Christ in the Old Testament

welcome to the shepherds chapel network family bible study hour with pastor arnold murray wisdom is understanding god's word pastor murray's unique teaching approach brings god's word alive with meaning as he takes you on a chapter by chapter verse by verse study of god's letter to you the bible and now here is pastor arnold murray all right good day to you god bless you welcome to the shepherds chapel say welcome to this family bible study hour we're going to take a little vacation tonight we're going to visit a little bit we're going to there's been a question that i've been asked repeatedly where was christ mentioned in the old testament and beloved that really what that's really what the old testament is about is announcing through prophecy and so forth the coming yeshua messiah the anointed one the probably so very much we're going to be in isaiah quite a bit tonight and isaiah perhaps was quoted more in the new testament or at least as much as any other book of the bible of course that's natural it's one of the longest also but but be that as it may it the old testament and the new testament are only divided by the fact that what does covenant mean or which is the word testament it means a contract a will like when when you when anyone writes a will to their heirs that's a covenant in a way in other words the the will then takes the inheritance and passes it on and really that's what the word of god is about is you might say the heirs of almighty god and what he does for them and you know it's real sad there are many within that contract and covenant there are many blessings that you must claim if you are one of his children and people don't claim them so naturally they wonder well wonder why god doesn't do anything for me well you don't ask and that's primarily the reason unfortunately lack of knowledge from the word of god things will happen exactly as they're written as we have just completed the book of mark we found that the crucifixion itself was drawn out to the letter in the twenty-second psalm so the twenty-second psalm is hebrew my god my god yes thou forsaken me christ quoting that 22nd psalm which told of he being nailed to the cross the roman soldiers gambling for his clothing his arms being pulled out of socket a thousand years before it came to pass even down to where the what the high priest would be saying those words at that moment see man can't do that as i've said many times but that's christ in the old testament in the book of psalms foretelling of that first advent and of course we we repeat it at that same time zechariah chapter nine verse nine and ten nine the ninth verse in that ninth chapter of zachariah tells of the first advent and the 10th verse tells of the second so you see the testament or the covenant he made is his word and his word gives you all knowledge all wisdom comes from god if you will simply take it as common sense rather than doing as many insist on spiritualizing the whole thing away yes you live it daily christianity is not a religion it's a reality and so we're going to address the question where was christ spoken of in the old testament and we're going to ask a word of wisdom from our father in the name of yeshua jesus and we're going to start quite simply i think i'm going to stay in the book of isaiah to address this question we're going to go to chapter 7 and i'm going to read the 13th and the 14th verse i don't think you'll have any trouble identifying christ within this verse 13 and he said hear ye now o house of david this would be the house of judah through which christ would come is it a small thing for you to weary men but will you worry my god also therefore the lord himself shall give you a sign do you know what a sign is that's an event a sign is a benchmark this is something that's going to happen that will let you know god keeps his word that's what a sign is behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name emmanuel what does this word emmanuel mean in the hebrew top it means god with us for that conception that son from that virgin was the son of god and how could anyone say we're it's it's all right to ask where christ is mentioned in the bible the old testament but to say he is not is really quite a gross error and of course you would note um that um this also in matthew chapter 1 23. now let's just uh let's just you're not going to have it i'm going to turn there real quickly matthew chapter 1 verse 23 after it gives the genealogy of joseph it quotes that very verse isaiah 7 14. you can read it again in matthew chapter 1 verse 23 it reads behold a virgin shall be with child and shall bring forth a son and they shall call his name emmanuel which being interpreted is god with us when you have seen the son you have seen the father so you see within this word of god all questions are answered this is one reason i enjoy our question and answer portion so much is that that's the way we learn that's the way we expand our minds is to answer questions that might pop in our minds that could cause a person to make a mistake even in life let's turn on over if we may to the ninth chapter while we're right here in isaiah and let's begin with verse two it has just talked talked about a prophecy of zebulun and napola that if you were not familiar with the ten tribes and their migrations it would have no meaning to you so it is a different subject for a different time so we pick up in verse 2. the people that walked in darkness have seen a great light they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death