"Ask Us Anything - Your Questions Answered!" | POWER HOUR | Ep.149 - 4 May 2021

[Music] [Music] [Music] come [Music] [Music] me [Music] good afternoon par our family what a joy to be with you today and you will notice that today i have my husband for the very first time ever it's a miracle hello do you know it's taken me a full year to get him onto this side of the camera and he's full of wisdom and brilliance in fact we would say probably most of us in the staff team would say uh david is the most intelligent person we've ever met i think we would we would all nod and say that and uh this man is certifiable genius you know i might be a little bit biased but um he prepares his stuff written down so to get him speaking it is nearly miraculous how are you sarah jane i'm super well thank you yes great to be with you both i've got a bit of an echo i can hear myself talking back to me i don't know if that's you it's emma yeah cool yeah it's absolutely a delight what a tr what a treat to be with david and emma in the same place and um with uh david's headphones on we normally see him back of house doing the chat pre and post don't with but yeah i'm excited to hear the wisdom from the start today good stuff so i did um a complete step of faith yesterday and reorganized my summer and winter shoes and put away my winter boots and brought forward my summer shoes and had you know is this wrong i don't know whether i need help or ministry for this but i put some shoes on and i felt so so happy and so in love with some of them and i was oohing and i my boys were sitting gaming they were they were doing for playing fortnight in the next room and i kept walking in boys do you remember these ones and they're like whatever mother you know you know go away we're playing our xbox you know so and then as soon as i walked out of the house the heavens opened and i regretted open-toed sandals within about five seconds so but it's a statement of faith in glasgow isn't it it is it's been raining like cats and dogs as we would say yesterday it was terrible literally torrential rain you didn't want to go outside yesterday here it was well yes but yes i was happy seeing some of those shoes and i was going i remember those i remember those i remember those on instagram and i was kind of remembering how old that's when you need a friend to go like the kids do now on snapchat and send a little video going this is my outfit if you just said to me sj look do you remember these shoes that have been like i do remember those shoes because we've bought a fair few sets of pairs together haven't we yes but i don't want them online because i'm like i'm so desperate for some new shoes i'm sorry you know it's not a material world that we live in you know but new shoes i get excited about new shoes new shoes new notebooks and new colors and new fabric that's what makes my mouth water and i get excited about that i'm excited some issues are arriving today online because i can't get to any shops from the middle of scotland there's nothing here so i'm just going to go to the shops good good whereas our husbands we'll talk about one of them like they're not even here if they if we get them out of one or two pairs we're doing incredibly well i actually say to my husband i am fed up seeing those on your feet can you please buy something different yes one pair of shoes nearly the whole of lockdown i think alice has won sat one pair of sandals and one pair of merrell kind of trainer type hiking shoes for nearly the whole of lockdown and i'm saying you have to get back into your brogues who would have thought i would have said that because allison did nothing but wear brogues the same pair he would buy it for the last 10 years the same pair from the same shop in the same size and the same color i mean yes yes so um david tell us about your shoes so glad you asked emma you know well i did have my wellies on this morning because it was raining so much and i was walking the dog at whatever time in the morning and it was so cold so i did have my wellies on and um i'm so used to wellington boots for those who don't know what wellies are no i think americans call them rubber boots or gums gum i don't know is that an old-fashioned i think rubber boots we call them welly boots yeah so i had them on and oh they felt heavy after um being indoors and um and i was like oh but more but more apart to you because you your alarm went off at half four this morning to take our elite sportsman's son oh you were at the pool for 5 a.m 5 a.m to 7 00 a.m you were at that swimming pool well you were marching the dog around in the dark in in the rain uh in basically in the middle of the night and then when you came back you cooked our our son a whole fried breakfast and scrambled eggs and all of this to replace all his lost calories i was like that man is something else i can smell it coming up the stairs yeah part of the problem is that i do that um for myself as well that's what i was getting for breakfast yeah i don't do the elite sports but by the i eat the breakfast of an elite sportsman but you do want the dog joey gets her walk right you get out there she does burn off some calories yes there's a little bit there yep good good okay let's jump into our spiritual content we have been loving the oh there's time for something spiritual looks on production today it is before we get too into shopping uh we um we asked you on instagram and facebook any questions and boy you amazing people you did not disappoint you have asked us can i say quite literally hundreds of questions some of them very personal and we really appreciate your honesty some just amazing some downright strange so uh you guys are fascinating in your breath and your diversity so and we're just gonna start with the ones that we think oh yes we've actually got a helpful answer to that we we don't know all think david might know a lot of things but we don't know all things so we're going to do today and next thursday just bashing through that list and see where we get to and some of them we deliberately haven't talked about publicly because some of them are actually quite controversial but of course you won't let us get away with with hiding what we feel about the vaccine or hiding what we feel uh you know about all those injections that are not semi-mandatory in our country so i thought at one point oh we'll just not talk about the vaccine because it's so controversial but no you have given us a whole page of vaccine questions so shall we start off with the vaccine and shall we uh alienate at least half of you not intentionally but uh we'll we'll do our best to be biblical uh but uh we'll start we'll start off there and uh don't stone us in the comments if you disagree okay