21. Takedown Tent Stove DIY Build and Test.

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so I just got back from Home Depot and I thought I would do a little bit of a revision on my portable homemade DIY tent or Shepherds stove and a couple of things I experienced my last time out we did an overnighter with this stove is that it worked very well but one thing is and one of my viewers notable why do you make it portable or collapsible and so I thought well you know what that's that's a pretty good idea this this stove here I used ribbons and I just kind of put together quickly and snapped it together to make sure the concept work but to have the ability to take this thing apart break it down put it in your pack or in a bag I thought would be kind of cool so so I'm gonna go ahead and do that now rather than just drill this one apart it's functioning I thought well you know I'm just gonna leave it that works pretty good let's just go buy some new pieces and maybe put together a bit of a DIY video on how I actually built this thing and I got some ideas too to build it a little bit better and and more efficient and a little bit easier than the way I built the current version so I just thought I would show you guys this and actually and what this thing cost or how little it cost well so these are the panels that I bought these are called end caps for furnace ducting and and that's basically what they what they look like and they're they're pre bent so essentially all we got to do this is put them together drill some holes put in some hardware and and we got our stove basically good to go so so that's essentially what we're gonna what we're gonna do put it together for sites like that so the stove that I got that are that are already built was done with 12 inch long end caps and this particular stove I thought I'm gonna give this a try with fourteens and although that's gonna be a little bit bigger I think one advantage to a little bit longer firebox or actually a couple advantages is that as you can see in this particular stove right here essentially you've got this much distance here I'm just going to guess at about eight inches between where the the pipe goes up and the front of the stove so when I open this up I get a little bit of back drive and I'd get some smoke out the front so I thought if I made the firebox just a little bit longer essentially two inches longer that would give me a little longer firebox and I wouldn't get the same kind of smoking when I opened the door up but allow me to build the fire a little bit further into the stove away from the door so so I'm gonna give that a trial this one worked pretty well yeah I did get a little bit smoking out the front in this case for whatever reason at my home depot the 12 inch or the 14 inch long panels are cheaper than the 12 so in this case it was a little bit cheaper these panels here right off my receipt here 14 inch end cap $3.77 on these ones so I bought four of those and then for the ends about some 8 inches and those were a little bit cheaper but I think they're little bit too short to actually use for a stove but they're fine for an end cap we'll cut them down I'll show you how we're going to do that those ones were three dollars in twenty four cents and what else we got we got a little bit strapping so four for this stove here for the feet down at the bottom right there and actually you can see in this one I made it a collapsible they do actually it did stand up pretty well but that's what the strapping looked like and I think those ones were 16 inches 18 inches so 1 by 18 inch they call it an anchor strap and those guys were a dollar 67 so rather than trying to have to cut something these are already pre-cut and have some goals drilled in at the end but we'll we'll just drill those out for the size of hardware that we're gonna use to make this stove so yeah those go to the pieces and in this stove I'm gonna try this aluminum ducting this piece of 3-inch collapsible aluminum duct was 895 as opposed to the the regular solid ducting which worked quite well but I thought if I I take this along it'd be a little bit lighter I think it's gonna be durable enough to to hold the heat and we'll do a little test on that so so all in all still need a little bit of hardware to put this together but the total bill for this was 37 dollars Canadian so that's probably less than 30 dollars u.s. so so that's what we're gonna do I'll try and take some video as we go along and hope it all makes sense alright so we're gonna get going on this stove here first off total disclaimer I'm not a sheetmetal worker just showing you how I put this together and hopefully it'll give you some ideas on how you can build one of these and you know the ultimate goal is to be able to get out into the backcountry take your stove along with you make a fire it's a way to keep warm spending some nights out there without having to build a big bonfire and use a whole quart of wood just to stay stay warm so anyway let's just jump right into this so once again these are 14-inch endcaps I'm just gonna mark roughly seven inches in this case I'm gonna put one screw in each side rather than two in each side I'm just gonna do one in the middle and when we put this whole thing together by the time we put the ends on it it's gonna be sturdy and stable enough that I think it's going to work just fine so essentially gonna put enough Hardware on it so that it stays together and that we can get it apart quickly so 14 inches I'm just gonna