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here's an interesting thing so people are commenting on the coasters yeah yeah they love the coffee table they love it that that is an awesome they're very upset that there were no coasters oh they weren't using so is that why we have coasters now um well tim hale says maybe there's no table and that is just a really big coaster he's doing jokes i like that joke because that is that's that's just coasters savages idiots who said that uh dez oh damn smash adams says where are the coasters what the [ __ ] right now zg says they keep the humidity at zero percent so they don't have to worry about condensation [Music] we did sort of talk about my dry lips on the last one joe joestar wants to know do we do you even respect wood yeah do i respect wood no that's uh are you that's one thing yeah are you serious like are you here here we go megan's working yeah megan's work it's just the bros and you almost weren't here yes but here you are here i am i'm literally in wardrobe of of mythicquest yeah it's exciting so your guy dresses not dissimilarly to the way you dress well the sneakers i i think yeah these are um i've got a it's sort of like a cult leader look oh that is a very culinary look leader would probably have their own type of sneaker yeah right well no they were just the heavens yeah the heavens gate heavens guys they they all were nike high tops did yeah that was part of getting into the through the gate i guess you know when when they were all lifted to heaven you know if somebody caught you with a pair of adidas on they'd be like no you know and we and you know what the funny thing is we act like that's ridiculous as if all the other funny hats and weird [ __ ] that people wear for other religions that have been around for thousands of years parties choose what i mean yeah exactly like there's that like heart god dress you of a lot of religions where it's like make sure you wear a hard dress shoe in a very thin sock yeah what's with the thin socks what's with the thin sock man people are going to freeze to death their toes are going to fall off yeah yeah i forgot a lot of cold countries here where they're demanding the thin socks thin sock and a thin shoe or just cover yourself in fabric just be draped in fabrics and fabrics and fabrics why did god want you so fabric covered he definitely want you bedazzled oh lots of jewels yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah certainly on your hats the leaders on your hands the whales want you covered in jewels and some gods want you in no jewels and just sort of drab meek robes and yeah can somebody explain i don't really understand this bible verse and you you you did you went to a school where you know yeah you guys studied a lot and i i went to church a lot but i didn't actually study it in school um the meek shall inherit the earth yeah i would have thought that it would have been the rich shall inherit the earth the meek are going to do great in the afterlife because i thought that was the whole thing i think it's also a part of the promise when the meek when the meek were like wait a second we got the numbers and then yeah the the the strong were like well no the people in power were like no you have the heaven and then and then they're like okay that's good and that worked for a while and then the meek were like but can we have it here too and they were like [ __ ] all right let's just promise it to him yeah yeah right let's talk a great way to stay rich is to tell a poor person that the best thing you can be is poor me yeah yeah yeah yeah and you will eventually inherit the earth no no no no no no no not today maybe after you're dead um maybe generations from now yes your meek uh grandchildren um but the problem is inheriting the earth that's like that's some serious wealth and then you're no longer meek so it's also a lot of responsibility yeah like how does that work how does that world shake out once you've inherited the earth you're no longer [ __ ] man i used to be meek but i have the whole earth now yeah and now i can't it's tough to stay meek and now i can't go to heaven so i'm i gotta i should just give it bro you still meek oh man sold out he ain't meek anymore he's sold out he's got the earth and [ __ ] yeah that's i feel we we were meek before megan made us do the ads and now we're not getting air stronger now we have inherited the earth um another very manipulative one where the rich people are like hey listen i know it looks like i've got everything going for me and and i do but it's gonna be really hard for me to get into heaven yeah you know so once i die that's where this whole thing falls apart for me and everything is you know great great for you so my advice to you you stay there my advice to you would be stay under my shoe yeah you know what i mean yeah yeah basically just figured out i like that you what's hard to figure out which parts um metaphor and which parts literal and that's the fun of the bible is that like it was all when it was written it was all literal and then slowly over time slowly over time that part's a metaphor clearly clearly yeah where's the bible land on ghosts i was thinking i was having a conversation about ghosts the other day well the ultimate ghost right is is i mean he's part of the holy trinity the holy ghost i gotta think about ghosts so you know a lot of people believe in ghosts and that's fine but like that's fine that's fine you know like teach throne but they only believe in like human ghosts right people aren't like man i