- Welcome back to another
What The Tech video where we answer your tech questions. Coming at ya just like Cleopatra. ♪ Cleopatra, coming at ya ♪ - This is 2021 update to my previous video to answer the question of, what is the best cloud storage for 2021? So if you're wondering
which cloud storage service you should be signing up for, be that Google Drive, OneDrive,
Dropbox, Apple iCloud, Box or MEGA, then we'll be answering
that exact question right now. And if you're not already
aware, late last year, Google announced some
pretty significant updates to their cloud storage, essentially removing their
unlimited storage options and increasing the
price for cloud storage, so if you've seen that and wondering what you
should be doing next, then again, stick around. Firstly, if you are new around here, hi. My name is Pete Matheson
and my background is in IT. I've run my own IT business for
the last pretty much decade. I sold that business in March 2020 and I'm now coaching
other IT business owners, so I do know my way around cloud services and particularly cloud storage. And if this is your first
time here, then welcome. Great to have you here and if you are interested
in more videos around tech and investing and
running your own business, then please consider subscribing for more. Oh, and also, on that side note, a huge thank you to Sondala Consulting, Frank McPoil, Domas
Arimenas and Renya LaBuchon. Hopefully I pronounce your names right, who recently clicked the join
button underneath this video. Super grateful for your support and looking forward to
chatting with you more in the comments below. Whilst you are watching, make sure to let us know which cloud storage you're considering or perhaps using right now. Let me know if I've not covered one and I'll try and include
that in the next one. And if you've also have
any technical questions, then I will do my best to respond to each and every single
comment in the comments below and to prevent this video
going on for hours and hours, we're gonna take a look at
the offerings from Google, Microsoft, Apple, Dropbox,
Box, and also MEGA because I had quite a few
comments on the last one asking me to cover them. So here you go. And what I'll do is I will
leave links down below in the description of this video for all of the cloud providers
that I'm talking about. Just a very quick note here, I won't be covering Amazon
AWS or Google Cloud platform, which are generally meant
for the more enterprise, or at least the more techies amongst us. So just to cover off those for those who are wondering
why I'm not including them. Perhaps again comment below if you think I should be
doing a separate video to compare against those and I'll see what I can come up with. But this video is already
gonna be far too long for most people, so anyway. In terms of the key
areas we'll be covering, we're gonna look at
pricing, user experience, sharing, backup and
retention, data location, or sovereignty, and reliability because, well, 2020 was the
year to test the reliability for all of these services, right? So, after you've hit that like button and subscribed to the channel, let's all talk about the
first contender today, and that is Microsoft OneDrive. Microsoft OneDrive is both a
business and consumer product with Microsoft bundling OneDrive into pretty much all
of their online plans. When it comes to pricing, well, nothing really has changed here at all. For personal you still
get five gig for free. You can upgrade to 100 gig
for $1.99 or 1.99 pounds. Or pay $69.99 or 59 pounds 99
per year for one terabytes. Over in the business world, you get a one terabyte OneDrive with most of the paid for plans and since you may already be
subscribed to Microsoft 365 for work or for school, then you already have this
at no additional cost. When it comes to user experience, it runs on pretty much anything, including the new Apple
M1 range of processors. Stick with me on this one. Now I did have quite a few
comments on my last video, which, if you're interested
in going back in time, you can watch up here and down below, which were saying that OneDrive is crap and never works and crashes, it slows, and honestly I've never had this issue. Or at least not recently, I mean, years and years ago, yeah, I mean OneDrive was a pile of turds. But today it's been solid both
on Windows and on Mac for me, and on mobile, for everything. Now one area I didn't cover before, and requested by many of
those in the same comments, is block level uploads. Now, what are block level uploads? With block level uploads, only the changes made to a
file need to be uploaded. For example, if you work
on say like a large file and make a tiny change, well that change will
get uploaded to the cloud because without block level updates, then it will have to upload
that entire large file again and the answer to this question
in OneDrive's case, is yes. OneDrive does do block level
uploads on all file types, something which they introduced around I think it was April last year. So if you are working
on a file, you hit save, then only those changes are
getting synced to OneDrive. A few further points to mention here is, you do have one single client to instal that works for both personal
and business accounts, and you can sign into multiple accounts without any issues in my experience. They also have a files on demand feature, which is enabled by default, which only downloads files
