DARK ELVES Legendary Lord Power Comparison

and today we're doing another legendary lord power comparison video where we take all the legendary lords from a particular race and compare them to one another and give them a rating out of 10 based on their strengths and and weaknesses based on three particular criteria how good their battle power is as in how much damage they can do in battle whether that be in melee or in magic their commanding power as in how much they're able to boost their soldiers in battle and faction power as in how much they're able to provide globally to their faction passively on the campaign map so last one we did was the green skin uh legendary lord comparison and i used a pretty high threshold for their criteria where 5 out of 10 was the benchmark if they provided nothing and based on feedback from that video i've decided to adjust that criteria a little bit so that we get a little bit more of an accurate feed on basically the difference between a top legendary lord and a bottom one so now if a legendary lord provides nothing in that particular category they'll now be given a three out of ten what this will do is give a a much greater reading difference between a top legendary and like a bottom one so if we were to compare that retroactively to the green skin one we'd probably see grim gore iron height get a five out of ten instead of seven whereas we'd still see wowza get a nine out of ten okay with that being said now let's jump in to the number five spot for the dark elves and we're just gonna do this in ascending order so five four three two one and work our way through there so coming in at number five is malus dark blade and i don't think this entry is going to surprise many people because male stark blade is pretty well known for not being a very good dark elf legendary lord but where he is quite strong is his battle power which i'm going to give him a 10 out of 10 in regard to that because he is arguably one of the best melee fighters in the game largely thanks to being able to summon zarkan so looking at his skill tree at all things that makes him particularly strong we firstly have to look at the warp sword of cane if you manage to get access to this being able to restore eight hit points per second and five percent damage resistance while in melee that is a significant amount of regeneration especially considering that malus darkblade has essentially two pools of health because once you get low on health with malice you can summon sarcan which you can do sometimes when playing as hagrief but any time when playing as any other faction that's just confederated him so malus darkblade is actually more valuable confederated into somebody else's faction than he is in his own faction because his own sort of abilities actually hinder had grief a little bit but anyway the warp sort of cane really good uh really good weapon now spite his mount is actually terrible it actually weakens him because it makes him a bigger entity meaning it's easier for other people to shoot him it does make him a little bit faster but it doesn't make him particularly fast this makes it a lot worth it and it makes it so that melee units more of them can hit him at any given time and it doesn't actually increase his melee attack in melee defense so spite actually makes mala's dark blade weaker in combat and doesn't provide enough bonuses to make up for that so i would advise people not uh putting him on spite and then there's of course sarcan himself when he does summon sarcan sakan has a number of abilities that he can keep summoning as long as he's alive and the great thing about summoning zarkan is that if you do it and regardless of whether you win or lose as long as your army doesn't get wiped out if you summon zarkan malu's dark blade will not be wounded at the end of that battle he'll only have like one hit point left but he won't be wounded so it's kind of okay uh to do it even if he's gonna get wounded it's just that if he does get wounded you take a morale hit for the entire battle so it's a bit tricky with that kind of stuff so he's going to get a 10 out of 10 in terms of battle power because he is extremely strong can't deny that now in terms of commanding ability he's going to get a 4 out of 10. so 3 out of 10 being the baseline now he provides a very small amount of bonus for his army now the units that he boosts are cold one nights cold one dreadnights and cold one chariot units now this doesn't include scourge runner chariots which are actually a really good unit but the units that i just mentioned there they're actually some of the worst units in the dark elf roster they're slow they have low entity numbers compared to other cavalry units and they're just not great fighters and they're generally speaking overpriced get them in the late campaign there's just better units to use it'll do more damage that have greater effect that are easier to use some people might like them and it's totally fine to get them but on legendary difficulty i highly advise avoiding recruiting these units and so with him boosting these units and basically these units alone that doesn't really provide any points however he does have a skill over here that will reduce the upkeep cost of all of the units in his army regardless of what they are by 10 and whilst the dark elves are so rich that that probably wouldn't matter that much 10 still better than nothing and so he's gonna get basically one point for that so four out of ten for commanding ability in terms of faction ability mel's darkblade is going to get a solid three out of ten because he provides nothing there is nothing he does faction wide that provides any bonus to any darker faction regardless of whether he's in his own faction or confederated into somebody else he doesn't do anything so overall malus darkblade is going to get a 5.6 out of 10 making him one of the worst legendary lords in the game he's a good melee fighter but that's about it it's not really good enough and that's why he's getting the number five spot coming in at number four is crone hellebron i kind of expected cronella to to score a little bit higher than she did but upon evaluating a lot of her abilities i realized a lot of them actually have no value but she still is quite quite good it's just in different ways than i expected so she's getting the number four spot and let's