Antiques Roadshow UK Series 14 Episode 4 Farnham, Surrey

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this week they include john by who i know is already extremely enthusiastic about some of the furniture he's seen being brought in also with us his bunny Campione she's on the lookout for any interesting toys and dolls over on pottery and porcelain we have david batty who's joined this week by terrence locket and pictures are the province of david collins with fellow expert philip hook simons bull will of course be covering clocks watches and scientific instruments so let's now join our experts with the people of far picked it up at a local store a secondhand junk shop retaining Island where we were living 40 years ago oh right and he paid I think about 10 pounds for it hey dude I used to keep all my baby teeth in it something ironic about keeping teeth in a cabinet made of ivory yeah of course he's actually a tooth anyway this is a very appropriate yes I'm glad you've a decanter King now that's nice this is Japanese and it dates from around the end of the last century about 1890 to 1900 and they made large numbers of these miniature cabinets really for export they weren't for domestic Japanese consumption the nice thing about this one is that is the quality of it it's extremely well decorated with lacquer in different colors and then tiny touches laden with iridescent shell and the subject matter on here is of a Japanese hero he's called Agora no hinder and he kills this enormous serpent which was large enough to swallow a man and that's what he's doing on here yes and then of course we've got the usual subject of birds flying around we've got nice scene on the top of a cockerel and a hen and on the side here we've got this beautiful I suppose it's supposed to be at the pheasant isn't it a Chinese person and then on the back cranes now of course the Manchurian or redheaded crane is a symbol of long life in the east yes as indeed is the pine tree so there may be but some sort of idea there and here we've got Mount Fuji Fujiyama the Japanese mountain opening up a whole lot of different tools here for different purposes and a little tiny show the corners I see are inlaid with abound with copper this would fetch somewhere in the region of two to three thousand pounds oh that's a bit worrying there's a good tank Wordsworth isn't it your clock belongs to a small grooves that are still somewhat contentious in their history exteriorly we have a relatively straightforward non case clock it potentially a London case but it could even be provincial the door is Australian clean rectangular we have a plane figuring now none of the flamboyant flame patent coming down to the base you will actually notice here in fact awesome they've replaced the kick but they've even rather built it up it may be that somebody wanted in higher or probably the bottom edge of this plinth rotted and they supported it with this and you can quite clearly see it's in Pine yes so there's nothing very special about the case except going right up again to the top up here we've got three holes that somebody has later broken through to let the sound out this fret was originally backed by probably a silk which over the years with polish and wax has just gone so dark there were there were piercing holes certainly at the top here four frets for the sound to come out but I think these are rather later they're so badly placed I think that damage was done in our own house actually about ten years ago young fingers Peyton tells it is erotic it's one young daughter the interesting point about the clock is the dial now this style is in enamel there are clocks with enamelled Al's but to have a whole square in enamel and to have it painted with this manganese decorated Rococo design is very rather of probably no more than about 20 clocks known with this sort of done that the controversy is where they were painted and I don't claim to be an expert on English enamels into the late 18th century but Staffordshire is one possibility that's built in Factory and the other possibility is Battersea and some people go towards battleship because the painting is very fine if we can take the hood off there's one other interesting feature it's basically a conventional clock but there is one other feature that do you notice with all these take the lived out in order to fit these dials and you can see well here this is a thin copper plate yes with a counter enamel because it's so thin that if you didn't enamel both sides it would basically it wouldn't hold it the bucket will grow and they always have a full plate or plate in between which is this plate here brass heavy brass plate to support the enamel dial on to the movement all right and that's classic of all the three or four examples I've seen and I'm sure of the others were you saying you've only seen 20 I had a China face there I really know of 20 yes I certainly haven't seen 20 no I've seen three or four crocks myself with them and also a couple of bracket clocks and they're all similar they're all using the same decoration on the dial it's a strangely the value is not and is extremely rare but the value is not thirty they're worth about 3,000 3,500 it is it's more than we thought but we're delighted it's a we're done time a welding part yes not just any old flame right now this is what I suppose we would call a tortoise shell it lays on a cream we're body that's a certain wielding is a generic name for these tortoise shell wears yes it's been in our family for many years oh yes this particular point to be a particular parent only any family connection yes well the same name I mean you are mr. Wyndham I'm one of the best oh well perhaps we should say that Thomas wheeldin