Shaq & Gillie Talk Why Kendrick & J Cole Were Soft, Roast Off On Wallo & Iverson's Statue | Ep. #17

The Big Three it's just big me it's not no disc record even jcole response it was a total move bro your first album was hot your second album wasn't your third album they gassed it what is we talking about man this record used to be like you buddy you can't with me or that's like say oh we going to go play oneon-one but we ain't really trying to win the game no I'm going to destroy you when you get out here yeah I do it big big big I'm coming I do it big big big say it again I do it big big big I'm coming wi I do it big big big say it again I do it big [Music] I do it big big big say it again I do it [Music] big how you living how you feeling how you doing welcome to the big podcast with sha where we always do it big he nailed it that time let's go uh we are joined by two very very special people can I use the voice yes go ahead thank you first in alphabetical order like Scrooge McDuck this man has always been surrounded by money from making major figures to stacking that cash money and now spreading million dollars worth a game even the jump shot is cash from a ghost to Gillie from the kid to the king and most importantly from North Philadelphia Gilly the king oh that was a hell of an intro you hear me that was a hell of intro next up is a man whose motivational mantras could move mountains an energy so infectious that when he yells in the rain the clouds try harder a bid made him unbreakable his confidence unshakable the Empire he's built unattainable also from North Philadelphia wallow that was amazing the captain of the wrestling team in prison get out of here man hold on hold on let's get to the business did y'all check in before y'all came to my city I didn't know we had to Che I did cuz I did I you check in with who who you checked in with somebody that said they know him checked he said what's his name K Dog no his name was crazy Mike oh yeah oh you know Crazy M he look crazy I said all right listen man that okay cool just make business first you know what I love about y'all too what's that y'all remind me of me and my cousin Kendall same y'all be doing we be doing fighting arguing loving on each other that dog must be a big he right there little he crazy he really crazy Winfrey you ain't win that one time he got got me one time you undefeated you Ain oh talking about you ain't undefeated against me got one and you ain't get no but he he he tough he my dude so are y'all really cousins though yeah BL what's your mama name my mom name Gilda what's his mama name Jackie Jackie what Jackie peoples Jackie what Jackie peoples he started a little bit didn't [Laughter] he actually growing up me and his brother was closer because he always was in jail even Juvenile jail he was always locked up so he Ain he make it to a lot of family functions so I'm reading my no you really did like I knew you was locked up but you really did jail for 20 years yeah 20 25 years I did I did five years in the juvenile system and 20 years in the state prison for what robbery who was you robbing just regular people stores like so you got caught he's slow bad feet me and K Dog never got caught y'all good then see cuz K dog a telling you Gil told him he's right he's under the car K Ken stand up dude man this dude told him he told her so you always talk about Freddy's prison cold SL so what the hell is that oh man Freddy was a listen it was the best cold SL ever it had just amount of pepper sugar it was just good it was old head be in the kitchen making that cold SLO he was a legend like it was just great man I like coold slaw like coold SL on my fish and stuff so when they would have fish he make a batch of cold slw get that fish fry hard laid on there unbelievable it was it was unimaginable never had nothing like it freaky Freddy it was made and freaky Freddy made it for him in prison man freaky Freddy I don't think Freddy was freaky I never seen him do nothing freaky I'm just saying he might have on his off time but in the kitchen is everybody out so you can't really know but I know he know how to make that c law all right I I've been working on this question because you get offended when the way I used to ask it so Shaq loves to tell people when he first noticed them what do you remember the first time when you noticed Shaq what was that moment oh I'm a basketball guy College I would like see in Lifetime right it's not too many players that you watch growing up and watching college that you say he's going to win the NBA championship like that's guaranteed you knew that watching Shaq in college you like he just dunked on six people five players and one of his players on his team and so it was like when he get to the NBA it's going to be too hard to guard him one-onone they not going to be able to they're not going to be able to do it like you you can't say that about a lot of people like you knew LeBron would probably be good win a ring you don't know 18 years old you don't know people even doubted curry in college you're right because at the end of the day Shaq was so dominant that it was unbelievable I know that wallow was probably a Shaq fan because he roots for whoever wins the champ Championship yeah but being but being from Philly what was your feeling about Shaq when we were going against him he was there the game Talking I was hurt see we won that Championship when I stepped over Tyron Lou that was because they was undefeated during the playoffs he was at the game Talking nobody nobody beat him he was talking so when we beat him that first game yes oh my God won the championship he was there two teams got the championship that year that was crazy the first time I noticed you speaking of jail was the movie you did with v Rams yeah me and Kenny was watching movie I was like know he was like yo that's that's a dude from major figers I'm like that's him uhuh you did a great job in him you called me too I did after that I was like yo man you did a great job in him remember that I was like sh called me but 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remember it is it the energy or is it something clever I know it's not personal cuz like in real life we all cool we are respectful I know they going for Philly but they don't know that just make me mad I was already mad because my whole family cuz like it was it was actually kind of hard for me to get up for that final cuz I had to be mad I wasn't mad cuz Chuck is my guy and then here come the Kim come talk I don't need I the defensive player of the year I don't need no the Kim so many times I had to though bam the Kim all in slow motion no cuz you know no cuz you know what everybody was saying he wasn't going to double me right so the first play of the game I'm not even really into the game I get the ball and he's not doubling me I take it as a Sil of Defense so now when I'm dribbling he trying to get strong I'm like okay you trying to get strong eat this elbow and then and then he at he and they wasn't calling the fou Le oh my God they was cheating I got that you broke that man face I got that but you know what they show me they showed me a lot of love in Philly a lot of our players couldn't go out and wouldn't go out right one got but every time I went on said man you talking like they show me a lot of love that that's why I really really have love and a lot of respect for f the one thing the best thing about Shaq is that if you play basketball