Antiques Roadshow UK Series 14 Episode 5 Enniskillen, Northern Ireland

they were very useful artifacts of the late eighteen from right throughout the 19th century yes young lady use them to write little Billy due to her loved one wherever they were and they traveled around with them hence this being really very robustly made in Rosewood with Branson though yes fun about these is everything that goes on inside have you explored it at all well yes I actually know there's a secret drawer oh is that predictably not so secret let's have you probably in here no but you see that's more interesting than should see control to have something like that on a piece of furniture or a little artifact is makes it much more of a collector's piece because I see hundreds without labels names at all and we don't know them either but this chap Dee Edwards is actually quite well-known because I think it's it's got the Royal appointment there because of that was quite a lot of documentation about its Regency and sums up late Georgian pre-victorian pair of the Regency so where's the secret drawing I think it's here now I'm not quite sure no no I hope I get this right no I think about that yes that's it right yes then they're not so secret now we've seen them before but any secrets in here no gold coins tucked away you've forgotten about or anything like that isn't that beautiful look at that that's the very best English craftsmanship mahogany line draws are extraordinary the detail on those dovetails then my new tie need of terrorism it's absolutely beautiful incredible work and all that detail because something that is essentially an everyday working little writing box I said we can close it it's such fun because it's the record the only record we have an English about where did you get this my husband acquired it at auction in County cabinets in Southern Ireland and I believed it belonged at that time to Eclair it was a clergyman's auction and actually those some odd since it is that was the only thing oh so he probably carried it around collecting his Jews or whatever yes what did it cost a dog from how long ago was it it's 20 years so I wanted cost then seven pounds are around something today in a shop in London very collectible and you know before Christmas or something like that it's Christmas present I can see someone paying certainly 600 650 pounds you'd be astounded when he hears this really not a thing just that they've been in my grandparents home for as long as I ever remember well the subjects are not difficult to identify what it says on the bottom Widow and Elijah and they are classic a classic combination of figures to find often in the late 18th century made of manufacturers and which arose from below church movement and Methodism made probably by something called Obadiah Sherrod the only pity is that as we see them now they're not as they left mister Cheryl's effect because you look here a problem there was a tree some pocket of colored branches up behind and the same occurs on him and more seriously I'm afraid almost certainly they stood this much off the ground and the little break in feet have got most of these you'll find sort of slightly raised doubtful you see in fact that he tips forward a bit but he's been chopped off unevenly but there were feet on each corner here which is a great pity if they are absolutely parking with their feet with hot cars not suffering trees up here they would be really expensive on our symbian expensive to 3,000 pounds but I have still for over six six ways under that's very interesting it is Irish us it's Dublin and they were very important Dublin flown in the 19th century sub second half the 19th century beginning of this century and what you've got there in Becky's West's retailers mark Stamper and their makers mark that's just the right one because that one that it's an interesting thing with Irish sober that you quite often get this maybe gets a makers mark and then a retailer smart and really when I first saw this I thought gosh 1858 in their beds so they're copying around 1915 well in 1915 that that 1850s styles this pear shape very typical I love the casting the animals have them then the mask underneath and on the four feet I always think actually they look a bit like trying evil monsters with enormous magic through some private evil forest on those legs that great head there and so on and the handle that's that's interesting actually with a silver hand board what of course you normally see if it big bits of my every inhalation haha but and they're the silver is buttons of the main part of the handle there's a pity the join just there and there right and they're butting up together now when I first saw that I thought gosh you or somebody has broken the eye every bit of it but the condition of such they don't do this case and it's borne out well it's exactly the same here so with that know some layers because there's no no need for it but there there's quite an unusual way of doing it so if we were to unpin it I didn't suggest to do but you'll find a bit of I every set inside that was probably to strengthen though not the strength there it was because saw was the best conductor of heat that there is so if you didn't have it there you'd have to wear gloves to pick it up which wouldn't be that crack yes so 1915 copying 1850s but pretty good condition I mean you're obviously looking after very well but I think to ensure it I would thought what two and a half thousand pounds our specialist from coins also does the arms well you've got the Christmas card which is very enough and there's the