that you have recently accessed to save space on your machine. For those business customers
it's also integrated with all of the Microsoft 365 Suite, so you can get to all your files from any of the multitude
of the 365 applications. Multiple people can work on
the same files at the same time and see edits live if you work in browser, and platforms like
Microsoft Power Automate can be used to totally
automate the creation and movement of files. A few kind of issues to mention, OneDrive does have a maximum
file size limit of well, it's currently 100 gig, but
by the end of March 2021, they should've increased this to 250 gig, which to be honest fixes
one of my biggest issues and biggest complaints for this platform, because last time I reviewed this, they had a limit of 15 gig. Which is just impossible, I mean particularly when you're working with video files like this. When it comes to sharing
and as you'd expect, you can share the files
and folders with anybody, internal, external, and yes, those without a Microsoft
account can even edit the files. You could set dates for
when this access expires and you can also set a
password to access that, which is pretty neat for security. And then from a backups perspective, OneDrive is not a back up for your files. OneDrive is not backed up itself and Microsoft 365 is not backed up. Please pay attention to this, if you're storing
valuable files in OneDrive and then you, you must
make sure it's backed up. Certainly for business, though most for people
using it for personal items, you are probably relatively safe, but do take that with a pinch of salt as there's still a chance you might lose everything
in your OneDrive. Microsoft does have
resiliency and redundancy. If one of their data centre blows up, then your data will be
served from another copy in another location, but if you delete some files
and then don't realise for, say six months, there is little
to nothing anybody can do if you haven't backed that up elsewhere. Microsoft even state it in
their terms and conditions when you sign up that you must find a
third party backup tool to backup your data. For data sovereignty, you can check where your data is stored by going to the Office 365 admin centre, go to settings, org settings, organisation profile, data location, but generally speaking, your data will typically be stored in the country that you sign up from. And over into reliability, well. 2020 was really the year just to test how good and reliable all of
these services were, right? And to be honest, I don't think
Microsoft fared that well. To give each company a fair fight here I've basically just done a
Google News search for outages to see what comes up as well as then dug into the status pages for each of those services to try and marry up some of those outages. And for Microsoft, 2020 most definitely was not a great year. January 2021, outage. December 2020, Office 365, SharePoint, OneDrive, Teams, all down. November 2020, Outlook.com, OneDrive, and Xbox services, all offline. October 2020, offline. In fact an outage happened
three times in 10 days. And I don't really think I
need to go on because, well, that history, and so recently too is just abysmal from such a
large company such as Microsoft. You think they would've figured
this out by now, surely. But, hey, anyway. Next up, let's talk Google. So in the everything Google world, there are a tonne of changes to talk about and yes, we still have the
confusion over the products. Google cloud storage
is called Google Drive, however they still have three
different clients to download. For mobile, you download Google Drive. Nice and simple. But on desktop, for personal users, it's Google Backup and Sync, but for business users, you
can either use Backup and Sync or something called Google File Stream. For all of these, you still get into it through a web browser by
going to Drive.google.com. And if you download the wrong
client and try and sign in, it doesn't tell you you're
in the wrong client. Just makes no sense. Anyway, personal bugbear
aside, onto pricing. Much like Microsoft there
are two tiers of pricing, consumer and business. Consumer pricing falls under
something called Google One, and then business is
called Google Workspace, which used to be called G-suite. For most of us using Google One, we are talking about 15 gig for free, 100 gig for $2 or one pound 59 per month, 200 gig for $3 or two pound 49, two terabytes for $10 or 7.99, and they also do some higher
tiers for tens of terabytes, but over on Google Workspace and using their introductory pricing, 30 gig for $6 or four pound 14, two terabytes for $12 or eight pound 28, five terabytes for $18 or 13 pound 80, or if you desperately need
unlimited storage on Google, this is something they changed last year, then you now have to upgrade to their Google Workspace
Enterprise plans, which is $20 or 18 pound 36 per month. Now I'm not gonna go into specifics here, but if you do wanna know
more about Google Workspace and all of those changes, then I'd recommend watching this video which is all about those changes. Back to looking at user experience, and I think Google are both the strongest and kinda the weakest. They have by far the best