was a very famous Potter in stoke-on-trent Fenton Libyan apophysis in the 1750s and 1760s right from episode and in fact was a partner or had as a partner a great desire word yes sir in fact Josiah Webb though which would was an apprentice of wheels-up yeah well it's a very very unusual and lovely little object with the the dog mask and everything to it is it going to go on in the family because it is extremely rare I don't think I've ever seen one quite like it reporter just what you might call common a garden objects like this there would be literally two a penny if not more to a penny yes and would easily get broken 17:50 baps it was made in 60 something like that we were to see it in a major antique fair it would be valued it well I don't know it's terribly difficult because they don't come up for sale well over a thousand pounds this duck sugar box isn't it isn't the normal object that I see on road trip I mean it is a marvelous quality piece and just been picking it out the actual weight of silver is tremendous and something that makes this extra weight on this piece is the extraordinary fact that the most the majority of it is cast when you see something like this there is a tea pot or a tea caddy or something that's a hollow where piece not it's actually a sheet silver that's beaten and raised up but here this is cast in sections and then seemed at and that's why it's such tremendous weight and the decoration I think is lovely it's beautifully defined Rococo Scrolls in shale work the marks are a little bit indistinct we can't tell who that who the maker is but it is it is an Amsterdam one and it appears to me to date from the early sixth 1760s about 1764 and that's the date that for that year Dutch silver of of the mid 18th century is well sought-after and can be valuable the wonderful quality of a heavyweight the fine decoration I think it's going to make it this whole thing that we would probably estimated option around four thousand pound and it could well and it could well do those eyes go up dancing I got a call it's rust inside this once pride besides that he has not it's actually very of music and I should think it might have been in a shop then yes they were oh there it is a lot of say you know in a doll market that probably was couple of hundred pounds just the possessor you know this really is a most splendid example of a Neapolitan wash ships portrait by an artist called Nicola puny showing grain made of Milford in the Bay of Naples this type of art today is being caught by Italian bars for taking back to Naples and it's sort of our odds yet in the first place it was obviously commissioned by the Masters about to bring back to here is value today would be somewhere in the region of around say two to two and a half thousand pounds at auction it represents what it's the white slave trade very naughty it's Austrian Pelle painted is it yeah but they're very collectible hilarious these were made impossible at the end of the last century and I think they're great far they're underrated I mean the idea goes back to France in the 16th century right here we've got one made simply for decoration by step I have one of these I loved it it stood on the floor by the cellar steps and then my wife kicked it down the steps one day and I clean the Medici D standard mark on the back that's going to be worth in the region 150 this pair of pistols which have normally known there's powder pistols by collectors because when they were out hunting Tigers in the back of elephants they often had a large caliber pair of pistols in case the tiger came up the back of the elephants who tried to swarm over the top and attack the men and how de da decide they were very popular with army officers because they gave for guaranteed shots with the pair and they could easily be stuck into the coattail pockets and these particular ones are of 16 bore which is the military pistol service cartridge of the time so this would be the sort of thing that a young subaltern going out to India who is fairly well heeled would go into rodders of Piccadilly who also had an office in Calcutta and hence the Indian connections and if he were reasonably well off he would be able to afford a pair of these pistols but obviously in those days officers armed themselves and found all their own kit and they are a good quality pair pissed was made in London and we can tell the quality is good because we look there they have a patent breech with a little screw there that you can to give it a very thorough cleaning there to make sure that doesn't misfire and the barrels are of best quality Damascus twist which is wire wrapped around a former and then hammered at white heat so you get a very strong barrel almost with an elastic quality that will enable it to withstand the charge and yet not be so brittle that it would burst direct they come in their original box and somebody who was out on campaign or traveling would have had everything he needed to maintain his best doors do see ammunition keep them loaded are they family as a small child I remember not feeling very well in embed or something probably used to get him out and throw them to me just to perk me up a VSO no they certainly would have put me at the bottom so yes you should certainly insure them for 2,000 pounds at least and you can see that the the temporaries cut that way to give those longstreet so that down along the grain then it's later on herringbone fashion opened up and they judge the position to give that sort of Chevron type and then this is cut as you kind of these French bread straight across to show the medal arrays of the timber laid on often done in laburnum as well but the nice thing about this is that it is used all the way through