well i david you want to start and i'll come in the back or will i start you coming in the back because you have lots of thoughts uh on on on the big question on the vaccine or whatever you're starting you're starting there i thought you were gonna start on the do you like chocolate or not but no you're straight you're straight in on the big question yeah yes do you want me to start and then i'll yes go on yeah i'll start and then david will jump in and keep us right huh i think we gotta look at two things when it comes to this first of all is we have different cultural approaches and we have some cultures that are uh absolutely focused on my rights and individual rights the empowerment of the individual and those nations tend to be more right in their uh politics kind of center right and and on that spectrum and they really believe i get to choose my rights and of course they start off with an inherent suspicion about anything that is mandated they start off with a predisposition to be close-minded to anything that looks too much like control or an agenda being thrust on them or forced on them so you gotta know that you start from a cultural perspective some of the rest of you and in fact some entire nations start off more on the left of the political spectrum and those on the left of the political spectrum start by thinking oh what is my societal responsibility and so those who start with what is my societal responsibility think oh i don't mind paying a price for society because paying a price for society and the common good i do that all the time even if it costs me so we start from a right based uh uh how dare you i will have my rights don't you dare or we start from a society i'm prepared to pay the cost okay so at that moment i think it's worth saying that sorry i'm getting echo too today it's funny not being behind the scenes um the that that those two approaches we'll have in in the comments and those of you watching today some of you will be um you've said left and right um communitarian and libertarian whatever your language is for that we'll be on both sides and on whatever side what i would encourage you as you as you watch and listen to it is things and i be you will learn from people who hold the other opinion so if we're on the thing of um that more cycle and think about can i learn from those who are more individual and the other way around if i'm more individual can i learn from those who are more uh societal and and so think about it like that let's not have an argument who's right who's wrong which side should christians be on but actually how can we learn from each other in this how can we examine do i have a preconceived prejudice or cultural eye lens to this um as we go okay so then we so we just have to understand we've got a cultural defect fault we've got a political default now then you layer that with some scripture okay and i would go straight to romans 14. and it says this one person's faith i'm reading directly this is verse two one person's faith allows them to eat anything remember the big conversation in the early church is do we eat food sacrifice to idols or not is it cleaner is it unclean but we we lift this principle and we apply it one person's faith allows them to eat anything but another's whose faith is weak eats only vegetables the one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the ones who does for god has accepted them all and so this is the place where the the word of god is saying do you have faith for it do you have faith for it and so you don't judge those who don't but we go to romans 14 we ask the question do you have faith for the vaccine and so paul is really saying i think there if you have faith for something take it if you don't have faith for something don't take it but you don't judge because god has accepted all now interestingly this pushes on verse 5 is straight out of scripture verse 5 one person considers one day more sacred than another others consider every day alike each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind okay so what that is saying is look some of you follow every festival every feast day you are really rigorous in your observance of things but some of you don't follow any of them because to you every day is holy and that gives this great grace from god to do it according to your faith all right so let's nail our colors to the mask in fact verse 12 go and read the whole of romans 14 verse 12 then goes on to say each of us will give an account of ourselves before god yep so um yeah have i had the vaccine yes because i have faith for it i had mine a few weeks ago has sarah jane had the vaccine yes she's got faith for it is david getting the vaccine you've not had it you're getting yours tomorrow at half 12. so have we had the vaccine yes no why is that because we have faith for it and because we happen to be more in that societal responsibility mindset and even if there's a weakness in that we're prepared to go with that and run out with the consequences of that because we have faith so that i hope that answer question david i'll add to that yeah another encouragement alongside that is um when you're making decisions about anything use holy s spirit discernment do not use fear if fear is in any part of your thinking you need to stop yourself and and spend time with the holy spirit get yourself back to that place of faith get yourself back to again as emma says what do i have faith for so you're making decisions based on faith of the holy spirit faith in god trusting god and not fear um there's a lot of fear i've even seen it in the comments for you about this fear but that speculation on this and that and some of it comes to do with some and rather skewed interpretations of of end times things which which makes people suspicious but actually you need to you need to step away from all fear step away from um places that are making you fearful and that includes some videos that you might watch online and go back to the holy spirit and say holy spirit settle me in my spirit about the decision that i'm taking um can i just address one um comment that has come up in the in in the the in the comments um and that is about um are the vaccines um full of aborted fetuses um now i'm not a medic but i do um i am passionate about science i studied science for many years i have spoken to scientists i've researched a lot but you need to do your own search and research from trustworthy reliable sources on this um the uh and and i'm obviously pro-life as well when i when i say this the some of the vaccines don't involve fetal cells at all uh they are not involved in that the pfizer vaccine in the uk is mrna it's not fetal cells at all other vaccines are taken from a cell line from the i