saw the ghost of a worm the other day and it freaked me out you know what i mean don't hear a lot of that the ghost of a worm now is your point uh why is it that only humans have ghosts and why is there not a ghost of a worm kind of arrogance there i think uh and maybe kind of blows the whole theory up that like they're only only human souls can be trapped and walking around maybe people are like oh i saw the ghost of my cat yeah like maybe but like at what point did they stop it's like i killed the fly and then an hour later i saw the ghost of that fly and it came back to be like i wasn't ready to die a tragedy happened you know like there's a great idea in this and i love it you never get that yeah yeah this this seems like a good uh that's for the race for the writer's room i don't know we could put it in sunny you're thinking all right this is a good segue into some fun fun things i came and i saw a ghost i saw a girl yeah who was it it and you know he's i guess he's in purgatory you know we yeah he can't pass to the other side until i make peace with this tapeworm yes yes yeah that's a that is that's a good jumping off okay all right and then you get the whole like para normal people which are fascinating yes trying to it's also great to call them in and then reveal to them once they're there with all their equipment that it's a that it's a tapeworm they're looking for yeah yeah yeah they're like wait what yeah and then they they have to explain that it's only and then you find it and then they have to confess like look this whole thing was kind of a fraud but now i'm not so sure because i i saw jerry i'll be honest with you the only ghost i've ever actually seen is was this tapeworm that you spoke yeah they have to admit it yeah i've guys i've heard segwaying a little bit i've heard from a number of people out on the street or even people at work at this other show that i do um or on the weekends i was at disneyland this past weekend uh i do another show yeah on apple called mythicquest oh [ __ ] that's exciting congratulations disneyland was a good time uh disneyland was amazing you went to disneyland i went to disneyland okay yes with some with some friends and it was amazing and there were so many people there obviously it was disneyland and i heard over and over and over again loving the podcast love in the podcast good okay and i always ask people what it is that they like about it just because i'm interested in it and yeah 90 of the people say that they listen to it on the way to work yeah i hear more listeners than uh than i hear creeps but i know you're out there because we see the numbers you're watching um people listen to us on their way to work and they're on their way home from work and it's and it feels like they're hanging out with their friends hanging out with their buds yeah and i like that because i feel like i'm hanging out with my friends well we are i have more fun on the podcast having conversations like this because i feel like i'm talking to my friends as opposed to talking about the episodes themselves you know i recognize the fans do like yeah and it is interesting and boy this this one uh is a heck of an episode uh yeah and uh how do we talk about it how do we yeah well we could i we can say this again making sure that this podcast does not become the uh an apology tour because that's just going to get boring and there's no need for that either but we have recognized that at the time we truly felt um that that was that that was a word that was used commonly and that made sense well well but it was also a word that was abused by people who you know are awful people yeah our characters are awful people yes but this was used because where it totally it deviated from the characters to the way that we were using it so casually it to me made it feel like the filmmakers us at the time yeah were not conscious of what we were saying and how pain painful that could be for people because it is a derogatory term that is we didn't know that at the time well i mean that is correct it was much more commonly used at the time let's face it yeah and then i think over the what has it been a decade more way longer yeah since since we did since we did that it's become 15 15 years dude 15. yeah it's become you know we've as a society said let's let's get rid of this term but by the way if you recall we weren't even going to have person in the title we were going to say sweet destiny yeah yeah and our word yeah it was almost yeah but then what we what we realized was at the time that was the derogatory and we did use it and the character did use it in the episode once uh which was the abbreviated version of it but when we titled that it's different because that's the filmmakers titling something right right but then but what we thought at the time was that the full word was something that was acceptable even in the community right as being and it wasn't until later when we realized that that was not the case and i think culturally we it was accepted as well so it is what it is but ultimately the the characters get their comeuppance for using the word so liberally and and asking a little kev and then he eviscerates them yeah and yes and that's why continually when we're asked hey how do you get away with this or whatever the we recognize that our audience can watch something and recognize that it's of a time and place and that they know where we stood at the time and where we stand now and that's how we get away with it yeah yeah yeah we say it a lot in the episode oh yeah yeah each time