Chace Crawford & Penn Badgley - Actors on Actors - Full Conversation

I finished the first season of your show the boys last night and I was very surprised from beginning to end because it starts out as this super here I mean I honestly thought it was going to be a superhero show right like something along the lines of what we've seen and then I mean very quickly it turns into this I mean I was I was a little bit like oh it was so alarming how quickly it takes that turn and then you realize oh they're they're not superhero well there are superheroes but they're not they're not good they're not heroes you look better than ever you don't want to get me in those certainly scenes anymore I got to figure them on and buddy I you know I checked out season 1 of of you a couple years ago watching season 2 last night no it's interesting to see you up there for one thing and sees you know see a guy that I worked with so so for so long just be on my TV screen again but um was it interesting for you you know the show starting out at lifetime and and you know having a certain trajectory on that and then being moved to you know a Netflix original and being in front of you know hundred million people sort of instantaneously and you know that doesn't just count the show it got great great reviews and it was a super viral hit I mean there's no way you could have seen the the cultural phenomenon side of that of that coming was that an interesting experience for you to kind of move from one thing to the next and then see it blow up it actually I've I think when I see now in retrospect is that it makes way more sense as a kind of cultural hit as a cult hit because I think when when so few people were watching it on lifetime the network for women of all networks it was I think I was wondering about the moral ambiguity of it and I know I've been you know transparent about my moral conflict playing this guy so I think I felt much better about what we were doing once a lot of people were watching not because I needed this sort of gratification of a lot of viewers but more like okay it makes sense you know it makes sense what we're doing and it's people are responding to like the way we're coming into this conversation about about the tropes of the romantic comedy and and the tropes of the romantic white male lead you know yeah I gotcha it definitely seemed like it switch gears to season 2 it I definitely noticed some differences there as well but was there did you feel that like I don't know why you only waiting call buzz or expectation coming into the second season or was there more press opportunities and more obvious you know in time for season two the first season dude was so because we did the whole I mean now you know like on a streaming show you make the whole thing before anybody's seen it or is it the same with yours it was the exact same not only did ya get the first season it got picked up for second season and it's still we did comic-con still hadn't come out we had no idea so we knew that some wait you know what actually I think the same I think the same thing happened to us I think we got picked up for a second season I think yeah I think we got picked up for a second season before anybody had seen the first and then it was like oh you know what it's not doing too well on lifetime we're gonna have to pull back the second season and then it went to Netflix from goth gonna play to plain despicable murderers yeah guys I mean it's just the natural progression it's it's really popular now if I had the same qualms you did and and indefinitely you know going into season two and it kind of already dropping before that was a little bit of a you know wait like okay people people are responding to this in at least a positive way and and they're getting it you know what I mean they're understanding it so what I really like about your character which is for better or worse kind of similar to mine is that you start out knowing just carte blanche how bad he is Andy and I honestly for me too man not knowing the tone of the show the first episode it continues to unfold you know like wait oh wait oh wait oh wait yeah and honestly before before your character has his like you know reveal and be in literally in figured on aside to see you play this dignified superhero I and I'm like oh turn and then the whole show is that sort of right and I mean that's what mine is like it's like they're they're both shows where immediately they take the trope they're working with in your case it's a superhero in my case I guess it's like the romantic male lead or the romantic comedy and the leads both male and female and and then basically but in the first episode it's bludgeoned it with a sledgehammer or you know sexually assaulted it and it just and it just goes down from there in a way which is which is it's quite interesting to see the the commentary and satire that show runners are most interested in now and that would audiences seem to be most interested in it's like you know what we've seen the happy sweet saccharine stuff and now we're looking to deconstruct it all because we see kind of how it hasn't served us maybe I think that's where both these shows are touching on the some kind of conversation you know I agree I agree with you fully and that actually I had a I had a question about that because I I didn't you know I haven't really followed followed it the whole time up until recently but I didn't know if how you thought of it as a romantic comedy or the dark comedic elements because good ask do you realize how funny you are in some of the some of the moments I mean you really yeah outside nudists people character I know you though I know I know you so