the worst thing you can do is play with a big man that don't act like a big man that's the worst Shaq was the big man who knew he was the big man stop playing I'll slap you even still to this day he Charles he hey hey get some furniture moving absolutely so when you got a big man that know he a big man and you got to understand think about it most big guys are really soft teddy bears they just they laid back they Shaq com in he dancing he he knew all right I slap you stop see how told pH to Phil tell Kobe give me the ball you hear me yeah Els it's it's true now that you mentioned it like a lot of kids that are because they're so big they try to make themselves smaller to fit in no you have never lowered your head to try and fit in cuz I wasn't allowed you see the relationship they had my family ain't allow me they used to put me in this place in the nework called the hole and I used to go get dogged out then I have to come out and get beat up K Dog Brian Googy oh so K dog is undefeated you just told on yourself I had to get beat up Kim dog Kim dog work out huh no not by itself as a whole they like yeah okay they was just they would just call me all all type of names so the the podcast that yall do which is a very successful podcast kind of one reason why I wanted to start one whose idea was it I already knew that cuz you ain't used to tell he it was him yeah they used to tell me all the time you need a podcast you need a podcast I didn't know what a podcast was and then no disrespect but I was and looked at one of the podcasts that was out and I was like why would anybody watch this this is not good this is corny and but then he sent me an article one morning that said Spotify allocates 417 million the first quarter of the year to podcast 2019 2019 start money to Jo all that stuff there some money out there for us if they giving out 417 million from January to April it's some goddamn money out there for us and I I called him early in the morning I called him early in morning I said just just just just read this man cuz he if it ain't Sports he don't give about sports he don't so he read it he called me back I said listen I'm going to call you later we going to have this paperwork just sign this docu sign I got the LLC set up had the logo drawned up I got with the Shay I said Shay listen we got to get this logo a trademark and uh April 17th 2019 was the first day we came out it was game time it was on after that we ain't never stop episode went to number uh two in the World Behind Joe Rogan where did you learn all that in jail LLC and all always I was I was like I was one of them dudes like I was in jail so I was like I ain't trying to be in jail in jail meaning just on some goofy stuff you know when you after spending a long amount of time in jail all the conversations get old so you're like damn I can't I can't keep coming back it's like all right I I heard all the War Stories you got money you all the chicks you did this you did that that dope I got to start tapping these books cuz when I go back out there I got to I got to take something I got to do something else cuz you know the family get tired of you keep going to jail you keep telling Grandma I'm telling I'm telling on the phone Len I'm I'm chilling when I come home like yeah all right shut up that's the jail everybody see ja I'm telling you it's over I'm chilling when I come home I'm straight I got my life together shut the up you going to run up in the bank soon as so so so so everybody Bank everybody like what's name I said listen so when I I said cuz I'm telling you when I get home he said just come home and chill so I come home I'm doing my thing and I was building my own thing up cuz I I he's like come around cuz I said cuz I can't he I got to get my get a little traction first I can't just come lean on you and then once I got enough traction I started every day I just with cuz a day a day a day and at first it was a little it was a little like people didn't understand what I was doing they thought I was crazy because in the ghetto when you come home from prison and you ain't going to sell drugs or going to rob somebody you crazy see see when you see when you robbing somebody you shooting somebody you selling dope you cool everybody mess with you but if you decide to do anything outside of that cool structure of tearing the community down you're a nut you're a square you a lamee you a Los so I had to go through all that they calling cuz damn went crazy in jail man they broke him just running down the street in the rain he broke whole time they call him I'm in the crib with him he got him on speaker like no he minding this business man he said see cuz you doing something these woring about you they got you have dudes got money selling drugs rappers all you woring about me for I'm living in nny middle room and the in the same size as myself he said cuz keep killing them keep your foot on them and I just kept going kept going and we just kept doing our thing and it was like it just it just turned you know we just stay down you know whether I'm doing the big podcast hanging with the family or covering the big game on TNT I can't be at my best if I'm not wearing high quality clothing that feels great that's where American Giant comes in they make clothing that fits into your life they make they have an impressive selection to choose from my favorite crew neck t-shirt wear it under everything it is comfortable it is fashionable and as the seasons change and the weather heats up it's the perfect time to find a closet staple for every part of your spring days american-giant dcom and get 20% off your first order when you use code big checkout that is 20% off your first order at american-giant docomomo code you know what it is Big that's I wanted to ask about that so we have a segment by the general about the breakout moment we are coming on the three-year anniversary of the first episode which has to be crazy for y'all cuz it's what a hell of a three years like congratulations was the breakout moment in the Middle where you guys are talking to each other and being like this is going to work and it's easy was it when it went to number two like what was the moment where you realized all of those ideas you had are going to be real he didn't even know I was in uh Salt Lake City and I called him he told about how you know cuz he don't pay attention to none of see one thing about me I live in my own world yeah like I don't with nobody I wake up I go to my studio house I smoke my yeah I meet my my producers there bet on a game watch the game hang out with your woman and I'm you're looking at I'm the I'm the one that's on a I wouldn't know 90% of that go on in the world if it wasn't for him he send me up because me I live in my box yeah I don't even want to come out of my box healthy because anything you can name in life I done been through shot anything so anybody that come around with that type of negative energy is like get him out of here out of here no I'm cuz he's like that I don't I don't I I live in a certain space and I don't care who you are you're not that space up my mother my father sisters it don't matter you're not my space up so he's head down and CU I feel like I feel like when I was in jail he was out here establishing something so I'm always like chill cuz I got it I'mma go I'm going go la I'm going go meet with the people and then I call him listen we got to go get this money come on then I tell him to come