firstly evaluate her battle power so she's going to get a 9 out of 10 in that regard because obviously she's not as good of a killer as malice darkblade but she does have some really good abilities especially the death sword and cursed blade basically this turns her into kind of like a mortise engine where she goes into melee she doesn't even need to inflict any damage but just goes into melee and causes damage to combatants in a 30 meter radius and then she's able to pull out of combat for 10 seconds and go back into it and then apply it again or apply the same ability constantly to like a bunch of different units in like a line depending on how you want to use it so this ability here gives her the potential to inflict hundreds of casualties upon enemy infantry units so it's very useful she's a really good infantry killer despite the fact she doesn't really have any magic she does also have two reasonably good sort of mid-tier mounts the cauldron of blood and manticore you could go either way personally i prefer her to be on the manticore because that will complement the death sword and cursed blade a lot more because you'll be able to push her through combatants a lot easier because it's a faster mount allowing you to apply the cursed blade to more units at a time if you wanted to do that she also does have regeneration which is of course very valuable and she's just overall a very good fighter but she's not a dualist so probably avoid fighting um other lords that have higher stats than her which there are a reasonable number of them but overall nine out of ten's a pretty solid score now in terms of her commanding power she's going to get a six out of ten she does have a pretty significant upkeep production for which elves sisters of slaughter and hargenet executioners now these are not the best units in the dark elf roster but they are sort of pretty good sisters of slaughter are probably the best among them and she's able to boost their stats by quite a bit as well with bonus versus infantry and extra melee defense so those units in her army can be quite valuable but those are not the best units in that the dark elf has to offer so she's not going to get full score for that she does also have this pretty good ability here gaze of kane which basically makes all of the units in that 30 meter radius berserk uh giving them extra melee attack and leadership so it really does complement the sort of units that you would see in her army so 6 out of 10 pretty solid score not super high now in terms of faction power she's only going to get a 4 out of 10 because she really doesn't provide that much at all she provides more than malice darkblade but this is it she just provides two loyalty to new recruits that's about it she does have some local bonuses but i don't really value local bonuses anywhere near as high as as faction-wide bonuses so the if we have a look here the loyalty to plus two to new recruits that's basically all she does so she's only going to get a 4 out of 10 for that so her overall score is going to be 6.3 out of 10. so only a little bit higher than malice darkblade coming in at number three is lockheer fellheart now before doing this evaluation i kind of expected lock here to get the number four spot but upon looking at his skill tree i realize there's actually quite a lot of value in loki so firstly evaluating his battle skill he's going to get a 9 out of 10 now it's a different 9 out of ten than what hillebronn got because they're two different melee combatants both of them are of course melee lords but lockheed is a dualist so he's better at taking out enemy lords and heroes whereas he lebron is better at inflicting mass casualties onto enemy infantry so hellebron will end up getting more kills usually but those kills would be lower value than lockheer whereas lockheer isn't really quite so good at dealing with mass infantry so looking at all the things that make him strong he's got the helm of the kraken which provides him with a bit of regen but only while he in melee he's got a dragon mount which is of course a lot better than a manticore or a a cauldron of blood mount and he's got a lot of abilities in here that'll allow him to just basically be a better melee fighter so lokia fell heart would probably beat helebron in a duel but would not out kill her in a straight up uh battle so that's why he's getting a nine out of ten and in terms of malus dark blade he'd probably beat them both at the same time so in terms of command ability lock here is going to get a five out of ten he doesn't provide much bonuses he basically just boosts black art corsairs now black corsairs are great and they'll do well up until about the mid game until about turn 60 but at that point even with reduced upkeep cost and increased leadership and um and melee attack you're probably going to want to phase out these units because they just don't fare well in the late game they're just two early game units but in the early game they're pretty good but i can't really give him too many points just for that so he's going to get a 5 out of 10 for that he does also reduce upkeep cost by 5 for all units in his army so he'll get a little bit of extra bonus for that as well now in terms of faction power this is where lokia fell heart really does give a lot of a boost to the faction much more than i originally thought so just listing all the things that he provides he provides plus four lord recruit ranks plus one loyalty to new recruits plus five growth for black arks and plus five percent income from ports giving him an eight out of 10 when it comes down to faction power so it is actually quite valuable to confederate um you know as any other dark girl faction so just looking at that there's there's lord recruit rank loyalty over here blackout growth income from ports and lord recruit rank over there so all of that's quite valuable so overall lockheed fellhardt is going to get a 7.3 out of 10 making him pretty valuable but falling very short of the number one and number two slots coming in at number two is marathi so i think marathi might actually be one of the most underrated lords in the game and i think that's largely due to her start position being quite difficult but just because it's difficult doesn't mean she's not good she's extremely valuable and i'll go into detail while that is so in terms of her battle power