Alexa Nikolas on QUIET ON SET Fallout, T-Shirt Controversy & Dan Schneider | Just Trish Ep. 67

can you imagine if Dan Schneider did his own ukulele I mean kind of good right I could kind of see he probably should he probably should probably should I mean Colleen Ballinger also worked on a Dan Schneider [Music] show hey guys uh welcome back to the J Trish podcast uh today we just have a lot to cover it's very very popular very polarizing but just a sweetheart overall so far I mean we just met but today we have on Alexa Nicholas hello right I know some people say nickels and I'm like wait I've been saying nickels too why N I don't know I think because of the K throws people off cuz usually Nicholas is CH okay that's why I double checked I was like I always been calling you Alexa Nichols no it's okay don't worry everyone's been calling me that lately totally okay um yeah there's a lot a lot happening for like 20 years this is crazy I didn't even know how to do the introduction I'm like do we say former Child Star do we say Zoe 101 do we say activist you can say all of it I guess I'm all of it at this point I feel like I'm all of it I've really had quite the journey I feel like there's been different now phases of my life which I'm growing to like that more and more but it's been a lot of jumps through time okay yeah we need need to go through all those jumps I don't know cuz there's so there's so much and i' like for me this is all new I like didn't know this was like a thing quiet onet obviously brought all this out for me but you've been doing this for how many years you've been talking about it well I came forward specifically about Dan Schneider and Nickelodeon in 2019 and I was also kind of hinting at it in 2018 and then I did a live on my Instagram kind of in response to the Zoe 101 Reunion where I wasn't invited which was okay I'm kind of used to that yeah but I realized that Dan Schneider was there and then I was like oh I definitely wouldn't have gone anyways because Dan Schneider like I have not good experiences with Dan Schneider and so I decided to go live on my Instagram to kind of say a lot of what I experienced on the set and that was my first I don't even know what to call it I guess like not expose but just kind of telling the truth about what happened to me as a child star and then with e Predators though that happened you know in 20 22 so many years later oh wow so that's actually somewhat recent though 2019 is like pretty recent was The Reunion it wasn't like the reboot it was just like the cast coming together to talk about it I see it as like Dan Schneider trying to be part of a reboot and get his career back after obviously Nickelodeon booting him in what was it 2017 yeah so yeah after that happened so you weren't invited back but you weren't vocal about it at the time so why don't you think you were invited back I left the show because of the toxic work environment okay and so I was bullied for the entire um every season of Zoe 101 I was severely bullied and Dan Schneider was also one of my bullies I I go into I mean we can start at many different there's so much to cover so much there's so much but he ended up you know making me cry you know in a in a room with all of these Nickelodeon executives at Nick on Sunset and after that you know I was like I don't want to ever go back there and so we called Nickolodeon and my mom basically advocated for me saying you know after everything that's happened if you don't let my daughter go like you know we're going to sue you basically so they knew it ended poorly it ended poorly and I'll never forget they called my my my agents called my mom and we were eating pizza and she got off the phone and she turned to me and said they released you and it was such a sad moment for me because I did want to be on the show minus the toxic work environment yeah so it was sad and also kind of a relief at the same time and then she said they also said that you were banned from the Kids Choice Awards that is wild why is that because punish me I think they punish it was like punishment for advocating for myself and wanting to leave the network and I also think when it comes to these institutions like n Ian they don't want you to end up mingling with people that are still within the company because they don't want anyone to find out what actually happened so most of the time when it comes to survivors of anything they want to isolate them away from people that are so close to the predatory behavior so that people don't know what's actually happening and so I heard that they told people that I was fired most people thought I was fired from Zoe 101 where did you hear that from other nickel Stars so I would go to parties when I was a teenager and people would be like oh wow so you got fired from you know Nickelodeon I'd be like I didn't get fired from Nickelodeon like I left Nickelodeon because of yeah and they were telling different even different shows that weren't Dan Schneider shows Nickelodeon was saying that I got fired that is so wild what a weird cover up that's and at the time none of this was out about Dan Schneider right so you thought did you think you were like the only person that was dealing with this I definitely thought I was the only person like I really thought I was the only person cuz no one else um stood up for me during that time no one honestly said anything no one even said they had their own personal experiences with him right so I thought oh wow like I'm just this is what happened just to me okay so let's go back so what what age do you start acting in a little Leto you nerves no no you're actually the way you like talk about this is actually amazing how like strong you are talking about it cuz it's a lot like that's a lot and for being so young so you start Zoe 101 at what age I started Zoe 101 at 12 years old okay and you're already acting you're already like I was already acting I started acting when I was three MH and I was in Chicago Illinois and then I moved out to Los Angeles when I was 6 years old for pilot season it used to be called pilot season which was like all the shows that are just starting to come out um and so I moved out to Los Angeles and then I worked like consistently I did 75 commercials by the time I was 12 I was on a bunch of different TV shows and then Nickelodeon at that time was like the peak of a child's career because usually the auditions you're going out for as a child is like someone's kid or it's a little mini guest star you're not getting that much screen time and for someone who really likes acting for example you want as much as many lines as possible you know so Nickelodeon and Disney was the place for kid stars because they gave them the platform to have fun honestly and so when I auditioned for Zoe 101 I was like you know I was literally I was Christian at the time I was like I was raised super religious kind of um and I was literally on my knees like God please like this is a dream like I and I loved Britney Spears also and so I was like this is Jamie ly Spears show you knew you knew her yes okay I didn't know Jamie but I knew Britney right and my mom was like this is Britney Spear's little sister and like oh my God I was like this would be such dream come true wow so you were like so excited about it I was I was really excited about it okay so you like how fast does it turn you like you're on the first season first episode like you're in the first SE two seasons were you two seasons yeah so how quickly does it turn like right away she's just like I don't like you or how does this happen literally the first day wait what I'm not kidding so when I was younger I was kind of very much like my the character Nicole I was very bubbly and all I wanted was like friends mhm and so when I met Jamie at Nick on Sunset funny enough I this is like a strange note like I literally just started like my menstrual cycle and I was like in the most like I don't know like I was just feeling like oh this is going to be the beginning of my teen years and this is so exciting get to meet like a fellow teenagers cuz I was homeschooled oh and so I was like this is going to be so exciting like this is going to be like high school but I guess a set version of that fun happier yeah and I was so I was just like genuinely excited and I just remember like you know going up to her and just being like I'm so excited to be a part of this and she just uh did not want anything to honestly do with me it was just like a cold uh stoneface response right and I went oh and when you're a kid also you you always think it's you you know so you're not thinking like oh this person's mean you're just thinking oh maybe I said too much or like maybe I was too like you're trying to figure out what you did wrong yeah why they don't like you yes and so I just remember going oh maybe it's because she's Britney Spear's sister and I'm sure so many people you know want to be around her for that specific reason and I don't want her to think that like I'm actually just genuinely excited to just be a part of this yeah and you're a cooworker you're not even like a fan or anything you're like I'm just here and we're going to be best friends in the show like you want to be friends also you know off screen MH and so I didn't really understand it and I thought maybe was a mixture of her being a sister of Britney and then also you know her maybe being shy right and so I tried to like dial it back kind of it was more just me trying to figure out what she wanted from me and that was kind of the beginning and also just kind of the trajectory of my engagement with her was just constantly walking on eggshells basically essentially there was never like a time where it was kind of okay it was just constantly like she's just ignoring you or what is it yes and then she would ignore me and then it started to escalate into fullon bullying where there was a girl who was actually a character that did not like Nicole and her name was Dana MH and she was Zoe's you know we we were all roommates together and she was a lot older than us I think she was like three to four years older than me and she didn't necessarily like I guess my energy either they were like just like very cool you know and I maybe wasn't like that I was just like I want to be friends and I want to have sleepovers and that was not them and so then that's when they started getting very clicky where it was them having sleepovers and not inviting me and then they would talk about the sleepovers you know oh my God that's so weird it was very strange that's the most it's so odd especially on a show I mean obviously never been on one but it seems like all the other casts had like bonded at some point you know when you hear about it so it's kind of odd especially cuz you were one of like the cool girls on the show you were like their roommate their friend yes and I didn't feel like it though I it was like the complete opposite you know behind the scenes and it started with just I like not inviting me yeah and then kind of showing that off that they weren't inviting me and then it would be them like having lunch together in the trailer and not including me and so then I would be like you know with the rest of the cast which was fine but it was just so obvious that I was not welcomed or or liked and then they would then it got into like Jamie literally ask me why I smile all the time and asking me if I'm an alien oh what where did that come just like meanly just being like why are you smiling yeah why do you smile all the time like are you an alien and are you just like apologetic just like I'm so sorry uhhuh oh just like not and I'm like maybe I smile too much constantly crying like I would go to my mom in the trailer and just be like so upset like why do I smile so much you know and it was and it was also in plain sight like around all the cast members and then you know fast forward that was kind of it was getting you know worse and worse and then there was one point where we had an episode where we were at the beach and there was like this huge Boulder in Malibu and me and the Dana character had to be like behind the Rock and run out and I'll never forget it I like went to go in front of her to like go run and she pushed me into the Rock and I was just like crying and then I ran to my mom and you know that because at that point it got physical and I was scared I didn't want to be alone I was like I don't want to be alone with this person oh my gosh and so you know long story short they end up letting her go they end up removing her from the they saw it they noticed it oh yes it was every day like wow it was and they can't obviously remove Jamie right so they thought okay we can remove this person and maybe hopefully that gets Jamie to stop behaving like this yeah and I think they were also hoping that it was maybe her instigating it you know what I mean sure she's older and correct yeah but that wasn't the case so then they had to get a new roommate for the show and you know I'll never forget this uh they were testing all these girls to play the role of Lola on Zoe 101 and there was a network like basically you do testing right before you get the role and it's basically you going in front of all of like the main execs at the network and they make the final decision and you've already done your contract at that point you have lawyers involved and it's just like the final decision and I got a call from Nickelodeon saying you know we