31. Mac is a Serial Killer | The Always Sunny Podcast

lid we're back everybody's always sunny in philadelphia i guess it's just glenn and charlie charlie how you doing bud i'm doing pretty good glad i'm doing pretty good we're not together in the studio and unfortunately we can't be together in the studio due to a major license pinworm outbreak thanks to rob mcelhenny uh he's at home he's getting cleaned up and hosed down uh but we've got worms coming out of every inside outside there's worms everywhere unfortunately we can't be around him um but uh that's only the good news is that it should be completely cleared out of his system within a good eight to ten weeks so uh you know you can only anticipate maybe 10 15 of these zooms to be safe and then hopefully uh the worms have eaten the lice and then we can attack the worms and uh and clear it all up we need we need like uh worms that kill other worms you know what i mean like you just send in like an army of worms to take out the uh yeah the other worms you know is that a thing they yeah they got those camera head worms but what if they turn into ghost worms and ghost lice and then we get a deal yeah that's a whole thing oh my god think of all the all the bugs that we've killed and all the ghosts of bugs that are out there you know if and if you were the type of person who could see you know that type of thing like the like what is it like not a paranormal but like a psychic i guess boy i thought about that the other day because you know we we had the argument about ghosts and why you don't see a warm ghost of a worm and then you know as my mind tends to do then later i have a counter argument with myself um and uh and started questioning well maybe of worms see ghost worms and uh you know and humans only see but if you're a worm you might see the ghost of a worm you know so it could be you know you're tapped into you know whatever you're tapped because the worm doesn't even see us do they i don't know what a worm sees worms blind i think i think a worm is flying anyways we're back on the sunny podcast and talking about worms again [Music] okay uh mac is a serial killer um i loved this episode i did too i did too yeah i loved it i've always loved it and i love it now i want to say something on the record like i've enjoyed all these episodes i know sometimes maybe the fans hear us being analytical and they're they might mistake that for a dislike of the episode i think that's us just trying to understand where we were how we got to where we got to and um you know where we are today so we can make the episodes as best as we can but um the more as they go along i like the more and more the character dynamics i mean we really and we're building out the world in this one in a great way with the with the moms and uh and mac's dad and cricket this is the first time we did the lawyer gag i think it's so great and it's very funny it's great yeah no it's it's terrific and i and i also love how you you kind of slip into the uh you kind of slip into the whole shelly the machine levine uh thing again whenever you put on the short sleeve button-down shirt and the and the tie you be you sort of become jack lemon and glengarry glenn ross yeah he likes to play adult uh right right um i mean i what i love that just the interview of mac's mom like interrogating her oh man that's so good yeah no i i absolutely love this episode i thought it was great i love the lawyer stuff is so funny to me um just you thinking that you've watched enough episodes of law and order that you think you understand you like you know the sort of the key phrases and terms and you feel like you could get in there and actually defend someone and you know with that knowledge and uh it's um yeah i don't i don't know it's just it's so stupid but it's it's it's so funny it's a it's like a shtick but it's a fun shtick uh my favorite is the scene where you're talking to mac and you're like i gotta get in there and dun dun dun dun dun dun dun you just start doing it yeah start singing the law and order theme song it's so funny it's kind of funny trying on did you ever wear dracar noir was that do you have any good cologne from your youth that you used oh well oh yeah absolutely i had it i had um i really liked that uh calvin klein obsession sure um yeah yeah that was that was my first cologne no i think i smelled like right guard or something yeah yeah secret okay just just the jacquard warren reference is just so funny to me because it was it's like a it's a very specific thing right it's it's to like the average person it it's like it feels like a very expensive very fancy cologne and yet you know it's like in every department store and it was like one of the most you know ubiquitous colognes out there but uh but to characters like our characters we're like whoa like that's just kids do that like catch on and become sort of just funny like like body acts or whatever like things that are like targeted for men and taken very seriously that seem very not serious and are fun to make fun of glenn you as um the uh to catch a predator guy oh so funny yeah chris that's so young and attractive is she mac are you here to see a young attractive woman or sandy a young attractive blonde and then d comes out with a camera you must be very disappointed i loved it especially you had so many good um runs at dee's expense this episode the whole thing about like he'd spend all day cutting you up he'd never get the job done he'd get the job done is this the episode that we came up with calling dear bird well because okay sir larry bird we've talked about this a little bit um we did call her big bird in season two uh when she's when she when she had on the basketball suit yeah when she had the basketball suit on where were we yeah the pantsuit we um we refer to her as uh as big bird and i think that was the first time we referred to her as a bird and then i think this was the one that set it off where it was like calling her a bird became like a thing but yeah i i agree meg i i think some of that i don't think um that stuff was really scripted i remember on the day we when we were shooting that um we just kept building and building and building and just like at take after take it was different every single time and and it's kind of amazing how many people have i cut up how many people have i murdered how could be yeah like but like i remember i i remember i mean it's it's it's pretty great actually how it feels scripted in the sense that it's so tight the back and forth is so tight but i'm i'm almost certain it was not it was not scripted um and i love how caitlyn's jumping in there it's so it's