think it's the kidney of a child who was aborted in the 1970s in the netherlands and the oxford vaccine is that so what scientists did was they took the cells from a child who had died we don't know whether they were deliberately killed by the mother or whether um yeah i mean yeah that's really really really really important abortion was illegal at that point so it's unlikely to have been abort an aborted baby come on guys we got to be a little bit more academically intelligent you can't just say oh there's abortion in it there's an abortion in it when actually abortion wasn't even illegal so they wouldn't have been using that it what it did it didn't exist but remember remember i used to work for um a pregnancy care charity as my first paid job remember what do you call early days miscarriage what is the medical term for a miscarriage spontaneous abortion you've got to know these things so when they're taking a spontaneous abortion that is actually miscarriage so actually you're taking for something that the body has lost yeah but but yes okay we're going places i'm not sure i'm happy to go but yeah and and in terms of what people are are saying about that they're killing babies and putting them into the vaccines that's not what's happening there was a tragedy and whether that was a man-made tragedy or a there was a tragedy at the start of all this and they took the a cell line from that kidney of that belt um back then so there you have a moral dilemma on that am i happy with that am i not but that's the question around one of the vaccines there yeah i think the other thing is somebody in the comments is saying don't you believe god protects you of course he does but god has protected me many times through the gift of medicine medicine is not the absence of god medicine is the is often the gift of god and i think god loves healing spontaneous miracles as much as he loves the skilled hand of a surgeon and i think to god medicine is not second rate or second best i think what god doesn't like is when we come to him second i think god says you come to me first and i'll guide you in are we in spontaneous miracle or are we in the miracle of the intelligence of the surgeon i've had eight lots of abdominal surgery over my life i am thankful to god for the medicine that he has allowed to come on planet earth we go into it with prayer we go into it with due diligence as long as god is for first and i am and i have the faith for uh that oh well that was interesting in the comments wasn't it your salvation is even being questioned somebody's saying i'm not even a proper christian marvelous sir jane let's hear your voice why don't you read another one of the questions and let's go a different direction okay awesome um i think there was a few questions on economic shaking and we we probably want to go to the another big theme of the season that we're in with the prophets prophesying about the shaking continuing and so we've seen last year and the whole pandemic that we're still seeing across nations being affected such as india and brazil etc etc more than we are right now here in the in the uk the british isles and elsewhere what other shaking is going on and a couple of you had specific questions i can't actually remember the exact wording but it was something like is the economic shaking affecting north america uh or alone or other nations as well and there was also is the economic shaking still continuing and there was other questions around that the lord is saying that the the economic shaking continues we are at the beginning of the breaking of the ground and the breaking of the foundations of the economic structures on the earth and we are in a process where god is saying i am tearing down and i am uprooting those foundational pieces uh from even previous reformations of economics even over i feel like the last thousand years where we've come in as human beings to say what's most important is where i make wealth and i can make a profit and so we saw things like um andrew carnegie in 1889 for example who wrote a paper uh which has been termed as the gospel of wealth and we saw all of our trajectory over make money make profit and give your profit away philanthropically if that's philanthropically um be generous and change society and i feel like the lord is saying actually it's the end of those days where where wealth in a few hands made a difference to society and we're flipping things around he's saying where we're coming to the economics of mutuality to get there there is a shaking of foundations there is a breaking of foundations so you'll be feeling under your feet personally or you should be how am i managing my personal finances where am i putting my money what am i earning financially and what am i doing with that what give me a new vision for the mutuality of economics that is coming to the earth and is on the earth now what is economic spirituality mutuality means who am i benefiting and people and what land am i benefiting because it's the leviticus 25 model of jubilee economics it's about giving land rest and giving people rest and so there's too much of that teaching probably um that we can go into uh in a shallow way right now but we can teach on that more another time if we need to but there's that sense of actually the lord saying the foundations of what has been built on personal wealth sustaining personal wealth those structures that have said profit is the aim wealth is the aim god is shaking and nations that have put their hopes in wealth for solutions like andrew carnegie's sprays of the gospel of wealth money is where it's at the lord is saying to us nations uh who rely on money and wealth will not save nations in this hour and it's the economics of mutuality where we're at so expect that shaking to continue through this decade expect that shaking to continue beyond this decade and actually be asking the lord how do i steward my finances and what what are we to do with them it is all all new in that regard as we enter into this new era the shaking will continue in all nations and it will manifest in different ways and so we will see china become the joseph of nations god is giving china um a a solution to help nations economically now we can see that as a threat and go china's trying to control things or we can see as what i believe it is another controversial thought guys that actually god is using china to save nations from themselves where wealth has become the dominant goal and so this this communal wealth process of economics of mutuality is a journey i believe that we're going on as the people of god over this next decade into 50 years and i won't be around i don't think uh when we see the fullness of this coming out the other end but we are on