>> I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO DO
ANYTHING WHAT HE'S DOING. I THINK JOE BIDEN IS DOING
EXACTLY WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO TO WIN REELECTION. I THINK THE
POLLING THAT'S TAKEN PLACE, SOMETHING IS AMISS WITH THE
POLLING. OUR CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE RECENT POLLS
OVER IN MARYLAND AFTER AMERICAN WOMAN RUNNING FOR A STATE SENATE
NOMINATION THE SUNDAY BEFORE THE ELECTION, ONE POLL HAD OR 5. NOW THE POOL HAD 7 THEM AND SHE WON BY 13. EXPLAIN THAT. THAT'S 20 POINTS. YEAH, YOU'RE SO I HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT'S GOING ON. WE PULL IN THESE DAYS. BUT I DO KNOW THIS.
THE POLLS DID NOT HAVE SOFT, NOT ONE OUT WHEN IN
GEORGIA AND BOTH OF THEM WON POLLS AND NOT HAVE AT BETH, JUST SOME PERSON IN THE
DISTRICT, BUT SHE DID IT IN THE BATTER. WHO BELIEVES THAT DOWN TRUMP. WE'LL GET 30% ARE BLACK MEN
MALE VOTE? WELL, 12% ARE BLACK FEMALE VOTE TOGETHER BRIDGE ABOUT THEIR OWN
JOBS OUT OF THAT SAID. >> IT'S IT'S VERY I DEMOCRATIC
ACTUALLY JIM CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA AS A NATIONAL CO-CHAIR
FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN YET OUT, JIM, THAT RAIN NEVER MIND 2
THINGS. ONE IS WHAT PERSON RUNNING TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN BACK
IN 2020 TRIED TO TELL ME HE WAS GOING TO GET 20% OF THE BLACK
VOTE IN 2021. IS I THINK IT REMINDS ME OF WHEN I GOT
ELECTED NIGHT AT 30 31, I LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND SAYING,
OK, HOW YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN AND WHAT I NEED TO DO THE WHERE AND
THEY START TALKING ABOUT THESE REPUBLICANS, WHITE REPUBLICANS
ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE. THE WINDS ARE
GOING TO CRACK THE CODE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET 30, 40% OF
THE BLACK. BUT BEFORE IT CAME OUT OF THE MOUTH, IS THAT NO,
YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET 5%. AND IF YOU WORK REALLY
HARD, YOU CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS UP. >> BUT THE TRUMP PEOPLE, I
MEAN, THE TRUMP PEOPLE ARE DOING IT AGAIN. WE'RE GOING TO
GET 30% TALK ABOUT. >> HOW YOU HEAR THIS YEAR IN
AND YEAR OUT AND IT JUST NEVER COMES TO ITS COMES TO FRUITION
FOR REPUBLICANS. >> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR HAVING ME, JOE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ARE
THESE ATTITUDES TO GET SOME OUT THERE, SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
EXPECT TO START THE SECOND EVENT. SO THESE PEOPLE REALLY
CARRY A MESSAGE THAT WE ALL KNOW WHERE IT EMANATED FROM. I UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT
THAT'S 5 WILL THAT THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE FACT
THE MATTER OF YEARS, PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEIR CONDITIONS ARE. THEY WATCH THESE AND IT IS
LISTEN TO THEIR RHETORIC. AND WHEN YOU SAY I'VE DONE
BEFORE, WE'RE ASKING THE MAYOR, IS THAT
IN THE PRESIDENT SAYS A RED LIGHT AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE OF,
YOU KNOW, SUPPORT INSIDE THE U.S. AND THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN
THINGS ARE GOING GOOD IN JIM CROW AND COME AND LET THE LBJ
COMES ALONG AND DOES OUT AND BECAUSE OF HIS PROGRAMS AS
GOT BAD. SO THE BLACK HAND OVER HIS PROGRAM ONE NIGHT TO 64
CIVIL RIGHTS ACT. THE 96 INSIDE, BUT NOT RIGHT
TO. BUT IT IS 68 FAIR HOUSING LAW
GETTING RID OF MAN OR A RED LINE AND SHE'S BEEN A GREAT
FAMILY. IS ISLAM CONDITION. THAT IS A PROBLEM. AND YOU'RE TELLING ME AND THAT YOUR GUY POSING THAT BIG IN RIYADH, THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS AND NOW
THAT'S IT. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP A PROBLEM.
MCCAIN WAS THAT HE CAST THE DECIDING
VOTE THAT MAY. >> THE AFFORDABLE I CONTINUE TO EXIST. NOW YOU TELL ME THAT BLACKS AND
WHITES, WE'RE GOING TO REWARD HIM. I JUST SAW MISTER MATT AND
THAT'S A MASK IS A PIECE. AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING I
HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS EVEN MONTHS NOW TO MY FRIENDS. THAT'S JOE BIDEN HAS IT.