tobacco yeah that's an ounce of tobacco there's the 20 cigarettes a few missing but you haven't got the photograph of Princess Mary a sepia color photograph and of course the all essential thing isn't for the Pope's address they can get the book now for sure it's what we've got the Bala Council no no no the pencil went in between the cigarettes and the tobacco yeah and in fact on some of them they had a piece of card in the bottom yeah and the pencil slipped through so there you are but as it is now I mean you're looking at something worth in relation to 50 pounds called a lantern clock but the trouble is that the movements for the lantern are the same movements they have for the 30 hour long period and I have to tell you that I think that sometime in the past this has been I think put together the wheel work the center pilots Asian century properly lady but I'm not very happy only still probably worth five six hundred pounds I wouldn't cost that almost being if they've got the bullet pencil hundred pounds more so let's have a look-see what now you've got the Christmas card this is the rarity this is it what it was the meaning the trenches a lot of them just kept this but what they did do they took out this to right their Hut their letters home and of course these either got lost broken lost in the mud in the trenches in Flanders very rare but of course the thing is we've got to do a little bit of investigating here because that's this sort of piece of furniture now we come that looks all right this sort of furniture is so much in demand and has been broken and copied over the years that to establish that it is old is quite an important thing lovely colour underneath I like the disc here those are three old screws I don't think they've ever been moved wonderful got a nice cut at the turning is good I'm gonna pop that down here it's that part you see that tray actually lifts off and then you start again and the other bits of cetera there's been some wild since I was taken to pieces but it doesn't but of natural dust it does give us an opportunity to look at the variation in color where it's very dry inside there as it should be and then you get this beautiful patination from years of use now the trouble is with these dumbwaiters and the because you know it's called a dumbwaiter for the very simple reason that it enabled people to put extra dishes perhaps a cheese course in the dining room which they could wheel around behind them and not worry about being indiscreet whereas if you talked about private things in front of the staff you were prone to blackmail in the eighteenth century and so it is literally a dumb waiter and a very popular item too now I'm gonna turn it right over and we'll just balance it on its top there look at this wonderful plate under here that's totally original all those nails are handmade what we call clout nails the heads flatten little pieces of iron and then a rather crudely cut tri form plate absolutely right under here you can see the rough marking of where they sort of filed away from like that the surface but it was never going to be seen and it was left fairly rough and unfinished the casters fitted in beautifully this old gilding round they're absolutely marvellous mercurial gilding on those lovely casters so what we've got is an extremely good dumbwaiter 1775 1785 and a lovely three splay base and an important feature is that the cup turning is the same simply getting bigger all the way down you know these three pieces or a furniture that comes to pieces like this you've got six bits they must all be compatible and over the years they've often got to split up that's why it's such a nice and rare example and of course the important thing is that you've got a pair and an identical pair to it look at her now it's many many years since I've seen a pair one of these would probably make in the region of five and a half to six thousand pounds a pair as important as this should be in short for fifteen thousand that isn't really well they're just a wonderful wonderful dot and it's a joy to see me like you thank you very much for giving you all that thank you detailed you've got here the town arms gain a skill in towers the harp the Irish harp and crown above the arms again and the roads are England on the top you have the orb with the cross again a symbol of authority and you've got most wonderful arms on the top here of Queen Anne now we know from the marks yep they're there there but this particular mace was made by a David King in well between 1706 and 1708 in Dublin David King was apprenticed in 1681 and he became master of the company in 1699 so that gives you a measure of its importance now I believe that he when played with the fur man oh man he was a member of a well-known from aa father all right so it is possible that he himself might have donated the mace to the corporation at the time it's real quite a possibility that he did there the time but if so that makes it doubly interesting on the stem here you've got light engraving which twists around lovely soft fluid feeling to it again with these little brackets at the top here it is a perfect example of a mayoral mace it's a very very difficult thing to put a value on because it's not a sort of piece of silver that collectors would go for because there's so few of them about but there's no real market as such on the other hand it is a highly important piece of Queen and silver do you happen to know what it's in short we're at the mill you don't well I would think that if you wanted to insure it knowing that it went you'll be able to buy