client, in my opinion, of all the ones we reviewed so far, though apply a pinch of salt here as I am very much living in, you know, Apple fanboy world. So my opinion is probably skewed, though I have just
bought a Google Pixel 4, and I am trying to switch to
this for a couple of weeks, so if you wanna laugh at an Apple fanboy trying to switch to Android, then subscribe to the
channel for more updates. But anyway, you have to first decide which client you want to use because of all that confusion, Google Drive, Backup
and Sync, File Stream. For those of you using File Stream and the new M1 silicone processors, you are fresh out of luck by now. It's not supported, it won't work, and there's no official word from Google on when it will actually be available. I've seen rumours it will be next month. But also seen rumours that it's gonna be like the
last quarter of this year. So, time will tell there. - [Narrator] A few moments later. - Morning, future Pete here. Literally hours after I filmed that video, there have been two new
announcements from Google. Firstly, Google Drive for desktop, which is Drive File Stream's new name, which kinda makes sense, finally, I think, after what, a decade of
just not naming it properly, will support Apple M1 devices when version 47 is released in April. There you go. Back to the other Pete that doesn't know what he's talking about 'cause Google keep changing it. - [Narrator] Uh. - The workaround for that, for now, is to use Backup and Sync which does work, but provided you can instal it, both Google File Stream
and Backup and Sync are by far one of the most
reliable apps I've used. I don't recall any times
when the sync is jammed up or crashed or just anything. And that includes when I'm
uploading hundreds of gigs worth of data, or tens
of thousands of files. So just briefly, the differences here, Google File Stream, which
is for business only, essentially just mounts
your Google Drive folder to your computer and then just kinda downloads
the files that you access, much like OneDrive's
files on demand features, whereas Backup and Sync will sync selected
folders to your computer and you can also use it to
backup say your desktop, your downloads, and other
folders on your computer. Using it as some kind of backup, more on that in a sec. And when it comes to block level uploads, which allows you to work on larger files and then only upload the small changes instead of having to upload
the whole large file again, no. Google does not do this. So if you do need that feature, then right now you need to look at one of the other contenders, which is a real shame if, you know, if Google had those block level updates it would quite possibly have
won this whole competition, I think, possibly. When it comes to sharing,
you can share internally and share externally, including letting people who don't have their own Google accounts edit those documents that you
share, which is pretty good. And as far as backups go, no, once again the same story as Microsoft. Google Drive is not backed up. If you are a Google Workspace user, they guarantee they can survive the loss of an entire data centre,
but outside of that, they do have a short
window of 25 to 30 days for being able to recover any
accidentally deleted files. If you aren't a Google business user, then Google suggests you contact them so they can help you find your files, which I think basically means that they wanna kinda break
the news to you in person, since it's not backed up. Over now to data sovereignty, and to start with, Google doesn't provide
any facility to choose or determine where your
actual data is located. They do say that their data is replicated throughout multiple
locations for resiliency, so they're not as
transparent as Microsoft, but just a reminder here that both Microsoft and Google's offerings are fully compliant with
GDPR, PTR compliance, healthcare and all
those other regulations. Of course with that said, you'd be best to double
check any specifics if you need to be legally
compliant, of course. And finally, on to reliability. And I mean my god, you don't
have to really try hard to beat Microsoft in terms
of up time, now, right? Except in December 2020, there
was slight hiccup for Google, which knocked out pretty
much every Google service including YouTube and
other Google services in its entirety, for almost an hour. Which, almost an hour, I mean it's not that
bad to be fair, is it? It's nice to switch off from time to time. There was also an outage
reported in the US only in September 2020, which
lasted for a number of hours. Another one in August. Small one in March 2020, one again in January 2020. But I mean it's not perfect for sure, but definitely better than Microsoft when we were looking at
for pure reliability. And not to make excuses
for Microsoft or Google, but we all know that 2020
was a pretty unique year and between Google and Microsoft, they pretty much run every business. Every school. Every personal inbox for
almost everybody in the world. So whilst there can at
times be super hard on them for everyone else waving
their hands in the air with how shoddy their
service is of being at times, they've also had to deal
with this global pandemic, scaling their systems at a rate that has not been seen before, and no I will not use that word. - [News Anchor] Unprecedented. - Unprecedented. - Unprecedented. - Unprecedented.
