>>> JOINING ME AGAIN, CONGRESSWOMAN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO- CORTEZ WHO SITS ON THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND HAVE THAT EXCHANGE WITH MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE. IN SOME WAYS THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF THEATER AND PERFORMANCE ON CAPITOL HILL, BUT I COULD SENSE IN YOU AT THAT MOMENT LIKE GENUINE OUTRAGE AT WHAT WAS BEING DONE. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE AWAY FROM THAT MOMENT AND MORE BROADLY THE CULTURE OF A PLACE THAT SEEMS TO CULTIVATE THOSE SORT OF ANTICS? >> FIRST AND FOREMOST I KNOW THAT A LOT OF FOLKS SAW THE CLIPS GOING AROUND THAT WERE OFTEN HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED, BUT A LOT OF THAT WAS A RESULT OF STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT REPUBLICANS DECIDED TO MAKE IN REAL TIME TO ESSENTIALLY THROW OUT THE HOUSE HANDBOOK FRANKLY AND THE HOUSE RULES FOR COMMITTEE GUIDANCE AND COMMITTEE CONDUCT THROUGH A VOTE. THERE WAS A PROCEDURAL VOTE IN WHICH EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN WENT DOWN THE LINE AND DECIDED TO VOTE THAT THE COMMENTS THAT MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, THE DISGUSTING COMMENTS SHE MADE ABOUT REPRESENTATIVE CROCKETT, WERE IN FACT ABOVEBOARD AND ACCEPTABLE, WHICH IS RATHER UNPRECEDENTED IN THE HOUSE. THESE RULES WERE ESTABLISHED IN THE 1800S. SHORED UP IN THE 1800S AFTER THE CANING IN THE SENATE, PRECISELY DESIGNED TO DE- ESCALATE A POLITICAL CULTURE OF VIOLENCE WHEN THINGS GET TOO HOT. IN FACT WHEN I WAS A FRESHMAN COMING INTO THE HOUSE THE RULES WERE SO WIDELY RESPECTED THAT THERE WOULD BE MOTIONS TO STRIKE A MEMBERS WORDS EVEN IF THEY SPOKE IN THE SECOND PERSON AND USED THE WORD, YOU, INSTEAD OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM SO-AND-SO. SO MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE ACTING IN THAT ROLE IS NOT SURPRISING. WHAT IS SURPRISING IS CHAIRMAN COMBER ALLOWING THAT TO BE THE CONDUCT AND NOT JUST HIM, BUT EVERY REPUBLICAN EXCEPT FOR REPRESENTATIVE LAUREN BOEBERT, ACTUALLY. I THINK THAT SHE HAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO SO MUCH VITRIOL HERSELF MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO. I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO THAT AS WOMEN WE UNDERSTAND THE VITRIOL THAT ESPECIALLY HAPPENS. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CATCH ANY, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT GIVE ANY. I THINK THAT IS WHAT REPRESENTATIVE GREEN ENCOUNTERED ON FRIDAY. IF YOU DON'T WANT NONE, DON'T START NONE. IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RESPECT THE RULES, THEN IT IS GOING TO COME TO YOU. >> YOU HAVE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION POLICY ON ISRAEL AND GAZA AND ALSO STRENUOUS IN YOUR ENDORSEMENT OF THE TICKET. BALANCING THOSE TWO. AT THE TOP OF THE LIST OF PRIORITIES ARE THERE SPECIFIC ACTIONS, SPECIFIC THINGS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS NOT DOING NOW THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING THAT THEY HAVE UNDER CONTROL? >> THIS IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS WITHIN OUR CONTROL WHEN IT COMES TO THE BOMBARDMENT AND THE OUTRIGHT FAMINE THAT IS IN GAZA AND UNFOLDING GENOCIDE IN GAZA AND THERE ARE THINGS NOT IN OUR CONTROL THAT THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT IS BARRELING AHEAD TOO. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS CONSTRUCTIVE TO INVITE PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU TO A JOINT ADDRESS OF CONGRESS AND MANY FOREIGN LEADERS USED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LOBBY THE ENTIRE CONGRESS AND U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR THEIR OWN NEEDS OR FOR A CERTAIN VIEW OF THEIR PRIORITIES. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS A CONSTRUCTIVE ROLE RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE MORE THOROUGH WHEN ENFORCING A REDLINE AT RAFAH. I BELIEVE WHILE THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL WEAPONS TRANSFER THAT WAS BLOCKED, I THINK WE COULD BE DOING MORE TO INVESTIGATE THIS. I BELIEVE THE SANCTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE WEST BANK, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FULLY ENFORCING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE LAWS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE BOOKS TO THE FULLEST EXTENT POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO REIN IN THE AGGRESSION AS WELL AS, I THINK, THE EXTRAORDINARY INCENTIVES THAT THE NETANYAHU ADMINISTRATION HAS TO CONTINUE ITS CAMPAIGN IN RAFAH. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POLITICAL PRESSURES THEY ARE RESPONDING TO AND I THINK IT IS DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT PLAYING INTO THAT HAND EITHER. >> THE LAST QUESTION RELATED TO THIS WHEN YOU MENTIONED NETANYAHU. THERE IS IN A WELL-DRESSED -- THERE IS AN ARREST WARRANT FOR HIM AND THE HEAD OF HAMAS. THERE WAS BIPARTISAN CALLS IN THE SENATE TO WORK ON LEGISLATION TO ESSENTIALLY SANCTION THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT FOR THAT ARREST WARRANT PORTS NETANYAHU AND ANTONY BLINKEN SAID THAT HE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO WORKING WITH A BIPARTISAN GROUP OF SENATORS. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION TO SANCTION THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. I WILL ASSOCIATE MYSELF WITH SOME OF OUR STRONGEST ALLIES AND EVEN MEMBERS WITHIN THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS THAT ASSERT AND RESPECT THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE COURTS. THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE ICC AND WHAT I FIND PARTICULARLY DISTURBING ABOUT THIS ATTACK ON THE ICC IS THAT THERE IS NO PARTICULAR SET OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY ANY MEMBER OF ANY PARTY AS TO ANY SORT OF REASON WHY THE CONCLUSIONS ARE WRONG OR CORRUPTED OR WHY THE PROCESS MAY NOT HAVE LEGITIMACY AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE SIMPLY ATTACKING A COURT BECAUSE WE DO NOT LIKE IT'S CONCLUSION, WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT CASE, CREATES, I THINK, AND OPENING OF HYPOCRISY ENDED COULD POTENTIALLY BE A GIFT TO ADVERSARIES OF THE UNITED STATES. BECAUSE WHAT PREVENTS PUTIN, WHAT PREVENTS INDIVIDUALS AND OTHER AUTHORITARIANS AROUND THE WORLD FROM ALSO DISREGARDING AN INTERNATIONAL BODY FROM TRYING TO CREATE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WAR CRIMES ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD? WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS MOMENT TO ADVANCE DEMOCRACY AND SHORE UP DEMOCRACY NOT JUST AT HOME, BUT IN ORDER TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY AND A FULLY FUNCTIONAL DEMOCRACY. IT IS THE EXACT OPPO