well that you you really you got me on some of the moments man it makes it adds an extra layer of entertainment to it and it also sort of you know complicates my character for being obviously a total despicable you know evil guy and there's some comedy there you know he's almost pathetic he's kind of all mobile Luther in some way for the deep and it's kind of this weird gray area that you don't know what the what the feel yeah actually I found I found your character to be far more like kind of relatable and sweet I mean I think my character has that son because that's what people seem to respond to but your guy he I mean especially because by the end he's being assaulted himself which I have to say I was like there's something about a Gil that and her and I'm sorry I'm spoiling this for anybody but like it was so visceral because like you couldn't you couldn't otherwise show such an intimate kind of like assault if we were dealing with actual human genitalia but the fact that it's like this so it becomes an allegory in a way where we're seeing like her penetrate you and it's weird man it was hard to I was surprised with hard watch it was it was not fun to shoot what did you how much of that how much of that was like what how did you what did you do how much of that was prosthetic how much of it was like CGI they yeah it was all it was a bunch they did they did the actual prosthetics on on my skin for support for the first part of the scene and they had this great new shaker members name I think was Paul II had a great special effects guy replicated this in tight my entire torso down to like the little chest here and so I laying there and I have my own fake torso on me with the gills that have a little bit more you know a little bit more room and he's gonna let me just pumping him with these air pumps so they move oh my god I'm nauseous can we just get out of here yeah you know and she the directing her it was the whole thing but yeah very I haven't I had this one I had a similar thing where we we had to make a prosthetic arm of my right arm I think yeah because I get my my pinky cut off in the second episode you Mitch you missed it but that was a bit surreal I what I loved them about their special effects guys to make these prosthetics is that they're so sweet and like really into the craft that was my experience at least they're like they love horror they love blood they spray blood everywhere but they're like such sweet dudes like really really into the craft it's like old-school craft of filmmaking I thought that was it's just the righteous thing dynamic mares tonight that's like but that's their whole world and yeah it was just it was just the gills for me but you know it's interesting that that that those are the things that make that character feel and secure a ride he kind of you know grew up as a freak and doesn't you know feel like he was ever you know the superhero right he's always the fish guy he's always trying to try and prove himself you know and he's insecure so I don't even know I don't know what I saw down there as a matter of fact when he was really dark and nasty muddy water was really muddy I'm sorry okay I'm sorry III didn't I didn't really see anything down there as a matter of fact it seems like it see what I thought was touching was the fact that you I mean you know you're obviously a very handsome man and an incredible shape by the way you're in better shape than ever chase I was just watching I was like wow I really let it go like when when the deep doesn't want to see the human name is Kevin yeah Kevin so when Kevin the deep when he's when this woman asks him to take off his his suit I don't know it was just another moment where I was surprised by the vulnerability of your character where again I think my character like plays it having vulnerability in a way but is probably has a well definitely has a much deeper psychosis I mean your guy is actually trying he's like he's actually just sort of redeeming himself and trying to save fish maybe not people but he's trying to save fish whereas like my my guy he's he's got such a psychosis that I don't as a viewer see him as being at all as sweet or adorable as a redeem or redeemable you know but then of course when I'm playing him I guess maybe that's a question I have for you I know that when I play Joe is a very different experience from watching Joe or thinking about Joe you know before they say action and after they say cut I can have all of my own thoughts but between action and cut in order to play Joe I just believe everything he says you know just I gotta believe it right when numbers when when when you were in that first episode because you're the worst in the first episode I mean arguably you're you know you go in this arc where like you you really are changing right you're changing but like in the first episode that was such a like a dagger to the heart because he's so I mean he's so controlling he's so unbelievably controlling of what starlight that's her name right I mean did you feel like you had trouble being that way did you feel like you had trouble judging the character and getting in your own way I did actually it was kind of it was kind of tough to do and to be honest you know it was in the comics like that very specific shot like I'm one of the covers and it was a big jumping-off point for her character and also as well as is my arc you know as well and a bit of commentary on what they want to make on superheroes you know never meet never meet your heroes but that was not in the scene wasn't in the script and I guess they kind of decided it was gonna be it was gonna be my character and they kind of dropped it on me we were all in