >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT PER SAY FOR ME, THERE WAS IDENTITY POLITICS LAST NIGHT. AND IT WAS AROUND THE IMMIGRATION PIECE. IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE, RIGHT? IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING. SO IN THAT RESPECT, THAT WAS A HEATED EXCHANGE BETWEEN -- SO, WE THINK ABOUT THAT PIECE, IT'S JUST PLAYING OUT DIFFERENTLY. WHAT I THINK THE PROBLEM, OR THE MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR BIDEN WAS, HE HAD A CHANCE TO MODEL FOR AMERICA HOW TO SAY, I AM SORRY, LET'S FIX THIS. BECAUS -- BECAUSE SHE SAID, I WAS HURT PERSONALLY. IT WAS HIS MOMENT TO SHOW HOW YOU COME TOGETHER, HE SAID IT, I'M THE BRIDGE. DO THAT, AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE EXCHANGE. >> I THINK SHE SPOKE TORE OTHER BLACK PEOPLE TOO. SAYING IT WAS HURTFUL. WE ARE JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW, YOUR WORDS HAD AN IMPACT IN A NEGATIVE WAY, BECAUSE IT SEEMED THAT YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAY IN THE MOMENT. YOU ARE COMPLIMENTING, NOT PRAISING, SPECIFICALLY TO BE CLEAR, BUT SAYING SOMETHING COMPLIMENTARY ABOUT SEGREGATIONIST, SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING YOU DO NOT SAY IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE NOMINATION. >> WHAT I THINK WAS POWERFUL WAS WHEN SHE SAID, I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A RACIST. FOR US IN THE FIELD, WE HEAR THAT WORD BEING THROWN AROUND, AND AUTOMATICALLY YOU ARE A RACIST IF YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP. HEY, TO SAY PLAINLY, I THINK I BELIEVE I KNOW WHAT IS IN YOUR HEART, BUT THIS IS AN ISSUE ABOUT POLICY. AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE ALL STANDING HERE ON THE DEBATE STAGE. DO YOU THINK, HOWEVER, THAT SHE IS KEEPING THE ISSUE AROUND, YOU SAID THE WORD PRAISE, PRAISING THE SEGREGATIONIST. HE SAID THAT HE DID NOT DO. >> HE SAID HE DID NOT DO THAT. >> DO YOU THINK, SHE AND SENATOR BOOKER ARE KEEPING THE ISSUE ALIVE FOR POLITICAL REASONS? >> SURE, YEAH. ALEX, YEAH, OKAY, OKAY. >> YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. >> ONLY ONE OF THEM CAN BE PRESIDENT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROSECUTE THAT CASE. DOESN'T MEAN THE FEELINGS ARE NOT SINCERE AND THAT SHE WAS NOT OFFENDED OR HURT. SHE IS GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THIS, BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO SHOW THAT SHE CAN PROSECUTE THE CASE AGAINST FRUMP -- AGAINST TRUMP AND THE FRONT-RUNNER. >> LOOKING LIKE SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO WIN THE ELECTION. SHE DID NOT COME IN TO GO UP IN THE POLLS A BIT. SHE CAME OUT WITH THE CONVICTION, IT WAS LIKE, IN THE EYES. SHE HAD CONVICTION, SHE LOOKED DIRECTLY IN THE CAMERA AND SAID THINGS, YOU KNOW, WITH SUCH CONFIDENCE. WHEN I'M PRESIDENT, WHEN I'M IN THE OVAL OFFICE. SHE WILL HOLD THE MIC IN HER HAND. IT'S SUBTLE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FEEL THIS WAY AS WELL. -- THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN. >> RIGHT. ? I HAVE NOT -- >> THAT WAS THE '90s. >> AND I DID NOT WATCH THE DEBATE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY, YOU KNOW, ADULT LIFE I HAVE SEEN A BLACK WOMAN -- >> SO SENATOR HARRIS IS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE SENATOR, BUT BACK IN THE '90s -- >> THERE WERE THREE BLACK WOMEN THAT EVER HAD RUN. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN A BLACK WOMAN ON THE STAGE AT THIS LEVEL. THAT THEY ARE TAKING IT TO THE FRONT-RUNNER. NOT JUST THE FRONT-RUNNER, TO THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. SHE IS GOING TO WIN OVER A LOT OF FANS THAT, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE AP POLL THAT I CITED. >> SO, NANCY, I HAVE TO GET YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THIS FOR ME. WHY WAS THAT MOMENT WITH KAMALA READ SO DIFFERENTLY THEN THE MOMENT WITH BETHEL YESTERDAY, WHEN HE WAS SPEAKING TODAY? >> IT'S ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS WE HAVE BEEN USING THE WORD APPROPRIATION QUITE A BIT. IT WAS THAT MOMENT, OF COME ON, LET'S NOT DO THAT MOMENT. >> THIS IS BROADCAST ON TELEMUNDO -- HE WAS SPEAKING SPANISH TO A LATINO AUDIENCE. >> THAT WAS RUMOR THAT WE WERE SEEING AND JULIAN HAD NOTHING TO LOSE AND BETO DRUG IT OUT OF HIM. AND HERE ARE THE POLICIES THAT YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING TO, THAT YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE. AND NO ONE TONIGHT MENTIONED 1325. >> ONLY WITH HIM YESTERDAY. >> AND NOTHING HAPPENED TODAY. >> AND 1325 FOR THE AUDIENCE IS ASYLUM. >> IT'S WHAT MAKES IT ILLEGAL TO GET ACROSS A BORDER WITHOUT A DOCUMENT. THIS IS THE STRUGGLE. SO, THAT IS WHAT IS CAUSING IT AND MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, NOBODY BROUGHT UP THE RAIDS THAT ARE PENDING. MY HOMETOWN IS ABOUT TO BE ONE OF THE LARGEST STAGING SITES AND THEY ARE COMING. NO ONE BROUGHT IT UP. I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, SPEAKING SPANISH IS NICE. DOING SOMETHING MATTERS. AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK REALLY GOT IN HIS CRAW LAST NIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT WE SAW. THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE BELLY THAT I HAD NEVER SEEN, THAT I WAS EXCITED TO SEE. AND WHEN YOU SEE EVERYONE GOOGLING HAD HIM, WHERE DID YOU COME FROM? I THINK WE WILL HAVE THE SAME REACTION SENATOR HARRIS, IT WAS A DIFFERENT SENATOR THAT WAS ON STAGE. >> THE GOOGLE SEARCH FOR KAMALA HARRIS INCREASED BY 500% AND SHE WAS THE TOP SEARCH OF ALL OF THE CANDIDATES. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN PREDEBATE SHOW, SENATOR SANDERS. DID HE HURT OR HELP HIS LEAD TONIGHT? >> HE CLEARLY CAME IN NOT WANTING TO ENGAGE BIDEN. THERE WAS SPECULATION THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE ON BIDEN AND ON ONE OF THE SIGNATURE ISSUES A LAY-UP FOR BERNIE ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR VOTE, WHERE BERNIE OF WAS IN THE CONGRESS AND VOTED THE OPPOSITE WAY, THEY NOTED IT, DISAGREED AND MOVED ON. HE DID NOT WANT TO GET IN A BOXING MATCH WITH BIDEN. >> WAS HE SCARED? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK HIM. I THINK HE CAME IN TO TALK ABOUT HIS ISSUES AND NOT TRY TO GET IN A SLUGGING MATCH WITH BIDEN. >> SPEAKING OF ASKING THE CANDIDAT CANDIDATES. I WANT TO DO THAT JUST NOW. WITH VONN HILLIARD, HE IS THERE HAD IN THE SPIN ROOM, WHO HAVE YOU BEEN A I BELIEVE TO TALK TO TONIGHT? I SEE THE CAMERAS MOVING. THERE HE IS. HE IS PULLING -- OKAY -- >> THERE'S TWO SENATORS RIGHT THERE ON THE STAGE. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS AND KAMALA HARRIS AND THEY RAISED THEIR HANDS AND TALKED ABOUT ELIMINATING PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE, FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE SENATE AND WORKING ON LEGISLATION, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY ARE MISSING IN THE EQUATION? >> FIRST OF ALL, THEY WERE HONEST ABOUT WHAT WAS IN THE BILL, THAT IS GOOD, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SAY, IT DOES NOT ELIMINATE PRIVATE INSURANCE. IT SOMEHOW IS LIKE AUSTRALIA. WHERE IT'S A GOOD SYSTEM. WHERE YOU HAVE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSURANCE. THAT IS POINT ONE. BUT GOOD FOR HONESTY AND WHAT THEY ARE MISSING, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, AS BERNIE SAID TONIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HATE PRIVATE INSURANCE. THAT IS TRUE. I HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE THE INSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE AND WANT TO KEEP IT AND I THINK, IF THE OBJECTIVE IS TO GET TO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COVERAGE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, GIVING PEOPLE AN OPTION TO CHOOSE FOR THEIR FAMILY, I THINK IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE THE FASTEST WAY. I THINK WE WILL BE DEAD BEFORE WE TAKE IT AWAY FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE HOLDING IT AT HOME OR WITH THEIR FAMILY. >> THERE'S A SURPRISE FROM SENATOR HARRIS RAISING HER HAND FOR THE RESPONSE AND I THINK THERE'S A CONCERN, WHAT IMPACT DOES IT HAVE? >> I WAS NOT SURPRISED. I THINK SHE IS FOR IT AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WANTS IT. IN STATES LIKE COLORADO, AND OTHER STATES, WHERE, THAT WE NEED TO WIN THE MAJORITY IN THE SENATE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME IF THE POSITION IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE INSURANCE AWAY FROM 180MILLION PEOPLE. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE, YOU CAN KEEP IT. A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE LOST IT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE SYSTEM CAME IN TO PLACE. AND THAT WAS A POLITICAL DISASTER. AND IT CONTINUES TO BE ONE TODAY. SO, IMAGINE A SITUATION WHERE, WHAT WE ARE SAYING TO PEOPLE IS, IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WHAT WE SHOULD BE ARGUING. WHAT WE SHOULD BE ARGUING IS FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. AND WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT THROUGH A PUBLIC OPTION AND I THINK WE CAN WITH ACHIEVE IT QUICKLY. AND WITH MUCH LESS DISRUPTION, AND BY THE WAY, EVERYBODY WHO HAS PRIVATE INSURANCE AND WHO HATES IT NO LONGER NEEDS IT, THEY CAN COME ON TO MEDICARE-X. >> THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PASSING THE TORCH TO THE NEXT GENERATION. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT TWO MEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT STAGE SHOULD PASS THE TORCH? >> I THINK IT'S TIME, I ANSWERED BERNIE'S QUESTION HE ASKED AT THE END, 40 YEARS OF IMMOBILITY IN THE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT HOW TO ADDRESS IT AND IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> DID SENATOR BENNETT CONSIDER HIMSELF PART OF THE NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP? OKAY. I THINK WE LOST HIM TO THE SPIN ROOM, WHICH IS WHERE HE OUGHT TO BE, GETTING MORE ANSWERS FROM THE CANDIDATES. AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING STAY TUNED WE ARE JUST GOING TO TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK, WE WILL BE RIGHT HERE WITH SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FIRST PRESIDENT AAL DEBATE ON NBC NEWS NOW. STAY TUNED. ♪ ♪ >>> THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW AND ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT THE CANDIDATES HIT EARLY WAS THEIR PLANS FOR HEALTH CARE. WE ALSO HERD A LOT ABOUT THAT, FROM CANDIDATE