also so funny to me that she is so concerned with being with fitting she's more con she would rather fit the profile um of a serial killer's victim than uh you know not be considered a young attractive blonde like she would rather think of herself as someone who's in danger of being murdered by serial killer than to have us think that she's not a young attractive blonde like that is so that's so [ __ ] funny to me man even just you in the bushes with a big puffy coat is funny just the fact that you had like the puffiest coat we'd never see you wear a coat like that before or after but you got it for that scene which is great yeah it's great that was a really funny back and forth with pepper jack just how quickly he asks her about who she's with and how quickly he like assumes her so by the time you get out of the bushes she's already his best hoe and uh he's not like it's just such a funny fact he was great and and when we went back to him this season to have him back it must have been so bizarre for him yeah no you're right to to come in and do one scene as a character on a show and then 14 years later be called back to play that same character i mean i remember he was he was so it was so great to see him because he was so excited to come back and he was you know uh excited to step back into those shoes and he i remember i asked him i was like did you have to like watch the episode like a few times to remember the mannerisms and the the way that he spoke and all that kind of stuff and he he studied all that and uh yeah it was a pleasure having him back such a sweet dude do you guys remember the origins of this episode did it come out of like a law and order thing like that you were or don't remember but this is one of the first episodes and we don't do too many episodes like this but there's a certain style of comedy right which is mistaken information where one character thinks they're talking about one thing the other character thinks the character is talking about something completely different and the joke is basically coming from that you know it's almost like a sort of like a neil simon-esque technique or whatever it feels not dated but it feels like a more old school in a way you know yeah it's it's very it's very very typical of a of a farce which you know we tend to be a little bit more satirical and less farcical but um that's what it is yeah i i i think it's great when we slip into that i i i think it's um you know if if done well you know it's like you you make a choice like that you just kind of lean into it and you don't question it too much and you just kind of go with it um you know characters talking at cross purposes one person thinks that they're saying one thing and the other person thinks they're saying something totally different and uh i you know i i kind of love that even though and you know even though we've talked about like how we don't uh well i guess rob's talked about how he doesn't like it when we're spoofing um things um we do spoof to catch a predator which is a ancient show um now um but i just i love it i i think this episode is very clever like uh we we met we pack a lot of [ __ ] into this there's a lot packed into this episode it's pretty it's pretty jam-packed with uh with good stuff i like how the scene is shot of you chasing after mary elizabeth uh with caitlyn and if my memory serves me correctly actually matt shackman shot that scene it was i think it was jerry levine's episode but i think because we were in philly and jerry couldn't come to philly matt picked up that i think you mentioned that yeah back on the streets yeah i think you're right yeah i think he shot the philly stuff because we uh jerry wasn't able to come to to philly for some reason um and that's one of the first times where we we have you actually like considering possibly killing someone that is so funny and like i mean be like wait is this too far for the character and nothing would seem to be too far like the further we could get we would just chase down those roads for everybody yeah that's what we were learning right uh in this in this season as we were as we've talked about many times in the podcast like how we were pushing things in this season to see how far we could go um and you know this was one of those things where it was like well what if what if he really does start fantasizing about killing this this this woman killing the waitress and uh it's your disappointment when you have to when you realize wait you're not actually going to do that that's so funny like oh yeah yeah forget forgetting that we're not actually killing her that we're just we're just we're just going through all the steps that lead up to the killing and then be yeah and being and having to switch gears okay yes right right okay yeah right we're not yeah no of course back to the real world then there's some disappointment in that yeah and still not being able to totally let it go being like you know just being like it'd be better if we could if i could actually uh you know but yeah no you're right yeah the hands of going out to strangle her but no you're right you're right no we're not gonna yeah uh [Laughter] um i also i love the twist i love i love the uh i don't think you see the gary thing coming at all i don't think you see that coming at all it just comes off like a you know a schlub that uh that sweetie is taking advantage of and um you know i i also love that we put the question to him about the gardening sheers of like do you do you think this would cut through bone and his answer the way he answers it the way i think you interpret it as the audience the first time you're seeing it is is like uh i i guess like why would someone ask me that right is the subtext of that when really his subtext is like oh i have to be careful how i answer this because i know the answer to this yeah yeah or like yeah do they know something about me and how do they know it right yes yeah yeah yeah but you're but by the way jumping jumping to the end uh like your reaction you know your your joy at having won the case and then going to get a beer and then i remember when we were shooting that like it was one of those things where like i i don't know if we i don't maybe maybe when we were because we always you know when we do our three-man rewrite of every episode we're always acting this stuff out and i do think that i do i i think that i knew you were gonna do something like that and getting to watch you actually do it in the episode was such a joy like that that the whole like uh you know their heads it's it's a it's uh yeah there might be a beer back there but i'm not gonna go looking for it yeah