Busta Rhymes Shares Untold Stories About Biggie, Jay-Z & Tupac, Origins of Speed Rapping | Ep 227

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app today last minute tickets lowest prices guaranteed welcome back all the smoke Jack we got a good one today been waiting on this bro come on man legend in the game um MC actor man you name it he does it Buster Legend oh man Sal leg Legend epis Legend dropped the new project in November uh talk to us about that yeah the name of the new album is Blockbuster and ironically the name originally came from I mean we know the obvious with the video store and [ __ ] but qtip one day told me that I should name the album Blockbuster so big up to qtip from Tribe Called Quest rest in peace F do but the the funny [ __ ] is probably like four or five months later as I was talking to Swiss he felt like I should name the the album Blockbuster mind you he never talked to Q two separate conversations two different places so that was like a a some Divine [ __ ] going on so um I decided to call it that but but I think the most incredible part about the album is just the the the the love and the support of how my Bros from 25 years and better which is Swiss Timberland and farel came together and decided to to assist me on EXE producing the overall project and um that [ __ ] actually came about from us just chilling on a yacht in Miami for real you know he had a day with the family he was just chilling and he invited us to come and pull up and this was right after it was actually while Swiss was completing DMX last album rest in peace to the dog so we on a boat and we listen to DMX album and we we about 4 hours into the the yacht experience and I'm looking at these [ __ ] and I'm like ain't none of us going to talk about doing a project together this [ __ ] crazy than a [ __ ] like I ain't going to sit here looking at all of y'all and not at least bring this [ __ ] up you know what I'm saying like my Bros been a part of all of my projects at one point or another whether it's two out of the three of them or one out of the three of them and um when I mentioned it it started off as a idea to just do a EP six joints two Beats from each producer and that was it so then when they gave me the Six Beats I still felt so inspired that I kept working on songs with other artists and I think it was around the time when the first BET Awards happened postco [ __ ] a get to see each other for like two years cuz all that [ __ ] was shut down and I think [ __ ] would just so happy to see each other everybody was just pulling up on each other in each other Studio sessions and I got most of my collab work done for this album during that time so by the time it got to like 30 records I just had so much incredible and eventful moments that I would send all of them to joints being that you know it was understood that they was going to co-executive produce the album with me I wanted them to be a part of every decision-making process so they was a part of every decision-making process and what ended up becoming a body of work was a collective decision making I wouldn't say it was a smooth you know there was a lot of [ __ ] like [ __ ] you need to take that one off mhm be some [ __ ] that I was married to and be like get the [ __ ] about it I want to keep this record and they be like nah son save that for another moment but it's like you know these children these these records is like your kids when you make these shits you know what I'm saying you put your time into it you tweak [ __ ] you sit and wait until it's the right time to put it out and then you share it with the world so it's like when the project was done and big up to everybody that participated quo and COA Ray and beia and uh Chris Brown Shenia Giggs blue vros blast Moray my kids um Tay did I say the baby n the baby mhm um and all of The Producers you know it it just really came together as a as a a incredible body of work of just Feelgood energy throw the [ __ ] couches around when you in a club swing from the chandeliers hanging from the ceiling and [ __ ] and just have a good time and I felt like it was a great a great way to come after the extinction level event two album because when I did that album we released it in the middle of the pandemic that came 2020 October so you know you we was speaking directly to the [ __ ] that was going on and [ __ ] [ __ ] was frustrated you know what I'm saying we looking at the [ __ ] you was fighting for with George Floyd crazy and we looking at the the the riots and the [ __ ] protests and you know just the divide with the whole [ __ ] with them you can't be around [ __ ] if you ain't got a mask you can't be around [ __ ] if you ain't got a vaccine shot it's like this [ __ ] just felt like segregation again but once we got back outside and [ __ ] just was really appreciative of some [ __ ] that you take for granted them little civil liberties that [ __ ] really don't think could ever disappear in two seconds you got to really see the joy and and in in addition to that for me I think like I'm just at a place in my life where not only am I excited that I'm still passionate and still love this [ __ ] and will still bust anybody ass who want smoke talk that [ __ ] but I'm enjoying doing this [ __ ] with my children yeah that's a different I'm saying that's the illst feeling in the planet for me because I remember rocking and missing so much [ __ ] you know when they was young cuz they couldn't hang out they was too small now they all grown they not only could hang out and [ __ ] they could actually participate because my kids they they get busy and they I got a son all of them into it not to cut you off all of them into it somehow some way yeah I got I got a son that produced that actually taught the youngest one how to rhyme cuz he was rhyming first so the one that rhymes on the song called Legacy on the album my my middle son taught him and then started to produce instead of being an MC my oldest son is the executive and by the way he he he really really made it his his business to understand finances so it's like he he ended up evolving in such an amazing way in that space that he works for Black Rock you know what I'm saying so my daughter plays I got a daughter that plays classical piano I got a daughter that sings I got a son that rhyme my youngest son he the only one that ain't really too much into the music [ __ ] he he trying to be like y'all y'all his Heroes nice with ball and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying you got six six yeah yeah I got six that's a lot you got wuang Clan out here word right I got one in in a six-man you know what I mean yeah I got one um how do you feel like you're what what has been the what's the process been like from the first to the to the latest as far as in the studio thought process understand you have to continue to evolve to stay relevant you've been in this game 30 plus you know what I mean and still listen to still respected thank you how has your process evolved um each time you've gone in and to where you are now I think for like the first four albums especially because they were so conceptually driven all all of the albums are conceptually driven like I I was a and still I'm always like I was raised and not take [ __ ] on face value so I'm I'm I'm I'm from the the era of when it was cool to be smart [ __ ] and the 5% nation of the Gods and Earths was very present Zulu nation was very present yes and you know groups like Public Enemy and day and tribe and Poor Righteous Teachers and x-clan was the [ __ ] yeah not just culturally but in the club too right so I'm from that [ __ ] so for me you know reading between the lines and and understanding [ __ ] that they don't show you was the [ __ ] that we dug deeper than want to get the information on so approaching [ __ ] creatively which is why the albums was called the coming and when disaster strikes and EXT iction level event all of this [ __ ] that sounding like end of the world [ __ ] my process took a lot of research and a lot of writing pen to paper you know what I'm saying As Time passed but I always balanced it with making sure that I gave you some some some some just straight heat like it was always a good balance of Science and and heat but for me it's obviously easier to do the heat [ __ ] because it ain't so deep research-wise the the evolution from then to now for me is the writing stopped you know what I'm saying like the time that it would take for me to put what I'm GNA say anyway on the microphone and then put it on the paper I just say it because if I got to say it anyway to write the [ __ ] you might as well just say it and tell an engineer to press record and you capturing the [ __ ] that you going to write on paper anyway plus I used to get annoyed like a [ __ ] at if I would write a a certain way and I get to like if it's a 16 Bar verse I get to like the 14th bar and I ain't saying the rhyme over and over I might have forgot the rhyme pattern flow wise that I had for the fourth bar and be mad as a [ __ ] that I didn't just say it you know what I'm saying so now I got to try to remember how I concocted the flow so that the [ __ ] just would fall in the pocket of the beat the way that I initially penned it so now I just go in a studio now and I'll sit here just like this I'm not standing in the mic Booth no more getting too old for all that [ __ ] I sit down now M and don't get it [ __ ] up ain't nothing wrong with my knees or my a my back everything you know my can't wait to twist I'm just Cozier than a [ __ ] at the stool it's like the crib now it don't feel like the workplace no more so that's another thing it's just having a a a a pleasurable experience when I go in there it's like if I feel like I'm overthinking that [ __ ] I ain't supposed to be recording that song No More I'll walk away from it and I'll revisit the [ __ ] the next day when I'm excited about it again so every song that I'm making now is just coming from a good energy space it's like what they call that [ __ ] the greatest catch or the Deadliest Catch yeah the TV show try to catch the crab and [ __ ] it's the same process I just ain't risking life in no [ __ ] ocean and possibly dying falling over in the water and drowning and not catching nothing but yeah I go on the studio and I throw my fishing that in the universe and if I catch a Vibe like a [ __ ] then that mean I caught the most crab that night right if I don't catch a Vibe I just take my ass back to the crib and you know I don't look at it as a loss because I go in there with nothing in my head anyway I let the music in the moment Inspire the vibe was uh was the s with you and the baby was that your first single off the album nah that was actually the third third okay cuz I seen the video was the first one was with be okay the second one was with Cory yeah and then the baby came with the day of the album release yeah the reason why I asked about that because you are a big influence on him when he the way he shoot his videos oh absolute a huge a huge influence did y'all ever talk about that and it's dope to see it's refreshing to see cuz it once you kind of stop it but to see him on the video together see how how you started it to where it is now it was beautiful to see thank you so much I I love that it's three generations on the song yeah you know what I'm saying and and and tping you know he he definitely was inspired by my work as well and we've all talked about it because they inspire me too you know what I'm saying like the reason why I [ __ ] with what they do is because they inspire me to keep my blade sharp because I can't accept none of them busting my ass on no record you feel what I'm saying so it's like I'm a huge fan of what they do I love how hard they work I love how consistent they are and they feel like we from the same tribe you know what I'm saying they feel like kin to me you know what I mean so one day the baby was actually I think looking at some videos in mine on the computer and he just hit me in the DM and he was showing me [ __ ] that he was looking at that was my videos and was he just sent me a message and was was like yo bro you one of the biggest Inspirations ever to me when it come to this visual [ __ ] you set the standard thank you so much man and and I I just felt like you know for me when when it was my turn to finally get the shot I just didn't want to I ain't want to be one of those dudes that um the era influenced us like you had to be different from the next [ __ ] you wasn't allowed to bite somebody else [ __ ] look like somebody else El [ __ ] sound like somebody else [ __ ] and and you know when I was younger I was a cartoon fanatic so the animations and [ __ ] and I would watch whether it was Tom and Jerry or some Woody wood peka [ __ ] or Bugs Bunny or whatever the [ __ ] Transformers Voltron I'm looking at all this [ __ ] and I'm like yo if I was one of them [ __ ] how would I do it then I get in front of that camera and I would create my way of doing what whatever I felt if I had the opportunity to do it when I was watching they [ __ ] what would I do and that's how the videos came like put your hands on my ask can see I'm looking at the the the Coming to America [ __ ] I'm like if I was Eddie Murphy I'd do it like this Lethal Weapon and [ __ ] we did the dangerous video I paint my face like the white dude like what's his name again uh gibon like if I was this [ __ ] this is the way I would do it the Janet Jackson video terminated too with the liquid robot if I was that [ __ ] this is the way I would do it so this is how the ideas would come I'm just a big movie and TV buff I I'm I'm I'm inspired a lot by other [ __ ] that's happening in entertainment and I think that's the beauty of the art like it we all should be able to inspire each other if you contributing great [ __ ] you rap like you rapping to for a score of a movie thank you bro that's that's because like when when your videos when you you make your videos it seem like the way you rapping you rapping like to to put it into Vision you know saying for people to see it like everything you write is for a video thank you bro and I try to do it that way because I want you to see what I'm saying even if I don't get a chance to shoot a visual for it yeah we can't shoot a video for every song especially the way my [ __ ] was costing you what I was breaking the [ __ ] back every time we shot some [ __ ] so was like you know for the [ __ ] that I can't get around the shooting I want to make sure that even when I get to perform it on stage I could sell that [ __ ] visually in The illst Way live because I'm painting these pictures through the bars that I can actually deliver in my performance and you get the chance to see the [ __ ] whether I'm performing live or you get to see it from what you're hearing and I I really got inspired in that way by NWA you know what I'm saying like that's Straight Out of Compton and uh the [ __ ] for Life album when I listened to those albums those was the first albums where I actually thought I was watching a movie when I listened to it from the way they did their skits to the way Dre would mix [ __ ] and you know how in the movie Sometimes when you sitting in that [ __ ] and you hear some [ __ ] that happened on one speaker and then when the car drve past you hear this [ __ ] pan over to the next speaker like the [ __ ] Dre be doing that [ __ ] in his mixes at a time when [ __ ] wasn't doing it so I just thought this [ __ ] was on some real um um what's this dude that be he scores movies and he does I forget his Hans Zimmer first guess Hans [ __ ] Zimmer Dre is that to me inop we GNA talk about that later word so yeah I I try to create that and paint that picture for the people so they just get to enjoy I just want to make sure that the [ __ ] ain't being done in vain I'm not one of them [ __ ] where I'm just making it for me I could do this [ __ ] and sit in the crib and play Rewind all [ __ ] day and listen to it myself if I'm just making it for me I'm making it for the planet I want to affect [ __ ] in the whole world with the [ __ ] that I