that journey how about this haven't we as church and as church leaders you know we enter into that thought as well but as business people myself and my husband and and david and emma you've worked in corporate world and and and and salaries in that in that way where people church leaders particularly look at business people and think actually i need your money power yeah i need your money power and there's this warped sense of what the money can do and what money can do to shape things and actually god is saying people of god step back yes i'm giving you resources but where you have said this is how i will change things money has power i think we've probably all thought that because that's our cultural norm in the west the lord is saying i'm shaking that i am shaking that i am resetting your thought about finances and so expect that to come to you personally expect it to come to your own sense of how we deal with our own resources home money salary uh what we own and and think god give me the mindset of the economics of mutuality which is leviticus 25 of how can i bring rest to people and how can i bring rest to land and what does that then look like when we think about what is in our hands so there's yeah there's a lot to say on that but that would be my top line brilliant sergeant david do you want to jump in on that really i mean these are deep deep thoughts because of the nature of the re uh set that god is doing right across the face of the earth and we are going to see china rise as a par uh in the world and we are going to see the west uh in a diminishing place and and that i do think god is behind and god is backing that uh and that is massively challenging for those of us in the west who want to lead and to want to be in front and we want to be in charge and we want to be in control and we want our greed and we want our individualism and we want our rights and we want our independence and we want our superiority and we want to subjugate other nations and we want to have it our way and we want trade deals that bless us only and we want to be able to have that colonial mindset still in us that we might rape other nations and that they might you know or how high does your quality of living actually need to go i mean how many cars do you actually need that are elite you know and so on this god is saying i actually am going to shake the west because the west has been greedy independent and individual and not been a good elder statesman in the blessing of other nations and we have an ugly ugly ugly colonial pass an ugly colonial pass all of the western nations and i do believe that god is saying look i'm going to move the balance of power because you have sinned now does that mean china is beautiful and brilliant and clean and pure absolutely not but the whole way through the history of the world god uses unrighteous war unrighteous wars and he has unrighteous people fight unrighteous people and whoever is the least unrighteous wins so nobody is saying oh china is pure we're just saying we are really unrighteous and are going to come into a diminishing place because of it yeah and we've got to be ready to be um have our our thoughts and our opinions shaken you know the current the status quo right now suits us it suits us it suits me it suits my ministry it suits my lifestyle to have the status quo stay as it is for the next i don't know how many hundred centuries great very we'll be very blessed here in scotland our ministry will be very blessed we'll do what we did we'll do it bigger and better and bolder with more lights and more sounds but but that's not how we're to be as christians we're to hold our hands everything that we hold in our hands and say to god will you shake me will you sift me will you will you clean my hand show me what's impure in my heart show me other ways so when there is a time of shaking like sarah jane is is talking about we shouldn't be desperate to hold on to things as they always were because that must be the right way we must always and if our hearts bristle at that and i know that some of our hearts tuberous lactic mind does when you hear things about the eat my heart goes wait but wait a minute what will that mean for what will that we have to say oh my heart bristled there am i holding on to something too strongly it's the same when the prophet says something else like earlier in the in the conversation when when you say something and it causes you after 149 episodes of traveling with these prophets suddenly the prophet says something that you disagree with and you're ready to throw everything out because you're about to really yes i mean it's so good yeah it's not good you've got to ask yourself why why am i holding on to something and god would you help me examine myself that doesn't mean we're right or wrong but it does mean that you've got to examine yourself on it and someone just asked um the economics of mutuality that you mentioned sergey and is that different from how is that different from philanthropy and and i think what the economics and mutuality does is give them the the ability to um survive and thrive into the hands rather than it being handouts but the ability to to thrive sir journey yeah no so the you know what we would have thought of as capitalism and actually what we've all gone and cheered about is you know make profit make profit and give it away you know be as rich as you can be as wealthy as you can and we've all probably done a happy dance um as much as we can yeah we've got to be as rich as we can or even our churches and we've all done a happy dance when we've had wealthy people join our churches i think we have to out that and say we have we've said you know great we can now maybe afford this or we've gone to to wealthy christians or we've looked you know who knows a wealthy christian so we can ask them for money that you know it's not that it's not that it's completely wrong but god is shifting the agenda where and where we have said that's mine you know and i'm gonna give it away the lord is saying no that's mine that's mine and i'm gonna give it away and i think we we have done this and as you're talking about it david i feel that we have done this a lot and said i'm having it this way and i'm happy to have it this way but god if you're saying now that actually if i can't have it to give it away and you're doing things differently the mutuality aspect is not what is how do i make the best profit it is two questions that come first it is how do i bless and give rest to people and how do i bless and give rest to land god you know where do i put my money um well your money how do i steward that and what does that look like and let me tell you i've been on this journey for some months i've had my