would like to have Alexa come and read the lines with these actresses because of my experience we want Alexa's input who she feels the most comfortable with so I'm like oh wow this is really nice of them and I'm like yes I'll go and the day of my mom gets a phone call from my uncle my uncle Michael and he calls her and goes there's a girl who is going to be testing and I dated her mom when I was in college and she just called me and let me know that she's going to be there and now when I look back and I'm like okay wait a minute it's like nepotism totally it's like wait what's going on here I'm like how often do you even talk to her I don't that's weird really weird like she literally called him to let him know to let me know so before showing up there I'm thinking oh one of these girlss like Mom dated my uncle you know so Longo so long ago and I'm like as a kid you know you don't even know what that means really you're like okay I'm going to like at least pay attention to this person um it's like a family friend you know weird strange family so far removed college and so I remember going to Nick on Sunset and there was all these different girls and I went to the executive room and I started reading you know the lines with each uh person who was auditioning for Lola and then Victoria Justin comes in and she was just so nice to me you know like out of all the girls that came in she like really took time to go like my uncle I mean your uncle and my mom and the whole thing and I'm like oh my God she's so sweet and and it made me feel so good to have somebody like pay attention to me when it came to the show and so I read the lines with her and I also thought she was great and when she left the room she was I think the last one and they all asked me like who did you feel the most comfortable with and I said Victoria Justice wow and they said okay and you know the next day I got a call that she was hired wow that's amazing so they like really valued you as like a cast member they did wow they did they did they they didn't never do anything about the bullying that happened on set but at the end they did let me know like this has gone too far and like we want your input corre we want you be a part of this that's amazing which then went into season 2 and then me and Victoria Justice were like best friends we like drove to set together her mom would um like put on Billy what's what's his name who has a daughter named Alexa um oh uh Billy Jo Joel right Billy Joel Billy Joel CDs and like we'd be in the van and like car pooling and I would go with Victoria like you know it's to set and we were best friends and it was like a dream actually the other co-stars were still Jamie never talked to me to me okay Jamie stayed completely isolated never spoke to me whatsoever but now I had this friend and so it made me feel okay and I felt like I was actually having fun for the first time but then towards the end just one day was right before the the cut off of the second season into the third season and I walked into the makeup trailer and Victoria Justice Jamie was sitting in the makeup chair and Victoria Justice was leaning over her and I walked in and and they all like turned at me and was laughing did you know what it was about not at all I I actually still have to this day I don't know what it was about and I went oh my God that's my best friend and now for some reason her and Jamie are having some type of connection but like it was really out of the blue for the most part I'm like where is this coming from so I went all the way to the other side of the trailer to get my hair done and they were just laughing over there together I couldn't believe it I was like wow it's you know it's happening honestly over again I have no idea why you know and you're like it's so weird yeah no IDE for no reason you guys are doing good in scenes together it looks like you're friends correct and you're like wow why can't we also all be friends like that's something I never understood was even with the girl who played Dana it's like why why is this all split into like Parts like why can't we all just be yeah friendly to one another I don't get it and your actors like act like you like each other true that you can act on screen being polite just be like cordial too like I didn't get that like that's weird so odd so odd and so it really started to escalate those last few weeks with them and then it became the same thing all over again where they started all having lunch even with Jamie just in the trailer and then I just had to go sit alone my trailer yeah was like deja happened Deja Vu wow it was pretty heartbreaking because I was like okay well that then you start to think like really what's wrong with you you know you're like this is so bizarre that what am I doing that's wrong even like am I just too nice do I not talk to people so then I tried to like silence myself and it was just a horrible environment and then you know close to the last episode we were in Malibu and it was like a whole uh Malibu mansion episode and we were like by the water and they just started to like physically bully me like there was you know uh water guns and they were just spraying me and laughing and it was all on set then it there was actually footage of this where you know Aaron Sanders who plays Quinn like literally hits me and they put it in the in the show you can see me get hit and you see me react oh yeah it's horrible is that what was the scene what was even the setup that would have G bet Justice and her are supposed to not they weren't supposed to but we're supposed to be celebrating like jumping up and down that we won okay and Aaron goes to hug Victoria and and they start jumping up and down you see Aaron go like that right to me on purpose wow and they put it in the edit you're like I didn't that's a wild that's like the craziest thing and it went actually went viral recently cuz I never even knew that that got put in oh my God and I'm watching it and I'm like there it is you know when you're older and you remember like your just ring experience and you're seeing it on SC they like that was it yeah and you're like oh wow and they put it nickel I mean Nan in a lot of mess up you know that's the least of them but you know you're like wow they put that in you know and at least it validated honestly a lot of my experience and it just kind of escalated escalated and then the last day was really the the peak of of everything and it was kind of it was all over in the sense where I felt so isolated no one was really talking to me per se and I was in the trailer a lot of the time and Ian who was a talent coordinator and his job is basically to take you to and from set or take you from the trailer to makeup and makeup back and he's like the legal um Guardian during like the time that he's you know he has like restrictions like he has to tell your parent exactly where he's taking you and then bring you back and so he would you know knock on the door and he knocked on the door and he said hey I'm going to bring Alexa to makeup and hair for touch-ups like touch-ups at like 13 years old it's hilarious but he's like touch-ups and you're like okay um and I remember I was walking with him and then at some point like between all these different trailers he turns to me and says Jamie and Britney want to talk to you in the trailer I'm going to take you there are you are you excited are you nervous I'd be like oh my God Britney yeah I would she's like an adult you're excited you're like okay yeah I was like wait I you know it was like kind of confusion because I went oh I was like oh may like half a second thought was like oh maybe Britney's going to like mediate like like finally step in and be like you guys should be cuz I thought of Britney as like and I met Britney so many times on set and I was like she was always so nice oh so you knew her I already knew her she visited all the she visited often okay and so I was like oh Britney's gonna like maybe save the day cuz she's like was like a hero of mine when I was younger yeah so I couldn't imagine her doing anything other than that and so I'm like oh Britney wants to step in like finally someone's stepping in too you know sure so I'm like this is awesome and so I went okay and he brings me to Jim's trailer and I'll never forget it he knocked and I and I open the door and like the door you know like opens this way and I remember like you know closing it and I realized that he was no longer there he just left you he just left me there and I see Jamie just run to the back of the trailer and I was like this is weird oh my God and I'm like oh maybe she's like Emar like maybe she doesn't want to have the convo you know you're not thinking like this is going to go bad B confrontation oh I'm just scared we're all young too like 13 that's what's crazy about this whole thing so young and so I step in and you know the the whole thing happens where the door gets locked and Britney just starts yelling at me and she was like nine months pregnant at the time oh my gosh and I just I I remember just like like stepping backwards and sitting cuz I couldn't even believe that Brit Spears was like hated me you know what is she saying what is she just right out the bat like yeah like why are you um bullying my sister and I'm going buling you it was the other way around and I'm I'm like oh my God and she's like rubbing her belly and yelling at me and then she was like you know I'm basically I'm not going to I'm going to make sure you don't work again she said she said it to you yes oh my gosh yeah she you're not going to work again like you're not going to treat my sister like this and I'm I'm going i' never even heard that before that was the first time I heard the reversal of the roles you know and what do you do it's her sister like she didn't believe her sister of and also it's Britney spe oh my God there's I am not going to talk back to Britney Spirit you and especially when I was that little I was just like looking at her and it was the biggest Devastation because I already was trying to figure out what it was about myself that these couple people did not like and then it was Britney Spears and at that time like the epitome of everything entertainment industry yeah and like literally I stood in line you know when I was 6 years old to buy her first album and you know you're just like wow and so I remember just I couldn't it was like tunnel vision I just remember getting up and like trying to find my way to the door and that's when I realized it was locked honestly cuz I it was the little red thing was locked and I like hitting the thing and I'm crying and I like open it and I just puke you know oh my gosh I just puked I was so I was that freaked out gosh no one's around the town coordinator is not around no one's there for me and like running through all of the trailers to get to my mom and I open the door and I go right to the bathroom and I'm literally like holding the toilet like you know throwing up yeah and my mom's now you have to know from a mom's perspective you're a mom like your kid comes running in like that you don't know what the you know happened they you you just got told they went to make up in hair what happened in between that time yeah what happened and so I I just remember you know crying my mom screaming you know just going what's like tell me what's wrong cuz she's probably thinking the worst things and yeah cuz she's aware of your bullying and stuff at this great so she doesn't know what happened yeah and she's her mind's going in a whole bunch of and I couldn't speak couldn't tell her I remember trying and I couldn't say anything oh my gosh and then my mom like opens the trailer I just remember and she's like screaming like coming you know my daughter my daughter and the the set teacher nowhere to be found and you know and So eventually of course Dan Shiner shows up okay so he hears your mom screaming he's the first to come he's like no these two executives are the first to come from Nickelodeon that were in town from New York and then Dan Schneider comes what's he say oh my God he literally walks in and I'll never forget this I've said this a million times but he walks in I'm on the floor in the bathroom and he just looks at me he has his glasses he puts them down at me and he goes what now oh my God oh my God so then I'm like jeez I mean as a kid you're just process it you're like well I'm the wor everyone is annoyed by me yeah and oh God no one's advocating for me really and so I just remember finally telling them you know like Britney Spear like Ian brought me into the trailer and Briny yelled at me that's all I can kind of like remember mustering up basically and he just looked at me and went and he stepped out and there was like we were all just like there going where is he going he comes back with a box that do you remember those like portable DVD players with the screen oh yeah okay he literally comes back and he goes here like you feel better oh like a gift he's kind like okay and I'm like looking at this DVD player like wait what that's has he ever done that before try to like bribe you to get out that's so odd no it was just like and it was the rap gift so everyone was already getting that I guess at the end of the day okay but he gave it to me early because I was so upset he just thought that's H does he have children no okay and so I was like just think that's how you calm someone down he's like here's a DVD