some other super visa cream and silver I think I'd be looking between 150 and 200 thousand pounds don't think it's about much our Islands find tradition of art is certainly not limited to the men women from the 18th century until today and very important today women have played a major part and here we have a little watercolor by Mildred and Butler been long in the family well we're not quite sure but we actually found it in an old folder down in the Attic really britain and ireland didn't really know very much about Milton our Butler until very recently the automated 1880s so here we have just exactly what she's become known for a very fresh pretty bright atmospheric water color beautifully painted I mean you must must have been a great thrill to you to find this well I think when we first found it we didn't know that it was it as expression but you had it friend we had it pray because we like to picture and you've enjoyed it ever since know you've enjoyed it yes you find works by her and the Tate Gallery the Austin Museum the National Gallery of Ireland somebody came to the house one day and told us who that who the artist was or that it was quite valuable but we don't know how anything perhaps you could tell us well the value is for insurance what it would cost you to buy it in an art gallery around eight to twelve hundred pounds mm-hmm so you should be insuring it around it well this is all a great collection oblique or a lot of a sight to see here this is all your collection yeah how long to get by 15 20 years and I suppose some of these very difficult to find out what I've always admired about Malik and in the poster then this lovely Aryan body is this incredible translucence you know you could see through it so fantastically and I think the quality is is truly marvelous and this is of course mr. Oscar yes but drinking you have a great the stars should have you I'm gonna start soon dude you use the Americans like these they they may have the starch plows and they collect these things of a they beat together they made me if they have gone to the stars they have to for a while then put it on and then they could be and they're determined to find a bleak left hand in the stars go I mean I would that with the blades on the other side war they're very rare have you no sense Prytania as well to work on rather that one dead sound maybe that smokes not come through in the same way survived rather better that's unusual 1870 1880 rather sweet baby our night believe isn't it and there is no collectors value the watch 9 karat gold is worth perhaps 100,000 believe it on the chain which is also gold with another stitch it's stranger here in Ireland everybody likes these citrine signals seen lots of them today but the chain on the seal are probably worth between 120 150 because there's more demand for the change and there actually is for the watches I think the pride of the Vig is this wonderful orange of artist dr. bedlo how long do you have this job not too long well there was one injured American of catalog I did pinch them whatever thousand pounds the flower modeling is beautiful this night and I think this work of the flowers is absolute about every little petal separately made and built onto the flower great tour de force of pottery well now we leave our experts just for a moment for me to tell you about the Radio Times competition you'll remember each week you have the opportunity of winning an Antiques voucher worth two and a half thousand pounds which you can then spend on antiques of your choice so it really is well worth while having a go before we look at this week's competition object the answer to last week's posing the question was in which country was this rug made and the answer is Persia or as it's now known Iran this type of rug would be made in the town of Kishan in northwest Persia and it depicts the story of Baram girl from the 11th century book of Kings a great Persian classic and so to this week's competition object and here it is a really magnificent ring you'll see the centerpiece of it is this a beautiful cabochon cut emerald in a girl setting which has been worked in fine detail obviously by a highly skilled craftsmen the oval bezel there with its decorative borders is supported by two collared snakes heads now a ring like this has a rather timeless policy about it it looks old and yet at the same time it's also striking enough to be fashionable today it could have been made in Roman times or on the other hand at any period during the last two hundred years when these sort of ancient styles and designs have enjoyed a revival so that really leads us to the question at around what date was this ring made now it went to the competition you'll probably find it helpful to look at a copy of next week's Radio Times which gives you more details and even so far as to suggest a few possible answers and then your entry should be in the post and postmark please before next Saturday stand a chance of winning incidentally your entry should be addressed to the Radio Times and not to the antiques well that's it another competition object at the same time next week in the meantime back to our experts and the people of them in the school they're late dogs with that yes and they're actually all check your plate yes and in wonderful condition now what's marvelous first of all you can have small dinner party pair of candlesticks and then go up a skirt sir what in the branches in they then take that one off we've got if we go to the first stage actually so now lovely pair to like and long past Christmas March you can go further