A Balm for Exhausted LGBTQ Christians - Justin Lee at The Reformation Project (2019)

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I try not to post too much OC here, but this one felt relevant to a lot of stuff I've seen people talk about lately, so I thought some folks might appreciate it.

👍︎︎ 17 👤︎︎ u/geekyjustin 📅︎︎ Jan 28 2020 🗫︎ replies

I haven't been able to watch the whole video but what I've seen so far really touches my heart! Thanks for this and I'll be finishing it soon!

👍︎︎ 13 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Jan 28 2020 🗫︎ replies

I've been reading Torn recently and it is giving me a lot of insights! Thank you so much and I will definitely finish the video later!

👍︎︎ 13 👤︎︎ u/1ce_dragon 📅︎︎ Jan 28 2020 🗫︎ replies

Oh my gosh, it’s you! I send people links to your great debate, side A argument all the time! It was such a well thought out argument that perfectly expresses everything I want to tell people. So excited to watch this video as soon as I have time later tonight! Thanks for being you and being inspiring!

👍︎︎ 10 👤︎︎ u/CassieW71 📅︎︎ Jan 28 2020 🗫︎ replies

I still have this talk open in a tab for later, I've gotten through the first quarter so far and I think you do a very good job of describing how a lot of people feel nowadays, myself included. I'm going to watch the rest of it and comment later. I want to give you feedback! Thanks for your work, Justin!

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/blueknightee 📅︎︎ Jan 28 2020 🗫︎ replies

I’ve been reading torn and it’s so insightful. I’ve been recommending it all over this sub lol.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/twodragonsflying 📅︎︎ Jan 29 2020 🗫︎ replies

Hey I just wanted to say that everything you do is so appreciated! I love your book torn and I love watching you speeches! Just though you should know lol

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/lydia7013 📅︎︎ Jan 29 2020 🗫︎ replies

Nice video. As a side B, I didn’t agree with everything you said but I was still pretty awesome.

Mad props for the Contact reference. I adore that movie.

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/majeric 📅︎︎ Jan 29 2020 🗫︎ replies

Well that was refreshing and encouraging, thanks for posting Justin!

I have Torn (and every other affirming book out there) on my shelf and I’ve been terrified to read them because they’ll give me hope. But after listening to that, it may be time. Thanks for sharing!

