Asmongold Reacts to "Why has Classic been so fun for me?" by Preach

ladies and gentlemen it's time to talk and lay down my thoughts about classic it's really good sort of like it's the best game it's some reasonable way of thinking about this because in a week where I defeated mythic Oona in the highest world kill I've had since Cataclysm it was pretty damn good because it's also what I could go back and play classic without having rating or BFA that means that rating is really good if the biggest relief and accomplishment that you get out of rating is the fact that you don't have to do it anymore maybe you shouldn't be rating like that was honestly like that that's where I learned that I needed to stop rating is that every single time that we would kill a boss I would think to myself thank God now I don't have to do this anymore like that's the only thing that I would think which is just obscene it's crazy how much I've had to pull myself away from classic only to be thinking while I'm doing other things wen-chi log back in even after Hitler yeah it's 13 doesn't matter that's right it's just it's actually been a blessing we pretty dozen of the world and that is the leveling [ __ ] done now I can focus on other things that I want to get done before the level cut raises it's like a breath of fresh air yes like okay I have so much more to do with this character that I can go and do all this without fear of falling as blind or not being up-to-date with anybody it's been such a bizarre experience and why is it so different and to the retail and no one's more surprised than me no one is more surprised than me because as you guys know in every classic you think that US fund and stuff and every time I was asked about classic my stance was always pretty much the same I'm very very happy that the guys who fought for classic who were fighting on the private service through all the nasteria stuff and she wants to the Elysium stuff those Kyra's so happy for those guys were getting what they wanted but I didn't think it was for me and that caused a lot of outrage from people who really wanted to meet wanted me to be either on the far side of I let me just add a little bit of background here okay so this was at like 3:00 in the morning and I resurrected in the water and instead of the two or three people chasing me down to try to kill me preach and about ten other people ran me down chase me down I had a druid go after me in water walking form or whatever aquatic form and route me at the bottom of the lake and they killed me in the water this is what happened it's like two or three days ago their argument you were either in full supposes the dead against it I wasn't this isn't a horde right here I considered it a different game which is why I told many people it's no difference to me than people wanting to play Final Fantasy or ESO or any of that stuff yeah they just wants to play a different game that's totally understandable but for me I believed it was route plastic I was there looking on I was looking everybody on me I played it all the way through and I was done with that joint have no honors I was concerned like preacher three weeks ago was done with that journey blizzard asked me about classic several times over the last couple of months and obviously they knew the beta was coming it should address me but I kept getting solved random questions from Blizzard about classic like what what is it you're gonna test in Class A what do you think about classic what is it you're looking forward to about classic and my answer was always pretty much the same thing I'm not interested in the content this is me if three weeks ago I'm not just doing the content I've done molten core and all the way to nice another little bit of that stuff and that's not why I'm interested why I am interested is the community aspects of it like that's the stuff I really want to experience again because manner this term is like you're actually knowledge is incredible it's really really good technology it's terrible for an MMO fuckstick really has pulled it out and I really don't like the way you fill areas with NPCs to give it some sort of artificial sense of life when in many ways because of phasing I might be surrounded by like sick I actually never thought of that but he's completely right like I hate I hate positive in a bag I never thought that they added so many NPC's in the BFA that it makes players feel and not realize that the game's dead because you go around and BFA and you're surrounded by like all these other mobs and everything like that like wow I'm in the mind of the Alliance and then you realize there's just one other dude there and he's afk he's like level 116 he's just waiting for you to complete the bar so he can finish his quest and every other you know the other like 50 people there are just random [ __ ] NPCs like I I that's actually like a that's such a good analogy or like analysis I really like that a lot he steals F&C players but I would never know it in order to maintain a smooth operation of the game so that was what I was really interested in and then I got bored and I was like jesus [ __ ] christ man this is the game I fell in love with all those years ago it's the reason like 15 years later obviously I didn't start making content back then voice it's the reason 15 years later I mean I'm sorry you're having this conversation it's because of this this is what sucked me in and many of you know when I first saw world 1 yeah and my friends started getting the beta I was part of a different MMO much more hardcore PvP based MMO sorry it looks lame it looks so lame I'm not into fairies and [ __ ] and elves so when the guys like oh we're running through televisions or fairies and [ __ ] falling for the flash like that's so lame I don't leave it to actually well that's okay this is what we're playing now and I fell in love with it so what is it and the big discussion I'm sure many of you have and I have had this that I'm about to tell you with so many of my friends so many my friends is when you try and describe what it is you love about it it sounds awful it sounds like the absolute worst thing in the world yeah it does I guess you say things like they can watch the stream and they can see people playing the