right he has maybe also why he doesn't like prob good he doesn't yeah that's wild it was really weird go and I just remember going thank you and he goes you have to go back onset like I know what ha like this thing's happening but you have to go onset this is the last scene of the day oh and my mom went no she's not and then I stood up and I was like no it's okay like cuz I was so worried being the problem that I was like it's okay okay I can go and they were like well you have to go they they reminded me like you're you have to go wow so they touched me up for another 20 minutes because I was so you know crying for so long and throwing up and then I went on set to film the last scene which was the last scene I ever filmed on Zoe 101 and afterwards they said well me meet with you at Nick on Sunset in a few days and we'll have like a conversation about everything that happened you're like okay yeah at least that yeah I guess it's good it was like a final scene it's not like you to do the rest of the season or something God yeah it all happened so weird yeah the timing the timing of it it just happened to be the last day of the second season so maybe they're trying to push you out you think maybe that was like her trying to intimidate you like yes a little bit that's so that's as I like think about it more and more as I'm getting getting older the specifically the Victoria like Vibe when I look back at it was very much pushing me like pushing me out of there because I do think that sadly especially in the industry everyone's taught to compete with one another like everyone's competition instead of thinking about how there's enough space for everyone to do something right I did feel that a little bit towards the end and now looking back at it it was like wow it was very convenient that the last week of the second season you just turn on me yeah you get yelled at by pretty Spears Victoria Justice turns on you like that's odd and your mom dated my uncle like how how could you do this to me that call your mom right call your mom call your like that was so weird that you told me that before and then at the end this happened you know he it's very peculiar looking back at it you're how much of that was kind of intentional and how much was it maybe just not like I have no idea but it is weird timing wow so okay and then you talk about Dan Schneider also abusing you on set is this like verbally or physically okay never like pushing or anything no he never pushed me he was just very I never knew what version of Dan Schneider I was going to get on set and sometimes he was nice and then sometimes he was just mean like you know very Snappy very like not impressed by you like walk past you not say hello to you just like just not a nice person so you just always felt a little bit I did at least I always felt a little bit uncomfortable showing up on set whenever he came on set cuz he would always be like most of the time I noticed him not in a good mood and I noticed him I mean you know there's a few things that were very uncomfortable was I saw him do very inappropriate behavior on on set I saw him you know going around and trying to take photos of kids feet and as a child you were like this is weird I think it was we well he was walking around with dollar bills that's what I remember and he was telling the kids you know come I'll take photos of your feed and and and give you a dollar like it was like some funny like hoax like thing and I remember my mom going no she didn't tell why she's just like no she goes no I don't take the d don't I think she was also more concerned like don't take money from him like she thought it was weird like don't take a dollar bill from him and but he tried oh yeah with you oh he tried with all of all of us and what so see coming up he's like let me take a picture of feet I'll give you a dollar little digital camera mhm and some of them did yeah I guess it's a child you don't think anything of it don't you're like feet like funny like right not like funny but you're like I think that's what's scary about the feet thing is when you're a child you're taught what is private mhm and it's usually things that you have to put clothes on all the time right you're not taught that something that is exposed can be seen seen to someone like like a fetish thing is not you don't process that as a kid no one teaches you what that is it's just the basics like don't let anyone do X Y and Z basically right and so what's dangerous about him is that it was something that a child wouldn't necessarily pick up on you would have to be an adult to understand that yeah so it was like oh feet you know if he was going around asking for something else we'd all Go whoo and you're fired you know but that like makes it complicated and so I just remember my mom not letting me and then you know I just remember him being in trailers for my wardrobe fittings and watching me spin around and short skirts and him saying what skirts I was going to wear that episode and having to wear biker shorts underneath them because in case my butt shows he was he said that yeah well the the the Wardrobe like they he would pick the skirts they would go shopping cuz that's what wardrobe like does they go shopping and he would probably them like usually like oh this is the kind of vibe of the character she would go shopping and it would be all different kinds of things pants dresses um not all skirts but he would regularly pick the skirts and they were so short that I was required to wear biker shorts under but the biker shorts were too long so they had to cut them oh my gosh were you like did you do the fingertip rule where it was like yes that's exact that's literally it was like that and you were like oh there's this much that they would cut them but then they wouldn't seam them so they would just roll all day so I was always like all I remember on set a lot of the time was going like this to pull down these biker shorts now you look back and you're like that is inappro why am I having to wear what and also at least seam these things yeah right so stays down yeah so I'm not having to sit there uncomfortably like it's humiliating almost to as a kid you're just and uncomfortable and just like how are you acting on top of that are you the are you the one wearing the cuz your character was somewhat you like you said it was like for the guys the guys the male gays so are you the one wearing the shortest skirts and the tightest shirts definitely and like the lines like the chesty one that was in the quiet onset like did you know at the time or did your mom were you like this is kind of weird or I'm uncomfortable or you just don't think about it cuz you're acting didn't even think about it because I also think that's what's really dangerous about being a a child star is that you're taught that there is a big difference between between pretend and reality and when you're on set this is pretend and then when it says cut it's reality and so no matter what you're doing in the pretend land doesn't really feel alarming because let's be honest like during that time of being on Zoe 101 I was also auditioning for girls that were uh survivors like I was auditioning you know to catch a predator and CSI May you know these these roles sadly the industry especially those like CSI uh all of those CSI shows a lot of those roles were pretty intense situations they would put the kids in you know like the mom's either um you know an addict or you know and so you're in already this pretend world that's wild that's dark yeah I even remember when I was 14 I I was going out for you know um like sex workers you know like in movies I felt like that wasn't allowed remember after jod Foster a tax driver I thought you had to be like to zip up pants and stuff like that or it's just no you I mean maybe to zip up the pants but you can still play like a h or something and you want to shne for those rolls that's yes I had to dress like that I would have to be like you know it would tell me like what she looked like and you would dressed like that for the audition so I I have I have photos of me still to stay like with a you know my belly button showing and like a short skirt and a bell and going for um a sex worker role I mean they have that's wild cuz they have people who are 18 to look younger right like it's like when Ona Ryder was 18 when she did the sex scenes with Dennis qu for Jerry le le it's like she played a 13-year-old but she was 18 like it's weird they don't have that law like how can you play a sex worker at 14 as long as you're not doing a a sex scene so if you're just playing her and she's like let's say the detective comes you know in the scene like you know he shows up and he's like investiga you know um interrogating you but you're in sexual situations are you saying sexual lines yeah they'll probably like reference it and then you're talking about someone who stole your money or something you know like it really depends what the but it's still on the ver you're it's so extreme regardless that you know you're so taught that there's this pretend land that set life and when they say action you're there and then when they say cut you're out of there and so for me I when I look back at the chesty line I didn't even process any of it because it was pretend land and you just don't even think anything is weird in 10 land almost it's so hard to describe which why it's dangerous right and you're going through puberty so are you just like totally comfortable with wearing tight shirts at 13 I wasn't so I was like when I look back at that whole time I'm like I wasn't like that until right at the end of season two cuz now I think like how much did Nicole influence me like I'm fine now wearing this and flirting with the guys totally and I was always put in flirting with the guys and then the guys were always you know flirting with me and so I really grew up into like teenage years through the through Nicole honestly yeah and so there was kind of like a blurred you know blurred line there of like who was Nicole sometimes and who was me so when I look back at that I didn't really notice it and you think oh comedy and no one was just no one was thinking about predatory behavior on sets yet mhm it was stranger danger era it was always some random person you don't know and no one was teaching anyone on set which is why it pisses me off that they all knew about Brian peek and no one was coaching anyone on set to know hey we've already seen this happen here multiple times by the way right like let's make sure the kids know who to be wary of that it could even be an ad that it could even they didn't do any anything like that what year is this like season 1 season two 2004 is this and then Drake Bell had his lawsuit in what year was it after was right around the same year I oh interesting I'm trying to think like I think it was that's why I was thinking too like early 2000 trying to think if it's like out there now that Nickelodean kind of sus they knew it was definitely past the time of him coming forward to the police that's for sure and um Jason handy already happened at that point that was no one talks about him like we I watched the full thing and I was just like that's wild how come no one's talking about him like kissing these girls and stuff like that it's like so weird Jason handy is just I mean I mean he called himself like a straight up you know PDF file in his own journal yes you know and you're like okay and now he's in you know he's in prison um he's for until 2040 I think he's in prison so he's in prison but Brian pe's not for yeah well that's CU Brian pack is well connected that's to me when I heard what happened with I was like how is he only for 16 months Jason h's not connected and Brian peek is connected that's the difference in Hollywood like that's that's the ISS issue is if you're not connected you know you're screwed you know you can you know but then if you are connected you have a lot of protection people will rehire you you know Brian PEX was was best friends or probably still is with h Brian Singer wow is he still D he's done I don't think he's directing anymore yeah I feel like there's certain ones that are it's pretty obvious like that's over yeah it's like you're not yeah no you're but you know when you look at what his connections were you kind there was not even one article that was published when he was like arrested so scary that's like terrifying terrifying you're like huge dialogue coach of Leonard DiCaprio right and not one article that he's been arrested or no even reporting that Nickelodeon has had multiple Predators on sets being arrested until now yeah now it's out there which is wild okay we're going to jump to that but just to finish off the Zoe 101 so you have the meeting Dan yeah the abuse and then you had the meeting is he at the meeting he's at the yeah he's at the meeting I remember going there with my agent and my lawyer we spoke to her on the phone before going and she's like I don't need to be there like everything will be fine my agent did show up for my knowledge and it was my mom my agent and me all in a room and it was like four different execs and Dan Schneider and like this huge conference table and like these black chairs and you know and I'm just looking at the adults and my mom's to the right of me and then my agent and they're basically you know telling me how lucky I am to be on the show and that I'm not grateful enough and that I have to