Darksiders Genesis Developers React to 42 Minute Speedrun

this was our guy we said to were like hey you know what let's have a fight with no ads it's mano mano just you and him toe-to-toe whoopin some ass and and offense for it he can't get past some wood spikes look at the practicing social distancing it's all good a timely commentary Billy [Music] all right Darksiders Genesis being broken horribly and beautifully I'm Ryan Stefanelli I'm president at airship and game director on Darksiders Genesis and here with Joe mad hey Joe Madureira creative director and we also have Billy speak Billy he's gonna die there all right hurry up get to Wilson - this is going too fast we got our hi I'm Wilson Vegas I'm a senior designer worked on Genesis this is really how did we not find that what is all this extra G oh this is one minute how many months took to design it just okay we need to do time walls fell straight to the right for a speedrunner to sit and watch something like this happen who's playing this can I get like detailed instructions because I want how do you get that boost without even maybe just just watch the controller on the side there they clearly did not read the tutorials and I'm wow going straight for the opie cores I take it getting some points he doesn't need to unlock those ask those areas of the of the hub decision landing yeah you know it is so flattering as a developer when you know that peep spent enough time to figure this kind of stuff out playing your game even if it breaks it okay we're gonna see a lot of wall climbing I'm pretty sure these secrets that you have to backtrack for like super annoying for people who just want to get it on the first time like they look they look at the map and they see the icons are like how do I get it you know just pop D character swap out of finishing the and the animation to loot the chest yeah okay all those fleabags can do is just watch horror is all this is occurring when you think you've made the collision high enough and you haven't to when you can go on top of the ceiling how many times do you have to try that before you you get that rhythm down to catch that Ghost up point we're supposed to feel shame right this is like a 40-minute roast that's basically we haven't gotten to any of the bosses yet but I'm already you're starting to feel some pain like a phantom payment like how they're gonna cheese him yeah tells me the bosses see that's where we're gonna see him painfully have to play the game there right away I'm curious to see if there's a way that she's the bosses I don't think there is he's just gonna have to fight this guy it's going to fight the roller demon I'm curious now control yes our one a cinematic boss intro we did this one and then never didn't I see this is why you give everything a ranged attack this could be the beginning of a pattern yeah fast whose idea was it to do infinite basic ammo but he's shooting faster out of hot streak than with hot streak he's also smacking his face look at that lava floating over midair right we joked about the rolling pin toss we should have done it honestly at this point we just need like a teleport behind you for any enemy beautiful spotty interaction that happen give it a quest achievement see I wonder if he ever switches to war rather he just did to get out of the end to get out of the what what a nuisance day they are i'll have beautiful dialogue those beautiful character portraits did he just pick the Hard difficulty yeah is that just to really demean the effort it's like I don't know it doesn't matter what difficulty it is showing some of our giant floating blocks to create shadows look through the window you know Symphony of the Night is one of the greatest that's speedrun very funny I think one of my favorites are just watching somebody do a co-op speedrun of Guardian of light which of course many of us played in research of this particular game and some of those speedruns were pretty amazing the way they were able to use some of the cott mechanics to get outside the level then use regions to kill themselves and come back together yeah he was trying to you know okay what's he gonna do this whole sequence there's got to be a way out that was just skill that wasn't even really cheating that was just skillful not that I'm saying that the cheating isn't skillful because it is there's no way he's gonna have to get he's gonna go right over this gear yeah and there we go I remember this gear being a pain in the ass to make collision for anyway other bosses in the game will see them I'm sure there's two that's two so far that we're just totally skipped mini-bosses you can't skip your real bosses that's true if you had a cheaper speeding up the load screens we want to know it you know if anything that biggest encounter so far has been opening up the gear casket couldn't slow that thing down speed it up rather okay this one will be interesting if he actually has to go light all four of the braziers or if he finds some other way to get out of the level and reach because that's probably what I try to do cuz it is out there it's out there somewhere if you know where it wait Oh mr. jump was that the plan anymore yeah I think it's a way that the character swap worked or got placed right where the brazier was so we picked that item up doesn't have to wait for it there we go get another chest all these zones we made we're know what we're never gonna