- Unpreceden-- - Unprecedented. - So whilst I can be hard
on them for their outages, I hope that my 2022 cloud storage review will be a little bit
quieter in terms of like overall outages. And with that said, let's move
onto the next cloud provider, that is Apple iCloud. Now, Apple iCloud is something which will only really
appeal to Apple users. I'd like to think that's
kind of fairly obvious. It's 200 gig for $2.99 or 2.49, per month. Two terabytes for $9.99 or 6 pounds 99, and user experience is pretty flawless. I mean, providing of course
that you're on an Apple device, of course. It seamlessly integrates with everything that's
in the Apple ecosystem, you know, photos, videos, music, backing up your mobile devices, and just all of your
files and folders too. I can't comment just yet on comparing this with Google Drive when an
Android is in question, but if you are interested then do subscribe to this channel as I've got this android
mobile phone thing here, Google Pixel phone, after being 100% iPhone for
literally the last decade, so that's gonna be an
interesting one to do. Back to Apple and again,
credit where credit's due, the integration is just flawless. You can literally pick up any device and your data is there just also on Apple. Some limitations, in general, block level sync is not offered, so any changes to large files will require that entire
file to be uploaded again, and also there is a file
size limit of 50 gig, so for those of you storing large files or video files or media files, this one probably isn't for you. When it comes to backups, it is impossible to reliably and automatically backup
your files on iCloud. Apple also hold no information on any retention periods for how long they'll
keep your deleted items which basically gives
you little to no option to recover anything. Oh and also from a data
location perspective, you will have no clear
idea where your data is. Actually, in a nutshell, it's stored on other cloud services such as Amazon AWS and Google Cloud. You cannot tell if your data
is held in a specific location, which leads me on to reliability and because iCloud sits on
top of other cloud platforms, it kind of makes an interesting one. At the time of shooting this video, there was a report three weeks ago, right at the beginning
of January of an outage, another outage in November 2020, one in September 2020,
August, July, another in June. Which sounds quite bad but there wasn't anything
earlier than that and I will say that these outages, whilst they were reported
by like Google News, often effected a smaller subset of users and often effected just say
access to iCloud Calendar. Instead of those outages that actually take out the actual storage. So do take those outages
with a bit of a pinch of salt because they're definitely
not as dramatic as the outages from the likes of Google
and Microsoft last year. Anyway, onwards to Dropbox. Pricing here starts from
free for just two gig, $9.99 or 7 pounds 99 for two terabytes, and $19.99 or 13 pounds
99 for two terabytes of shared family storage
with six users included, so interesting to see
a family option there. For business then you're
looking at a single user with up to three terabytes
at 16 pounds 58 per month, and then for teams you
have an option of $12.50 or 10 pounds per user per month for a minimum of three users
and five terabytes of space. Or $20, 15 pounds, for three users, but this time with unlimited space. All of those prices are
based on paying annually, so if you wanna just pay monthly then it will cost you another
like 15, 20% on top of those. Now, user experience, is
actually, it's really great. Again, I've had no issues
with any uploads or downloads or crashing or slow downs. Nothing over the years and yes, Dropbox also has block level uploads. It also has a smart sync function which downloads only those files you need and stores those locally which is available on
all their paid for plans. Sharing works well, as
most of the other apps, but if you wanna share a folder then every person will
need a Dropbox account, even if it's just a free version. And then shared links are view only, so if you want the best experience, it's basically best to
make sure both sides have that free Dropbox account. Over onto backup and recovery, and we finally have a contender. Any of the paid accounts,
Dropbox gives you 30 days actual, real life backups, and version history, with the business plans
also giving you 180 days. So this is by far the best solution if you are looking for somewhere to make sure your data is backed up and they're actually backing it up as part of what you're paying them. So maybe Microsoft or Google could take a leaf out of Dropbox's books. One thing to note here
is that on the free tier, the website states you can
get 30 days file recovery and version history, which is fantastic 'cause it's free, but you then can't recover from ransomware or mass deletion using
their like rewind feature, but to be honest it's free and you're still getting 30 days backups. So fantastic. When it comes to where
Dropbox stores your data, the US and sometimes
in Germany, Australia, Japan, sometimes. But if you are a business enterprise user, then you can request to store
your data in Europe only to meet those pesky GDPR regulations. And then we come onto reliability. That old pesky reliability thing. The thing that's got Microsoft,
Google, potentially Apple, all weak at the knees, and for Dropbox, well nothing. Literally nothing. I've searched Google News