WHY CONSTITUENCY? BUT NOBODY DID IS LOOKING THAT NOBODY IS IT,
TOO. BUT IT IS SHOWING UP IN THIS POLL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE
ARE SAYING TO THE POST SAYS I KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO ME AND I
WILL BE ABLE TO NOT JUST AND THEN THAT'S WHEN SAN DIEGO AND
ASKED A LOT OF TIME IN A SOLID REPORT. THE SOLID AIRPORT IN THE LAST 7 DAYS. AND PEOPLE
COMING UP TO ME VERY QUIET LIST, SAYING IT DOING WHAT
YOU'RE DOING. I THINK HE'S BESIDE COME
NOVEMBER. I TELL YOU, IS IT WHY IT'S TO
SAY THAT JOE BIDEN HAS AND IT WILL SHOW UP BIG TIME. >> FROM NOVEMBER. >> REVEREND AL IS WITH THE CITY
HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. JIM REP, CONGRESSMAN OF HAPPY
JUNETEENTH DAY YOU YOU BEFORE YOU WENT TO CONGRESS, YOU AND
YOUR WIFE CAME OUT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT THAT REALLY
HELPED US TO GAIN. AND YOU'RE VERY YOUNG YEARS. THE OF VOTING
RIGHTS ACT AND A LOT OF THIS RACE HAS FOCUSED NIGHTMARE MORE
FRIED. A LOT OF HIS RACE IS NOT ABOUT 2 OLDER WHITE MEN
FIGHTING, YOU KNOW, RETIREMENT HOME ABOUT WHO'S THE BEST.
IT'S NOT COOL SIDE WE'RE ON. BUT WHO'S ON OUR SIDE? AND I
THINK THAT WOULD YOU CAN OUTLINE TO OUR VIEW IS IS THE
DIFFERENCE. THE CONTRASTS IN WOULD TRUMP HAS STOOD FOR ME.
WE LOST SOME FROM THE VACCINE AND AM VOTING RIGHTS HAS BEEN
HURT AND WHAT BIDEN HAS HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO. PEOPLE DO VOTE
FOR WHOSE SIDE THEY'RE ON IS WHO'S ON THIS SIDE? >> YES. AND LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING. 2 WORDS TO SUM UP BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE. JOE BIDEN OFFERS FREEDOM, READ THE BOOK, FREEDOM OF REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS,
THE TIMES OF FREEDOM THAT PEOPLE HOLD DEAR THE OTHER SIDE ALSO FAITH. YOU'VE ALSO ME AND I WILL SAY
TO YOU IT THIS WAY THAT WE THE WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR MY
COMMUNITY IS MOSS FAMILY FROM YOU FOR SOMEBODY THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER SIDE IS FAIL TO FOOTBALL. SO I'M
TELLING YOU, THIS CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT FREEDOM VERSUS ABLE. >> THAT WASN'T MY WORD.
REPRESENTATIVE CLOUDINESS IS THAT GOD IS GREAT TO SEE YOU.
HAPPY JUNETEENTH. LET ME ASK YOU QUESTION. I AGREE WITH YOU
THAT THIS IDEA THAT THE TRUMP THE CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO GET
30% OF THE BLACK VOTE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, RIGHT, THAT
THESE NUMBERS THAT THE TOWN IS MAKING SENSE. BUT ARE YOU
CONCERNED ABOUT TURNOUT? WHAT I MEAN WHEN I TRAVEL
AROUND THE COUNTRY AND I'M TALKING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE,
THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF EXCITEMENT OUT THERE. AND SO
ARE YOU WORRIED THAT SO MUCH ABOUT SO VOTING FOR DONALD
TRUMP? BUT FOLK NOT TURNING OUT IN THE NUMBERS THAT DO THAT.
IT'S THAT PRODUCED WHAT WARNOCK AND OSSOFF, RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT A
DEPRESSED? BUT VOTER TURNOUT? ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT? >> WELL, THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER
SIDE IS ALL ABOUT. YES, I AM WORRIED ABOUT THAT. THERE IS NO
WORD ABOUT THAT. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE GET THIS IS
THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TO TURN PEOPLE OUT
BASED UPON. I LOVE THAT SONG. WHAT I WORRY ABOUT
MISINFORMATION, THAT THIS INFORMATION, THE STUFF THAT
HAPPENED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT PEOPLE REPEAT AND THEN MAY
SPEND MEDIA RATHER THAN BOUGHT IT AS IT IS
AND THE REPEATED IT'S ONE THING TO ROOT FOR
SOMETHING ELSE TO REPEAT AND YOU KEEP YOUR BUSINESS RATHER
THAN EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING BACK. THE REST ARE
NOW AND THE OTHER SIDE KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP
SAYING THIS PARTICULAR SPACE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THAT IF
THEY GET REPEATED OFTEN UP BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, PEOPLE
WILL BE DEPRESSED AND THEN THE VOTE WILL BE SUPPRESSED. >> ALRIGHT, DEMOCRATIC
CONGRESSMAN JIM CLYBURN OF SOUTH CAROLINA. ALWAYS GREAT TO
SEE YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EVERY
COUNTRY. ALL RIGHT. HAVE YOU TO TAKE. HE WAS IN DETROIT ON SATURDAY,
TOUTING ALL THE THINGS THAT HE SAYS HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS
DONE FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN, INCLUDING SAYING
THAT UNEMPLOYMENT RATES WERE THE LOWEST IN HISTORY. WELL, IT
WAS PRESIDENT. >> AND I SAY THIS, I SAY
PROUDLY MORE FOR THE BLACK POPULATION THAN ANY PRESIDENT
SINCE ABRAHAM LINCOLN. NOTHING FOR YOU EXCEPT TALK.
IT'S ONLY TALK. COPS WERE THE BEST I CAN FOR BLACK AMERICANS.