see is the horse we're never gonna see ruin not faster than gonna hop through that's two big uns it was a nice kill shot through the razor lighting though we absolutely did and then we cut it because it was such a problem well he wants that one back that would ensue if horses could still jump Plus speed running oh my god I think you just like invented like jumping he did it again right back to word the broader aggressive it never did like the angle on that throw in this case I actually was expecting him to find a spot where he could get to the edge of the level and jump out to wherever else in game space the the cabin part is cuz it's out there we just teleport you to it maybe it's just not loaded I guess we can't he's already on his way to the teleporter he dashed towards it yeah that's right sit and patiently watch our cutscene there's nothing you can do 10 minutes between likes and didn't fire ice oh he's gonna completely skip the following sequence isn't he I shall want to see him he just went right past the choke point oh yeah here we go he's not gonna mess with it all that work into making those pillars fall in that coordinated fashion so players could just barely make it alive not even triggered this is definitely the most trivialized of any of the levels so far you're not going to get to see what he's skipping obviously though we're getting like a huge facade that was a well timed err - I'm just kind of good right notes out don't mind me bugs me up to fix and he has to watch this dialogue because up there we go as soon as the animation was done if the arena and then he's either gonna have to have gets off the horse that's too slow we should have given this guy the game although if you think about it if we had fixed this bug we would have pretty much there would be no interest in speedruns it's all based around this stripe cancel combo amazing that we managed to time the the the discussion here to a speedrun not just the horse run I just like seeing stripe and or carry on this dialogue well this absurdity is occurring to know like right there you can see another part of the level hidden behind one of the walls it's not actually connected to betraying how creatively we use geography out there that's there Wow Oh teleport just know he completely skipped the elevators designer would love to see that considering remember how much hell he went through to make the elevator down to this spot work our shame is based on how much of this he actually manages to skip now that's a real bug we should have a precious seconds what all those are braziers up there but kind of like pizzas that alight on here we go we're finally gets a little spotlight just cuz he climbs walls better than strike like 99% strife but our war is helping out that was us and because he skipped a bunch of the load regions the respawn regions when he killed himself he was back here so he got the thing he needed use the kill region to teleport back Wow but where's he get ok but let's think about that how much time do you have to spend hopping around the level to discover that those load regions and hidden chunks of the level that are floating out in space are there we need to make them further apart on our next game OC hey did you catch that Wilson this time he actually went up to casual because he has to fight him that's right yeah he had to fight him you know he's gonna get back up there he's gonna do what he did to them yeah you can already see it gonna be perched they're gonna be pretty shot oh yeah Oh does he have a lot of shot before used to pose too cuz he got it out of a check that's a backtrack item isn't it he shouldn't have lava shot against my mom thank you can get it on the first time yeah because you access it from the top how do we get the info we should hire him he's so thorough love it he's straight-up fighting it though I thought he was a Stan I thought he was gonna cheat okay that's right hey it took some damage to you know look there's nowhere for him to cheese them and let's get up on top everything good job Wilson how far so good will even have to wait for this finale phase to be the only cameo you know we're probably gonna see the chaos form and Anarchy form and all the boss fights huh yeah that's oh sorry Ludo and powerhouse we're not seeing your cutscenes today most of curious to see when he's gonna stop to buy things versus just going into a level and skipping everything probably gonna go I'm buying like shoppings freeze right before boss fights or any other unskipable gating combat demands we go I'm sure they're not gonna upgrade dodge that way you slide after dodging down there's gonna be no creature core use P that means that you have to get hit to need the creature course alright now let's see that skills so I'm guessing he probably memorized all the waves so he knows exactly which weapon to use and when where to stand right there's a small small window of invulnerability when they run in with a portal bit so get some free hits and as they're coming out the arena is most notably infamous in development is having replaced level seven so then level eight which is our div facing term became level seven as far as players concerned players were concerned and then we got super confused whenever someone was talking about level eight we said wait which level eight our level later the players level eight and it progressed from there pretty much anything after seven