upon them hath the light shine what is the land of the shadow of death do you not remember the 23rd psalm yea though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death i fear no evil for thou art with me the valley of the shadow of death is the great valley spoken of in ezekiel 37 whereby death still reigns and it happens to be this particular earth age where death it is given that every one every man should die once and so it is written but there was a light and who was the light christ said i am the light verse 3 thou has multiplied the nation and not increased the joy they joy before thee according to the joy and harvest and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil for thou hast broken the yoke of his burden and the staff of his shoulder the rod of his oppressors as in the day of media that's at the hand of gideon remember the great battle of gideon god takes care of his own verse 5. for every battle of the warrior is with confused noise and garments rolled in blood but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire why what's the last verse of hebrews chapter 12 god is a consuming fire his fire is the holy spirit to some it warms it lifts and to some it consumes verse six listen carefully you can identify for unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder why ultimately on that first day of the millennium he will be king of kings and lord of lords and his name shall be called wonderful counselor the mighty god the everlasting father the prince of peace which name do you know him by melchizedek do you know him by yeshua do you know him by jesus or let me ask it in a different way this is the word of god and god is not a liar who is the prince of peace there's only one and you know who that is so who who is the speaking of christ naturally verse 7 of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end it's going to be eternal upon the throne of david in other words if you want if you have the key to david to trace that genealogy generation after generation it's not that difficult it hasn't really been that long ago and upon his kingdom to order it and to establish establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever the zeal of the lord of hosts will perform this he has that government is very much in existence today that is to say in the spiritual sense but let's use a little common sense what does it mean to say that it is in the spiritual sense if you partake of that government which is to say the kingdom what does the word kingdom mean it means a king with a dominion who is the king christ what is the dominion this world and if you claim the power that he has given us and god was not joking or saying idle words when he said touch not mine anointed holds very true to this day and when you become a part of that it's not from paycheck to paycheck friend it's not from one job to the next it's not from one year to the next you have a home eternal you have a you have position you have most of all blessings from god that gets you ahead why because you use common sense if god so wrote one of the benefits of this kingdom and i'm showing you i'm using this as an example to show you how the old testament in as much as it speaks of him the prince of peace how the commandments given forth by him to those that would serve him the blessings that would follow they are abundant or you can always choose to flounder flop like a fish out of water in a world that you don't understand for as sure as sure as it was written in psalms 22 word for word the crucifixion even down to the last words in the last verse it is done the hebrew equivalent of the greek it is finished and he expected you to read that he paid his life blood so that you would have an opportunity to hear him address you and give you instructions yes in that 22nd psalm even in the last two verses gave a special message to this generation the final generation the generation that has to do with the parable of the fig tree which we covered so aptly just recently in that 13th chapter of mark so you see by not only knowing where the old covenant or the old contract and it's a living contract it's very much in existence today and it lasts forever you can have a part of it mark you can go your own way it doesn't matter it matters a great deal to some when they see their loved ones take the wrong path but you can always because of the price he paid this child that was born a babe to a virgin those those shortfallings can be erased gone forever paid for in full at an awesome price of his blood his life but he gave that price for you oh yes the old testament speaks of jesus that's what the old testament is about that's what the old contract is about the new contract was simply that second half when it was the first was fulfilled and but but always remember this that that was still prophecy to happen after the appearance of this child was yet future don't ever lose sight of that okay let's pick it up in the next verse if we may continuing on there with the eighth verse the lord sent a word unto jacob jacob when it is used in this sense means the natural seed meaning all twelve tribes and it hath lighted upon israel nine and all the people shall know how many all the people shall know even ephraim ephraim being accounted the larger tribe of the ten therefore usually addressing the ten and the inhabitant of samaria being the place where the assyrians took captive the ten tribes that say in the pride and stoutness of heart verse 10 the bricks are fallen down