i yep me too just just cringe a little bit right like just feel it go up here you're just fine so much great stuff in the episode yeah it's super funny i mean that's really sweet it's really funny i mean kyle's kyle's amazing is amazing can you imagine anyone else playing that part i mean kyle completely nails that role yeah he was like a skateboarder and he he had something with his eyes blind in one eye right like he'd had an accident oh something yeah i don't remember what it was that happened but yeah and he just dove into that character and nails it walks that fine line of you can't tell if he's yeah if there's something going on there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well the whole episode was born out of us always never wanting to make fun of people with uh developmental disabilities but it was to make fun of uh rappers who had that affected especially white rappers that had that affectation and we had heard a few and i love eminem it wasn't really eminem it was a couple of like low-grade m ms that were coming out around the time and you couldn't understand what the what the [ __ ] they were talking about right interviews and things like that we're like oh they sound it does fill in the words and so let's go let's have a go at them yeah what if what if there was someone like that and we weren't sure yeah yeah i mean it's one of those premises and he's go gold digging he's clearly gold digging through the whole whole episode yeah which is a lot of love like that that i say that he really is you know i don't want to use the word but that he really is you know and then later i'm like okay fine he what he's not he's not and she's like why would you do that and then she leaves and i'm like and and you guys are like what so he wasn't so he's not and i'm like i don't know who he is yeah yeah he definitely is he definitely oh no he definitely is yeah yeah well that's that's funny that was a good joke what are you gonna do that's a good job it's funny but that's super [ __ ] funny and yeah i think it's okay like if we had to do it now you know we would the characters would dance around the usage of the word and it would be just as funny yeah and you know so those are the adjustments you make but like the characters would would be like not wanting to say the r word but that was the intent and you could make a joke out of that but yeah or we would have you know a character amongst the group who was like that's not please don't use that word you know what i mean like there would be an opposing view right i mean i think you can still like you know we have to still be able to tackle these kinds of subjects and and everything but uh you know again i think we're a little bit more conscious of making sure that it's clear that we the filmmakers are not like biased but what's also interesting what's so damn funny is the other storyline you know with everything from starting a band to the spandex to the day man song like and do you remember when we cut it together where we were like well we dropped the ball on this one and just it doesn't why do we feel that way well i can't remember why we thought that way as opposed to the one we just watched uh two ago the gang sells out uh which i feel like totally holds up i feel like this one even just narratively is so silly whereas the gang sells out is silly in the way that sonny is but you understand everything and why it's happening and it all makes sense this is clearly us in the writers room being like you know what let's just justify them getting into a band it makes no sense at all that we that my motivation for max motivation for example is we don't need to learn how to play instruments at all let's just get up here and look cool and get a crowd in right here and like i kind of buy that but it's also just [ __ ] oh i don't know that that didn't that didn't hit my [ __ ] mater you know how like something's doing so i i'm like that sort of fell within the arrogance of the characters for me where i'm like oh they're just cocky enough and dumb enough to think that they can do it like i think a lot of people see any kind of per like whether it's acting or music or you know juggling stand-up whatever the heck and think yeah i could do that if i just tried and it's like yeah but you have to try for 30 years you know because like you're you're going up and so i think to me it falls within the way these characters might think which is to be like yeah i can make a band like how good do you have to be that scene where charlie has got the um blanket over his head he's clearly been huffing uh paint the entire and you come over to his house i remember that shooting that scene it was the first first shot of season three that's correct i remember it so vividly and i remember me laughing hysterically i remember nobody else laughing which is all like in the crew which is always a great sign because for whatever reason i i don't know why sometimes there are things that are very specific to what we're trying to do and and out of context but a lot of the crew doesn't read the scripts so out of context it's just like what is happening you have no idea what's happening and it was so funny to me at the time yeah i remember you know so rob rozelle and scott martyr wrote that episode and they came up with those lyrics for the song and it was day man fighter of the night man champion of the sun master of karate and friendship for everyone and you're like what the [ __ ] like that's so [ __ ] funny and random yeah and we had a little casio keyboard in the office that you