and all the moldings laid on in little sections yes as you would expect the beginning of the 18th century so really it's a remarkable little cabinet a perfect piece in miniature about 1760 95 1700 and all the original handles when we open it up here they are absolutely delightful look at that this is a collector's delight but also refining that to a collector of you would I mean there are collectors of furniture made of you and this is as fine as examples you will ever see I do love these I think that is this is quite magic to see mercury Li gilded handles they've never been washed off never been rubbed of their guilt absolutely denied nice dovetails absently one would expect to see and this Redell stuff is all original was a sort of preservative they put on at the time there's one thing that doesn't treat me there's a gap there something missing oh it's a secret drawer isn't it yes he wants have no secrets very very nice very nice well now what is the story and is how long have you had it I'm about 30 or 40 years and is it a family wanted that no I bought it at the antique dealers fairground hush I must ask you how much you paid for it 40 pounds for what do you have goodness gracious me I suppose there was a lot of money then was a lot of money for electronics I think it would cost you about four thousand today if you were to buy if you could find one as nice as this and it's still delight it's a question did you like it good yeah I like it too let's let's start at the top and I mean first of all explain that of course it the silver is encasing glass iridescent glass and it's one of those things that you I can see from a hundred yards and know immediately that we're looking at a piece of works glass I had a police in South Wales last year which was of a more elaborate form but for my money the silver overlay wears or they've got that little bit of extra I have to admit that it was one of life's mysteries to me our nerf they managed to blow the glass into the flower do you ever given that a bit of thought good I'm glad it's not just me well the secret is that they don't that what happens is you've got this lovely iridescent glass it's known as puppy on glass or butterfly but if I glass because if he we just turned it it is how it catches it sort of like a butterfly's wing is wonderful lurid essence will they do it by a process of electrolysis and basically what they do is they they build up a layer of silver in any in the design area and then they just gently if there's any residue they just carve it away and then there's a certain amount of hand finishing very similar in staff to tiffany guns but lurtz in austria working in roundabouts this probably dates from about 1900 it's always been it's always been thought of as being the sort of for cousin - tiffany which is not fair because it stands like they were making glass before Tiffany at this time so I suppose value comes into it at some stage doesn't it you ever given any thought no well let's get to the point until you it's worth between eight to twelve hundred pounds so be careful when you're polishing it good well not we leave our tables for a moment for the new competition which we're running in conjunction with Radio Times you may indeed remember the competition last year it was a great success so here we go again and it really is Renault well worthwhile having a go because every week there'll be a chance of winning a voucher to the value of two and a half thousand pounds which you can then spend on antiques of your choice and so to the first competition object and here it is this marvellous rug which was woven nearly a hundred years ago and it uses in its design a fairly well-known legend of the 11th century and the legend is of a famous Huntsman which we see here astride his horse and he's apparently boasted to his lover he's such a good shot he can actually pin the hind leg of a gazelle against its ear with his arrow and that is precisely what is done the legend however goes on to say that the lover was not in the least bit impressed and so she is cast aside and trampled on now the detail in this work really is just amazing down to the fish here swimming in the river below the bird's nest here in this tree and just look at this even the nails here in the horse's hoof the rag is woven from the finest quality wool which is what gives it this marvelous velvety texture and it comes from an area very well known for the making of fine quality rugs and they used figurative subjects such as this and also more unusual floral designs and so to the question in which country was this rug made now you might find it helpful to look at a copy of the new Radio Times which as well as giving you more details of the competition also goes so far as to suggest a few possible answers and then your entry needs to be in the post and addressed the Radio Times not the Antiques Roadshow postmarked before next Saturday and if you do all that you'll stand a chance of winning as I say this two and a half thousand pound antiques voucher well the answer to this week's question and another competition next week in the meantime back to our experts and the people of Farnum this is Putney's 1946 in fact that pattern was brought out in about 1850 his first time and it must be before 1833 the stone became Copeland the garret evicting research by a difference and a lovely punishment brings beautifully I mean that is really very desirable for a speculator probably worth something the region of six to eight that's absolute and of course that's porcelain it's a single piece now that one probably a little more because of its shape it's a it's a decorator space rather than the collectors booster 750 pounds in more than that yeah yeah but it with all