👍︎︎ 3 👤︎︎ u/Fancy-Locksmith 📅︎︎ Jan 29 2020 🗫︎ replies
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[applause] When Matthew mentioned my name, and then there were some “woos,” I was excited! I was like, “Yay, some woos!” And somebody sitting near me said, “I think it was all women who wooed for you,” and— [laughter] And I’m like, “Okay, first of all, this is an LGBTQ conference. You know you can’t tell somebody’s gender by their voice.” [laughter] But yeah, it was probably the moms. [cheers and applause] You know, truly, I am so grateful to the “mama bears” who have been there for our community, for so many of us, and for me personally. After my mom passed away, there are a number of moms of LGBTQ kids who have just been like surrogate moms for me and have encouraged me so many times. I’m so grateful to all of you for what you’ve done for me, but also for what you’re doing for all of us. And also to the dads, thank you for all that you do as well. You moms and dads are moving things forward in spaces where many of us LGBTQ folks don’t have the ability to be heard yet. I’m so grateful to you. But with all due respect to the moms, you know, as a single guy, I wouldn’t mind getting some woos from some eligible Christian guys once in a while, but it's okay. [laughter] [audience member: woo] [more laughter] Well, this talk just took an unexpected turn. But no, I kid. I am so honored by the warm reception and so thrilled to be here. Some of you know, I have been organizationally homeless for a couple of years now, so it’s wonderful to be here at The Reformation Project, witnessing history in the making the way that we have this weekend. I just have such tremendous respect for Matthew and for the work of TRP, and there’s no place I would rather be right now, so thanks, Matthew, for all that you do and for being such a faithful advocate. So most of the time when I speak, I start off by sharing my story, because I believe stories are powerful and important; I think there’s a reason the Bible is largely made up of stories and that Jesus often taught through stories; stories matter. But since it seems like most of you here already know my story, I’m not going to spend a lot of time on my story this morning. But for those of you who don’t know my story...it is available for sale in the lobby, so um— [laughter] If you hurry and speed read, you can get caught up before the end of the talk. Short version: I received Christ at a young age, I grew up Southern Baptist, I was very anti-gay— And for me at the time, it was “gay,” I didn’t think in terms of “LGBTQ” at that time—but I was very anti-gay at the time, I thought that being gay and being Christian were sort of polar opposites, and then I realized I was gay, surprise! God has a way of doing these things we don’t expect. I tried not to be gay, discovered that didn’t work, and eventually after a lot of prayer and Bible study, I became fully affirming. That is the super-short version. Since then, I’ve spent the last 20-plus years of my life doing ministry work, much of it speaking to people who are not affirming and are not even supportive, often, of LGBTQ folks—trying to be patient with their misconceptions, taking it step by step to help them understand. Because I get it. I believed for a long time that gay Christians weren’t real Christians, that they were just activists—in the worst sense of that term—whose activism and unbridled lust was more important to them than their faith. So once I realized that wasn’t true, I wanted to help other people understand by patiently explaining the stuff that I wished someone had explained to me. And that’s where my book Torn came from. And my organization The Gay Christian Network that I spent 16 years running was both to answer those questions for those folks and to provide support to folks who needed it. By the way, running an organization called The Gay Christian Network had the lovely side effect that I had a corporate credit card that the bank couldn’t fit the full name of the organization on, and so I walked around with this credit card that said, “Justin Lee, The Gay Christian.” Which— [laughter] It was always interesting checking into a hotel for work purposes in Podunk, Alabama, and handing over that credit card, and getting that sort of— I’m like, “Yeah, I’m the one you’ve been hearing about.” But thankfully it wasn’t just me; there were folks who came before me, there are folks who've continued the work after I started, and folks who’ve been doing this work in public and private ways in so many different ways, not just in terms of gay Christians, but LGBTQ+ Christians and family members and friends and pastors and—all of us working for a better church that is more fully living out the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And so I am no longer with that organization, but I am thrilled to be here fully in support of The Reformation Project and Matthew’s work. Matthew, I so admire his integrity, his commitment to Scripture and theological orthodoxy, and his incredible work ethic. And I think this conference is amazing. So, Matthew, thank you to you. [applause] People have asked me, since Torn came out, if I would consider writing a sequel to talk about all the stuff that’s happened since in my life and in the church. And, you know, I did write another book called Talking Across the Divide, but it wasn’t exactly a sequel to Torn. I’ve played around with the idea of, if I did write a sequel to Torn, what it would be called. I thought maybe like, “Torn 2: Bits.” [laughter] Or I considered, “Torn: A New One.” [laughter] People have tried to dissuade me from that title; I don’t know why... But I want to do something a little different this morning. Because you know, very often, the speaking that I do is to conservative Christian audiences that are either not affirming or somewhere on the fence or