>>> MORE NORTHERN LIGHTS ON THE WAY. WE HEAR FROM A SOLAR PHYSICIST ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE FUN THAT COULD CREATE SOME ACTION HERE ON EARTH. >>> BUT FIRST, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS DEFIANT. HE SAYS THAT HE WILL APPEAL THE GUILTY VERDICT IN HIS NEW YORK CRIMINAL CASE. THE JURY WAS UNANIMOUS IN FINDING THE PRESUMPTIVE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE GUILTY ON ALL 34 FELONY COUNTS OF FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN MANHATTAN FRIDAY. TRUMP CALLED THE LEGAL SYSTEM A SCAM. >> IF THEY CAN DO THIS TO ME, THEY CAN DO THIS TO ANYONE. THESE ARE BAD PEOPLE. THESE ARE IN MANY CASES I BELIEVE SICK PEOPLE. >> THE CURRENT OVAL OFFICE HOLDER IS ALSO REACTING TO THE CASE. HERE IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID DURING AN ADDRESS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. >> NOT ONLY SHOULD HE BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY THAT HE SHOULD TO APPEAL THE DECISION JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY. THAT IS HOW THE AMERICAN SYSTEM OF JUSTICE WORKS. IT'S RECKLESS, IT'S DANGEROUS, AND IT IRRESPONSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO SAY THIS WAS RIGGED, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE VERDICT. >> AND WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE IN JUST A MOMENT, INCLUDING PRESIDENT BIDEN'S NEW PUSH FOR A CEASE- FIRE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS, BUT FIRST LET US DISCUSS THE FORMER PRESIDENT CONVICTION. WE HAVE BEEN SOLICITING YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS OF THIS VERDICT, AND TO ANSWER THEM WE HAVE CATRINA KAUFMAN AND JESSICA LEVINSON. JESSICA IS A CBS NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND A PROFESSOR AT LOYOLA LAW SCHOOL. CATRINA I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU. THE QUESTION WE HAVE ARE THE MOST IS WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT TRUMP ACTUALLY SPENDS TIME IN PRISON? >> Reporter: I WOULD SAY IT'S UNLIKELY BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE. EACH OF THESE COUNTS CARRIES UP TO FOUR YEARS IN PRISON SO IT IS ABSOLUTELY ON THE TABLE. THEY DID AN ANALYSIS OF COMPARABLE CASES, AND HAD 10% OF THE TIME THE DEFENDANTS WERE SENTENCED TO PRISON. 90% WEREN'T, BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY. >> JESSICA, WHAT ARGUMENTS DO YOU EXPECT TRUMP'S LEGAL TEAM IS GOING TO RAISE DURING HIS SENTENCING? 4 THEY WAS A FIRST-TIME OFFENDER, NONVIOLENT FELONIES, AND I THINK HE WILL POINT TO THOSE STATISTICS THAT KATRINA JUST BROUGHT UP. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME SOMEBODY IS NOT SENTENCED TO PRISON , AND DO YOU, JUDGE, WANT TO GO OUTSIDE OF WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS WHEN WE ARE SHOWING THAT WE ARE TREATING THIS CONVICTED CRIMINAL DEFENDANT JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE. >> KATRINA, HE'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEFENDANT , BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. HOW DOES A FELONY CONVICTION AFFECT THAT? >> Reporter: AMAZINGLY HE DOES NOT. HE HAS NO BARRIER RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT EVEN THOUGH HE IS A CONVICTED FELON. IN FACT IT HAPPENED BEFORE IN THE 1920s. EUGENE VDOT DOBBS RAN FOR THE SOCIALIST PARTY FROM BEHIND BARS IN ATLANTA. >> JESSICA I'M GOING ASKED WITH A FELONY CONVICTION ON HIS RECORD, PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW CAN TRUMP A VOTE FOR HIMSELF IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION? >> Reporter: IT DEPENDS ON THE FIRST QUESTION, WHETHER OR NOT HE IS INCARCERATED. HE IS REGISTERED TO VOTE