might catch a blunt munchie behind over bowl of cereal that this idea right here that was inspired by this blunt munchie [ __ ] the whole planet up shook the world you know what I'm saying your uh your your style your energy your Tempo where did that come from the combination of it came from absolutely hip-hop you know hip-hop was the the the first art that I actually fell in love with I wanted to do everything in that [ __ ] I was was able to break dance I was nice at that I was nice at popping I was I was all right with the graffiti [ __ ] I was all right with the DJ [ __ ] and then when I was forced to rhyme circumstantially I think those circumstances forced me to become a dangerous [ __ ] lyrically and uh I think prior to the hip-hop [ __ ] which I'll get back to why circumstantially I was forced to rhyme but I think a lot of what I ended up in incorporating in my being an artist as a MC rep and Hiphop was dance hall culture in my Jamaican upbringing because before I was even starting to rhyme you know my family is Jamaican so in order for me to go outside or do [ __ ] you got to do certain things to earn your right to being able to go out the crib you got to clean your [ __ ] bedroom you got to spread your bed you got to you got to do your homework work you got to make sure all the little CHS and [ __ ] in the crib is done and the way that I would pass the time doing [ __ ] like that was always listening to the music that my moms and my pops had in the crib and the crib they used to always have the illst collection of Jamaican music or R&B [ __ ] the only American [ __ ] you probably find on the crib was Kenny Rogers Michael Jackson and [ __ ] maybe some jazz [ __ ] right other than that everything was Bob Marley and Dennis Brown and big Youth and and Michigan and smiley and like these is all like legendary Whalers the Whalers the the the these is legendary Jamaican reggae artists I'm listening to this [ __ ] left and right while I'm trying to do the [ __ ] that I needed to do so I could go outside and [ __ ] with the homies so between that and then as I got older and I started to watch like this the sound clashes in dance halls which was like battles right and you would see shabar ranks and superat and they had a dude named um Papasan and another dude named Lieutenant stitchy them two was actually the first dudes I ever really heard due to speed rap [ __ ] this was in ' 86 they had a battle that this [ __ ] called sting and these [ __ ] was going so crazy with the speed rapor that's where I first seen it and tried it what year was this this was 1986 like you could Google it right now papan versus Lieutenant stitchy actually there's a artist that's out right now that works very closely with cool and Dre hitmaker his name is Bean that's Papa Son's son and he's nice you know what I'm saying but Papa son and Lieutenant stitchy was the first two that I ever seen speed rap 96 I ended up trying that [ __ ] in 90 three on the second leaders album on a song called daily Remer and that's the first time I ever did a speed rap is that the official ter speed I don't know if that was the term I don't remember calling it speed rap but it wasn't called no regular rap [ __ ] neither you know what I'm saying it was no name for was no regular it wasn't no real name for it was just could you do this yeah and I was getting busy but I wasn't at the level that I eventually evolved into now but um it was really just a combination of the dance whole sh because when you would watch a shaba during those days in the 80s this is straight Reaganomics ER all the crack being sold everywhere in the hood and you would see these [ __ ] on these DVDs or these V video tapes and we would cut school and go to these hookie parties and we would go and see the [ __ ] Bootleggers that was selling these shits on the street in East Flatbush Brooklyn and we would get these shits we get out little 20 bag of chocolate tow weed [ __ ] is rolling their [ __ ] up in the the slowest burning cigar and you [ __ ] in the crib and we at the hookie parties and [ __ ] around with the homies we [ __ ] around with the chicks we watching these shits on the videotape we smoking everybody bugging you would see these dudes perform they kicking their feet all over the place they throwing their hands all over the place they wearing mad color [ __ ] custom linen [ __ ] big jewelry hanging down to their shin bone so all of that [ __ ] that you see Slick Rick doing come from his Jamaican upbringing even though he was born in England Slick Rick mom's is Jamaican my mother and my father's Jamaican a lot of my family live in England too but that's that Jamaican [ __ ] that's that dance hle [ __ ] cool herk was a Jamaican is a Jamaican excuse me you know what I'm saying so I think that the the the the the the the dance hall culture and Hip-Hop is kind of like brothers in a sense but yeah this the hip-hop [ __ ] is what gave birth to Buster Rhymes and I Incorporated everything else that made me who I am culturally and morally and principally and integrity based into the [ __ ] that I did and I just always wanted to [ __ ] have fun and give people that feel good energy so I was always known for the wild out because I was the same way at the hookie party I was the same way in school I was the same way on the Block when we was hustling with the homies I was the same way all the time make [ __ ] laugh I always every every every gangster movie but they was Scarface of Good Fellas one of the most dangerous [ __ ] was the [ __ ] that made you laugh Joe pesy made [ __ ] laugh he was a loose [ __ ] Cannon Scarface he made you laugh yeah come here b b bicin t your ass up though so you know I was always intrigued by the gangster that had a sense of humor you know what I'm saying and I was around a lot of [ __ ] that was doing [ __ ] that other people might have classified or categorized as terrorism but those was the same dudes that raised us those was the same dudes that taught us Integrity they taught us respect when the parents got off the school bus I mean the the the the public transportation whether it was the b35 on Church a in Troy or was you know the subway you see moms you know walking up the block with the shopping bags and you blowing treat [ __ ] put your weed out homie put the cigarette out homie and don't first when she walked past us you better help her with her shopping bags too and if you don't we going to [ __ ] you up when she when we take upstairs and we come back outside so that [ __ ] was important like they it was crazy to many but it was very civilized to us and they was the same dudes that yeah if they a have nothing better to offer they was gonna gu you while you was doing your dirt too but at the end of the day if they seen that you had potential to do some good [ __ ] the [ __ ] will be encouraging you to go over there and do your good [ __ ] stay away from this [ __ ] because you might be the one to save the rest of our asses as you get it you know what I'm saying but all of that [ __ ] combined is what made the Buster RS energy that the people ended up getting and continues to receive all right High School you cross big Jay-Z special talk about that High School experience all them Legends in in one vicinity man it was two different schools yeah me special ed and Chip Fu from fikin we was in a school called Tien High School in East Flatbush Brooklyn Me Biggie and Jay-Z went to George Weston House Technical and Vocational High School that was downtown Brooklyn I went to tillen after Weston house so my mom's I was getting in trouble when I was 11 and 12 in Brooklyn so she decided to take me to Long Island when I got to Long Island that's when I met leaders of the new school by the time I turned 15 my mother wanted to move to Florida I ain't want to go so my moms and my pops had a divorce my pop state in Brooklyn I moved back to my father's crib when I moved back to my father's crib when my father lived was in the school district where Tien was but because my father is a licensed electrical contractor he wanted me to go to a trade school so he ended up finagling it so I could go to George westenhouse Technical and Vocational High School because it was a trade school and he wanted me to learn his trade he wasn't supportive of the rap [ __ ] at the time cuz you know there old Jamaican father you know some [ __ ] that rap [ __ ] a no future in that you going to learn this trade and I'm as I'm the oldest of the two kids that he had me and my younger brother but he was in his head you know I guess feeling like he's doing the thing that's that worked for him it it provided stability for him to provide for the family and he know this so if I learn it whether I like it or not at least I got some [ __ ] to fall back on if whatever else I'm trying to do don't work I ain't appreciate that [ __ ] till later on you feel me so that led to a lot of conflict with me and my pops while I'm in school at Weston House big wasn't rhyen in school but he was ryen dangerous [ __ ] he just wasn't doing it in school for [ __ ] to know what was going on biggie was bubbling a little a little weed in school HOV we knew he was rhyming because he was already putting joints out with the originat and um everybody was getting to their little hustle money remember it's the 80s so it's romics ever so we was all get to that you know what I'm saying and um you know again one day me and HOV I don't know how it got put together but somebody mentioned battle on some speed WAP [ __ ] I'm Gass thinking that I could [ __ ] with a little bit cuz I'm seeing this Pap aan and this Lieutenant stitchy [ __ ] and I'm already practicing this [ __ ] a little bit in the crib but I wasn't really ready to display it but again I still wasn't um I wasn't concerned with none of that I was with just whatever smokers so me and ho we go we do our battle thing and I and I took the L that day that moment is what turned me into the [ __ ] that nobody don't want it with now m M hope don't want to give me no rematch not on that no but but HOV was always just he was always a fly [ __ ] in school like he he he from the jeury game to the close he was always flying he was always smart past his classes he wasn't [ __ ] around and you know he got to the bread even though he was on his job with his school [ __ ] M biggie same [ __ ] everybody was on their [ __ ] I ended up dropping out of school because my opportunity came I was 17 and my mom's came back from Florida because she heard what I was doing in the street and she didn't want it to be a guilt that she felt she was living with if something happened to me because she bounced and let me stay you know that Mother's maternal Instinct [ __ ] you know what I'm saying so she ended up coming back and I moved back to Long Island but before I moved back to Long Island I went to Tien and I got with special ed and Chip Fu special ed was the first one to put the records out though and special ed was that that fly [ __ ] I got it Matt bar looking straight up straight up Matt bar look at that to bring it up red skin Matthew Ed and and and and he and he had chck was Ona and he got busy with his pen and he had the most legendary producer at the time which was Hitman howy T like you couldn't [ __ ] with howy t howy t was doing everything you TFO [ __ ] chub Rock [ __ ] real Rock sand [ __ ] it was just everything that was scorching was howy T and special ed he was the youngest in charge at the time and it was just incredible ible to be around all of it because these these [ __ ] that was getting it h and special ed HOV wasn't doing solo [ __ ] yet you know he was rocking with jazzo and with The originat Originators when spe when special ed came with his solo [ __ ] it really made this belief and this dream that much more tangible to me CU I wanted that [ __ ] so [ __ ] bad I was a little [ __ ] I was staying at this babysitter when my mom used to work nights her name was Aunt Mitzy she had a son named Alfonso this [ __ ] was one of the ell graffiti artist ever so in the night he would go and bomb the subway but I would watch him prepare in the crib before he would leave so [ __ ] would get these like shoe remember the the roll on the the shoe polishes that you would shake and it had the brush on it you wipe it on yeah wipe it on your your church sneak shoes and [ __ ] before you go to church this [ __ ] and remember when you used to ride on the Subways and used to see the tags on the Subways with the thick magic markers and the [ __ ] with drip and dry with the drip so he created those some shoe polish bottles where he would take a chalkboard eraser and you know in a chalkboard eraser got like five strips of the felt for you to erase the chalk he was rip a strip of that [ __ ] off and bend it [ __ ] squeeze that [ __ ] take the brush off the shoe polish he squeeze it in the [ __ ] shoe shoe polish put the top back on Shake it use the shoe polish as the ink and then he had the that's how he made the fat tip magic marker I'm watching this [ __ ] do that this is hip hop in front of me so I'm watching them doing this [ __ ] and back then they had this radio station called whbi and on whbi it was Africa Islam from the Zulu Nation Red Alert was spin on there the Supreme Team who made Buffalo G was on that [ __ ] and this [ __ ] would come on from like two to 5: in the morning so a lot of [ __ ] ain't know that station was coming on at that time so I'm so hyped to see what fanso would come back with storywise and picture-wise because they used to take pictures of the [ __ ] that they was doing I would stay up and I would make my pause tapes sometimes they would play their battles with the coldrush brothers against the Furious 5 or the cold Crush against the forsome se's Kumo D battle against Bizzy B and these battles was being played live from the actual battle themselves so you would hear the crowd in the background and the whole [ __ ] you know I was too young to be in the street hustle and [ __ ] cuz at the time you know I'm like [ __ ] n 10 years old I'm with the babysit or whatever but still I want to come to school with the Pumas and the Adidas on my [ __ ] I'm lying when I make the pause tape and when I played this [ __ ] in school for [ __ ] [ __ ] would be like yo how you get that [ __ ] I was dead M I was theread I was theread [ __ ] my cousin snuck me in there son you want a copy $5 and I would sell this and I hustle these tapes that I was making from this underground station until I had enough Puma and Adidas money and that's how I kind to school on my fresh [ __ ] that's that was the start of my Hustler mentality but you know going to school with with big and and ho and going to school with with chip Fu and special ed that [ __ ] was really dope for me because I was able to witness firsthand that under 18 [ __ ] was getting to that bag doing it and driving their own fly [ __ ] to school and Jed up in school and [ __ ] moms had to sign their deals bro because they wasn't 18 you know what I'm saying so that's what it was for me it was just being fortunate enough to be at the right place at the right time and around the right [ __ ] sound like a magical time word good old days early 90s would you say the Afric the African Medallion movement around that time how do you feel the U the state of Hip Hop got like that and do you think it ever get back to that point where it's so much unity in hip-hop like it was around that time I don't know it's hard to say huh yeah it's definitely hard to say and and I'm G be honest with you I don't know if it'll ever get back to that unless they allow the success to be lead as an example in that way that will attract [ __ ] to follow the win cuz [ __ ] is only attracted to the win so if acting like a Savage is winning [ __ ] is going to follow being Savage because they feel like that's the way they gonna win like I was saying earlier I come from the era when it was cool to be smart you know what I'm saying so having knowledge of self was important that's why you had bran newbi and and x-clan and L Kim shabaz and poor righteous teachers and Public Enemy and you would hear all of these