THE JOBS WITH THE BEST IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. >> SAID HE'S THE BEST PRESIDENT FOR BLACK AMERICANS SINCE
ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND HE SAID THAT'S A BIG STATEMENT. IT WAS
A BIG STATEMENT. IT WAS ALSO A BIG LIE. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
RESPONDED TO THE PART WHERE THE POST SAYING IN PART THIS FACT
CHECK. THIS IS A BLATANT LIE. TRUMP
LEFT OFFICE WITH THE WORST JOBS RECORD SINCE THE GREAT
DEPRESSION TO HEAR THAT THE WORST JOBS RECORD SINCE THE
GREAT DEPRESSION, INCLUDING PRESIDING OVER RECORD HIGH
BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT. PRESIDENT BIDEN A SENSE PRESIDED OVER
RECORD LOW BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT AND POVERTY RATES. STEVE
RATTNER, YOU'RE AT THE BIG WALL OF WHITE HAS UNEMPLOYMENT FOR
BLACK AMERICANS LOOK LIKE UNDER BOTH JOE BIDEN AND DONALD
TRUMP. >> SURE, JOE. SO WE'LL TAKE A
LOOK OVER HERE AT THE SOUTHWEST WAS EXACTLY THAT POINT. AND
WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE HISTORY OF BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT
VERSUS WHITE UNEMPLOYMENT AT HISTORICALLY, AS WE ALL KNOW,
THERE WAS A BIG GAP BETWEEN BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT AND WHITE
UNEMPLOYMENT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE 1980'S, IT WAS 12
PERCENTAGE POINTS, BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT WELL OVER 20%.
AND WE DID MAKE A GOOD BIT OF PROGRESS. AND IN FAIRNESS TO
TRUMP, WE EVEN MADE A BIT OF PROGRESS UNDER HIS
ADMINISTRATION. BUT WHAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS TALKING
ABOUT IS THAT WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC,
IN FAIRNESS, ALL BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT WAS SOMETHING LIKE
17%. AND UNDER JOE BIDEN HAS COME DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN DOWN
AND IT DID HIT A RECORD LOW OF ABOUT 6.5% DURING LAST YEAR.
IT'S UP VERY SLIGHTLY THIS YEAR. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE
GAP BETWEEN BLACK AND UNEMPLOYMENT AND WHITE
UNEMPLOYMENT HAS HAD A RECORD LOW AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T COME CLOSE TO. THERE'S ONLY 2.3% PERCENT
TO 2.3 PERCENTAGE POINT GAP BETWEEN THE 2 OBVIOUSLY WANT TO
GET THAT GAP. 0, 4, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER. PART OF WHY
THAT'S HAPPENED IS BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN MORE BLOCKS INTO
THE WORKFORCE PARTICULAR BLACK WOMEN. SO WHEN YOU MAKE SOME
ADJUSTMENTS FOR DEMOGRAPHICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU HAVE
ALMOST THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF BLACK WOMEN EMPLOYED TODAY AS
YOU DO A WHITE WOMEN. SO WE'VE ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATED THAT
GAP, WHICH IS WAS AS MUCH AS 8 PERCENTAGE POINTS BACK IN THE
1990'S, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS WITH BLACK MEN. THAT'S A LITTLE
BIT HARDER FOR A VARIETY REASONS. WE HAVE A 5% RECAP AT
THE MOMENT, BUT THAT'S WELL WELL BETTER THAN WHERE WE WERE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT THAT LONG AGO WHEN YOU WERE AT 11 OR 12%.
SO WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS ON UNEMPLOYMENT AND WE STILL HAVE
A BIT OF A WAYS TO GO. BUT THE NEWS THERE IS ACTUALLY PRETTY
GOOD. >> WELL, IT'S REALLY GOOD WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT AND EMPLOYMENT EQUITY IS BETTER
THAN IT'S EVER BEEN. LET'S GO TO THE SECOND CHART AND LET'S
LOOK WHERE BLACK INCOME DOES LAG BEHIND WHITE INCOME. >> YEAH, JUST SO OBVIOUSLY
UNEMPLOYMENT AND INCOME ARE 2 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ECONOMIC
INDICATORS. AND THERE WE HAVE NOT MADE MADE AS MUCH PROGRESS.
YOU CAN SEE HERE JUST START OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING TO WAGES,
INFLATION-ADJUSTED WAGES FOR VARIOUS GROUPS. AND SO WHITE
AMERICANS, THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT $119,000 PER HOUSEHOLD.
ASIAN-AMERICANS ARE ACTUALLY 141,000 BY HISPANIC AMERICANS
AND BLACK AMERICANS ARE DOWN IN THE 76,000 TO 80,000 LEVEL.
SO THEIR INCOMES HAVE BEEN GOING UP AND THIS IS AFTER
ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION, BUT NOT NOT NEARLY TO THE SAME
LEVEL. AND ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT IS DOWN HERE. AND THIS
IS THE RATIO BETWEEN THE 2 INCOMES, BLACK AND WHITE.
AND SO BLACK INCOMES HAVE BEEN HOVERING AROUND 65% OF WHITE
INCOMES. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME. UNDER A LOT OF
PRESIDENTS. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE REAL PROGRESS THERE. HISPANICS
ARE ESSENTIALLY IN THE SAME SITUATION, ASIANS HAVE DONE
BETTER. AND LET'S GO GET YOUR 3RD CHART
WHERE THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP REMAINS LARGE. YEAH. ON THE
RACIAL WEALTH GAP IS HUGE TO HAVE WHITE AMERICANS WITH JUST
A FAMILY INCOMES UP HERE AROUND $280,000. YOU HAVE BLACK
AMERICANS DOWN HERE. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RATIO, YOU
CAN SEE IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1989. WHITE AMERICANS
WERE 18 TIMES THE WEALTH OF BLACK AMERICANS. BLACK
AMERICANS HAD ALMOST NO WEALTH. WE HAVE AGAIN MADE SOME
PROGRESS THERE. WE'VE GOT TO RATION OF 6 TIMES. IT WENT UP
AFTER THE GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS GOT WORSE FOR BET.