at multiple aims that we could be confused by oh wow he's just tanking him down no real way to make these waves go any faster though which is interesting it's a little bit of war action come on still one of my favorite moves in the game blade geyser homage to Darksiders one definitely feels like he felt in Darksiders one like very very often that was the goal right although man if you play Darksiders one he is so damn slow compared to genesis you feel slow compared to strife so the net effect is there but man Darksiders one combat was pretty slow especially if you plead Darksiders 2 and then Darksiders 1 right death was crazy almost there strife was very successful in being a glass cannon though because if you're not really well-versed on exactly how to use some of these high-powered abilities war is a nice fall back yes one more people complain about stripe being underpowered then once they figured out how to play it out like oh wait he's actually more powerful especially as Anarchy form I don't think we ever even came close to balancing his anarchy form to worst chaos should have made it to the taking damage actually reduced your amount of time in the form some pay for damage only for speedrunners though there's the talisman talisman eleventh hour edition just some sloppy women down that was probably DC cameo in this run never see her again here we go level seven otherwise known as level eight this is another big open level though that I feel is rife with opportunities to perch on top of things and fly all over the place so okay and avoid using the horse horse yeah any of the backtrack secrets Wow yeah that's that's true he's just gonna hop up over everything at knee and oh let's see maybe uses the portal you just yeah I'm just gonna jump all the way and so normally you'd have to interact with this portal here Oh which she's gonna do maybe buddy found that it was worth the load maybe I couldn't thread the needle are enough to buy Anthony entrance and this is full of low walls so oh yeah he's gonna go straight to catacombs feel oh wait are they missed oh good there yeah but now he has to fight him with the dead lords alive so or whatever scared looking at that with the others the other dread Walker so alive he would have whupped their ass what does that range it should put damage Regents and all the invisible collision satisfying shower boss core is gonna ignore it this there was a fight there I didn't see stripe doing any fighting saw the others trying strife was chilling let's see who does the dam the dam to go out of verticality want to see how to do that I guess the way the Geo is set up he could just climb the exterior of the dam there's probably a faster way to do it but he gets up there and actually flies over to where the day why was there even collision there yeah just go over to the dam it goes straight to the bathroom even holy [ __ ] it didn't even have the line the dam okay that's a new record for highest percentage of the level skipped we gotta see this little ass if we do do the thing I would estimate that was actually 90% of the level skipped but yeah now he actually this is gonna grind him to a halt he's cursing the name of whoever built this boss fight for making him actually fight him that's right what's he doing with the avoidin I guess because you can spam gravity shot you think I'm a pretty good chunk each time doesn't look at that like input spam it's just going crazy on about Ryan I was using it in hot streak they're spawning so fast I can't jump down they're blocking each other the only time I've seen the man is when the players getting impatient and pushing the map button because they know they have to hold it in order to commission I did good though on the whole bag you can see that section got some good gains what does he need knees Raph sorry you know because when testing this I always hated how long it took to get through the first time tutorial for that is he remember yep I was testing something that had a hole the safe data that didn't have cores unlocked run through that and set them up hey who is this bird like do we not have him speedrunners name like we should address on the by their earnings or title [Music] wait you skipped the no he didn't wait is it gonna work I'm back up I know he's down there didn't even get to watch Belial pick out it might be if a lot of people who are Darksiders fans might not know that Belial was a Dark Shadows to boss because he was in DLC so he's an OG guy well then see the gravity shot would have been really useful here with this whole phase where he's consuming the ghouls it didn't look like he was really concerned with it though he was just going he was tanking through the damage yeah I didn't realize that was so did so much damage in hot streak should use that more often they're like little grenades I use taking the time to kill him I seem to ignore him or the first time too easily this guy went through yeah he was a actually all of our bosses were pretty tough they're very technically intimidating no easy way out when you're designing a Darksiders boss it's true and the music is good say the burger bar this is how like we just always have to make things look super good like to look at all the faced with all the customs of Malta there was at one point we considered making this like an isometric boss killer type game where all you were doing was hunting elite level creatures we