know you could put on the setting that it fills in the chords you know so i just like like pressed that one key was like buh buh buh buh buh buh buh yeah and then i just started singing the melody and you started seeing the aas and that there was that is exactly what happened like we were like let's let's [ __ ] let's see what we can figure out or whatever and you were like tinkering with the keyboard yeah and then you just started kind of singing the thing and then i did the ah and i also isn't that from the queen song well yeah so flash gordon it was yeah at the time um i was so my buddy sam whitwer who's a musician um wanted to do some live performances from an album that he his self-published album that he'd put out and um you know so me and some other people were like we put like a band together and we were just like we i don't know we only did like maybe eight shows or something we were called the crash tones and what the thing that we opened every show with was the flash gordon theme song the queen queen's flash gordon theme song from the 1980 flash gordon and um it was like inspired by that for sure like it felt it felt like dayman was like you know like a superhero so it kind of felt like it it tracked in that or like it i don't know it made sense it's funny how music can be like something's working something clicks right away and grabs you and it's catchy and then you find one other little element to add to it like the oz and it puts it over the top and it makes the whole thing work like uh did you see the documentary on the back backup singers yeah the woman who for the rolling stones yeah um 10 feet from stardom or something like that yeah and they call her like four in the morning and and they're like it's like can you come in can you sing these lines and she's like oh okay rape it's just the shadow and you're like well there's that song yeah you know like it just yeah and then in fact in that song her voice cracks at one point and she thought well there's no way they're gonna use that like let me do it let me do it again where i i do it right and phil spector was like nope that's the one that goes in it's amazing yeah just recorded 20 minutes yeah the creative process is a crazy mysterious elusive thing [Music] 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manscape.com and say hello to your new sweet d you being bob dylan and singing those lyrics yeah which that okay so as and maybe i'm maybe i'm misremembering if if i am please please correct me the whole idea of the night man creeping into your house coming inside you and you becoming him not only were you making all of those lyrics up at the time but just the concept of that happening that was not done in the writer's room that happened live there was a camera pointed at you and you were just riffing yeah but so not only was that really funny and incredible to come up with in the moment like that but then we took the lore that you created and made a whole musical musical about it yeah yeah no that was i remember we just kind of cameras roll and i had the keyboard it was like no you just missed it what you specifically requested you were like let's do let me just do a couple we just just let the cameras roll and let me do my thing and let's just see what happens let's just see what happens and one of those takes was that yeah i remember that was like first time adam scalina our cameraman who we've had since season one was like laughing shaking i had the background out of the frame yeah you guys yeah you i remember we had to cut around your laughter because it was really dumb and really funny it's so stupid but it's so funny but so funny and the way that you were you were free-flowing and rhyming it all the way through was there was no way you had thought about that no before you stepped up on that stage i don't i don't know had you i don't sharing each other like loving brothers no no no no no i don't think so that shot of danny of frank at the end which like just ends the scene so funny yeah that look on his face yeah yeah i don't know that was a ton of fun i mean that was one of the like what a great thing we were getting to do right like we we made the show and we sort of were finding our feet and then we would create these scenarios for ourselves to be like okay here's a scenario here's a funny situation we know this is going to be lyrics gone wrong and go free and and to allow ourselves the freedom for each one of our characters or performers to go on the show to be like all right well just i don't know turn your brain off and let it rip and we've gotten so much good stuff out of doing that oh yeah just letting it rip yeah no yeah well people ask us still all the time like how much of the show is improv and it's not really improv as much as it is like a lot of ad-libbing and stuff but there are certainly moments of improv and it's one of the benefit like you know for people who are not in the film and television business they may not realize like most things i mean like if you're doing a play you're doing tennessee williams you don't change those words like they're yeah they're they're perfect and they are the way they are and they're sacred in a way and so you know you say them exactly as written uh tv and film there's usually a little bit more leeway depending on the writer and the director right like if it's quentin tarantino he's probably like no say it the way i wrote it yeah he's right there the cohen brothers are aaron sorkin brothers right who who just they're like pretty word perfect right you got to be pretty