light okay so you went out and you did like you got you enter zone you got like three quests one of them it's because you can show off that you're better than other people when you get to be people like it's being part of a world like that's what it really comes down to is that like BFA and Legion and all these other things all the other expansions be after wrath or games vanilla WoW was a fantasy world simulator you went into vanilla Wow and there is a separate society a hierarchy and a world that you were part of that's the difference was a red quest which you're gonna come back to by the way and it was collect ten [ __ ] board tails or something and use very very hard we're suing that because the drop rate was so bad and during that you would just like auto attacking applying rend you know keeping shouts up you did like five buttons and hotter than that two-hour period can't relate and then eventually you got them and went back and it sounds awful it's like that's if you put it that way it's against how you spin it in context is absolutely everything if you spin it that way yeah it sounds terrible but I had the best time and I had the absolute best goddamn right you do and a lot of it comes back to the complaints I've had about BFA certainly in BFA but I've had this about the game for a long time is that in retail wow I feel like an absolute Janus idol maniac I feel like I should be locked up and put away and why because no matter where I travel in that game I eradicate everything all life dies before my feet Hey just died that's true what character I'm playing doesn't matter what gay level I'm playing yeah I am never ever not God in the game and it bothers me it bothers me yeah actually a lot of different games okay maybe some of you watch YouTube think I've just yeah I definitely don't actually I play a huge variety of games from normal mode easy mode and to extreme hard mode one man I would go from a game like secure oh and have the best time ever and then we'll go and play to point hospital Hospital simulator I don't even know what the hell that place and some story game and we'll play on normal because that's the what I feels the appropriately I hate video games so I like wow ultra hard mode all the time or ultra easy mode all the time these sort of baskets people put themselves in okay move around and I drift from games again depending on what I want to play and when I'm playing an RPG I need them for our PG aspects I need that I look at be a Fae now especially after playing classic and seeing how far we've come and almost this complete 180 as to how the game started so compared to what it is now and you really see you know it's completely different kind RPG simulator sort of where it's like this is like a it's almost like a parody of an RPG it's like well it's got all these checkbox things the RPG should have kind of meaningless and they kind of don't make any sense and don't worry about it because you're the hero of every story that's basically a BFA is meaningless and doesn't make sense but don't worry about it because you're the hero of the story I think that it's really funny that so many people like like preach here van Ruki and I think some other guys do all of these guys have all felt the exact same way and they were very skeptical about classic and now they're coming back into it and they're actually enjoying the game I'm very very happy to see that and it's great to see that and there's so many people that are actually feeling the same way and it gives me hope that the game can actually get better and you go back to a world where you are not the hero in any way shape or form you're not the hero and this will have to kill you and you will lose and this is so important to me as a gamer you will lose and that's what's so vital about it and that creates these environment I give you a grow two miles at a time that's when you lose so let me take that tale of going getting the grave the grave the bore tails for two hours and let me twist it into what actually happens there is the fact is these low drop rates which on live would be unacceptable no yeah people aren't here it's only two hours to do a single quest would be unacceptable in live Wow but in classic well what it allows these people to be out in a world that is considerably more dangerous now this is also been misconstrued about hard what is hard and I see people trying to apply again a retail context to what is hard is it hard that I only have four spells to press no is it hard that the enemies just have Auto Attack no we don't need to break everything now and it's like siege craft of black fuse style mechanics or clacks er Jana where there's just an endless stream of things that can happen to you you have to reacts within milliseconds all the time that makes sense no the jato comes it comes from the father you will lose it's as simple as that you will lose pulling two mobs will get you killed which means you have to be careful out there that's a warrior and towering when you put it like that right of one mob at a time that sounds really boring what it do you know it creates an environment where there's danger there's danger and you need to be careful and it also creates an environment where you're out there for a really long time right you're out in this world for a long time think about how much time you spend out in the open world doing something in an area right now it pause again I want to say something the outcome whenever you do a quest and retail Wow is already determined before you even pick up the quest you know for a fact you're going to be able to complete it it's designed for you to complete it there's never a point where you're ever not going to be able to complete it and I think that the fact that the outcome is guaranteed makes the quest boring now if you can't Rast that to like doing an elite level quest or like a red quest that like you know all the mobs are really really high level that you can barely even do on your own and the difference between the way that makes you feel because you feel like you actually overcame something that you weren't supposed to that's why it felt so bad asked to complete scarlet monastery is because you weren't supposed to do that I think that's the best thing it's typically