its basis yeah it's probably more than that but it really is about me now very nice if you want to see where the telescope's gonna work he's not brokered the West mr. look something wrong oh I see then you can see whether you see the practicing lenses oh I see which I'm cause distortion oh it's all right I think this is the finest bit of Ruby bohemian Ruby glass if I've ever seen the Antiques Roadshow it's it's enormous absolutely fantastic presumably you knew that it where it came from where was massive yes I don't know the history I know the history within our family but I don't know the history further back we can trace it back to 1860 right exactly I think it was probably made perhaps even 1850 usually you give a date of 1860 Bavarian glass whether it's Ruby flash like this or the overlay type but this is the most wonderful time here I think because the engraving is quite superb yeah there's a similar one I'm sure in the V&A museum of this proportions yes I bet they give you a value I suppose not even sure I want you to put two nice listen well I think you should probably insure it for say two thousand pounds yes and it would sell for say 1,500 to 2,000 pounds that's no wonder this though we don't always keep [Music] this definitely English it says English apartment BL has made it wait 11930 anyway he's such fun and there are people that collect you've got lost badly I don't if I got value to the English Troy we're talking about it's really a very very charming thing is that it's this this very beautiful girl walking through the woods with a basket of foul and you even see little titles with pictures in the dungeons oh these brutes of fowls she's saying the artist is Edward Henry this particular pictures we can see down here was painted in 1851 he's put his nice little Alex there with our eye in it which means that he was a member of the Royal Institute of painters and he was obviously proud of that as well he might busy with his pallet down there to tell me I mean dude you know about Porter yes I do oh really so he didn't recognize it came from him it was given by the artists too and it's been in your family ever since then Colberg was an interesting artist because one he was a member of a family of artists in several other corbels who were artists and secondly he was connected between victoria wasn't there yes he taught her he told him he was a join us well one can see from the quality of the drawing and this that he was obviously extremely good draft in the drapery of the way the dress forms it's very very lovely that's jolly nice but I I'm also very intrigued by this picture my mother-in-law water [Music] did she could she yes it's possibly one of the most famous pictures the image that were painted in the nineteenth century it's the horse fair and the original is by Rosa Bonheur of the great French animal painter and one of the great female pages of the nineteenth century and this picture the original of which is absolutely enormous is now in the Metropolitan Museum in New York there's a picture that many many artists painted almost a part there's an act of homage and partly trying to emulate Rosa Bonheur and this is actually rather a good one I've seen many copies of it but the policy of some of the pinching India vertically for instance this head here is very beautifully done and makes one think that possibly it is by an artist who was in his own right quite a good for Specter who that is I'm not sure we've got them in sword individually I think you should I mean the poor world is a very lovely thing that probably should be insured for about five thousand pounds this one I stink similar sort of a man I baby English East India Company which was founded back in the 17th century shipped enormous quantities of porcelain from China to English I mean three million pieces of blue and white porcelain in one year in the mid 18th century kind of a quantity where the heavy salt gone I have no idea but it's not around anymore and they were only dealing in blue and white porcelain the colored porcelain was organized as a private venture by a man who worked for the company called the super or super of cargo and he went to China he was the one who bought the right quantities five thousand cups five thousand sauces ten thousand plates and he organized all that what he was also allowed to do was trade on his own behalf as indeed belong lead members of the crew and what he used to do was when he was back in England he would organize for landed gentry in this country to have their coats of arms painted on Chinese porcelain and should back and what you had to do was to get the College of heralds to draw up your arms within the right colors and this was then sent to China and the Chinese propagated now this was a problem because of course the Chinese didn't understand what they were doing they didn't understand the human figure in the way we understand it they didn't understand the writing they got no clue what it all meant and they led to the most marvelous misled Elisabet absolutely now here we've got one which is actually quite a good representation I imagine of the arms I don't know it offhand we've got the motor up here this I'll defend what had clearly happened was that the the either the supercargo warned more likely the Lord himself had written the armorial bearings of the Lenox underneath just so that everybody knew what it was good shot the general title the Chinese are said hard this must go on and they've copied aloud which is marvelous no completely right removing their time if it would have written today with a boat's burger that's right yes in fact there's a very famous occasion where one one grammar the management it was so mean that he didn't have the college of