word perfect with those guys although it's hard to believe that jeff bridge's performance in big lebowski there weren't some moments where he wasn't riffing i heard him talk about it and they're like no it's all all scripted out to the um and the uh that's just that just shows you how incredible the cohen brothers are and how incredible jeff bridges was that it sounds is that it sounds like you know ad libyan improvise but john goodman i mean and yeah that movie is so like unreal like where he's about to blow up and then he catches himself like many times yeah yeah yeah um but like it's one of the privileges of getting to do this show is that because we write it and we are the creators we don't have to you know usually with another show like i would go out of respect for the writer or the or the show runner i would go and i would say hey i'm thinking of like messing with this a little bit like can we do one where i just kind of like riff a little bit you know and i would do that on ap bio all the time and we eventually got to the point where mike would just kind of let me you know do my thing sometimes but what's happy bio that's a show that i did on nbc for two years and then on peacock for two years four years yeah we did four seasons sounds cool depending on the movie depending on the style of comedy sometimes you can just open it up and sometimes you can't for our show it really worked well to act it in a similar style to how we shoot it right in the cullen brothers it's very structured shots you know almost um a hitchcock-esque in terms of like these are very stylized the camera's not well earlier movies the camera's moving around a bunch but um with us it's cross-covered things are dirty they're shot over the shoulder the characters seem connected it's loose and you want the comedy to be spontaneous and loose and it creates a really good illusion of reality you kind of really believe these are real people this is how they talk and that you're sitting in the room with them yeah right where where um this show on apple that we do called mythic quest mythic quest yeah it's a challenge you're saying mister with a lisp mr mister mr west [Laughter] cinematic shots every once in a while and what you realize is people ad-libbing or improving in those shots doesn't work for a number of reasons and sometimes it's subconscious where you you can kind of feel that they're making it up like the shot's clean but the dialogue's messy and it doesn't work but when we go to say steadicam or what we do on sunny which is handheld and kind of rocky and shaky then it feels like oh i'm a fly on the wall i'm not watching a cinematic piece i'm sitting in the room with those people and then it works i don't know i don't know if it's a conscious thing or a subconscious thing well i do know that i do know that when we first created sunny one of the things that we were pretty adamant about was cross covering right i mean it was very inspired by by the the british office and by curb your enthusiasm i was convinced that i was like on curb i mean they're improvising they've got to be shooting five cameras at the same time i still don't to this day really know how they shoot it but you know so that was always the idea from the beginning it was like okay this is gonna be scripted but i just i want it to feel like the actors don't even know what they're gonna say next i wanted i just wanted it to feel really spontaneous i wanted to feel improvised even if it wasn't um and you know hence the the cross coverage and the bad eye lines and the shitty cameras and you know but uh the benefit of that was that we got to you know do something a little different i mean you know some people say that the show is just us yelling over each other and they're not totally not totally wrong i first seen the opening scene anytime in the early years when you had all five of us in a room at the same time we're just talking over each other filling in each other's lines filling in the gaps there's no silence no no no god we got better at that god forbid yeah but but the see i think i think so the scene uh between the two of you when you find the song that was clearly covered by at least two cameras or or maybe three because there's there's like kismet that happens where you find the clap you you were you get into the beat and then you find the clap at the exact right time yeah which was and i remember being so satisfying at the time satisfying in the edit and then now it's been 15 12 13 years since i've seen it again it's still satisfying it all feels very it all feels weirdly real i mean clearly it isn't because it's so heightened and so strange you know although i i bet most people would think that that song that you made up on the spot was was was also not not improvised but it was which is just crazy i also think going back to the improv thing for one second like you know we we never improv like i think improv the idea of improv is like an audience full of people and someone says uh here's the situation peanut butter jelly and taxes and then they go up on stage and they create a situation about peanut butter and jelly in taxes like that's never what we're doing we ha we not only do we know the scene we know what our characters want within the scene yeah we have it perfectly scripted to the point where there's no improv necessary by perfectly i mean like in our minds you know that this is good enough we don't want to be in a situation where we have to improv and even if i'm doing a song like that i'm sure i've i have a few ideas going into the scene