i think um i i think when we dr i don't know if you remember this but but uh when we got there on the day to shoot that and they filled that fridge with heads it was all it was all like male heads there was like maybe one woman and it was all dudes and i was like there's something wrong where they they looked terrible were they not covered in frost we frosted them up right so uh i do i'm not sure about that um i do remember however that that it was it should have just been a a fridge full of heads of young girls right because we had established that it was young blonde women yeah right but instead it was like a it was a variety pack of of well those are the ones that they found right right you know yeah those are the those are the ones that people were concerned when they were missing [Laughter] he popped off a few sort of drifters as well and that's a good explanation yeah i mean i do think that's actually the case when when things like that happen which is like you know i think those people sort of test their skills first on people that will you know won't draw attention and then why am i laughing i don't know i don't want to know i've always thought that the reason he was killing blonde women was because he couldn't have d and there was some reason like because he clearly has really infatuated with her did you guys mean that that like he actually was killing blonde women because he was obsessed with her pictured anyone really wanting to that's sort of part of the lore of the shows it is really it is really it is very it is very difficult yes yeah it is very fun to like uh oh oh oh hey hey man oh no way wow i'm so sorry so much thank you so much i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry how is she jumping inside is it though but seriously how itchy is it we've already informed the audience that it was you know it was worse and the pinworms and uh i'm so sorry this is terrible all joking aside i'm so sorry your your time is my time is not more valuable than yours we agreed to this time i [ __ ] it up i'm late i did my best as you can see i'm like sweating um i'm schizing but i i'm so sorry to you i'm so sorry to megan i'm so sorry to the audience i [ __ ] it up well also you're you're mike is not no it's not i literally just turned this on and was like okay how quickly can i get into this okay so we'll just scrap that for yeah don't let's not even bother don't even bother to set it up we'll do it yeah don't worry about it man just leave it it's not gonna work we'll do it later nope your mic's off i'm going to leave all this in the cut it's just me apologizing for me [ __ ] up i'll just leave it it's fine we can hear it yeah but it's not coming through that mic so it's fine but just move it out of the way and we'll just we'll just take it through the audio that next time baby you're gonna have plenty of chances it's okay hey okay rob yes yes calm down calm down take a deep breath take a deep breath take a deep breath grab a pee pee grab a piece of ice or something rub it all over your face and your body and just we'll get it there you go you get nice right now look at my face look at my nose is getting red again and i haven't had any alcohol so now i think we're realizing that when i overheat my nose just gets i don't know either that or you're drinking now during the day oh what is that are you sure you're not drinking vodka the bummer of it is is that well i feel like we've been going over so many great highlights of this episode did you get a chance to watch it i did and i loved it i it's okay it's a good idea it's a good it's really it's good right what we haven't gotten into in this episode is mac and and how good mac is in this episode and you know you do a gear in this episode that you do in max banging dennis's mom where you have this secret that you don't want anyone to know and you you play it really funny you have this thing where you like sort of repeat people's sentences when they speak to you it's like you like they'll be like hey mac how you doing you're like how you doing like some kind of thing that you do that's really funny i don't know but i think you do it in these two episodes and then we never did it again but it's it's a good way to go back to it we should we should get you hiding something yeah it's also it's also funny like i mean again you know we're always talking about the characters just complete and total obliviousness but one of my favorite lines ever of yours is in this episode when you're talking to um carmen and uh you know she's saying why i feel like you don't want to be seen with me and you're like no i don't mind being seen with you i just you know uh whatever but like i but the line is that that's the just one of my favorite lines of yours ever is um i'm not i'm not ashamed of you i'm ashamed of myself yes and that's supposed to be which i do feel better it's a good example right it's just a great example of of saying something that you think is like you think you're saying some you think you're saying like no you're you're you're you're i'm not ashamed of you yeah i'm ashamed of myself you're great you're great it's just that i'm ashamed of being with you yes yes yeah which is just uh again that's us was leaning all the way into it as far as we could yeah always making a joke about the these pieces of [ __ ] yeah yeah see i really like the moment where you bring the wine coolers and then she's like did you bring the condoms and you're like not really into the whole condom thing not really into the whole condom thing yeah i there's so there's so many great moments in this episode where characters are are do we're doing the thing that we do talk about where we're on the same page overall but undercutting each other along the way and disagreeing on the details you know um you know just just through the whole episode you know what i mean just like um you know like was this the first episode we see mac's bedroom because of the the joke where when frank walks in where he goes like what's the what's the decor in here what's the vibe in here what's he going for that cell yeah and and that that's actually um you know the the more astute um creep will pick up on the fact that um that does not look like mac's bedroom because it wasn't it was actually dennis's bedroom that was but we had that year for whatever reason we didn't build your bedroom we just thought like oh we'll just redress dennis's bedroom and make it look like mac's bedroom so the orientation of that room where the door doesn't make it where the bed is it doesn't track with with what we've said your room looks like now um i don't know why we didn't then build your