IN FLORIDA. FLORIDA LAW WILL REFER TO THE PLACE, THE STATE NEW YORK WHERE HE WAS CONVICTED. IF HE'S NOT INCARCERATED AT THE TIME HE NEEDS TO VOTE IN NEW YORK, THEN HE HAS REACHED ABOUT. SO, IT DEPENDS BASED ON THE SENTENCING. >> INTERESTING. ALL RIGHT. KATRINA, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. THE VERDICT MIGHT HAVE MAJOR IMPLICATIONS FOR HIS ABILITY TO ACTUALLY BE OUT THERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE CAMPAIGN CALENDAR, AND HOW IS TRUMP ALSO EVEN FUNDRAISING ON THIS, TRYING TO USE THIS TO HIS ADVANTAGE? >> Reporter: HE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN FUNDRAISING ON THIS. HE BEGAN MESSAGING THAT HE IS NOW A POLITICAL PRISONER. THE CAMPAIGN SAYS THEY HAVE MADE ALMOST $35 MILLION JUST SINCE THIS VERDICT CAME DOWN. IN TERMS OF THE CALENDAR, THERE IS GOING TO BE A SENTENCING THAT IS ON JULY 11, WHICH IS VERY NOTABLY JUST 4 DAYS BEFORE THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION, SO TRUMP COULD BE SENTENCED, WE DON'T KNOW, MAYBE TO PRISON, RIGHT BEFORE HE BECOMES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S OFFICIAL NOMINEE FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. IT IS ALSO JUST SHORTLY AFTER THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AS WELL, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A VERY MOMENTOUS DECISION COMING UP BEFORE THAT. WE ARE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM THE SUPREME COURT REGARDING HIS CLAIM TO PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY. WE EXPECT IN LATE JUNE. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AS HE IS MAKING HIS RUN FOR PRESIDENT. >> I WANT TO GET INTO PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY IN THE SUPREME COURT IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS CALENDARING QUESTION, IF HE HAS NOT SENTENCED TO ACTUAL TIME BEHIND BARS, ANOTHER SENTENCE THAT THE JUDGE MAY BE CONSIDERING IS HOME CONFINEMENT. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IS MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHER DEFENDANTS WHO FACED 34 FELONY COUNTS OF FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS MIGHT FACE. WITH THAT MEAN THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE JUDGE FOR PERMISSION ANYTIME HE WANTED TO TRAVEL TO ACCEPT NOMINEES OR DEBATE INVITATIONS? >> Reporter: HOUSE ARREST AS AN OPTION. THERE IS ALSO PROBATION. I THINK REALISTICALLY THEY HAVE SAID THEY ARE GOING TO APPEAL AND HE WILL ABSOLUTELY ASK FOR A DAY, SO A DEFERRED SENTENCE SO THAT HE NOT BE PUT ON HOUSE ARREST OR PUT IN PRISON OR WHATEVER THE JUDGE HAS DECIDED WHILE THE APPEAL IS PENDING. I THINK IT IS VERY LIKELY THE JUDGE WOULD GRANT THAT, BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY HE COULD BE GIVEN THAT INTENSE AND THEN YES, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF STRICTURES ON HIM. >> Reporter: JESSICA, IF THEY ARE APPEALING, WHICH WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE, WHAT DOES THE LEGAL TEAM NEED TO PROVE IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT, TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR APPEAL, AND WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD, AS KATRINA BROUGHT UP, THAT PART OF THE APPEAL WILL BE THAT HE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, HE NEEDS TO HAVE THE FULL ABILITY TO TRAVEL? >> Reporter: WELL, THAT DEPENDS ON THE SENTENCE, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE SENTENCE WOULD LIMIT HIS ABILITY TO TRAVEL. NOW, EVERY CRIMINAL DEFENDANT IS GOING TO APPEAL, SO THE FACT HE SAYS WE ARE GOING TO APPEAL IMMEDIATELY, LET'S NOT TAKE ANYTHING FROM THAT. THERE ARE I BELIEVE LIVE ISSUES TO APPEAL IN THIS