about what's going to be funny yeah it's not so incredibly spontaneous i mean not to take away from some good improv but like it's just some touch points though it's structured improv it's like i don't know it's like we really have a sense of what we want and then we open it up and say what's the funniest way to get what we want but again think about what a privilege it is to to to do that and and i know that like i mean it's time to do it because we shot in a way that's so fast and furious you know you haven't had a two-hour lighting set up because you have a crazy dolly move you know like like here's the cameras go can you talk about that so well on on horrible bosses say for instance right where clearly you guys were riffing and having fun and all that kind of stuff and it's a very different shooting environment where you probably weren't cross covering a lot maybe occasionally i don't know i mean but when you've got like i i don't i mean again with my my peacock show my very successful four season peacock show ap bio you know we would shoot one side at a time uh it's okay i'll i'll send you the i'll send you a link ap bio that's such a weird advanced horrible bosses i know i mean that was a huge hit thanks man that was a big hit yeah the second one by today's standards the money was right though um no i enjoyed the second one hey man anyway um uh you know where you're shooting one side at a time yeah and then you you know you're shooting one side of a conversation yeah and you're riffing you're improvising right and then you've got to stop yeah turn everything around which takes 20 to 30 minutes to turn all the lights around come back on the other guy then you've hope you hope you've got a really good script coordinator because then you got to do it on the other side where it's much tougher to do it that way yeah i think with horrible bosses if i remember correctly we did a lot of three shots you know and two shots where all three of us were in the frame yes or it would be like you know we're getting interrogated by a police officer the police officer says the same thing every time but you guys open up our end a little bit so um i think they did a good job of of where to let let us dirty up the dialogue and where to keep it clean but yeah it's much tougher because i've done a movie the first feature movie i got to do was going the distance and that was my first time on a set where uh when we were doing that where we would improvatan you know me and sedakis and justin long and then we would have to remember what we did to turn around to try to yeah cause we don't do that on sunday no we just shoot it all at once and and and if we improvise something you know we'll we'll usually build on it or do something different the next time but either way you know if you and i are improvising something we're both on camera at the same time so when you get in the edit you get to cut together a scene with all the actors in it yeah you don't you're not you know what i mean you're not like trying to piece together as i mean we do piece things together but you you don't have to do it as much on our show on on mr quest um mr mr mr quest do you yeah how are you balancing that when you when because obviously you're shooting it much more like a movie uh and here's a complete uh this is an admission that i have nothing to do with it i've said it before um uh you have every i we've established this every time you've created the characters that launched them then i walked away and then you guys have been doing it um but uh how are you balancing that uh sort of like i'm sure you're letting horns be riff and cut loose so then when he comes up with something great and you've shot one side or you have your uh script coordinator writing down the improvs and we do but because um because david has so much experience i have so much experience we all in this room have so much experience you kind of remember what works and what doesn't but sometimes we'll say okay remember to get this we do we do have certain scenes that we realize we have to cross cover because the improv is important and then we have actually we have other actors too who aren't as necessarily comfortable and it doesn't mean they're not great it's just not they're fantastic on the show they just they just would rather stick to the script yeah and if you throw out something they're happy to say it but they're it's not their first instinct to do so here's an interesting thing how do online comments affect you guys personally uh i love i i look i think i have no problem like i'm not one of those people who's like no i don't know i don't ever read reviews of stuff that i do you know some some actors like you i can't read that stuff it's too toxic or whatever uh whether it's good or bad um i i'm not that way i it's like i weirdly want the feedback i like the feedback now look if someone if someone said something got on your skin to sit with you for a few days or like no no no no it'll it will sit with uh it could sit with me for a couple minutes but then it's gone you know now i will admit however if if after we did an episode after an episode of sunny aired or whatever and i if i went on twitter and the vast majority of the comments were negative sure that that's gonna mess up that would [ __ ] with me that would [ __ ] with me but you know most of them are really good and then there's the occasional you know something like man your show has not been good since season six you know you're just like thanks for the feedback man yeah yeah what about you rob you seem