Building the Dream: Episode 11- Lean to details

well I was off for a couple days guys wrapped up the framing here on most of the walls we got a little bit of work to do here so we can finish insulating and running our vapor barrier and then our framing but my main concern want to get this lean-to done what we got to do is we'll straighten out this end make sure it's straight well lock it in place and then we'll go all the way down to the other end we got to go ahead and straighten this end out so when we run these purlins they're all pre-cut we already know the measurements like they should be but the problem is you get some cupping up here in the trusses sometimes the top cord has a cup to it so when you go to put your purl and then it doesn't necessarily fit in there perfectly and it creates gaps but you can't anticipate where those gaps are gonna be throughout this so as you go you start to get off a little bit so what we do is we try to keep it as tight as possible we level and straighten out the first one make sure this is all plumb and then we come down here and do the same and then we'll go ahead and just fit these in whatever those measurements are you know there's certain aspects of the build that you know you try to be precise I mean you try to pre measure and mark and make sure that everything is the way it should be but the reality of it is is the material is not perfect you can't change the cupping in the trusses therefore we kind of kind of you know adapt and it just is what it is on that side of it but it doesn't change anything quality wise as long as a nice straight square plumb roof I think that's what's most important also while I was gone the guys got this area house wrapped we got a couple windows installed and the wainscoting we got to wrap up this overhang and we can get all this soffit fascia tied in as you can see here we got our framing done for underneath the ceiling it's basically a 2 by 6 with a 2 by 4 on the bottom stiffening everything up and normally our steel spans about 8 foots maximum but these will be a 5 foot span you can see here and we just got to do some detail here on the end so these are all things that we got a kind of address to wrap up but it's it's looking sharp and I think I either miss ordered I know we've got some damaged wainscot this dark steel gets damaged real easily and not passing blame but it wasn't us it just came that way it had some scratches and that's just due to the manufacturing process the way it gets stacked on the pallet sometimes you get a little bit of damage what we've got going on now is a string line we've basically plumbed up right from here then we're just gonna use it to guide this end you can see way up here how that juts in now that's a combination of usually these gusset plates it's right there that gusset plate connection so if I come up here you can see how far off this is and that's pretty typical usually we've got to move the trusses wherever these gusset plates are for whatever reason so once we get our bottom defined Greg's way down there getting that bottom last post plumbed up and connected then we'll string a line way over there straighten this line and measure whatever that difference is and cut that last base so that it ends perfect and starts perfect ended up taking way more chains than I thought but now we got it nice and straight for those of you I know that are asking right now how are you just screwing these on this is actually going to be really secure I've got a bunch of grk structural fasteners in here coming from this way as well as I've got some toenails from the other side and this is all going to get tied together with our sheathing when you're doing a drop curl in you kind of have to do an overhang this style and I guarantee you this ain't going nowhere I'm sure there's a really good chance that some people are gonna disagree with how I did those overhangs and that's okay that's what this is for feel free to reach out to me let me know how you do it I know I could always do a drop and trust and I have done that before honestly I just don't always think about it so this ends up being the way we do it so I could get better by remembering that next time but also you know you can see that I don't have all that pre figured out I kind of just build these overhangs into this connection detail here in place I kind of figure it out and there's really no rhyme or reason how I do it because I don't do it very often so I just always have to have like rethink about it and then make it work so the first one is always the longest and then the next three are by far the easier ones what I'm doing is marking out every three-foot from the edge of the sheet and then this is the center of the rib we do that so we can put our filler strips on and then it's also important to mark out all your sheets so that they could run consistent because I promise you if you just run them to whatever you want they will not end where you want them to run so I get a lot of those questions people want to know how do we get the steel to go exactly in the layout where we want four windows doors and it's always you got to mark everything out you can't just run it so we got these foam closure strips they follow the profile of the steel these are an inside closure because they go inside the steel and then at the top up there way up at the top of the roof will have an outside closure and that'll go over top of the roof panel