but we will build with human stones the sycamores are cut down but we will change them into cedars the cedars of lebanon which is to say symbolically speaking from the word of god the cedars of lebanon are symbolic of the people of god the cedars of lebanon with satan and it's difficult to pick this up i have referenced out of the 31st chapter of ezekiel where it says asher there is no article for asha in the garden for asher was not in the garden but the word in the hebrew is ti asha which means satan and had reference to satan he's just a plain old t asha is a box cedar not a cedar of lebanon plain old box cedar a lot like what we would call salt cedar today good for nothing and some of you people that live on old red river down between texas and oklahoma you know what i'm talking about good for nothing that's what god stated concerning satan so what it's saying is it will be rebuilt with the real thing this has a strong reference to isaiah 14 8 where it sp addresses satan o lucifer thou son of the morning hour thou fallen to this earth again to bring deception to muddy the water whereby people could not see the contract and would even start a fable such as jesus isn't mentioned in the old testament when that's what the old testament is about did jesus not say in matthew 5 i come not to destroy the law which is to say the word but to fulfill it i will not change one jot or tittle that means the jot is the smallest letter in the hebrew alphabet wouldn't and and a jot is one that that you put under one to make give it an a or an e sound i wouldn't change even the sound of one letter is what he said and there we have it our father's word the precious word the contract your contract you know inasmuch as ultimately i'm going to i'm going to go into symbolism myself for a moment if i may and as much as many times the final day is called a wedding by some and in parable sense yes that christ is returning to take a bride so in a way you might say in certain circumstances this is your marriage contract it tells you when you mess up how to have forgiveness for it and how to receive again the blessings of god see it's all positive there's nothing negative about it well i'd like to confess my sids to god but i don't want him to know about it don't worry friend he knows about it it's already written in your little book right there by your name guilty all you have to do is say lord i love you and if you loved me enough that you that came so innocent into this world and paid that price for me if you'll forgive me i'll try harder can't promise that i won't fall again or slip up but i'll try innocent is written in that book just like that and then you'll have these and say well i i i'm a sinner no if you repent you're not a sinner it's gone if you say it isn't and you keep crying in your milk you're gonna you're gonna end up you know uh what you're ultimately saying is christ wasn't able to forgive my sins i repented but i'm still mournful right christ is you're almost calling him a liar that's dangerous stuff my friend so you if you're going to practice christianity you'd better be a believer or leave it alone because that can turn into blasphemy very quickly so you see you can take advantage of that that's what the contract is it is a set of rules yeah rules are good rules are something that everyone goes through and say well i like that one and i like that one i like that one well that one that one i might break that one i wonder what the penalty is you know i wonder if i'll get caught you know it says 55 miles an hour i could do 65 for 10 miles and there's no places hills or anything that a patrolman could be hiding in that area so i could do 65 through there and the odds of me being caught were pretty shallow pretty shallow well i'll risk it and about that time they got a bear in the sky or a bear in the air or whatever they call it you know and he's got you anyway all right so if you get caught don't complain you willingly broke the law and if you're caught you're going to pay friend and you owe it no need crying in your beer at that time when you play you pay but maybe a different subject for a different time but it is a contract and it is good because it keeps us out of trouble though we get in trouble though we fall short okay here is one place i want to go to isaiah 53 one of my favorite chapters of the book of isaiah 53 is jesus mentioned in the old testament well you know something this 53rd chapter that's about all it speaks about is jesus about yeshua and let's just start it here let's just go with it a little ways here chapter 53 verse one who hath believed our report question and that's a good question i wonder how many of you today believe it and to whom is the arm of the lord revealed and this refers to emmanuel jesus for he shall grow up before him as a tender plant little old baby in a manger and he'll grow he'll be with his uncle joseph for a while of arimathea and as a root out of dry ground he hath no form nor commonness this means he's he's he is handsome but he's silent he seems to be submissive and when we shall see him there is no beauty that we shall desire of him good looking lad just mighty handsome wholesome just what every mother would want her son to be and i might say further just what a father would want his son to be verse 3 he is despised and rejected of men why a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief why he was perfect he was innocent and we hid as it were our faces from him he was despised and we esteemed him not even peter said i know him