suck it up and I shouldn't be too sensitive and I'm like a kid and so I'm feeling under pressure and so I'm crying and just the fact that you were in the room is like crazy with all the adults yeah like it should have I don't know how that would work but probably should have been related a different way but yeah very intimidating super intimidating and then at one point they basically go um let's talk to Alexa alone oh because I think that this is too overwhelming for her and let's just have like a oneon-one you know one-on-one like conversation with her where she doesn't feel overwhelmed by a bunch of adults in the room and we can just tell her like what happened and we can ask her questions basically and so you know I remember my mom and I stepping outside and I remember us all calling the lawyer and the lawyers said to us like you know what what's the big deal like you've let your daughter in auditions 101 like you've already she's already been in rooms with them oh no yeah and so the rationale is you're being paranoid to think that it's weird to go into a room you know you're like these are people you've been working with for two years and you know yeah this is not the best scenario but really what could happen you know and so I remember my agent going I'm going to leave like she's totally fine just let her tell them what happened happened you know and I just thought okay and I've also been in rooms with them like I've been in audition rooms so you're not thinking what was going to happen so when I got in though I was sitting there across from everyone and Dan just like lost it my go so wait it's you by yourself your mom did not come in with right outside the door I mean even as an adult you just want someone to validate like what's happening in the room okay so it's you you're sitting across who and they're like right over here and women yeah there's women execs women execs male exec and Dan like right in the middle how many you think five probably in total so one child and five adults oh my God and I thought like oh they were already saying I should be grateful but it was very calmish in the room no one was yelling and then once I was alone he just like went full um and was like this is not uh Nicole 101 you know this is Zoe 101 and like you're not grateful and all you do is complain and like you're so sensitive and it was just like oh my God I couldn't believe what I was hearing and to be honest with you it was about probably only a few minutes that I was able to last in there yeah and I just got up oh and I ran out the room and I said I'm never going back near them ever again and my mom said okay I remember she held me and she went okay and we left Nick on Sunset and called my agent and she said we're done here wow and it was just sad because I did want to do what I was do you know I want I did enjoy I enjoyed being creative and being an Entertainer I actually did enjoy that but it was everyone around that made it toxic work environment that's like the dream job yeah you're like a lead on a show in Malibu and yeah in Pepper University yeah it was oh my God that's devastating it was and then I was banned from the Kids Choice Awards and so they're like we'll let you go did they not want to let you go when you said you were going to put they did not want to let me go that's so interesting why do you think they just I guess well Nicole was popular um also there was a neelon like not a neelen but they used to do those um what do they call when they put kids in a room and they basically ask them like who's their favorite character and who's their oh God I always forget and they pay you to do it I'm bling I want I forgot too oh totally so they can kind of get like a read of what works and what doesn't toally and I remember one of the execs coming on set and and saying that Nicole surpassed like favorite character wow but they said that in front of the kids so then all the kids heard that I was the favorite character which not that's why you don't do that cuz that makes like why would you even say who car that's for you guys to figure out and to know like who you're writing in like it's none of our business like that doesn't even matter anyways to us it matters to you so like why are you telling the kids that but I remember that day that he he told us that and was talking about like oh yeah Nicole's a favorite character in all the testing and so you're like okay well but that's not a good idea to tell the children that maybe tell Dan that sure cuz he knows who he's writing in the most or whatever yeah but not for us to know and so I think that also just kind of made everything even more that's why kids shouldn't be in these scenarios yeah for sure cuz these These are they're too comp even adults can't handle them oh no yeah already adults hear that stuff and they're hurt y you know like that's you're human so to imagine a kid in that scenario can't you know can't process any of that so yeah so that was honestly my my like exit departure from from Zoe 101 and then I was banned like I just wasn't even able to go anywhere near anything that was Nickelodeon so why did you agree to that like because that's the only way they going to let you out like what if you're like but I I'm an actress I want to go to these things they ban you like you're not allowed what does that mean like list so you're like blacklisted from Nickelodeon kid oh no yeah and they do that to adults like I talk about that all the time that was my first experience of it though and that's why people don't want to go up against their boss or these institutions or these networks for example is because they punish you when you do mhm they don't just like let you go they want to make sure that you know like there's consequences for you doing something like that and are you so then do you continue to act I did on other shows and stuff okay so it's not like Blacklist from Hollywood just Nickelodeon I was not but like yeah Disney was super stoked to like pull me this is so wild wait he Disney I went to Disney but this is I would audition for Disney shows and Disney did hire me and this is wild so my first Disney role that I got after Nickelodeon was sweet love Zach and Cody oh and it was like two weeks after I left Zoe 101 so Disney could not wait you know like like I'm G to PL your yeah you're like okay whatever they're using their fandom or whatever and and plucked me I show up on and it was this one was like a live audience like set Vibe which is very different than Zoe 101 and I'm sitting there and I I see someone like in the back and I'm like who the f it was Ian Ian the guy who brought me into that trailer got fired from Zoe 101 and Disney hired him and just happened to be on the show that I that's wild think about Brian peek getting hired in I wonder if that's what I'm saying is at the same time it was around the same time I'm sure wow okay so you did you talk to Ian I ran to my mom no and then they ran she ran to them and said like he cannot be the talent coordinator because he just got let go and Nickelodeon for this and my daughter was put into a very like horrible situation by this guy didn't even tell me so they wouldn't let him I don't know if he ever returned after my episode but he wasn't allowed on set during during well that's good one for Disney I guess than one for Disney yeah they were like uh we're not going to mess with that W oh my gosh so you're just doing a guest episode onet yeah it was just a guest episode you're working at Disney and movies and yeah and I did like walking dead and Mad Men and I just kind of I went more into drama after Zoe 101 I was kind of like I I mean auditioned for comedy of course but I went more in the drama interesting okay more in the drama Direction I guess so you're fine acting and when's your last acting job you've done since then did you retire quit sadly I was you know well there's certain things you can say on YouTube but I was I was you know groomed like when I was um 16 years old by a man that was you know 17 years older than me from the internet and it spiraled into him literally grooming me until I was 18 years old and then having me go meet him in person in Berlin and all under the uh pretense of it being soulmates you know like a typical I mean we all heard what drg was kind of saying about M very similar and I went and met him for the first time in Berlin when I was 18 cuz when you're 18 you get your trust fun money okay and is this like the kouan account thing okay and you can't touch it until you're 18 okay and you had money in there cuz I know honey boo boo Mom stole the money and St my mom did not so I had I didn't have a lot of it but I had like enough definitely oh my God I'm very lucky so I know it was exciting for me cuz I when I was 16 actually my mom ended up losing the house cuz when you're not working enough you know so I lost my mom in the sense where she had to go to Florida and move in with my my grandma and I stayed behind and to continue acting and I was just kind of couch surfing honestly as like a minor which you know can't even imagine with that with that's like was a horrible journey and so also very vulnerable to people like you know Michael Milos who was the person who groomed me when I was 16 oh my gosh and so anyways fast forward I get this money and you think you're like you what are you going to do with this money you got and you know he was like come to Berlin and I was like okay I'm already going to go meet my dad for the first time cuz I never met my dad my dad left my mom when she was 6 months pregnant oh and wow I found him on the internet and I reached out to him when I was I always said when I'm 18 I'm going to reach out to my Dad wow and so I reached out to him and he was in South Africa so I was like okay wait a New Zealander what is he doing he well he's a New Zealander he's actually born and raised in New Zealand and so he was in South Africa working okay and so he was like if you basically want to see me like thanks Dad like I had to pay for my own ticket um yeah oh yeah horrible but you know whatever so he was like if you want to come visit me like this is where I'm at and I would love to meet you and I was just so excited to even have the finally the chance to go meet him and so I said okay I'll stop in Berlin on my way to meet my dad for the first time so I meet the person that like basically totally ruins my life like on the way to meet my dad who like abandoned my mom when she it's like all very strangely interconnecting yes and so I went to Berlin and then you know that was the first time that it was just a very horrible story I was like you know essayed um like the whole the whole thing and ended up leaving Berlin going to meet my dad and then coming back to Los Angeles and then he was like I'm going to I'm going to come visit you um not my dad but this but this uh um and he's like I'm going to come and visit you in Los Angeles and I'm going to come see you and you know I I love you and all this and I didn't even realize like now that he already had like all these things set up so he had like studio time set up he was meeting with all these record labeles like he was just use like using my everything that I had to live rentree while he was doing this album to have me drive him to the studio to and from and he was Canadian so he didn't have a green card and so he was like you know grooming me the whole time to also give him a green card oh my God so but I didn't know any of that I'm just thinking oh this like a musician that's you're like in love though and he and he was grooming me at 16 sure so you're like so many years in you don't have a dad so you're like okay this is someone that's like protecting me correct right and I'm like oh this person really loves me and also like you know when you're a child star it's already grooming you into uh people pleasing and not knowing what your boundaries are and not knowing how to advocate for yourself and so you're more vulnerable to predatory behavior which is why I really am against child stars in general because they're really you're not told how to advocate for yourself and so when you meet a predator along the way you know you're not looking for those same red flags maybe necessarily because you're thinking oh like if someone says they they like me it's my job to be also nice to them back right and it's this whole power Dynamic thing you know and they're an adult and there the whole thing and so I really believed that it was real but it wasn't and fast forward he you know within like one year of him using me to say it my apartment and drive him to and from and he was broke like he had nothing wrong with that but like he I wasn't yeah the 18-year-old is taking care of the 40-year-old yeah yeah and it's like oh he never even picked never even bought like the spinach at Whole Foods you know and so I'm like paying for everything driving him to and from and fast forward he just pops the question when I was 19 wow and he's 17 years older than me yeah and I'm thinking this is love you know and he's like we're going to travel the world together and I'm going to take you here and here and we're going to live a beautiful life and and uh and I'm like okay and he's like we're going to get married in 2 weeks like let's just do it now and I'm like and I knew it wasn't like I was like I knew in the sense where I was like oh wow this is fast and his reasoning for that was that I have I have to leave every 3 months right