going to be world quests you're likely to be there from anywhere from 30 seconds to maybe three minutes if that happens to have a low drop rate like it's absorbed as a riot or something like that which is just tedious and that's it you can kind of go on to the next place or you can return to the city where you're perfectly safe all the time this time though you're out in a dangerous world for like two hours you're not going to go back to town you need to stay out in the open world that also means other people have to be there as well because I believe all know that quest this puts a lot more people into an area regularly and it's also a safer journey if you do it together and that's what builds the community so much is you're both are two three four five years whatever it might be wait what no wait a second did he just get that dangerous and you have to worry that you don't have to have to but you both understand know each other are not fans or not that working together towards goal is a far better experience overall that's right a much safer journey and you start helping each other you said it's a smart thing to do some buffs to each other you start saving people when they're going to die I can't think of a single time I've had to do that in years where I have a teamed up with somebody out in the open world simply because it might get my quest done that little bit quicker but you don't know how to lose you share marked X that's my mind a detail out in classic yeah many times you stick around for a little bit longer to help that guy out because you know you gonna be in a really tough situation should you leave and because you're out there in the open world that's when a quest is so few and this is what helps as well the quests are so few that you're probably going to be along the same path for the next little while so you might finish off these bare tails but letting you say some like do you have this one yeah I have this one let's go they go do those together was one single time exactly and it's just amazing [ __ ] yeah it's so much better to play that way because it's not about just the combat like putting putting on your own little boxes like this is the combat this is the quest system this is this which is how we have to look at retail we have to look at it that way blast yeah he's broken down into those components because we can't talk about the immersion of going into vol Doon it's like it's also a I want to pause one thing okay I say this again like let's say you do a quest with another dude and you get all 10 of your merlok heads but the other guys only got eight and then you leave the group you're like a piece and you leave the guy to get his last two heads even though he helped you get all yours there's like a certain amount of guilt that you feel when that and also you see that guy later on and if let's say he's like oh bow 36 and you're 37 you think to yourself is that my fault did I caused him to not level as fast because I left him by himself and so it creates kind of a social contract like there are all these like very very small social contracts and Wow that are all over the place right so like if one person buffs you you buff them if somebody invites you to a group and you do a quest together you're supposed to wait there until both of you are finish with it and all these different social constructs make the game an environment and a world I think the social constructs even though they might sound stupid because they are stupid that's what makes it good it's good because it's stupid where's the quest located where's the rail located all right and that's about it play classic it's like there's two three quests here that'll lead into something later usually lead into some sort of end bus zone and along the way you pick up a look bluer along this journey yep and what has happened yup every single time every single time I can't think of a time this has happened where I haven't had a decent play session in classic is eventually I bumped into somebody who's doing something similar and you'll see a slush tape of I was like are you doing this are you doing that just a minute I've got a sizing yes I've got a pause again not to repeat what preacher said again but I want to pause again respond to something that somebody said in chat it won't happen today not with the community that we have now that's not true that's not true at all even the beta has proven that wrong again it's so it's so clear and evident that it's not a this is not something that is a limited time only thing this is something that the game creates organically and it won't be the same but it'll be a lot closer than we're ever gonna get with BFA of course it's not gonna be the exact same as 2006 but you're seeing the same interactions occur the same people saying the same things feeling the same ways in the same way that they felt 15 years ago I was like do you need help you know this happens is a normal opener and then you'll work it work out together and that's like what else have you got and then you'll work through that together it's like right I've got to log off now cool see you later exactly time you log on you both probably progressed to a point where you're in the next aisle to go and you'll get a whisper you'll see him again where you up to now will you have to and it's not just because I'm preach right yeah me whispering other people as well I've done this I've logged in it's like well where's that dude I was with yesterday one if he's still here wonder what if he's moved on or if I'm just gonna go to a new this is what matters he wants to come with me I've done that on stream it's no lie I've just lots of people I slash shoot the server see who's around recognize people recognize people from past dungeons like do you want to come along because you know that was cool we did that dungeons together I liked what you did there we had a bit of fun do you want to come with me now let's make a group and that's because we can like it does some people like that I've met in class Wow me now I've got to make my own groups [ __ ] yeah okay I'm gonna look at the guys I played with before and have a nice experience with and go with those guys I know yeah it's just bill up this story make it really reinforces to me as to