heralds draw it up in colors as it should have done he tore a book played out of one of his books in the library stuck it on a bit of card and wrote red green gold blue and this is red green cuz they copied it exactly and of course they're much rarer and he must have broke the whole lot in disgust they fetch a lot of money this one dates from the what about seventeen fourteen seventeen and fifty the quality of the painting the flowers is actually exceptionally good and this way the border makes it that little bit better than the majority of them the value I think would probably today be somewhere in the region of 700 two thousand pounds perforated this was on a barge years well in 1945 when the war ended we were in Oxford and housing was short and a lot of people lived on the river at Oxford you know the old Barroso powered this woman my mother rented one of these and these were the only two things she'd salvaged from the war and her wreck life and these were meant continuity and she went everywhere with them so they went onto the barge and then the barge sank so this has been underwater well not quite because we dashed on the blog and tags that's the only the two things she wanted to save so we say well apparent from that I mean it's it they are two exemplary pieces of furniture but they're not the same I guess I know they're not and this is really why I'm so interested because they show the revival one the original one the revival this cabinet was made in the revival of the 18th century style for classicism and Saturn would furniture and painted decoration which would have been round about 1780 1785 at the end of the city yes but this is a revival piece the point about this is that it shows all the design features that one would expect to see on a piece of the 1890s yes rather than the 1790s of a hundred years before in fact that here in the earlier one was the first time that these exotic Timbers were used with painted decoration what is the timber I mean I'm this is Santa this is Saturday and then you have some evany stringing around the doors and sort of this is what and then you've got gilt metal max enriching it it's a very very fine beats of its type now the interesting thing is that when this was bought it was more valuable and thought more highly than the earlier one now in the late 18th century plain satin wood furniture was very popular yes so you have a perfectly good eighteenth-century Pembroke table of satellites then great-grandfather buys a piece of news as it would with painted decoration what more natural than you take this along to a quality an artist and give him revive it and paint it to match the news and this is done in all fields of fact really so this is older this opal is AIT's this by war a hundred years which is absolutely wonderful you see here how severe this note yes yes well now the addition of these flowers of festoons does nothing for it if this had intended to be painted it would have been of a lighter design not so severe the stringing would have been less architect yeah and the handles would have been part of the design yeah instead of as if plunked on in between nice a so various things like that plus the fact that the flowers are typical 19th century rather than 18th century yes you know one can get very technical about it basically the look and if you know these chaps faces here's a little charity 19th century father so those two pieces are as I say exemplary of their type and a very good example of what we're talking about yes now we have to think the values I suppose do you have them in short or do you have an idea of a little no I don't I have been just under general house insurance but I think the the cabinet in its own right would certainly should be insured for somewhere in the region of five and a half six thousand and the table although repainted because this type of fantasy is fashionable painted furniture Israel would probably be eight to ten thousand I'm absolutely staggered my goodness me what an interesting album we have here life and landscape on the Norfolk Broads by Emerson and good all the artists good oh this is quite a rare item indeed so rare that you see that one a year to a year come come to the surface yes indeed there should be about 40 plates in here there they're a collaboration of course this whole thing is a collaboration between the two good all being the artist and and photographer and Emerson being that great early experimenter and his his work is is much collected today tell me some of the history of they are having to come into TF put all it's my mother-in-law's he had a studio on a houseboat that's where he kept the book which is rising condition I think it's just been in the family ever since I have to say to you that additions similar to this but in good condition made at auction up to 15,000 pounds one has to temper that valuation however with with by taking into account its condition but it should be it should be worth in the region of around seven or eight thousand pounds like that have you ever given I mean it'd be done any finding out right now tell me what you found out I found out you're absolutely right it is well it's not fair to call it official this has been designed by a man called Maurice Sabino and Sabino was a glass maker in Paris during in June 1940 this particular figure is now becoming collectible because the lolly because it is con so through the roof nobody can afford it don't think so this figure today is probably worth in the region of and I wouldn't be simply surprises in that Dublin value within the next five years as far as we know it so it goes back three generations from your own family my wife my family that's splendid it's a 17th century tooled leather case and