300 Win Mag vs 45/70

what's up guys welcome to EMS ballistics today we have the coolest video two of my all-time favorite rounds the 300 Winchester Magnum 4570 government going head-to-head [Music] okay the bullets were comparing today are two very different animals which is why this is such a cool comparison video the 300 Win Mag is more suited for longer distance long range shooting stuff like that whereas the 45 70 and a thousand yards is like throwing a rock however for 200 yards and closer the 4570 is just an absolute monster the 300 Win Mag is by far one of my favorite 30 caliber rounds a little bit of history about both of these cartridges starting with the 300 Win Mag a 300 Win Mag when i was growing up was kind of a kind of a mythical creature because i grew up hunting and stuff like that but I always used my lever-action 3030 that was my my go-to I loved it I shot many deer with with the 3030 and also with a shotgun I shot my first deer I ever killed was with a 12-gauge buckshot shotgun so the biggest rifle my father had growing up was a 30.6 and to me that was the pinnacle of of rifles in general you know when I was a little kid you know 12 13 years old I had heard about the 300 Win Mag and a lot of my friends and stuff at school you know were fellow hunters and you know we were in middle school I guess but at the same time you know for us that was life you know we were a bunch of little redneck kids and and we that's what we talked about we talked about hunting and guns and and stuff like that so America but anyway the 300 Win Mag it was it was made in 1963 by Winchester it was made for the Model 70 and it's a 7.62 by 67 and essentially what the three on wind mag is is a shortened 375 H&H anyway one of my favorite rounds the three on wind mag is a just incredible long-range flash shooter tons of power tons of punch extremely accurate helluva round helluva round help around the 4570 government is definitely one of my favourite rounds of all time and the reason being is the versatility and what I mean by that is this it's it's a bone crusher it is a just a hard hitting monster you know 200 yards in closer this is a 325 green bullet in a 4570 case okay with a FTX flex tip this is a 500 grain in the same case that's what I love about it is it's so versatile because the case is so long and wide okay but that's what makes it so versatile and that's why I love it is you know you say oh you're shooting a 4570 well yeah but there's hundreds of different combinations you can run for the 4570 that is that are just unreal I mean I've got some 460 grain plus P hard castes I've got the 500 grains I've got the 325 grains you know they make 250 grains it's just it's such a versatile case the 4570 was born in 1873 and it was made for the trapdoor springfield and it got its name from being a 45 caliber bullet with 70 grains of black powder zat 4570 he used to be called the 45 7405 because the shot a 405 grain bullet the original loads that came out in the late 1800s were they'd shoot about 1350 feet per second 405 grain bullet and in the 1800's that's a lot that's ridiculous that's awesome so enough about these two amazingly historic cartridges let's get busy shooting them okay we're going to be doing three different kinds of tests kinetic energy testing damage testing and penetration testing okay the first test we're going to do is damage testing and what that means is we're gonna be shooting flesh so here we have a full pork shoulder bone in giant bone in there and the flesh is all on the front so still has all the flesh intact and then on the backside a lot of meat we're gonna hit it with the 4570 and then we're gonna hit another one with the 300 Win Mag okay first up on the damage test Marlin 1895 G 16 and a half inch barrel 4570 government see what happens all right let's check out this pork shoulder from the 4570 hit okay here's our entrance hole right through the flesh and a big nasty exit holy moly look at that just complete anihilation the bone everything is just God Wow okay now for the 300 Win Mag same thing big pork shoulder real nice exact same bone-in pork shoulder I'll go shoot this one from 50 yards just like we did the 45 70 okay now for the 300 Win Mag we're using a remington 783 bolt-action with a clamp on muzzle break I don't know what this one's gonna do find out so my thinking is the 4570 from close range would annihilate the 300 Win Mag I was wrong looks very similar to the 45 70 but look at this exit wound oh oh I'd say the 300 Win Mag did a hell of a lot more damage this is not the result I was expecting I was expecting the forty five seventy at such a close range and such a bigger bullet man it broke all the bones and just decimated this thing okay let's step it up we're gonna move on to penetration