trial you know like a few weeks out and they were like you know how do you feel about this we want you we want you don't have to do the scene basically kind of thing so I didn't know I was gonna do it and so I was the only scene that we actually really we were Hurst Allah we got together and talked about it for like weeks beforehand and we spent almost an entire day shooting it and and yeah it was tough and it was weird and and but anyway Erin Moriarty such a great actress and her and I are friends and felt comfortable but yeah I was a little bit interested to see like where is it gonna go you know from here and and how is that how we gonna we gonna play that but again it was just kind of that thing where he he's almost you know he just does that he's done that his whole life he's used that sort of modus operandi and manipulated people his entire life and it's kinda he's almost like shocked like what what what you know like he doesn't really see yeah what's that all that bad about it and so you know obviously you get some come up and come up with later but yeah but but it's that gray areas were what I think they wanted to play with and then and it's not so black and white you know so how much of his that that really awful strain of white privilege of male privilege how much of that if if that scene where he basically like cuz you don't see the assault itself but you but you see this sort of odd yes actually like you do know you see you see one form of it and then it's implied that it goes on so if that wasn't in the script how much of how much of him did you know like how it like how you know did you know that he was supposed to be just generally like well there was actually had another scene in there I'm remembering it where he assaulted her physically in a different way and there was like he was if I remember yeah it was some some type of drug and he would he was on on drugs and he's sort of physically in warmth or in a more forceful way not sexually so that that was kind of in there oh okay I'm gonna be doing okay so it's right okay it is switched but but yeah I didn't really fully know where they were gonna go with it we maybe got in the first like three scripts you know so um but that's what's interesting about about about Jo as well wait like we know who this guy is like right out right out the gate you know and and it's almost I mean maybe not right out the gate but you know it's almost 20 minutes in at least I was reading some of your interviews oh it's interesting how it's like it's almost it is almost like an odd continuation of dan dan yeah yeah you know Gossip Girl the show you know whatever your reaction is I'm whether it was smart to do that or not that he's Gossip Girl you know what I may be kind of oh he's kind of been it didn't really line up with the character of Dan right and yeah I just find it interesting that Joe we kind of know this guy is you guys as a show really really kind of go for that and and it you know you kind of know what you're in for and it's an interesting it's just interesting why people rip lights continue you don't want to continue watching that and sit and see where it goes you know what I mean it's just it's yeah man I mean sure porn is a shock value I mean people love it it's all of those things and more I mean I think it's emblematic of our times because you know back in 2007 I mean dude 2007 like that's a long time ago when we were you know just boys it's like people wanted to watch a show like Gossip Girl and because it was aspirational it was like it was escape you know it was escapism it was it was it's like yeah it seemed like it struck a certain cultural chord because it was this aspirational fantastical vision of excess and wealth and it's like man what must that be like but now cut to ten thirteen years later people are not interested in that and I think rightfully so you know now they're into in deconstructing why we're so fascinated with that in the first place you know we're interested in deconstructing those those those systems of privilege if you will you know now I'm not saying that our television shows are doing that but I'm saying that's what people are more interested in so therefore these shows reflect that you know because back in 2007 you also were probably I'm trying to think them that was sort of the beginning of the arc of a lot of the comic-book hero stuff too I mean you know it definitely wasn't the way that it is now where we've seen every version of every hero imaginable we've seen the universe turn to dust like three times I know that's why I found the show interesting because I you know I've seen all the superhero stuff bit of fan since I was a kid it's just there is a bit of over saturation I did I was hoping that people would clue in on the satirical nature of it you know here's with what if the superheroes are bad and it is darkly comedic and also harrowing at times you know there's some you know messed up stuff that happens in this in the season but but it is interesting to flip it on its head and and still have some elements of that while you know showing that these guys are you know total or you know that it sort of dropped back back in oh seven oh nine Gossip Girl was edgy back then you know no man I know it's funny because it really it really was and now I mean I haven't seen in this so long it would be very interesting to watch it now have you seen it recently buddy I mean that was on the question list I was going to ask I know that I watched an episode with with my now wife with Domino before we got married it must have been it must have been like I don't know six months after we met or something she had never seen it in one and that's