and underneath of that connection trim but this is where those layout marks come into play the center of our rib goes right on that mark and then they got a nice little tongue and groove here boom and then they just lay out tonight you kind of just smush them down and then they're sticky now the one thing about lean-to roofs is you've already got the main structure all installed and framed and basically not moving so you don't really have a whole lot of options as far as getting it square so you got to make sure your corners are plumb and if you're building the main structure is good then your lean-to should go on quite easily which ours did I don't know if this makes a ton of sense you can see here the framing that comes underneath our ceiling we've got two by six stiffeners and with a 2x4 on the bottom running flat but what we're gonna do is we're gonna put a ceiling on this so there's gonna be a rib stealing just like our sidewalls it's gonna come out and it's gonna die right on the edge and then we're gonna have a piece of trim that caps that and goes up here and then we're gonna have some soffit that goes over here so I didn't want a one-piece ceiling coming all the way out because I don't really like steel steel ceiling as your soffit I wanted to keep the same the same soffit material that we have on this over here is going to run this whole way and that'll be kind of like a little bit of an exposed beam yeah we got a little bit of stuff to work around here we're going out to trim around all these post Greg did you know that so getting going on this ceiling it's actually being a little tedious we got everything blocked in here so that we could bring that interest down this inch and a half we've got this header that was an additional thing here that the customer changed his mind on which honestly retrospect I wish would have taken that post out and that post out ran this header continuously would have made my job a lot easier however when we started designing this building the goal was to have as much Headroom as possible and now we're gonna be down about 6 inches below where we wanted to but in the you know in the end it probably would have been a okay so now we got everything ready to go we got to cut some sheets down just a few inches because I had them to go all the way out now they're only gonna be going to this header good thing is with the purlins laying flat up there like that we were able to punch these ceilings which we always like punching ceilings so we forgot if you remember earlier we didn't really forget we ran out of joist hanger nails so we're coming back before we put the ceiling in which is what we're gonna do next we've got to come and make sure we hit all these joist hangers that we forgot what's nice is now that we're up here in the rafters this is fast go America they actually are the inventors of the scroll nail so if you haven't heard of this Grail that's like a screw nail that you can hit in with a nail gun but unscrew and screw back in with a screw gun so pretty darn cool very strong and they've got this joist anchor nail-gun so this is going to shoot say ten penny joist hanger nail a lot better than hand pounding I know you can kind of twist these out and hit them with your hammer but it is definitely easier to nail gun and it's nice when you're climbing around up in here to not have a hose to worry about how awesome is it not needing to have a hose and air compressor running yeah this is a pretty big gun compared to like a Bostick strap shot which is what a lot of people use but without having a cord it almost doesn't feel nearly as cumbersome I'm just coming through and adding some hangers gas powered so it's going to use either the Paz load or Vasco gas but I just had a bunch of fasco or sorry I had a bunch of paslo gas I using that up but yeah pretty sweet there's a couple other brands that make the cordless version the Walt has one and it does not use gas so I'm yet to be exactly sure if I'm excited about the way we're detailing this but basically what we're doing is I'm gonna put a trim like a custom trim that's gonna cap this header down here we put the beam in and then out here we're going to run a almost like a post trim it's gonna be like the letter L and it's gonna go like this and it'll go out over the edge and then we'll cap this side right up to the rib now when we get to where these posts our customer is undecided I'm gonna try to talk him into putting some post straps on this so if that's the case we'll make a custom post wrap that'll go tight up to the J channel how do you like those miters looking nice and tight but basically the steel will come into here we'll get notched around and then on the outside is what I'm hoping is my my steel is the same my Steel's the same height as this so when the steel is here and I come through with my my inch-and-a-half post trim it'll go right over this and we'll fill this void in otherwise I can't really cut my steel to go around these posts unless they land on a joint and they don't all land on a joint cuz they're ten foot post and my steel is three foot increments so it's never gonna hit all of them liking how this is turning out nice and flat we got some good some good screw lines with punch holes now you're gonna see here as we get close to this post first off to scissor lifts makes a quick job of this super awesome and I got to be honest I'm really fortunate for that I know not everybody's