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physical therapist. And here we have Chris, the pharmacist.
- Hey guys. - Today we are going to talk
about apple cider vinegar, use for leg cramps and more. This is a very interesting video if you have leg cramps, particularly, and if you want to find a
nice way to get rid of 'em. We'll get into detail on that. But before we go any farther, Bob's not here today, obviously. So we're very happy to
have Chris joining us. He's very knowledgeable and
did a lot of research on this. So we got some anecdotal
evidence and some great research. - Yep. - But before we go any
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- Exciting. - Learn about cramps and
how to get rid of 'em. So we're gonna talk about
apple cider vinegar. We've done this before. But this is kind of interesting
because Chris has cramps. I have, everyone, most
everyone has cramps. - Everyone has cramps.
- Everyone has cramps. It seems like leg cramps
are more prevalent overall. We don't have any research
on that, but as a therapist, I worked with a lot of
people and tried to help them with how to get rid of their
cramps with stretching. And it's always. I can't think of a time
where it wasn't leg cramps. Hamstrings, quads, or calves. - It always seems to be below the waist. But I mean, if you think
about it, we walk, we stand. I mean, we're creatures
that move all around. - Right, right. - So I think it stands to reason, at least from a logical standpoint, that I think it's just day to
day activity that can lead, you know, whether it's muscle weakness, whether it's dehydration. There's a lot of things that lead into it, but it's always below the waist. - And it seems to me, either
athletes are more prone to it or older people in their
50s and 60s, perhaps. - Yeah, you bet.
- Or higher. - Yeah, statistically,
it's the majority of people that have cramps, 60 year old ladies. - 60 year old females.
- 60 on up, yep. - And that's from the research. - That's from the research.
- All right. - So for whatever reason, don't know why. - Okay. - They probably work harder than us. Bottom line.
- Well, that's a given. (laughing)
- Exactly, exactly. - All right, so we have that information. So where's the bottle? - Here we go.
- This is what happened. This is a true story. My wife saw this bottle
at a hardware store in LaCrosse, Wisconsin. And it says, stops leg and foot
cramps in about one minute. So she says, oh, Brad, my husband, the famous physical therapist,
might be interested in this. So she brought it home. And I looked at it and I went (laughing). Yeah, that's not gonna work in one minute. So anyways, and I looked
at the ingredients, and Chris, you researched this in detail. - Oh, yeah.
- Cause I actually, 'cause Chris was having
cramps consistently. - Oh, I have cramps all the time. - So I happily gave this to Chris, and I says, you can try this. And I think Chris in his head
said, (laughing), yeah right. - I renamed it the salad
dressing treatment. - Yeah, and you can tell 'em. Give 'em all the details on this. - Yeah, so this happens to be, it says proven old Amish formula. And I kind of laughed at
Brad, just like his take when his wife had mentioned it
to him at the hardware store. And I'm like, there is just no way this is gonna work for a leg cramp. And we've actually done videos on cramps, and we've done extensive
research on cramps. And we've personally had cramps, just like all of you have had cramps. And nobody likes cramps. They hurt, they wake you up
in the middle of the night, or they happen at the
most inopportune time. It's just not a lot of fun. So I really scoffed at
Brad's apple cider treatment. - Oh, you didn't even use it. You just put it out on the table and he called it the salad
dressing because there's actually a little more than apple cider in there. - The actual ingredients in
here are apple cider vinegar. Pure, organic, unfiltered. It's got the mother, so I
mean, it's everything you want. But it also has a little bit of ginger and it also has a little bit of garlic. And so in my mind's eye,
rationally as a pharmacist, I'm thinking pharmaceutically
I can't come up with a reason for any one of those three
things to stop a cramp. - Right, and I'm thinking,
well, this could be one of those family old remedies that
for whatever reason works. And I don't care why it works. But Chris, it's nice to know, 'cause he wants to know how it works. - I want to know why, because
I like to tell my patients what really works and why, and what we have to be careful with. And so to me it's important. And so, but one night I had my cramp. And I'm like, well, darn
it, I'm gonna go down. And I had to go all the way downstairs with the cramp to go to the kitchen. - Which location was the cramp? - This one was hamstring.
- Hamstring. - Yeah, and so mine
usually are my hamstring. But I do get lower leg ones,
particularly in my feet, usually when I'm swimming,
they hit my feet. But when I'm in my sleep, it's hamstrings. But moving on. So I go downstairs, almost fall down. I get to the kitchen and
I threw a tablespoon in, four ounces of water, drank it down. - You were still cramping at the time? - Cramping at the time. An active cramp for probably five minutes, and it was not comfortable. And I'm like, this better,
I'm just thinking to myself, this is gonna work. This is better work. I'm gonna make fun of
Brad if this doesn't work. And like 30 seconds later, I'm walking across the
kitchen to go back upstairs, as I was limping, and all the
sudden, it just went away. - It released.
- It released. And there is no explicable reason. Gut transit time is 30 to 60 minutes. So you're gonna drink this,
and it should take time to go from gut to body to create it. And so that raised a
lot of questions for me at 2:00 in the morning, which is not the best time
to be thinking, but I was. And that's what kind
of bred to this video. But the reality of it is, so
we looked at different ways of why apple cider
vinegar may help cramps. And there are studies
after studies that existed. Like 11 people here, six
people there, 12 people there. It's hard to study cramping because unless you do some
pretty mean things to people, it's hard to induce one.