not they scattered when he was smitten don't you understand this is speaking of the crucifixion of that little babe that was born in the manger that changed the very calendars that you go by this day don't you say it isn't important turn this world upside wrong to upside right all right you understand what i'm saying verse 4 surely he hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows yet we did esteem him stricken smitten of god and afflicted for god did allow it you see if you've seen the son you have seen god god loved his children enough that he would bear their sins if they would simply repent and say i'm sorry father i'm sorry and then it was quite clean the tears wiped away but he had to go through this because of our sins many people will say well why did he have to be sacrificed because we are sinners when you play you pay friend only the real sad thing is he paid for us we do the playing and he does the pain verse five but he was wounded he was purist is what it says hands and feet for our transgressions our sins our shortcomings he was bruised for our iniquities the chastisement of our peace was upon him and with his stripes we are healed and so it is what a beautiful scripture oh when they placed that crown of thorns upon him and the blood trickled down his forehead chastising him mocking him blindfolding him and then somebody behind him saying if you're a prophet who hit you that time just the real sad thing is he was the only one that was perfect all of us deserve to take those stripes but no he took them for us you know why that's love you'll never hear of from a human being practically beloved verse six was jesus spoken of in the old testament you tell me all we like sheep have gone astray we have turned everyone to his own way every man for himself and the lord hath hid on him the iniquity of us all he carried it he bored verse 7 he was oppressed and he was afflicted yet he opened not his mouth did he open his mouth when pilate questioned him no of course not now beloved this was written somewhere between 712 bc to about 600 beasts now about 650 bc 650 years at a minimum before the actual thing came to pass what man could have written this it documents that yeshua filled this role of antichrist i mean of the christ who would fight against antichrist our champion and let's continue then with that verse he was oppressed and was afflicted yet he opened not his mouth he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter he was that lamb slaying and as a sheep before her shares is dumb so he openeth not his mouth not one complaint beloved in paying your price all he asks you to do is to love him in return repent when you do sin try to do a little better and as it is written in the new testament the new contract and the old you're to stand against antichrist you're not to listen to his deception you'd become wise in his government to know and understand verse 8 he was taken from prison and from judgment he was judged by herod he was judged by pilate but the judgment was actually done by the chief priest and his stooges and who shall declare his generation do you know what his generation is his election for he was cut off out of the land of the living for the transgressions of my people was he stricken he was killed on the cross in the flesh but he did not die verse 9 and he made his grave with the wicked in other words to the grave means the death of the flesh he was hanged between two male factors two thieves yet one repented at least one that came to pass again a minimum of 650 years before the fact and with the rich in his death he was buried in his uncle joseph of arimathea joseph the tin man not written in god's word but in history of man a brand new fresh tomb hewn in new stone it would even be his uncle joseph that would claim the body documenting he was the nearest of kin because he had done no violence neither was any deceit in his mouth well if christ isn't mentioned in the bible then pray tell me who is this that has never done violence and there's never been deceit in their mouth you could not say that about this man there have been times i certainly have slept and i know of no living being since he walked the earth that can fill the bill so why would someone ask does the old testament again it's all right to ask if you don't know but certainly it would be an error to say the old testament does not speak of jesus it's full of yeshua yet it pleased the lord to bruise him why because of the love for his other children if you've seen the son you've seen the father it pleased him to bruise himself whereby his children could have his love his forgiveness and he had put him to grief for when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed he shall prolong his days and the pleasure this is the purpose and the pleasure of the lord shall prosper in his hand do you understand as it is written in the book of revelation that god created all things for his pleasure do you know do you know that he created you your soul the soul that entered that little pink embryo that came from your mother's womb that he created that soul for his pleasure and i wonder if you've pleasured him lately verse 11 he shall see the travail of his soul and shall be satisfied by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many for he shall bear their iniquities he's going to bear their sins if they repent he paid the price not free my friend not free he paid an awesome price but it's free for you therefore will i divide him a portion with the great and he shall divide