so if we want to be together let's just go get married and we can be together so we did that and he got a green card and I found out later on that his record label wouldn't sign him if um he didn't get a green card and they wouldn't pay for his artist Visa so he just used me for wow so you guys were married we were married a long time to get a GRE card years well yeah so he got his Visa at least at first was able to tour and then he got his Perman six years six years tried to escape multiple times but you did but then so basically what happened was for your question of when was my last episode like what last um show that I ever worked on wasn't 2012 which was the year I got married and so once I got married he took me away from my career and and and told me like you know he told me basically I needed to travel the world and that because I was a child star I never got to see the world and so I went and traveled the world and ended up like just honestly losing my career while traveling and he was just using me the whole time it's so bizarre he wouldn't want you to continue acting right like so he could be connected in that world he only wanted me to be dependent on him so but he was dependent on you was he making money at any point he got a million dooll record deal so he got a million dollar record deal um 6 months after I got married to him so they wouldn't give him the million-dollar record deal unless he married me okay I guess in a weird way you're kind of benef like he's supporting you now and you're not supporting him yeah but it left me Des so then what ended up happening at the end is that every time I tried to leave he I didn't have a career now and so every time I tried to leave he would email people and say that he was going to put me on the streets and that he wasn't going to give me alimony oh and that he wasn't so he put me in a very it was all very premeditated and also he's like just a predator in the in the typical sense where it's all about power and control for him and so now that he was the person in that position and your money's gone from Gone yeah gone oh gosh and so that was like six years of just hell like it oh it was yeah it was like it was really really bad like wrote a whole and that's how I learned I mean that's what ended up leading me to e Predators was because I ended up learning how these institutions cover up um essay because I went with him to all of the record labels meetings so he would bring me to Universal and bring me to all these different record labels and tell them about how he met me on MySpace when I was 16 and they would all these huge execs like Tom Wall-E and all these people would go wow it's so romantic like you guys are such a romantic couple like oh my God so Twisted but on your head too I mean cuz I was in similar situations when I was like 16 and it's like you think it's so romantic cuz you think it's like wow and then there's like this dream you guys got married and he's a rock star and it's like yeah and you think it's like cool like movie show that too this like amazing and no one teaches like you know I didn't really know like that I didn't know what a predator honestly really was like I knew like little bits of it but he didn't look scary you know like it wasn't the same he was like creepy old and talented and this and that just like I didn't know that that was what that could be and so it it really me it really messed up my life but also it did teach me a lot about from Nickelodeon and then the music industry realm you know when I tried to escape him he wouldn't let me get a lawyer was giving me like dea th like threats text messages it was horrible for so many years and it wouldn't let me get a lawyer and I thought that was like so weird so I I I escaped him in 2016 didn't end up getting um like finally finalized the divorce until 2019 because he wouldn't let me get a lawyer and that's when his management redl was just who's owned by Ticket Master in Live Nation came into the picture and all of a sudden was controlling all the finances and giving me money monthly and telling me you know basically telling me like you need to sign these simple divorce papers and so they would send me these emails over and over simple divorce I was like I need a lawyer yeah to look over these papers and he would not let me he would take money away fast forward I was exhausted by 2019 and I wanted out of here and so um he ended up saying what about a mediator a mediator okay what is a mediator you know I'm like Googl what a mediator is I'm like okay like Legally Blonde style like what is a mediator and I'm like oh it's a non-biased party who's going to like be in there and okay this feels a little bit safer than just like signing a contract when red light's coming to my front door so red light does the introduction though oh to the mediator yeah they have the connection the they have the connection but they're the One hiring I'm not thinking anything of it they send the introduction I go and meet up with the mediator very simple you're going to go with your jewelry and car and money and he's going to go with his just not going to get anything like okay I'm not fighting this also anymore I'm scared I don't want to be anywhere near him I want out basically they give you a little piece of paper what your Agreements are gets emailed to you I'm like okay 6 months later I get an email about a stipulated judgment and I'm like what the heck is this so then I email her back and I'm like what is this and she goes oh you know the stipulated judgment is just what we all agreed upon but it's just more like legal language of just like your taxes and this and that and I'm like okay it's like 30 pages I look at it I don't see really anything at all it's all just like here there like here after I'm like whatever you know I'm like what could possibly be in there and so I'm like okay and I sign it and I you see the whole email exchange with me with her and then I noticed that the stipulated judgment draft red light is like accidentally cced in there oh no oh no and I don't think anything of it I'm like oh they accidentally or or maybe they just accidentally got her in there and so I'm going oh that's so weird that red light's in there fast forward when I sue him in the future yeah for what he did to me I get a call from my my lawyer in in in January and they're like are you sitting down like you definitely need to sit down and I'm like what could possibly have gone wrong and they go do you remember a stipulated judgment like a the the typical divorce papers you get and I said yeah I remember the the divorce papers and they go oh well in there he he had you release your um child essay oh my gosh oh my gosh without telling me without anything and I was like how is that even possible to put a crime in a divorce agreement you know you're I I just was I couldn't even believe what I was hearing because it was a simple divorce that's all I kept hearing it's just a simple divorce you're like just separating and they tricked me into releasing child essay in a divorce agreement and so what does that mean he could have hit me every single day for the entire marriage and he even put battery in there oh my gosh I mean how is that like legal it's not technically legal did you it's not technically legal but it put strain on it put strain on my lawyers in the sense where they never even have been in that situation before that's so that was like what really opened my eyes up to record labels and institutions actively covering up because I saw it with my own eyes yeah they were the ones trying to deliver those papers to my door like weekly calling them simple divorce papers because they didn't want me to have they wanted those things to be released so they could protect their artist and keep touring him on the backs of me right having that even in there just shows guilt right like that just shows a criminal yeah that's not normal in divorce agreement so then I started calling after that happened then I would call all these people that got divorced you know and I'd be like do you have this and you're and they went no and I'm like I couldn't find one person that had that language yeah so that was the lowest of lows um in the all the industries like I that that really CU then you can't even get just they they were like you know didn't happen yeah yeah so you know it was just like wow you can't even win so when I found that out I just ended up deciding like I'm going to go um out in the streets and start protesting I don't even know like where that happened I don't even know how that God ended up coming out but I was like oh if I can't get Justice then I'm going to go and um go protest for other people is there you Sor no no take your time so that I just did that I went and protested Diplo I went and protested Diplo um because he was actually also best friends with my abuser and when I saw the Diplo was playing an all ages show uh in the middle of the street you're like oh this is what the music industry is doing he has a criminal investigation and they're is putting him in an all ages show in the middle of Melrose Los Angeles in an ice cream truck Diplo was in the middle of a criminal investigation oh gosh and they're just that's the music industry they don't care about anyone you know and so I was like okay what am I I was like I'm going to go protest and and NP Diplo was just doing the show and it was for Eat the Rich and I was like I started texting some of my friends and went do you want to go protest the show cuz he'll see us cuz it was like out in the literally in the middle of Melrose and I wanted to go stand up for someone else so I organized that it was like only four people ended up going and I was trying to think of my protest sign and I've never made a protest sign before I was like Eat the Rich and so I was like eat Predators oh so that that's where it started from that's where it started from and I just you out on the street of maros by yourself with three friends with my husband and two other people and so you oh so you had a new guy at this point I did I got end up I this I already had my daughter at this point oh I didn't sue I didn't get to sue him until the um child essay um so I was past the statute and then in 2018 the statute opened up for a very short window and I was able to sue him but then I wasn't able to because they they blocked it cuz when you're in the um plaintiff when you're doing like pro bono uh lawyers they they once they realize something's like more work they're you're they're not you're not in the position to be like I'll pay you keep working you know they're like oh this is now becoming a little too much and if this person's not willing to settle by now like that's all these lyers honestly care about it settlements so you know when they weren't seeing that happen the first couple months and then they found that in the stipulated judgment you know that's when they were like we don't know if we can fight this much longer and so you got nothing from that you got no compensation or anything no but oh gosh yeah it was it was horrible it was and I can you know now the adult window opened up and so it's like all these different windows are now like I could go back there but it was like it was so devast like it was so upsetting to realize that that was po that someone that the system was even designed that people could do that that I was like I'm now just gonna rage like in a very different way like I was like I don't even care about the court like I want people to know what is what is possible what people are doing in this industry and how it can how devastating it actually is and because no one was really advocating for me I was like well I'm going to start advocating for other survivors because that's what I wasn't seeing and so I wanted to do that I wanted to do that and that's what I ended up doing and that's yeah that was the birth of that wow so since 2019 basically it was 2021 so I got divorced in 2019 so took me six it was 2016 I escaped him 2019 divorce was finalized then 2021 I sue him and then 2022 I start eat Predators oh W this is like really new very new you were talking live on Nickelodean or about Nickelodeon in 2019 correct so it's kind of Crossing pth so everyone so maybe some people know you from the Nickelodeon some people know you from the music protests yes I mean it's just a lot happening to you so they're just like I know and then like last year I think it was the Jonah Hill thing it's just like your life I mean it's just like trauma after trauma after trauma which is like a case for every like so many child stars yes a lot of them like don't even get to live past certain ages because they just like Dana PL like all those people just you never hear their stories but yes and because these networks don't even like pay any of us like Nickelodeon didn't we don't make any money off of Nickelodeon not even one cent like no residuals no they just make billions of dollars and don't pay us any residuals okay this is yeah and people get I saw like you got backlashed for having the merch out and it's like you're just trying to make money somehow off something that robbed you yeah well it's like also it's a protest sign like I've been making those t-shirts of the protest signs for the last like year and when they're like oh it doesn't go to any survivors I'm like you're the Survivor like it goes to you as if I'm somebody outside of the dock yeah I'm in the dock no that's