after after we get to the point where it's like we got to get legal involved and it's time for them wires jump then he' come but I go figure it out but you were saying Salt Lake City was the break I was no no I was in Salt Lake that was the uh when I first called him and told him about that but the but the breakout moment to us was when I believe when we was just doing it it was just me and Gil doing it and then we was doing it and everybody was like they hit us up like y'all crazy sh hit us up y'all crazy and then people be like we got to come on there with y'all we got to sit on the couch with y'all that's when we knew it was converting you got understand this around Co time and people still like Snoop like yo come on man I got to get on Shaq Doug this per like like the first time Shaq came to do it with us uh we was uh Cascade around not too far from I think not far from here and um he didn't even know that he came through and in 24 hours we did five shows in the Airbnb we did him we did uh 85 South we did Russ we did some magic Skitty strippers and we did Young Thug we went to the studio in 24 hours and got up out of here wow so we were slamming them out and every I'm telling about it was so many people that we couldn't we had to label was calling us I'm telling we was doing probably like at one time we probably was doing like damn near 30 shows a month wow and we flying everywhere so I knew it was real I said real I said it was just like cuz everybody was like man Kevin Durant I got to kick with y'all man y crazy so we knew that we we BR something different to the game and we made and we made it just cool and then when we start seeing a bunch of people in our DMS and hitting us up I'm starting the podcast I'm starting the podcast I'm starting the podc and a bunch of people just started them so like okay this this what's up you know I mean people when we first started we didn't have no guests it was just me and him which is the best way to go yeah because we wanted the podcast to be based around what we saying not who we bringing you know and then after we signed the deal we still didn't bring nobody we still had it you know what I mean just us and then we said okay let's take it to the next level now yeah and and the fact that we having people like you you having people like Shaq you having people like Prime uh you having all these legendary legends that we look to growing up like damn they s here with us but what made it even more stronger was when hold up I I hit Gil cuz he's Sports fanatic for no reason he's just a sports he's a sports loser for no reason we both have an addiction so we're Fe he's a loser cuz his team's never win mine's de so at the end of the day I'm like oh wait till I tell him cuz he don't know I'm like hold up cuz I just seen a clip they got all stuff on ESPN they're reporting from our stuff yeah he like get the he couldn't believe it I sent him to join he like and then next thing you know clip at episode after episode ESPN kept taking our stuff and using our stuff you got million dollars worth of games sat down with Kevin Durant they keep using our stuff using our stuff using our stuff I'm like damn you know what I mean so he like you know cuz he's Sports boy so it was like see I was able to break it down I'm like because see CU none of the athletes don't want to go talk to ESPN for hour they get interrogated they here is a free space where we just it's almost like we just had a barber shop kicking or we at somebody basement we just kicking and just chopping game that's why they come kicking with us for an hour but they not going to ESPN they not going to they like nah I rather this episode of The Big podcast with Shaq is brought to you by the JN you know Shaq loves the general before the league before the Rings before I got my big break I've been rocking with the general the general has been offering quality coverage for 60 years and you already know the general was there for Shaq when I needed them low rates and flexible payment options to keep you covered if you're ready for your big break you know what to do visit the jal.com and get a quote today again visit the general.com and get a quote today and it wouldn't be the big podcast without the general so all that got you to bar so so the $50 million deal bar that's that's true well it wasn't 5050 more you more but um it was Spotify first okay Spotify first Spotify came in who what's my man name over at Spotify I want to shout him out what Lester what was it something Hulk Courtney Hulk Courtney Hulk scary Courtney Hope scary it got scary when he called cuz I called Gil he called I don't know how he got my number oh that's scary I this this dude used to like run disy guys want he how much you want W was like he asked that question scar question I'll be like damn I'm intimidated because you don't think about that no because normally you get an offer then you negotiate when someone says what do you want you're like I've never even thought about that because only with some real money could so what Isa Do You Want whole time I soon as he called me I call I call Gil and while I'm talking to Gil and the way he talking I'm Googling and I'm sending Gil this who it is this who it is this who it is so when he say I said uh no what y I said what y'all want he said we want to own everything I said listen I got to get legal involved man we going to call you back get legal click and I hug up he said what you hang up for I said cuz that was man I was scared man I didn't know what was going on right he said I want everything I said oh what's anything I didn't know so he he start going back to jail man last time he told me that my back anything that sound scary I said damn you somebody tell you somebody say what do you want just tell me a number I'm like I said no right cuz we got to get up out of here you I mean we had to jump off the boat I was like and then uh shout out to shakaz Zulu too from shakaz Zulu was somebody that called us one time and he was like man I got to plug yall with Spotify he might have got a number from him but that was going through and the next thing know we was in the office with bar uh for our first deal and they was like they wasn't playing they was bar got it Baro was able to be like no you guys are here today but you guys will be here tomorrow we trying to get in early we we we trying to get in early we see it so shout out to Dave and Erica cuz they was you know they some good people could really see see our vision mhm yeah they support creators and they man they understand distribution they really no one of the things that we liked about them is this whatever we get into however it go they not going to give us a call oh we got to let y'all go things ain't going right they don't care they wasn't scared of none of the certain certain certain platforms you know you get into back and forth tication they talk we got to spread we got a separate ways it's not looking good Dave don't get Dave don't give that's something you care about a lot too is having the freedom for people to trust you that you know what you're doing you just have you just have to be yourself you know you just have to you know stand on your moral stand on your principles and you know just be yourself you I'm not into disrespecting people but you know when I say something I mean what I say and those that don't like it it's not really my problem what's the what's the biggest business lesson you guys learned from the