room to look like that that would have made more sense i think it was like a stage space thing or whatever but uh yeah yeah it's always money it always comes down to money we didn't have the money to do it right basically it's both money and experience on our part right to say like someone's cutting corners on our behalf but like the three of us didn't know to say hey let's not cut that particular corner go ahead and cut some other corner but that one matters to us you know yeah and that just comes with experience yeah did you guys notice have you i don't know if you talked about this already um the that there's music there's ambient music that's playing in the background of the scene in the in the hardware store that we're essentially saying is playing in the background is actually playing in the store that would be source and it is now score that we use as transitional music and actually we use it quite often yeah that was the first that was the first time we'd ever used that song was it was as source music um for the listener or creep out there who doesn't know that i think you'd explained it but yeah source when you put source music in that means you're putting music in that's actually playing that's actually supposed to be in the in in the scene with the characters coming from a car radio a speaker at a restaurant as opposed to scoring iphone which as opposed to score which the characters don't hear because that's yeah score but um i didn't no i didn't i didn't notice that i don't even know what is it no it's faster paced in fact we should probably play that clip right now [Music] [Applause] uh gang we want you to know that this podcast is sponsored by better help online therapy if you're not familiar with betterhelp it's an online therapy service that offers video phone and even live chat sessions with licensed therapists all around the world how it works is you answer questions and better help 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your eyeballs but listeners that's h-e-l-p not better health go to better help betterhelp.com sunny for 10 off your first month of therapy [Music] [Applause] oh that okay so so we had never used that as score before uh we found it used it as source and then we were like oh that's that's good let's uh let's start using it as score or maybe we had and we just didn't care i don't know we were like oh maybe it can be both oh i wouldn't put it past us to have used at a score and then just used it as source because it was the only thing that fit that we liked and we didn't want to spend a bunch of time um yeah more money what about pepper jack we talked about he didn't make it but we haven't gone into in-depth into it yeah he's amazing this is the first this is the first mention of larry bird you've already talked about that we have yes is the first met yeah the second mention though of of dee being a bird first being uh called a big bird in the basketball episode but then this one first time we called her larry bird and then and then i think it that's where it took right then then she became then we just started calling her bird after that right yeah i don't remember such a weird delay there's a weird delay in and i don't know if it's if it's because we're waiting for each other to speak or if there's actually just a delay but i i'm like there's like a full second after somebody speaks to where somebody else speaks and it's really [ __ ] up the rhythm is anybody else feeling that or am i just coming in and [ __ ] up a rhythm that you guys created and it was working i know i won't say we were like on fire that we had to think about it though that was just okay okay okay i was thinking uh uh i was gonna i was gonna pause for a full three seconds and i was really hoping that you would do the same thing just like fake freezing well there was like an 18 minute delay in you showing up rob yeah i don't know it was a 18 minute drink i felt that yeah um we sure felt that and then we've repeated some things here so that's part of it like an echo i'm sorry i don't know megan didn't you have some didn't you have some questions for us did you want to prompt us on anything or did have some questions for you one is um have you ever dated anyone that you kept from your like friends and family like didn't want anyone to know about yeah you have you have well i mean not since i've been married she said like it's the most lascivious thing ever um but what was this were you hiding the details what were you ashamed of i was thinking it was a shame well i it was it was weird to me you know this was something that came i think a little bit later in my dating life uh where if i was dating somebody but it wasn't like my girlfriend and it was like serious i kept i kind of kept it separate from the rest of my life because it felt weird you're like you guys always had those friends right who who were just you were just like every single time you hung out with them they were like dating a new person and you're like oh look okay and they're like yeah this is uh so-and-so and you're like oh like okay you're i thought what happened to what happened you know i'm dating this person now you know and you're just like okay do you have to introduce me to every [ __ ] that you date like really seriously you're gonna [ __ ] bring like always bringing like like it brings an energy to like a get-together or a party that like kind of can throw [ __ ] off if it's like if you don't know for sure that that person's gonna click with your group of friends or whatever but like you know i don't know so i i kept it separate actually sadly keep it separated manny got us well i i i kept the fact that i was dating my spouse um she was not my spouse at the time but i was dating my co-star from you guys so maybe that would count yeah that counts sure that's a big yeah it's idiotic yeah that's great it's crazy that i didn't see it it's [ __ ] crazy because she used to she would she would she would we'd be in our apartment and she would be like i'm just going to go to sleep on the you know we had we built that big like that big mattress platform thing that we could watch movies on and [ __ ] she'd just like pass out on that and then i'd wake up the next morning and uh you know she was there and i was just like yeah we were counting on the fact that you're always just doing your own thing yeah you were just focused on what you were doing and we were like glenn's not going to notice [ __ ] trust me and you're all good you were totally right i i did not go to school right yeah uh that's one yeah i don't feel like you needed to keep secret but no i i understand but actually for the same reason