mark seven inches down the one side and and drill a hole there I look for my punch and I want to see I can't find it so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna take a nail I've got a two by six set up there and in roughly half way I'm just gonna go punch a hole in there and that's gonna basically be a pilot hole and then we're gonna take this this other cap I'm gonna hold these two together and you'll see and I don't know if you can see it properly or not but the two ends it's either gonna have to fit on that side or or that side so just pick a side and be consistent I'm gonna choose so that this side goes inside of that one eye you know and I could probably probably even notch those out but we're not going to worry about it work work just fine on the last one so making sure those two sides are kind of as tight as you can get them once again just taking my nail I'm punching a pilot hole there so in this case here I'm going to use quarter-inch hardware it's going to be overkill for what we're doing but I've just got a ton of it around so rather than spend money on on something else yeah I'm gonna use what I've got so just lining those two those two pilot holes up very poor [Music] yeah there we go so we got our quarter-inch hole drilled there and I'm gonna do the same to the other side here just making a note of again which way I have had these two sides lined up this one here is a little bit inside this one here so I'm gonna do the same same for the other side so I'm just gonna grab another piece here a little more figured out before I started my video button interface so once again that one or this one here is on the outside so when we put this one together we'll make sure it's on the outside it's on the outside but still tight make sure this piece here is tucked right into that one there if that makes any sense should have marked this out before I started but just approximate if you want to get really crazy you'd go right to the millimeter but in this case I think this is gonna be close enough once again just punching a pilot hole there all right so we got two done so we're gonna just flip it over since I put this one on the the inside you're crying okay I'm talking about here so so this one here is on the inside of this one so we want this one basically our sides to be symmetrical so this one here we're also gonna put on the inside I don't know if you can see that so that top and bottom we're putting it together the same way and once again we'll get our ends lined up so that this one is inside this one and it could be inside or outside as long as there as long as you're consistent with the top and the bottom these are 7 inches roughly so we know the middle is get your pilot hole the quarter-inch hole and we're good okay we're back here and what I've done is I've just kind of fit this together I've thrown some hardware on there it's definitely probably oversized longer than what we need but just kind of what I had handy here got some wing nuts on there and that's gonna be my plan is to put this together with wing nuts so we got our basic firebox four sides all that's left here now is to cut the ends one end I know is gonna be essentially just a square cut and the other one I'm gonna further what we're gonna do on a door on the door or for a door and I got a couple ideas there between a couple of takes of the video here I'll I'll figure that out and and come back to you but this first end is easy as I mentioned we got these are 8 inch by 10 inch end caps which is the smallest size that we could get now in this case I'm gonna use the two large lips there and then these ones that are double folded I'm going to cut this off ultimately this is gonna have to be 8 by 8 or roughly 8 by 8 get cut down so that it fits in the end it's gonna come in from the inside we're gonna drill a couple of holes probably that side and the top side and then that's how our end is gonna go on we're gonna have a basically one wing nut and bolt on each side and I'm thinking what not exactly sure it might be might be the outside here might be the inside I'll figure it out let you know what I've done and come back and show you all right some back here and this time rather than punching a hole pilot hole with the nail in there just I took a fairly small drill bit just marked my 4-inch and popped a pilot hole in there just a little bit hard to get on my block that's okay that that worked out fairly well I'm gonna go ahead and and just drill out the bigger quarter-inch hole here and well I had the camera off it kind of I was thinking this through a little bit and I decided to to turn this end cap so that the the large overhang pieces were on the same side as the other as the other screws so that way we're getting all of our hardware on the one side leaving that the top and bottom free to put pots on or what-have-you I don't know just kind of thought let's let's get all the screws sticking out on on the two sides rather than all all four sides so so let's very easy engage [Music] and I kind of got these nice stove bolts of the big head I don't know if they're entirely necessary and I bought a whole Shrike a wing nuts and I was putting my tarp shelter together I've got a feared if I used wing nuts wouldn't need to take any tools along basically none of this has got to be super tight that way you can just put it all together by hand my bottom eye hardware is pretty long here but abundance of quarter-inch wing nuts and bolts hold tests over here will I just use what we've