pause again let's talk about something else let's talk about the idea of story I never felt the need to create a story for my character because the actual story in the events that my character went through and the people that I interacted with were a better story than anything that I could ever think up classic Wow creates stories BFA gives them to you why I never fell in love with the Walker story and even though I've tried to I always remember in my head like I just never cared about the story at all and the reason is there is really no story like what I just really care each zone has a story sure story gives a [ __ ] I remember Miz real in her Aarthi I remember little tales like that well my stories are mine and it's the lore of me it's not a lore of the game I didn't need spoon-feeding or yeah just need a big tale to take yes happening in the game [ __ ] the stories I walk I walk away with not just one story but like two or three stories yes fantastic each time I play and sometimes I've stories are incredibly epic but even the ones that aren't incredibly epic is still really good and along the way it's just been getting to know people sending it why did yesterday is I sent potions mana potions that I picked up while I was questing to a different guy who was healing my dungeons a few days ago I was like I'll see ya guys look at that entering them right look at that [ __ ] there you go them and then suddenly a lots of box like thanks like we just that's that's the world it's an is viral and that's what matters and I miss it so [ __ ] much I really do miss it so [ __ ] much because I haven't changed my thought process is that I would rather be playing retail like that there are I'm gonna hit that point in classic where I've done I'm gonna be making good friends I'm gonna be having this chance but it's still gonna be a world I've done before and I just it's made me so sad for retailer like I have to go so far out of my way to try and get a good experience and that's what makes me really sad about it you have to try to have the find adventure it's a hallmark of a good game so limited that well you have to try to have a mythic rating and that's it it comes down to visit rating because literally everything else to get the highest possible rewards whatever is entirely possible it's it's highly probable you only need a +10 mythic nice Pakistani Aleppo Keable and it's nameless and faceless and no communication or anything like that and maybe it's the beta people are being extra nice on the bait set but everything I've experienced has brought the memories that this is how it was what it wasn't I think that it being a beta is probably or else and why things are nicer so those through is a niche thing or a nostalgia driven thing this is how the game was for me originally like that's why I've remembered it's like this is the stuff I used to do sending potions to people who I've done the others with that was something I used to do like it's it's not a case of this is like this little sandbox world that I'm living in where it's just everyone's being nice and nice and it's because it's preach that's this is all stuff I did before my name Matt so anybody ever in the entire world they didn't I think that's true right is because like everybody it's not like things are good that are happening to me is because like I'm a streamer or whatever because you're having dozens of other people coming out telling the exact same [ __ ] stories it wouldn't make sense if it was only happening to me and then you wouldn't have like all these other people telling their stories and then the other people that are on wine that I've talked to that aren't even streamers at all saying the exact same thing that I am I think that obviously because it's a beta and it's a very very closed and smaller community that things have like whenever you have a smaller community social constructs and social expectations matter a lot more because you can't just hover under the radar like you could whenever there's a bunch of people everywhere like in crossrealms zones so I think when actually the the game comes out you will see a lot more toxic behavior but it's definitely going to be a lot closer to the beta than it is in BFA so I think overall it will be positive but yeah the beta is an extra good experience because of that because it's a small tight-knit community that's a-- this is all the things we used to do and this is how I got into guilds and things is like eventually that guy who I set those potions - I did those dungeons with eventually got into a guild and he whispered me he's like yo I've just got into a guild you let me see if I can get you in and that's how it sort of develops and grows but you're doing this with so many different people you're doing this with people that you met in Alta rec these are the people you met in Hills Brad you know the people you met in a Wrath ers TV and fought off you level up together together or you guys don't matter they're all you had a quest to do together well that's this danger element it's it's actually been strange to me to see the game giving me quests and objectives that I that aren't immediately doable I had supposed to do Warcraft the game gave me a challenge that wasn't immediately doable in terms of difficulty so the big one right now on the beta in terms of difficulty because if he didn't say that then you would be like well every single quest it's time gated it's the warrior whirlwind ax quest they give you that quest at level 30 yeah it's realistically like a level 4 I got 35 down there like 36 or 37 weapon which will see you through to like 45 Plus right around 45 until you replace it it's about right but they give it you at level 30 and they give you a piece of parchment telling you what you need to do for it and they trust the player to decide how they tackle this challenge I mean just I want to pause one more time and talk about young Esmond gold who had the quest for the whirlwind ax but I didn't know how to get it because I threw away the parchment because I needed space in my bags so I had no idea what I needed to turn into the guy I I really didn't remember at all I was a I I had no idea I never got my ax that's why I threw it I threw away the grocery list they interest the