briefly discussed it the all boss fight Darksiders mr. Colin nice you can't even see what he's doing with Anarchy form Miss Judy please too deeply penetrated it's a bit late for that I'm a small pickup a cutscene there only when required at least Samael looks appropriately badass sitting on his throne like he don't GAF i wish i could see what he was buying long enough to try and dissect why he needed it nice when you were designing kind of come up and trying to balance it all you just gotta go right upper button that's yeah we really wanted to make the combat shine here so i think so this is where we kind of really started to jam on it Morin I think also I put the titles because you know 4/4 time they're the titles had like of the boss with the title afterwards common Lord of hell yeah the horse bosses in Darksiders games were always the toughest it's a big challenge trying to craft a scenario where the player really needs to be on the horse and some in some cases that's what it boils down to is you just create you put them in a position where it is 100% not optional it's got to be cool there were definitely some iterations of this fight that were on the the more brutally difficult side to start another one of our more memorable music tracks - oh yeah I'm getting this rounder tome this with the Halloween music so I think yeah it's weird I find myself I'm legitimately watching the fight most of the time now I forget to comment because I'm just kind of watching him him play the game cuz he can't cheat well going up her bungholes a little Chiti there's a there's an issue here too where static shot is able to slow down bosses in this case numbers it just her it is all of them I think actually but we had a subsequent Ashley went out where that was fixed as well that's it curious that he's taking the time to chew them down with his anarchy form versus focusing on her they're required you have to make sure that they're dead proportions right that's right progress beefy yeah and actually if you are underpowered so this is a reflection of his choice not to put anything in the the core tree cuz he's lacking a lot of attack power he dies have if he had bought cores collected cores and and put it in there so it takes a long time to take down their health bars her stoom listen how long did this one take to design start then I would say you know probably sit from the start to where we were happy with it we actively maybe a few weeks a month maybe a lot other things that were being spin around there was some back-and-forth just because a start he does things that this the other bosses can't and won't do Perry I is just a lot different too she was such a one-off because of the horse that's what always what makes them hard kept going back to the stygian fight on Darksiders one it was it was Connecticut Lake for that reason oh yeah a single person caught that the all the demon is all the bosses are from Paradise Lost which is one of the books that I researched when we were originally working our solar stuff they're like kind of Satan's generals and all those you good point we went on reddit somebody somebody's figured it out I didn't just make up are you Moloch is Belial one of them coincidentally he's here it yeah I got of all the bosses only mamaan / Mammon word was the name that the team kind of a split on he was ultimately referred to as my man and mammary mama and he knocked him back with the transform a juggle in it every time he's awesome oh my god I'm so tempted to rewind it just to watch that ragdoll again that was unbelievable apparently this run is by my butcher the name it's w sh assange WS CHCs ng e total organ awesome use what sure did so bad yeah if anything it's like a small amount of payback for how how much they're destroying the game right now i'm surprised that you up there is visible at all he went straight to the boss here this is gonna be the shortest level yeah officially this is a huge level you have to do so much running around to kill the other shamans to access this area Wow look at he's not even on screen you don't even get to see the thing he is trivializing by cheating there's the staff though you did get to do that I'm really curious how a guns gonna go yeah you got all the gun again the boss fights this is like a run a boss fights you can't really cheese it well okay you can cheese them but you do still have to fight them you can't skip them very athletic way of entering though oh oh here we go I hit a different respawn region I'm back our fault for not having a max range on Strife's attacks did you really need to be able to shoot that far that's where we just need like the huge serpent to come out Leviathan just just to bail us out which of the bosses would you say was the most technically difficult to put together Wilson I would say a starti I think just just because of how how much we we wanted to do with engaging a horse combat - Wow that the boss doesn't even animating because it's so far away it's not being considered visible for gameplay oh he changed he switched phases is you have to go down there for it yeah he is yeah because he's gonna have to kill the orbs to interact with them and everyone works from far away I think Moloch probably Ted the most molokai mamaan probably had the most polish in the end cuz I think we took a lot of I took a lot of time on both them to give them a lot of texture in different ways I still