AND WE WORKED IT BACK DOWN TO 6, BUT OBVIOUSLY 6 TIMES IS A
CRAZY NUMBER THAT FOR WHITE PEOPLE TO HAVE FAMILY INCOMES,
FAMILY, WEALTH OF 6 TIMES BLACK PEOPLE. SO A LOT OF WORK TO DO
THERE. SO AND AND OTHER ECONOMIC INDICATORS ALSO SHOW
WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. IF YOU LOOK AT PERCENTAGES
ON THE OWN THEIR OWN HOMES, WHITE 73% BLACKS. 46 ADULT OF
27 RETIREMENT ACCOUNT. 61 1% OF WHITES HAVE RETIREMENT
ACCOUNTS. ONLY 28% OF BLACK AMERICANS ON STOCKS. 66% VERSUS
39% FOR BLACK PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION DRIVES A
LOT OF THIS. AND SO 42% OF WHITE AMERICANS HAVE A
BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR HIGHER EDUCATION DEGREE. ONLY 29% OF
BLACK AMERICANS. I HAVE AN EDUCATION. SO TODAY'S SHOOTING
TEAM AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DAY TO LOOK AT BOTH
ENORMOUS PROGRESS WE MADE IN TERMS OF GETTING A BLACK
AMERICANS INTO THE WORKFORCE AT ALMOST THE SAME LEVEL AS
WHITES. THAT'S IT. THAT'S REALLY GREAT NEWS. BUT WE HAVE
A LOT OF WORK TO DO. >> GREAT PROGRESS. BUT A LONG
WAY TO GO. MORNING JOE ECONOMIC ANALYST STEVE RATTNER. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. LET'S LET'S TALK, JONATHAN,
ABOUT THE DUSTUP YESTERDAY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP WHO CAN'T
CAN'T REALLY SEEM TO STOP FROM KICKING THE MOST IMPORTANT
CITY, THE MOST IMPORTANT CITY IN AMERICAN POLITICS OVER THE
NEXT 6 MONTHS. THAT, OF COURSE, IS THE LARGEST CITY IN
WISCONSIN, WHICH IS SEEN AS THE ULTIMATE SWING STATE, OF
COURSE, IS NOW BACKTRACKING. BUT HE WAS ACCORDING TO CHICAGO
POLICE. HE WAS PLANNING TO STAY IN GO. AND DURING THE
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION IN MILWAUKEE AND HIS ABOUT-FACE
CAME AFTER REPORTERS FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE STAYING
IN THE WINDY CITY INSTEAD OF MILWAUKEE WHEN IT REPORTEDLY
INVOLVED TRUMP STAYING AT A TRUMP TOWER IN THE WINDY CITY
COMMUTING 90 MILES NORTH. ALSO HE CAN STAY OUT OF
MILWAUKEE OVERNIGHT. OF COURSE, TRUMP LIED AND TOLD NBC THAT HE
HAD PLANNED TO STAY IN MILWAUKEE ALL ALONG. BUT HOURS
LATER, CHICAGO LAW ENFORCEMENT CONFIRMED THAT THEY WERE, IN
FACT, PLANNING SECURITY FOR A TRUMP STAYED DURING THE RNC
CONVENTION AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY AND HAD BEEN
COORDINATING SAFETY MEASURES. WHAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IN
PERSON AND BY PHONE. ACCORDING TO THE CHAIR OF THE CITY
COUNCIL'S PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
ABRUPTLY CHANGED THEIR MINDS YESTERDAY AND COMMUNICATED WITH
THE CITY IS SAFE. WE'RE NOT COMING TO SEE THE
CUBS. AFTER ALL. TRUMP SPENT ON THE DEFENSIVE, OF COURSE ABOUT
HIS VIEWS IN MILWAUKEE AFTER HE TOLD REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IN A
PRIVATE MEETING LAST WEEK THAT THE CITY WAS, QUOTE, HORRIBLE
ONE WEEK LATER WHEN HE'S IN IT, WISCONSIN. HE'S SAYING THAT HE,
QUOTE, LOVES MILWAUKEE. JONATHAN, AMIR, GET YOU THINK
THEY CAN HANDLE THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BUT THE GUY JUST
OBVIOUSLY HAS CONTEMPT FOR MILWAUKEE. DOESN'T MATTER HOW
MUCH PEOPLE SPEND IT ON FOX NEWS BECAUSE I HAD SOME PEOPLE,
EVEN HOWIE KURTZ IS SHOW TRYING TO SPEND THAT THAT IT WAS
MISINFORMATION. WHAT WAS SAID ABOUT MILWAUKEE NOW, NOT NOT IF
YOU TAKE WHAT REPUBLICANS WERE SAYING IN THE ROOM, THE FACT
THEY WERE GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES SAYING, OH, NO, HE
DIDN'T SAY IT. AND THEN THEY FIND OUT LATER THAT HE ADMITTED
TO SAYING AT THE OJAI AND IT'S JUST A BACK AND FORTH AND BACK
AND FORTH. BUT OBVIOUSLY HE LIKE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS IN
WISCONSIN HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH MILWAUKEE. >> YEAH, JEFFERSON AND
METEOROLOGY NOW GEOGRAPHY, CHICAGO, NOT IN WISCONSIN.
CHICAGO HAS GONE ON IN WISCONSIN, CHICAGO, IN
ILLINOIS. A STATE THAT'S GOING TO SAFELY GO. DEMOCRATIC.