podcast everything is about data that's all that matters and with me anybody that come around us and want to spend money with us is because we got a community that they want to be a part of and we got a lot of data that they need so we understand that game that's major with me is one of the most important things to me is ownership Like We Own 100% of our stuff we only do licensing deals I believe in licensing deals and me I'm big on partnership I love partnership U the reason I say that is because as black people sometimes we get the the mindset of independent and don't understand that independent don't mean alone independent also mean partner independent also mean um Shaq could be independent but he partnered with the Lakers he partnered with the heat and I think sometimes we we don't understand how it's numbers that Shaq got in his phone that I ain't got in my phone it's numbers that Gil got in his phone that I ain't got so it's it's like a lot of times we got to really stab into partnership because it open the doors and bring so many different resources and it give you a it give you a cosign in Worlds you might not be in to tell people they already because we live in a world today whereas though people got to get permission to with you they got to get permission to do business with you they got to get permission to like you you know even on the lower level in the community Shaq could be doing his thing and don't got to be Shaq and everybody was like H soon as certain people like him then they oh oh I can like him now so so that's the same thing it's business if if if if Shaq start a podcast and he Ain Shaq and Coca-Cola come and say or you know he might have been going back and forth with the local companies trying to get with him and they like ah we don't think soon as Coca-Cola stamp everybody oh can't nobody say no no more uh Pepsi sir Pepsi my fault I'm sorry edit that out editors edit out edit it out so if Pepsi or rebok so now everybody was like oh we can't even play with them because who is us to play games with them when people that's a zillion times bigger than us got with him so the business side is what I learned from this and and really just networking man and and and making value exchange with the people that you have on your show while we speaking about uh drinks uh pure fuel just became congratulations the official sports drink for the Philadelphia 76 was that today yes I know it was in the works for a while is that your drink yeah yep okay yeah we owners dope is that why Joel embiid's been looking so good lately you off that pure fuel baby wow incred going I'm telling you now they going to the chip they going to the chip I was going to ask how we feeling right now they was off some other stuff a week ago now they off the fuel they haven't lost they haven't lost since they started drinking it say that again you know the Sixers are undefeated in their last six games since pure F fuel fuel Sixers huh talk to me gil we are the same people we have to live our life you have a lot of energy I have a lot of energy uh you know the story I lost my sister uh we we we lost coold you lost your son how you really feeling brother every day is one day at a time you know I might you know I had my days throughout the week but um you know it's chin up chess out man I got a family that I got to be strong for you know what I mean I was one of the first people to call you brother cuz I I love you for that brother Real Talk man but a lot of times you you one of the first people to reach out when all the time whether it's something good whether it's something bad whether you just something funny something funny whether you just reaching out to say what's up so I value that friendship you know what I mean because the reality of it is I'm I'm I'm way more of a fan of you than you will ever be of me you just don't know that well you might do that but that's not true but I'm I'm a real sports fan because you did a better job in your movie than I did in Kazam so that's why oh I did do a hell of a job no you did no you did no you did you had me convinced I was like that hard right K like yo man that's a dude from Maj I'm like that's him said man that was hard to that movie but I'm glad you're all right BR every day is just one day at a time Shaq how's the wife she's great on our way back from turkey and C coat right now so she's doing and the daughter the song that I want y'all to drop like y'all ain't even dropped yet is she's going up she's at like 7 million total monthly listeners in like seven eight months so shout her out yeah give everybody New York La you know what I mean she spell it spell it uh N3 w yr k l her real name is Nyla n y l so that's where St and Shaq been rocking before it even came out yes Shaq was rocking before it came out I sent him a song he did a whole club mix to it and played it at shcked and played DJ Diesel played thank you diesel thank you I mean is a different it's two different people you he me you got to know the difference we were we were talking about Philly earlier I have a few questions one I'm always hearing people talk about New York point guards or the talk about what is a Philadelphia basketball player to you someone that grows up in North Philadelphia or somebody from around the way what is a Philly basketball player like he is the epitome of that yeah cuz uh who Gil Gil one thing about him is that uh he was a great great high school player wind up going to a neighborhood College uh always you know always always always telling me all this crazy Gil UPS I go to the college right and I'm like I'm like cuz is like 10 minutes away from the crib man this ain't Temple it ain't it ain't St Jo NOA NOA he said no this Cabrini I said cuz oh you went to Cabrini I said cuz cuz this is the size of one neighborhood block I went in there I mean I'm like no no I went in there I'm like okay I know why you good this is this this is white college ain't nobody else on the team but him so I said okay snow bunnies was everywhere I ain't going to front I parted at Cabrini one time you did you had a great time I'm like this is a neighborhood college no it's not I'm thinking I'm going to like Villanova I'm like yeah I'm be going be parties so we get to the Joint he telling me Oh no no you know I got the letters at the crib I said you ain't get a letter from Michigan you ain't get a letter from dup you ain't get letter from Ohio State whole time I'm telling you cuz uh uh what's what's the name you see how many of them letters I got well from everywhere Miami over Ohio I think wanted you like that they was that was it I said where the I said Miami is not in Ohio cuz I don't know it back then I'm like it's no I said this fake he came out and he was like is Miami in Ohio I said why so I you know we I'm young at this time I'm like I'm like cuz man I don't think you that good man I told him that I said I don't think you that good he I'm telling you man they going to come get me I saidit man I come on man not playing here letters from everywhere Virginia I ain't seen no letters from you seen everywhere cman State yeah that's de you getting nil deals back in the day would have been hilarious that would have been crazy they gave him they probably gave him like a some free food from like the neighborhood restaurant that have been his n i I do have a mess hold I have a message Gilly I do have a message from our friend Jamal Crawford oh yeah yeah we're going up the he said he said to