the last time I can remember seeing an episode I remember even then it's there's nothing to do with a show but I was just sort of it's very hard to watch because I felt like you know these snapshots of yourself when you're 20 years old 21 years old 22 years old I mean who who who who can enjoy that I did sometimes it's just you know it's uncomfortable it's like man I can see how self-conscious I was I can see I can see myself that much in general so to go back and open that time capsule I mean we lived it you know I think I think there won't be some nostalgic you know value possibly too so we're doing that when you come to LA well I will have a drink or watching a party dude have we live tweeted a viewing of any episode of Gossip Girl people would love that are you kidding first iPhone came out I remember you guys yeah remember you had it at Alawis port you had the first iPhone and think about that now I mean now you know there was camera more about camera phones and this and that I mean oh yeah I do Blake got me that yeah yeah I remember so cumbersome and it has all these like apps it has apps on it yeah but man and I even remember meeting a publicist that first season and she was talking about this thing called Twitter and I and as she explained Twitter I was like what is this nonsense this is I don't want to have a Twitter account and you tweet what is this bird like like explaining it to me which is why I'm not a technological genius I have refined explaining it to me was such a foreign concept and I was just so patently uninterested that's something that actually years later man I think we got to give credit to Gossip Girl like it was in a way like a futuristic concept it was it was trying to get that social media before social media it really was I mean it was really tapped into something interesting on the cusp of it all changing I mean Instagram came out after why would I want to put my life out there I'm sure Michelle yeah right but but now we all we're all poor taking you know it's a part of the romance right when did you do you have forgive me I don't follow you do you have you must have social media accounts now right we should fall see this is the thing I should find resistant so long I should you know now you see where it goes I was you know trying to be an too cool for school we could be we could be you know yeah we could like we could have Rihanna level followers actually it's probably not true could have been the first put the stake in we'd have 100 million you know the original reactions no but I I think I got it in 2015 I mean way late yeah me too me five years ago it's time I got the public public once so yeah I'm doing this on my phone otherwise I would follow you right now I'll follow you after can you tell me if this coral young book is vegan if the if the book is new here huh there's everyone in LA I walk around like they own the place you got me I just started this week the books are made from trees I'm pretty sure those are vegan I'm just messing with the old sport oh now you think it's interesting on your show and I maybe I only know this because I caught an article on my Apple news feed or something but now there's like a conversation I thought was interesting about romantic comedies of the past you know weaving and stalking in a much more sort of maybe maybe more subtle and insidious way like like I'm trying to think of examples but you know at the at the beginning of the first episode of season 2 when Joe's looking through the telescope when he sees love bring the book and you realize he's reading the same book in another in another show or time liner tone you know that could be totally played off as being a very cute adorable like charming thing to do right and I think you guys play with that line a little bit you know yeah well I think once well first of all I mean the person who sort of initiated the whole thing the generating impulse for it is Caroline kept this who wrote the book series both you and hidden yeah and and I think she was playing with that in its own way probably more I mean what you're able to do in a book is obviously very different from any other medium you know I mean the whole thing is from his perspective it's like you walk into the bookstore and you are wearing a green sweater I can see that you were not wearing a bra like all that kind of stuff that's the entire book is from his perspective so some of the things that I think translated nicely but are different is the way that Joe the way that we're inside Joe's mind is through his narration and then also it is what you're mentioning this like on this in a way it is satire I think it's probably funny I don't know I don't know pretty like I hope it's funny I think it's meant to be funny and Jim I think yeah and and by the way that is what I think was less clear when the show was on lifetime it was like hmm okay where is this tone landing for people you know cuz they're yeah looks like there wasn't enough of a testing pool and then once it became a hit it was like alright the tone makes sense the tone is coherent there is humor and it is very dark and there's some stuff it's very scary but ultimately it's coherent you know yeah we always very I think we were all worried ball or shooting what the tone was really gonna look like mainly because you know there's also like 20 different characters in our show and I'm the deeps on his own movie and you got the boys that are their own movie it's like a dip shot differently superhero right well our stuff is kind of good like how is this all gonna you know it's dark and it's messed up and there's salt and you know it's funny to my house that all gonna work so but yeah I figured