MILWAUKEE, THOUGH, IS THE BIGGEST CITY IN ARGUABLY THE
BIGGEST BATTLEGROUND STATE ON THE MAP IN WISCONSIN AND YOU
THIS IS NOT NEW FOR TRUMP. TRUMP BACK IN 2016 THE RNC WAS
SLATED TO BE IT WAS IN CLEVELAND. HE ATTACKED CLEAN
REPEATEDLY PRIVATE SAY HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT THE
RNC WOULD BE THERE. HE IS DOING THE SAME HERE AND TRUMP IS, YOU
KNOW, UNKNOWN CREATURE OF HABIT. HE LIKES TO SLEEP IN HIS
OWN BED EACH NIGHT ON CAMPAIGN TRAIL. HE FLIES BACK AND FORTH
IN ORDER TO GET BACK TO MAR-A-LAGO AND BEDMINSTER
WHEREVER MIGHT BE. IN THIS CASE. HE WAS GOING TO GO TO
TRUMP TOWER IN CHICAGO THAT HOTEL THERE. BUT JEN, THIS
POINTS TO A BIGGER ISSUE. I MEAN, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN
THERE THROUGH THE CASE ALL ALONG HAS BEEN ONCE TRUMP WAS
RETURN TO THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. ONCE THE TRIAL IS OVER,
AMERICAN START TUNING IN OVER THE SUMMER THAT MORE AND MORE
IN THE FALL. THE TRUMPS GOING TO KEEP MAKING SELF-DESTRUCTIVE
ACTUALLY COMMENTS. THIS FEELS LIKE IT COULD BE ONE OF THEM.
AND EVEN IF HE ALIENATES JUST A PERCENTAGE OF WISCONSIN VOTERS,
MAYBE NOT MILWAUKEE RESIDENTS, THE CITY IS PROBABLY NOT TO GO
FROM MAYBE SOME SUBURBAN RESIDENTS WHO HAVE PRIDE IN
MILWAUKEE WHERE THE BREWERS OR WHATEVER MIGHT BE. >> IT'S A BIG UNFORCED ERROR.
YEAH, THE OR THE BUCKS. HAHA THE EYE IT. I WONDERED WHY HE HAD THAT.
I DID NOT RELAY SAID ABOUT CLEVELAND AS WELL THAT HE WOULD
THAT HE WOULD TRASH-TALK CLEVELAND IN 2016. HE DOESN'T MEAN THIS IS A
THING, RIGHT? HE WANTS TO STAY AND TRUMP HOTELS, RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S NOT A TRUMP
HOTEL IN MILWAUKEE AND THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO STAY IN
CHICAGO. BUT ALSO I WONDER IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SOMEPLACE
WHERE HE LOSES AND IF HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT LOVED
IN MILWAUKEE AND HE'S NOT LEFT IN WISCONSIN. NEWS LEFT IS LOST
IN WISCONSIN BEFORE. IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO GO WITH IT,
WANT TO GO BACK THERE. AND I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT
SOME REPUBLICANS IN WISCONSIN DON'T LOVE MILWAUKEE EITHER,
BUT IT DOES SEEM TO LIKE GET SOME KIND OF PRIDE OF THE STATE
WHEN YOU'RE ATTACKING THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING
THERE, BIGGEST CITY AND THE MORE HE'S ON. YOU KNOW, THERE'S
A LOT OF CRAZY STUFF. THEY SAID WHEN HE WAS IN WISCONSIN LAST
NIGHT, THE MORE HE'S ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, THE MORE FODDER
THERE IS FOR THIS THIS KIND OF THING, BUT WHAT THEY LIKE. >> SOMEHOW THIS? WELL, I THINK
THAT I NOTICE YOU. >> VERY SELECTIVE ON THE CITY'S
THAT HE ATTACKS USUALLY HAVE. BLACK MAYORS USED A LOUNGE
URBAN COMMUNITY AND I HAD THE MAYO MILWAUKEE ON A POSITIVE
NATION OF THE NIGHT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW,
HE'D NEVER ATTACK CERTAIN CITIES WHO HAS SOME OF THE SAME
CHALLENGES. BUT I THINK THEY WERE GETTING AHEAD OF
OURSELVES. HE HAS A SENTENCING FOR DAYS BEFORE THE CONVENTION
AND WHO KNOWS. THE JUDGE MAY HAVE OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS FOR
PAD FOR HIM. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S IT MAY BE UNLIKELY, BUT I
WOULDN'T RULE THAT OUT. >> WE WE SHALL SEE. STAY TO
STAY TUNED ON THAT. FINE. BUT ADDIE, I MEAN, THE REV
REALLY JUST I MEAN, HE BROUGHT THE CODE REALLY, I MEAN, WHEN
AFTER TRUMP TRASHED MILWAUKEE, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, HE WOULD
NEVER SAY THAT. AND THEN UK WHERE WE FOUND OUT HE DID
SAY THAT AND THEY THEY MADE A LOT OF THEM. IT WAS ABOUT
CRIME. IT WAS ABOUT THE BREWERS MIDDLE RELIEVERS. IT WAS ABOUT
THE IS IT WAS ABOUT THAT. NO, IT WASN'T. HE TRASHED
MILWAUKEE, BUT IT BUT BIG. IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE
SURROUNDING IT, REPUBLICANS IN WISCONSIN HAVE BEEN TRASHING
MILWAUKEE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND IT'S ALL AS THE RAV SAID,
IT'S ABOUT CITIES WITH URBAN POPULATIONS WITH BLACK MAYORS.
REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS TALKED THAT WAY ABOUT PHILADELPHIA.