CASE. WHAT HE WOULD NEED IS SOMETHING THAT IS BAD ENOUGH THAT IT IS WORTH OVERTURNING THE VERDICT, AND THAT IS A HIGH STANDARD, BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM LIKES FINALITY. THEY DON'T LIKE TO GO BACK AND SECOND-GUESS WHAT A JURY HAS THAT UNLESS THERE IS A REALLY GOOD REASON. SO YOU WOULD NEED SOME LEGAL REASON THAT AMOUNTS TO CLEAR ERROR. WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, I THINK THE BEST POTENTIAL HOPE IS TO SAY THE WAY THIS WAS CHARGED, ALONG WITH THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS, IS PROBLEMATIC FOR 2 REASONS. WHEN YOU HAVE A FEDERAL CANDIDATE BUT YOU ARE POINTING TO A NEW YORK ELECTION CODE. THE OTHER IS THAT YOU HAVE A STATE PROSECUTION, BUT FOR PART OF THIS CHARGE YOU ARE POINTING TO A FEDERAL ELECTION VIOLATION AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR UNLAWFUL CONDUCT. I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE MOST ACTION ON APPEAL. >> YOU BROUGHT UP THE SUPREME COURT. WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR HOW THEY ROLL IN PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY. WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS AND THE TIMELINE ON THAT? >> Reporter: IT HAS MAJOR IMPLICATIONS, BECAUSE IF THEY ROLL AGAINST HIM, THAT MEANS THAT THE DC ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS JACK SMITH'S PROSECUTION OF HIS ACTIONS RELATED TO JANUARY 6. IF THEY ROLL IN HIS FAVOR, THAT COULD HAVE MAJOR IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY. AND THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD LEAD TO IT BEING BACKED INTO A CORNER, WHICH WOULD LEAD TO MORE ADDITIONAL HEARINGS, BUT THAT WILL BE VERY DETERMINATIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE DC ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE AND WHETHER WE SEE ANYMORE TRIALS HAPPEN BEFORE THE ELECTION. >> WE ARE OUT OF TIME, BUT 70 PEOPLE HAVE ALSO ASKED US THIS QUESTION. CAN HE PARDON HIMSELF IF IN FACT HE BECOMES PRESIDENT AGAIN? >> Reporter: NO, GREAT QUESTION. ONLY THE GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK CAN PARDON FOR A STATE CRIME, AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS. CONVICTION FOR A STATE CRIME. >> THANK YOU BOTH. >>> CBS NEWS A SENIOR WHITE HOUSE AND POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT ED O'KEEFE NOW TO DISCUSS THE PRESIDENT'S REMARKS, BOTH ON TRUMP AND THE MIDDLE EAST. LET'S START WITH THE FIRST CONVERSATION. PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS REALLY BEEN VERY CAREFUL IN THE PAST ABOUT ADDRESSING ANY OF THOSE LEGAL TROUBLES THAT HIS COMPETITOR IS FACING. WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT HIS REMARKS ABOUT THE VERDICT? >> Reporter: WHAT WAS PERHAPS MOST INTERESTING IS THAT HE IN ESSENCE DEFENDED, OR TRIED TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS AND NORMS BY SAYING LOOK, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY HAS EXISTED FOR 250 YEARS OR SO. VARIOUS VERDICTS AND WHAT I NEED TO BE RESPECTED. IF YOU ARE SOMEBODY WHO DISAGREES WITH IT, TOO BAD. THAT IS THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS. A JURY WAS PICKED. HE HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL, WHICH IS ALSO NOTABLE THAT THE SITTING PRESIDENT POINTED THAT OUT THAT TRUMP HAS AN OPTION, BUT OTHERWISE ALLOW THE VERDICT TO REST, AND DON'T, YOU KNOW, USE NEFARIOUS MEANS TO RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. BEYOND THAT, HE REFUSED TO ANSWER AT LEAST ONE SHATTERED QUESTION OVER THE FORMER PRESIDENTS UNFOUNDED ALLEGATION THAT HE IS THE SITTING PRESIDENT'S POLITICAL PRISONER, BUT THE WAY THIS CURRENT PRESIDENT REACTED TO THAT WITH A SORT OF BIG