that glenn but that glenn brought up which is that if it didn't work out and that i think we were even mature enough at the time to recognize like look if this doesn't work out we don't want it to ruin the dynamic of the tv show because the tv show's working and we can keep it professional and personal sort of separate so if we brought you into it and it and then it kind of fell apart it would might just be weird and i think that was a huge part of it too yeah totally uh i don't think i ever kept a relationship secret they were hard to get um so if i got one you know everybody knew and then i've been in one for i don't know 55 60 years now good long stretch so does anybody keep anything to themselves anymore because it feels as though no i don't want to be the old man uh out here in the podcast space bitching about the the next generation because it's not the next generation it's everybody it's everybody of our generation it's every our parents generation below everybody is just they're not holding anything back at any point everybody needs to be expressing themselves at all times and they need to feel heard at all times and it doesn't matter if if maybe it's something so private that you could just maybe navigate that yourself you don't need to bring that out into the world uh and be heard at all times i know that oftentimes i'm a a real piece of [ __ ] and if i express myself and i'm in those moods i it's publicly i immediately maybe the four or five times i've done it i'm like oh that was so stupid that's not me that's not representative of who i am do you feel that way doesn't represent me um but because i felt the need to tell everybody everything in this exact moment and i have access to everybody at every moment i [ __ ] it up i definitely don't uh tend to over share in that way uh probably for the same reasons that you're you know you don't it's that it seems weird to me i mean and it's not you know i have no problem sharing things and being very authentic and honest about what's going on i mean i think we've we've hit moments like that often on this podcast where you know we get very we stop down and we get very real and we're not making jokes and [ __ ] and we're just you know talking about real stuff but um but yeah i don't feel the need to share every aspect of my life with uh with everyone and and you know to be clear it wasn't that i ever kept a relationship a secret i never i never like purposely was like ooh i can't let anyone know it was just i kept them sep it was more like i kept them separate i kept those things separate it was like i had my group of friends and then i had someone that i was dating and you know and i think that's totally fair to be like i don't know about this person yet and i'm sure i want to like cross that bridge of bringing them into my friends which you probably prioritized at that time in your life and it's you know look i'm deeply uncomfortable sharing stuff i rarely like post anything on the internet i'm not on twitter uh i don't know why i guess i could kind of do some work on that but uh but i don't think i i know why it's because you're you're you're a private person and i think that's very normal to be a private person and and and also like it does color you know if too much of your life is out there uh for everyone to know about and see you know it colors their perception of you every time you play a character i mean i know for me i agree with that look i think also glenn you and i i know specifically got into this because we had a love for acting and we had a love for a very certain style of acting which i don't know if it exists anymore but like you know we were idolizing those sort of 70s you know iconic actors that some are methods some weren't method but that the acting was the most paramount thing in their life and you didn't know much about them personally so that every time they appeared on screen you were like oh man i'm going to get to see fill in the blank what daniel day lewis you know which you know kind of nothing about but you want to go see him in the theater or joaquin phoenix or somebody um i don't like this that line has blurred so much you know between uh being a celebrity and being a uh like a personality you know like we kind of we we touched on this a little bit last time we were talking about the whole like paris hilton thing and i was you know jokingly half jokingly saying that i find that whole thing disgusting but uh but like i i just have i've always been very uncomfortable with the idea of being famous now i would like to draw a distinction between you know just being sort of a celebrity in general and being someone for whom your work means something to them right so like i i i absolutely love it when somebody who's a big fan of sunny or anything that i've done comes up and it's like hey man i really like your work that feels good to me i'm like this person enjoyed my work that's what i wanted to that's what i always wanted to put out into the world i never wanted to be a personality i never wanted to be like a celebrity or whatever i just i just you know wanted to do good work and you know i when that's appreciated it's great but like you know to be famous for i don't know like whatever people get famous for these days that that's not well there is the other point with fame where it it really can become like um you know you look at like pete davidson who i like so much i've i've worked with him and and that's great man he's funny he's a great great guy and i think he's super funny and talented you start dating kim kardashian and all the eyes of the world are on you and you're in a different level of fame and how does that affect people when you show up in a movie hard to say you know but in terms of like in terms of like sunny fans coming up to us it's great like i love people knowing the show and i like when people come up to me and say that they like the show and i kind of want to go back to something i said two episodes ago where megan you were asking about us about memes and i made a joke that it was meaningless to me or whatever the truth is i love it like when i read memes i [ __ ] laugh my ass off because they're all hilarious i love that anytime someone wants to refer to someone is insane they put up a picture of me in front of their corkboard like that's like one of the best things that's ever happened to me in my life yeah any conspiracy theory is is like is often the meme is often you from that episode yeah yeah but i also don't want to just constantly be on the internet telling people what i'm eating for breakfast and uh and i and i'm really grateful that we don't get like chased around