player to figure out are you going to try this now because you can do this now because we've you know everyone's doing on the beta it's totally possible and it happened back in classic is people would organize teams to go and get this done obvious you can do that oh you can be more solo with it and you can do it over over a period of the next ten levels you can kind of work your way through it and figure it out and ultimately you'll get a great reward but it's down to the player to choose their adventure here's the choice the choice is the objective it's it possible to do this on your own right now no it's not but here it is and if you can figure it out and you can go on a journey or you could do something well you get a badass reward that's what happens can do that yeah there you go can do that right now and it will give you an the reward feel that will be a weapon that will deal incredible damage for the next 15 levels trail that's the reward role should you go out of your way and figure something else out all you can opt to do it a different way you can take your time with it you can work through it over a nice princess one singular goal that you've been looking to over say ten levels which you'll finally give you that big reward and I can't remember the last time wow gave the player that level of freedom to decide how they want to do things what about the watering and the witch expand sure was the last time they were like here's the super hard thing to do you figure out how you do it right you figure it out you leave it it will leave it up to you it's pretty simple mage tower that was the last time and the time before that was the the green fire quest line for warlocks if you want a real answer like those were the two last times and wow what a weird coincidence that those two things are finally remembered as some of the best pieces of content that Lau has come out with in the last five years pull today but you know it's not what a coincidence elf right now it's Wow way bigger than you are so deal with it okay and if you do will reward you appropriately for it which kind of brings us to the gearing thing young things is extraordinary it's so ultra simple upgrades and items are stupidly rare but god damn do they feel good when you get them you're [ __ ] right really good I have you excited right greens I've been it so excited about greens like getting a really nice green with mail it has some its owner out about being excited by three guys I think retailers like I'm a little above that now is it has to meet so many criteria to be awesome yeah and I showed this in the tanking video I did is there are lots of one-handed weapons out there some of them are strengths some of the majority of our swords axes maces but I need not only that I need that to be of a certain speed and a certain type in order to really fit my criteria oh it doesn't work obviously I get the same with the two mini obviously meet certain criteria in order to be attractive and when you get that one good god does that feel [ __ ] awesome you feel really good when you see the item that is properly itemized it's set up nicely even if it's braces those shoulders right there maces from those shoulders you see that mean with some strength on it or some stamina and you're like dude those are [ __ ] awesome [ __ ] you isn't that awesome is it's an immediately noticeable leap forward it's immediately notice you start surviving that little bit longer you start seeing these crits go that little bit higher and that's a big advantage of another complaint I've had about BFA I mean everything I've been arguing about with the BFA and Legion is all becoming back to me now as to why I find this stuff problematic and again it was highlighted in the tank video is yes the gameplay is much slower but the advantage is I know exactly what my character is doing I know exactly what's happening I know which cuz yeah there's white hits yes yellow his right and I only do one ability that's actually true purple very [ __ ] threw a tuck this enemy I don't always get props and all this no no I was just constantly clobbering they're gonna budget away aprox and you know you guys should know how much issue I take with Blizzard just giving us items that do random amounts of damage yeah and saying well technically a DPS tagore it did but it's nothing to do with me and I can't tell it's happening whereas when you're playing classic I know every sunder that's missed hit parry dodged it matters I know every revenge that's worked that way I know everything you spell whether I dodged I know that if I had luncheon [ __ ] boys pop above that head that I know my own past prot so don't need a weaker I don't need [ __ ] on yeah I know that that was my attack I know that it dodged and because it's very clear what's happening with my character when I press the button a clear and easy response to what happened to the to the enemy whether I get a common [ __ ] sense exactly makes sense yeah because there's so much fewer going on but [ __ ] yeah I've done right there's so fewer attacks so fewer attacks yep but I know each you don't need them that's happened I know when I see that big white hit it's because my 200 swung and hits it is going to turn in its beak uhz it's the button I just press oh if I press a heroic strike and I see that big yellow number pop up I know that's my heroic strike so I thence noticeably see the game that my character has made in terms of his damage from those braces because I'll see a larger number appear when I pop the bottom there and big yellow xq pops up and now it's like doing 500 Plus down that's right well before it was doing like for something now we're over 500 and you're meeting these landmarks as you're moving up on your character and then you get a new cape that does the same thing and because it's so tactile in its responsiveness to what it is that I'm doing it makes gear feel so much better overall the whole package getting it feels better equipping it feels better using it feels better and then keeping it going also feels so saying feels better that is good keep that a microsystem like we've been asking keep that in mind I've been asking for for a long time stop stacking goes up with props and fireworks and I compared it to a little