heart bristol god said to me i want you to pray for asia the continent of asia and he started to show me his heart for asia and what he was doing in china what he was doing in that whole realm of the world god is showing us that east gate of nations is his focus right now it's not that other nations aren't important but he's saying look people of god look at what i'm doing i want you to pray and i want you to hear and i want you to see what i'm saying about china and asia and let me tell you it will make you bristle more than you ever did thought you you thought you had the pure-hearted uh sort of intentions of god until you start praying for a nation that you fee you have been programmed and almost like culturally washed to think that's our enemy that's our enemy god said in one time we were praying china is not your enemy china is not your enemy he kept saying it over and over again and and i was i was literally like david said bristling at the thought but when you put yourself in that position say lord if you've got the thought of a nation as an enemy or a person as an enemy ask the lord for his heart for that person or for that nation you will change your perception your cultural dna in that situation and your instinctive response will change and so you know you look at the gates is you look at the bezos is and what god is even doing with them we we see melinda and bill gates in the news today about their marriage breaking up see these as signs of what god is doing he is drawing our attention to the way of philanthropy that was profit profit profit give it away change society andrew carnegie famous for that he was born up the road for me and john framley this is about anybody can make difference in society think how do i bless people and how do i bless land yeah i think this it's real this is really really really tough and hear what we're saying do we like what we're what god is telling us do we like what god is telling us no we don't are we bristling inside yes we are does this mean that god doesn't love all nations no does it mean god stops having a plan for america or the british house no of course it doesn't does it mean that god doesn't want us to be safe no no he won't of course he wants us all to be saved but we have squandered our leadership in the world with our greed and we have led for a thousand years of history do you not think that's good enough that god actually says another mindset and another cultural approach now needs to challenge the world so we are we are we are prophesying not because we like it but because god is saying it that there will be the rise of china as a part and the rise of asia and he will bless that and the west will not stop stop existing but it will diminish in its role uh as being the center of planet earth yeah not easy is it oh no i mean i actually just taught on a private channel how long did i teach them 30 nights are doing two hours on this i know it was intense and i did say to david this morning do i just need to do a special broadcast to explain this really strongly for but you'd have to listen to my voice for about two hours for me to do it justice if you want me to do two hours of teaching on exactly why this is happening more than i can do in 20 minutes here i might do a special broadcast but not if you're going to stone me for doing it okay yes yes yeah tight stones uh because actually uh does that mean we'll be communists i don't think so i think their cultural ideas will start to uh shape us um uh you see see tell me this what chinese or asian worship leader are you following because they have a completely different way to stewarding the presence of god we only know how to approach the presence of god through a western way don't we we we only follow western worship leaders we only follow western teachers we've actually completely dismissed how the asians find jesus we've dismissed how the asians read scripture we've dismissed how the asians worship completely different mindset totally totally different mindset because we think ours is the only way right the west is getting reformed china is also getting reformed and their economy structure is getting reformed there's a whole new way that god is bringing but he's going to bring it through china so what you see there isn't necessarily what is going to get replicated it is being shaped even now this economics of mutuality but because china has the fertile ground because they think about people in the way that some of us don't like god's saying i'll use them and i will show you the model from there wow wow so now that um uh now that we've done the covert vaccine and the rise of china shall we there's some other controversial questions i you didn't give us an easy ride with these questions oh you can understand why we've kept some things to ourselves but you asked shall we shall we have some nice questions before i pick out another controversial one uh uh there are great questions on delivering children of demons but david you have a little pet hobby horse in here uh somebody has asked how do you deal with um uh people who are cessationalists now cessationalism is the belief that uh prophecy is not allowed it's unscriptural tongues are not allowed that god doesn't you know work in miracle signs and wonders or prophecy anymore and actually quite a lot of the church still hold those beliefs uh that those things ceased the things that we build our lives around that those things ceased at the end of the early church so somebody's saying i say something on climate change do you know i have a whole teaching on climate change but ah even i might not go there so uh not today uh on climate change but david do you want to answer the question on sensationalism that the gifts ended at the end of the early church yes i i i'm not sure this is necessarily um another non-controversial subject because i'm i'm going to be more bold and i perhaps have been over the course of the last 20 years and the reason i say the last 20 years is because i was sensationalist i was brought up in a a very strongly sensationalist culture and scotland as a nation is died in the world cessationalist as a as a thing but actually what what was probably more accurate was um i i didn't know that there was any gifts or even much about the holy spirit so it was more ignorant than actually being anti-something because i didn't even know about the thing that i was auntie about but certainly if you'd gone deeper into the doctrines that i was brought up with i was i was broadly cessationist gifts had ceased the signs wonders and miracles that we read about in scripture had had them had ceased and that's how i was brought up and it wasn't until um i started to meet people who believed a different opinion that i