some people got the dark comedy of of you because because you you play it really really well so that's always been I mean I feel like what we did on a gossiper all the time was we would joke about how else we could play it if we were kind of like on a different show and I no way I feel like we've had the opportunity to do that now you know we're both playing like these sort of emblematic guys these sort of iconic level sort of characters but now they're both terrible and and I mean the truth is nothing that much has changed it's just that it's a different lens it's you know how it changes the whole thing they're like a refreshing maybe refreshes wrong yeah maybe like a refreshing redemptive or like refreshing element to getting to kind of stretch your legs and have you know have a little bit of the you know definitely is there's a little bit of an fu moment like I'm doing I'm doing this character it's kind of in-your-face I'm doing what I want you know what I mean was there a little bit of that or yeah I mean I've always tried to speak I've always tried to be both transparent and forthcoming and also like very respectful and grateful of of the way that Gossip Girl positioned me to to sort of be in a role like this and for hat and and for it to have the particular effect that it has because it's interesting that you know regardless of my performance the fact that it's simply me you know who and the just one of the main characters at the show called Gossip Girl you know and then I ended up being Gossip Girl even though you know we can debate about whether or not that makes sense and we can debate about whether or not Dan is even like really a male lead in the show because the heart of the show was somewhere else but but anyway it's me you know playing this guy Joe and it makes a lot of sense in a way it makes a lot of sense it was one of the things that made me even think the funny thing is is I didn't get excited to be like oh this is such a different interesting take on a similar vibe I was if anything at that point too self-conscious about that and I was inclined to be like this is I know it seems quite different but in a way it's almost like then just with bloody hands like I don't know I yeah but I think what became really gratifying is like as you get into especially I think season 2 especially the second half of season two like episodes really seven through ten which I think you've really start to see Joe both try to change and get worse and and I don't know it gets into the psychosis of of this stuff at a really detailed level and and I had a lot I think now like now that I've done two seasons I really feel that I feel like I've now run like I do feel like I've got to stretch my legs I feel like oh yeah okay there's like there's like there's like this whole new body of work where I've gotten to experiment and almost comment on my previous body of work which is I don't know man I mean I wouldn't have anticipated it I wouldn't have if I even tried to plan it that way I would think your plane was fired there buddy but it worked my early 20s at a 20 research no I did I did that all on my own I made her eyes big with my performances I never seen anything like it yeah I feel like 40 was on to something you know I think the only way to get a script on is with a gun you're ahead you know it's someone forcing well maybe maybe maybe that'll work that's the one method I haven't tried maybe that's why how did you feel like that kind of that kind of brings to mind how every show we've been a part of you know the ones we're on now the one we were on together but then every show they're often what I've what I've come to accept and enjoy more now that I've matured as an actor particularly in television is how like you come across these really absurd situations is really really kind of like it's ridiculous I mean it really is ridiculous like that episode eight the acid trip if you try to think about it rationally it's convoluted and it and it gets into this really arch kind of drama stuff that if we didn't do it right you know it could fall flat and similarly with you like talking to lobsters which again I found it's like such a funny like if you didn't do it right it would fall so flat but it works yeah and especially because you're seeing a guy who's like legitimately going through a depression and he had but he has this like very touching relationship with these creatures that you got to think are in some way more pure you know and so anyway the point like my question is how do you feel often when you first read something like that like when you first read that he's actually starting to have conversations with fish like is your reaction issue like how am I gonna do that or where did you start to be like you know what I actually love that I'm like so down it was the latter man I always I loved that it was part of that was in the audition scene and so I knew there was a dark element I didn't quite know how dark but I also loved this ridiculous aspect to it where his only his only friends are like the local lobster man down in there you know down down at the local you know I can only go down there there's only only friends and they they take that joke even a little bit further in season 2 coming out this year but but yeah I know I loved it man I really you know the chance to do to incorporate some comedy and I think I you know at least in the audition I I was just trying to make Kripke laugh a little bit and you know they really let me run with it too which was a kind of a whole new experience for me after all who are you one of the seven and what does that mean I can do anything I set my mind to what do you want to say your mind to