bit like risk of rain where you can get so many automatic weaponry that you can stand still and all your automatic [ __ ] will just destroy things around you and safety oh boy basically it's not that fun it's not fun it might look flashy and amazing and what it's like playing Grand Theft Auto whenever you use all the cheat codes right it's fun to go around and you have a rocket launcher in a tank and you're invincible and you can just kill everything in one hit and it's fun for like 30 minutes to an hour and then you quit the game because now it's boring like that's basically what they've done they give people all the things that they want at the beginning and they're not able to attain anything because it's just a repeat of what they already had all this kind of stuff it might look like an entire fireworks displays you enough but it's nothing to do with me in any way I'm now just having a very straight one-to-one tactile feedback over what happens compared to what I did I know that when I go for a hamstring and I see dodge I know I I know that just from the yellow word that that was my hamstring that dodged right and if I just alive I don't know exactly what's going lacks an enemy very and any character I have I see a whole slew of numbers pop up from all difference from thousands to hundreds all this kind of stuff from I don't really know what's doing that damage I have no idea you have seven analyzer that's doing that damage it really highlights how problematic that is in terms of creating a good gameplay experience you don't even know what the [ __ ] you're doing designing complicated there isn't much to dislike you yeah I really do still wish I would like to play retail but retail has a lot of work to do and my biggest fear is of as many as said it is my biggest fear is that Blizzard might and this is my biggest fear this is like being ultra popular again about things is Blizzard mightier about what's happening here and say right we can go all the really gut hardcore guys you like RPGs like heavily they'll go to classic right and that means for the guys who stay with BFA and stay retail Spurs currently plan his current plan is for retail yep is that they will make that ever more casual and mob like mobile phone game friendly because a lot of stuff in retail his ripped from home iPhone games at this point and we've learned that is easier again your god yeah that soon as you arrived going everything inside like the limitation oh boy enforced by gating there's nothing stopping you from just wiping out the entire [ __ ] zone when you got some Najat are awesome Mecca gone you can just destroy everything in sight yeah and yes so that's actually true I can't do that you know Rafi Highlands one day I'll be able to but it's gonna be a while yeah it's just not the case I turn off in an area a new area like the new zones would be yep I'm the classic it'll be places like lights hope chapel and stuff like that and it's like you're not voiding the head you're gonna get your ass kicked you've got to be careful you got to play out and that's so unless you have a four-team an array and it's completely funny might make live a bit more casual friendly because the push the guys who like the RPG stuff over its wall it's classic and it will divide the playerbase undoubtedly this isn't going to be for every obviously you know people are starting to really like being God the people who started playing wow in the later years and they like being God they like being the master of their the master of everything they like not failing right because as I said you really do have to go out your way to bump into difficulty in retail you have to go out of your way to do that and well there's always things in the game they can cross over but some people will just everything else is a [ __ ] jokes this really sucks because they're going to look at it through the eyes of a retail wild player where it makes no sense that a wolf can kill you right this doesn't make sense I just was eradicating a camp full of Nagas just ten seconds ago why am i dying to a wolf now what is this game people will have that mentality and obviously it won't work but there'll be some players who are like oh I get it I get it I get it and that divide it's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out going forward boy here we are right now I'll play classic every single day and leave reads now to rating with the guys because I still love that yup on but the rating is still good it's it's just a better video game in my opinion and that's my summary on it is a video game thank you so much for listening guys there it is I'll see you again bye bye I want to tell a story it was erotic before I before I talk about the video I want to tell a story about this place right here many years ago I got on Jeff's account he was standing in this place free wind post and I was mad at Jeff I forgot why and I walked over to that orc vendor right behind him and I put every single item in the vendor there was a random level 8 character a level 20 character I traded this random character all of Jeff's gold on the very edge of free wind post and jumped Jeff's character off the edge and kill and then made him take res sick and then I went back up there and I killed it again if you knew Jeff you'd know that he deserved it I forgot why he deserved it but he did all right if you knew Jeff you would know that he deserved it 100 [ __ ] percent ok guys you don't know him trust me watch retail player tries tanking in vanilla I don't want to go through a million videos ok so if this is like gonna be something short I might look at it but right now I want to talk about this video obviously preach people like preach are the ones that I think that it's the most important that are converted over to being fans about being classic right because one of his concerns I think is very true right is that whenever classic comes out is that gonna tell Blizzard okay well we'll just make all the hardcore players go to classic and all of the you know slot machine babies play b.fa and I think that might happen I hope it doesn't what I hope happens is that Blizzard realizes and they see how many people like classic and why it's such a good game and then they say hey what the [ __ ] are we