this wonderful portrait is on copper as you know that I'm sure and I did see I'm just going to check the date again that it is 1642 actually said they did did you know it had a date or the date is just here it has no signature but during the middle to late part of the 17th century one of the main Flemish painters of the time with Gonzales and I would say it's always definitely certainly either by him or after him and that would place it really around that time and it is Flemish but what is so wonderful about it I mean it in its in itself it is worth a lot of money I would say because it's a beautifully executed what is so fascinating is that in this box but later late 18th century and beautifully painted take a few of them out because you've got 50 in there together on mica and superbly painted are these one can only call it a portrait game so if I put that on there he is now a woman this is quite amazing actually surround changes and bold character of it and that is so well painted in its own right and that is definitely Flemish again so it does all go together and then we have man let me start I mean the colors are so good as well it's obviously being kept extremely well in this silk-lined case this could well be as it's late 18th century the four continents America what is that the danger touch of a Radian dude he said I got completely changes the face doesn't it that's wonderful oh now we have I think you didn't it isn't oh we have a a lady of the 18th century to gloss over that quickly ah we have another one this is Cupid and Psyche and that's perfectly all right that's ancient history so I didn't think that there's a risk and I had a traitor itself yes and quite honestly I have not seen anything like this and if this were to go into an auction I would put a very wide estimate on it it's got to be upwards of 5,000 to possibly 10,000 pounds do you know anything about sister um well I know that it comes from a swimming pool yes that's good well but I'm not absolutely 100% sure about it but that is what I was told okay good laughs it's in well I think that this is 16th century Italian yeah and it is a plaque exact do you know that it's in gold this is good it's actually good though as so divorce it alone no no it's old and what you think I'm by chance I was looking at I thought it was guilt in fact guilt silver they never but just here in the corner yeah small amount that's lifting it's a very thin skin of gold which has been retro sader chase to give this decoration it isn't the belly of an Atlanta you've got the hunters Atalanta here in the middle of the bow the boar and then it was the retrospective seen at the back where the head has been presented unfortunately there the head of the figure is lost and the black is set onto a backing of some kind of plaster or something but it's 16th century Italian it's gold and it is one of a group that I believe six more of them in the Museum in Berlin there are further examples in Vienna they are supposed to be a series of plans that were probably mounted on a what must have been spectacular cabinet oh not at all no Canada I think the company kind of cabinet yes and they're supposed to belong to the Borghese yeah Borghese family across country yes yes not only that but the they were originally attributing these plaques are planted then the little chilly knee but then now I thought I've sorted my vision no well now latest thinking is that they're actually bike we aim at the reporter and the scene itself is actually after teleporter Thank You Leila and he's named with worked in gold and he's known drew worked in Rome when the Borghese family worked and if you say it possibly came from then perhaps I'm gonna be right yeah yeah now it is quite extraordinarily rare it's actually mounted up on a plaque of lapis yes my father had done he had that actually fitted yet because well strangely enough I think that the others are also on lapis but if he obviously was something of a scholar of the subject he would have known that the other examples are on lapis these are cornelian panels they have they look reasonably good to me obviously it's been framed yeah this century and would originally as I say have been mounted possibly on them which could have been broken out but this must be confirmed by somebody who is a specialist in 16th century Italian heart so if it is what I'm saying it is 16th century Italian I would think that it must be worth somewhere between thirty and fifty thousand pounds searcher and fifty and yeah yeah [Music] well it doesn't much matter whether one singles out the porcelain or the furniture or the pictures it all adds up to a program of marvelous quality so our warm thanks to the people of Farnham and as for the final outcome on Simon's gold plaque where we'll just have to wait for a week or two with bated breath for that but we'll let you know just before we go a quick mention of the Antiques Roadshow collection which is available from most good paper shops and that's a record of many of the things many of the wonderful things that you'll see during the series of the program we're off now to Northern Ireland and I very much hope that you'll join us there at the same time next week until then from everyone here in sari goodbye
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Channel: UK VHS Archive
Views: 55,763
Rating: 4.7344398 out of 5
Keywords: Antiques Roadshow, Antiques Roadshow UK, Antiques Roadshow Series 14, Farnham, Surrey, Farnham Surrey, Hugh Scully, 16th Century Gold Plaque, BBC, BBC 1, BBC 1 1992, VHS, VHS 50fps, 50fps, Rare TV
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Length: 41min 59sec (2519 seconds)
Published: Thu Nov 08 2018
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