did you have any any improper I know it was based on a book so maybe it was pretty strictly to the script but yeah I don't know you know I think actually where I improv most ironically is in the end is in the voice-over booth oh it just ha yeah yeah only because it's like there's so much voiceover and I developed a trust with co-creators Greg Berlanti and and Sarah Campbell namely Sarah Campbell who's really the she's that she's the one at the helm they really trust me to go in there I go in there alone save the engineer and the co-producer there and and I get I'd get almost no direction sometimes like like I just go through an entire episode and then there are certain beats as I'm going through the episode where and we've not shot it yet generally so I'm going to the episode and it's like as it comes out of my mouth you realize hmm this is maybe there's something about this logic beat which is there's often so many different kind of layers of a moment because he's he's he's saying one thing to the person he's in the scene with he's thinking another about them but also this person who maybe he's killed and they're in the trunk of his car meanwhile he's like tweeting or texting or something to sort of cover it up and then he's also thinking about what he's gonna do in the next scene you know what I mean like you can see how kind of it is a lie it is really a lot all at once and sometimes difficult that is to do so seamlessly and that's interesting you said that you record it without shooting I thought it might be officer I thought you shoot it you do it like ADR where you're watching it and you know timing yeah I didn't know you did that actually they can't edit they can't really get they can't even I don't know how far they can get but they can't get very far in the editing process of an episode without at least a sketch track a sketch of vocal track of the voice-over so you know there are times where you know on my lunch break they're like with Simon but we're trying to lock episode seven and like we need this we need this scene you know or would it you know whatever it might be so the voice-over is actually like I feel like that's my largest contribution in this show is it's almost like I'm I'm a voiceover actor first and then basically dude I mean the rest of the time I'm just staring you know I mean really I think a lot of my work is in those in the voice-over booth and so and so I improv a lot but I but I I do improv I mean I give them a lot of I love like my sense of humor I love to play with the turns of phrase and yeah you know I'm sure that 95% of it is theirs but I get some of mine in there and and some of them some of them work quite well it's just like really trying to add my touch and and I I think sometimes I laugh because I'll give them so many alts of this of a given line because I I'm like oh that's really funny it's definitely headed somewhere let me see if I can let me see if I can sharpen it or let me see if I can change it let me see if you know and a lot of times it's stupid but I have to develop a trust even with the engineer because sometimes what I'm going for I'm so dumb well it's it's like if it's gonna work it's gonna work but if it's bad it's dumb and so I actually have to develop this confidence where I'm like alright whoever's gonna listen to this later in the engineer right here with me now I can't worry about looking stupid you know like there was even in episode 6 of season 1 where I was I was singing parts of the voiceover and there's a little bit of it that's in there just a little bit it's like he's talking and then it goes into this song because it's just ridiculous so anyway people don't know your musical talents though you should push that I feel like I feel like even for you you were still just scratching the surface of York remember when we were shooting I just wanted and I feel like the whole cast of Gossip Girl the whole crew felt like if you could be given some leeway in in in your bizarre brand of humor that it would just be like such a phenomenal hit I mean because still dude still I feel like there's so much of your comedic lens that is that that I'm sure I'm guess you know your co-workers and the boys have have seen it but I feel like I feel like you you are you are a comedic well just waiting to be tapped thank you yeah it's been fun I remember I did in Gossip brought members like our scenes in particular or maybe the only ones that I tried to work it in and I had a lot of fun I think I had the most more than some of the most fun moments are like you know the baton and the Nate and dance scenes you know what I mean I always you know wellmaybe was a tough character because you were such this straight guy you're just such the like you know it's kind of like he was so perfect that he only had anywhere to go but down you know he like yeah and yeah and he just yeah he was like not the humorous spoil yeah always punching his dad you know always punching the captain man no those are good days though man I don't even remember what our like first moment was on set I mean I remember the palace the palace hotel but and that was our touchdown in New York really - oh it was mine it was definitely my first time like experiencing New York and yeah yeah I mean we really got the you got the got they got the red carpet right away you know I was remarkable man it feels like another lifetime to me like I did when I think I'm being at the palace of the Palace Hotel that just feels like I feel like a different person it feels like another world another life it's pretty wild I'm try to remember the name of the I think it was Pete like the manager there yes dude yeah hey Cara was a P I wish I