records on the radio it was so cool to be smooth to to be smart that [ __ ] isce Cube went from being a gangster to becoming a Muslim you know what I'm saying and even though he always repped his gangster [ __ ] even with that you know he he he he felt comfortable enough repping something that that was a direct exemplification of being a civilized [ __ ] man and I you know I think Public Enemy and they success had a lot to do with that and Rakim you know what I'm saying and wuang and you know the the presence of dudes with knowledge itself was super strong and I think that in addition to that [ __ ] being cool it was cool because it was also success [ __ ] was able to put platinum records on the wall being smart [ __ ] was able to get rich being smart Kan King Asiatic you know what I'm saying like and [ __ ] wasn't oding on drugs and going to jail right whole different time and we wasn't beefing a lot of [ __ ] at the time we was just you Ain really hear about no beef and if there was a beef [ __ ] addressed each other because you Ain have no choice it wasn't no pop [ __ ] through the Graham cuz it wasn't no social media you had to be a little more mindful of what you said because you can run into a [ __ ] get your [ __ ] broke for real you know I'm saying the accountability was serious so it was it was you thought before you spoke nowadays obviously the difference is you don't got to earn your right to passage to be heard we had to earn that [ __ ] back in the day and I'm not saying that it was better then cuz there's a lot of [ __ ] that's happening now that you can benefit from in a way that we wasn't able to back then too you know I mean I just think that the evolution and being in tune with the evolution and taking the best from the evolution and being Swift and changeable and in order in order to stay remain is what we ultimately got to do because if you stay in the same way in any situation or you get stagnant or stuck you ain't growing no more anything that ain't growing no more is dead y so we got to take the good with the bad you know I do think it can happen I just think we had another Lauren Hill moment yeah where the [ __ ] she did and how successful it was doing what she did and it wasn't a bunch of none of the [ __ ] that we see that's happening and I ain't knocking nobody but if we had another one of those moments right now that could do the numbers that she did now without having to do the [ __ ] that girls feel like they got to do now in order to get them numbers right you see a trillion of them starting to follow her ass because what she did was so magical and it was done without having to exploit [ __ ] that could eventually be used against you with time so I don't rule out the possibility and nothing you know what I'm saying I just know all you could do is your part and you hope your part is a significant enough contribution and influence to make a couple [ __ ] want to do it the way you did it but still make it their own right you know what I'm saying who are your rap influences I know you said you was big fans of LL and Slick Rick LL was the dude that made me write my first rhyme circumstantially I was getting disrespected by the C Brown from leaders of the new school when I first started the rhyme energy I went I went to Junior High School in Long Island when we first moved out there and you know a lot of parents felt like going to the Long Island side of suburbs was the way to get your kids out of the troublemaking Mischief they was Finding for themselves in a hood whether they was from Bronx Queen Staten Allen Brooklyn wherever they slid us all along Island you [ __ ] and got Long Island you ended up being around a bunch of the same [ __ ] from the hood anyway so you ain't escaped [ __ ] can't escape it you ain't escaped [ __ ] so you out there and brown you know when a new kid from the hood came to the island at the time like there would be little Rumblings about the new [ __ ] from the hood so at the time I was getting the rumbling and brown obviously he ain't want the attention to be taken from him he's he a queen's kid I'm a br Brooklyn kid he start um rhing in the schoolyard after school one day I want to be in the circle of hip-hop [ __ ] so I go over there I started beat boxing for him [ __ ] started dishing me while I was beatboxing oh wow wow he was on your beat talking [ __ ] about was disrespecting the [ __ ] out me son I'm doing the beat for this [ __ ] and he blacking on me because he want to make sure that people see the new Kid From Brooklyn ain't that dude I'm that dude I ain't had no raps for his ass that day and I'm [ __ ] up because I'm like damn do I stop doing the beat while this [ __ ] dissing me smack [ __ ] out of this [ __ ] or do I just keep doing the beat and not be on no party poop and [ __ ] so I kept doing the beat I kept it cool I looked at him after he tried to dab me talking about he was just joking nah my [ __ ] I'mma see theor mhm went home I started listening to Mad LL [ __ ] and then I wrote this rhyme called pul rate and when I wrote that rhyme that rhyme was the rhyme I came back the next day and I bust his ass immediately he wanted to be in the same crew hey yo my [ __ ] you want to get down with me yo yo son yo so we ended up forming a crew there was a third MC by the name of mystery that was down with us this was before Dinko mystery was in the street he was hustling about two years passed by we trying to figure out how to get on he ain't had a patience he like [ __ ] this rap [ __ ] Brown found Dinko brought Dinko to me I like what Dinko was doing and we ended up agreeing to just become the group Milo which is the DJ is my mother's sister's son so he's my first Blood cousin brought him in the be the DJ but eventually he wanted the r too so it it it became to four of us and um I think we didn't start showcasing Milo kadam until we got to scenario remix and then when we got that look it was like [ __ ] that I ain't turning back I like this shine of being in the front as opposed to being in the back with the two turntables but yeah that's that's that that that LL influence was important Slick Rick was one of my greatest influences Rock Kim EPMD Big Daddy Kane and I say that oh Chu D is my my greatest influence stage name he gave me my name he gave us the name leaders of the new school he taught me everything like he's he's like my big brother and my father when they came to this rap [ __ ] so I was raised by some of the most incredible [ __ ] about to say and they used to let me come pull up on them like I could come to their crib and ask questions ride around in their cars and ask questions come to their Studio sessions and ask questions big so they really really embraced and we was just always super respectful and humbled and grateful to be around them and we showed them that you know what I'm saying and I mean any other Act was Blasphemous you try to disrespect a grandm [ __ ] a grandmas and this [ __ ] you you was playing yourself so you know again being fortunate enough to be around the right places right time right people never even knowing you was ever going to meet these [ __ ] when they was just your inspiration right then you meet them and sometimes you know they say don't meet some of your Heroes cuz they might let you down and [ __ ] not one of them ever let me down bro you know what I'm saying they gave me the nourishment I needed to just become greater and greater and to this day I big them up I pull up on them I'm finding something that we could do together and that [ __ ] ain't never GNA stop paying it forward yeah Tribe Called Quest take us through a studio session with you and the brothers okay so he said okay I got many of them [ __ ] stories so some of the funniest stories would be like say you go to the studio with Q-Tip this is the [ __ ] that I in peace F dog rest in peace all the time because F yes sir F dog it was kind of like you know like when you would ask your moms if you could do some [ __ ] and she say no and then you go ask your your father and he'd say yes and then you you act like you ain't never had a conversation with your mom at all about it and then that [ __ ] might get them to in a little argument I used to play F and Q-Tip like that against so I ended up on Mad tribe songs because I don't think people realize how important Q-tip is on the East Coast Q-tip is like the East Coast Dr Dre m so many artists and people came through Q-tip that if we was all signed to qtip qtip would be the East Coast Dr Dre financially yeah because all of us me most deaf D'Angelo tribe so many different things came through Q-tip and he just never was interested in signing nobody which was admirable at the time I think that [ __ ] crazy than a [ __ ] should have signed everybody because he he he he we all grew through his his tutelage and his his his knowledge for music his Productions ability so every time you go to a tribe session qtip got the illst Beats on the board him and Ali sh if he didn't like the beat and at the time [ __ ] is recording on 2in tape reels right it ain't like Pro Tools where you know you could you could record 99 tracks worth of [ __ ] and not erase nothing you get your 24 tracks worth of [ __ ] you record that [ __ ] on the 2inch tape Rael and if you don't keep that [ __ ] in the right temperature the tape could get brittle and and and be destroyed right this [ __ ] Q-tip would record the illst beat and if he didn't like it he would erased the [ __ ] off the Reel [ __ ] one man trash is another [ __ ] man treasure if you ain't like it give the [ __ ] to bus RS B let me [ __ ] the beat up but he wouldn't he wouldn't he wouldn't listen to that so every time leaders had an argument because after scenario I became like one of the most sought after dudes for features everybody wanted that dungeon dragon [ __ ] on they songs so it started to create a little conflict internally with Leaders with me and brown dingo was always fine with it and the understanding amongst the crew was yo no matter who get a feature get on that [ __ ] record shout the crew LS and then go pop your [ __ ] the more the more features we do between all three of us the more we promo in the the CLI overall the team but everybody as much as they said cool to that wasn't really wasn't that wasn't cool to them if they wasn't getting the same amount of feature looks that I was getting long story short every time we get into an argument I would pume to [ __ ] tribe session but I would always hit Q-tip so a couple times the [ __ ] Q-tip be like n this a private session I'd be like yeah all right think F left right down the block from Q-tip I go to F CB f life what up brother what you doing going to the studio all right I'm coming with you come on bus I ain't telling [ __ ] nothing about what happened with me and qtip I get right in the studio session [ __ ] Q-tip see me [ __ ] just look at me with the frown [ __ ] turn on the beat I'm here what we gonna do Turn the Beat on and then I would end up on [ __ ] oh my God uh uh scenario well we was all supposed to be there for scenario but oh my God a song called one two [ __ ] ill Vibe for my first solo album a song called uh uh uh ah man is a song on the ramen reason soundtrack that we did and we we rhymed over a sample that was done by this producer named Cash Money from Philly and he chopped up [ __ ] music from Return of the Dragon Bruce Lee movie and me and qtip ROM on that but it's on the ramen reion soundtrack and forget the name of it but my point is I ended up on all of these records with tribe and collabs with me and Q-Tip because a lot of the times I was just trying to be where I was welcomed when I felt unwelcomed by my own crew you know what I'm saying and those Brothers always took me in and made me feel like I was a part of they they they crew like a little brother and they was never hesitant to let me get on and rock with them and I think it was also entertaining because I was in the studio going so [ __ ] crazy just to make sure that I showed my appreciation for them letting me get on [ __ ] that I would overdose the spaz out so I could over I on the spaz out because I wanted them to let me stay and then I wanted them to let me rock and then I wanted them to let me stay on the song and then I always wanted to feel like I was in they group because I was huge fans of tribe tribe probably was the first group that made me cry when I heard [ __ ] that was so [ __ ] dope that I wish that I did it and was mad because I ain't know if I would ever be able to come up with the [ __ ] that they was creating so I would want the [ __ ] so bad that I would sit there and listen to this [ __ ] and just start crying like I can't believe what the [ __ ] I'm hearing Tri probably the first group to do that to me Chuck D did that to me Public Enemy did that to me with Rebel Without a pause so you you ever heard of the the the the white boy group called young black teenagers you watch the house party movies right with kid and play right yes you remember the kid Cameron on the white boy with the with the dreads yes yes that's Jamal yeah yeah so you imagine that [ __ ] today just that name alone young black teenagers with the own group today right but see that's the crazy [ __ ] right Hank shakley and Chuck they was like mad scientists they would do [ __ ] that they knew was just gonna [ __ ] give create the old [ __ ] reaction but they had these group names on the wall on a bulletin board and they didn't have no group members to fill in the group names so like the they had [ __ ] son of Berserk and the hell raisers as one group and they had the logos for these [ __ ] because truck was ill I think he went to college for like animation and illustration or something so he drew these logos and came up with these Concepts Kings of pressure true mathematics in The Invisible Empire funky Frank in the street Force leaders of the new school did I say son of Berserk and the hell raises all right so these is all of these group names they had then they had these auditions so you come up there with your group and everybody start rocking and [ __ ] and they look at you it be a line of [ __ ] waiting to get on after they'll look at you and they'll be like you know what you fit funky Frank in the street for us your man you fit true mathematics in The Invisible Empire you fit son of Berserk y'all looking at each other like these [ __ ] is breaking us up and depending on how bad you wanted it you'll do it would determine whether or not you was going to do it we come up there yeah we was the destiny 3 MC's M Destiny 3 my name was Chill O ski out this [ __ ] name sound trash I know Chill O ski Chill O ski was my rap names son and the ill [ __ ] is at the time the three-part names was the [ __ ] you had LL Cool J you had Prince Monkey D from the Fat Boys you had kol Rock ski from The Fat Boys ski the three- part name Kumo D the three part names was cool human beatbox you know what I'm saying human beatbox my [ __ ] was [ __ ] up though chillos ski three-part name sounded trash chill ski so so so so we come up there as leaders of the new school well as the destiny 3M season we saw the name leaders of the new school and the logo had looked like Raiders of the Lost Arc so leaders was bent over like Raiders and then of the Lost Arc was of the new school and we saw that [ __ ] and the young black teenager dudes with the Jamal kid cam he came up there with DJ scribble and these two other white dudes I forget they name but we was all cool at the time they wanted the name leaders of the new school and when they tried that breakup [ __ ] like they wanted to put me with funky Frank in the street Force I was like that name don't even sound cool my [ __ ] and I'm not breaking up with the crew and the crew ain't breaking up and we all stood our ground so they respected it and it was Ill because Hank shakley was like the bad cop and Chuck D was the good cop and that's how they moved on some bomb squad [ __ ] Eric Vietnam shadler was one of the main producers Keith Shockley was one of the main producers so he said y'all want that name both groups wanted the name so here come