started to look again at scripture and i was like well this is all in my bible this is the book i believe and i am going to start to believe in it and it was a it was a fair old wrestle in our in our student years or our late late teens and and early 20s emma and i wrestled over these things ourselves and and um but what i would say in answer to the question what do i say to someone who is who is challenging me on this is that for a long time i think we who believe in the gifts of the spirit who believe in the power of the spirit who believe that science wanders miracles the signs of the kingdom are for today we've been on the back foot and felt that we have to justify our position and we have been called the heretics actually the truth is that cessationists are the heretics if ever there was they are the ones i i'm look they're my brothers and sisters in christ uh this is not uh this is not something that um i would still take a bullet for them i'm for sure but we've got to start being more positive about what the bible says about um miracle signs wonders healings the signs of the kingdom and and actually there are there are three or four if even that one plus two three four sort of verses there are proof texts that people use to try and justify that these things don't happen nowadays but they're it's it's it's simply uh the case that they are proof text taken out of context to try and justify something that actually is based on i don't see it happening with my own eyes so therefore it can't be true and i will build a theology around it we have to be more positive about what the bible actually says about what is what is possible and the early church fathers all believed this justin martyr irenaeus gregory um augustine he changed his mind he wasn't initially but he you know this is this is not something that is new to the the last century no absolutely and i think what fascinates me is uh in revelation i've talked about revelation 11 when you get the rise of the two prophets that god actually has in his end times calendar you asked us a lot about the end times but we'll not do that today because that requires whole par r's but in god's end time calendar he does raise profits up to steward his word in the nations it's part of god's end time plan and i think there is that sense of you know you will completely and have no ability to work with that if you don't believe prophecy is for today is how god works in the latter days of the earth and these prophets who rise up and of course you will have heard me say many times that actually what what what i feel we're doing is creating the culture and creating the environment where profits of that kind of substance can start to have a hope of growing so that god has got profits on the earth when he needs them for that moment so that's a massive motivation for me so uh i i think david you're right that the we don't need to prove anything i think cessationists do need to come up with some better more biblically robust uh arguments i think i think they need to answer here's here's some a scripture um to perhaps that will help the the person asking the question um someone who argues from the other the the opposing point we'd need to um address james chapter 5 verse 13. is anyone among you in trouble let them praise anyone happily let them sing songs of praise is anyone among you sick let them call the elders of church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the lord and the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well the lord will raise them up if they have sinned they will be forgiven therefore confess your sins to one another and then he goes on because he knows that what he said is controversial he knows that he'll get kicked back and he says elijah was a human being even as we are he prayed earnestly that it would not rain and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years again he prayed and the heavens gave rain and the earth produced its crops my brothers and sisters if any of you should wonder from the truth that someone should bring that person uh back remember this and and and he goes on james is dealing with the argument there he says elijah was was not just special he was a human being even as we are and he did these miracles so you know just one scripture where james addresses that problem um there's there's great resources d.a carson uh gordon fee jack dear wayne grudem sam storms um great writer craig there's there's lots of heavyweight theologians who can help um with that heavyweight respected theologians who will help us great whoo sarah jane do you want to pick another one we've got some questions about deliverance we could do those sure um there was a there was one actually specifically that we both i think um had highlighted them which i think is is relevant for anybody really who has somebody who's suffered with trauma in their lives and what do you do when your 18 year old needs deliverance from trauma from sexual assault that that was a very specific question and i think and everyone and i had seen that one and thought yeah actually we can talk into that because it's not just for that one question and one that one person but many many people have suffered with trauma even in this last year and many people have suffered with um abusive trauma sexual abuse or verbal verbal and physical abuse and so what do you do when you have had this this trauma appear i think going back to the first question we don't disregard help that we can get that is outside of spiritual we we don't want to over spiritualize everything and just say it's all spiritual and root because there are great resources out there we will get to the spiritual bit but i think what's important to say is we do rely on things like talking therapy and counseling you know we do rely on things like you know if somebody is depressed because of trauma then they go and talk to the doctor about antidepressants because there can be a chemical imbalance that needs antidepressants so we don't disregard what's available help outside of the spiritual world and outside of the spiritual context we look at everything that is available to somebody who's had a traumatic experience but i think spiritually specifically then we can do a number of things first of all we can bind shock and trauma whether the person is a christian and giving their lives to jesus or not we can bind it and say you know i bind shock and trauma on this person and off this person's body and life and that is a very effective prayer that gives people space to be able to move out of the initial phase if you will of the onslaught of mental emotional and physical responses to trauma and and so binding that is is a really good thing uh you bind the strong man first