THEY'RE GOING TO JUST SIT AND WAIT AND SEE HOW MANY BLACK
FOLKS THEY CAN STILL IN PHILADELPHIA BECAUSE
PHILADELPHIA IS SO CORRUPT OR DETROIT. YOU NOW DAVID FRUM HAS
A PIECE OUT ABOUT DONALD TRUMP TRASHING DETROIT. AGAIN, IT ALL
COMES DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD WHAT HE SAID ABOUT
AFRICA AND ABOUT CARIBBEAN NATIONS. YOU MIGHT AS WELL SAY
ABOUT CITIES TO WEAR WHERE THERE'S A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK
POPULATION. CHANCES ARE VERY, VERY GOOD. THE DONALD TRUMP IS IS IT'S NOT GOING TO LIKE
THAT CITY. >> ALL RIGHT, JOE, AND THEN YOU
ADD THAT TO HIS CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT THESE ARE THE
PLACES THAT LED TO THE ELECTION BEING STOLEN. REMEMBER WHEN HE
WAS TALKING ABOUT 2020, WHAT WAS HAPPENING, IT WAS WHAT WAS
GOING ON IN IN ATLANTA. WHAT WAS HAPPENING RIGHT IN
MILWAUKEE, WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN DETROIT, WHAT WAS HAPPENING
IN PHILADELPHIA. SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO BE IN
MILWAUKEE, MAKING THE CASE RIGHT THAT THE ELECTION WAS
STOLEN IN 2020, RIGHT WHEN IN FACT, HE'S ACTUALLY HOLDING HIS
CONVENTION IN THE VERY CITY THAT HE THINK PARTICIPATED AND
IN THE HIGHEST AS IT WERE. SO NOT ONLY IS IT RACES, JOE,
IT KIND OF CUTS AGAINST THE GRAIN OF THE THEORY THAT HE'S
BEEN SPOUTING EVERY SINCE HE LOST THE ELECTION. >> NOW RUSSIAN PRESIDENT
VLADIMIR PUTINS MEETING WITH KIM JONG HOON. AND EARLIER
TODAY THE NORTH KOREAN LEADER HOSTED PUEDEN FOR A LAVISH
WELCOME CEREMONY WITH PORTRAITS OF BOTH LEADERS TRYING TO TAP
SURROUNDING BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE NEARBY. SEE
STREETS THINK WASHINGTON, D.C., IN 2025 OF DONALD TRUMP WINS.
IT'S BEEN 24 YEARS SINCE PUTIN VISITED THE RECLUSIVE NATION AS
HIS WAR ON UKRAINE STRETCHES INTO ANOTHER SUMMER. NORTH
KOREA'S ABILITY ARM RUSSIA WITH WEAPONS AND ARTILLERY IS
CRITICAL FOR PUTINS WAR AIMS. AND AS BOTH LEADERS FACE
ESCALATING STANDOFF WITH THE WEST WHERE LEARNING THEY SIGNED
A DEAL TO HELP EACH OTHER IN CASE THE OTHER IS ATTACKED.
LET'S BRING IN ROGERS CHAIR OF AMERICAN YEAH. PRESIDENCY OF
VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY HISTORIAN JON MEACHAM. JOHN, WE REALLY
ARE SEEING A SHIFT HERE. THERE WAS THERE WAS A TIME NOT
SO LONG AGO WHEN RUSSIA WAS LARGELY DEPENDENT ON GERMANY
AND OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION TO HELP FUEL
THEIR ECONOMY. OBVIOUSLY, CHINA HAS BEEN DEPENDING MORE
AND MORE ON EUROPE AND THE WEST FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YOU'RE NOW
WE'RE REALLY SEEING A CRUSH READING. DAVID FRUM, WHO WE
JUST TALKED ABOUT A GREAT PIECE. YES, IN THE ATLANTIC
ABOUT TO JOIN YOU REALLY SAYING THIS AXIS OF EVIL WAY WITH
RUSSIA, NORTH KOREA, COMMUNIST CHINA, THE MOST REPRESSIVE
COMMUNIST NATIONS ON EARTH THAT PUTIN WOULD LIKE TO CALL
HIMSELF A CONGRESS LEADER. BUT THE MOST OPPRESSIVE NATIONS
ON EARTH COMING TOGETHER TO UNITE AGAINST THE WEST TO UNITE
AGAINST NATO, TO UNITE AGAINST AMERICA, TO UNITE AGAINST
FREEDOM. AND I'VE GOT TO SAY THE MOST FRIGHTENING PART OF
THAT. I MEAN, BECAUSE STANDING ALONE DOESN'T CAUSING
CONCERN. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ECONOMIC MIGHT OF OUR MILITARY
MIGHT. BUT THE MOST CONCERNING PART OF THAT ALLIANCE IS IN
DONALD TRUMP CONSIDERS HIMSELF TO BE CLOSE FRIENDS WITH EVERY
ONE OF THOSE TYRANTS. >> THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT WE
SHOULD ALL FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW AT THIS. THE IT ARGUABLY THE
MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS UNFOLDING POLITICAL CAMPAIGN IS
THAT THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE WANTS TO BE IN THAT FRAME.