Hank shakle with his bad cop [ __ ] okay yall [ __ ] want the name and y'all need to go home and write a song called [ __ ] the old school what are you talking about we not dishing the Architects bro you heard what I said go home and write the record and whoever got the hottest record wins this name obviously we won record we won we got the hot [ __ ] record disrespecting all of the greats crying while we writing this [ __ ] emotionally [ __ ] up right and and and I don't know where that song is but I hope that [ __ ] don't never resurface cuz we violated everybody Flash Furious 5 Crash Crew cold Crush cool her Africa bamb we dissed everybody chill ski was spinning the block Chow ski was spinning every block yo but you know what man it was it was a testament to really just it was a testament to how bad we wanted it them dudes just was want they just really wanted to see how how much we was willing to go extremely hard to secure the win and they wanted to see how much we was willing to sacrifice and secure the win and with all of that being said Chuck D said yo that chillos ski name ain't the [ __ ] if you if you gonna be leaders of the new school you got to lead the new so you can't have no old ass sh the name my [ __ ] get that [ __ ] out of here [ __ ] came through because they used to always ask me to bust around too why don't you bust around for this [ __ ] because they used to love seeing the animation and the aggressive [ __ ] and [ __ ] Chuck D one day he's like yo you remind me of the football player named Buster RS used to play for the Minnesota Vikings in 1985 think he was a wide receiver and I was like word the [ __ ] brought the the the the card with the [ __ ] Athlete on the card and his name was Buster RS with a ER and I looked at that [ __ ] and I said this [ __ ] is L yo a real dude named buston rhs that played for the Minnesota Vikings so I took his exact name u s t e r met never met him then when time started to pass cuz I ain't like the name at first but I thought it was dope but I just was so much on my I changed from choki to Lord tahim because me being 5% that was my attribute as 5% but it wasn't nothing unique about it because they had so many other gods with their names as the MC name like Kim shabaz and King son and you know Lord Jamal from the brand newbi everybody had this you know so when Chuck said be bust the Rhymes he was like just try it if you don't like it you can go back to all of them names you got so so I gave it a shot and probably like a year or two of them bringing us to shows and letting us open up for them they had a lady named Jessica Rosen blown H Amanda [ __ ] Demi Amanda [ __ ] Demi is the widowed wife of Ted Demi who created YTV RS they used to run [ __ ] in the downtown area with the clubs and that's how we was able to perform as leaders of the new school and get the buzz going Dante Ross who was at Tommy Boy who signed De La Soul in him he saw us at a club in the Lower East Side called payday one time and he was leaving Tommy Boy to go to Electra and the [ __ ] was like y so incredible I want to sign y'all but all of that grooming in the two three years of being able to go out with chucking them and get that schooling and be able to ask questions and learn how to really perform all of that [ __ ] it was like the boot camp training that we needed before we started getting in these clubs and getting seen and all of that [ __ ] is what provided the opportunity to get the deal so Buster moms was born December 15th 1989 when I was 17 years old after being chill ski I ain't going to let you lay that one down break out you broke out solo career what was the process of your debut the debut album to coming and putting together wooa got you all in check talk about that so so I was scared to go solo I was super nice with doing the features and I why were you scared I was scared because I was never a solo MC I was always in a group I was responsible for my 16 bars and I was out the [ __ ] way you know what I'm saying when you got to do three 16s in the chorus for 12 to 14 records lot that [ __ ] is a weight and then you ain't got nobody to really bounce no ideas off of I'm used to having Brown and Dinko around I bounce the ideas off of have a [ __ ] tell me yo this [ __ ] dope that [ __ ] ain't it yo tweak these two three bars over here and who I did have those relationships with like a Q-tip or you know dayline them I I was they was busy so I didn't I I didn't have the same access to them that I would have with my my own crew the thing was though that forced me to figure it out was as the youngest member of the group I was the first one to have a child so I had to find my way to provide for my child so that's when I kind of started oding with the features and ring on everybody [ __ ] and I used the buzz from Scenario to sell myself and solicit myself to make sure that I ended up on Everybody's Records because I had to find verse money to keep taking care of my kids until I figured out what I was doing as a solo artist once I got to the solo artist opportunity I remember there's a skit after it's a party if you listen to the album sequence in its full form right and uh in the skit it's like you hear this band like just randomly playing the instruments like they find tuning instruments and I acknowledge that and then I do some little short ass freestyle that was the very first thing that I recorded for the first solo album and it happened like that because I was shooting Higher Learning movie at the time I get the call from Dante Ross and he told me because when they did the deal initially they signed us as individuals as well as a group so when we broke up we still was stuck at the label so he telling me that I'm getting a budget that was way more than what we got for each Leader's album and I ain't had to split that [ __ ] with nobody I was excited than a [ __ ] about that but I wasn't excited about the solo artist responsibility I called qtip he come to La [ __ ] with me and we going to Studio I think we went in like three days straight I couldn't come up with nothing I'm angry than a [ __ ] and then this this brother named Shard Smith Tumbling Dice he produced the one more chance remix for biggie um he produced doing it well for LL he produced woa got you on a check he produced dangerous for me as well the woa sample was played in a rampage session Rampage was working on a song and I think Rashad needed a a horn sample for this beat he ended up pulling out the G mcdermit [ __ ] which is the sample for the woa [ __ ] from the hair Broadway play soundtrack when he plays this [ __ ] I'm like [ __ ] keep that for me and [ __ ] crazy my [ __ ] he make the Bey Loop it I'm riding around in the whip first week pass I don't come up with nothing two three weeks pass I don't come up with nothing a whole month pass I don't come up with nothing two three months pass I don't come up with nothing four five six months pass I don't come up with nothing by the seventh month and I got sued by telling this story on Jay Leno I never cleared the sample and I think Sylvia Robinson's son he sued me cuz I told him myself trying to give credit so I'm already paying for it so you can tell it now so I can tell it again freely rest in peace to Silvia Robinson Son too cuz he passed away shortly after he was in the room with me while I was forced to make a deposition but in any event Red Alert was doing the old school at noon on Hot 97 he plays The Eighth Wonder record by the Sugar Hill Gang my neck woo ha got you on the check or let's scream or let's shout or let's turn this function now to keep keeping on I heard that [ __ ] I call Rashad I said I got it meet me in the studio tonight went to the studio made that [ __ ] the hook wrote the verses on the spot song done we put the [ __ ] out that [ __ ] went platinum in 6 weeks when I started to see the money from them shows and the money from them royalties and the publishing deals and all that [ __ ] I said I like this solo [ __ ] and I like the responsibility of a being a solo artist and if the [ __ ] takes seven months to write but pay like this [ __ ] it let's keep it going but you know once you taste a steak coming from canned food bro that [ __ ] taste bud and that pallet changed it's like my whole way of thinking started to change and you know I'm taking care of my family I'm watching baby mom's smile get bigger I'm watching my mom's smile get bigger and first thing I did with the success of that told my mom's quit a job and once she quit a job and help me run the rest of my [ __ ] that's probably the most rewarding feeling that I have because that's the first thing I did like before I bought myself jewelry and cars and all of that I took care of my mom's cuz she signed my deal when I was 17 I could have woke up one day and did some [ __ ] to piss her ass off it would have never been bust signature on that contract and then y'all would have never knew me and I'd have never been sitting here with all the smoke so big up to Mom does yeah that's dope uh what goes in obviously you spoke to you know your greatness across the board but obviously on features what goes into hopping on someone else's song and and your thought process because you have so many you know songs you hopped on that that you made magical not not this track uh that was he going going is saying yeah you going to go off but not on this one not on this one yeah for me it's always respectful competition number one but we are always battling just respectfully battling you know I'mma get on your record bro I'm G give you the biggest hug in a pound and we gonna joke and laugh before it's time to work during the work I'm coming for blood I don't want no friendship no don't talk to me nothing when the show is over with the bars in that Booth n we could be the best Kumbaya in the [ __ ] world after that but that's what it is on every song and that's what it's been every time and for me it's it's is I think it's what we all got this instinctually any click we move with y'all playing on a team who the [ __ ] want to be heard by you don't want to hear nobody talking about you the weakest link in no situation not on the team when you playing ball not in a beef if yall got to defend each other in a fight not in a [ __ ] nothing you you you you don't want to be classified as the weakest link and it's really those same instincts I think we all just culturally have been raised with you know what I'm saying I just apply that [ __ ] in every aspect of my life and when it come to these records and how good the game has been to me and these opportunities have been to me I don't play with it and another way of showing the most high and showing the person that gave me the opportunity to rock with him that I appreciate is by putting my best [ __ ] foot forward let's talk about some of your your your classic uh collabs I mean I'm thinking how well they did at the time but can you imagine this Tik Tock generation right now oh yeah oh it would have been stupid hell yeah and I ain't gonna front some of this Tik Tock generation Ain still got my [ __ ] definitely definitely you ticktockers very [ __ ] much it's still working still working what tell us a little bit about each we gonna try to run through these uh put your hands where my eyes can see I mean one of the coldest beats ever thank you K yeah big up to my man chameo D rest in peace chameo passed away a couple of years ago he made the beat with my brother Buddha and big up to my man Gerald Odum AKA fabri he brought the beat to the studio after they made it so that beat is one of those beats that was an evolution point for me because it's probably one of the first songs that y'all heard me on on my calm [ __ ] you know what I'm saying and I ended up ring on the record on some calm [ __ ] because I went to a diddy session one night at Daddy's house and back at the time Diddy told me he was like my [ __ ] why don't you just rhy on your calm voice my [ __ ] like [ __ ] don't want to do that like a dungeon dragon [ __ ] with you all the time on no song My [ __ ] [ __ ] don't want to do that my [ __ ] so just calm your voice talk to the chicks bro talk to them like talk on this beat it's that [ __ ] got room to breathe on it you ain't got to be don't always killing with the flow and kill them with your regular voice you got a good you got one of them James Earl voices when you talk in regular and I listen to him and Fat Joe was de Too Fat Joe was de in Fat Joe was chiming in and and pretty much telling me to do the same [ __ ] that was the record that set the tone for sure what's it going to be with the with the lovely Miss Janet Jackson again Buster Mom some on some calm [ __ ] I just combined it with the speed WAP but that song came about as a result of Janet touring for the Velvet Rope album that she did she was on Hot 97 with Angie Martinez at the time when Angie was there before she went to Power 105 and she was doing an interview with Angie and I'm driving from Long Island to the city and at the time I owned a Toyota Forerunner it was my second whip that I ever had it's 98 I also had a Benz and I didn't drive the Benz this particular day because I was in a rush and I had 20s on the Ben and I I was always running into a situation you hit a pothole that [ __ ] was the most annoying [ __ ] ever clean though so so so Angie asks Janet what rappers have she never worked with that she would like to work she said bust the rounds [ __ ] I almost crashed my [ __ ] I pulled over and I'm I'm on the Belt Parkway I pulled over and I immediately called Mona Scott Young from violator and I said Mona you need to get in touch with Janet now she's at high 97 she said she want to work with Buster [ __ ] Rhymes and tell her I got the perfect song for her and and I ain't have no song [Laughter] mhm so we had to find a song and a brother named Delight produced the record and he got a young lady I forget her name to write the hook pen the hook for Janet when I heard it I fell in love with the [ __ ] immediately because nothing had sounded like it at the time on the radio and it was something that it it it actually played into me being able to speed rap on it perfectly so I immediately got the record Mona got in touch with Janet sent it to Janet I didn't write the Rhymes yet we pick a we pick a she picks the studio session and it's somewhere in a different state from New York and we go to the studio and I research everything that Janet likes what type of flowers she like what type of candles she like what the fragrances is that she like and we dress the [ __ ] Studio up exactly with all of the [ __ ] that she likes her security came they Advanced their [ __ ] they walked around searched every [ __ ] room like they was screening and looking for [ __ ] fire Taps and bugs everywhere some president [ __ ] this was probably like 3 4 hours before she showed up and then when the queen showed up I gave her a nice brief greeting hugged her asked if she needed anything and left her with the track with all the vocals on it for her to sing them over and I bounced I ain't even want to be around her long enough to do some [ __ ] wrong I'm not [ __ ] this moment not even by accident right puming ain't nothing faster than pume my [ __ ] right [ __ ] about I got the [ __ ] up of there ain't nothing faster than P nothing faster than Pune yo I went in another room next door and I wrote all the verses and then I spit them then I came back and I let the engineer imported in a session we vibed listened to it a couple of times she was happy I was super bugging out couldn't believe this moment was real and then when it came video shoot time and that Terminator 2 movie came out and I saw that [ __ ] I said yeah this is all that liquidy make you wet [ __ ] wet dream all that talk call hype whs I said this is what we doing big bro called Sylvia rone I was scared to have that conversation because when hype sent the budget back that [ __ ] was $2.4 Million for that video damn most expensive hiph hop video ever shot to this day and that was in [ __ ] 988 yeah I was about say can you imagine that Terminator 2 million and and and [ __ ] and [ __ ] Titanic thep the the special effects company that did the Titanic movie was called digital domain they did the effects for for that video o overcharging [ __ ] cuz they won all them [ __ ] Oscars for the Titanic movie at that time so there was no negotiating with them you just got robbed I mean the finished product was phenomenal but it's so funny when you compare the prices to the [ __ ] that they charged me then to amazing [ __ ] that I'm able to do now of course times is different and technology advanced a lot but it was crazy when you did the research to find out what the [ __ ] they was charging you for why was they charging you like that later on not too long after neither I would say two three years ago I I just was starting to be really confused about why did I get charge like this and you know we was getting so much money we didn't even care man it was like [ __ ] a royalty you know we we we getting publishing deal money millions and we getting touring millions and we getting all type of other [ __ ] it was just like whatever but again that was a unbelievable moment and Janet by the time we got time to shoot the video all of that nervous [ __ ] was out the window because now I'm in front of the camera I got to make it look like that's my wife that wasn't that wasn't hard that wasn't hard at all easy word is b n but big up to Janet Jackson I going front 2023 was the first time that we got the per formed that record together together in in 25 years because last year was the 25th anniversary of that song and that album so thank you to Janet for bringing me out at the Garden where I was able to celebrate 25 year anniversary of that song in my backyard in New York and I tried to recreate the whole environment and the studio cuz after the song I brought all of them flowers in the same [ __ ] that we had in the stool that's dope on stage to give her her flowers yeah I love it uh I know what you want with flip mode and in in my childhood Crush Mariah how was that experience yo I ain't going to lie that [ __ ] was an incredible [ __ ] experience too yo I'm going tell you what was what was bug me and spliff was on a tour bus and I'm I'm not I wasn't I'm still not the biggest fan of flying but I really was [ __ ] not [ __ ] with the flying and I had built the tour bus in 2003 when I first went on tour with 50 and Jay-Z for the rock the Mike tour and I built a brand new bus from the frame and we was driving back and forth from New York to LA so much that's a bush I think I think I think I put like 1.7 million miles on this engine and I had a man that was doing the maintenance and he was our tour bus it was a couple Nam Cisco Kid and Marty kid and they from Florida well they from Ohio but they lived in Florida Cisco rest in peace but he upkept the maintenance on that bus so phenomenally that we never had to put a new engine in that [ __ ] never at [ __ ] Cisco was a genius with them buses that bus probably a Fred S uh toyard right now probably is Miles yeah that sh 1.7 million miles that's crazy but but but the crazy [ __ ] is we riding on a bus I got a beat tape from Rick rock big up the Rick Rock from the bay and he sends me this beat tape and we we vibing on the bus and we drinking and [ __ ] and we going cross country and the beat came on and we just me and spliff bugging out and I think I came up with the melody first and then the words came later but when I sent it to Mariah she was with it off the off the off rip the crazy part though is she goes on these vocal rest periods where she don't talk at all so that you know she don't [ __ ] with her vocal cords because over a period of time we it's it's it's it's not abnormal for us artists to get pups on your vocal cords I had to have a vocal cord surgery to remove pups because the pups started to get so big it could block your your breathing passage and at the time when that [ __ ] was happening to me combined with being overweight when I was super out of shape that [ __ ] had blocked 90% of my breathing passage so I had to get an emergency surgery and she obviously does the smart things so she can avoid that with the vocal rest so at the time when we needed to record the record we couldn't speak to her on the phone could only text her cuz she was only going to communicate by writing so we had to wait until she did her vocal rest which took like three four weeks or some [ __ ] and when that was done then she was ready to sing and when she sang that [ __ ] she bodied it like super quick sent it right back put flip mode on it because at the time I was actually setting up a flip Mode album that we was putting out because we was on J Records Cloud Davis label at the time um and I had did a label deal and had a a project that was almost done with flip mode but after this album which came out in 2003 I had did a two album deal at J record so I put out the Genesis in 2001 which karier was on and then yeah then this this song was on the 2003 album 2003 when my deal term was up after 6 months of the release I ended up signing aftermath with Dre and got a label deal over there too so when I left J recers they deaded the flip Mode album but I was using the Mariah song as a like a single or setup flip mode [ __ ] so we could just bust ass and um that's pretty much how that played out but long story short Maria really she always pretty much delivers for us whenever we we need her she's there whenever she needs me I'm there she just actually brought us out to rock the garden with her as well for her Christmas you know how she turn it up and give it up for Christmas every year and [ __ ] but she did she did a couple of shows at the Garden and brought me out to to [ __ ] it up with her and I had a great time Mariah We Love You Queen yeah absolutely shout out Mariah break your neck Grammy nominated uh live performance is incredible uh talk to us about that before I got to aftermath I was shooting shaf in Canada and Dre was shooting Training Day at the same time was that up there too or just shooting at the same time we was both shooting at the the movies wasn't out yet I was shooting sha he was shooting training day we had a schedule where the off days had coincided with each other and I think at the Grammys right before those movie productions was green lit I seen Dre Dre was with a brother named Mike Lynn at the time Mike Lynn was helping Dre you know run with his aftermath [ __ ] on the executive level and just going out there and working with a lot of producers and bringing them to the table so that you know Dre could scour through the producers to see who was worth bringing on his production team Mike Lynn was with Dre when I had my mom's at this particular Grammys with me as we was leaving seen Dre and Mike Lynn my mom saw Dre first and I wanted to introduce my moms to Dre and then I also wanted to Big up Dre Mike ly he kind of made the whole Get Together official I tell Mike Lyn and at the time I was leaving like I was free agent from J recers and I'm like yo Dre whatever we got to do to get in the studio together I'm going make my end of the bargain happen I don't give a [ __ ] where we got to go Dre said cool so I'm in Canada I'm shooting sha I had these off days I called Dre to see what his availability was he had off days I get to uh La he said I got two days I said how many songs could we do he said as many as you could record wow I said what I get the [ __ ] la I go to the studio I slept in that [ __ ] two days no shower no nothing like when [ __ ] was hustling back in the romics era [ __ ] right in a drug spot [ __ ] you ain't leaving no money unaccounted for y I stayed in that [ __ ] Studio he put up beat after beat after beat after beat out of five songs in two days three of them ended up on the Genesis album one called holla one call Bounce and break your neck truth Hurtz is doing the background vocals on breaking neck and when we did the record Dre said this is your single he chose it he knew and um it's one of the biggest records that I made to date just sales wise and everything at radio and everything like Dre always you know his ear is is is he got bionic ears like he hears [ __ ] different from every regular human in the planet and then everybody falls in line with the way he hears the [ __ ] because I mean as we all know when you hear a Dre finished product that [ __ ] got a crystal Sparkle on that [ __ ] it's just so it's so it just sounds different from anybody else's finished product so Dre is my favorite producer in the planet along with Jay Diller rest in peace to Jay Diller and Q-Tip oh can't forget DJ scratch too my four favorite producers in the planet I got other producers that I love but those is my four favorite oh can't forget the big up knots too Nots the ruler from Virginia Swiss beats TI forel I can't stop this I can't stop this you know what I'm saying last but not least look at me now Chris Brown Wayne um how that track come together because that's different Generations I'm going to tell you how that [ __ ] came together for me I'm in Platinum Studios which is Jerry Wonder studio in Midtown Manhattan I was working with the artist at the time who we had did a remix for his song and on the remix there's a few MC's and Nelly was one of them on the song I think meth man was on it uh Cameron was on it so Nelly coincidentally was working in a room next door to the room that I was in we on the same floor so when I found out Nelly was over there I go over there I dap him up I say yo we mixing the record so you should come over and improve how your vocal sound before we print the mix he goes cool he come over to the room he hear a verse he happy with it he go back in his room when he go back in his room The Look at me now be is playing but I couldn't hear it the way you obviously going to hear it when you walk in the room but the 808 is so heavy on that beat this [ __ ] was rumbling through my room and I was like what the [ __ ] this dude is playing in his room so I just got on my nosy [ __ ] and I crashed the session and when I got in there Breezy was in there he playing Look At Me Now for Nelly and he's speed rapping to Nelly and I looked at Breezy and in a jokingly manner I like [ __ ] you don't know what you [ __ ] [ __ ] doing with that speed rap [ __ ] me show you how to keep the dice rolling when you doing that thing over there that's exactly what you say on the song that's exactly yeah that's how it ended up on the song cuz when I was saying it to him joking around he was like what you just say I said [ __ ] you don't know what you doing with the speed WAP [ __ ] and you need to let me show you how to keep the dice rolling when you doing that thing over there homie cuz you don't know what you doing with that thing [ __ ] he goes I need you to say that [ __ ] again to me while I'm speed rapping interrupt me say that [ __ ] and then just go crazy I said fine give me to beat I go back in my room scribble a verse up two hours done I record this [ __ ] I come back in the room I had like towards the end of the verse I would say like within the last six bars I had like two of four bars where I kind of slowed it down from the speed rap cuz I felt like I ow deed so so much I'm I might need to let [ __ ] get a Brea before they catch a seizure in this [ __ ] so I I I played it again for him he goes why you slow it down I need you to spaz through the whole [ __ ] you going crazy could you just make that adjustment please bus I like this [ __ ] telling me how to go right my [ __ ] [ __ ] it I'mma go I got you King I went and I made the adjustment I came back that was the end of that next thing I hear when the record is finished it was no Nelly on the song Little Wayne got on the song so I hit a record I heard Little Wing go bad like that too I was like this [ __ ] crazy time to shoot the video we shoot the video video come back looking phenomenal I'm like this [ __ ] is crazy did I know that the [ __ ] world was going to react like they did to it nope but I'm going to tell you who was very very instrumental and that record becoming what it was besides it being dope and I have to credit this woman with being the first one to probably ever invent the challenge that now exists on social media when everybody want to do a challenge oh okay and she wasn't even doing it as a challenge but it evolved into that when Angie Martinez was on Hot 97 and she was decorating her [ __ ] dressing her Chinese food with the duck sauce and the hot sauce and while she was doing it she was spitting the [ __ ] and DJ enough was behind her and DJ Mr C was behind her and like the whole staff was behind her turning up and she just there spitting the [ __ ] feeling feeling get get away get away every day me just know that and she blacking while she dressing the food it made it seem like damn a woman learned this [ __ ] for me and I'm a dude and I K and when that [ __ ] hit the internet it just spread like wildfire and everybody else jumped in and wanted to do what she was doing so Angie Martinez the voice of New York as far as I'm concerned is the founder of the challenges learning Look At Me Now first it definitely had [ __ ] in they feeling that a woman got it together before dudes was able to get it Chico Bean show think he the man yo big him Chico Bean too cuz he killed the but he killed it he killed Angie got him first yeah Chico Bean you definitely did your thing but I'mma tell you I'mma tell you who else CRA what's his name man let me yo pass me your pass me look on my gram real quick I just got to Big up this dude cuz this is the most recent dude to body it the most and I've seen a married couple kill it I seen a wife do it at at at performing I don't know if it was their wedding or whatever but you see the dude that's on the that's on my gr he's he did this [ __ ] like he was an auctioner I think I seen that you seen that right I think I seen that yo that [ __ ] was so crazy for the bro that he actually put up a post about how that [ __ ] got like 30 40 million views and when I posted it it helped it it helped contribute to the to the way it went viral for him so much I just want to acknowledge his name correctly you got you got it you got you got the post bro give me my give me your phone all right here you go his name is crank Lucas crank Lucas crank Lucas dope name yeah crank Lucas crank Lucas is incredible I like that frankc Frank Lucas that [ __ ] is dope hard hey but he was a bunch of different characters he he was like three characters was hard he killed that [ __ ] that's hard obviously getting a chance to uh meet you know become fans with biggie early uh give us one of your favorite biggie stories one of my favorite biggie stories one day there was a accountant by the name of Bert padell Bert padell was like the dude that everybody used to have to go and pull up to to get they bread from when it came to like labels and [ __ ] he was like the the top shelf accountant for all the like the big Executives at the time I've had to go to get some of my bread from features that I've done from ber Pell it one day biggie was over there getting a feature well not getting a feature getting a check from bur Pell and we was riding back to Brooklyn and I ended up going to bur Pell I saw biggy I asked biggy where he was going he said he was going to Brooklyn I said you need a ride he said yeah so he came in the whip with me we jet back we go to Brooklyn I go to his crib when we get to his crib now he let me hit a Ready to Die album the [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] is while we there he told one of his [ __ ] to let everybody know that he got the Ready to Die album done and he he about to give it to everybody in the street so [ __ ] you know he already popping with the [ __ ] kicking the door record and all of these [ __ ] just playing as like the singles to build a momentum or whatever and biggy feature game was crazy cuz Diddy had them on one 12 [ __ ] and total [ __ ] and everybody else [ __ ] so it was in like extremely intriguing and strange to me at the time because this is during the time where you you would beat the [ __ ] Bootlegger up for selling your [ __ ] for $5 biggie had the hood lined up in front of his building like a crack spot but he was giving it to [ __ ] for free he wasn't even selling it and I I couldn't understand bro what are you doing [ __ ] say yo bus I'm going make sure that the [ __ ] that don't got my album look like he the hater yo I was the illst way of thinking at the time because it was brilliant marketing you already get promo [ __ ] to give to DJs and certain [ __ ] for free anyway because you need them to play it to advertise that your [ __ ] is out and that it's hot right he took it to a whole another place he had the double cassette JVC box in the crib and he was dubbing his own [ __ ] tape and just giving the [ __ ] away for free free promotion free promotion it was most one of the most brilliant marketing schemes I've ever seen and that was one of the that was one of those incredible moments one other incredible moment and I never told a story not on the record oh the smoke so there's a song in the middle of the biggie and a Tupac beef and he recorded the verse in my studio session the studio was called soundtracks Studio was located Broadway between 21st and 22nd Street at the time I thought it would be brilliant to have these three MC's on a Jay Diller beat as I mentioned he's one of my favorite producers to ever exist first studio session it was at a studio called unique studios around the block from quad where Tupac got shot this was a studio that easy moobile another one of my favorite producers he produced Flavor in Your Hair and many other Classics did most are ready to die he used to work in the studio a lot so I ended up booking the session and the song was supposed to have Nas Method Man Biggie and Buster RS on the same Rec record Jay Dill be I got a $10,000 check in my pocket for big I think big just got into the car accident with seized so his leg was [ __ ] up and the elevator wasn't working big come to the studio he downstairs yo I'm here bus I said all right well the elevator just stopped working so you you got to come up the stairs I said mean n's here he was like a what tell the Bros I said what up but you ain't gonna see me tonight my [ __ ] [ __ ] I look like climbing up them stairs my size and my foot [ __ ] up I said my [ __ ] I got your bread [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] if you had a trillion dollars upstairs I ain't coming upstairs tonight boss big said [ __ ] you and [ __ ] that and Biggie bounced we had another session we're in the same Studio no big interestingly I don't know if anybody wrote their Rhyme or even a piece of it but nobody laid their [ __ ] cuz [ __ ] wanted to see what biggie was going to do never got the nasm me verse I go to soundtracks the third day elevator's fine big and se's come they pull up methan and Nas came two days in a row now no biggie so they was not coming on the third day we in the [ __ ] stool at the time Branson is selling the most incredible bud in the hood and he would sell them in these Jaws that look like [ __ ] pickle Jaws Mason Jaws Mason Jaws sees with roller blunts and Biggie would come with the Branson jars and he rolling weed blunt after blunt after blunt and biggie just sitting in this one of the studio chairs got the wheels on it that roll around he's sitting in that [ __ ] just doing this while a beat was playing one hour two hours he just smoking he ain't writing nothing about 3 hours in I'm just like my [ __ ] you ain't going to you ain't going to do this verse my [ __ ] the [ __ ] said I'm ready what said ready you ain't right [ __ ] I'm Ready Bus [ __ ] going boo he does the verse damage on my neck Chrome drop top n on see pound of green o we you see the ugliest money hungriest Brooklyn Lochness 9 mean test Comfort test and that and the winner is not that thinner kid Bandana's tattoos my skin never bruised land still Cruise Frank White so you know what he doing yeah you know who he going at he shoot and that's your guy though that's my guy yeah and he goes in his other part he goes he goes k actor needs chiropractor for crack jaw yes I rocked your chatter box dangerous you're not I gets down twist your body round and round upside down I said big I ain't putting this out I Ain putting this out bab because Pac was my friend too right Pac choked the sound man out for me at a college show when we was leaders of the new school school because we got there late the [ __ ] turned the equipment off and wouldn't let us get a sound check this [ __ ] P ran up on this man and just choked him we only got one album out he calling us Legend he's still dancing for [ __ ] Digital Underground we ain't Legends yet but in PAC eyes we was the Legends I love these [ __ ] man I got to be the mediator I can't add fuel of this fire I ain't put it out so when big pass Pac pass Diddy working on the Born Again album and if you listen to the Born Again album biggie was Diddy was looking for verses that might have been laying around that was never released commercially that big had recorded and I told Diddy that I had this verse for a long time so when Diddy wanted to diverse I said you got to give me back the money that I paid big you could have a verse because I already know that number one I wasn't putting it out with the the back and forth and I also knew that once biggie passed whatever was going to happen with big big moms needed to sanction it she needed to bless it she needed to be okay with it I knew puff had to clear it so I wasn't going to be able to put it out anyway even if I did do it the way that I ended up doing it on the Born Again album because if you listen to the Born Again album there's a song called Dangerous M seas and I told Diddy if I give you this verse I need to control This Record creatively so I went and got one of my favorite producers not the ruler from VA he gave me one of the craziest beats Snoop Mark Curry myself and Biggie is on the song but in the lines where biggie might have said something to pop I muted those lines and I put bars there to cover up those disses so it sound like me and big going back and forth you know what I'm saying and um that's one of the gems that the world finally got to hear about why that's dope so y'all getting that story from the [ __ ] y getting the real smoke quickly quickly speak on not quickly speak on your relationship with PAC yeah my my relationship with Pac was super duper beautiful I'm going tell you something Biggie and me was closer than me and Pac but my relationship with Pac was incredible this is this is the moment when I knew me and Pac was really solid while I was shooting a Higher Learning movie movie me Pac Omar EPS we all stayed in those oood apartments them fully furnished shits in the in the west coast but this one in particularly was on Hollywood and Fuller and um at the time I think me and Pac stayed on the same floor so I would come out of my apartment walk down the hall bus a left and go to parac apartment we both was on the first floor during this time was when a lot of the crazy [ __ ] started with Pac Jack the rapper in Atlanta and he sent his [ __ ] 64 down there and he ended up shooting the cop the off duty police Pac was standing in the oak Department of with him Fuller when Pac got back from that Pac became super parro because he felt like the cops was going to be out to kill him no matter what state he was in so he had got wild Arsenal he kept a MPC beat machine in the crib and like I literally watched them write about seven songs to the same Oley brother sample each song was about different [ __ ] I couldn't understand that after a while I get tired of hearing a [ __ ] beat I don't want to hear that beat didn't write no more songs to it I write the one damn song to it I'm off the damn beat he wrote seven songs of the same beat the next thing that was happening to him or that did happen to him and we used to just build all the time and just smoke and chop it up but the next thing that happened to him that I I had to play a role in was before the source Awards was on TV and before the source Awards with the [ __ ] which with with with with Suge and all of them to Diddy you know at the time we would perform off of these dat tapes right so it's not like an instant replay or like the Sado where you could just press the button and [ __ ] start over right you got to rewind that [ __ ] like a cassette it's like a mini V VCR tape right it's called that tape digital audio tape you press that [ __ ] and it goes if you don't go with the [ __ ] you miss your placement yeah so if a [ __ ] press play you just go so tribe had won best group award at the source awards at the time and while they was doing their acceptance speech whoever the producer was of the show this [ __ ] pressed pac's D so it looked like Pac came out in the middle of the acceptance speech on some [ __ ] them [ __ ] so he looked like he was disent tried because he just came out performing on the top of their acceptance speech like he didn't care that they just won their award and they trying to do their acceptance speech or whatever that [ __ ] led to instant beef so tribe and some of the Zulus they Ste the parac and that [ __ ] almost became something Pac comes back to LA and and calls me and tell me come holl at him because he know how close I am with tribe the world know at this point because you know scenario and all of that [ __ ] and we we you know everybody we see me with tribe or one thing or another I'm with tribe right so Pac calls me and Donnie Simpson was on BET still at the time and Tupac when I get to his crib he just was like yo bro you know everything I just explained to you he explained to me he was like you know I would never dis tribe like I love them [ __ ] them [ __ ] don't be disrespecting nobody and I'm fans of they [ __ ] music them [ __ ] is incredible you know they they pressed my dad I thought it was time for me to go so I just went you know what I'm saying I ain't know what was happening with the speech and all of that so I want you to if you can get me on the phone with Q-tips so I can let them know it wasn't intentional I got them on the phone they squashed the beef the arrangement was they were supposed to do something on BET to make a public truce so that the world could see them showing each other love and embrace and I think it was supposed to happen on Donnie Simmons or with rap city I don't know if rap city was on yet with tiger that's how earlier this [ __ ] was cuz Donnie Simpson was video Soul he was video so and Higher Learning came out January it came out early 94 so I don't know if rap city was on then but Donnie Simpson I knew the to go on his [ __ ] and and the the the the the the coordination for them to get around to it didn't happen and then Pac died two years later in 96 so they never got the chance to squash it for the world they squash it in front of each other but they really wanted the world to see it because Pac real real [ __ ] Pac really was on some he love the East Coast so much that he was doing a one nation project where it was a bunch of East Coast [ __ ] rocking with West Coast [ __ ] Greg n and all of them was involved with that project Buckshot BDI you know he was involved with that project it was a lot of New York MC's rocking with West Coast MC's under the vision that Tupac had to create this unified front and call this [ __ ] One Nation to to settle down the East Coast West Coast [ __ ] you know what I'm saying man and he didn't get to see that through yet neither I mean them songs still exist that project is still around you know what I'm saying and and I got I got I got a few of them sessions in my own hard drive you know what I'm saying because I was supposed to get on a few of them songs um but the the point that I'm trying to make is from choking a [ __ ] that wouldn't let me get my soundcheck done when I was in leaders of the new school all the way to and mind you leaders broke up in ' 93 we talking like '92 91 this [ __ ] happened all the way down to '94 93 995 even I would say 94 93 him wanting me to play a role into squashing this [ __ ] with him and Q-Tip it just it's a testament to how much of a respect and a and a and a love that we had for each other because we helped each other be solution based on [ __ ] like even when he got into the beef with the soundcheck man we were straining him like my [ __ ] we don't want you to get in trouble over some [ __ ] that ain't worth it we ain't never it was never about doing [ __ ] to be Advocates of creating a problem it was always advocating to find solutions to solve problems and that was the relationship Dynamic with me and pop and with us and pop and you know again at that time the mentality was different nobody was on some yo let's get on the gram and air [ __ ] out or get on the record and air [ __ ] out nah [ __ ] called each other and wanted to pull up and figure this [ __ ] out like what's what's really good you know if it's going to be something then let's settle it this way and get it over with you know we ain't got to nobody got to get shot right nobody don't even got to know you know what I'm saying let's just handle it the way we going to handle it and stand on business and that was it and miss them days but we still uphold those integrities and and those morals and principles on this side believe that what is your thought you don't have to go too deep into it but obviously kind of being neutral as far as having love for two the main people in the East Coast West Coast beef rivalry whatever whatever you want to call it how how how did you play that or you just step all the way back and just watch nah I I I did everything that I could at the time I wasn't able to have the same access to pop so I I I I had no real influence in situation with when it came to him like when he got around death row it was different you know what I'm saying biggie I was able to speak to him and the beautiful thing about big is he didn't even really want to respond to none of it because he loved Pac and true story he had a lot of appreciation for [ __ ] that Pac gave him as gems to help evolve his way of thinking to become who he became you know what I'm saying Pac was obviously out before B big you know I mean and when they got super cool you know he was able to give give big some game that big was able to apply in a real way and he loved and appreciated Pac for it you know what I'm saying I think big was more hurt than disrespected like he felt more hurt you know I mean than anything so it wasn't hard to have those conversations with big because big really just wanted it to to to he wanted to settle it he didn't want to provoke it you know what I'm saying and it's kind of challenging to talk about it because you know I know certain [ __ ] that I'm not going to disclose that sometimes it's interesting to hear young dudes you know speak about the situation and they don't really know what they talking about you know what I'm saying like Biggie and Pac they had absolutely nothing to do with what happened to him you know Pac got involved with [ __ ] in New York that he should not have because of his desire to want to be accepted and loved by his Thugs and sometimes Every Thug ain't Pro your movement for the empowerment of thugs some of them going to look at you like a burger or frankf footer with [ __ ] hands and feet yep you going be and you become fool to them and situations can get manipulated for you to fall into certain traps and unfortunately something of that nature could have been avoided if bro just would have moved a little different I just don't like that it ended up bleeding into it becoming this Biggie and P thing when it really wasn't even about picky and Pac at least not the [ __ ] that happened to Pac the the [ __ ] that Pac I guess was disappointed in was completely separate from any of that which it was so simple and Petty they could have spoke and resolved it so with that being said I really wish that I was able to have a stronger influence knowing the real dynamics of this [ __ ] you know what I'm saying but ultimately what we what we know now and what we have the ability to do now is keep the [ __ ] thoughts and all of