these are detachable Sam when he walks so you like that that's Christmas that's Christmas or and that's ideal obviously for a nice on long tables so then on to a with that and they're a single and that's alright that's new further because then you take that out and they've got a byway sorry there's everything there that you really possibly want every pair of candlesticks to like 3 light onto the single for light and then simplify super big it's a wonderful thing to have survived in that sort of stage say what about well it's family so it's only going to get ready for that I would say you've got to ensure that for one and a half thousand pounds it's love it's love many thanks to bring you there I love thank you and what I think is particularly fascinating about this is the fact that you quite clearly got this ripple decoration where they have cleverly joined the veneers together it's very very thin slice of veneer I mean almost as thin as a piece of paper they journeyed together very craftily in this naturalistic way to make it blend in so instead of having a hard straight line and all the best Victorian workshops did that this table is a reproduction it's not did you suspect I didn't want to say no and how old would have been or if it was reproduction I just didn't know where did you get info it's just been handed down in the family I think it belonged to my great-grandmother the lungs were great man that's what I am think all right well the trouble is family here same time tradition can obviously are often extend the day life considerably because quite frankly I think this is no more than about 20 years old and when I first started I wasn't immediately suspicious at all but when you get closer the freshness of the color the fact that there's no depth of color there's no antique fascination as we call it no years of dirty fingers wax being spilt on it from candles children scribbling on it doing their homework especially modern short with a bar and just food being spilt on it wiped over and years and years of quality it doesn't have that patination so that's the first thing that made me suspicious but I think that the the real giveaway perhaps is underneath as we just never quick knit underneath but you just help me with it to come out the front of it just tip him back I think when you start looking at the underneath if you've looked at it underneath any pieces of antique furniture remembering this is supposed to be 1850 this is all been painted up to make it look like sort of false training its artificially aged it's not fake it's been made just to sort of give it a bit of patination and it's a bit dirty underneath it's copied faithfully this sort of brass catch which would have on Georgian Victorian tables but even the brass work doesn't have quite the depth of colour it's not quite as robust to be made as an antique one would be the base when you look at it especially is got a bit dusty wherever it's been stored again has this feeling of aged it's exactly faithful to the old ones of the 1850s but it's more likely in 1960 have you any idea how much this is worth as a reproduction nothing well the an old table light is an old Victorian one in this sort of good condition and a good big generous 8 seater table which is the piece of the would sell from good at least 5,000 pounds and that's probably being conservative so you have a reproduction then let's call it a fake yeah that horrible work but even as a reproduction I think it would cost you over a thousand pounds to buy second-hand as this is and more to buy a new copy oh I have to say that when we came over to Northern Ireland I didn't think one thing I was going to find today was a really good Dutch clock but certainly got one here the perhaps most interesting part about this cops you see them quite often they look great rarities but it's not very big by Dutch standards and all it looks large if we take start at the top the usual - marquetry clock you have the figures these have got good original figures but you can get these clocks up to two even three feet higher than this which makes them almost impossible to get into the average home so when they come in a good small size they are considered mere error but one interesting feature about Dutch clocks as against English wines is that the doors are made in a single piece we can take their vases English will normally have a pleat across the top you can stop it from bowing some reason I think that that's clocks those tend not to bands they tend to keep their shape but they're always made in a single piece this is a very typical feature of Dutch work - is the application of a panel on the door which again represents Father Time cast lenta call on the door and again absolutely classic Dutch work is the Bombay base with the floor and feet now I put the date of this case in the middle of the 18th century and this man Yan cooky who actually his name's on the movement and he is recorded as working in the late 17th century this clock is clearly it well into the 18th century probably pushing towards the middle it's so traditional Dutch where he goes on typically the case marketer there's right on through the agency even in the 19th century a few interesting features very difficult of Dutch docks the spandrels which represent four seasons but garland of flowers pour the right corn the wine harvest and the cold winter with the fire these are actually silver by the way the moon phase which is being taught and beautiful engraving is engraved clouds and a small castle it's all engraved silver and inset and black wax to give you