we read that as a biblical principle the second thing i would say is if they if they know jesus or they don't and they're willing to meet with jesus that is a great place to start yeah and just pray with them to uh invite jesus to meet with them and we can be amazed and surprised at how many people who've never seen jesus never experienced him are immediately aware of him in proximity to their physical frame and to their heart and to their emotions and their spirit and that even some of them who have never seen anything in the spirit before or sensed anything in the spirit before immediately they're aware of him and so the closer the proximity of jesus to them the easier it is to get healed and there is that sense of inviting jesus to meet with them is a great place to start and emma do you want to comment on any of that yeah i mean yes there's a question tied with it can can children need deliverance the answer is yes and if so how do you deal with it age appropriately let me talk through that and i think an 18 year old because of course i have an 18 year old you're on that cusp aren't you although technically you're an adult there's still a lot of things that need to grow inside you so i want to comment on both of those and i actually rang my around my daughter earlier and said can i tell some of her story she was really badly bullied at the first primary she said yes the first primary so it was your tiny tiny uh uh little one at that time and so age appropriately i would have done two things first of all i would have said to her let's just draw you and we would have just got the pens like we draw we color in the shape that jessica is i've done this for many many many children over the years i don't want them to see the demon i don't really want to to name it a demon at that point but i want them to say where is that sore thing where is where give it a color give it a shape and draw it where's that pain where's that hurt now very often for a child i've never met a child who couldn't do this i know that there's something stuck in me here i know that and i sometimes they'll name it fear anger trauma but children often don't it's just i'm sore very often it's just i'm sore okay that's all that they can express either pain so we're identifying it why do i want them to identify it because i want them to know when it's gone and i want them to be able to replace it with jesus so i need to lead them to the place where they actually have a little bit of an eyes on now as they get older uh and we move out of the coloring in phase i will say do a holy spirit mri scan look down your body tell me where the sorba is tell me where the pain is in your body people tell you all sorts of weird and wonderful places very often it's over sexual organs and that would indicate a certain sort of trauma but very often you know the children will say it's on my right leg you know or it's on my arm a lot of it it's in the heart too now at that point you're identifying something of the demonic and you're probably identifying an emotional wounding and they need two different approaches the only way the only only only way you can get them fixed is if jesus can take the place of that getting that thing off them is the easy bit i bind you in jesus name get out in jesus name i lift that off you any demonic rawness any demonic trauma now you and i can do that just like that because we have authority in the name of jesus this skill is not shifting the trauma or the demon the skill is in the placing of jesus in its place it's a replacement of jesus in that place now what that means is you have got to go on journeys of where is jesus is he safe is he kind for you let's talk to jesus see him know where he's at because the very second that comes out jesus must must go in and so what i find particularly and and and my children i said to jessica today do you know obviously she's left home and gone to university she says mommy i do all the time now i do self-deliverance all the time and because of what you've taught me i know uh the demon is there i tell it to go i invite jesus back in i work with jesus in that that should be normal and for an 18 year old she just knows that's how it works nine sexual trauma and sexual assault we've dealt with that a lot because there's a lot of it to rind the problem there is most people who are sexually assaulted are women and most of them have an anti-men bias and i have taken sometimes up to 18 months to get a trauma victim or sexual assault victim to talk to jesus properly i will not start with the deliverance i will start with can we talk to jesus can you chat to jesus um can you ask him where he was when this happened can we go through what he thinks about it what he says about it just can you hold hands with jesus you are just reconnecting to the only source that can heal you now when you trust jesus then we're in the demonite jesus inn but you have a journey of loving jesus and and connecting with him and i have taken with sometimes the people as i said 18 months plus plus just to get jesus and them to sit at a table and talk i said to people could i invite jesus into the room no could i invite jesus to just to stand the other side of the room so you can look at each other no way okay where was jesus he wasn't good now when you know jesus is the source of healing that's when those things actually will go and stay away okay now somebody's asking me a question about schizophrenia i actually am going to talk on thursday about mental health and demonic and dissociation identity disorder because that did come up in your questions whoa thursday's going to be controversial too so and because of course i i worked in mental health for years so uh that's a fun one but this is just answering the deliverance portion of it first other thoughts uh sir jane yeah just a couple of other things i think we know the experience that the person who's had the trauma uh often has body memory and so i think it's it's it's releasing the trauma from the body and laying hands on the person so whilst they're working with jesus and as emma's talking about that as ministers we can lay hands on and say we give the body permission to let go of the trauma we give you know the emotions permission to give the trauma to jesus and we release that sense of permission to receive peace from jesus and it is a conversational piece with the person who has had the trauma with jesus and he will speak directly to them and so is getting them to ask questions and receiving that piece as well another top tip i think that we've learned over the years is memories and how memories stole the trauma and so one of the things that god had us do many years ago was to put put ha our hand on the back of people's heads