doing let's try to make our game more like the one that everybody likes even though it's 10 years ago right and I I don't know really why I don't know if that's gonna happen or not but I do share preachers concern that if they do have two games boys 'red might just start developing classic or sorry BFA and the current retail game to be even more basically a phone game that's totally [ __ ] true and I don't know really what we could even do about that I mean it sounds like something that sucks but what do we really like how do we stop that from happening I don't [ __ ] know the you know they'll be more casual aren't there more casuals and hardcore players well it depends on how you define casual and hardcore right I think that the like classic is a better game for casual players I don't think that like classic Wow is for hardcore players and BFA is for casuals because there's a lot of things in BFA they're much more hardcore than classic ever was I mean you think about farming out your necklace to level 50 by doing the same [ __ ] [ __ ] an expedition fifty times like that's way worse than almost anything else in classic well especially things you actually needed to do right I mean like you could look at the winter spring cross savers and say okay yeah it's not that bad but for the most part I mean a lot of the grinds you have to do in BFA are equally horrible if not even worse than the grants you had to do in classics so this idea that classic is somehow hardcore friendly in a way that BFA isn't is completely [ __ ] stupid and I get why people think that I do but the thing is that what preachers saying about like using your abilities and seeing the impact of your abilities and the impact of your time yes obviously that does favor players that are able to put more time into the game but that's what a game like this is supposed to do and it creates classes of players and it creates aspiration whenever you die to like somebody with really really good gear you can blame yourself you can get mad or whatever or you can try to actually get better you're an outplay them and because there are other ways besides skill to be able to beat people it actually makes the game more casual friendly because there's gonna be tons of people that play classic that [ __ ] suck at it they're always going to suck at it but if they have full tea or 2.5 and let's say like my two minutes though they're still gonna win doesn't matter because they've got really good gear and that's the way that games work I'm counting on it let me tell you that I'm really counting on it and there's plenty of different things like this like what preach is saying like everything he's saying about classic is totally true like I've done this quest right here the cyclone Ian quest like three or four times four different warriors in my guild why have I done it because I felt like if we had more warriors with the whirlwind axe we'd be better as a guild in world PvP I have never helped anybody with a quest in BFA I don't think I ever didn't leave neither why because [ __ ] em who cares it doesn't matter if they can't complete it on their own they suck anyway why would you like what quests would you even be able to hypothetically help somebody do there would be nothing and all of these different things that preach is talking about are completely true and it's the secondary effects that feels right and I know like it's kind of a meme you know like feels over reals but classic Wow proves that [ __ ] is true like that's why ian has to sit there in the in the q and A's and explain why people should be having fun a game should never have to explain to you why you're having fun or why you should have fun people in BFA and current well have to go out of their way to have fun people in classic well have fun by playing the game whenever I play BFA and I level through BFA I get nothing I actually lose things because I'm losing my tears that bonuses and everything else I lose things in classic I level up I gain abilities I'm able to train those abilities and I am in more control of my character I have more agency over the outcome of my gameplay in BFA you are put it's like a theme park but the only problem with BFA and being a theme park is whenever you find a good ride that you like a lot wizard shuts it down every time people figure out like some kind of cool way of doing stuff blizzard shuts it down because they have a very very defined way that they want people to play the game they have created a flowchart probably at Blizzard headquarters of every single checklist that all players should be doing and if people are going outside of that checklist outside of that flowchart they X that box right the [ __ ] out of the entire game fun detected I understand that boy sir doesn't want to have things that are completely opie but the issue is that there's a lot of times like this right like this right here why would somebody go out and kill random like level 37 elite and just spend like probably you probably spent like 10 minutes killing this mom and you know what he got out of it most likely nothing got nothing out of it because you're on an adventure and it's a role-playing game I don't think BFA people don't even treat BFA like the game anymore like I don't know what what would you say that people treat B if they like like I don't know if the right word is for it's not as on a casino I think that that's that's way too two-dimensional like an addiction a chore maybe like a school class I think maybe a like a class in school that would be a pretty good analogy for me right is that you have your you know you go and you do your homework that's your island expeditions and then you do your in-game classwork that's your mythic plus dungeons and then uh-oh finally let's see what you've learned in your classwork in your homework here's the raid and that's your final exam or you know your test that you're taking in the class I feel like you can go on and on with the metaphors and the only difference there obviously is you don't have like the random generators that BFA has but I mean like yet I think it's either a habit a checklist but the last thing that I would call it would be a game if the blizzard devs are not sitting here watching all of these people change their