the almost three-dimensional view and the moon itself is also a brave face grave-robber border again ringed on the winding holes highly decorated around the calendar date everything very decorative an English truck of the same period that dial would be much plainer it wouldn't have so much decoration now you know collective talks by Wales this is something that's a well as something that I've had for quite some time some cops have been in the house hence it has increased my aware of my appetite for the word I suppose would be a very rude question to ask and I should pay for it well actually I bought it privately so that being the case I wouldn't like to say okay but I should give you a very today's market and I think you probably would have denied your topic that's something that all about ten thousand pounds that is right and then let their like manner their after a minority or jump ammonia these years very Mannerist yes and like Annette yes Haley called a friend temper yes and this is probably meant to be read at the end the fighting is done a series labelled D but it's done and silly but they are the under party yes again sort of German Austria you think you know everything characteristics of a wmf yes yeah when he's got all these mold numbers not English I think whether it's really talking about thousands and in this condition even in this condition I mean it's got to be worth country because it is a really good toy you read the back quiet sunshine company number do you know what handle is Staffordshire England just very very famous place plates like these and they're worth probably 25 to 30 pounds each way you should do you should go in all the antique shops so tell me how did your mother come by this actually she bought it at an auction what are you paying into two pounds really yes and was it in this condition or have you just miss mistreated it because it's a no actually there was a bigger frame on the panade yes we move towards like a book they got broken it was put up and out again he was taken down again really but what about all these little hell's a long story act like they were done with dark well I suppose it's not unusual children playing darts in fact quite honestly it doesn't really matter that's minimal damage it's in perfect condition yeah well the one thing we can find out about it which is obvious is that it's by jus Hibernia because here it is signed and dated 1888 if you read the French textbooks you will find the jewel Taverna was born probably in the 1830s in Paris and he lived there and he studied and he exhibited a few pictures in the 1860s and 70s and then he disappears off the face of the earth but there is a parallel artist who does the same sort of thing Paul Gauguin who reappears in Tahiti the interesting thing about Taverna is that he reappears in Hawaii and really Hawaii has no European artists as such in the 19th century to represent it except one man George a venue and Sylvania was there and he painted these extraordinary pictures of the Hawaii Hawaiian volcanoes which are really rather wonderful if you think of them in that way and you think that at this time would never be opportunity but if you like his Hawaii's answer to go game not in the same manner but and is certainly not at the same price but very exciting artist when this pitch is cleaned we will see suddenly come out not only the whole drama of the scene but you will see this wonderful smoke rising the foreground with the smoke rising in the background the whole thing as it were will come together the foreground will come forward the background will go back and you will have this beautifully romantic extraordinary romantic scene of a boiling volcanic than in the middle of the 19th century although they didn't pay huge amounts of money [Music] he is collected and this is a very good one a large one and I would say is probably worth in the region of ten fifteen thousand who threw the dart it's not supposed to do that it should actually not the figures here on the dial shouldn't move when the clock strikes they should move when the pendulum so obviously at some time is history they've disconnected from the pendulum and connected to the strike but they should actually all these little men here should be hammering away in their workshop all the time the clocks running not just any strikes anyway it's fascinating because this is a day for Dutch clocks there's a harvest that's non-case here and now this crop which allowed signed by Thomas Jackson of London it was either made in England for the Dutch market or made in Holland for the English markets because there are certain characteristics which two natives of having Dutch connections most of all is the dial which has this arcaded minute ring we call it arcaded minute minutes where they the minutes instead of being a plain circle they're actually done in arcades and indeed the is seen in the painted scene in the top with the shoeing shop and Smith's shop are very difficult of Dutch talks also the size it's a large size of clock there is a record of Thomas Jackson working in London in the end of the 17th century he was in the clock makers company ethic of 1688 but this clock has got to date from somewhere closer to about 1714 it's on the large size to say and it got these finials on the top here which I think have probably been added later there was a fashion of the early part of the century for black clocks to put finials on the top to make them more deck it was just a standard practice amongst leaders even collectors to decorate them up a bit we turn it round we can see maybe why