the spoil with the strong because he hath poured out his soul unto death he died on that cross and he was numbered with the transgressors right up there with the mouth factors crucify him they cried that night and he bear the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors was jesus mentioned in the old testament how many times how many times and the beautiful report of his love for you if a man loves someone enough to die for them that is love indeed you know a mother might do it i think there are a lot of mothers that would literally die for their children there are men and women both that have died for their country for that purpose but for one to simply die for the sins of a stranger's if we were to call them that he did that oh yes the old testament speaks of jesus you see jesus is the subject and the object of the old testament for then there would be many that would say oh no it's of the children of israel and this hey in him there is only one body there is oneness there is one god and if you have seen the son you have seen the father one god then was jesus god no that was an office but god filled that office oneness one body you see yeah that's right both the old and new basically that's what it is about so if someone asks you as jesus mentioned in the old testament just boldly speak out and say yes you see that's what it's about and then they'll understand it's a beautiful beautiful old covenant it was our beginning it was our start it was the basic contract a covenant of love blood yeah there was bloodshed his yes you can say it with great conviction jesus is mentioned in the old testament all right bless your heart you listen a 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refer to how do we view and handle this day well i have a philosophy make hay while the sun shines how many times do children come to your door in a joyful mood basically most of them are it's very easy to have something sitting at the door concerning christ where this great nation is mentioned in the bible there's ever so many things just sitting there out of the way sitting there and and you know your our little children it is it's not the best thing in the world when we say no we do not participate in any of the traditions of men well some traditions are all right i'm not saying i'm not that high on halloween but basically it started out as hallowed evening it was a religious holiday and then we got the good old jack of jack-o'-lantern in in and i think that came from my country which we we're good at starting stories all right if i remember right the jack-o'-lantern was started because there was a man named jack and he was so mean that he sure couldn't get in heaven and hell wouldn't have him either so he has to wander the earth carrying this little lanyard looking for a place for his soul well that's a bunch of malarkey but i don't see how a pumpkin with two eyes and the nose and teeth can do all that much harm in other words you have to forgive we irish we start some little stories sometime but usually there's more behind that than meets the eye but we were sent to this world to help people do you understand what i'm saying not to set ourselves aside as so different that we can not afford to touch the sinners all right always well chaperone any child you allow to go out into the night and self-examine anything that they might receive as a gift if you do participate i'm not telling you to that's your responsibility but let your children know that you live in this world but let them know what the truth is from god's word let them be shining examples of what children in christ look like make hay while the sun shines you know an innocent little object can start a conversation many times give candies that well enough said enough said helen from california this morning you mentioned the two churches smyrna in philadelphia again and when explaining about the canines those are the only two churches christ found nothing wrong with found no fault and they both teach who the synagogue of satan is those that would claim to be of our brother judah which causes some hurt to our brother judah but it's not judah it's the sons of king that claim to be of judah if if a church doesn't teach that and identify it through like the 13th chapter of matthew as to who the sons of cain are and you would be surprised how many christians would say well i never heard of that before well you've never read god's word it's very simple it's there so uh helen yes that's the uh that's the reason i mentioned those now let's get on with your question when we're looking for a local church to attend for fellowship i know it should be as one of those who the two they must teach who the canaanite is but how are we to discern through the sermon and so forth whether a church would do this i've asked this question a lot and don't really know how to answer them how can i be sure about this you have learned we have learned so much from you god bless you well thank you helen i appreciate that it never hurts to go in a church and visited enough to find out what they teach whether they teach that or not they're well good they're good people and it's just that there are not that many teachers actually and unfortunately satan has already thrown out his little blanket of deception whereby there are many ministers that would be fired on the spot if they were to teach a sermon on the kenai which is a hebrew word that simply means sons of cain being fully translated rather than transliterated so be patient with them give them all a