got all right so you got a five out of the six sides done essentially your firebox is done let's figure out what we're gonna do for for a door here and then we'll we'll come right back okay so we're back here just move my hardware out of the way here managed to get the door cut down to eight inches and drilled some holes got my two hinges fastened on the side and once again I used the wide side here to to fasten those hinges on so a little bit more more room once again this hardware's it's quite a bit too long but it's just kind of what I got handy here to throw this thing together I will probably end up changing that out but my plan was always to leave the threaded side on the outside of the stove so once we've got our fire going in here you know we don't want to take a chance of melting these threads up seizing those wing nuts on there so my thought was to leave the head on the inside where it's not really going to get damaged or doesn't matter if it gets a little bit of fire damage and put the thread on the outside so that's why I got my hardware that way and while we were gone I recently I had some some shorter hardware in this one side same as same as that and I thought what I would do is add one more I already had the three to hold the three sides together I drilled one more hole here I put in some longer bolts and I thought I'm gonna try and use that as as a stand some some legs for this thing instead of the extra strapping that we had to stick on so that way when the hardware comes out everything lays down completely flat so we got our our door good to go there and on the other stove I only put one screw in each of these each side of the hinge and with the two hinges that seems to hold it just fine so you know if you feel like you want a little bit more on there but essentially this door just kind of you know stays shut there's nothing to latch it I don't know we might want to put a bill to latch into that so so that that goes completely shut but in a lot of cases I found it I wanted just a little bit of extra airflow here to keep this thing going alright so I managed to get my door cut down here that was the original 8 by 10 piece so I cut two inches off the end of that so now that it's eight by eight it's the right size to fit over the end of there I got my hinge is mounted on the on the door and again I used the the wide edge there so there's a good amount of meat there to mount the hinge and just drilled a hole on the side here we got our legs on the bottom there we're gonna try that longer Hardware and see how that works and I kind of had a had an afterthought and this 2-inch piece here that I that I cut off I mean I just solve the jet and straighten it out a little bit and my thinking was that I'm gonna I want to put that piece inside there I'm a little bit worried about some smoke billowing out the top of the front here when I open the door and so I'm thinking that that two inches is just gonna provide a little bit of a space for the the smoke to kind of rest up on the top there without coming right out the door when we open this thing up and after it's been damped down for a little bit so so I'm gonna take that piece since we got it anyway and we already got our hole drilled in the side here so it's gonna that's for the hinge it's gonna go right through that lip there and I may may not even have to drill one in the other side I right now I haven't got any holes there at all so I'm gonna just punch that hinge hole through into this but time we get on there or hardware on there I don't think that's gonna go anywhere so so we're gonna try that I've got the material may as well use it and then the last thing of course is we cut our three inch hole knife using four inch pipe or whatever just mark that out make sure you don't cut it too large you know why your your pipe to to fall through there so rather have it maybe a little bit small and be able to trim it or or file a little bit bigger but if you if you're too big and your pipe falls right through its gonna be a different problem that you're gonna have to solve so so that's it I think we're done for our take down Shepherd stove here for now I'm gonna put a little bit of a fire in it and see how it burns and so we'll get you that video real quick all right thanks for watching so here we are we got our takedown portable tent stove all finished got the door on there and managed to put a little bit of a catch on here what I did is this piece that we had extra I put over the front there so the smoke wouldn't billow out when the door was open and I decided to actually anchor this side with some hardware and the other side is anchored with the bolt for the hinge so that one was gonna be there anywhere anyway yeah so I just thought I put this one over here had a little bit extra sheet metal left over and just kind of did a little bit of a bend on that this part was already bent bent that the other way trim it down a little bit so that when the door is closed just rounded that corner off a little bit we can just get that kind of down over the front and that door is gonna stay nice and tight so we get our stove damp down when it's cold and and conserve some fuel and not have to get up as often to to stoke that thing up just decide by side comparison with the other stove this is the last one I did as you can see use that for three days over the backcountry and it worked very well this one had these I used the strapping for feet they're actually fold up they would fold out to the ends and reduce the