the ideas that they sparked the thoughts in our minds and the greatness of their legacies we gonna keep them shits alive forever because them dudes is both Heroes to me so you talked about your health uh your health Journey where were you at mentally and physically uh you said uh um it really hit you when your father passed yeah I I didn't know how to deal with my father passing at all you know what I'm saying for two reasons I think the first reason was I never experienced the death of a family member that close to me prior to my father passing yeah I had aunts that pass you know grandparents that pass you know I've had cousins that pass but your father there's nothing that could replace that nothing could replace your mother so that was weird to me and I didn't know how to deal with it second thing was you know like I told y'all my father wasn't the biggest fan of the rap [ __ ] he wasn't really supportive of you know I was able to talk to my moms about the first time I had sex and [ __ ] like that like my mom's was super cool she would she would she would really encourage being truthful and and and being comfortable in my truth you know with with her my pops I talked to him about getting some ass he's like he don't want to hear that [ __ ] because you need to be focused on the [ __ ] that that's going to help you you got time to get with girls and [ __ ] like get your school [ __ ] to so that that mentality with my pops I learned to appreciate it later CU he just wanted the best for me at the time I just was like you ain't [ __ ] with me so it it made me not feel like [ __ ] with him and when he got sick cuz he caught a heart attack and uh he caught two heart attacks the second one is really what [ __ ] him up but I was also having conflict with my brother my only brother and my pops didn't want nothing more than for me and my brother to squash [ __ ] before he passed and between having my frustrations with him as my pop and my brother I was on some [ __ ] that [ __ ] and I'm grown and I'm piring My Own bells and I'm taking care of my whole family I'm doing that [ __ ] on my terms which was selfish and it was stupid so by the time I get I got cool with my pops it wasn't long enough for me to enjoy him before he left so I lived with I lived with that guilt for a long [ __ ] time and that [ __ ] led to me drowning myself in work drowning myself in smoking drowning myself drinking drowning myself and staying out late cuz I ain't want to be angry around the kids or angry around my woman at the time that was living with me and I just was a grouchy [ __ ] and extremely unhealthy so all of this [ __ ] that I was doing it made me gain weight to the point where I was the heaviest I ever been in my life and I I got to 340 pounds and I was looking [ __ ] up and I was feeling [ __ ] up and then I think just hearing that [ __ ] from my immediate circle of loved ones is what really started to make me feel crazy because now you ain't the Cool Pops no more you know what I'm saying we concerned you this ain't this Ain this not the person that we love you something you turning into some other [ __ ] you know what I'm saying so when I started to hear that [ __ ] that's when I was like all right I got to figure [ __ ] out and then the [ __ ] that really hit the fan I think um I was shooting a video forar which is the first single on my second my last album extinction level event 2 and my stomach was so big that the stylus at the time which was a brother that I've been working with since like not too long after put your hands with my askar see who came through June Ambrose the legendary stylist to to to make my stomach not look so big these [ __ ] had to duct tape my stomach down son this [ __ ] was the most embarrassing [ __ ] literally like the big thick silver tape it wrapped a thin Saran wrap around my [ __ ] so that the tape wouldn't be against my skin the duct tape son and and and walked around my body taping my [ __ ] stomach down son so I wouldn't look as crazy as I actually look individuals crazy that [ __ ] was the worst [ __ ] feeling ever video turned out banging that same night I think it was the anniversary of Biggie passing we go to this club called poppies in La my bro Fred mats is DJing and I'm getting super drunk celebrating the video honoring biggie life I overdid it to the point where that combined with sleep apnea and the palps on my throat I couldn't breathe properly and then you drunk so you sleeping heavier and deeper when you drunk we get to my crib and the security couldn't wake me up my oldest son who works at Black Rock who was the three-year-old in the woa video who's now third at the time when he was my my road manager when this happened this all transpired in like 2018 45 minutes it took for them to wake me up to get me in the crib he got so scared that he told the security everything that he felt he was too scared to tell me cuz he ain't want to hurt my feelings so he asked them to say it to me and they said said it to me the next day and the next day was when I went to the doctor by my breathing because I felt the [ __ ] weird the next day and that's when the [ __ ] he stuck this [ __ ] in my nose and went down into my throat and he's like oh my God [ __ ] just kept saying oh my God and I'm like you gonna say [ __ ] oh my God again and not tell me what's going on and what you saying or you gonna tell me oh my God and tell me what you saying he like you got to go to the emergency room because 90% of your breathing passage is blocked if you go to the crib and take a shower and your central air system is on and catch a cold at last 10% of your breathing passes get blocked you won't be able to breathe you will like be drowning above water I said I ain't going in no ambulance he said okay well you got to sign this agreement right here cuz I want to make sure that I'm exempt if you leing something happened to you you're not suing me cuz I'm telling you what to do when you ain't listening I went straight to UCLA Medical big up to Dr chetry Dr chetry is the one who saw my [ __ ] kept me in there for two days pre me for the surgery did the surgery told me to go home now you got to go on vocal rush like Mariah for the next two weeks and I did it came back I ain't have to see another doctor about a pallet problem when and lost weight transformed turned into my Little Hercules [ __ ] then after that I got comfortable and gained my weight back a little bit and then I went on toll with 50 and I came off with that [ __ ] weing probably the I'm probably the lightest I've ever been since leaders right now I'm at like 226 when I went on that toour I was 260 I think I'm GNA come down about 10 more pounds and I might throw the action figure [ __ ] back on me 15b might as well you know what I'm saying might as well but but but yeah it's it was it was tough dealing with the loss of Pops like that [ __ ] was yeah a domino effect oh definitely LED it Domino effected every single thing else bro mhm um Higher Learning Ice Cube a classic I think yall shout that at UCLA right yes we did yeah my school talked us about that process especially just I always picture just y'all beating the skin head's ass talk just about that movie and just that process yo I'm G be honest with you that was the most incredible experience for me because that was the first time like I had a a uh co-starring role number one so I was super gassed by that I was super gassed with working with John Singleton all I was thinking about was this the legendary boys in the hood Godfather and he was putting all of us in position of power more than any other director ever the MC's you know what I'm saying the black actors whether you you you didn't have to have no skill set no film or television acting history he believed in you enough to pull something out of you to execute the job and he put you in position so I salute John Singleton that made John Singleton Soul continue to rest peacefully but I'mma say this the thing that I learned for the first time on his set was how [ __ ] stay in character even when they say cut that [ __ ] was weird because I ain't understand it and when [ __ ] say cut knew how to get back to Buster RS I knew how to get back to Trevor Smith I knew how to get back to Lord tahen I knew how to get back to chilosi my you might see all you might see all of them in one night oh you might see all them [ __ ] in one night like yo yo yo so so the dude who was the leader of the skin heads I forget his name but he's a super known actor super successful actor but the leader of the skin head who you know convinced Michael Rapaport to become a skin head he stayed in character the whole film this [ __ ] used to come on set and go into the trailer with like Nazi paraphernalia that he brought himself that [ __ ] used to bug us the [ __ ] out bro he would walk past you and not say nothing like [ __ ] you looking at [ __ ] like he was on it on it for real like so and he was the nicest dude in the planet like but he just stayed in character the entire film it really wasn't until it was done that he interacted with people and that [ __ ] was crazy Cube at the at this at the end of the day me and Omar we stayed in the same apartment complex with Tupac which was the Oakwood Estates in Fuller in Hollywood so we was vibing all the time and I ain't had I I ain't know this was a first experience I ain't know to have a barber with you bring your own Barber so I had to use Omar EPS Barber think we called him shorty [ __ ] your [ __ ] up huh [ __ ] your [ __ ] up n he actually was killing my [ __ ] because I I a have much to do cuz I had to drag line right you just give me a nice line up and I'm Gucci um but Cube for the first time I saw a [ __ ] have their studio in their trailer like Cube had a fullblown studio in his movie trailer so he was recording on the set and I I will never forget this day when n's second album It Was Written was coming out bro that elmatic [ __ ] the streets up so bad did that we was on the set counting down the days to get that it was written album from nas like like the conversation every day when we would come to the set in the morning and eat breakfast and freshen up on our lines and pop our little [ __ ] amongst each each other that Nas conversation was every day on the movie Set Regina King she was incredible like I'm such a huge fan of her super duper proud of her like she's she's one of the best actors and human beings and one of the most beautiful women in the world to me super big up to tyara Banks too you know what I'm saying at the time H and John I think they was in a relationship and he just was taking care his people man and you know one thing that I could say about John not only did he take care of his people because he came back and got us for [ __ ] like he got you know he put Tyrese in position he put cub in position he put me in position to Raji he brought me back for [ __ ] sha like he he would come back and get us you know what I'm saying it ain't like he would just use you one time and that was it he came back and got you come on back let's do it again [ __ ] it but for for for for for John the reason why I'm really biging him up is because when you really think about his legacy and you think about boys in the hood all the way to snowfall homie I don't know if there's another [ __ ] that did it as ill as him from from start to returning back to the essence he did it the illis so I thank John for everything rest in peace oh rest in peace to the king um nominated for 12 Grammys still haven't received that trophy obviously your career is decorated and cemented as one of the greatest of all time you know athletes we play to win championships Grammy is kind of like a championship do you feel like you need one for self validation because we already already know what you are but what would it mean if you were able to get one I like and I enjoy what I've experienced last year because what I've experienced last year in my 33 years of professionally recording actually this year makes 34 right but in 33 years of doing it and I say 33 is because my 33rd year which is the Jesus year is when I've received my flowers in an abundant that I've never received it in before from the Lifetime Achievement Award at the BET Awards me being able to have all of my children since they've been born in the same room together I don't I never I never had a picture with all of my kids in the same room until last year I still haven't you know what I'm saying my happiness and my joy is at a level that I've never I never knew this kind of happy existed I love to hear that that's do that's deep until last year bro and the [ __ ] fun that I'm having I don't know if y'all notice but I don't think before last year I haven't posted as much much as I started posting about the blessings like I every post I talk about the blessings ain't stopping so we ain't stopping stay blessed everything is just I'm appreciating grateful the way I'm being blessed I'm super grateful and it's just getting more and more incredible man like I got incredible people that really love a [ __ ] and I want to keep experiencing that none of that is going to determine the the the greatness I think we do this [ __ ] and the reason why we end up receiving these beautiful things and I always say you know ain't no timing better than the most High's timing God clock is the best clock ever when we do the [ __ ] we love and it's coming from a place of passion and it ain't for the bag you won you already won you already won cuz you going to do it anyway yeah it's it's providing something else that the bag probably can't it's it's it's giving you a fulfillment self fulfillment you know what I mean that nothing else could give you it like that but the the beautiful [ __ ] is because you do it from a place of love and personal fulfillment when you get the bag on top of it it's a [ __ ] amazing because it never feels like work you feel what I'm saying so if I get the Grammys yes I'm going to add that [ __ ] to the Botanical Garden of Flowers I've been receiving [ __ ] up but if I don't get it it don't change the fact that I can still go down in history on my Bob Molly [ __ ] cuz Bob ain't never get a Grammy neither you know what I'm saying but you can't tell Bob Molly Legacy nothing right and I'm comfortable with that too that's dope all right last question before we get to Quick hitters this shit's been amazing so thank you the influence you've had on artists such as Eminem Talib quali K do uh you made your mark 33 34 years now um what do you think back when you look you know on your journey where it started where you are now the people you've encouraged the doors you've opened the people you've got to meet what do you sit back and think about because I feel like often we're on the hamster wheel so we don't get to kind of look back and man I had run you know I mean so when you get a chance to kind of sit back and think you know what comes to your mind the first thing that comes to my mind all the time is just how incredible I feel that the most high has blessed me with this gift and the ability to share you know what I'm saying I think that's why I overwork I don't miss a day in the studio even if I'm sick I go to the studio with my medicine my chicken noodle soup my ginger root the whole [ __ ] and I will sit down and just lay there even if I don't feel strong enough to record I'll go there and just lay down and relax because being in them four walls is th therapeutic for a [ __ ] I could think about being the all five six seven eight Avengers combined and I could be that [ __ ] in that [ __ ] studio and can't nobody tell me nothing and the studio don't argue with you and the studio ain't talking back and trying to manipulate and overt talk you and act like it don't want to listen I avoid all of that when I go to the store so sometimes it's it's the sanctuary where I actually heal quicker because I ain't got a cader or nothing in there peace at peace I'm at the most peace when I'm in the studio number two every name that you just said they're my favorite artists I'mma keep it the buck I don't think nobody could [ __ ] with