tiptoeing into being affirming—folks who really need me to do some LGBTQ Christian 101 with them, to answer a lot of really basic questions. And it’s not very often that I get a chance to speak to an audience where there are so many just LGBTQ Christians in the audience who are already affirming, where we get to talk about the stuff that maybe we don’t normally talk about. So there are a few things that I do want to share this morning, just to be a little open about where I am right now in life. I started watching—Apple’s got this new show, I don’t know if you’ve seen it, called The Morning Show. Has anybody seen The Morning Show? [silence] There’s uh—Well, that shows how well Apple’s doing in promoting their new stuff. They have this show called The Morning Show and there’s this scene in, I think, the first episode, where one of the characters who’s a reporter is talking about the state of politics in America. And there’s this moment where she gets caught on camera, she doesn’t know the camera’s rolling, and she’s yelling at this person and she says, “I am so exhausted!” And I was watching this show and I was like, “I feel you. I am exhausted with this world.” Being LGBTQ and Christian is exhausting sometimes. And you know, I think it’s wonderful for us to come to a place like this and talk about all the good stuff and all of the hope and all of the blessings from God, but sometimes we’re just exhausted. I get tired of having to explain myself or hide myself or come out every moment of every day. It’s like— People who are not LGBTQ often don’t realize that LGBTQ folks, you don’t just come out one time. You keep coming out over and over and over and over. If you’re in a relationship with somebody and you’re at the grocery store and you make a decision about how close to stand to that person, you’re coming out again to the people around you. And depending on where you live and depending on who the people are who are around you, maybe it’s not a big deal or maybe it really is. And that can be a lot of tension to hold all the time. But especially as a gay Christian, I find myself tired of having to be “the good gay Christian” all the time. Not that I don’t think that I should be a good Christian all the time, but it’s exhausting to be always under the microscope. Always representing not just myself, but like, all of these other people. Like people are waiting for me to make a mistake. It’s exhausting to have to explain myself all the time. To feel judged by both sides all the time. To hear my LGBTQ friends judge me for being a Christian, and my Christian friends or other folks I meet in my career judge me for being gay. I get tired of not feeling safe in Christian spaces until and unless someone goes out of their way to let me know that it’s a safe space for me. I’m tired of the default being that I have to be on guard until someone explicitly says, “You’re safe here.” And even then being skeptical because of all the times people have told me someplace was going to be safe and then I found too late that it wasn’t. [response from audience] Yeah, by all means, interact with me, by the way, right now. Y’all have been sitting there for a long time and this is heavy stuff, so like, if you want to find your inner Charismatic, I’m all about it. [audience member: Yeah!] I grew up Southern Baptist, where you sit very quietly when people are talking, and I’m done with that. So. [laughter] But I get tired of finding that safe spaces aren’t always safe. And by safe space, I don’t mean I want places where I’m not going to be challenged. As a Christian, I want to be challenged in my faith. What I mean is I want places where I can worship without having to be a personal guide to LGBTQ 101 to everyone all the time—and treated as if I’m guilty of all the negative stereotypes everyone has about gay men until I somehow prove myself innocent. I’m tired of feeling like I have to be twice as pious as a straight Christian to be taken seriously. [applause] Because here’s the thing: I can never live up to those expectations of perfection, because I’m human. And I’m gonna screw up. There’s a Christian, somewhat obscure but pretty awesome, Christian rock band I listened to back in the 90s, and I still listen to them today, called The Choir. And they have a song with these lyrics: “I’m nobody’s angel, I’m not that good. “I’m no red devil in the wicked wood. “I’m a dedicated minister and a downright sinister man. “I’m a whole lot better and a whole lot worse “than what you think I am.” And I know how that feels. To be held up as an angel... or condemned as a devil. And I’m neither one. I’m a human being. And I’m fallen, I’m a sinner, and I’m forgiven and sanctified by the blood of Jesus. [cheers and applause] The thing is, none of us are ever going to be good enough in this life, and that’s the whole point of Christianity. That God sent Jesus Christ to be good enough for us. And I do think, though, that what we believe and what we do matters. I think it’s important that those of us who are LGBTQ Christians not be Christian in name only. And you know, that’s part of the problem, too, because I want affirming Christian spaces where I can worship and feel welcome, and yet not every affirming Christian space feels to me like a Christian space! And yet outsiders tend to assume that any affirming Christian space in the world is a representation of me and what I believe. But just like any other Christian space, there are spaces that I think are doing it better and spaces that I think are not doing it as well. There are leaders that I say, “That person, I really agree with the vast majority of what they say,” and other people I say, “You know, this person and I, we may share some beliefs, but not the vast majority.” LGBTQ Christians struggle, many of us, with shame as well. I find that even after more than 20 years of ministry as a gay