think the law is probably my favorite battle just just cuz it you know it was important target element but also like it's just it's got a lot of interesting things going on yeah I agree he's one of my favorite bosses that we've done and in all three of the Darksiders that I've worked on I really like my mom especially in co-op because he does offer an almost MMO like chance to play a role tanking the ads versus focusing on the boss yeah totally there's there's kind of like a risk reward you have to get judged Herman if you want to take care of the artifacts RM on first meanwhile it is no longer even notable to us that this this was that was sensitized this is an enormous level it's a lot like the most traditional Darksiders level - in my opinion like just because it's sprawling and it feels like you know there is a part one oh yeah I can see that yeah this area was very very inspired by the Ashland's of Darksiders one just take our word for article money run around it as he flew by it's like flyover country that's what this level was it's flyover country because the areas are really wide and you know like their scale he took the time to blow to shoot that one exploding barrel just it seemed like for fun like a shooting gallery that's the time really well I mean you know what what do you see red barrel you can shoot it gets ads I'm time for that doing five phases yeah gotta hop down we got hypnosis yeah that was really tough to even get to the point we did in an isometric game cuz we were so hesitant to keep it really flat and horizontal we wanted verticality and that may creatures had to be up there too so finding a way to reconcile that with a twin-stick shooter I'm not sure I think we got it to a pretty good point but it was it was pretty tough you know being able to make stripe aim up and what that means when you're kind of moving in a 2d plane with the right stick that was tough I think there were some adjustments really near the end where I think it was me just generous enough that it worked out in most cases take stealth behind an exploding barrel move I think each one does maybe maybe each one of those is doing 50% of the health that was math checks out it's as if the level never happened this has got to be one of the easiest ones this so I'm looking at the time Delta it's about three minutes he's gonna spend here in war machine it's got to all be the fight which means he's gonna go right down to the phylactery did we end up calling it the phylactery Joe did we change the name or is it a phylactery oh it's the phylactery forever high height that's why I said it it's already going through a lot there we go here we go here we go look at the whole level it's like a bird's eye view I was beautiful yeah we could patch that together and get like a panoramic shot I'm surprised his framerate survived the way it did as he flew past all that definitely a gussied up rig oh toasters involved here pretty sure it's PC though okay I wanna start a channel and do slogans who's with me the out slow mail snail run that's what I'm doing how do you verify though that you are moving slow yet also making progress I feel like that would have to be the the prerequisite for doing a a slow run I mean yeah the skill it's always a slow rise look how badly I can play this game that's a slow run here we go we're getting close to the end boys in the time it used to take us internally to do a single run-through of a level to review it as a group to provide feedback we're gonna set our game of Darksiders Genesis this would be level 100 I didn't know all that was out there I've never even seen that out there before whole mountain range oh no you know last boss can't jump over a fence lined up during the video and every time they're bad we just like aim them it's my EverQuest only in word it's been a period just flat arenas oh no wedges or to run hey miss resort this was our guy we said to were like hey you know what let's have a fight with no ads it's mono mono just you and him toe-to-toe whoopin some ass and for it he can't get past some wood spikes timely commentary Billy it is that in the first cutscene of the game when you reach semi Oh consider the wall Moloch has to come over to reach semi el it's like a 150 foot tall wall and here he is trapped by a fence shorter even better as the fight is set up so that the crystals can't spot outside of the arena remember high ground matters I ground don't you don't do it Moloch that's the huge take over this whole one was right obi-wan was right why do so now it's all fun how did why did that respond him back in the I guess we must set that in script yeah they hit the dialogue triggers for and for certain responds oh here we go I'm kind of digging though like eight boxing that we could save that for re/max and 42 and a half minutes yeah when is the speed bring considered over he could have at least watched it's over man just watch the cutscenes no all right well I've got a partner in the crime we just saw our game brought to it how many people are we're actually replacing half large empty I was doing right now that was just back in the beginning well that was yep thank you very much everyone who's loved this game and two people for caring enough to break it this badly it was it was impressively thorough

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Id: 1Fqg-IdrSdc

Length: 47min 0sec (2820 seconds)

Published: Sat May 23 2020