CHESHIRE CAT GRIN IS ALREADY BEING USED BY HIS OPPONENTS ONLINE AND IN ADVERTISING TO SAY THAT MAYBE THERE ARE NEFARIOUS REASONS FOR WHY THESE TRIALS ARE UNDERWAY. IN ESSENCE, BIDEN STOPED THE FALSE, UNFOUNDED ACCUSATION THAT ALL OF THIS IS PART OF SOME VAST CONSPIRACY TO TAKE DOWN TRUMP. >> LET'S TURN TO THE OTHER SUBJECT THAT IS PART OF THOSE REMARKS, THE MIDDLE EAST. PRESIDENT BIDEN SAYS ISRAEL HAS OFFERED A ROADMAP TO TRY TO BRING ABOUT A CEASE-FIRE IN GAZA. I WANT TO PLAY FOR VIEWERS SOME OF WHAT HE SAID. >> IT IS TIME TO BEGIN THIS NEW STAGE. THE HOSTAGES COME HOME, FOR ISRAEL TO BE SECURE, FOR THE SUFFERING TO TOP. IT IS TIME FOR THIS WAR TO END. FOR THE DAY AFTER TO BEGIN. >> WHAT ARE THE KEY ASPECTS OF THE PROPOSAL, AND WHY IS IT HAPPENING NOW? >> Reporter: THAT IS WHAT I WAS PULLING UP ON MY PHONE EARLIER. IT IS A THREE-PHASE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED FROM ISRAELI OFFICIALS TO HAMAS LEADERSHIP BY QATAR WHO HAS BEEN SERVING AS AN INTERMEDIARY THROUGHOUT ALL THIS. IT ESSENTIALLY CALLS FOR THE FOLLOWING. A SIX-WEEK CEASE-FIRE, NEW DIRECT TALKS ABOUT A PERMANENT CEASE-FIRE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS, THE WITHDRAWAL OF ISRAELI MILITARY FORCES FROM GAZA POPULATION CENTERS, THE RELEASE OF ELDERLY AND FEMALE HOSTAGES BY HAMAS IN EXCHANGE FOR HUNDREDS OF PALESTINIANS IN ISRAELI CUSTODY, AND PERHAPS MOST CRITICALLY, MOST URGENTLY, PASSAGE OF AT LEAST 600 TRUCKS PER DAY WITH HUMANITARIAN AID INTO GAZA TO RELIEVE THOSE THAT ARE CONTINUING TO SUFFER AMID CONCERNS THAT FAMINE AND OTHER HUMANITARIAN DISASTERS ARE UNDERWAY IN THAT REGION. IT IS AN AMBITIOUS PLAN. NOTABLE THAT THE PRESIDENT ENDORSED IT ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON ON THE EAST COAST OF THE UNITED DATES WHICH IS FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE SHABBAT IN ISRAEL, WHEN MANY OBSERVANT ISRAELI LEADERS ARE MAYBE UNABLE TO RESPOND FOR ALMOST 28 HOURS OR SO. A SEMEN FROM THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTERS SIGNALS THAT HE AND HIS COALITION GOVERNMENT AUTHORIZED THIS CEASE-FIRE PLAN. CRITICALLY, THOUGH, IT SAYS, ONCE AGAIN, THAT ISRAEL'S OBJECTIVES ARE TO GET THE HOSTAGES BACK AND THE TOTAL ANNIHILATION OR THE END OF THE HAMAS MILITARY CAPABILITIES. WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID IN HIS REMARK IS LOOK, YOU HAVE GOTTEN HAMAS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN'T COMMIT ANOTHER OCTOBER 7 STYLE ATTACK. YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE THE WIN, IN ESSENCE WHAT HE WAS SAYING, AND WORK WITH A FAR MORE DEPLETED OR NEUTERED ORGANIZATION AND GET TWO-PIECE, AND CALL ON THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROTESTING ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES ARE IN THE STREETS OF CITIES AROUND THE WORLD, DIRECTLY OR PRESSURE, DIRECT YOUR IRE AT HAMAS LEADERSHIP AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO ACCEPT THIS DEAL IF YOU ARE REALLY SOMEBODY THAT DOES WANT A CEASE-FIRE. >> IT'S INTERESTING YOU MENTION THAT, BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT SEEMED TO BE DIRECTING THAT PART OF HIS REMARKS DIRECTLY AT ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, BUT HE DID NOT BRING THEM UP BY NAME DURING HIS SPEECH. THE SAME TIME CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE ARE INVITING THE CONTROVERSIAL PRIME MINISTER TO ADDRESS A JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS. YOU KNOW IS A WHITE HOUSE ON BOARD WITH THAT? >> Reporter: BIPARTISAN, BICAMERAL INVITATION THAT WE ANTICIPATE BEFORE THE AUGUST RECESS. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN ASKED REPEATEDLY IF IT WOULD SUPPORT SUCH AN INVITATION