knew his lesson he was the best but he'd always like we're sitting there you know in the courtyard in between tanks he's just gonna be like camera loves you and just like walk away he's the one who when when Blake and I went there to eat like you know we were like eating it probably was when we were shooting there we got like a grilled cheese sandwich and suggested I was just like I was they had a grilled cheese sandwich there called the gossip girl grilled cheese sandwich and I was like I just called him and I was realized you should just call the gossip grill and then he was like took the menu from me he went back printed it changed the name right there printed a different menu and handed me a new menu with my suggestion and I was like okay this is a this is a way to live okay the new kids won't get that treatment man there's just no way the Rema is no way the new ones yeah I dude I'm so interested to see what it's like I'm so interested I wish him well I I really am also interested to see how people react to it it'll be interesting yeah for sure also because you know and now we're on both on shows that you know I kind of wish we did ten actually we only did eight but eight to ten compared to what we did was like twenty sometimes 25 26 episodes I mean looking back I don't actually looking back on it 26 was good in a way I mean because we're in New York right so I like that aspect and and and and the paycheck side was good but you know there was obviously less time to do other other stuff you enjoy now though especially having a family probably being you know shooting shooting 10 episodes is it like have more half a year or something six months yeah it takes about five and a half months to share swords and I mean I don't I don't prefer working like ten and a half months out of the year or five days a week 12 to 13 of 16 hours a day you know like the way that is way that it is on a 26-episode network television show let Gossip Girl was I don't desire that ever again because the hours are just so I mean trying to have a family like now that I have a family you know it's it's it's insane it's just insane but at the same time only doing only working like five and half months out of the year to me I mean that just means that there's there's a lot of other ways to not just fill up the time but to be truly productive so that's you know that's that's another conversation I definitely have some things in the pipeline that I'm developing but I'm - I'm until they exist I don't you know I don't really want to like talk about it on variety that's for sure but but yeah and I forget - you're working I mean I'm not sure you really in every like every shot every every scene almost right so it'll probably do in my experience well I mean it's different from any role I've had before because yeah he's just it's like he's just in every scene even the scene that he's not in it reveals the end he's he's in it because he's watching like there's like three seasons or four scenes a season that he seems like he's not in but the truth is he's either like watching or he's actually later in the second season they developed a kind of model where they're you were starting to see other scenes with more people but I mean I'm pretty sure that in both seasons I had three days off maybe and in I mean that's not a lot right and then you know a lot of that time is taken up with with voiceover work and so it's a it's a grueling like if this show was 26 episodes I died I would pass out I would like it's it's a very like by the end of a season of playing Joe I am just spiritually emotionally physically like like spent you know yeah in a way that I've never experienced that before I'm a pescetarian ignoramus are you okay you look a little no too soon too much too good and were you were you guys about to shoot season three before all the obviously the coronavirus stuff hit or what was that out well actually yeah we yeah we were we were gonna write about now I would have been moving out to LA for you know five six months season three that's great but you guys finished season two already you're saying right yeah we are was about five and a half months - we shot it in Toronto and we finished it about mid-november yes right before the holidays and then I you know we haven't heard like officially official season 3 thing or what you're eating good stuff I get I don't know you know I don't know when that's gonna what that's gonna look like coming down so yeah man you know so strange I we did in the show I remember I had this really estate where I I mean it was I mean you probably had a similar experience we had like decompress right from sort of the whole whole thing but when it all ended and I kind of made the decision to leave New York and it was kind of a hasty decision and at the time I got I got back to LA and I kind of regretted it you know I got a little depressed and it was the city was such a big part of my early 20s and in a lot of ways our college experience and you know was five and a half six years of our lives of that that sort of you know golden time you know growing up where you sort of formed your identity I do have I do have a big heart for New York man I miss it I miss it I miss it quite a bit even though I've made I made peace with with Los Angeles but I do miss that city man you know yeah I mean I think if you spend enough time there it's always a part of you in a way I ended up being there for 13 years just straight without any real this is the longest I've been out of the city you

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Length: 48min 47sec (2927 seconds)

Published: Tue Jun 30 2020

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