by paparazzi which you know we all know people who are like that and it's it's tough on their on them you know that's a crazy life i would really struggle with that i can tell you that right now it it it's it's terrifying to me it's this weird thing where like but you also recognize that celebrity has it has value in helping you to get the kind of gigs that you want as an actor right so if you mean something to people if you are a celebrity if you're big enough celebrity and you have a big enough following or like fan base or whatever uh you're more likely to get those big roles that you want the moment in time that you're you're referring to charlie which was yes the 70s and 80s but it was really like a hundred years of popular culture um that we were at the tail end of where you were making connections with characters in movies and or television shows and you were identifying with them and you were making those connections and they were bringing you a different perspective of life they were bringing you joy they were bringing you sadness they were bringing you of the full range of human experience and you had a connection to those characters and i think what's happening now or has been happening for the last 15 20 years and very acutely now is that i think people's connections to characters has changed in so far as we we are now for example giving access to people in a way that that we hadn't in the past we've only done it through the work but this would be an example of the podcast itself where we're giving access to people in a way that we haven't done before it's actually us and you i think that's this huge part of why social media is such a huge uh such a huge part of our culture now is because people are getting past that artifice and they're having now a connection with you as you are now whether or not we're willing to give that to them is the that's the scary line right but but i think it's still the same in so far as it's people seeking to identify with another human being a character or a real person but someone who brings a little bit more light to their life yeah i think then it boils down to like what what do you want personally in terms of like what do you want to give not like what are you capable of giving but like what what do you want to give like um i'm finding this to be a good experience just because of connecting with you guys and i'm glad that it's reaching an audience and connecting them too um the thing that turns me on the most just as a person is making so let me use a hoity-toity word but making a piece of art right like uh making an episode of the show making a movie like really kind of creating and making a thing which is not me in my life but that's pretty much all i care about like that's just my passion in life that's what that's what excites me that's what i feel like gives me meaning and purpose uh so it's interesting trying to but it's a balance right because i also know okay if i go do that if i go do whatever horrible bosses or i want you back there's an expectation from the studio that i also sell the movie by selling myself right so like go on a talk show go be you you know like go on a show where you eat increasingly hot hot sauce which i think when i went on i remember being kind of in a grumpy mood being like wait where am i what am i doing and then of course i'm doing what the [ __ ] happened i know and now it's like one of my favorite things pacino never did a hot sauce show but kind of yeah kind of yeah it's just whatever your art whatever your artistic line is right i mean like the line okay so as a fan of glenn as a fan of glenn i recognize i can see in his camera that he's staying in a hotel room there's a part of me that wants to know how many times today or since you got to the hotel room have you masturbated i want to know now i want to know that as your friend i want to know that as a fan of yours because i find it fun i'm picturing you landing and being like i haven't been away from my family in like a year and a half i'm going to lock this door and i'm going to beat my dick like it owes me money and i'm going to do it for like a like a solid three hours yeah i like to drink a couple i'm going to strip at least three or four layers of skin off this thing yeah you know what i mean like there's gonna be people banging on his hotel wall being like are you okay in there is everything okay i hear a lot of screaming are you okay there's so much screaming voices is it how many people are in there it's just one yeah it's just one i'm an actor don't worry about it it's fine i i play all the characters i'm getting into character it's like an eddie murphy thing every time i masturbate all right just just getting my character leave me alone don't talk right now not now don't talk to me now um so i i can understand the the desire from a person out there in the world like i wouldn't i think that would be amazing if i'm listening to uh smartlist and i and and and jason were to go check himself into a hotel room and he started would start talking about that i would find it absolutely fascinating and probably hilarious but there's also a weird connection because anybody that's alone or have been alone or away from people for the first time in a long time knows exactly what that feeling is like but we don't talk about it a lot in public because it's either base or private or whatever i get that too and i also understand why you wouldn't want to tweet that out to the world but yet i still want to be out here yeah sure i mean that's why you built a whole separate little house for yourself right so that you could just have it right that's yeah you're calling me why you were so sweaty and 18 minutes late it's right yes look this was not for sweat oh no oh but the listener at home is holding up a darkness oh i thought it was a raccoon all right i think megan almost threw up yeah there's been look look i spend a lot of time down here i'm a human being yeah of course from time to time i find the time for myself you have needs and a high speed internet connection and that leads to another and [Laughter] somebody brought to my attention and i don't want to uh i don't want to kick horses while they're down but the johnny depp and amber heard thing like apparently in their trial somebody had pooped in the bed and the and they were talking about like who pooped to bed and sonny fans were delighted by this fact yeah of course like it is a strange it is a strange reaction to something to be like i'm gonna [ __ ] in bed oh [ __ ] in the [ __ ] bed i'm going to [ __ ] the bed how do you like me now i [ __ ] the best oh wait wait was it done on purpose oh