unfazed by these kind of things um no i think i'm actively unphased meaning like i'm doing well it's a practice it's a practice yeah yeah i would say yeah yeah it never feels good to have somebody criticize you in some way but i think you just look at who it is that's doing so so if you were to come in and say hey i don't think what you're doing is good i would listen to that because i value your opinion uh but if it's just some sorry i meant both of you but i was looking at you you look directly at me i was using subconsciously ignored it he asked the question he asked the question okay all right but both of you guys this is what we do all the time if you came to me and said hey we either see this creatively or your behavior or whatever it might be or we have a professional issue with you which we've navigated over the years uh then i take that very seriously because i value your opinions um but if i look on twitter and it's just some rando [ __ ] who wants to chime in i don't get flying [ __ ] yeah but mostly because i just simply don't i don't know who they are yeah so i don't value their opinion right and then if in terms of criticism the only time i get because i do read reviews for new things that come out i haven't read a sunny review in forever but but i but i do read reviews say for mr quest and uh the only time which are all very good the the only time i get upset is when i feel that they're lazy that they're that they're not understanding what it is we're trying to do because they they're stupid and lazy and sometimes we'll get criticism where i bring it to megan and dave and i say i think they're right but this is somebody who's taking the time to actually look and try to understand what we're doing they have an opinion about it and then regardless of what their opinion might be if if they point out that oh i believe the show was going for this and they failed and here's why and they're right from my perspective i'll bring it to them and say hey i think we can be that's valuable well any any feedback that allows you to make something better is is is valuable yeah um and that's different from trolling which is just very different yeah very different um uh you know i i've often been frustrated we've talked about this you know off camera many times but uh by reviews of sunny even positive reviews of sunny where they talk about the show in a way that makes it sound unappealing to people who might be turned you know they're like they're like man these guys are so funny and they they cross the line and it's so gross and they're disgusting and you know they're perverts and all this kind of stuff and it's like if you don't know the show and you're reading that review mm-hmm you're gonna go totally this is not my time somebody just sent me an article yesterday that we were on a top ten list of i there were two shows that i am a part of that were on a top ten best office comedies of all time sunny was one of them and mythiques was one of them this is said of all time the mythicquest piece started like this we're like number five in the list mythic quest isn't for everyone yeah that was the first thing to start it's god damn it yeah and i'm like wait wait and this is just a review it's a positive review yeah but you're saying it's almost like you're hedging yeah like the person that wrote it is saying i believe that this is a great show but you might not and i want to make sure that i have a healthy distance by saying yeah well it's not for everybody i warned you i warned you now here's my opinion [ __ ] off it's like the comments and the reviews if they hit something that you have a personal insecurity about ah then it stings right like i think for me if it's like something about my voice or whatever or like your looks or whatever like that's that [ __ ] you're like ah [ __ ] ouch why did i read that you know um the other side of it is like [ __ ] you is what i sound like and i'm aging what do you want you know like but it's hard to like build that up when it's about the work yeah that i don't know it all sucks [ __ ] everybody you heard that you heard it here folks [ __ ] everybody we'd like you to know that today's episode is brought to you by helix sleep ah helix sleep makes some of the absolute best most comfortable mattresses out there and they come to you right in a box and i know what you're thinking how good can a matrix out of a box be a pretty freaking good okay well listen guys sleep is very 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one best overall mattress of 2021 from gq oh yeah gq said that okay and wired magazine and the mattress many leading chiropractors and doctors of sleep medicine use as their go-to we're talking about a super fantastic mattress situation who's not gonna want that yeah to what degree can you say the wrong thing now like to what degree yeah i think it depends on probably who you are and what that thing is but and what you said and what your intention was what your intention was hopefully that does matter sometimes it doesn't matter in the immediate and the immediacy reaction to something but then right you can walk up and smack someone in the face and yell at them but if you do it at the oscars yeah it's gonna you're gonna have some blowbacks if you do it at the after party probably probably gonna be fine he should have waited till the after parties what you're saying of course i think the audience recognizes what we're doing who we are and what we're doing yeah in terms of the television show i don't think we've done or said anything here today no i