DCS: A Beautiful Mess. Its History, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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Channel: X-CHECK
Views: 57,893
Rating: 4.8065114 out of 5
Keywords: dcs, documentary, history, combat simulator, digital combat simulator, rant, best simulator, worst simulator, review, falcon 4.0, falcon bms
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Length: 32min 44sec (1964 seconds)
Published: Fri Oct 11 2019
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I agree with XCheck 95%
i beg ED, please take a pause on new aircraft and concentrate on COre systems.
Vulcan, weather, clouds, ATC MULTISEAT... multiseat... dynamic campaign.... multi seat, please fix mulitplayer sync..
we are grateful to have anything, but after so many years..wish that there can be just a ONE full year (just one year focus) attention on just core engine improvements than new aircraft.
I just want to fly the huey with friends... i just want to put my friend on the mini-gun while i fly him around..
i brought two copies...multiseat was pitched as a feature ,then years later it was out of early access.. and features forgotten.. :(
I also brought F16. to support ED. but i havent flown it, probably not in a while.. i support ED, in hopes that it will fix the core game!
The censorship thing is spot on as well. I sent Wags a PM through the forums saying I disagreed with their choice of moving developers from the Hornet to the Viper and got banned for a year. It wasn’t a “reeeee fuck you ED” message. I simply stated I think they made the wrong decision and I would not support them until the Hornet was finished. The reason they listed for the ban was “using PM system to attack staff.” I don’t see how that could be viewed as attacking staff. What other recourse aside from silently voting with my wallet is there to let the developers know how some of us in the community feel? Sad.
Not gonna lie ... I laughed like an idiot when I came to this part
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Finished the video: Pretty much spot on, lovely sim but too many modules are being worked on and new features are not being pushed/polished due to no competition.
As i said to nick in the other thread in a small essay what we got last week is a disgrace and even the patch today is a mess. I love DCS, I do.. I love it that much that back when I worked for Iris I was really annoyed when it was dropped due to reasons I wasn't privy to. It is as you said the Best and the Worst of simulations and of games and If this was a relationship between two people I'd be asking why it hadn't been reported because it's very much an abusive one... were we the customer are the abused, and we keep coming back.. Not because we like being abused, but because in the end.. we don't have any other option as you said.
I honestly hope Nick takes the feedback and the like it's being offered honestly and with out attacking from a lot of us, but actions are what will speak larger then words, words are fine.. but we've been here and had the promises given and then broken just look at the end of year list of what 'next year will bring' etc each time and how little of it materialises, look at the lack of SCUDS or the excuses we get about 'well EA' or 'Open beta' or 'well it's a game as a service' etc.
There comes a point were those words become meaningless and actions need to start backing them up where as developers ED need to stop and look at what they are doing and go 'how do we start repairing our communities faith in us?' that is honestly what I'd be doing right now if I was Nick and Matt, more then anything else I'd not be 'clamming up' I'd be throwing the doors open, working out proper roadmaps and deadlines, and going 'ok we are GOING to get these done, and we'll show you that, expect X over the short term 3 month period, expect Y in the 'mid term 6 month period and Z over the next 12 months. We expect you to hold us to these, but in return we expect that you'll understand that these are the EXACT features we are working on and there what you'll get beyond bug fixes. etc.. But that doesn't seem to be the way things go.
Great presentation! Mostly agreed (except for Falcon / EA)
My number one request of ED would be to charge for the game itself. Attention follows money, so let's pay attention (pun intended) to the game itself.
Take X-Plane for example... the native aircraft models are mostly okay, but clearly the lions share of the development effort goes into the sim itself.
Want a high quality Full Fidelity model like Mirage or Tiger? Be prepared to pay pretty much the same $$ to fly in XP (a la TBM, King Air & FF 757).
Not at all saying ED should lower the fidelity of the aircraft, but rather that DCS World itself is *more important* than the next aircraft module, and so deserves to be directly funded.
Some folks DON'T WANT a hangar full of aircraft they'll mostly never fly (i'm a plane whore, so this AIN'T me!).
Most folks, based on the larger gaming industry, WOULD willingly pay for the game itself every two - three years, providing the game features have advanced or added in that time (again, a la X-Plane).
It would also reduce a LOT of the drama over the pending Nimitz module, for example. It could still be a DLC, but then more of an upgrade rather than a standalone module that's probably going to sell for $50-ish.
Anyhow, thanks again for putting this together - much appreciated. Was REALLY great to see the old footage of both games!
Extremely well done video. Everyone needs to watch and come to the same conclusion as he did.
Accurate and fair criticism I think.
Hopefully ED starts to work on their core flight sim experience, one day.
Pretty spot on in a lot of aspects. Most in fact. He is fair I agree with him about 90%.