Christian, there are still times that I hear that little voice from all the bad stuff I was told about gay people growing up. And it’s something that I’m kind of—I hate to even admit in public. Because I always have this fear, since I’m always under the microscope, I always have this fear that a non-affirming Christian is going to say, “A-ha! If you feel a little voice of shame, that’s the Holy Spirit convicting you.” Right? Sometimes you feel like you can’t admit your weakness without somebody seizing on it. But here’s the thing: There is a huge difference between shame and conviction. They are not the same thing. [applause] I know what it feels like to be convicted by the Holy Spirit, because there are many, many times in my life that the Holy Spirit has convicted me of my own sinfulness. And sometimes I listened and sometimes I didn’t. Sometimes I did this kind of, “la la la la, I’m not listening” thing. But that’s not what this is. This shame that many of us have struggled with in our lives is, I think, a result of having grown up hearing so many negative messages about who we are from the same people who gave us the positive messages about who Jesus is. And it’s very hard to disentangle those two. But, you know, it’s not just “being LGBTQ and Christian” stuff that exhausts me. Secular gay male culture exhausts me. [laughter] No one else has had that experience. Clearly. Dating is exhausting in the gay male world and especially as a gay Christian. And there’s this thing in gay male culture that bugs the heck out of me, where a lot of gay men seem to have taken their cues about how to behave as gay men from reality TV shows. Like they’re living out RuPaul’s Drag Race at every moment. And this, like, cattiness. This mean cattiness toward other people. Which is not strength; it’s meanness. The gay male world is filled with racism and ageism and bigotry and fetishizing and dehumanizing people. And, you know, I want to be clear; I think the secular LGBTQ world as a whole certainly has some significant strengths and things we can learn from, like its commitment to diversity. But I get exhausted by the factions and the call-out culture and the lack of healthy boundaries, sexual and otherwise. And can I be honest? Too often, our community confuses one kind of pride for the other. The word “pride” in English can mean two different things. Right? Pride can be the opposite of shame: “I’m not ashamed of who I am; I’m proud of who I am.” That’s a good kind of pride to have. But pride also can mean not the opposite of shame but the opposite of humility. And that kind of pride is the kind of pride the Bible warns us against. It is a sin. The kind of pride that goes before a fall. The kind of pride that says not “I am glad to be who I am because God created me as something good” but the kind of pride that says “I am so good that I don’t need God.” That’s the kind of pride that led Adam and Eve to decide that they should eat the fruit and be gods themselves. When we talk about pride as LGBTQ people, we often don’t distinguish between these two kinds of pride. What does it mean to us to go to a Pride march or Pride rally and talk about how “proud” we are? Does it mean that we refuse to be ashamed of who God created us to be? Because if so, that’s good. But when we allow that to slip into this idea that we’re so good we don’t need to change in any way, that’s bad. And you know, those are mistakes I expect of a secular world. But they’re mistakes that we as Christians should not make. And yet sometimes we do. But you know, I’m also exhausted by the current state of our polarized world. You ever look at the world and think to yourself, ”We seem to be in some kind of a giant handbasket...” ”...and I’m not sure where we’re heading, but I’m pretty sure it’s not the Good Place.” If it is, though, I want to get Ted Danson’s autograph. Because that man... Like if this were a video game, this is the point where I’d be going, “You know, let me restore from a previous save. I think—” [laughter] We live in a world that mistakes hardheartedness for strength. That mistakes self-centeredness for self-respect. That mistakes self-righteousness for actual righteousness. A world divided by tribalism, where we’re quick to condemn those who disagree with us and slow to empathize with them. An “all or nothing” culture where if you’re only 99% in agreement with me, then you’re the enemy, and you need to be “called out” or “canceled” because that 1% isn’t up to my standards. And you know what, there are times when someone is doing something harmful and they don’t respond to attempts to bring it up privately with them, and so bringing public pressure may be the only option to stop further harm from being done. But we’ve turned this into a cottage industry, everyone on Twitter building their reputation and their follower count by pointing fingers at everyone else for not living up to this standard or that standard. And that is toxic and exhausting. Because the thing is, deep down, we all know we can’t stand up to that level of scrutiny, because none of us is perfect. Every single one of us has parts of ourselves we would rather not share with the whole world. We say #nofilter but of course there’s a filter. There’s always a filter. Get the right lighting, get the right angle. Don’t let people see your flaws. I read this article last week written by a news anchor in Texas who, for years, smiled and projected confidence on TV as he kept the secret of how he and his sister grew up in squalor, living amidst cockroaches and dog feces. And I was thinking, how many of us have lived our lives under a perpetual burden of shame? Shame for our upbringing, for our past mistakes, for experiences of sexual abuse or assault, for our inner lives, for mental illness, or simply for who we are... And we present a version of ourselves to the public, the