SWALWELL WHO IS TALKING TO VONN. LET US KNOW WHAT SWALWELL SAID, HE IS STANDING BEHIND YOU. I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE QUESTION HE PLACED TO JOE BIDEN ABOUT TORCH BEARERS. CAN WE ASK ABOUT THAT? >> YEAH, CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL, THE QUESTION OFF THE BAT WAS THE IDEA OF PASSING THE TORCH. WHY COME OFF WITH THAT QUESTION? >> THERE'S A URGENCY TO THE ISSUES OF THIS GENERATION. STUDENT DEBT, I HAVE IT AND 40 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE IT. WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT WILL DO IT NOW. GUN VIOLENCE, SEND MY KIDS TO SCHOOL, WORRY ABOUT THEIR SAFETY. WE CANNOT WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO EVOLVE TO THE ISSUES. WE NEED SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS THE URGENCY, WE NEED TO INVEST IN A CLIMATE CHANGE DEAL. JOE BIDEN OF WAS RIGHT. I'M STANDING ON THE STAGE AS SOMEBODY WHO IS READY TO RECEIVE THE TORCH. >> DID YOU MAKE THE ARGUMENT A THAT SANDERS AND BIDEN HAD THE HISTORY TO LEND CREDIBILITY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME TO WHAT POLICIES SHOULD BE PRESSED FORWARD? >> I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THE ISSUES ARE SO URGENT A THAT WE CANNOT COUNT ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR DOZENS OF DECADES AS THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN AROUND. WE NEED NEW EYES ON THE PROBLEM SET AND NEW ENERGY TO SOLVE THEM AND I'M READY TO DO THAT. >> THE QUESTION IS, THERE'S 20 PEOPLE ON THE STAGE, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE IN YOUR GENERATION, IF I MAY, WHY YOU AMONG THE GENERATION THAT INCLUDES SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG. >> I AM DAY ONE READY. I SHAPED WASHINGTON MORE THAN IT SHAPED ME, I HAVE PUT EFFORT IN TO BRINGING MORE YOUNGER CONGRESSMAN, I'M ONE OF THE THREE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE THAT HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE M-- >> THE TORCH BEARERS HAVE NOT EARNED THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE YET. WHY DOES HE THINK THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION AND THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE SHOULD TRUST HIM AS THE TORCH BEARER? >> THERE'S FOLKS THAT HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THIS YOUNGER GENERATION HAS NOT EARNED THE TRUST YET TO HAVE THAT TORCH BE PASSED, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE IN THE ROLES THEY ARE AND DO NOT HAVE MUCH CREDIBILITY TO THEIR NAMES? >> I WENT TO CONGRESS AT 31 YEARS OLD AND SAW A LOT OF MILLIONAIRES AND PEOPLE DISCONNECTED. I WENT RIGHT TO WORK. I AM ON THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. I HAVE GONE TO THE WAR ZONE. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH LEADERS. I'M READY TAKE ONE. >> WHY NOT SENATOR HARRIS? >> I'M A BIG FAN OF SENATOR HARRIS, I THINK WE BRING DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES. FOR ME, I BRING WORKING CLASS BACKGROUNDS, BORN IN IOWA. EDUCATED IN THE SOUTH. MARRIED TO A HOOSIER. ELECTED IN A DIVERSE PART OF CALIFORNIA. I KNOW THIS COUNTRY AND I CAN REPRESENT IT AND BEAT DONALD TRUMP. >> THANK YOU. MORGAN? >> CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND PLEASE, STAY IN THE SPIN ROOM, WE WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK TO YOU LATER. AND AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT THE CANDIDATES HIT EARLY WAS THEIR PLANS FOR HEALTH CARE. FROM OBAMA CARE TO HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. COVERING UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND DOING AWAY WITH PRIVATE HEALTH PLANS. EVERYTHING WAS ON THE TABLE TONIGHT. AND THE CANDIDATES GOT RIGHT IN TO IT, TAKE A LOOK. >> WHO HERE WOULD GET RID OF THEIR PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE IN FAVOR OF GOVERNMENT RUN PLAN. >> WHEN MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER WERE KILLED IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT. I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE HEALTH CARE AVAILABLE. WHEN MY SON CAME HOME FROM IRAQ AND DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER AND GIVEN MONTHS TO LIVE, I CANNOT THINK OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHEN THEY SAID, THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, YOU HAVE USED UP YOUR TIME. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE QUICKEST, FASTEST WAY TO DO IT IS BUILD TO OBAMA CARE. WE WILL HAVE MEDICARE FOR ALL! >> WHEN 10s OF MILLIONS PEOPLE ARE PREPARED TO STAND UP AND TELL THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THE DRUG COMPANIES THAT THEIR DAY IS GONE, THAT HEALTH CARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT, NOT SOMETHING TO MAKE HUGE PROFIT OFF OF. >> THIS WAS PERSONAL FOR ME. . I STARTED OUT THIS YEAR DEALING WITH A TERMINAL ILLNESS WITH WITH MY FATHER. THE THING WE HAD GOING FOR US, WE NEVER HAD TO MAKE THE DECISIONS BASED ON WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BANKRUPT OUR FAMILY BECAUSE OF MEDICARE. AND I WANT EVERY FAMILY TO HAVE THAT SAME FREEDOM TO DO WHAT IS MEDICALLY RIGHT . >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DON'T HAVE A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE A SICKNESS CARE SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES. >> RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOUR GOVERNMENT PLAN WOULD PROVIDE COVERAGE FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS. OKAY. >> CANNOT LET PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE FROM OR THEIR STATUS GO UNCOVERED. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. IT'S GOT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, PERIOD, YOU HAVE TO. IT'S THE HUMANE THING TO DO. BUT HERE'S THE DEAL, THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL-BEING OF THE COUNTRY. THEY INCREASE THE LIFE SPAN OF SOCIAL SECURITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A JOB, THEY ARE PAYING IN TO SOCIAL SECURITY TAX. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING. IT'S INCREASED THE LIFE SPAN. THEY WOULD DO THE SAME THING IN TERMS OF REVIEWSING THE OVERALL COST OF HEALTH CARE BY THEM BEING TREATED AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE IN AN EMERGENCY. >> THE WAY TO BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND McCONNELL WALKS IN, WHO DO YOU WANT WHEN THE DOOR IS CLOSING, TO FIGHT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS? I HAVE BEEN THE FIERCE ESTIMATE ADVOCATE FOR WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FOR OVER A DECADE, WHEN THAT DOOR CLOSES I WILL GUARANTEE WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS NO MATTER WHAT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> AS YOU SAW, THE GLOVES WERE OFF TONIGHT, HOW MANY OF THOSE CLAIMS WERE TRUE? WE ARE IN MIAMI RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE HAVE BEEN FACT CHECKING THE CANDIDATES. WHAT CAUGHT YOUR EYE TONIGHT? >> HEY, MORGAN. TONIGHT WAS DEFINITELY A MUCH DICEYER NIGHT, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTS, SOME OF THEM RIGHT AND SOME NOT RIGHT. ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT JUMPED OUT, KAMALA HARRIS SAYING THAT THE ECONOMY IS NOT WORKING FOR SOME PEOPLE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WORKING MULTIPLE JOBS. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HEAR A LOT FROM THE LEFT BECAUSE THE ECONOMY LOOKS PRETTITY GOOD AND IT'S ONE OF TRUMP'S BIGGEST CLAIMS FOR RE-ELECTION. BUT THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS TRACKED HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK MULTIPLE JOBS, 5% OF AMERICA. THAT IS 8 MILLION PEOPLE, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU CAN SAY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING IT, BUT IT DOWN SLIGHTLY FROM 20 YEARS AGO. A COUPLE OF THEY ARE THINGS, MARE PETE BUTTIGIEG TALKING ABOUT THE PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SUPPORT THAT. A KIND OF PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP. IT'S TRUE. THE GALLUP POLL SAID 80% OF AMERICANS FEEL THAT WAY. AND MEDICARE FOR ALL DOESN'T GET RID OF ALL PRIVATE INSURANCE, IT DOES FOR EVERYTHING BUT COSMETIC CARE. WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE DO NOT THINK OF FOR INSURANCE PURPOSE AND THE BIG ONE IS BIDEN AND BUSSING. SO KAMALA HARRIS WENT AFTER HIM, FOR THE TOPIC FROM YEARS AGO. SHE IS CAREFUL WHEN WHAT THEY SAID, THAT HE WORKED WITH AVOWED SEGREGATIONISTS TO OPPOSE BUSSING. AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HITTING HIM HARD AS HE TRIES TO SAY, HE CAN TAKE THE BANNER FOR HIS PARTY. BUT IF PEOPLE IN HIS PARTY SAY MAYBE HE IS NOT WHERE THE MAINSTREAM OF THE PARTY IS NOW. >> THAT WAS INTERESTING, THAT WAS THE MOMENT FOR EVERY PANELIST, THAT CAUGHT THEIR EYE, THE QUESTION ON BUSSING AND THE FACT THAT SENATOR HARRIS DID HOLD HAD HIS FEET TO THE FIRE. SO, WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU CLEARING THAT UP FOR US. >>> RIGHT NOW, WE WILL TAKE A QUICK BREAK, WE HOPE YOU STAY WITH US FOR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC DEBATE, RIGHT HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW. >>> WELCOME BACK TO NBC NEWS NOW, LET'S GO STRAIGHT WHERE WE ARE WATCHING THE DEBATE WITH THE COLLEGE STUDENTS. WHO DO THE STUDENTS THINK CAPTURED THEIR ATTENTION? >> OH, MAN, IT WAS A LIVELY ROOM IN HERE TONIGHT. A LOT OF HOT PICKS. AND I WILL ASK FOR THEM NOW. YOU HAD A LOT TO SAY WHEN WE WERE WATCHING AND I WANT THE TOP LINE REACTIONS RIGHT NOW. WHAT STOOD OUT AND WHAT WAS THE TAKE ON THE DEBATE OVERALL, COMPARED TO LAST NIGHT? >> I THINK VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SENATOR -- BUCKLED UNDER THE PRESSURE. WHEN THE HEAT WAS TURNED UP, THEY COULD NOT HOLD THEIR OWN. THAT WAS BIG, AND FOR SOMEBODY LIKE VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, HE IS, YOU KNOW, KAMALA HARRIS WAS TOUGH ON HIM TONIGHT. THE PRESIDENT WILL BE TOUGH ON HIM IN A GENERAL ELECTION. WILL HE HANDLE THAT? >> SPEAKING OF KAMALA HARRIS. I FELT THAT EVEN THOUGH TONIGHT A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES WERE ABLE TO COME AT JOE BIDEN FOR HIS CONTROVERSIAL PAST, I THINK THAT KAMALA BENEFITTED FROM PEOPLE NOT PICKING UP ON HER PAST AS SHE TALKED ABOUT HER ROLE IN REGARDS TO PRISON REFORM AND IMMIGRATION. I FEEL LIKE OTHER CANDIDATES SHOULD HAVE HELD HER FEET TO THE FIRE AS THEY HELD JOE BIDEN TO THAT STANDARD AS WELL. THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. HOWEVER, I DO FEEL THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO MAKE A VERY STRONG QUOTES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HEADLINERS AND FROM THAT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE QUOTE UNQUOTE WON THE DEBATE. I, HOWEVER DON'T THINK SO. >> YOU DON'T THINK PEOPLE CHECKED HER ENOUGH. BUT THE FACT THAT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN AND SHE WAS ABLE TO HOLD JOE BIDEN'S FEET TO THE FIRE AND NOBODY CAME BACK AT HER, WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT HER PERFORMANCE? >> DEFINITELY VERY WORRYSOME, IN THAT REGARD, AND ESPECIALLY, I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING BACK TO HER STATEMENTS ABOUT PRISON REFORM. SHE HAS A CONTROVERSIAL PAST ABOUT THAT AND THE FACT THAT NOBODY WAS ABLE TO BRING IT UP, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO KIND OF PAINT THE NARRATIVE OF INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FIGHTING FOR THESE RIGHTS IS SOMEWHAT A PROBLEM TO ME. >> DID SHE RESONATE WITH YOU GUYS TONIGHT? >> IT WAS IMPRESSIVE WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY. AND THE CURRENT POSITIONS AND THINGS SHE SAID RESONATED WITH ME. BUT I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE WHAT SHE BROUGHT ON OUT OF JOE BIDEN WAS LIKE -- WAS A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT THAT I FELT THAT HE DOUBLED DOWN ON THE PAST POSITION. SHE WAS ABLE TO BRING OUT THE NASTY RACIAL TENSIONS THERE. AND THE FACT THAT HE STILL IS KIND OF HOLDING SOME OF THOSE OLD VIEWS TODAY. SO -- >> YEAH, I MEAN, YOU GUYS WHEN I ASKED YOU ABOUT JOE BIDEN BEFORE THE DEBATE. I ASKED WHO WAS EXCITED, NOBODY RAISED THEIR HANDS. WHAT DID HIS PERFORMANCE TONIGHT DO TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION OF HIM? >> HE IS HE WAS A DISTRACTION, I FEEL LIKE THE ENTIRE DEBATE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES WERE USING THEIR TIME TO ATTACK HIM AND GOAD HIM AND HE SPENT THE TIME DEFENDING HIMSELF, SAYING THIS IS WHAT I DID, THIS IS WHAT I DID. AND HE RARELY TALKED ABOUT WHAT HE PLANNED TO DO. THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF SUBSTANCE TO THAT. I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN THE CANDIDATES LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG AND ANDREW YANG, THEY WERE MORE FOCUSED ON WHAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO. THEY DID NOT GET AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK AS THE HEADLINERS THEY USED THEIR TIME TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY PLANNED TO DO. >> RIGHT, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN HEARING SUBSTANCE AND POLICY, YOU TALKED ABOUT WANTING MORE CIVIL DISCOURSE, TRYING TO ELEVATE THE RHETORIC. HOW DID THE CANDIDATES DO WITH THAT TONIGHT? AND COMPARE IT TO LAST NIGHT? >> I FELT THAT THE MOST DISAPPOINTING THING ABOUT THE NIGHT, WE DID GET TO SEE THEIR PERSONALITIES BUT NOT THEIR POLICIES AND HOW THEY DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES THROUGH THE POLICY. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE GOT TO SEE. AND I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEIR PLAN IS TO BE AND HOW THEY SET THEMSELVES APART FROM EACH OTHER. >> I THINK IT'S CLEAR WHAT THEY ARE AGAINST. THEY ARE AGAINST TRUMP, THEY ARE AGAINST WALL STREET. WHAT I LIKED ABOUT KAMALA HARRIS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG, THEY WERE FOR SOMETHING. KAMALA HARRIS WANTED TO GIVE A CREDIT TO PEOPLE MAKING UNDER $100,000 A YEAR. THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE. IT MADE HER A STAND OUT AS WORKING FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE. >> DID YOU GET CLARITY FROM TONIGHT OR BOTH NIGHTS IN TERMS OF WHO WILL GET YOUR SUPPORT AND ABLE TO LAST IN THE RACE? >> I THINK IT'S FUNNY HOW TONIGHT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE NIGHT WHERE INDIVIDUALS WERE MORE EXCITED BECAUSE OF THE BIG NAME CANDIDATES THAT WERE GATHERED TOGETHER. UNFORTUNATELY, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT YESTERDAY'S DEBATE WAS A LOT MORE BASED ON ACTUAL POLICY THAT THE CANDIDATES WANTED TO FOCUS ON. ESPECIALLY THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WERE ALL HAVING BEFORE. AND ESPECIALLY WHAT SHE SAID, UNFORTUNATELY TONIGHT IT WAS ALL ABOUT TRUMP. TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP. AND AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, YES. WE ARE ALREADY KNOW WHAT TRUMP IS, WHAT HE STANDS FOR. WE GET IT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO -- INDIVIDUAL TO HELP US. WE ARE NOT GOING TO JUST ACCEPT WHAT YOU SAY TO US. IF YOU GET IN OFFICE, WE WANT YOU TO STAND BY. >> NIGHT ONE, ACTUALLY, SEEMS LIKE IT WON WITH YOU GUYS. THAT, THAT TOOK THE CAKE. SO, WHO WON FROM BOTH NIGHTS? LET'S START WITH YOU. >> NO ONE. >> TONIGHT, NO ONE WON. YESTERDAY WAS -- >> I THINK -- WON FOR BOTH NIGHTS. HIS PERSONALITY AND POLICIES. >> KAMALA HARRIS TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD SAY OVERALL PROBABLY -- PREVAILED. >> I THINK SECRETARY -- >> I THOUGHT CASTRO DID STAND OUT DURING THE LAST DEBATE, I THOUGHT ELIZABETH WARREN DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB. >> WHICH ONE BETWEEN BOTH NIGHTS? >> I LIKED CASTRO, BECAUSE I WAS NOT EXPECTING ANYTHING OUT OF HIM AND HE STOOD OUT DURING THE DEBATE. AND PETE BUTTIGIEG DID A GOOD JOB. AND ANDREW YANG DID A GOOD JOB. >> I THINK KAMALA HARRIS DID WELL IN BOTH NIGHTS OF THE DEBATE. I LIKE THAT SHE STOOD FOR SOMETHING CLEARLY AND I LIKE THAT SHE WAS A STRONG SPEAKER. SHE ASSERTED HERSELFER AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SEE IN A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY TAKE ON TRUMP. >> WOW. SO, STILL A PRETTY HEAVY VOTE FOR CASTRO. BUT KAMALA GOT THE SPOTLIGHT TONIGHT. SO, THREW HAVE IT. THE DEBATE IS DONE AND WE WILL SEE HOW THE REST GO. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PANEL OF STUDENTS. >> SOMETHING THAT JOY REALLY STRUCK ME. I WANT TO BRING IN OUR GUEST AGAIN. JOY, WAS A YOUNG WOMAN IN THE FRONT THAT SAID, KAMALA DID NOT ACTUALLY WIN BECAUSE KAMALA DID NOT GET A DOSE OF HER OWN MEDICINE. NO ONE DID THAT TO HER ON OUR PROSECUTION RECORD IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE. IS THAT TRUE OR FALSE? DID SHE WIN BECAUSE SHE DID NOT TAKE THE HEAT HERSELF? >> THAT MAY BE TRUE. I THOUGHT SHE STOLE THE SHOW. I THINK SHE CAME OFF ASSERTIVE. CONFIDENT, SHE ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION WITH A, YOU KNOW, A DIRECT WAY. I THINK THEY CAME OUT ON TOP. I WALKED AWAY PERSONALLY HAVING A BETTER IDEA WHERE SHE STOOD ON ISSUES. >> WHAT ABOUT, JACKIE, HER CRIMINAL JUSTICE RECORD. >> SHE HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF SCRUTINY FOR NOT BEING PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH. SHE WAS ABLE TO EXPLOIT A FEW OPPORTUNITIES IN ORDER TO TOUT HER RECORD AS ATTORNEY GENERAL WHEN SHE CALLED OUT BIDEN ON THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S TRACK RECORD WITH INTRODUCING -- WHICH WAS ONE POLICY OF HER FORMER PRESIDENT THAT SHE WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF. BUT, THAT WAS THE BENEFIT OF PREPARATION. I MEAN, SHE, WHEN HAD YOU ARE ON THE OFFENSIVE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ATTACKING YOU FOR. AND IT WAS CLEAR, THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING, ATTACKING BIDEN ON THE OPPOSITION, WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE HAD TEE'ED UP AND SHE WENT FOR IT AND DID NOT LET UP ON BIDEN. THAT WAS A DEFINING MOMENT OF THE WEEK. THAT WILL BE THE DEFINING MOMENT OF THE ELECTION SO FAR. >> AND SHE MADE IT PERSONAL. >> SHE DID. >> AND WHAT ABOUT BUTTIGIEG, NANCY, WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT WHY THE POLICE FORCE BACK IN SOUTH BEND WAS NOT DIVERSE, HE SAID PLAINLY, I COULD NOT GET IT DONE. WAS THAT REFRESHINGLY HONEST? OR WAS THAT ENOUGH? >> IT WAS HONEST, BUT IT WAS NOT ENOUGH. HE FELL SHORT. I MEAN, YOU GAVE ME IN ALL OF THE REASONS WHY IT DID NOT GET DONE FT. BUT YOU DID NOT GIVE ME, WHAT WILL YOU DO DIFFERENTLY? RIGHT? YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BREAK THIS OPEN. YOU CANNOT WALK IN TO THIS NEXT STAGE OF OUR PRESIDENCY, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN A VERY CONCRETE A WAY. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY? I DID NOT HEAR THAT AT ALL. >> JACKIE, WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN CONGRESSMAN SWALWELL LOOKED AT HIM ANDSAID, WELL, FIRE YOUR POLICE CHIEF AND HE DID NOT SAY ANYTHING. >> RIGHT, AND I THINK THAT WAS INDICATIVE OF MAYOR PETE'S APPROACH TO POLITICS IN GENERAL. LET'S SEE THE PROCESS PLAY OUT. WE ARE CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION AND NOT COMING TO RASH DECISIONS. BUT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE BEST OF ANSWERS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY IN AFTER ERA OF THE POLITICS WHERE THINGS ARE PRETTY, ARE NOT RULES BASED. AT LEAST IN TRUMP'S WORLD. I THINK COMPARING HIM TO SOMEBODY LIKE CASTRO, WHO YESTERDAY, REALLY GOT AT HIS CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AND HIS PLEASING REFORM AND WAS ABLE TO TOUT ALL OF THE POLICIES, MAYOR PETE WAS NOT ABLE TO SHOW THE SAME, AND SO, TO ME, THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS A STEP FORWARDER AND A BIG CONTRAST TO BIDEN. WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU TEE HIM UP NEXT TO CASTRO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING WHEN THEY ARE SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, IT WILL SHOW. >> ONE THING WE HAD SPECKS ON. HE HAD VERY STRONG WORDS. HE SAID, CHINA IS USING TECHNOLOGY FOR THE PERFECTION OF DICTATOR SHIP. DID HE REALLY LAYOUT A DEMOCRATIC ALTERNATIVE TO DEALING WITH CHINA? >> NO, NOT REALLY. YOU HEARD OTHERS MENTIONING THE PUSH BACK AGAINST CHINA TO CONFRONT THEIR BEHAVIOR. CERTAINLY YOU HEARD THE MENTION OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, THE ISSUE THAT THEY CAN RALLY AROUND. I DID NOT HEAR MUCH SPECIFICS WITH ANY FOREIGN POLICY. >> WHAT ABOUT WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP. HE SAID THERE'S 11 MILLION PEOPLE, BUT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIVIDED US ON THE COMMON GROUND ISSUE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> IT'S A COMMON GROUND ISSUE, WITH A KMOND BIG END GOAL. WE DISAGREE IN THE DETAILS. WE HAVE BEEN DIVIDED ON THE ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME. SO, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP, WAS THE OBAMA RECORD, THEY CALL IT THE DEPORTATION CHIEF. THE DEPORTER IN CHIEF. WAS