what's so bizar of me I'm like okay but this is this is all you're talking about and all those child stars they all get like screwed over and stuff for this same reason of just yes and so what are they supposed to do like you have to like make money somehow you have to make yeah that's when I started well when I started the show cuz I was like okay I'm not going to be able to protest much longer um without without a job and so I was like how am I going to keep protesting advocating if I have no job like I mean you know if I have no money no income so I was like okay well I make a patreon you know I like a patreon's a great way because then it's all Community built and that that's exciting to me personally is when everyone can like get together and be like let's go do this like let's actually especially protesting it is so exhausting it's like just organizing it alone is insane yeah I can't even imagine organizing it and then I make all those protest signs with my husband it's like a full-time you know with two kids like we're up till 4 in the morning like making 30 protest signs it's just you two it's just us to and so patreon is it patreon.com / Predators it is yeah okay so people can go there just well because people I think especially after quiet on set they're like cuz you feel so helpless and you're like gosh these people like don't and they all say the same thing they kind of were like left hung out to drive by Nickelodeon and so it's now as adults it's like okay you have trauma you have all this stuff and it's like what can you do about it to not only get get it out there like you said you can't do all this work without the money behind it you know you can't just can't do anything I mean honestly it's hard to just go to the grocery store know like like it is you know and so you're like okay how how how is this actually going to be sustainable where I can fully dedicate my time to this I've dedicated like literally my life to it I forget how young you are cuz you are doing so much you've done so much and Zoe 101 I was too old to watch I was like wait no you're like really young but you do so much and you speak so well so about everything thank you thank you wow but now with quiet on set coming out and being so mainstream do you find more people coming to you because it really is this is my first time hearing about your stories are more people now coming to you wanting to work with you and wanting to be a part of it like the movement yes the movement now people are like I feel like now people are watching the show and listening to what I have to say which has been like very rewarding because sometimes I'm like is anybody listening what I'm trying to say but now people are listening to me and supporting and there are new patreon members and now there's more viewers on the show which has been but I would say you know obviously mainstream Hollywood like still wants nothing to do I think so but this is pretty mainstream I mean quite un that's the biggest thing right now I haven't heard from anybody within Hollywood okay but I I have heard you know obviously like there's people I've been connecting with you know like you but when it comes to mainstream mainstream like no no no they kind of stay I think other people maybe but I outside of quiet onset like I go in with a megaphone outside their offices and they get really annoying by yeah like this is intense yeah they're like wait a minute okay everyone but maybe her you know like I we support her maybe over here but like I'm a little bit I I'm I'm a whistleblower you know I'm very polarizing people online definitely love and hate what you're doing which is like so bizarre because everyone is always with the victim right and then with you it's like it it does have that sort of push and pull where some people are really upset with you but it's like like why like recently what happened with those that t-shirt thing for example I like look these are all retweet accounts these are bot bounties so people can do I did a whole episode about this so basically there's these um uh not what's app but whatever that other app is where you can like have group chats I forget what it's called with a tegram telegram thank you yeah you know okay telegram yeah there's these nft bounties that you can do and you basically give people cryptos to go and attack an account oh and so you can usually tell when someone's doing that by just going and looking at what accounts are are saying it and there'll usually be retweet accounts where they only have like 15 followers and they're just retweeting things like they're paid n they're paid crypto to to boost like nft things and so I did this whole uncovering of that like months ago because John vakaro who's Dan Schneider's best friend does like that to me in my opinion like I've I've I've followed the trail to John varar and ever since I protested Nickelodeon that is when I started to see these retweet accounts coming out of nowhere and Dan Schneider's best friend you know follows the person who I have a restraining order against and he's no no one knows who he is never told the world who he was and Dan Schneider's best friend follows this random person who I have a restraining order against oh so he's doing this hate attack on you cuz I thought it was interesting I was like God there's lot yeah I was like everyone is always with the victims especially no matter what yes and you're not doing anything that's not truthful so it's like this is an odd attack on just yeah just me no one like there's so much happening on quite onset and I'm like why is no one else yeah I looked like what is this and then you're like At first like what the hell is this and then you look at them and you're like John like I just knew like you know yesterday I was like okay this is I know what this is and that's that that's what also you have to go through when you're when you're doing these things yeah they people that have like random money to throw down can literally hire accounts to just trash you Dam you yeah and then you know for example people are actually in my DMs my email box so kind and loving and supporting and all of the people who were part of quiet onet are getting the t-shirt and they knew about the t-shirt before it launched and then these random people are going to tell it's so try and make it seem like something's weird cuz I like usually I like can like see why people get hate I'm like this is very odd that you'd be getting it especially after being like a like like a leader in this and getting quite onet made because I'm sure like you and Janette MCC talking about this is why they made it right like you guys have talked about it for so long cuz why else would they all of a sudden come out with this yeah and Kate Taylor who like helps Source a lot of the interviews is is a main reason I mean for example like I was the first person to sign on to the dock and I also was the first person to they like asked me to basically record why this documentary was was important when they were pitching it around oh so you're you're the only one attached while they're pitching it there I think there was one I think well no Kate Taylor who did all the sourcing so she was the one who did the Business Insider Expos Dan Schneider that the year yeah she's in it she's a blond I was like is she a child St but she's just like one of the reporters she was young and she's awesome I mean she did such an incredible job she got those two uh female writers to come forward and that was all her sourcing and Reporting and so she was attached to it but Drake wasn't no Drake wasn't I didn't even know Drake was in it oh when did you find out like when it was coming out a little bit before yeah like I yeah before everyone else a little bit did you know his story no wow crazy so okay wait but are you okay you guys are Court you guys know each other we yeah well he was on Zoe 101 for one episode and I had to like go and like jump on to him and give him a kiss or whatever yeah it's was he on the show and he was definitely over 18 I'm pretty sure he was 18 but it wasn't um it wasn't lips it was on his cheek but it and he was supposed to be disgusted but it was still one of those situations where Dan's making me jump on a man yes and I'm like yeah and you're like wow oh my God and at 14 I mean it's so different like you said you probably became the character a little bit but it's like that's so uncomfortable anyways to be close to a boy and crazy especially Dr but I remember that episode with the t-shirts right you guys had the merch and I watch I was like a little old to be watching it but I remember I was like o this is like kind of it's cute think you know that epode I remember I was like and then it's like oh yeah that one was kind of cute actually but yeah that's okay so you knew him I knew him but you know barely you never talk cuz he it's interesting cuz I know it seems like the boys don't have any issue with Dan Shiner he said it on Qui on set where he's like Dan Shiner and I didn't have any issues so it's kind of interesting when people oh but he believes like he he does believe that Dan Schneider should be you know apologizing to us and he never has he has still not apologized to us Bry Spear's apologizes to you but not Dan Schneider in my DMs wow she messaged me privately before she didn't even publicly wow so she was like thinking about it yeah I literally said Britney Spears I got an alert and it was right Instagram yes wow and I thought it was like a fan account you know when you like see was like okay it's you know a fan account and I was like no no this is actually Briny Spears what year is this this was 2022 oh my gosh so she's going through her own and she's like let me apologize to her yeah and was the most it was paragraphs of just so kind to me and supporting everything that I've been doing wow and told me that my my my baby was beautiful and gave me like no this was an actual apology and it love her like I love her and I love her even more now the fact that she just like dm'd you to apologize dm'd me wow and then she put and then she put a whole letter about me publicly yeah and then she put me in the book I mean like who does that that's that's like actual like you're just real wow like nice person I love that love that's the only apology I've ever gotten you think Dan would like apologize to try and like at least smooth things over or at least get you cuz once you apologize to someone I feel like okay then maybe you don't have to talk as much right cuz you're like okay I guess he apologize whatever correct you know what I mean but he hasn't and that's what's the most frustrating thing is when you don't take any accountability but he says in the video he's like I owe a lot of people an apology and you're like well then call them like DMS are open why are you with Boogie right now and what is going on here the interview was wild that interview was crazy I was like why why would he do this right now this is so weird and not apologize to the people that are so vocal about it like and he acts like he didn't even do anything you're like he like beats around the whole thing you know like maybe it was a little bit of a shinny boss and like I had some bad days and not a good batting average and you're like what are you talking about dude did you not see Ariana gr like do you not you are so annoying I wonder if it's like admitting guilt by saying like if he had to apologize to you does that open up a lawsuit I don't know you know what I mean I that's all the probably lawyers are telling them that to not apologize everyone's just kind of told to protect their assets say you know what I mean tot and you're like okay and that's why I think accountability is really hard to happen in these high-profile situations because they think about what they own you know and what could be taken versus doing the right thing and then they got these people around them making money off of them really wanting them not to lose their assets right right like don't say anything yes because we want your money and keep that money there and so it just it's really hard for accountability especially in Hollywood or in high-profile situations to happen because sadly capitalism you know like these things like kind of block accountability because you're told that the only way that people can get Justice most of the time is through Monetary Exchange and because that's how our system is built it's very hard for change to happen because most likely the person doesn't want to have to hand over what they've built or whatever and so it's just a very complicated accountability is so hard in these situations and so I don't think Dan Schneider got a heart-to-heart advice I'm sure he got a lawyer to team to Dan mind to mind you know what I mean maybe he shouldn't have said anything at all you know I agree just it's kind of like the Brian pek CU where is he at he's just like hiding what can you say Brian p is like God I I hope he he can't be around children like what's scary is that he was working so often after he was arrested around children look at all the letters yes I know believe that no that's wild to me the letters are crazy when people write stuff like that I'm like what are you thinking yeah or the fact that like a 14-year-old contempt like a grown man like unbelievable fact that people think this stuff like also just like normal people think this stuff I'm like that's wild like what are you doing yeah and also I love