version we want people to see, but we hide the truths that make us feel unlovable, the things that make it hard for us to even love ourselves. And so people try to counter that with a message that you JUST need to love yourself, but then they do THAT in a toxic way. They behave selfishly and call it “self-care,” and if people complain about their bad behavior, they say things like, “Hey, if you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best!” Which is just a fancy way of saying, “I don’t want to be held responsible for the impact my actions have on other people.” Meanwhile, studies show that we’re getting lonelier and lonelier. And our always-on internet connections and always-available social media aren’t helping matters. And they’re not helping us get closer to the truth either. We live in this Information Age where— You know, before, we got information in little bits. Right? Like little drops of water, take what you can get. And maybe you might believe some falsehoods that come from well-meaning trusted sources. But that was the way information came. You got information where you could. And as the internet started to open up, we started to have access to this little stream of water, where we had access to more information but still plenty of time to fact-check it. Now there was no excuse for being wrong about checkable things because you could just search for the right information. But now we have not a stream of water but a firehose of water. It’s like that scene in the movie UHF, those of you who ever saw that. Where he opens up the firehose— Yeah, okay, thanks to the one UHF fan. This guy’s got a children’s TV show and he says, “Now you get to drink from the firehose!” And the kid comes up and he opens up the firehose and the kid shoots across the room. It’s way too much for anybody to consume. And so there are plausible, true-sounding arguments for just about anything you want to believe. So we all just search for whatever we want and truth is lost amid the noise. I think the church ought to be a purveyor of truth in the world. A trusted source in the midst of that firehose of information. But how do we stand out amid the noise? I think one of the ways we can do that is to invest in people emotionally. This generation invented the term “ghost” because for the first time, technology made ghosting a regular widespread phenomenon. People just disappear because there are always more people waiting. Social media...I mean, normally you might think social media would make us less lonely. But the thing about social media— Actually, um, speaking of which, I need to Instagram this. Hang on a second. [laughter] [continued laughter] Uh, Matthew, wherever you are, you want me to tag you in this? Go ahead. I‘m— Keep talking, I’m listening. Yeah, keep talking, I’m listening. I‘m listening. Reformation Project...speaking at the Reformation Project...Conference... #nofilter Okay. So. [applause] So anyway, the thing about social media... Oh, I got likes already. I’m listening. No, I love my phone but these things become addictive. And it leads to a fake kind of connection. Our attempts to connect make us more lonely. Because it’s shallow. It’s like being thirsty and drinking gallons of saltwater. And it just makes things worse and worse and worse. The thing that you think is going to help you is slowly killing you. What kills me though is that the church has something to offer to address all of these things. And yet we’ve lost our salt and light in the world. We’ve become known for so many bad things—for the anti-gay pastor who turns out to be gay, the trusted leader who was abusing members of the flock, the hypocrisy, the self-righteousness, the ex-gay movements.... ...that for so many of us, the world out there and the folks in here, the church is no longer a safe space. And so people are leaving. They’re falling away. Years ago, back when I was in middle school, so a lot of years ago, I had a math teacher who knew that I was a math geek, and he gave me this sort of extracurricular problem. And it was this algebra sort-of proof. He started with givens and then ended up with “one equals two.” And I’m like, “I know that can’t be right. One doesn’t equal two.” And so I went through every step of the problem. But it all seemed right. So I went through every step of the problem again. Every step made sense. “Yeah, you add to both sides, subtract from both sides, you multiply, you divide. You do this, you factor it, and... one equals two.” I couldn’t figure it out. Imagine if we gave people that problem and they said, “Well I know one doesn’t equal two, so clearly math is bunk.” “The answer’s wrong, so...I’m giving up on math.” “Clearly you can make math say whatever you want it to say.” And the danger is we start to believe it. But here’s the thing. Math isn’t the problem. Math is the solution. The solution to bad math is better math. And I finally figured out where the trick was. It involved division by zero, for the math geeks who really care. But it was a cleverly disguised division by zero. The math wasn’t the problem. It was that the math was being applied incorrectly. Jesus isn’t the problem. Jesus is the solution. But misuse of Jesus is the problem. Because you misuse the name of Jesus often enough and eventually people stop trusting the name. I believe Jesus is the Savior of the world, and that matters, because even when our fellow Christians let us down, Jesus is the answer to all of these questions. What Christ offers is not simply one more option in a never-ending list of competing life philosophies. Jesus says, “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.” I think about— My favorite Pixar film is Ratatouille. I love Ratatouille. The little rat is up in the guy’s hat and like secretly controlling him, because the rat can cook and the guy can’t. And the guy is the vessel by which the