NOT FAMILY SEPARATION, IT'S DEPORTATION. IT'S A DIFFERENCE THERE AND WHAT IS NOW, IS VIOLENTLY AGGRESSIVE WITH CHILDREN BEING TAKEN FROM FAMILIES AND CHILDREN DYING. WHAT IS NOT BEING CALLED OUT IN ALL OF THE THINGS FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICES REFORM TO THE BUSSING SITUATION AND THE IMMIGRATION, THE BIG ISSUE ON THE TABLE IS AROUND RACIAL EQUITY AND NOBODY IS CALLING IT OUT. NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR WHAT IT IS. IT'S THE ISSUE OF RACIAL EQUITY. AND UNTIL, WE GET COMFORTABLE, ABOUT TALKING ABOUT IT, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES AND IT WILL SURFACE IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND IN DIFFERENT POLICY ISSUES BUT THE UNKMRT WE SAW FOR BIDEN NOT KNOWING HOW TO RESPOND TO THAT WAS HURTFUL CONVERSATION TO BUTTIGIEG NOT BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT, I DIDN'T GET IT DONE, IT WAS PULLING BACK AND NOT WANTING TO COME BACK OUT. MARIANNE WILLIAMSON CAME OUT AND SAID, LOOK, I DON'T THINK THAT AMERICA IS RACIST, BUT I THINK THEY ARE WOEFULLY UNDER EDUCATED ON THE ISSUE OF RACE. AND KAMALA SAID, NO, I ARE WILL FINISH ANSWERING THAT QUESTION. BECAUSE, OH, BY THE WAY WITH, I'M THE ONLY PERSON OF COLOR STANDING ON THE STAGE. DO YOU THINK THEY WERE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON ADDRESSING THE ISSUE? >> MARIANNE WILLIAMSON WAS BRINGING UP REPARATIONS. SHE SAID THAT IT WOULD BE A WAY TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMATIC INEQUALITY THAT EXISTS IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW. WHAT I THINK WAS SO EFFECTIVE, KAMALA SAYING, HAVING SO MANY PERSONALER ANECDOTES THE VISION AND TWEETS OF BEING A YOUNG GIRL AND DEALING WITH BUSSING. TO ME, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY RESONATED. >> BECAUSE ON THE SAME ISSUE OF REPARATION. YOU MENTION THE BREAKFAST CLUB, EVERYONE HAS BEEN ASKED AND THE HOST OF THE SHOW WILL SAY, THEY HAVE NOT HEARD ANY SPECIFICS. YOU SAY IT'S IMPORTANT, IN THEORY, WHAT -- WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? IS IT A ISSUE ADDRESSING OR A CHECK? STAY WITH US HERE ON NBC NEWS >>> LAST NIGHT, DECK DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HELD BACK MORE WHEN THEY WERE REFERENCING PRESIDENT TRUMP, BUT TONIGHT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT STORY. >> LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, I HEAR THAT QUESTION, WHERE WAS THAT QUESTION WHEN THE REPUBLICANS AND DONALD TRUMP PASSED THE TAX BILL THAT BENEFITTED THE TOP 1%. >> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT TRUMP IS A PHONY, THAT TRUMP IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR AND A RACIST AND HE LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. HE SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO STAND UP FOR WORKING FAMILIES. WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP, YOU ARE NOT STANDING FOR WORKING FAMILIES WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO THROW 32 MILLION PEOPLE OFF THE HEALTH CARE THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT 83% OF YOUR TAX BENEFITS GO TO THE TOP 1%. THAT IS HOW WE BEAT TRUMP. WE EXPOSE HIM FOR THE FRAUD THAT HE IS. >> WHAT DOES DONALD TRUMP DO? HE SAYS GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM, THAT IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF OUR AMERICA AND OUR VALUES AND IT HAS TO END. >> WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS DONE, IS NOT ONLY ATTACK THE CHILDREN AND DEMONIZE THE IMMIGRANTS HE IS ATTACKING A BASIC PRINCIPAL OF AMERICA'S MORALE CORE. WE OPEN OUR HEARTS TO THE STRANGER. THE WORST THING HE HAS DONE, HE HAS DIVERTED THE FUNDS AWAY FROM CROSS BORDER TERRORISM AND HE HAS GIVEN THAT MONEY TO THE FOUR -- IN PRESIDENT OBAMA DID A HECK OF A JOB. COMPARE HIM TO WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING IS IMMORALE. THIS PRESIDENT THOUGH, FOR IMMIGRANTS, THERE'S NOTHING HE WILL NOT DO TO SEPARATE A FAMILY, CAGE A CHILD, OR ERASE THEIR EXISTENCE. >> OH, ONE OF THOR WORST THINGS ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT HE HAS DONE TO THE COUNTRY, IS HE HAS TORN APART THE MORALE FABRIC OF WHO WE ARE. WHEN HE STARTED TO SEPARATE CHILDREN AT THE BORDER FROM THEIR PARENTS. THE FACT THAT SEVEN CHILDREN HAVE DIED IN HIS CUSTODY. THE FACT HAD THAT DOZENS OF CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AND THEY HAVE NO PLAN TO REUNITE THEM. >> ON DAY ONE, WE TAKE OUT OUR EXECUTIVE ORDER PEN AND RESCIND EVERYTHING ON THIS ISSUE THAT TRUMP HAS DONE. >> WHAT IS THE GREATEST NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES? IT'S DONALD TRUMP. AND I WILL IT WILL YOU WHY. AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. I AGREE, CLIMBED CHANGE IS A THREAT. HE DENIES THE SCIENCE. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT NORTH KOREA, REAL THREAT IN TERMS OF NUCLEAR ARSENAL, HE EMBRACES KIM JONG-UN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, YOU HAVE HARNESSED FEAR FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES AND ONLY LOVE CAN CAST THAT OUT. I, I HAVE A FEELING YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, I WILL HARNESS LOVE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES AND I WILL MEET YOU ON THE FIELD AND SIR, LOVE WILL WIN. >> SO, FOR FINAL THOUGHTS. LET GET BACK TO THE PANEL. WAS IT STRATEGIC AND WAS IT SMART TO MAKE TRUMP MORE OF THE FOCUS TONIGHT? >> WELL TRUMP ENJOYED IT. HE WAS LIVE TWEETING. HE DID NOT SAY IT WAS BORING THIS TIME. AND YOU SAW HIM GO AFTER THE DEMOCRATS FOR THEIR POSITIONS ON PROVIDING HEALTH CARE TO UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND CROSSING THE BORDER. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK? I THINK THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT TRUMP TONIGHT. I THINK THAT WAS MISSING FROM LAST NIGHT AND YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE NOTHING ABOUT THE MOMENT IS NORMAL. >> WHAT DID YOU THINK, DID YOU FEEL LIKE THIS TONIGHT, GAVE DONALD TRUMP MORE FODER BECAUSE OF THE DIVISION? >> I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE THING. IF I'M A DEMOCRAT, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN THE STATES WHERE IT MATTERS. IF YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA, TRUMP BEAT HILARY CLINTON BY 44,000 VOTES AND IN FLORIDA BY 100,000 VOTES. THAT IS NOT A WIDE MARGIN THAT IS NOT BEATABLE. IF I'M GOING TO MAKE THE CASE THAT I CAN BEAT THIS GUY, HOW DO I MAKE UP THE MARGINS? THAT HAS TO BE THE QUESTION WHEN WHEN YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT POLITICS. >> IT WAS NOT JUST ABOUT FOCUSING ON DONALD TRUM. IT WAS ABOUT FOCUSING ON EACH OTHER. AND THEN, WE SAW A SIMILAR TACTIC TONIGHT AS LAST NIGHT, THESE GUYS WERE POLLING IN THE SINGLE DIGITS ON THE END OF THE STAGE, THEY WERE COMING FOR THE GUYS IN THE CENTER OF THE STAGE. WE SAW -- GO FOR BIDEN, OR BENNETT GOING FOR BERNIE. DID THAT WORK? >> I THINK IT IS HARD TO KEEP TRACK WHERE PEOPLE STAND ON THE ISSUE. TO STAND OUT, YOU HAVE TO GO AFTER THE GUY IN CHARGE. YOU ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, YOU ARE NOT RUNNING TO JUST BE THERE. ONE OFFICE. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK GOING BACK TO THE THING I SAID EARLIER WITH ABOUT KA PAULA HARRIS MUCH. IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW UP AND ACT LIKE YOU ARE THERE TO BE PRESIDENT. YOU ARE NOT THERE TO BE VICE PRESIDENT, YOU ARE NOT RUNNING JUST TO UP YOUR NAME RECOGNITION. YOU ARE RUNNING TO DO THE JOB AND I THINK GOING AFTER BIDEN DIRECTLY SHOWS YOU ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON SOMEBODY WHO WAS A VICE PRESIDENT. >>BUT WAS IT AFFECTIVE? >> I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY STOOD OUT AS MUCH AS SECRETARY CASTRO DID LAST NIGHT. YOU SAW BENNETT AND HICKENLOOPER AND THEY WENT AFTER MAYOR PETE. >> I CONSIDER HER IN A DIFFERENT TIER, GOING AFTER THE BIG CANDIDATES. KAMALA IS IN A LEAGUE OF HER OWN. BUT, YOU KNOW, MICHAEL BENNETT AND THE LOWER TIER CANDIDATES DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO HELP THEIR THIRD AND FOURTH ROUND DEBATE. >> PEOPLE ARE TUNED IN AND CURIOUS. WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT THAT WOULD REALLY JAZZ UP THE PEOPLE WHO STAY HOME BACK IN 2016? >> I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, NOT YET, BUT IT'S EARLY. RIGHT? THERE'S SO MANY DEBATES TO COME. CANDIDATES HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THE OPERATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURES. WE DO NOT PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THIS. DEBATE PERFORMANCES ARE GREAT, BUT ARE YOU LAYING THE FOUNDATION, WHICH IS HOW YOU TARGET, HOW YOU MOBILIZE A CONSTITUENTSY THAT PROPELS YOU TO VICTORY. AND IT'S TOO EARLY TO PREDICT THIS YET. >> YEAH, THEY ARE FOCUSED ON THE PROGRESSIVE VOTERS AND THE QUESTION IS, BY TAKING THAT STANCE, WILL IT BE HARDER TO APPEAL TO VOTERS IN THE GENERAL. >> AND THE QUESTION IS, WILL IT WORK WE HAVE A HARD BREAK IN A MOMENT. I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR COMING IN TONIGHT. AND ALL THOSE THAT ARE NOT ON THE COUCH. AND ALL OF THE STUDENTS AND OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU AT HOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING, THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. DON'T GO ANYWHERE, WE WILL REPLAY NIGHT TWO OF THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE, JUST COMING UP NEXT. OTHERWISE, TUNE IN TOMORROW AT 3:00 P.M. EASTERN FOR MORE ON NBC NEWS NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPENDING YOUR EVENING WITH US.
All literal steppers. NONE of these people can be trusted to leave our civil rights alone. It blows my mind that they are all attempting to infringe on the bill of rights so adamantly. Unacceptable -- get out there and prevent this folks. We all know that it will get really nasty if one of them gains power and immediately starts abusing it to take our property -- instant Boogaloo time.
I love how the moderate democratic position is forcing me to sell my ar to the government or they will come and arrest me.
Keep your pistols, keep your rifles, keep your shotguns. We'll take away the most dangerous weapons from the most dangerous people.
Casually forgetting that the vast majority of shootings are carried out with handguns, rifles, and shotguns.
SS: Shall NOT
Just a heads up: "Playback on other websites has been disabled by the video owner."
Can still be watched on Youtube, but might wanna post a mirror for convenience.
Huh? But playback cuts out at 02:35.