think in this day and age more than ever you know you're you have a lot more coming at you and a lot more to sort of dance around and think about but to some extent you also have to just kind of press on yeah you know yeah i i worry for our kids like growing up in a social media world like like i like yeah you know obviously our children aren't famous people but you're famous within your school right you're famous within your circle like you're you know mikey of of the three mikes in fourth grade or whatever like and you know the group of kids like tweeting or anything goes around mikey [ __ ] his pants and it and then it gets like posted and it goes around like these how did how are people navigating it well probably in the same way i mean at least the way we're navigating it would be this in a similar way just on a larger scale but it's the same thing which is creating an armor essentially that that is impenetrable but not not able to yeah but i don't want to walk through my life with an impenetrable armor okay like that's like some crazy [ __ ] well that i don't mean it from like a like a sociopathic way um because you know like sociopaths walk around and they have an impenetrable armor that you can't actually get to them because they don't feel anything i mean more about your own value meaning that you have a sense of self and who you are and what your value is to yourself and how much you love yourself and there's nothing that can penetrate that now that's active work that's not something you just feel it's something you're constantly reminding yourself of and i think that's fair and i think from there you can allow people in into your heart through that armor if you so if you so choose to but if they try to come at you and you don't want them that's what the armor is for i think yeah look i mean i i think it comes from your parents but for the most part it comes from you know having parental support i i really do believe i mean i know that's what it is for me you know any time i've ever you know come up against um sort of like you're not good at this or you can't do this thing you know i i personally believe that you know my parents belief in me and their unconditional love um but ultimately don't you believe that what that created in you is not a need for parental love because oftentimes that's what can happen right where if you're still looking for external validation which we all are to a certain extent but but it will hit a wall where it you can't you can no longer look look to that you have to look inside that's right right and but but because you have that and you felt safe at an early age yeah you started to create that that self worth yeah that you take well it's almost like you you ultimately you can go out into the world and be brave and make mistakes and screw up and not do things right much more easily if you know that there's a place where you can go back to if you had to where you are loved and accepted for who you are yes um if you don't have that love and acceptance anywhere um i think it's extraordinarily difficult because it's hard to go out into the world and take risks without i feel that about you guys i feel that way about this show so i feel so confident about going out and doing whatever it is that i do mister quest or a movie or another tv show or a business whatever it might be what movie because i know [Laughter] you're gonna move out of space when has he ever done a movie i i haven't and i don't plan to in the future but the point is that if i were to be frustrating to me i wouldn't be afraid i'm not i'm not as afraid to fail because i know i have a home that i can come back to and that you guys love me unconditionally but you put me in check right there's boundaries and there's discipline to our relationship but at the end of the day i know you love me i know you value me and because of that i can go out and do other things and if they fail i go [ __ ] it i got my guys yeah no you're right i feel that way too i absolutely feel there's a there's a great film called um oh [ __ ] i think it's called the great beauty it's an italian movie uh i think he won best form film a few years ago uh oh you told me about this yeah uh i never saw it uh a spoiler here this is a spoiler so plug your ears if you plan to watch italian films uh which i think most of our fans aren't but there's this old like nun character and uh she looks like 170. i mean i don't know it's probably makeup but she looks very old she's only got a couple teeth and she's always like eating roots and uh there's some you know some character says oh she always eats roots and then at the end of the movie the guy says to the nun he's like you know it's like sister why are you always eating roots and she turns and she looks at him and she goes i don't speak italian but so they're like you know because roots are important uh and it's a really powerful moment of the film where you're like oh yeah [ __ ] if you're not rooted in something then yeah then all the comments and all the all the noise all the [ __ ] noise the [ __ ] mower outside whatever it is it all comes at you you need to be grounded and rooted in something which i also appreciate that i feel like i've gotten from you guys and this this show you know where it doesn't come from where eating root vegetables fruits they're nasty that's a yeah um almost out of coffee and uh i'm sure that everyone is out of patience so yeah why don't we wrap this up we talked heavy [Music] you

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Published: Mon May 02 2022