rat cooks. But eventually, the guy starts to think that all of the acclaim people give him is true. And he leaves the rat by the side of the road. But he’s not the cook. He’s not the chef. Remy the rat is the chef. It’s the Holy Spirit— I don’t know why I compared the Holy Spirit to a rat. Ignore that. [laughter] It’s the Holy Spirit working in us that people need to see. [applause] Instead of saltwater that takes more than it gives, Jesus offers us living water: Forgiveness of our sins, salvation for our souls, but also a quenching of the deepest longings of our hearts in the here and now; God with us, bringing peace and joy and all the rest of the fruits of the Spirit. And you know, we’re saved by grace through faith, not by works. But this doesn’t absolve us of the need to do God’s will. Luke 8:21, “My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice.” I think how we live as Christians matters. Some people have gotten the impression that LGBTQ Christians believe that because of grace, God’s commandments don’t apply to us. But Jesus came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it. And that’s not our message; the point is that we believe the Bible doesn’t condemn being LGBTQ, and for those of us on Side A like The Reformation Project, we believe the Bible also doesn’t condemn same-sex marriage. And we have Side B Christian brothers and sisters who would disagree with us on that. But none of us are saying that God’s commandments don’t matter; they do matter. How we live matters. So how do we live? Well, that would be a whole talk in and of itself, right? A whole sermon series. That could be Torn 2. But Micah 6:8 says, “What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?” Do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God. Do justice. We’re called to do justice, not just not do injustice. Not just to sit by on the sidelines like the person who buried his talents in the sand and gave them right back to the master. You remember that parable? No, we’re called to invest. To DO justice. To get involved. To make a difference. To put more justice into the world than was there when we started. That’s a big part of what The Reformation Project is about. It’s a big part of what it is to be a Christian, to be DOING justice in the world. Doing justice is about investing something temporal (our time and talents and money) in something eternal (people, whom God loves). Storing up our treasure in heaven. And we’re called to do justice with boldness and audacity. Jesus tells this story in Luke: “Suppose you have a friend, and you go to him at midnight and say, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves of bread; a friend of mine on a journey has come to me, and I have no food to offer him.’ And suppose the one inside answers, ‘Don’t bother me. The door is already locked, and my children and I are in bed. I can’t get up and give you anything.’ I tell you, even though he will not get up and give you the bread because of friendship, yet because of your shameless audacity he will surely get up and give you as much as you need." “Shameless audacity.” I love that. That’s the NIV rendering. The NASB says “because of your persistence.” The ESV—this is maybe my favorite one—says “because of your impudence.” [laughter] But notice, the reason the hero of the story is being so “impudent” is to care for another person. Not, “Hey, knock knock knock, wake up and give me some cake because I’m feeling a craving coming on.” No, “This other person needs bread; I don’t have it but you do. Will you give it to me to give to them?” That is a key message for allies. And you know what? All of us are allies of someone. [applause] So we’re called to do justice and then we’re called to love mercy. “Love” is, I think, a higher order than “do.“ We’re not just called to DO mercy, but to LOVE mercy. You know, you can do something but do it begrudgingly, because you’re required to, but when you love something, you’ve got to be passionate, you’ve got to be all in for it. And we’re called to love mercy, to be all in for mercy. And when we truly love mercy, then our every action, our every fiber of our being should be infused with mercy. Because God has been so merciful to us that we can’t help but show mercy to others. To those who hurt us. To those who still need to grow and learn. To those who are sinners, just as we are. Done improperly, done the world’s way, justice and mercy seem to be opposites. I think part of the problem with “cancel culture” is that it is so often justice without mercy. But the hero of Jesus’ story about the bread is persistent in what he asks for but doesn’t treat the person inside the house as the enemy. The person says, “Friend, give me this bread.” Not, “You jerk, get up!” You can’t change people’s minds by treating them as enemies. Mercy means treating people with lovingkindness, but it also means forgiving those who have wronged us. And you now, that may be one of the most scandalous things Jesus teaches. Because that’s not how our favorite stories normally work. You know, in all our favorite Disney classic films, the villain usually meets a violent end, and we want the real world to work that way. One of my favorite moments in one of my favorite films, The Princess Bride... [cheers] ...is where Fred Savage’s character, the kid who’s hearing the story of The Princess Bride, interrupts his grandfather, telling the story, and says, “Wait a minute. Who kills Humperdinck?” His grandfather says, “I don’t understand.” He says, “Who kills Prince Humperdinck?” (The villain of the story.) “Who kills Prince Humperdinck? “At the end! Someone's gotta do it. Is it Inigo? Who?” And his grandfather says, “Nobody. “Nobody kills him. He lives.” And Fred Savage’s character says, “You mean he wins? “Grandpa, what did you read me this thing for?” We want to see the worst possible thing happen