tell him one B he said tell Gilly I had stopped working out but now I'm back motivated just for him stop running he told you to stop running I've been trying to get to Jamal and his son forever I'm oh I'mma Be Jamal's bank because you know the bank of sha kovia stays open name your Mount first of all you know they said let me just tell you the rules though you know they said that Jamal only take two dribbles why they say it they who just pleas please read what I DM you me read please read that do you want me to read in your voice or white guy voice white guy voice Molly Mall please don't pay my cousin any attention he smoked some bad when he called you out Legend please give him a pass he's only 4 fo9 and a half oh yeah thank you for your time just to let you know on January 26 2007 you became my favorite player when you put up 52 on the heat keep being great I I looked 49 and a half he's a loser I'm just saying he be saying all types of C look he only goes with winners so it sounds like he's predicting Jamal's gonna win so he's already aligning with let me just tell you something there's no way Jamal gonna beat Damen Gillard Sam gasel Shay gild this Alexander CH Gil noly chy gilp you know hold on and shagil O'Neal shagil O'Neal and if I I'm really on I'm Mike Gil Jordan I'm just I like I like that one you got him in nicknames hey you guys we Tri what would be your strategy we play Two on Two he was Shaquille Lil yeah I had to snatch that name away from that Shaq name all up no no no couple couple young kids in nor Philly slammed on me my ACL was messed up don't count I see I said never got dunked on somebody would went to the hospital first playing on the crate cuz I was on a corner I didn't they DED on you to snatch that name back from him I see you guys have great energy similar to me and my cousin one that beat you up uh you guys if you guys ever had a serious fight and then what was the longest time that y'all broke up me and Kenny had a fight hold on me me and Kenny had a fight one time we probably didn't speak for about a week or two so did you have a real fight yeah I tended his window listen listen we never had no real fight bro I tinted your window bro no no no no no we never had no real fight CL your window up bro I I always thre I always throw him in it's it's on it's on it's on a page when I had you screaming for toti Gina in the crib when I put you in in the chicken wing I had you in a chicken wing man my back was I just fresh out of jail thre you in the chicken my back was tender you was screaming ah my back and I was still trying to figure out if you was a little frisky from from being to jail time you running up grabbing me from the back what you going to do cu cous but do listen I'm I'm cuz listen I'm not we not playing the hands I get right to I'm going I'm grabbing his an I'm getting him out of there I'm going get him out of here see who say that I'm crabbing his ankles you craing ankles you know what it is you know what it is man I'm going tell you some real stuff Jack what it is is that I'm so glad that he my cousin because this my older cousin the check game is legendary if I'm out of pocket I check him if he out of pocket he check me and it's just so real cuz it ain't we we not competing with each other we ain't do no if I'm wrong I'm wrong I ain't trying to argue that I'm wrong I'm not trying to finesse that I'm wrong and that's what I love about him and he going to tell me yo cuz where you at come here man let me holl at you I'll be like damn what's up no we can't be doing you done some dumb same way I'll be like cuz don't do that like he he had called me but like cuz I seen you you call me man what did I do I said listen cuz you can't I mean I be having to censor sometime because we live in a world where sometimes you can't you can't you you can't get a world your truth it ain't for everybody because everybody can't might take it the wrong way so that's my joint with him what he say he be that's how he be all the time cuz I cuz you know a couple people that with you I'm the first to call you what's happening and he be like man leave that all so so you got to have that so he out of Y yeah yeah who who the oldest I'm older oh yeah yeah so he I'm rocking with yeah did you used to watch him up in the tub like I did him something like that oh my God look at he he over there he laughing he got it hey we used to have a hold on we used to share a bunk Bear right so whoa that had to be the biggest bunk bear no you bot him he out a pocket let me get to the story he out a pocket let me get to the St swallowed up sorry you get the story we were we were both fighting for Grandma's love right so Grandma Grandma used to us up when we pee in the bed right man wait sh you was pissing in the bed I was pissing in the bed how old was you 5 six forget forget all that but so anyway me and him were smart so I used to wake up in the middle Lan get some water and pour it in bed and then go straight to Grandma Grandma Kenny peed in the bed and she come in there whoop then he found out what I was doing he started doing that to me grandma sha peed bed she used to come get you get your big so like we've been you know we've been down like that long time since the 70s since that's why I love your energy cuz that's the same energy man he checked me I check him we fight we argue but it's all up what's so great about it is that um and I was the top you trying to be funny yeah but damn scary as hell that's scary Shaquille O'Neal sleeping yeah to to that hold you fall on you like like step brother what's so good is that when we see people it brings back I came up we all came up at a time where in the hood all we had was family all we had is the jokes all we had is the love all we had is the uh the fighting the figuring it out uh and and outside of that we had the music the music was the soundtrack to the struggle that got us out of some hard times so a lot of times with me and Gil we just sharing our regular life that it be if you didn't see it cuz we tripping out all day we tripping all day laughing going through the real stuff dealing with real issues and that that we help each other get through whatever you know uh Iverson question they're building him a statue Bubba Chuck Bubba Chuck my G the greatest player in my eyes ever the two best ideas that I saw were either the hand to the ear it got to be the hand to the ear or the stepover no a crossover we'll do three High cross so is it a high cross is it the the hand to the ear or the step over but I ain't going to lie though the hand to the ear that was that was that was that was Bubba thing give you 45 and then walk around let me I want to add to that to me that was part of the reason why Philadelphia loved Iverson so much cuz it was him saying I want to hear you you like it really was a connection with your yeah old snor McGee no yeah I do have but I'm going tell you what actually I do he's a legendary figure that would never be forgotten you talk about data right if you put a nice crossover thing fans could take pictures in front of it getting crossover like like for example like when they did my statue in La I was I don't want statue in front I want my goddamn Dunkman em hanging off the side of the building and for years we fought on that was like we want like well I don't want one of you can put it in front so if you go to La stable Center you see my Dunkman emblem knees up nuts out on the side of the building you got people