testing with water jugs between the 45 70 and a 300 Win Mag in that first round for the forty five seventy we used a Hornady level revolution 325 grain FTX and for the 300 Win Mag we used 150 grain Winchester Super X soft point okay in this round we're going to start with the 300 Winchester Magnum instead of the 45 70 instead of the 150 grain soft point that we used on the pork shoulder we're gonna use 180 grain power point for maximum penetration okay 180 grain speedster how many water jugs you think the 300 is gonna go through I say five and stop in the sixth one okay let's see what we got way over here number one number two number three there's some fragments in there number three number four in and out number five actually we stopped in number five okay so with the 300 Win Mag we got four complete pass throughs and then a stop and the fifth let's see what the forty five seventy can do all right let's check out the damage on the 4570 and I'm actually a little surprised because I see something that I did not like to see six I'm sorry I miscounted it was actually seven it didn't go into the eighth jug it went into the seventh jug cuz I only had seven on the table for that shot beautiful beautiful beautiful this is a hornet ii ft x and it went through six and stopped in the seventh so I'd say 300 Win Mag won the first round the 4570 wins the second round good that means we have a tiebreaker for the third kinetic energy the results from test two actually surprised me a bit I thought the 300 Win Mack was gonna stomp the 4570 when it comes to penetrating a water barrier but I was wrong so in this test we're gonna shoot from 60 yards 300 Win Mag 150 grained soft point winchester super X like we did the first time with the pork shoulder alright 150 grain mm it's all point this things you transfer a lot of energy ballistics on this thing is 3,300 feet per second and 3400 pounds of muzzle energy so it's gonna thump it pretty good all right here we go we might need to step it back a little bit it will go for a hundred yards this time cuz that 300 Win Mag went right through this AR 500 steel ok the wind has really picked up it's getting pretty nasty out here damn tornadoes 150 grand winchester super accent soft point show that again now we're on the back about a hundred yards I was trying not to get struck by lightning out here let's see what happens I I don't think it'll penetrate from 100 yards as we were previously at the 55 so we added another 50 yards and that should be enough to slow it down I'm gonna die out here hi here we go 100 yards apparently not in Kansas anymore [Music] right 300 Win Mag put it put a nice swing on that target from 100 yards suna 4570 could do 325 grain lever revolution from a hundred yards see what happens [Music] Oh got that last shot off rav4 started raining yeah I'll get my GoPro before it gets soaked I can't believe it blew that target over like that I mean that 4570 really not the crap out of that target though what do we learn from today's test well basically whatever one thought before you know if your brush hunting or bear hunting or anything like that a 4570 is probably what you want to bring you know here in Florida we don't really have anything big enough to use a 45 to 70 on except maybe uh you know a big ol alligator or something well for long-range hunting absolutely 100% the 300 Win Mag it's just it's a it's a wonderful long-range gun the 4570 I mean that thing drops like a tank after 200 yards you know 20 yards and closer I'm bringing my 4570 every single time 200 yards plus it's around Irwin mag is it definitely what I'm bringing now all this I'm talking about hunting of course but just for badassery I don't know I can't really say okay so the 4570 when's the test however all it really did was prove what everybody kind of thought that up close the 4570 is king from far away 300 Win Mag is dominant check back with us next week we're gonna do an awesome video on 9-millimeter defensive ammunition we had a poll on the website about you know what video to do the 4570 verse 3 in a wood mag or the 9-millimeter defensive ammunition and it was such a close tie that I'm just I'm just gonna go ahead and do both videos and so next week that's the one that's gonna come to you so stick around hang out check out some other videos that we have on our channel we have some pretty cool ones with you know self-defense and ballistic gel testing stuff like that but in seeing if you could like fireworks by shooting them with a 4570 so go ahead and subscribe to the channel and then we can keep you up to date with each video that comes out every week so see you next time [Music] [Music]

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Length: 15min 34sec (934 seconds)

Published: Sun Jun 17 2018