to our enemies. In the Old Testament, we see David and others longing for vengeance. “God, smite these people!” And then Jesus comes along in the New Testament and says, “Love your enemies. Pray for those who persecute you. Forgive as you want to be forgiven.” Jesus says it, the writers of the epistles say it, we hear it over and over: Love those who don’t treat you with love. Nobody kills Prince Humperdinck. It’s God’s will that Prince Humperdinck would be forgiven in the end. Now Prince Humperdinck does at least get humiliated in The Princess Bride. We like the idea of that. But Jesus suggests that the true happy ending is one where the villain gets forgiven. And that’s one of the hardest teachings in Christianity. And that, not the LGBTQ stuff, should be the real reason people get frustrated with Christianity. There’s a scene in a recent episode of The Good Place, where a character says— Ah, not as many woos as The Princess Bride. Sorry. Where a character says, “When people like him are ignorant jerks, why are people like us asked to forgive him?” That’s the question the secular world asks. It’s a reasonable and compelling thing to ask from the world’s perspective, but Christianity says God has a different perspective. Because God sees how far all of us are from righteousness. But God also sees the good in us. God loves us. When the Bible tells us that all of us are sinners, the point isn’t for us to go around feeling terrible all of the time; the point is to give us the perspective that we need to recognize how much God has loved and forgiven us, in large part so that we can love our fellow sinners. Now, I’m not saying no one is a villain. There are people who intentionally cause harm to others, but if we treat everyone we disagree with as villains, we run the risk of being the equivalent of the boy who cried wolf. The LGBTQs who cried “problematic.” And even with the worst villains out there, God doesn’t give up on them. But mercy must go with justice. Jeremiah 6:14 says, “They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, ‘Peace, peace,’ when there is no peace.” We don’t want to ask people to be “healed lightly.” You ever had someone wound you deeply and then ask you to move on as if no wound occurred? Mercy without an eye toward justice is cheap grace. And yet it’s so easy for use to use that “peace, peace” passage to justify not forgiving those who have wronged us. But we’re still called to forgive. Because that’s an Old Testament passage and Jesus shows up in the New Testament and says, “Spoiler alert: mercy wins in the end.” We’re still called to have mercy, even when it’s painful. Even when there is no peace. But Jesus was not preaching cheap grace. Jesus understood that to show mercy to one who has done you wrong exacts a cost. And Jesus said, “I’m going to show you what it looks like. “Because I’m going to let you kill me. “And with every lash of the whip and every degrading humiliation and every pound of the nail into my flesh, I’m going to show you what God’s grace looks like.” In a world where everyone is a victim, everyone is holding a grudge and pointing a finger, Jesus teaches us this painful, costly, powerful, redeeming grace. And that is what the world needs to see from us. And let me tell you something. The LGBTQ people in this room who have been hurt the most, and all of us who have been hurt the most by the church, are in the best position to show the world what that grace looks like. [applause] Do justice, love mercy, walk humbly. Walking humbly to me suggests that our daily lives should be characterized by humility at all times. You know, we live in a culture of self-promoters, and yet we are called to serve others, as Jesus washed the feet of those who were beneath him and told his disciples to do likewise. Matthew mentioned earlier this weekend his friend and mine, Rachel Held Evans. I was at Rachel’s funeral. Rachel was a very good friend to me. Rachel always was willing to take time out of her day to offer encouragement. I found out after she died that she had a sticky note on her exercise equipment to pray for me on a regular basis. For me personally. Rachel was way more famous, way better known, had way more demands on her time than me. And I got to this funeral, and I met so many Christian leaders there. And every one of them had a story about how Rachel was like one of their best friends. For all of the ways in which Rachel got public acclaim and worked social media well and wrote these books and did all these great things, she took even more time to care on a one-on-one basis for so many other people, in a way that she never expected to be public. And all of these other leaders, who were struggling with all these other things in their own lives, had so many stories of how Rachel had been there for them and supported them and loved them and shown them grace. And never made them feel like a burden to her. And I truly do not know how she made time for it all. But that’s who I want to be. That’s what it looks like to walk humbly. Walking humbly also means that we all have to be open to correction. A lot of us have been so burned by folks in the church telling us the things that were “wrong” with us that we get like this sunburn where even a light touch feels like an assault. And so we don’t want any correction ever. But you know, at some point, we’ve got to heal from that and move on and get to a place where we can accept healthy correction from our church. We need our church to offer us boundaries that the secular world doesn’t and help us figure out how to do all this well. We need to be sensitive to the needs of those who have been burned and hurt by the church, but then we also need to figure out, how do we heal? So we do justice and we love mercy and we walk humbly, and that’s not the end. The end says, “Walk humbly...with your God.” We’re so used to hearing that, I think it’s easy for us to not think about what a powerful phrase that is. “Walk humbly with your God.