good chance and and much blessings be upon you michael from maine in reference to mark 10 6 i thought when souls were created they were all male please explain well now michael i want you to go back and i want you to read that 10th chapter again it's speaking of the beginning of this earth age when they were created in flesh all right god created flesh man adam and eve and placed the soul that he had created from before in each of them all right but the subject is flesh bodies all right uh brock from canada i love and appreciate you well thank you brock we we love you too and thank you and and proud of you for studying god's word i have a close relative who is very turned off to hearing the truth if she dies what will become of her soul does she have a chance in the millennium this is really troubling me will it be like lazarus and the rich man documentation please well your documentation is lazarus and the rich man i would recommend that you get you a good speed apocrypha and read second ezdra chapter 7 verse 77 and really get a little better idea of what happens there i i would of course never say or judge a person if she passes on before antichrist gets here it really doesn't matter whether she knew or didn't know because she wasn't faced with the situation and probably earned the right in the world it was for that to come to pass that soul that was placed in her it isn't right that we judge people but if she has never had an opportunity to know the truth that is to say if she has listened to people say well you'd better be this denomination or you're going straight to hail and this one over here said you're going to burn and hail forever born like a piece of bacon if you don't join this church and then you got one over here that says if you do not fellowship with us brethren you're a god gosling all right so you got this over here what is what is an unbeliever to believe which one are you going to believe if you're a layperson boy that didn't scare anybody off any wise person would uh do you think god would burn them like like a piece of bacon if if they had to listen to a bunch of people idiots really like that i think not i think she'll be given an opportunity to learn the real truth from god's word gently forcefully forcefully and boldly merle from ohio is it written that god created all the souls at once it's implied yes proverbs chapter 8 one of the places there's another place in isaiah and it escapes me at the moment sorry but it is implied he's always fair all right dennis from california in ephesians chapter 6 verse 12 does wrestle not with spiritual wickedness in high places mean church leaders should not get involved in governmental political elections as um promoting their own candidates no it doesn't mean that at all and if you're not very careful that could that could really deceive you in the end times it means that we don't we don't wrestle against the power of the arm which is what a government is but principalities in high places and dark sayings come from satan meaning supernatural entities that's what the war is against not governments say so you that could really throw you off it could be a serious thing read on just a little further about three verses past your twelfth verse and understand greek is very fixed it's a beautiful language it tells you what you wear the the gospel armor for you put it on to stand against what i should say i'm going to let you read and find out for yourself but i think everybody knows the fiery darts of satan meaning supernatural powers uh marcy from california in revelation 10 7 what is the mystery of god is finished what exactly does this mean well why did christ speak in parables margie he spoke in parables because he did not wish all the people to understand at that time the millennium is soon enough for some if a person is going to bow to satan because they are a coward or they're weak then if they are not enlightened therefore to whereby they do understand they're not accountable for there is no sin if the sin is committed in ignorance if somebody bows to antichrist thinking he's truly jesus they're not going to hell for it they don't know any better and god judges no one to hell because they don't know any better they're going to know that's why satan at the end of the millennium is released again for a short season they still got to cut the mustard they've still got to stand against him knowing full well who he is but no not in ignorance it means that the mystery to some is finished because it's all over all right i i want to i want to give you just a little more help on that i want you to make a note of matthew 13. start about verse 34 35 where it speaks thereof the mystery of god that was hidden before the foundations of this earth that foundations of this earth the greek verb cabell means before the overthrow of satan and then think about it and read that whole chapter letting that be your pivotal point and i think you'll really get a blessing from it american california revelation 22 15 i thought the evil people were no more at this point in time mary i i know and many people it throws them a little bit but you've got to realize that in the 22nd chapter of the book of revelations and before that 15th verse john is returned to sic about 90 a.d all right he was returned to that time meaning that was a long long time ago then he was taken from the lord's day which is to say the first day of the millennium all the way back to the present condition in jerusalem and yes there was sin around him okay that's that's that's