perspectives on classic and feel the same way that I'm sure why that's the worst part man is that a lot of these boys are devs probably started playing Wow and that inspired them to work at Blizzard like just go back and remember why you love the game like that was Jo Jo and Brock I think he played Wow before he worked at Blizzard right Alex after sabi Tom Chilton I think as well Jeff Kaplan Ian husk hostess all of these guys play I mean like why did you play the game like it's just neckbeard quiz season four is out do it we'll see what happens okay man they play mobile games now well that's the thing right is like and a certain point like if you don't have the same Drive in the same aspiration and the same want to play games like this I don't think that you should be developing them anymore right it's the same as like raiding like back whenever I was young I was like in Burning Crusade Rathod of which game Cataclysm I had a drive to raid that was extremely strong I would never miss a raid why would miss rage on bosses I didn't he live from but besides that I would never miss a raid I would always show up I would be completely buffed up I would be ready to go and I would know everything about the fights before I even went in and as time went on I stopped caring I got lazy and I just it didn't matter to me anymore like why would it matter who gives a [ __ ] that there's a point where the wheel of time turns and sometimes it's time for people to ride out into the sunset and not come back and for me and rating that's what happened to my Sargeras I rode out into the sunset I was done and I didn't come back if people don't have the same Drive and the same love for the game that they used to and they're playing mobile games all the time instead of playing the game that they're supposed to be developing and you know making better then I think that they should look at finding people that actually do have that drive and at least having those people if nothing else inspire the ones that used to have the drive to get it back because I don't think like any of the developers are I don't think any of them want to destroy the game I just feel like they don't know what they're doing because they're looking at the game from an analytical spreadsheet perspective and they're not looking at the game from the perspective of what what is it that motivates someone like you look at this this screenshot right here this picture right here preach is the only person that's really getting anything out of this all the rest of these players are just helping preach and I'm sure some of them and like for me example like what do I really get out of helping somebody else on their whirlwind acts or getting some sort of item I don't really get a whole lot out of it at all but it matters to me still and I think that's really what makes the big difference streamer privilege well no see that's the thing is like you can always write these things off but why do I go back turn around and return the favor to somebody who I don't even know who their foot well I don't even know what they look like like why would I do that to some random person on a beta what causes somebody to do that it's content no I'm not even doing it on stream I'm doing an off stream like friendship streaming young public image what from one guy who cares you guys can try and write it off with some sort of you know self-centered you know self-serving goal but the fact is that there's something a lot deeper than that that's happening and there's a lot of people probably that haven't played classic that won't understand that enjoyment yeah I don't know man some of us really care yeah exactly this video was really good I liked it a lot I thought it was a great video and I hope preach makes more of these videos oh wait let me read some some comments here and I'll take some responses I'm no streamer and I do this would you still help would they still would you still help if you were level 16 yeah what else was I [ __ ] do like I'm only gonna queue Bee Gees for a few hours a day then I'm gonna probably get bored of that and I want to do something else when the game is hard that makes you have to interact with other people and whenever you're out in the dangerous world you need allies and you know it's kind of like maybe if you want to look at it as not completely an altruistic thing you're paying it forward you're helping them so whenever the time comes they'll help you that's what it is you have any concerns with faction balance on servers yeah I think so I do I don't know really how bad it's going to be but of course I'm worried about that of course it could happen problem is Activision slash corporate structure well that's the issue right is it like all of these corporate structures and everything are creating the decisions that are ruining the game I think that a lot of the decisions and things that happen in WoW are done because of some sort of corporate decision right there's some sort of thing like okay well because there are this many people that are enjoying this content even though everybody says they [ __ ] hate it they're doing it so it must be good let's do it again right and they're just making decisions based off of spreadsheets like that's the real issue check Ian's armory well I mean the thing is like I mean he could have other characters too i mean i'm fully i i i I think Ian actually plays the game like I don't think that yen just doesn't play the game at all I mean like and even if he doesn't play the game at all I keeps the game director like he's gonna he's gonna be [ __ ] busy like I mean he's basically like the CEO of wow like yeah he's not gonna have a whole lot of time but there are plenty of other devs and I'm sure probably don't play the game hardly at all like I wonder how many devs work on well that don't have a character at max level you know what I mean

Channel: Assertonsin [Asmongold Stream Reactions]

Views: 55,803

Rating: 4.8394494 out of 5

Keywords: asmongold, BFA, WoW, asmongold reacts, reaction, asmongold highlights, best of asmongold, twitch chat, world of warcraft, classic wow, vanilla wow, Preach Gaming, Preach, asmongold watches, battle for azeroth

Id: hiOIz3piqwE

Length: 49min 3sec (2943 seconds)

Published: Tue May 28 2019