for Dropbox outage, nothing. One article from 2014 did come up, but I couldn't see a single
report of a newsworthy outage in 2020, so, damn, incredibly
good going right there. Now checking their own
website status pages, it does show a minor blip
of 10 minutes in December, a minor outage of less than
thirty minutes in August, and then less than 15 minutes in March, so I'd say that's pretty
strong right there. And that takes us over to a
new one for this review video, and that is Box. Pricing for Box starts at free for 10 gig, and then eight pounds for 100
gig for the personal plans, and over in business land we're talking four pounds for 100 gig and a ridiculously cheap
12 pounds for unlimited, but with a minimum of three users needed for all of those business plans. They also have some higher tiers which give you some more
options and API calls, file version history, integration and more enterprise-y stuff, and again, just for those business plans,
those are annual prices, so add 25% if you want to pay monthly. For user experience, what
about block level uploads? Nope. You do not get that with Box. And Box also has some
pretty poor upload limits when it comes to file
size, in all honesty. On the free personal plan, no files larger than 250 megabytes. On personal pro, that's
increased to five gig. Even over to their business plans, right up to their
biggest enterprise tiers, the biggest file you can
upload is just five gig. So if you wanna use Box then you'll have to be pretty confident that you're never gonna need store anything larger than five gig, which in today's world
could be a 12 minute video shot on an iPhone, at its high settings. A film, cad drawings,
and basically anything that involves graphic
design or creative media. Sharing is a familiar likeness to Dropbox. You can share externally, everyone will need at least a free Dropbox account to use it, and when it comes to backups, Box takes a different and
kind of interesting approach. You get version history
will all of their plans, and there are as far as I
can tell, no time limits. So instead of getting say
30 days worth of backup, you'd get anywhere from
one to 100 versions. Which I have to applaud
if that is correct. It's great and actually beats all of the other provider's
recovery options, well so far. On to that question once more of where does Box store your data? It's again, good news. - Good news everyone! - For users in Europe,
Asia, Canada, or Australia, they give you the option to
store data in your local area. That's a check in the that'll
do pig box right there. - That'll do. - For liability and when trying to search for such a simple name like Box on Google, it's pretty much impossible
to find anything accurate. But looking at their own status pages, we did have an outage in
January 2021, for half an hour. October 2020 for seven hours and that's pretty much
it for major outages. Again, I'd say that's pretty respectable, nothing like Google or Microsoft. But then again I doubt Box have seen quite the
scale of additional users that Microsoft and Google have
had to deal with recently, but overall if you can live
with the file size limits of Box and that it doesn't have block level sync, this looks like it could be a good option for affordable storage solution. Would I pick it over Dropbox? Probably not, in all honesty,
but it's an option still. Which brings us to our
final contestant tonight, which goes to MEGA. As I was just inundated with
comments on my last video to include that in my next review. For pricing with MEGA we are talking 4.99 per
month for 400 gig of storage, 9.99 for two terabytes, 19.99 for eight terabytes, and then 29.99 for 16 terabytes and all of that pricing
is in euros because, well, that's just all they bill in. And another interesting concept here, which I haven't seen
for quite a while now, is caps on transferred data. For example, on the 400 gig storage tier, you can transfer one
terabyte of data per month. On the two terabyte, then you get two terabyte
data transfer and so forth. Is it a problem? Probably not for most people. But the fact that they have a cap would then seem to indicate
it was a problem for them at some point. Based on my understanding of
MEGA and some nifty Googling, I believe MEGA has historically been used to help people share like
pirated films and TV and music, so it would be a case that maybe someone would
just basically use MEGA to host a very, very cheap
unlimited download service. Thus, the caps, which
then makes perfect sense. Privacy is one worth covering off here, as MEGA has privacy and security at the forefront of all of its marketing and all over the website. With MEGA your data is
encrypted on your device, and MEGA has no way to decrypt it. Though it's worth mentioning that I can't find any
third party audits or tests to really test this curious unencryption. But, what I did here is, I delved deep in some Reddit discussions where MEGA themselves got
involved in discussion and claimed they don't
need an independent audit because when they do share,
what, or what they do share, is the full source code
of the client apps. So people can really look
at the code themselves and see how it's dealing with
all those privacy concerns. In their own security
paper, MEGA states they are "a secure cloud storage
and communication platform "with user-controlled
end-to-end encryption. "End-to-end encryption