it many people make that same era so don't don't feel guilty or anything it's just a very common occurrence milo from minnesota would you explain john 5 verses 28 29 and 30 from the companion bible at the bottom of the page the graves and the tombs therefore they are not in heaven or hell i read in luke that there is a paradise with that great gulf separation between sinners and saints why do they put it so plain that there is graves and tombs when there aren't well there there were let's let's get this back to a reality all right number one you're quoting from luke chapter 16 concerning lazarus and the rich man and the great gulf that divides between those that overcame and those that didn't they all go back to the father to be absent from this body is to be present with the lord but some of them don't make it now this was a one time event in john 5 28 and 29 and 30. this is where when christ was resurrected that it appeared it appeared that many of the dead bodies came out of the grave and went into town i like i usually use an analogy such as hey that old baker that was down on the corner that died last month that he came out of that grave and i saw him in town so i know this is the purpose i know that man jesus that died on the cross was the son of god because he defeated death because he brought that old baker right back into town it was a one time event so that idiots like today that's a good name for what i'm about to say some of these so-called scholars that have had a little peek at the dead sea scrolls and i wonder why they already have with their poison pens that would say christ never died on the cross that he was drugged there it's like that idiot passion a passover plot that some no good wrote no good scholar is what i'm saying there this is why that the dead sea scrolls are no there is some female and i'm i'm partial to female i'm not don't come down on women it just so happens that this idiot was a woman that is really trying to say the dead sea scrolls opened it up that christ never really died he was just drugged so you can get ready for it and then is there any question in your mind why the dead sea scrolls have been hidden all these years when they were found in 47 and 48 really come on to the party wake up and smell the roses um but it was to back to your point here milo i just got carried away a little bit but it irritates me it does you're you're looking at a student of god's word here one of the very few scholars of the moscow in this nation and there is no way you could you can you can lay your i mean lay it on it i will never be given a copy of the dead sea scrolls and after they've had 45 years or longer to hanky with them i don't know that i do want a copy of them all right i'm not so much interested in the books of the bible as i am the interim books the interim writings that are there that told what happened after the sheep scattered that told what happened to christianity i know it's there but beloved you will never see it okay lori from california could the stories of jacob and esau i still didn't finish my point here i got off on my little this was a one-time thing so that people that would write stuff like this could not counter the fact that people that had already died were walking they came from paradise back here to fulfill that role to document that christ defeated death okay that was the purpose lord from california could the stories of jacob and esau and cain and abel be examples of antichrist coming first well it could and as she's drawing there from the firstborn it could if you wish to look at it in that light pam from pennsylvania do we have prophets today like they did in time past if not why well we have teachers of the prophets and it's written very well in acts chapter 2 that both sons and daughters would prophesy when the holy spirit speaks through him at the appearance of antichrist caroline from new jersey i can't seem to find in the strong's concordance words on was to document genesis 1 2 was equals become became help well i don't know if you've had my tape on the three world ages i wish you would order it because you have to you can draw from other places as well and your companion bible will give it to you okay or you can take a greek and a linear and it will help you hebrew in a linear and it will help you some i'm out of time i love you all so much and you know why because you enjoy studying his word hey you just love to jump in there and get with it and that's why i like studying with you and how much we do learn when we do that don't be afraid of questions they're healthy and that's the way you come to an understanding in our father's word we're brought to you by your tithes and your offerings if we've helped you if it's changed your life help us help others once you do that but there's one thing that is more important than that and that is that you stay in his word every day in it it's a beautiful day you know why jesus is the living word hearing god's word with understanding will change your life we hope you have enjoyed studying god's word here on the shepherds chapel family bible study hour with pastor arnold murray if you would like to receive more information concerning shepherds chapel you may request our free introductory offer our introductory offer contains the mark of the beast audio tape our monthly newsletter with a written bible study a tape catalog and a list of written reference works available through shepherd's chapel to request our free introductory 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