the automaton has been connected now to the striking rather than we were going to this has been converted this clock to from verge escapement a name that risking anything even by looking just looking at it it becomes quite evident this enormous the oversized pendulum which is typical for an anchor escapement originally would have had a small Bob pendulum and a verjus capered and as I say it apart from just the technical aspect of it it also covers up this opinion and covers up a large amount of the fine engraving on the back but it was again it was common practice in the 19th century in the 18th century and to convert the tops from the verge escapement to the rushing for alarm and nowadays connectors go and put them back to what so it should be a smaller pendulum it should be a little but just a little Bob on a wire which would be permanently connected to the verge escapement yes and here you've got a large locking nut it's actually been also in fact a word of warning before you take it home put that in there that has action to knock the pendulum secure so that it doesn't look about when you're moving okay black tops Barnes black rocks are a bit out of fashion at the moment but the saving grace is the automata which is a rare venture so whereas who perhaps would say 2,000 pounds in this club normally because of the automata you can certainly dump it at four to five thousand pounds a pair of Austrian candlesticks very much in the style of an swallow most being make herb yes very Art Nouveau with this lovely sinuous for their very very sweet rather beautiful and I suppose in a date about 1900 it looks right maybe value I suppose we're going to be about 300 pounds when they like that but they're rather pretty this dish is very very beautiful it's um made by pratter Fenton in in a wonderful a process called color printing developed by an Jesse Austin is interestingly his name is down here on this dish here Jesse Osteen was the originator of these things he worked at Davenport first of all and thought up this process of printing in color this this isn't printed and painted over were printed in under the graph this is printed in lots of little tiny bits of colors which are put on in little stages and what like a jigsaw puzzle built up extremely complicated and this was one of the great successes of the new process shown at the Great Exhibition of 1851 and this actual dish were not this dish but a similar one with the same pattern apprised in the cornfield was actually shown at the Great Exhibition to create excitement how did you acquire it my mother bought it as a children sale the old yet have a large court oh it's gold yes I think it wasn't a give out in mistake hey because the lady that won't do it said it shouldn't have been advocated that it was another one already in a very nice half of crowds no I think probably that half the crowd has increased to about 250 300 pounds or so by the house this I think is the ultimate in graphs with you this is of course ado I believe now at our local tab we've had a a lotta bolete here I gotta pick it up and enjoy this piece and go overseas I think the quality of baking is really quite that the person has the first period belief mark about 1870 and the mirror is framed with an mottled lilies-of-the-valley which are quite superb when you think that all of these leaves all these flowers are individually fashioned by fingers and then built in used as a mirror all the time well not really Malik father went aimsweb shouldn't I used to shave was it your idea idea what's what there was one sold over in the United States a year or so ago and it went for several thousand pounds so the piece which is you know gonna be at least that I should take two thousand two thousand five hundred pounds so doc used as a bureau for shaving people have abused with love I'm sorry a very safely and so I afraid we come to the end of our brief visit to Enniskillen we've had a marvelous day here and you know the thing I think I'll remember most about our time in this part of Northern Ireland is the sense of humor of the local people yeah a woman came in this morning and she said the thing about Fermanagh is that for three months of the year the lakes are in for mana and for the other nine months the manor is in the lakes because it rains so much actually that's not been our experience at all it's been a fine day in every sense of the word and our warm thanks to the people of this part of Northern Ireland oh and incidentally just before we go a quick reference back to Farnham where we were if you remember last week and Simon Bull saw there what he thought was a 16th century gold clock well we've now had a second opinion on on it and it's absolutely confirmed that Simon was right first time including his valuation of between thirty and fifty thousand pounds so it was a major discovery for the Antiques Roadshow who knows what we'll find next week at the same time when we're in Wiltshire I very much hope that you'll join us then until then from all of us here in Northern Ireland goodbye [Music]

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Keywords: Antiques Roadshow, Antiques Roadshow UK, Antiques Roadshow Series 14, BBC, BBC 1, BBC 1 1992, VHS, VHS 50fps, 50fps, Rare TV, Hugh Scully, Enniskillen, Northern Ireland, Enniskillen Northern Ireland, Irish Silver Tea set, Belleek pottery, Town Mace, Roy Butler, Simon Bull, John Bly, Christopher Payne, George Archdale, Paul Atterbury, Bunny Campione, Margie Cooper, Eric Knowles, Peter Nahum

Id: wil8Z7QJYQY

Length: 40min 57sec (2457 seconds)

Published: Fri Nov 09 2018