i have not been reading i've not been reading someone just told me about this and i'm like yeah oh i think it was eventually yeah if it's a high stress uh ex excretion um then it's going to come out in a blast it's going to come out wet and it's going to come out fast yeah poop with the tea again i feel like i'm boring i'm not only boring sexually i'm boring with like my revenge schemes that would never occur to me what i'm going to go i'm going to have you been doing a lot of revenge i mean i dabble in it i dabble in it but not to the not to that extent yeah yeah i i i you know with the ola and i an eye for an eye you know makes the whole world blind thing you know what i mean very sweetly and casually saying charlie he very earnestly i'm not big on revenge which is very smash yeah just kind of believe that i don't dabble in revenge i was just making a crack i i'm trying to think if if i i think there are consequences meaning like there i think there are natural consequences to treating me a certain way but i wouldn't call that that's not revenge but here's what here's what freaks me out about revenge i'm too scared that the person will then take it another step even further exactly you know what i mean that it's like oh someone did something to you and then you're like okay great i'm gonna poop in a box and mail to them and then they're like gonna poop in a box for the rest of my life mailed to me i'm like no way i don't know you get into that with the wrong person and boy yeah some people are better at revenge than others for sure yeah and they'll they'll just keep going yeah yeah i think my issue with revenge is that i once i can get zero to a ten very quickly as we all can to a certain extent but i then i'm in the moment i can see me doing something irrational but but 15 minutes later 20 minutes later i feel like i can come calm down and then the idea of some level of retribution for whatever happened would not occur to me i don't think meg you spent a lot of time with me have you noticed that my um that you've been revengeful no you're so like good at confrontation in the moment that i don't ever see you like waiting for later to like like you would just say it you know outright like i always say that my favorite part about working well with any of you guys in the in the writer's room is that i've worked for some showrunners that i can tell like i pitched something that they don't like and they do this like whole song and dance of like letting me down gently by like oh yeah that's interesting let's consider that idea but you guys are great because you'll just be like nah that's not it and then just move on and i kind of appreciate that because like the the there's something patronizing about like needing to let me down gently as opposed to just like being confrontational be like no that's not it because there's an assumption there that i'll come up with a better idea if you just tell me you don't like that one so i i prefer that which is like just throw out the parts like i remember pitching um the gang replaces d with a monkey to you guys and like the first time that i was pitching it like i think there was a whole different story and then the monkey was just like a very small part of it you guys were like well we like the monkey but like basically get rid of the rest of it yeah and then i was like and that was and as i recall that was coming on the heels of of another conversation about something else where we were talking about something being too broad yeah and we were like we don't want to tip into too broad and then we left to go do something else we came back you pitched us to sorry and you very reticently were like okay and there's a a point at which we possibly replaced d with a monkey and and you were like like just waiting for the like that's [ __ ] crazy but instead we were like well now hang on a second what if the whole thing was the monkey you know i mean just like yeah in this season there is sort of a joyful like silliness to some of the stuff that we might not approach anymore which season three yeah which i'm finding works better than i thought where i'm like oh this is whatever we're just we're interrogating mac's mom and with the headphones and the mic chainsaw thing that you want frank to take your picture with the chainsaw and yeah like tongue things yeah yeah the the little bow you put on your mom's head or whatever we'd probably still do that but that's just so [ __ ] fun but that's that's communication we've we've had that form of communication since the beginning and i think that that that really is born out of respect you're creating a room full of people and everybody the assumption is everybody deserves to be there because they've earned earned it and now if there's an idea that comes up that that that isn't good enough it's not like you're taking someone's whole self of self-worth and saying no you're you're not only are you wrong but you're incapable it's more just like no the idea didn't work but you're not identifying the idea with your ego you're just saying no great that didn't work move on um so yeah it's like born out of respect and i think that was something we've always done isn't it like i would never in the beginning we would never like have someone pitch us something like that's so stupid you idiot you know like that's no but we also like we wouldn't like put on kid gloves and be like that's a really good idea let's think about we'd be like nah that doesn't that doesn't feel right what else and then just keep going yeah yeah yeah keep going and we do that to each other constantly yeah let's say danny line yeah something like that but not that [Music] were you guys into true crime stuff at all like did you do you ever cause this episode's all about like kind of like true crime type serial killer stuff do you guys ever get into that i'm into that to a certain extent but but i definitely know that's more of a female thing like i all the women in my life are super into that like 20 20 and dateline and stories of women being dismembered and murdered for some reason appeal to i don't know is that you think you're getting tricks as to how you're going to evade the killer but i also noticed that caitlyn even the ones where it's like killer women i'm like oh i get this i understand chick she was physically or emotionally abused and she took she took revenge and poisoned her husband and killed him and caitlyn's like nah i don't care for that which ones are the ones you want to watch and she's like i don't know like like the woman's been gone for 20 years and what happened to her we don't know that's so [ __ ] up what is that right i think