got to scissor lifts on site but as we go to this post you can kind of see the sheet goes in we put those little trim pieces that I made pre-made and we have to install it this way because we can't put the steel in the back J and around the post it just it doesn't work the steel doesn't shrink well son of a gun so right behind me here I'm working on the overhang and trying to wrap up this steel here getting the trims on so that we can run some steel down low finish up our overhang and soffit fascia what-have-you but what the problem is you can't see it very well but there's here's the framing behind the house wrap but here's my framing on the rest of the wall so the problem is I don't have framing on this truss this is where the trust starts and now I'm gonna have this screw one that's going to go through and it's either gonna stop here and transition to this line or I'm gonna have to pull all this off and put some framing in so that I can continue this the so that I can continue this screw line all the way through when I get down to this screw lined out here that one is still in line but then we transition to the truss and I've got framing up here and I've got framing right down there but nothing in the middle where this screw line is I hate having a conscience because it would be really easy just to go ahead and keep going on this so there we go now maybe this makes more sense that I've pulled the house rap down this screw line right here had nothing to go through so I'm not gonna worry about this guy nah shoot I'm probably gonna do it too because this usually we you know we're gonna screw up here where the where the soffit j-channel is but i did not want this line continue through with nothing so now those can at least be consistent and all my screw lines will stay consistent this is something that I struggle with thinking all the way through a design of a building to where I know where the screw lines are gonna be so that I can make sure that my trusses that are gonna be added on the lean-to here are gonna line up I've done this three times now I think in total so this is the third time I've done this style of a building and I forgot every time to have my trust manufacturer put these end frame Girt lines these horizontal dirt lines that are installed here by the trust manufacturer I forgot to tell him where to put them and maybe the next time I'll learn but you know you got to keep learning or your die and they say see here where I snapped my line through just to keep it nice and horizontal so here's something I think that's worthy to note whenever we run our fascia I don't ever really concern myself with landing it in the middle of one of my purlins for the splice joint to be strong I think it's better to run it long put it somewhere arbitrarily in the middle fill in a block on the back side and then splice it together here that way you've got plenty of meat to kind of grab with your fastener and I think it then will allow you to make sure that this piece coming in is flush and everything works out on the junction and you don't have you know a bunch of nails kind of going in on angles to try to hit this end grain what do you guys think I think it's a great great tip pretty good day I would say we got this all wrapped up we got this detail done here we've got this soffit fascia started but we really couldn't go any more until we had this done right here which is the ceiling and I'm happy very much so happy how this turned out it's always important to have your lines line up and yeah this is just going to be a space for the customer to store extra machinery this grade will all be brought up to the top of this concrete which will be the doorway and you can see now how this detail worked back here we still got trims to do we've got still got some finished work to do here we'll wrap this beam here this is a 14 inch lvl there and we did that to get rid of the post that was here in retrospect I would have gotten rid of every other post but you know always learning always learning I'm happy how this turned out it's gonna be one heck of a lean-to so things are definitely getting close we're getting really close to the end we've got a lot of details to finish up we got the interior that we still have to do it's insulated it's framed we got all the plywood here so there's gonna be that 8 foot of plywood and then the rest will be a white liner panel that's gonna be an awesome space I can't wait to get the concrete down we had a pretty good day we finished up the other lean-to ceiling we got another end here wrapped up I got to get some trims I got some at home that I will bring and I've got some gable trims on both of these ends to wrap up but it's really starting to look good so if you're liking the video series so far make sure you guys stay tuned for the next episode we should be inside wrapping up the interior hit that subscribe button if you would so you don't miss it go ahead and leave me a comment tell me what you guys think or what you really are curious about if you got any questions but for me I'm out of here headed home

Channel: RR Buildings

Views: 214,018

Rating: 4.9680729 out of 5

Keywords: post frame, how to install a ceiling, installing metal roof, laying out steel, overhang details, rrbuildings, how to build a garage, working with metal, woodworking, diy, how to

Id: M-llmOXp2Bc

Length: 20min 35sec (1235 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 21 2018