means that no intermediary "not even MEGA "has access to the user's encryption keys, "therefore the data stored." MEGA is currently the only
major cloud storage provider supporting browser access to end-to-end encrypted cloud storage. So, from a security perspective, this looks like a really strong contender. And they also seemed pretty
active on their own subreddit and willing to answer questions and get stuck into discussions, which I think is just great to see when these large businesses invest time to really
talk to their customers. Quick mention around
those block level uploads, which MEGA doesn't offer, so any small changes to large files will require the whole
file to be re-uploaded. Possibly only really an issue for you if you're constantly
working on those large files and making small changes quite often, maybe with a poor internet connection. From a sharing perspective,
you can share with anybody, though if you do want them to have any form of edit permissions, then they will need
their own MEGA account. Over onto backup and retention. There's no clear information I can see about the data specifically
being backed up, but they do have file versioning which stores older copies of files, though again, no real information on how many versions or for how long. When talking about where
MEGA stores all of your data, it is in Europe or in other countries which will satisfy your GDPR requirements. Though interestingly, none of your files are stored in or made
available from the US. Other than that, and as
I'm not a MEGA user myself, it's near impossible to find
any reliable information. Searching for MEGA outage of course just brings up loads of posts about the mega outages of 2020. And MEGA don't have their own status page where you can see historic information, but I couldn't see any reported issues, so maybe take that with a pinch of salt. So in summary, for me,
for MEGA, it's actually a, kind of an interesting service with a very different approach to the big players in the market. So what I'm gonna do here is I'm gonna give MEGA a
proper and thorough test over the next few weeks, possibly months, and when I'm ready I will post a full review on this channel. So do make sure you're subscribed for when that one goes live. Phew, woo, wasn't that a long video? Let's just run through them and I'll be sure to include links to sign up to each of these services in the description below, some of which I might
earn a small commission on as a bit of thank you
for boring you to death with this long old video, but it won't cost you anything more, and in some cases I might
actually be able to try and find like a discounted link, so I'll try and find those and include them in the links below. So, summary. If you already have a
Microsoft 365 account for work or you're using Google Workspace for work, then both of these come with
some fantastic storage options and from a price perspective, then you're just using
the best built in storage, which is great for both of those products, providing you can live with the outages we've seen across 2020. If you are fully in the Apple ecosystem, then iCloud is a no brainer for things like files and photos, but I still wouldn't choose to put all of my
documents on their systems as the features you get with
others are just so much better. For a pure storage versus
cost versus performance, then something like Dropbox
really does become attractive. It's feature rich with
block level uploads, and reasonably affordable too. If you are security conscious, then perhaps take a look at MEGA. Again, I'll try and get
a full review of that in a separate video soon, so definitely subscribe for that. Box, mm, personally I can't
really see myself recommending any cloud storage provider that
has a five gig cap on files, and that's even on their higher tiers. Unfortunately I'm gonna
have to take a pass at Box. But again, each their own. If there's something you've heard that takes your fancy with Box,
then of course check it out. Just be aware of those
limitations from the get go. For me, personally, I use
a mixture of Google Drive, OneDrive, and Apple iCloud, because I'm all about them apples. And from my own experience,
they are all reliable. I've not personally been
effected by any of the outages except that half an hour
of Google Drive blip, which I can kind of excuse, but I just don't see any
particular issue around Dropbox. I just have no use for like a
fourth cloud storage product. Which for me, then pushes Box and MEGA
off of my particular needs as my Google and Microsoft accounts are used for more than just storage, so it wouldn't make sense
for me to then go and pay yet another subscription fee for a separate storage plan when it's already included
in my Google Drive and my 365 account. But your case might be
completely different, and I definitely wouldn't
discount those options. Like I said, review coming on MEGA, as that one does genuinely
intrigue me more. And that pretty much wraps up here. If you liked this video, then why not check out this one where I talk about the
changes to Google Workspace, or if you're thinking about security, then check out this one which is where I talk about the best password managers to use. Subscribe to the channel to
catch those videos around MEGA and other tech things, give the video a thumbs up if you did, or if you didn't, well, I'm gonna go and cut my own hair now because well, lockdown 2021,
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