- Sure. - But they do seem to
come when we're sleeping, or at rest, or even during activity. I mean, people, athletes
have cramped during games. You'll see football games,
you see marathoners, you'll see track runners. - With fatigue and heat, I think. - Yep, which makes sense. Because we can always think about hydration and electrolytes, which are kind of the mainstay. And there's big companies
like Gatorade and Powerade that that's how they make their
bread and butter off of it. But when we kind of looked at some of this and the amount of
evidence that is out there that studies hydration and electrolytes, and there's anecdotal
evidence probably at best, because there's just not
enough wide body of research with apple cider vinegar. The interesting thing
about the vinegar was, and the first two that I found that were really eye opening to me. The first one, there was a gentleman that actually was talking about it. And he said that he felt
that apple cider vinegar could promote more production of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, which is just something that it helps with the muscle actual
potential and it makes it work. - So nervous, nerve.
- Yeah. And I'm like, well, that's
fine, but we're drinking this. It takes a long time
to get into the system. There's no way that you could possibly by doing 15 milliliters of this and some water and drinking it. You're gonna raise your.
- Wait. - How much is 15 milliliters of? - A tablespoon full.
- A tablespoon full. - Yeah, just just a kitchen, you know, what you use
to measure anything. - Put that in with four ounces of water. - With four ounces of water, drink. So that would be the dose for anybody at anything with apple cider vinegar. I wouldn't really
recommend going beyond that for a variety of reasons,
which you can touch on. But I just don't think there's any way we can naturally stimulate
creating a neuro-transmitter to just build up more and stop the cramp. So I read another article. I actually saw some Swiss research. And they actually said
that they think the cramp is actually from just your
brain being scrambled. It's a bad message being
sent to the muscle, the muscle doesn't release. So you're in this static state where it's just beating
you up and it hurts. Everybody that's had one knows. And so when you take this, I mean, you get relief
within 30 to 60 seconds. What they actually
believed in their research, whether it was consumed
or rinsed in their mouth, and this is why they think
it was a nerve problem, is they think the sourness
of the apple cider vinegar sends a signal to the brain
and it literally just stops off the transmission that
is creating the cramp. So basically.
- So those brain signals saying cramp, cramp,
cramp, cramp turn off. - So whether it's dehydration
or electrolyte driven, they actually think it's nervous driven. And the fact that even rinsing your mouth creates the same effect as drinking it and having the cramp
stop in 30 to 60 seconds seems to be that it's a lot
more neurological in nature. Now, again, this is my opinion. I'd say it's much more anecdotal. But that's the only explanation
that I can come up with without more wide burgeoning amounts of research done on that. So if there's a research
scientist out there, or a university that
wants to study cramping and the neurological aspects of it, I really do think that there
is probably something to this. - Sure.
- So it's interesting. And I have to say, it works. It works well, and I swear by it now. - Yeah, and you even wrote a testimonial. - Yeah, Caleb Treeze is the manufacturer that makes this particular product. I think it's excellent. You can get it online anywhere, Amazon, or you can go directly to their website. But that said, I actually
wrote on their site 'cause I think it's fantastic. - Sure, yeah. Yeah, and I just, it was like,
he's never gonna take this. I kinda give it to you as a joke. - Yeah, I tried it, and then
my son had the same problem and he's a hockey player. And outside of that he
didn't care for the taste, but it worked for him
too, so I mean, it's. - So we do want to caution. One more bridge here is if
you're on some medications, there is some medications you do not want to consume
apple cider vinegar with. - Yeah, you do want to make
sure that if you're on, there's a special
medication for your heart called Lanoxin or digoxin that helps control your
heart rate and rhythm, and that can affect your potassium levels. And that can too with consistent use. I would think for occasional
use it's probably fine, but it should be something you discuss with your doctor and your pharmacist. I would happen to believe
that most, even pharmacists, probably don't pay a lot of attention to apple cider vinegar. It's not in our wheelhouse. I had to seek out the research. And there's not tons of it.
- Sure. - But the reality of it,
and diuretics, water pills, things that basically make you excrete. Through urine, you can lose electrolytes. And so when we're using things like this, we have to be careful, I'm sure. And the last one that we
want to be most careful of is specifically type one diabetics that have diabetic induced gastroparesis. That's basically where your
gut motility doesn't work well. This may, cause it slows. This is why it might work
as a weight loss aid, which we'll talk about
it in a different video, but that said, it can
slow down gut motility. And for people that
already have gastroparesis, that can be dangerous. So specifically type one diabetics. - So if you're a diabetic, type one, best not to take this, perhaps, or talk to your doctor for sure. - Yeah, I would discourage it because it does affect blood sugar, which can be a positive thing,
but in a type one diabetic when you're solely reliant on
insulin and certain things, there's the diabetic umbrella, which we've talked about
in other videos too. We have to be real careful with that. - Sure, right, right. All right, so very good. Here we've got another positive thing for apple cider vinegar.
- Yeah, it's the stuff. - Yeah, who knows gonna happen
with this in the near future? - Well, I think it works, people. I'd say give it a shot. - Yeah, so one tablespoon, four, I go a little more than
four ounces of water to dilute a little bit. - One thing I want to touch on too, because it's actually acidic. Rinse your teeth afterwords so you don't ruin the
enamel on your teeth. - Right.
- Another big one. Another big one.
- Yeah, yep. All right, very good. Take care. We hope those cramps go away quickly. - We're gonna stop cramping, people. - That's right.
- Have a great day. - Be careful in all that you do. (laughing)
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