Danny's like you know I uh did not write uh a letter to to for Brian you're like neither did Brian Singer who cares Brian Singer is a creep and he didn't write a letter either cuz probably his lawyers told him not to which probably your lawyers told you not to as well but he's trying to use that as like at least I didn't write a letter it's like bro yeah that's the least of your worries honestly right now right like we see your footage like cuz like with Dan it's like could anyone I'm trying to think like did you do anything criminal there's a little bit of criminal activity just because when you are ever putting children in suggestive um it's it depends where it ends up get like let's say for example I think the only re the only way that it would be able to get become a criminal offense would be let's say if this stuff ends up on the black market like on on other places where children are being exploited because of the content that's being created and you said that that's happened you seen it that I haven't so basically when when in 2019 I didn't know about the Ariana Grande material until 2019 I got sent out of nowhere everyone's like did you see this did you see this and I'm like what is this and I I clicked on it and it took me to YouTube and I wasn't signed in and it said are you 18 or over and I went oh wait how is an Ariana Grande Nickelodeon thing 18 or over and so I signed in and then I would get messages that people were saying that they were on um CP websites okay so people were telling you you didn't actually see it no I would not click on them yeah of course yeah I was like oh no no that is so hard how do you report stuff without right did you try to report it be like I don't know what to do I was like I was processing I was like who to contact I'm like in my studio apartment in Los Angeles you know I'm like this is what is this and and so it I think of he did do things that are on the verge but I would say that it would probably end up being more of a civil situation yeah than it will be a criminal because honestly even look at Brian Peg I mean even in the criminal situation no one does anything but his those accounts were wild when they showed all the charges that he was guilty of I'm like these are crazy these are like heartbreaking yeah I mean that's wild that's why that's why I was thinking with Dan I'm like what I mean really what could I guess you can't really get him other than he's somewhat cancelled he doesn't work with Nickelodeon anymore because said he's trying to come back cuz there was supposed to be a Zoe 101 reboot and they happened they did a Zoe 101 film it was called Zoe 102 oh okay called Zoe 102 and it's like a a it's like a whole whatever and it was on um Paramon plus I didn't know and Dan was not a part of that from my knowledge because this was already after the expose happened so Dan just kind of once that Business Insider article came out it was over okay um pretty much did something it did do something because and he wouldn't respond and you know it was this whole thing and then so yes so I don't he hasn't really been able to have a comeback but I did hear recently that he was having producer rights on like the Henry Danger film and I was like just thinking like do they make shows they don't make shows with kids anymore right who Nickelodeon yeah they do like s like the sitcoms of it like I think like like Jojo Seawall well I don't know what they're doing now these days but yeah JoJo siwa there's that whole thing when you were talking about the gifts there was a really article about her giving gifts to parents that were felt abused the CRS that FAL abuse they'd go home crying afterwards and yeah and they said they in their room would be yeah like a gaming station and be like feel better like come back to set you know like whatever yeah so when he said that I was like oh it's very yeah was a whole thing just a couple months ago the Rolling Stone did an article on it really I two girls came forward at The X OMG pop so yeah I don't know if she's I mean it makes sense if they're working with her yeah wait a minute isn't JoJo sea wall also a person who was Clos with Colleen Ballinger mhm you're like yeah there's a whole thing there still defending no way yeah she still defends the Friendship at 13 years old it's crazy can you imagine if Dan Schneider did his own ukulele I mean kind of quit right kind of see he probably should he probably probably should I mean Colleen Ballinger also worked on a Dan Schneider show she did one episode Victorious oh really is that weird you got to pull that up yeah yeah she it's so like connection that's what I'm saying like the whole connection when we said JoJo sewa like that's like and I feel for her too because she was probably a victim right child star and getting abused on TV where we could see it so it's like yeah I kind of feel bad but yeah the cycle can either be repeated which we've seen obviously other Nickelodeon stars repeating cycle yeah I mean like and it's so when you because it's childhood trauma too you're like my Lord like are you like stunted like did you ever feel stunted at that age like the age of your trauma I think there maybe maybe there was a little bit of that but I I had really my mom was like just even when she had to go to Florida and you know obvious I made this decision to stay back my mom was just always been so like loving and I've always had my mom and so when I look back at my childhood I think if I didn't have my mom I wouldn't be here today after I look back at like my whole life and I look about everything that's happened to me the first person that comes to my mind my mind is my mom that she was really the the rock for me and I always knew I had someone to go to and she never she was just always there like no I can call her about anything and she's my best friend and that existed throughout my whole life and something about that I think I don't know it just it did have effect on my life cuz I don't know I would have probably crumbled a long time ago if it wasn't for my mom her being there yeah it's weird What Love Can Do oh it's so powerful it's the right love you know obviously with your husband you know that it's like yeah so did you ever go to therapy for any of this stuff well you know therapy what I did go to some therapy actually the way the how I got out of um my my abusive marriage was because he every time I try to leave him he would say you're crazy oh your selfworth like you don't love yourself like you don't want to accept love for me and he would send these in emails and so he goes you and I go fine I'm going to go get a therapist and so I got a therapist and this therapist ended up being the person that was like you got to get out of there oh wonderful so him calling me crazy and she was like and that's how I ended up actually escaping now I was only able to pay for it through him because I had no money right and he would only give me he was making like a million dollars I found out way later he also didn't even show any of his preliminary documents during that process either but he was making like a million dollars and I was only getting like you know $1,200 a month you know to just to live and I wasn't able to get any therapy whatsoever and still like therapy is that's why it's really when it comes to Nickelodeon just making this statement out there like whoops like sorry like now when we make a formal complaint like we'll make sure to take care of it maybe kind of sort of whatever and you're like what the best thing they could have done was actually support us through therapy like I think every person that worked for Nickelodeon that has come forward and said I have experienced deep Trauma from this and because you don't pay us residuals I can't get the help that I deserve to guide me through this trauma codeon I think should be paying for their therapy for sure especially when we hear Drake Bell's story you're like at the very least him like you me him like you know go over there and post care yes cuz then it just as a cycle you know all this stuff of being you know friends with minors it's like maybe he's stunted that's the only thing I could think of I'm like okay maybe he wants to be friends with people that are young cuz he feels like he's still at 15 or 14 when he got abused I don't know it's I know it's like I understand it cuz you know being a victim of it you're just like okay maybe there's some stunted growth where he still feels like a young mind or something I don't know this is what also makes me a little bit annoyed because Nickelodeon hasn't paid us that now a lot of people are forced into like curating their careers around the Nostalgia and I think that's dangerous because you're supposed to be able to move on after you've done like a project especially what it has to do with children right because the whole point is like the only people you should be even having book signings with are the people that watched you when you were younger but Nickelodeon airs this all day getting new children to be fans of people that are now 40 years old and you're like what are we doing here like it's crazy yeah I think it's fine to have like young fans I think it's just like don't become friends with that's what it that's what it is and social media makes it seem like you're so close and so now this girl you know they make it seem like they're close and it's just like okay so you don't you don't go anywhere near miners when you're older like you know what I mean we agree on that I was like what like don't do that because it's too even if you're doing it in this fan professional setting it's just why I agree yeah it's just like or just befriending any fans I just want my children like it's my children I want to be around right I'm not really you know what I mean I can I get messages from fans all the time that you see their little like you know thing and you're like oh they're young I don't even open those yeah it's hard because I don't who am I going to talk to yeah and also you don't know if their parents want you to communicate with them like if you should be giving them advice and that could be looked at as something I have never I have only spoken to fans a that were obviously my age and just said thank you so much for sharing yeah and that's the last message you when talking to your fan that's weird to me I think that too I always think that I'm like I think that's a power Dynamic that shouldn't be there no matter what age you know it's why are you I got that with Justin long so Justin long he was oh you should watch my video about Justin long I didn't I had never seen this one I saw like all yours about everyone all it was new to me the Jonah Hill stuff everything was new and I was just like where was I cuz I feel like I'm so connected to this stuff but some there's so much going on all the time honestly with the internet too but Justin long he literally was talking to like a 15-year-old girl and like sending him you know like getting haircuts at the barber and um um at one point uh she says like to be her daddy and she and he's like will your dad let me like something like that it's actually him and it's actually verified and it's him oh my go and you're like why then she's calling him Herby fully loaded character from the Disney movie that he was winning when he was younger and she he's responding and you're like what the hell I don't know it's so dark James Franco I mean I was J Franco what is that I used to write letters like when I was 13 to like 45 50y old celebrities and they would like fly me out to LA and stuff like that like so many it was crazy yeah it happened all the time I was like so Star Struck by anyone if they were like a d list Z list anyone all the way up to I was like 18 yeah oh yeah 16 I was going to like visit people on set that were like 50 years old like crazy yeah but it's it's such a scary thing I put out some people that I've talked to but it's such a scary thing to put out too also just people don't believe a lot of times so I I don't know if you ever experienced that but just like you know things it's unbel or they say you know or they blame I think that's what was so triggering is with those letters about Brian Pac is saying like the 14-year-old tempted me which is what exactly happened when I was younger like well she wrote to me and then you start feeling and then your parents are like well why did you do that why did you do it behind her back so it becomes a like when you share your story it's really brave because I don't think I ever would until other people started I always like wait I was like someday someone's going to talk about this person and then maybe I can join in but it's a different time we don't have a digital footprint I was like writing letters and stuff but you it is very scary cuz I would say for the most part No One Believes survivors and that is why when I started protesting and once I got my megaphone for the first time which was like I don't know my fourth protest I finally got a megaphone and I was like what am I going to say in here what am I going to say through here you know big Warner Music Group you know um and I was like what am I going to say and for for so long the slogan for you know Empower you know power empowering survivors was believe survivors you know you would see the t-shirts like believe survivors and something about that going through the megaphone like felt like I was reliant on someone else to like validate my