taking pictures cuz that's how it would be saying so I think like nice crossover like you know him touching ground people like pretend they're getting crossed up play okay but then the step over they lay underneath it you get to get stepped over like T ton Lou did that's a good one put ton L down there too don't do that to coach that would be so funny that'd be so funny yeah yeah that's a good one um I also think I'm with three people that are qualified to talk about what's happening right now I'm seeing some people say wow so mature of jcole I'm seeing mature it was Jay is a guy great dude it was a total move bro first of all let's just be honest bro that's not no dis record The Big Three it's just big me if that's a disc record that's corny I'm just being at the last time I checked this records went like this first off to click your claim West Side when we ride come and quit with game you claim to be a player but I your wife we bust on Bad Boys for Life yeah last time I checked my no Vaseline you know a fan a phony a snake a a stand I still whop you 36 in the karate class you TBO trying to work it out trying to get brolic ask me if I'm trying to kick knowledge that those was this records yeah godd damn it D Wayne Carter you kid stun in his mouth you Birdman daughter that was disc records not no The Big Three it's just big me what this is what you said you were like this is nothing it's not no disc record I'm just saying and then even jcole response your first album was hot your second album wasn't your third album they gassed it what is we talking about man this record used to be like you buddy yeah you can't with me or that's like say oh we GNA go play one-on-one we gonna talk each other we gonna play one onone but we ain't really trying to win the game no I'm going to destroy you when you and and and my my aspect was it is you know Jay you could do jcole could do what he want anybody can do what he want but we had the chance to see hip hop at its highest level take it back to the essence of what was about without anybody getting shot right because shoot each other so so for because I ain't going front it's like a a abanded we have a a a big abandoned audience that was abandoned because they really ain't got too much to listen to except they listen to old stuff or whatever but it's like it was it was time to show Lee by example of this side is just we just rapping ain't nobody going to get shot SLA we ain't beefing ain't nobody going to get killed it was time to show hipop but it's like we come to a place now that if you did somebody based off of whatever it is you're a hater that's not hip-hop everybody was going and back in the day everybody went at each other even even in the night everybody had something going no I don't like I'm going at him I'm going at him so you know it was just like damn Jay but but if you look at it right we living in a friendly culture man it is friendly if you look at the basketball players man like each other they be on opposite teams man hanging they be hanging out man what you doing after the game tonight traveling with each other you doing you going to Charlie I'mma pull up what Doc and Bird was socking each other dude I tried to ask doc about that recently and about it right because they later because they really was a real rivalry like they wasn't playing no games I'm bir bird didn't give who you was right they everybody had like everybody didn't care back that it's like everybody's friends you you you the game going on he not even kicking it with his own teammates he down there busting I I I just hate about it is that hip-hop the way was started the foundation everybody's changing it and they saying this is hip-hop and like you're right I was like okay he said something he said something as a fan I'm just waiting for the next response I'm like okay we excited yeah we excited like okay but and you're right his side was going to do nothing his side was going to do nothing so like the best part about it you're like okay we about to get a biggest in the game we about we about to get a friendly competition and nobody's going to get hurt if they were smart they would a WWE like hey I'm G say something you say something then we gonna come out do a show boom boom and major Pap they came out and I saw Joe Buton saying that Drake and Kendrick are loading up the clips right now for who for each other that's what he was saying I don't think Joe talked to either one of them you think it's a bunch of nonsense just say yeah you're probably right you're probably right I thought was so interesting though no one's coming at Future at all and I'm over here being like are we sure it's not a big four cuz I feel like future gets the most respect out of all of them yeah but when you're in studio rappers you can't tell them you can't tell them what to say and what not to say I I remember I had to do that one time me and Kenny and hurt us we we finally get biggie to come down on on you can't start the ring so me and Kenny we shoot shoot two weeks before and this came and murdered the first verse but it was vulgar and I was like and I'm looking at Kenny K yeah Kenny was like no no no I was like I was like hit that button I was like big he like yeah yeah you right you right for the kids and then he laid that verse that he late but like I've been in the studio with a lot of guys that say a lot like you know he even said something on uh on UK South r that was that was kind of subliminal what did he say at the end pull the lyrics up for me something something about the uh something about the BMW something like that like I hate that a lot of people didn't didn't C on WE GNA get back to what he said but like you you can't really tell people what to say and what not to say in the studio I just thought it was going to be good for for the culture man I think I think we live in a town oh yeah spray up your days in any tell you win crack Bing Big bragon House mink be Dragon desert E Street get it for me Ken like he was talking that he was going crazy on that big one crazy on what's next for y'all oh man we just got the record label we got the energy drink we got the podcast got a record label are you getting back are you getting back in the studio no she she she on a label million for game entertainment amazing so we just working man you know of course wo got airplanes and hotels that's sold out every goddamn week airplanes and hotel you airplanes no but that's the name of the um over line for travel you know when you traveling stuff like that you know what I mean so your brain is always going yeah I'm always like do you write it down do you use your phone like where do you put ideas I I write in The Book of Life b just's a bunch of ideas I had from jail plus now I just have you saved all of the books cuz I'm sure you filled up well he's a culture advisor at YouTube so let's throw that out the chief marketing officer reform Alliance I just be on it man I mean I remember when I met you guys in the Bahamas and just looking in your eyes and going met him in the Bahamas what you mean met Bahamas he he said he fly me out was so happy to be there at the same time okay okay okay I I helped Gilly win a few G's on the Steph Curry bet we felt good but then I remember looking in Wall's eyes and being like I don't think this guy would stop for anything like it's just constant and it's pure he stops for one thing when he got to go visit his boyfriend in jail Kevin a stallion he definitely