and i actually initially never realized what it was we were doing we would be praying for separation of trauma and pain from memory and emotions and bringing a separation there so as a minister who is praying with somebody you can do that and have them put their hand there or you put their hand there why is that important well in our brain the amygdala and the hippocampus are here and the amygdala holds the the fear memories and will trigger those fear memories and so actually releasing peace to the memories and asking god to do divine edit of memories which he will do i've seen it happen time and again and and separate emotions from those fear memories so that you get space for the those people to work with jesus those are top tips that i would give also decrees no limitations over your life freedom spaciousness over your life as they're beginning to work with jesus we make room for jesus for you to find jesus those kinds of prayers can be prayed in the room and also over them when they're not with you to expediate that process of healing and some people get get healed in a moment i mean emma you're going to talk about dissociation on thursday i've seen people who've been dissociated for years come together in a moment when jesus is on it when holy spirit is on it and but some people have gone through years of of journeying with god to get to that place others haven't and god just does a supernatural work there there isn't a method but there are tools that we can use that we that we've just shared so you have to get you have to get intimate with jesus to get healed and you have to get intimate with jesus for a deliverance to hold there's no way around that now david because we already got two more minutes left and because we've been controversial enough and because lots of people asked you lots of things about our relationship do you want to answer any of them and then they said what is david's favorite movie how does david like his eggs would david rather have toes for fingers or fingers for toes i mean there was a hole from the sublime to the ridiculous so david tell us [Laughter] um yes uh what which one do what do you want to know the answer you can people ask most about our marriage they asked a lot about that oh it's wonderful what else next question why we met and all of them oh how we met that story do you know actually it goes back to the sensational thing uh sensationalist thing um that actually i i was i i wanted to be spirit-filled i had i wanted to pray in tongues i wanted to be you know coming to all of that and um had been struggling with it had been wrestling with it so emma and i went to the uh the vicar of our church um to have a meeting with him and he did a sneaky on me and uh instead of sitting down with us to address those questions yes oh i had yes you're right i'd read it pre-mobile phones pre the internet you got pen and paper and said i don't believe in the gifts of the spirit but i'd like to know the holy spirit can you help yes yes i i it must have must have been something like that yeah i didn't have the internet to write comments on so i wrote them a letter um but it was it was a genuine it was a searching um question at the time but he did a sneaky and rather than address that question he went straight in for the juggler and um uh said you to her boyfriend and girlfriend are you sleeping together was his first question to us first question which uh which we said no yeah we said no um and then what did he say next he said he said do you love each other do you love each other and i thought i'm not answering this i want to see what david says yeah i don't think that question had necessarily come up i am at that that point yet and so you said what did you say you said yes and then he said are you in love and you said yes yes and then he said are you gonna get married and i thought this is a moment where i've got to learn how to be silent we've not had this conversation and what did you say yes and at that point i'm like i i i didn't know he loved me i didn't know he was in love with me i didn't know he was going to marry me and then the minister said well let's get you baptized in the spirit and i'm like can we just have the marriage chat line and then i i was uh i was down in the spirit and uh yeah for ours for ours and i'm going he's just told the minister we're gonna get married so he just he he got me on logic on that one it was a if i if we were in love um then why wouldn't we be getting married i suppose but had i had i not had it presented to me like that i i'd probably still be today fretting and wondering and all the rest so yes he got me he got me on the logic of it and then the spirit got me uh he got me on both sides that day yes and actually you were so full of the spirit for ours i couldn't even ask you the question what did you mean about the marriage for ours and ours and ours anyway hallelujah jesus and we've been married 23 years favorite movie david go on land yourself in it oh it's it's a bit it's very sweary because it's irish so it's got lots of swearing in it sorry it's the commitments there's an indictment of the irish that irish way where every second word is a swear word uh yes the commitments but uh i haven't seen it for many years but it's got soul music and trumpets and uh comedy and irish people a lot of my favorite things all in one place that's very kind of you okay brilliant well that's our time up we've done enough controversy for today uh just to remind you that miracle and miracle clinic there are appointments if you need a physical miracle or any other kind of miracle jump on i think the appointments have been open for the rest of may make sure you don't miss booking if you need a miracle that's live and and open and remember that you can join our um uh our association the global prophetic alliance and we are uh the membership is open and when you join the global prophetic alliance yeah you're good to be part of our family and um you get access to core training for supernatural ministry every month you get access to four coached practice sessions so you can grow in prophecy and healing and deliverance and dream interpretation and all of that and you get us praying for you you get to submit your prayers to us you get discount at conferences it's a whole amazing package so make sure you join the global prophetic alliance on line and i will be back who am i back with uh sam and luke and we will be talking mental health uh dissociation identity disorder more on demons and some more of your very very controversial questions i don't know am i brave enough to tell you about climate change you'll have to wait and see on thursday see you then bye [Music] you

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