experience and I remember like going power to survivors and what that felt like to say versus believe survivors like changed my whole life because it's not about I think we're so past you know we've learned so much after the me too movement in regards to how people respond to Survivor hood and what I've really taken away from that is that the most important thing when it comes to Survivor advocacy or just supporting a Survivor is empowering them and making them feel like they do have the power to go seek Justice and um that's it it's not even anymore about relying on somebody to believe them it's about us as a society making sure that everything is set up for them to be able to to get the Justice they deserve and nothing should be blocking that and if anything is blocking that then that means us as a society has to remove those blocks and usually that means listening to what the Survivor is saying like you know these are the things that are complicated like me talking about red light for example like that law needs to change you know there shouldn't be a salt and battery and all this stuff in uh divorce a stipulated divorce agreement you know and so I think the more we listen to survivors it's not necessarily about us believing them it's about us empowering them and I think the minute that we step outside of going I needed to be there to know it's like does that really matter I think what matters is empowering them and going I want a person to go get the Justice they deserve in life and if I'm blocking that then I'm problem to be honest like what is it to you to make things easier for someone just to go seek Justice like that's why I that really dawned on me you know two years ago and it's now I never even really say it like I always say power to survivors I never say believe survivors because it gives too much power to the other people and it's time for survivors to go we got the power we know what happened to us now let us go get Justice and support us and we deserve it and you know what I mean like it changes more yeah yeah you feel like yeah let's go yeah you go petition have you ever gone to like Congress or anything like that to try and petition I might end up doing that yeah that's like that's my next goal I think I've actually been talking to a lot of the people from quiet on set and trying to figure out a way to take this like create some type of legislation how does that even start you like just go protest there it is anytime I can protest I'm going to protest but yeah I'm sure protesting is involved if they don't do something if they don't accept the bill but you know legislation is actually pretty simple in the sense where you do need a lawyer to write it out and then you do need like a legislator to help get it in front of you know the right people so there's a couple steps to it it's just really finding a lawyer that is willing to take the time to write out a proper you know Bill basically and because you can't write it yourself right you really need to make sure lawyer over overseeing that but it's not it's it's more complicated to get people to vote Yes on it because usually Survivor like for example even the California state the the California um adult uh essay bill that we recently got opened up was a coverup bill and the reason why they ended up making this a coverup Act was because they realized that it was going to be a lot harder for them to get people to sign on to opening up the adult statute if if it was just to open up the adult statute because people are like well you know conser there's like you know politics like well how can we believe somebody if it was like 20 years ago and like and then these people are going to lose their assets and like you know that whole thing happens but what everyone definitely agrees on is no one likes cover up of any kind so you can always get the right and the left to agree when cover up is present because anybody who's not anyone who's like no cover Up's chill that's like who are you so they made it the coverup act and that was also able to get these institutions to be you know exposed honestly for how they were covering up sa by these ndas that are literally built bu into their business model but I think it's all about the language so it's I think it's going to probably take at least a year for me to kind of get to that point but it's definitely a goal of mine because sadly these things are really baked into the cake and it's going to take us collectively to pass things through to really create like systemic change you know cuz we I can sit outside all the time protesting and basically I make the noise and I'm like go look there like investigate basically like you go in there you're going to it's bad in there you know what I mean I'm making the noise but eventually what's going to have to happen is how do we make sure that they cannot get away with it anymore yeah to stop it from the future totally what's your first bill you'd want because there's like two big things you have right three four there's so many where do you start what's your first what's your what's your main goal I would probably say that the main goal right now after really Pro sing all so quiet on set like cuz I thought I was the only person even when I sat down I didn't know how many people were going to sit down after me you were surprised to see I surprised okay every person when people would talk about daners I'm like I was shocked so yeah he was there I was shocked it was like heavily about Dan Schneider too it was heavily about Dan Schneider and I was shocked and so after watching that I think there really does need to be some things put into place I would say the most important is that there needs to be a therapist on set at all times oh they have those for reality shows they should have them for children they have them for reality show why did Celebrity Big Brother and they had me talk to therapist like every 20 minutes they're like we have one on set and he'd like come in and you're not supposed to have people in the house and he'd like come in and talk to me yeah what well that's good to know and like this should not be a problem that's I think the first that should be so easy to get that is so good to know it I feel like that has to be like a a union like and legislative like this you have to have a therapist on set because also a therapist has to report if something is abusive so they they they can't be bought out by the the you know whatever Nickelodeon or whatever it is because they have a duty to fulfill for sure yeah and so I think a therapist on set for child actors is going to be the first step because it's not like child actors are going to stop anytime soon sadly therapy for everybody on there for sure I think the I think therapy and also I think there should be no emancipation um or proficiency tests because for me my agent was pressuring me into taking a proficiency test so that it looked like I was graduated from high school so I could work adult hours and that's a loophole that so many uh networks and producers were all allowing amand bid did that right to she did the Emancipation and so I think there has to be like no loopholes like there should be no emancipation proficiency test child labor laws are always set in stone no matter what the hell is happening you know I don't care if like they got adopted by you know I don't care they should always child labor law should always stay put and there shouldn't be loopholes you know around that so there's a couple things that I've been thinking about one of the other things that I would really want to pass would definitely be just opening up the statutes for adult and specifically child you know CSA survivors because the average you know surv the average length of time it takes for a Survivor to come forward is 50 years oh yeah I believe that it's so long and you know if the statistics are there the facts are there you know why aren't our our laws there you know like where's the laws when it comes to understanding that that fact and so I would love just to open up the statutes I think it's really important that we don't have it closed at any point so that survivors just always feel that if and when they want to they can at least on the Civil level you know criminal is another thing but I think on the Civil there are things that the statues don't close you know when it comes to like you know Murder you know like why should a crime like R you know why is that not something that's opened right that is you know it is lifelong trauma like that person's never the same I'm not the same after what happened to me oh my gosh I've G through you're surviving yeah you know it really is yeah surv surv yeah and you're having to always and when the memory comes in I don't know you know I have days where I'm like shower you know the you know you're just constantly it's a lot and so I think that that statute needs to be needs to be opened because 3 to 5 years ain't cutting it yeah that's wild you don't even realize what's happened to you or if it was abuse you know you just don't know not at all you're like think it's normal I thought everything was normal I was like well this is normal like I thought so many things were normal yeah you're like I guess this is what happens and I that's ex and then the me you movement happened and I was like groomy what what is that word what is this oh that's that oh power dynamic I had no idea no I don't think anything that came up until recently now people are talking about it but M and thank God they are and so since we're learning now we got to have the statutes open because so many people didn't even realize sure that certain things were wrong and they're going to therapy their lives are altered for forever and they don't even have any they can't get Justice right the worst is when Justice is blocked and I think that's my main if I were to start really getting active in that space is where where is the blocks like just Justice cannot be blocked right and wherever Justice is blocked we got to remove the blockade because it's so you know I learned that from the stipulated judgment and when you there's nothing worse than something getting in the way of your Justice it is I think as heartbreaking or as ret traumatizing as what you experienced you know what I mean yeah like it takes you back to that victim place where you feel helpless and you feel like like frozen honestly and so I think that would be kind of but there's so much to do obviously you really do need so much help and support it's like a lot for one person especially just also your mental health and all that stuff like that and two kids and two kids and you're doing this and talking about it constantly like hearing it just now like we weren't watching the documentary for so long soz I'm like I just I can't I would see Clips on Tik Tok I'm like I don't want to like it's so heavy we watched it it's so heavy and I'm just like it's just like darkness and like you have to like and it's important you talk about your story but it's like you're living in this Darkness over and over again and it's like such a toll on your mental health but like no one else is going to do it and it's important you do just finding those people to support it well thank you I mean this is even just so nice to be able to sit down here and have people listening because I think the first step in any type of change is just people like listening yeah and making it and hopefully it gets more mainstream I think it will I think qu on that's a huge thing um I know I was like you just feel helpless at the end of the day it's like what can you do but it sounds like you are doing a lot and the patreon people supporting you it's like a huge thing and those are the people was going to change it cuz I think like you said there's so much darkness in there and I think those will change it and you'll change it there's just I I don't I didn't know how to even prepare for this or what to say CU it's just a lot you know um but I definitely have my support I think you have a lot of people's support thank you it took a while you know but thankfully for this documentary and all this stuff coming out it'll continue and I hope you feel a little Justice at least having this come out the validation and above all else Britney Spear is validating yeah right I think that's really it what I'm good apologizes privately publicly in her book I think I I'll be I think that says a lot yeah I hope well thank you so much for being here you guys check out Alexa everywhere she has her own podcast eat Predators on patreon um check her out maybe one day we'll see you uh at the capital with the bill passing all of it it has to this is how change happens right thean account all that stuff like that they'll be an Alexa account reaching out yeah we're excited excited watch it yeah well thank you again I really and um and quite is coming out with another yes no I'm not no no it's Drake it's just kind of like a recap yes it's a recap I think it's on April 6th thank you it's a lot go check out our podcast cuz you talk about all the stuff endlessly n Declassified stuff we haven't even gotten to just so much stuff so go check out our podcast it's it's wild you really get in I trust you with your research so thanks for clarifying it thank you thank you thank you guys we see you next time

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Length: 106min 14sec (6374 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 04 2024