HE WANTS TO BE WALKING THROUGH SQUARES LIKE THAT. HE STOOD BY
HIS OWN ADMISSION. HE ADMIRES THAT HE ADMIRES THE
AUTHORITARIANISM. HE ADMIRES THE TOUGHNESS. AND I WOULD JUST
SAY TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS AND YOUR FRIENDS, TOO, WHO CONSIDER
THEMSELVES REAGAN, REPUBLICANS, LOOK AT THESE IMAGES AND EXPLAIN TO ME EXPLAIN TO US
WHY SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER IT IS IN THE
AMERICAN INTEREST TO SUPPORT WLADIMIR FOOD AND AGAINST UNITE
AGAINST AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AGAINST AMERICAN
INTEREST AGAINST THE THE LONGSTANDING SOMETIMES
AMBIVALENT, SOMETIMES UNSUCCESSFUL, SOMETIMES
CONTRADICTORY BUT PERSISTENT SUPPORT OF DEMOCRACIES AROUND
THE WORLD ON THE PART OF THE UNITED STATES, OUR COLLECTIVE
SECURITY AFTER WORLD WAR 2 WAS BASED ON THE IDEA THAT
DEMOCRACIES TENDED NOT TO GO TO WAR WITH EACH OTHER. ALL TALKER
SEES TENDED TO GO TO WAR AGAINST DEMOCRACIES. THAT IS
THE PATTERN. AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY
PREDICT THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DIAGNOSTIC GUIDE. AND IF YOU WANT TO END THE
GLOBAL STAKES OF WHAT WE'RE FACING, THAT THOSE ARE THE
IMAGES SHOW, YOU KNOW. >> IT'S IT'S WHAT WHAT'S SO
REMARKABLE HERE, JOHN, IS JON MEACHAM IS YOU LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP'S
WORDS AND WE'VE TALKED TIME AND TIME
AGAIN ABOUT THE PETER ALLURE REPUBLIC. SO AT THE END IN THE
CLUBHOUSE SITTING THERE, WELL, IT'S REPUBLICAN VERSUS
DEMOCRAT AND BIDEN. HE'S A SOCIALIST. HOW'S YOUR 401 K
MAKING MORE MONEY THAN EVER? HAUSER STOCKS UP TO OVER 4 BUT
BREAKING RECORDS EVERY DAY. BUT HE'S A SOCIALIST. SO I GET
I'M JUST GOING TO VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN ACTING AS IF THIS IS DOLE
VERSUS CLINTON IN 1996. LET'S LOOK AT THE WORDS AND
YOUR FRIENDS AND MY FRIENDS. HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY THE FACT
THAT THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERING VOTING FOR A GUY WHO CALLED
PRESIDENT XI THAT THE HEAD, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY WHO
ASKED HIM THAT MAR-A-LAGO REPORTEDLY ABOUT BUILDING
CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR WE JURORS AND TRUMP OFFHANDEDLY
SAID, YEAH, SURE. YEAH. IT SOUNDS GREAT WHO CALLED HE
PRAISED PRESIDENT XI AS BEING A INCREDIBLY POWERFUL WITH AN
IRON FIST, A BRILLIANT GUY WITH AN EYE ON FAST AND RESPECTED.
THE FACT HE HAD AN IRON FIST AND COULD REPRESS OVER A
BILLION OF THE CITIZENS. HE CALLED VLADIMIR PUTINS
INVASION OF RUSSIA. BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT. I SAY THAT TO ALL OF
YOUR FRIENDS AT THE 19TH HOLE IN MY FRIENDS AND AND THEN OF
COURSE WENT ON AND ON ABOUT HIS LOVE LETTERS TO KIM JONG UN,
THE MAN WHO IS CONSIDERED TO BE THE MOST BLOODTHIRSTY COMMUNIST
TYRANT ON THE FACE OF THE CUP. THIS IS WHO YOUR FRIENDS, SOME OF YOUR
FRIENDS, ALL MY FRIENDS, SOME OF YOUR FAMILY, SOME OF MY
FAMILY AND EVERYBODY ON FOX NEWS IS SUPPORTING. >> IT'S A IT'S ONE OF THE GREAT
PUZZLES OF THE NIGHT. AND I MEAN THIS. I LIKE I CAN ARGUE
THE DOMESTIC SIDE. I UNDERSTAND I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, BUT I
UNDERSTAND THAT TEXAS IN JUDGE'S ARGUMENT FOR
DOMESTICALLY SUPPORTING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, WHOEVER IT
MIGHT BE. AND BOY, WE HAVE NOW TESTED 3 TIMES WHOEVER IT MIGHT
BE. BUT THIS ONE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
TO ME. THIS IS A PARTY WHOS OF MODERN INCARNATION. MOST RECENT
INCARNATION BEFORE THE TRUMP OCCASION OF IT WAS RONALD
REAGAN'S PHILOSOPHY. THE COLD WAR, WE WIN, THEY LOSE. ALL RIGHT. IT WAS A NEGOTIATING
POSITION FROM THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE SCREEN ACTORS
GUILD WHO CALLED THEM AN EVIL EMPIRE AND THEN BROUGHT
GORBACHEV TO THE TABLE. AND THE SOVIET UNION DID FALLS ON
GEORGE HW BUSH'S WATCH CHRISTMAS DAY 1991, WITHOUT A
SINGLE AMERICAN TROOPS BEING IN A FORWARD COMBAT POSITION.
SOMETHING UNIMAGINABLE. BUT IT WAS THE PRODUCT YES OF A
BIPARTISAN COALITION. WHAT WE ARGUE ABOUT THE RELATIVE
PROJECTION OF FORCE AGAINST SOVIET TYRANNY. BUT WE NEVER
ARGUED ABOUT THE FACT OF SOVIET TYRANNY. NOT IN A SERIOUS WAY.