stops for that he's alive he definitely stopped when he got to go visit Kev you hear me he's alive he's going to that Kevin Kevin be lying you laugh you be twerking that's all you do prison twerking all PR twer YouTube one second I gotta go visit Kevin crazy man YouTube one second I got yo this crazy man he sliding it in he be sliding in over here I'm sorry now no Diddy oh my God all right listen this all right so here's the lyrics here here here it is right here here go a lyric guys how can players stand there and say I sound like them hello push wig backs and push six coops that's mellow bust clips that expand from hand to Elbow spray up your days in any telling in crack bracking scker bracking how my mink be Dragon desert E Street sweeping inside the Beamer wagon inside to be I I rely on best side to shut it down if I die put that on my my diamond bezel you're messing with the devil Beamer what was that in reference to I don't know you tell me I oh I don't think that's what it was reclin kept saying what big stole of sound I don't think that's what it was he was talking about I don't know I tell you back then though passed away in a BMW Maybe well maybe he well maybe he foretold it big stradamus just saying yeah Pac was in at BM but anyway the moral of the story I'm like man you can't say like you just can't tell people what to say in that no who knows what was the best session you ever no I want to get back to I want to get back to Kevin Kevin you got long hair short hair no he he had a little like a little lace front Bob type of joint is this Kevin Italian right here Dam how you how you f Kev you you f Kev yeah that's definitely ke that's that's C right there they lying on me they lying on me he had a lot of jobs doing jail man what's the best idea Gilly ever gave to you uh wasn't the idea he said man just just keep being you and be raw cuz this whole thing was like wow they see one side of you but they don't know you crazy than and that was like the rawest stuff he ever told me were you going down a path where you were going to change no I wasn't changing but it just that I was just he was it too clean get up what you doing stop it remember it was like you and Gary V in my in my algorithm and so then what was the first video where you were like damn he's actually him now no they see me snap on his sons I snapped on his sons one time cuz I was telling them about like all this street all this cool have you dead in jail man doing your cousin just did 20 y'all sitting here taking advice from all these losers out here yeah man and people seeing that I was like damn W be getting raw and it was just like you know what I mean cuz it was like uh it we live in a world now choice of words be crazy yeah you do yeah yeah I be getting raw yeah but no the whole twist is I didn't mean to say that but but I had a I had a real problem I had issue coming home right and I noticed something kids today they got this thing with they dad experience grew up in the streets know what's going on over for some reason they look at their dads like they like they lames and don't know what's going on so peep so I'm the one I'm getting calls right people calling me people calling me to come talk to their kids a they calling me to come talk to their kids dudes I know from the streets and I'm like you need me to talk to your kids kid and I got to tell him like your dad ran the neighborhood and you listening to some he just trying to tell you so even with Gil is like it was a consistent fight all the time with u with the boys and I'll be like and I and I S him down I be like cuz don't even say nothing don't say nothing cuz I'm mad I used to be mad I'm like think your dad is a nut that was my I took it like he know I take a personal when I be on it more than him I be like what they did what no we got to meet we got to have a meeting and I and they like why and and they be like cuz I'm tired of talking Gil you know how I'm tired of talking they got to head somebody else and I be like y' don't understand what's going on these the kid will tell you no I'm going to make it my own way I don't need my dad no the only reason you can move is because of your dad stop playing games we not going to say oh we going to take I'm going to take 30% of the benefits but I don't need the other 60 I'm going figure it out myself well you should have figured it out before you came out these nuts cuz everything you got in your life is because of Dad and that's what I be trying to wonder I'll be trying to I'm like damn oh so now you 17 and you got it figured out you should have thought about that before you lived in this house ate all this food up got all these clothes and live this great life that you live dents all in my couch yeah all this D ripped the refrigerator door off but it just like so cuz that was my that was like that be an issue in the community now every I'm talking about and I'm not glorifying it I know dudes that were straight gangsters and their sons telling them some ganger man did that's some old man I know what I'm doing out here you really do and then we got to keep going to these funerals because I know about 13 dudes who kids got killed and they was they was good people they was good I'm tell not good but they was certified in the streets and they tried and they and they had this battle with their sons everybody's son they had it figured out you don't even know what's going on you don't even know what the setup look like you so smart and you don't even know that the dudes you run around talking about they your homies they gonna backo you blow out in the car next thing oh you're gonna tell on you and you in the penitentiary so that was my whole thing with always and they seen a video of me doing that one day and it was like it was crazy because you got to understand this yet this me up I was on cheese so much it it just it I was talking about him I'm always talking to him about Gil because I'm like it be sometimes you just be you be so up because it be like why these young boyss don't listen and it's not like you got to go out there and be able to do whatever you got to do so it be like if me up so much because like with cheese and Son it feel like it feel like we lost him and this about this whole situation and it hurt me so much cuz it's like oh man I had to tell it something wasn't here no more and I keep battling with that any time I see his picture or something I'll be like damn cuz when they when they called when he told me damn he shot cheese I called our people at the U we got family at the police department homicide Division I said yo man he said what he said I'm on it so he said don't put gil on the phone I said all right so we driving to the hospital we get up there his mom there he there family there so I had my phone going sound I feel it I'm like yo what's up man he like man he ain't with us no more wow so I walk I try to sneak out the hospital Gil right there so I'm like damn I can't tell Gil this I'mma let them people tell him so I walk he seen me I said damn so as I'm walking out he said cuz what's up cuz and I'm like I'm just walking I'm like what's up I'm like he said what's going on man what's up cuz and I couldn't I couldn't I told him man and I never seen him like that I was like I wish how he had to tell him like that cuz it's like you always trying to tell these dudes and I'm like damn damn cheese you know cuz I'm like we talk to him and I talk to him I call Y what just just trying to