i'm going to give her 10 out of 10. now most wizards in this game are going to get essentially a 10 out of 10 because magic is just super valuable just about every single law of magic in this game can be utilized to inflict massive damage on an enemy army and therefore be highly valuable there is a couple of exceptions though for example malaga might not get a 10 out of 10 because he does have one of the worst laws of magic he's not a good melee combatant and he doesn't have a mount so he might not get a 10 out of 10 for that but i'm not evaluating him today i just want to put a baseline down to why all these spellcasters get such a high score because spell casting is so valuable now upon that note um looking at marathi skill tree one of the things that's both good and bad about her is that she's just got so many skills she's got her unique skills she's got a unique magic tree she's got three laws of magic to draw and she's got tons of abilities and equipment basically the biggest problem with marathi is just there's so much there it's impossible to get everything that's good within the 39 skill points that you'll get to assign her so she'll never actually reach her full potential which isn't a bad thing but it also is a little bit annoying so that might be where some people might rate her a little bit lower but regardless of pretty much which way you level her up as long as you don't put it all into the blue line she will be extremely powerful so the three laws of magic that she gets access to is death shadow and dark magic the only really notable spells are pit of shades and soul stealer i wouldn't really bother using these spells very much at all but these are two of the best spells in the game uh one from the law of shadows one from the law of death and marathi's equipment is able to reduce the cooldown time and the cost on a lot of these spells along with providing her with bounce spells and extra wins and magic reserves there's so much in here that if i was to go through it all i think it'll just take too long so i really just want to basically say she got a lot of stuff in here and then just move on you know don't go through everything trust me there's a lot there anyway the next thing that i want to evaluate her is on her commanding power which again she's going to get a 10 out of 10 because she is a really good commander now in terms of her trait that's not particularly useful but her skill here which i would recommend going down the insidious line instead of the tenacious line because it is mutually exclusive if you go down to favorite assets you can get a extra 10 melee attack and melee defense for shades and uh dark riders doomfire warlocks and skirt runner chariots but i'm specifically looking at shades because shades are probably the best unit the dark elves have so the fact that she's the only legendary lord that boosts shades apart from you know the the generic tree which i'm not going to evaluate that on because everyone's got that the fact that she boosts those units that's extremely highly valuable and another thing that's going to value her as a commander is the ability to debuff the enemy units by so much just by being close to them the heart render and dark sword reduces the enemy melee attack in melee defense by nine just for being close to her and she's got enchanting beauty which will also reduce it by an additional nine so adding that up minus 18 melee attack without even having to cast a spell without even having to debuff them just by being close to them is a is a huge bonus to her commanding ability it makes all of her units that much more effective well i guess i should say makes the enemy units so much less effective oh by the way she's also got regeneration so that's on top of the the commanding ability stuff um so basically every single dark elf legendary lord is able to regenerate in some way or form um and she's also got sulfate which is a really good really good mount for a spell castle because when spellcasters want fast mounts so there's another thing back on her battle ability marathi has a very very meaty skill tree there's a lot in here so yes in terms of her commanding ability she's going to get a 10 out of 10 because there is there's a lot that she can boost her units so i highly advise giving her a shade doom stack because she can boost it by so much it's not like shades are supposed to go into melee but they are decent melee combatants and when they run out of ammo they may need to and sometimes you're not gonna get a choice sometimes the cavalry's just gonna get at you and having extra melee defense is gonna help anyway in terms of faction buffs she gets an eight out of ten so she was pretty close to 10 out of 10 but not quite there she gives a small boost of winds of magic faction wide uh plus eight which is still better than knowledgeable but you can still get plenty of knowledgeable lords throughout the um uh heroes throughout the campaign so it's not that big of a deal um and she provides plus two ranks for assassins and plus five extra campaign movement range for all characters so that's in insidious at endless scheming there so there's the plus two ranks for k9 assassins there's also hero success chance plus five percent all characters really good uh if you're doing some assassinations and the plus five campaign range uh campaign movement range faction wide that is you know that's valuable you know if you're ever playing whack-a-mole or someone being able to catch up to them where otherwise you wouldn't have it's better than nothing um but yeah it's not as many bonuses to say the number one guy is going to get which we all knew who was going to become at number one but overall marathi is going to get a 9.3 out of 10 making her actually one of the best legendary lords in the game and one of the most confusing legendary lords to evaluate because her skill tree is just so damn big but anyway that's the end of this one let's move on now to number one taking the number one spot goes to darth mummy's boy himself the witch king malekith so malekith is this is a bit of interesting scenario here because he's actually sharing the number one spot with marathi because marathi and malachith are both taking the number one and number two spot because they are tied in terms of score malikith is going to get a 9.3 out of 10. now previously in live streams i've mentioned