Eminem I'm sorry Dr Umar stop it you whing son that's all that need to be said man Wilding son and and and and and there's a lot of [ __ ] that Dr Umar say that I agree with but this is one particular one where you way off the Kil bro know what I'm saying Eminem is the truth bro know I mean I actually I got a song coming out with with with an artist you know that I had to address about you know his testimonial and opinion on Eminem too I had to check him on his own song in Ryme form oh so y'all just stay tuned for that and I'm a huge fan of the artist that I made the record with that's dope but the beautiful thing is what makes these moments special is when you could be honest on these records and we ain't got a front so don't put yourself in a situation and then ask me to RH with you because I'm going to check you and you can't argue with me cuz I'm the [ __ ] Elder Statesman and the Thomas great now with that being said Kendrick is my favorite Eminem is my favorite taleb quali is my favorite Luda is one of my favorites Smo J jcole Drake Little Wayne Rick Ross word I got I got way too many favorites Ro Kim is one of my favorites Kane Slick Rick krs1 Chuck D I'll be here forever going down this list but what I'm saying is to the younger ones or the ones that might have came after me to hear them actually acknowledge and big me up and give me my flowers whether it's in a conversation piece it's in an interview that feeling and the thought that crosses my mind is super humble humbling and gratitude and and appreciation and I'm such a giver of love that even if you don't big me up in that way one thing I know is the difference between the truth and the lies the truth don't change only lies do so even if you don't speak it the show and prove does you know what I'm saying F that [ __ ] we know who my DNA is in pause but at the end of the day you know the great thing is [ __ ] actually acknowledge that you know we all take a little thing from each other I'm not going front like I could see Kendrick and I could listen to Kendrick and watch Kendrick and I want to rhyme with Kendrick because he is evoking an emotion in me Eminem is the same [ __ ] he brings the best out of me these dudes bring the best out of me I did a song with Eminem called calm down I sent it to him with 16 bars he going to send back 48 not doing that to me on my record I sent him 54 BS he sends me back 62 I sent back 68 who we making the song for at this point A movie we ain't making no song for the consumer we just battling not a record of seven minutes they Ain playing it in the club they not going to play it in the radio we might get some satellite radio spins we might get some [ __ ] blogs to talk about about this [ __ ] because it's an eventful moment but we turned the record that could have been a radio joint into a me and you straight raw hipop [ __ ] the rules moment because we love it so much that the competitive nature we both have forced us to bring the best out of each other only dudes like that can cause me to be this way so I love M I love Kendrick I love Talib qu and every other other MC that I just said and these is the dudes when they big me up it just really feels [ __ ] incredible I'mma put you on the spot right here name one MC that represents each burrow in New York one MC that reps each burrow in New York let me think of this one good Buster ryes I rep every burrow up cuz I'm on my New York [ __ ] hat to the back on my new York [ __ ] I'm on my New York [ __ ] Tim's with the shorts of my New York [ __ ] [ __ ] you talking about I repi the GI to Jets to New York next tell them made clothing in my New York Stitch my chick banging don't you see my New York [ __ ] [ __ ] you mean I rep all the Burrows man every burrow man know I'm saying next question who was your who was your childhood Crush oh Janet o off R and you got oh my God off rip when I used to watch her on [ __ ] good times and even when she was Willis girlfriend on Different Strokes I ain't going to lie to Penny bro Facts of Life yeah Kim Fields bro yeah she was a mean one for me too now was don't [ __ ] around and play grown now too y'all yeah right I'm outside let me stop playing hey that makes sense though why you did the studio the way you did for J obviously appreciative but at the same time there's a little bit of love in that love respect and and I still had that crush and that nervous why had to get out that's why I had to get out the r you know what I'm saying yeah now my mom's did an amazing job with making sure that being a gentleman was first and foremost and Kim Fields and Janet the respect level is so tremendous you know what I'm saying um there too so many women I would love to Big up big up Missy man oh she so we so she's one of my favorite talk about Missy for a second she one of my favorite I don't think she gets to him her and Timbo they don't really get the what they did for that era of music and I'm G be honest she she she's getting her [ __ ] flowers now brother yeah got love to hear you know she she got the Vanguard award from the VMAs she just been became the first female hip-hop artist to ever be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame salute salute like that [ __ ] is the most prestigious decorated award ever like hip hop existed 50 years now they never ever gave it to one female MC prior to her wow that's crazy years MC no no no no not one female got up before Missy it's a testament to what you saying though how much has she has done and what Tim has done it's definitely a one of none that's been been a lot of female MC's but you got to think about it like Missy writes for the most successful other artist ever produces smashes everybody with her own [ __ ] she could [ __ ] up the live shows when she feels like doing it but she got so much money that you will very rarely see her on the stage and her visuals is probably the closest thing that could [ __ ] with anything that I've done out everybody same that's that's the female twin sister of Buster rhs yes facts I hold Missy in the highest regard I I I I love I love that woman in a very like she inspires me so much bro we Inspire each other you know I I've been putting my [ __ ] out before Missy but Missy she showed me the Same Love and appreciation from her very first album she she was probably the first person to get me on the album and and and not even make me rhyme like just get on here and talk some [ __ ] and [ __ ] around bus I just want your voice on my [ __ ] energ yeah you know what I'm saying H yeah she she from the Inception of Hip Hop Miss's the first one to get the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame so hats off to miss out Miss for sure you know what I'm saying and um yeah yeah she she she ain't stopping no time soon either now that M we just cut from a cloth they don't manufacture no more K most underrated Food Spot New York most most underrated Food Spot in New York I don't know if anybody's familiar with it personally but there's a West Indian restaurant on udica in Flatlands and it's called topaz they got the wickedest but shrimp butter shrimp them have a butter shrimp them have a curry Lobster them have the wickedest steam Snapper with h c and vegetable no wor yourself curry chicken party and regular beef party and Coco bread them have the wickedest ha tail yeah ha tail that's my L they got all got every amazing food they've been catering all of my album photo shoots pretty much my entire solo album career and big up to Ali Tru who's the art director for all of my solo albums up until up until probably the big bang and then and Ali TR is a legend she did [ __ ] odb's return to the 36 Chambers with his picture in the welfare card now like she's different type of Legend with this [ __ ] but she made sure that every photo shoot for every album that topaz was in the building trays and trays of each [ __ ] dish that I wanted to eat so to all of those that get a chance experience that topad experience on uica and Flatlands and East Flappers Brooklyn and the owners and the shareholders of the topaz Corporation we have to have a new discussion yeah so I'm in a different I'm in a difference tax bracket now yeah let's talk baby let's expand stuck on the island three movies a show in rotation I want snowfall of course got to have it [ __ ] that [ __ ] that got to have snowfall there's a [ __ ] series that only had one season and it was on Amazon Prime was it Regina uh that on Netflix the died s minutes 7 Seconds s minutes that was that [ __ ] was unbelievable I didn't see that I got to got only one season bro season right too real that's why they had to shut mother still talking about it it was too real I'm watching that [ __ ] tonight yo but the [ __ ] I'm talking about the name of the [ __ ] was it it was the same name three times with no spaces in between the words it was a show it was a show about some drug dealers and some some like old This Old Man Mafia that old man Godfather that was actually in charge of bringing like this big super out of control portion of drugs to these mafia families because he he took took money from them or whatever and z00 Z Son there he goes again 0 there he goes again looked it up okay Jim I don't give too much credit now that [ __ ] is crazy one season and never came back that [ __ ] is crazy Amazon you said Amazon it's on Amazon Prime check it out one season that [ __ ] never came back it's super crazy that's dope all right so I got a third one yeah what is my third one this might just be a movie this might might not be a series I don't know why I love this movie this movie just did something else to me but when you said seven there's a movie called seven with BR pit yeah with the Dead the deadly s gluty and all of that [ __ ] was CRA that movie was [ __ ] hell to me crazy man right [ __ ] L they sold that [ __ ] mouth up [ __ ] wouldn't eat cuz he was a glutton yeah yo nah this movie was so crazy but that it be that type of shits that them action dramas and and suspense suspense Thrillers I'm a fanatic for them shits big bro so yeah if I was stranded on the island them three shits is what I need one guest you would like to see on all the smoke but you have to help us get your answer on the show that's but I'm I'm I'm G interrupt this question I normally don't if you got a personal relationship with Missy that'll make my whole year if we get Missy I definitely do oh please I'mma tell you something though I'mma Be honest with you we'll go to her she go to her okay see now that's different oh no no no we'll pull up on her at the Miss State norep El that's one thing she she it's hard to get her to step out yeah we'll step in Missy we'll step in respectfully no shoes on no shoes on neither n that's that's my sis and and and I will definitely reach out app and and and I will let her understand this is not regular sh rest in peace M too rest in peace to M man rest in peace to M well he just recently passed man it's it's it's it's crazy and my moms always would say you know we're not old but we're grown and the more grown we become the more regular it becomes when we see our people pass and um again with that being said [ __ ] take full advantage of the present that's why it's called the present and and and value the present like the same gift that you value when you receive it with the [ __ ] gift wrap and the ribbon on it enjoy it the same way you know what I'm saying because one thing the most high don't owe us is another five seconds out this [ __ ] real [ __ ] so enjoy it value it don't be afraid or reluctant to tell your people or your folks you love them yeah [ __ ] that bear hugs is is okay amongst grown men yes exactly you know what I'm saying and and and and and women and men I mean you know it's a little weird with the sexual assault [ __ ] trust me I'll shake your hand before I give you women a hug but overall I'mma still hug the ones that I know what my what my hug means and and I just feel like you know Missy we love you yes we do I'm GNA say it right now I love all of my fellow brothers and sisters in this [ __ ] period And as y'all can see I don't have conflict with people nobody I don't have those problems I love people I'm a giver of love we're gonna keep it that way too in fact we gonna step the [ __ ] up and keep each other lifted up while we love each other that's right that part bu man we appreciate I mean just to get an opportunity this has been one of my favorite interviews and and I think the owner of the building we're sorry we're probably an hour and a half past D we could we couldn't turn this off couldn't turn this off we had to go but this this was beautiful you know the chance to obviously be a fan but you know befriend you over the last handful of years and then get to know more about you thank you you know what I mean and just how how you you know what you've done obviously you're accomplishing to speak for themselves but I think you know a better man if that makes sense I mean a great artist and great at a lot of things but to me a better man so it's just like it it was the honor for you to sit down and and and come [ __ ] with us today big homie I'm going tell you both I've been a fan appreciate it thank you I made me a lot of money on bets y I'm not even going to front and let me tell you something the thing that I love the most about y'all both and particularly outside of being Champions and being boss and and a part of the elite group of the greatest athletes to ever do it I love what y'all stand on and represent as black men thank you y don't cause no trouble but y'all ain't got no problem finishing that [ __ ] with Grace with Grace with Grace make it look good you feel me I watch I've watched both of my brothers check [ __ ] and this ain't about being tough it's about being men and they be trying to misconstrue this [ __ ] with the toxic masculinity talking all that [ __ ] [ __ ] no we got young men young men children and young men teenagers and young men that still think they um men but it's a difference between being a man and being a male you have a male yeah you got your little Johnson swinging between your legs you got a little legal adult age you think you a man you're not a man bro you're a male you're an adult male a man means you could take care of yourself or you can actually assist taking care of other people distinguish the difference between the two and stop moving around here like you a when you not you know what I'm saying being a man that [ __ ] come with a standard and it comes with a responsibility that you have to be able to successfully execute and be able to take the good with the bad and the indifferent and just you know living down your own iniquity and know that the justice is the reward or penalty for one's actions or deeds a lot of times [ __ ] don't even understand [ __ ] [ __ ] want to blame everybody else for their shortcomings men don't do that look in the mirror male adults do that until you understand the difference and you could do that don't talk that man [ __ ] to me cuz I got kids that I got a raise to be men straight up you know what I'm saying I've watched my brothers defend the Integrity as men and they will definitely let you know that you can get your face broke but we ain't we ain't here to start the trouble we don't want no beef life is good but we will handle it we will handle it and it's important that we understand the difference that gangster [ __ ] is not it played out man talk about it you don't need to be a gangster you don't need to be trying to fight you don't need to even get in trouble liabilities ain't getting to the bag you you got the bag running from you when you a liability let's let's make it to where being smart is cool again let's make it to where being smart yep [ __ ] you don't let your today's decisions affect your future self you can catch this on all the smoke production YouTube man this was another legendary Buster r in the building man we'll see y'all next week

Channel: ALL THE SMOKE

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Id: Z3cP3F1Uo3A

Length: 157min 21sec (9441 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 11 2024