you know cuz you know as a father and son sometime they go through it and you trying to men it's like that was the worst day ever man so it's like sometimes Che it feel like don't be working talking to these dudes but you got to keep going on because it's like somebody going to get it somebody going to get the message but sometime it feel like we doing all for nothing man trying to school trying to tell the man it cost too much to be a criminal or ain't worth it or whatever so it be like it just be crazy man you like I see You' be talking a lot to the young I saw I thing was yesterday he was telling these young rappers to save their money yeah can you elaborate on that I mean you know a lot of them they they you know they get to a certain level and then they get hot they get hot and then they just turn down millions of dollars because the one the one false reality that they live in is that when they get hot they think they going to be hot forever so now you got people oh I charge 150,000 and you got talk about I got 110 for you to come to the club and just talk about no CU they don't know how to listen while they winning they don't listen to nobody once they get the money and we got a game now whereas though the ogs turn into the Young Bucks once these dudes get money and they just let them do anything like they don't got nobody that they listen to it's like you know I'm pretty sure Shaq when you was winning and you was you had somebody that you could listen to or somebody that could check you would tell you but now the money supered a where the money is the old head now that's the OG so it's just different I'm realizing that's what all y'all have in common and myself too is that you're really good at listening and you're the right people yeah but you're good at figuring out who the right people are but also humbling yourself to take in knowledge and there's things we all have to do ourselves but people can lay out that path this man all he does is talk about people that superseded him whether it's his father whether it's his family member whether it's someone like Kareem Abdul Jabar and and if if there's anyone that could have been like I'm one of one I'm not listening to anybody it was you but I feel like all of you guys understand the power of the ear I listen to the people that's been there since day one it was me and kall stealing at the store walking home talking about our dreams it was me and Uncle Jerome and you know me and Uncle Mike and me and my mom me me and dmac you know renting the bins and going on campus and telling everybody we we we own the business dealership SOC Jerome is the deal dude ain't he what is that the one that be doing the ballhead dude security dude it was one one somebody you told me that be get how we see you everywhere you bet all these all these brand deals oh no that's Uncle Mike Uncle Mike yeah Uncle Mike let me ask you a question K do had a game though could he play he can lock somebody down and and and if you f him it's going to be a was he oh he was a hack oh so he was he played prison ball on the street know you know his nickname a foul dog damn he said you was hack Keem Elijah did you did you play you were in there oh yeah you ain't seen my trophies yeah tell him about my Trophies i no no no I want to know when you went to prison did you play in prison oh no I you know it was a little dangerous to play in this let's get to Dr O'Neal let these guys go okay okay okay what y'all doing tonight uh we got a leave to go to another part of Georgia to to see Tariq Hill and then what doing after that and then we fly back tonight no okay nonstop yeah if you want to come back at TNT just let me know I got you tonight damn four hours away I would have love oh man Gillian wallow I've seen you on the internet that Chuck that was one of my favorite players when he played for Phoenix he was man all right so it's time for Dr O'Neal fan advice if you have a question you like to ask Dr O'Neal you can leave it in the question you leave that question in the YouTube comments or send it to askd O'Neal gmail.com he is a doctor but this is for entertainment purposes only can I ask doc one question before we get out of here sure doc he his lower back acing up so it's giving him problems with his piece L don't tell him what type of medicine he can use for that doc he lying on me man he he limpy shrimpy right now Li he lied on me this question is not about limpy shrimpies but g ma from Brook asks I'm 59 and my wife is 27 we got married a year ago and since that time my 28-year-old daughter has stopped visiting me she said she doesn't want my grandkids around my new wife because she thinks she's only in it for the money how do I tell my daughter to let me live without making our relationship any worse than it already is GMAC from Brooklyn I had to uh Dr O'Neal well first of all I had to raise my my age limit up my oldest is 27 I'm I'm I I I usually work out in the 24hour gyms no 23 24 hour gyms so I would say just give her time you know uh she's probably really upset that this person is my age not going to be call coming over here calling her stepmom she not going to be acting like a stepmom so just just give her time you know I uh I I won't say I've been in that in that category but it's been a few times where I I introduce people and there a lot of faces and I be like uh uh oh you know you just got to give them time just as a father just keep texting her and telling you love her hopefully she'll update you with the pictures of the babies and just you know good thing about the world we live in now you can communicate through the phone and FaceTime to the phone but you know don't don't force her to come over and come to the family functions just give her time and to the daughter you know what comes after 59 69 he's getting older this make sure you contact your pops you don't have to agree with who he's married to and just just just make sure you love him cuz he was going somewhere else so did I no no I was like 69 with his daughter want to get freaky with it no I'm I'm I'm saying because listen head to toe listen we're all getting older you don't want to get that call that he's not here no more and then all the stuff that you you know you could have said to him you didn't say to him so I know you're upset about that I'm not going to get him than that but just make sure you call your father and tell them you love him you know just tell them how you feel I mean at this age man po just want to happy man I'm just keeping it real look look at all the men the when when you get a certain age man you just you just want peace and happy and happy that's it you want to look down he look up I appreciate you for that this morning like my man amen yeah peace and happy happy peace that's all you want some peace and a happy peace you hear me million dollars worth of game everywhere that you download podcast honor having you guys here man appreciate it appreciate y'all apprciate any time brother I need something to eat man where where the grub at you going to stop beating everybody man they say come to the maning me man everywhere we go got some cold gost macaroni cold SL 12:00 in the afternoon potato salad hey man with the big some NE K dog will take y outside dog that's my got the chef we got the chef got nothing whatever yall want right yeah [Music] [Music] okay I know why you good this is this this is 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Published: Wed Apr 17 2024