“ I mean, imagine if I said to you, “Hey, could you do this task, I need you to do this thing. Could you do this thing...with Meryl Streep?” [laughter] “I’ve got a little thing, if you don’t mind doing this...with Beyoncé. She needs some help.“ The God of the Universe says, “I want you to do this...with Me. I’m gonna walk with you.” And that should give us both the humility of recognizing that we are in no way worthy to walk in the presence of the Creator of the universe, except through Christ... ...and the confidence of knowing God has our backs. And LGBTQ folks, we need that confidence, because we need to recognize something important: We are not standing outside the church knocking on the door, hoping someone will let us in if we’re persistent enough. We already are the church. We already are the Body of Christ. [applause] We are the salt and the light. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you.” Jesus says, "Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” Some translations say, “from out of their hearts.” John continues: “By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive.” So the living water Christ gives us isn’t only to quench our thirst. It’s also to flow out of our hearts and into the lives of others. At the end of the day, when we put Jesus at the core of it, not relying on the church that has sometimes gotten it wrong, not relying on the secular world that sometimes exhausts us to tell us how this is supposed to be done... When we put Jesus at the center of it, Jesus says in Matthew, “Come to me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” If you’re exhausted, hear that message this morning. “Come to me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” There’s this beautiful illustration in another one of my favorite films, Contact. If you haven’t seen it, with Jodie Foster and Matthew McConaughey, it’s a great film. And if you haven’t seen it, go see it with no spoilers. Don’t read about it, don’t watch the trailer. It’s such a good movie to just go in blind. It deals with science and religion. The main character is a scientist who is also an atheist but she’s pursuing the idea of life in outer space and she meets this religious figure— He’s, it’s... You know, he doesn’t always behave the way that I would hope that he would, but it’s a Hollywood film. But... He challenges her on this: “You don’t believe in God but you believe in this other stuff you also have no evidence of.” And there’s a moment in this film where a new, important piece of equipment has to be built. And the ones doing the building are not the ones who did the designing. And the builders notice that in the original design, the safety features are apparently not up to code. And so they add a piece to this machine for safety’s sake. But when they fire up this new equipment, something is not working right. And it shakes and shakes and shakes and it’s terribly uncomfortable to use... ...until the piece that they added, this extra piece, this extra burden piece for safety, this piece that they added falls off. And then everything works smoothly. When we go and add burdens onto people that God didn’t give them to begin with, we find that things don’t work the way that they’re supposed to. I challenge people— In Genesis 3, I’ve talked about this before, but people challenge me that, “Well, in Genesis, the serpent says, ‘Did God really say...?’ “And Justin, that’s what you’re doing, you’re questioning the words of God by being an affirming Christian, saying, ‘Did God really say...?’” But if you go and read the passage, what the serpent says is, “Did God really say... ...that you couldn’t eat from any tree in the Garden?” And the answer to that is “No!” God didn’t say they couldn’t eat from ANY tree in the Garden; God said, “Don’t eat from this one tree.” The serpent wasn’t questioning the words of God; the serpent was subtly adding burdens and making God seem unreasonable. “Did God really say you couldn’t eat from ANY tree in the Garden? How unreasonable is God!” When we as a church put extra burdens on folks, things don’t work the way they’re supposed to. And some of us have spent a lot of years apologizing, feeling like we have to escape from these burdens on a loophole, but secretly feeling like if we were stronger and more able to cope, we would be able to fit within the stricter rules. But Jesus doesn’t offer that kind of burden. Jesus says, “I want to take these burdens off of you.” So if you’ve been carrying that burden... As we close, just close your eyes for just a moment. Whatever burdens you’re carrying, whatever that tension that is that you’re feeling... The exhaustion... The feeling of not living up... The frustration with the world... The feeling that you have to somehow carry it all on your shoulders... I want you to hear this morning that God loves you. That God knows about that thing that you are frustrated with... That thing that you feel shame about, whatever it is... God knows about it and God loves you... And God knows your burdens... And God wants to give you rest. Take a deep breath and feel that rest. And as God lifts those burdens off of you, God says, “Let me take you where I want to send you. “Let me use you. “Let me put people in your path and give you opportunities to change the world, one person at a time. “And you may suffer. “And there may be a cost. “But trust in me, and I will keep renewing your spirit. “Do justice. “Love mercy. “Walk humbly with your God. “For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Amen. [applause] Thanks for watching. For more, subscribe on YouTube and visit GeekyJustin.com.
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Published: Tue Jan 21 2020
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