i think it's because like at least i watched them and it's like it's both yes like you pick up it's like things you're afraid of so then you watch it and you're like okay well like note never do this thing but also i like feeling superior to the victims because there's always a moment where i'm like well i wouldn't have done that and therefore i wouldn't have died that way so i i have like a [ __ ] cut that cut that cut that wait a second don't cut that don't cut that megan gan blame superior to victims she's she's learning she's learning well you're learning you're learning you're like oh yeah yeah yeah i wonder no i get that from a primal like i get that primally which is like it's all survival of the fittest and you're saying oh i don't want to be murdered i would never have made that mistake therefore i'm safe i wouldn't be murdered yes yeah that's right i get that i like the detective aspect of it like like like if you listen to serial you've got to kind of play detective right you get you started to like get all the suspect but then i always hit a moment where i'm like oh man this is somebody's real life like somebody's somebody's dead and somebody's like kid is dead like what the [ __ ] you know like this is not my we we made a joke about this later in the season where we said like murder is the new like like chips right this is not just chips for me to snack on this is like somebody's [ __ ] life it's awful but also also but it's compelling right because we're terrible well tell your story faster tell it faster [Laughter] you shouldn't you know what i mean like cereal was one of those things where i was like oh my god this is like absolutely fascinating fascinating for about three episodes and then i'm like all right get to it [ __ ] wrap this [ __ ] up you [ __ ] jerks it was the same way with uh uh you know uh making a murderer or whatever it was like you know they stretched out i just have [ __ ] i can't stand it when people tell me a a [ __ ] two-hour long story in 10 hours i'm like just god [ __ ] drives me crazy man so now if i see like a true crime series or whatever like a thing that's like oh it's gonna the story's gonna unfold over uh uh even four episodes if it takes you four episodes even that's too much for me i'm like i'll do two i'll do two two one hour episodes that that's how much [ __ ] time you've got to tell me this story otherwise i'm out i'm out because because unlike the victim you have a life to live you know you've got stuff oh my god damn maggot jesus christ um i uh why are you talking about masturbating for like so long but i whatever yeah no it doesn't there's that usually in the patriarchy in the patriarchy we talk about masturbation in the matriarchy you guys are conceiving very rich webs of revenge and i i this is terrifying i mean listeners creeps and listeners be afraid of the matriarchy because like all we want to do is just like talk about like our dicks and masturbation like women are out there i wonder what percentage of our audience just masturbates to the podcast you know there's probably like like one one person right at least should we give somebody should we give them something should we should we take our shirts off no like yeah like no it's like you know every time you say like the letter s or p or like you you're you know that kind of weird [ __ ] what maybe yeah i don't know it's okay there's got to be one one person out there right with with a kink in the background david hornsby once shared a video that somebody sent to him of i think two guys having sex and in the background was a good girls episode that he was in um just like wait a second wait a second wait a second how did he get this video i don't know but he sent it to me like a while ago it was so funny because like the guys were like really going at it you didn't ask him how he got how he found this video like it was like homemade porn that someone put on the internet and he was in the back yeah yeah it was great i don't know how he yeah i should ask him how he got it um we've discussed my erotic tales for on this podcast before right we did right we covered that not on the podcast no you guys know that you know this story right yeah well yeah i mean it's been a very long time since since we've talked about it i was one of my first uh so i i had an agent like a real agent and they were sending me on things i remember i auditioned for like wet hot american summer and like got a couple callbacks and and i think i was in the same casting office and they had an another audition it was a short film short movie it was called angela and it was starring victor argo or whatever um and basically my role was just there were two guys sitting in a bar having a conversation about sex like they had hooked up with some girl and victor argo's overhearing their conversation and he's sort of depressed about being past his sexual prime and by the way i don't even have the bulk of the dialogue i think i'm just the guy be like uh-huh oh wow man like that's like my part and i remember and the director's name was like amos colic or something like that uh israeli director i think and um i get the part and i go down the set we're filming it shot on film and uh boy this guy is up my ass like tons of notes like he's just hating my performance i'm like man i'm just sitting here going uh-huh yeah i can't make this guy happy uh but it's whatever i shoot the couple hours they let me go never hear about it movie kind of disappears and then like a year or two or maybe even longer it might be like five years later it shows up on my imdb as erotic tales force summer of my deflowering and and so i guess it was like kind of like soft coreish porn like not porn but like like uh cinemax you didn't get the whole script they didn't give you an answer no i just got the scene but it's no longer on there apparently i was cut out of the movie i think some some uh super fan had found the dvd and looked it up and uh and my scene would no longer exist i would like to see that which i have mixed feelings about on the one hand i'm relieved and on the other hand i also would like to see the scene yeah right right of course glenn how many times have you masturbated i i i'm not i'm not going to uh know how many times he's not going to dignify that question i'm not going to dignify i got in last night oh so it's it's between one and three relax relax um guys i gotta pee uh can we end this [ __ ] thing jesus christ you guys have done it we have to have done it we did it uh well rob thanks for joining us

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Length: 57min 25sec (3445 seconds)

Published: Mon May 09 2022