that malachite is probably a 10 out of 10 but now that i've gone through a detailed analysis i can't justify giving him a 10 out of 10. he's going to get 9.3 which is the same as marathi but he's getting different scores in different areas and that's what we're going to go through now so in terms of battle ability of course malachite is going to get a 10 out of 10. he's a spellcaster lord he gets a dragon he's very good in melee of course he's going to get 10 out of 10. he's not quite as good of a spellcaster as marathi and he only really has the law of dark he's not an amazing spell caster with that stuff but when you take into the fact he is an amazing melee fighter he does have uh serif on which his dragon um he'll beat the crap out of any other spellcaster lord in the game no problem in addition to just generally speaking beating the crap out of most other even non-spell caster lords in the game so yeah 10 out of 10 for him in regard to battle ability now where he falls a little bit short is with his commanding ability i looked pretty hard to find anything that can give him the 10 out of 10 score here but i can't give it to him i can only give him 8 out of 10. most of his skills here provide faction-wide abilities or abilities to his combat they don't provide bonuses to his army the only thing that provides bonuses to his army is this here reduced upkeep for black guard of nagaron dread spears bleak swords and dark shards by 50 now that is really good and that's where he's going to get the 8 out of 10 but these are not the best units in the dark elf roster these are late game units with the black guard of nagaron but units that i would never spam and early game units so he's really really good in the early game but late game when you're phasing some of those units out and going for shades that bonus will be lost because while reducing upkeep cost is really good the dark elves kind of don't really have an issue with money so reducing upkeep cost kind of becomes irrelevant when you've got 15 army sort of thing um so that bonus sort of becomes pretty outdated really quickly um in the late campaign so that's why he's only getting eight out of ten can't justify giving him a 10 out of 10 especially when comparing it to marathi and there's nothing he really does to boost his army at all it doesn't have any special abilities or anything to debuff the enemy apart from you know um just his regular sort of magic anyway where malachus really shines is his faction power he's able to he's of course going to get a 10 out of 10. what he does if you go through the tyrant line which is what i would highly recommend you could go down either one but i would personally recommend tyrant public order plus one all provinces very useful tax rate plus five percent and this is this one here is what you really really want to get this is his best ability and is essential for dark elf economy income from slaves 20 slave decline rate minus 10 that's the probably the best one for him you are able now with the addition of masters to reduce the slave decline rate to a hundred percent in the regions that you want to put slaves in meaning that you can keep that income super high for the entirety of the campaign as long as you're not constantly making access of dark conduit because that'll really use up your slaves and also the slave public order penalty decline minus 15 i'd say that if you're playing on legendary difficulty that is essential and even though war leader reduces upkeep costs by 10 for all armies i would say that that ability there would save you less money than that what this here would make you so this would make up for the 10 percent extra upkeep penalty of course it logs it depends on how you play if your economy is trash and you're going with an overbloated military well then that would be better but i would always advise you know taking care of your economy there's no reason not to do that and then these abilities over here well they wouldn't be added onto his faction ability because it doesn't provide faction wide buffs these are just re this is probably one of the best local province abilities in the game allowing him to get a really good start in the early campaign as long as you do it correctly you know growth 25 tax rate plus 30 percent construction cost and construction time reductions will allow malachith with any province that he's in to develop very quickly but he's not getting scored on that it's really these two abilities here that's going to provide all of him with his 10 out of 10 faction ability so overall malucos is going to get a 9.3 out of 10. now even though malekith has the same score as marathi i'm still going to just say yeah he is kind of number one because i value faction power more than command power and i value commanding power more than battle power sometimes so it depends on what way you want to value it but that's what i would essentially they're both the same but in different ways you know anyway that's the legendary lord skill comparisons and power comparison let me know what you think this one was a little bit more difficult to compare than i expected just because i did not expect um malachith and marathi to get the same score i actually looked pretty damn hard to find anything i could find just so they could get a slightly different score i don't care if marathi ended up being the best dark girl legendary lord but in evaluating them i have to admit they are both valued the same at 9.3 anyway that's the legendary lord skill comparison let me know what you thought and also let me know which one you want me to do next in the comments below and i appreciate you and i'll see you next time [ __ ] don't 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Channel: LegendofTotalWar

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Keywords: total war, warhammer 2, top 5, Legendary Lord

Id: ej3RbDSA1c8

Length: 23min 31sec (1411 seconds)

Published: Fri Jul 24 2020

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[u/captaincarot]

I really like these. He goes so fast in stream it's hard to see what he does but I learn what to look for a lot here.

Skaven or dwarves next, outside the box would love a top 5 economy cheeses (that aren't tree man bugs), he knows where to put certain hero's with certain traits) and I'm slowly figuring it out but would love thst in depth explanation.