HERE YOU HAVE A 3 TIME REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR
PRESIDENT, RIGHT? WHICH IS ONLY WHAT WAS THE SCENE. NIXON GOT 4
TYPES. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE RECORD. SO DONALD TRUMP IS
CLOSING IN ON RICHARD NIXON AND HIS RECORD FOR WINNING THE
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION. WE HAVE A NOMINEE WHO ARGUES
THAT RUSSIA IS A MORE RELIABLE PARTNER THAN HIS OWN
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND SUPPORTS THE RAWEST KIND OF
AGGRESSION AGAINST NEIGHBORS, WHICH IS THE
TENET OF THE INTERNATIONAL ORDER. RIGHT? SO HOW DOES AND I I'M NOT ASKING
THIS IN SORT OF A MSNBC HYPERBOLIC AND, YOU KNOW,
MOMENT, HOW DOES REAGAN BUSH REPUBLICAN SUPPORT THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE
WHO PUTS NOT AMERICA FIRST, BUT PUTIN FIRST. HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY? WELL, AND >> AND NOT NOT JUST, JONATHAN,
WE'RE NOT JUST PUTTING FIRST OVER HIS OWN INTEL CHIEFS AND HE
APPOINTED. AND OF COURSE, YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. BUT AGAIN, THE PRICE IS THE LEADER OF
COMMUNIST CHINA AS A BRILLIANT AND WITH AN IRON
FIST PRIZE IS THE FACT THAT HE'S ABLE TO REPRESS OVER A
BILLION OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HE'S ABLE TO PUT WE JURORS OF
MILLION WE JURORS AND CONCENTRATION CAMPS, KIM JONG
HOON, AGAIN TALKING ABOUT LOVE LETTERS AND WHAT A REMARKABLE
RELATIONSHIP HE HAS WITH KIM JONG-UN OWN IT. AGAIN, THIS IS
AS JOHN SAID, THIS IS WHAT MOVES MY FAMILY. THEY WERE COLD
WARRIORS ALL ALONG FROM THE DEMOCRATIC TO THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY. IT'S WHY MY DAD LOVED RAY AND THEY WILL FIRST NIXON
AND THEN REAGAN SO MUCH BECAUSE THEY WERE TOUGH ON AN
COMMUNISTS. THEY WERE TOUGH ON TYRANTS. THEY WERE TOUGH ON AND
ON ON DICTATORS LIKE KIM JONG HOON WHO THREATENS STILL WEST
ALL THE TIME. WHO THREATENS AMERICA ALL THE TIME. TOUGH,
TOUGH ON ON. AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND
ON DOWN THE LIST. BUT JOHN'S, OF COURSE, EXACTLY RIGHT. THIS IS WHAT HELD THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY TOGETHER FOR SO LONG. THAT WAS THE FACT THAT
WE WERE WE WERE ALL CHILDREN OF REAGAN. WE, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORTED. WE BELIEVED IN
WESTERN DEMOCRACY. WE BELIEVED IN WESTERN FREEDOMS AND BELIEVE
THAT THERE WAS IN FACT, A BATTLE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST
POLITICALLY AND IDEOLOGY DOT IT DEFINED DOCTOR BRZEZINSKI IS
LIFE. IT DEFINED DOCTOR BRZEZINSKI WRITINGS AND LIKE
REAGAN. HE HAD A VERY SIMPLE VIEW AND MOST REPUBLICANS HAD
THIS VIEW AS WELL. THE STRATEGY FOR DOCTOR BRZEZINSKI THAN
STRATEGY FOR RONALD REAGAN. THE STRATEGY FOR JEANE
KIRKPATRICK, THE STRATEGY FOR SERVER. MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, THE
STRATEGY FOR FOR ROBERT GATES. WE WIN. THEY LOSE. DONALD TRUMP. HAS IT COMPLETELY
REVERSED. HE ATTACKS DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS
AND EUROPE WHO WHO ARE ARE FREELY ELECTED
AND HE HAD MYERS AND PRAISES COMMUNISTS, TYRANTS AND THE
U.S. AND AGAIN, THE POINT THERE IS, AGAIN, THAT'S WHO THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS LINING UP BEHIND THIS YEAR LIKE THEY DID
4 YEARS AGO LIKE THEY DID 8 YEARS AGO AND THEY WONDER WHY
THEY KEEP LOSING. >> YEAH, THERE'S A STRONG OUT
THERE. DONALD TRUMP HAS TRIED TO COZY UP TO HAND AND THIS IS
NOT A SECRET. HE'S DOING IT IN PLAIN SIGHT. REPUBLICANS KNOW
THIS AND YET THEY'RE VOTING FOR HIM ANYWAY. SOMEONE WHO WOULD
PRAISE PUTIN AND KIM JONG-UN, JEANNE JEAN PAIN AND THE REST
AND WE KNOW THE PRESERVATION OF DEMOCRACY IS A QUARTET FOR THE
BIDEN CAMPAIGN. THEY FEEL LIKE THAT WORKED IN TWENTY-TWENTY
LARGELY ON DOMESTIC ISSUES. THEY NOW FEEL LIKE IT EVEN MORE
IMPORTANT IN THE IN THE POST JANUARY 6 WORLD, BUT ALSO
INTERNATIONALLY WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN UKRAINE, THE WERE
THERE THAT YOU THAT THIS IS PUTIN AND AUTOCRATS TRYING TO
ILLEGALLY SEIZE A DEMOCRACY IN UKRAINE AND THEY FEEL LIKE THIS
WILL MATTER AGAIN. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS HAS
PICKED UP IN THE POLLS. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS
AS BUZZY ESSAY IN AND AS INFLATION OR OTHER MATTERS,
WHETHER JOE BIDEN IS TOO OLD, BUT THEY THINK THAT AMONG A
CORE GROUP OF AMERICANS, IN PARTICULAR, OLDER AMERICANS
WHO REMEMBER THE COLD WAR WHO CARE ABOUT THE STATE'S WHO CARE
ABOUT STANDING FOR DEMOCRACY, THAT THIS WILL MATTER, JOE,
THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WILL MATTER COME NOVEMBER. ALL RIGHT. AND STILL