profile of that a little bit as well this one was 12 inches long this one here is 14 inches long door on this one while it covered most of the front there was actually an N panel which I cut out and then the door is laid over top of that this one here had chicken wire in the bottom just to get a little bit of room underneath the wood so that it would burn a little better and I decided to do that for this one over here as well so I just cut a piece of chicken wire you know it kind of it's gonna get kind of bent up and and what-have-you but that way I thought again it's just something to keep the wood right off the bottom of the stove gonna get a little better draft it's gonna burn better maybe not burn out the bottom of the stove and this is very lightweight it's not taking up any space err or weight and the other one burned for three days it never actually burned through and gonna roll that chicken wire for just a few bucks at Home Depot or your home improvement store so I think that's an easy easy easier thing to change out than the bottom of the stove and yeah anyway so got the door on got the chicken wire in I did weigh both of these stoves the original version twelve inches long weighed in at four point two five pounds as it sits right there yeah this one here a little bit more hardware that one just had the rivets on it this one weighs in at four and a half pounds it's as it's sitting here so both very lightweight the advantage of course with this one is that it's essentially just got three screws top four on the bottom and you pop those out two wingnuts for the take the door off those ones can stay on and that one would completely collapse down into something that's almost flat whereas this one riveted together it's a little bulkier it's fine if you're putting it on a on a sled or something like that as I did but this one will actually fold down and you'd be able to put that in your pack or strap it on the outside of the pack now without having to take a sled so that's so that's that so gonna pop pop a chimney in the new one here we're gonna fire it up give it a burn test and see how it works here today on a nice sunny December nineteenth day in 2018 all right we'll come right back so we've had our stove going here for probably about 15 minutes or so and seems to be doing quite well I've built a pretty good sized fire in it and I've got a damp down at the moment here and just out of curiosity I brought my digital temperature gauge out today and the outside temperature of the stove 61 degrees there on the side right at the at the pipe itself we got two hundred and sixty degrees 270 three hundred degrees right in the back there at the front door forty 43 degrees right underneath the stove still only 20 25 degrees 30 degrees it's 23 degrees so as I mentioned before I have this stove sitting right on some pine needles and I can I think you see I can still stick my hand under there this wood decking is not warm at all and yet the stove is radiating a good amount of heat so you know if you're concerned about yes it's something flammable underneath I certainly wouldn't put it on your on your tent fabric on your on your floor or on a tarp on a poly tarp I think you'd melt that but I don't think you have to worry about any actual combustion underneath here I say I've had a pretty good fire going in here for about 15 minutes never had any issues last time out with the other stove and it was only two inches off the pine needles one thing I did notice with the stovepipe in this configuration kind of out to the side which is the way I had it out the sidewall of my tent it's definitely more susceptible to backdraft from in whichever way the wind is blowing so when I had this stove out I had a 90 degree elbow and I was able just to kind of put that opening downwind so I wouldn't get any blowback of smoke into the tent so with with a pipe in a vertical situation you get a lot more updraft and not as much of a concern but if you're going out sideways you just definitely got to be aware of which way or which direction the the wind is blowing so you don't get smoke blown back into your tent so let's just let's open this up here to have this kind of damped right down actually that's not even really hot to the touch the door might be that had a good amount of wood in there still do get a little bit of smoke out the front here so when I had it last out last time the other stove I was kind of maintained it in a either a fully damp down or a slightly door slightly ajar position like that and so I catch something like this I think works well to prop the door open just a little bit last time I ended up just putting a makeshift bolts in there to keep the door open a little bit so if you want to get just a little bit more draft you want to make sure that you can you be able to catch so that it'll it'll prop the door open a half an inch or put in some other type of vent device either a pinwheel or something like that but I was more concerned about making this airtight than than getting air in and because you can always prop the door a bit to get air in so with the door open about that much as you can see we got no smoke coming out to what would be the inside of a tent or tarp structure good amount of oxygen going so that you're getting very little smoke out the top is burning very cleanly in this kind of position so and still a really good amount of heat coming off there let's just check that again we got 300 degrees at the pipe 350 so so well less than what I thought the melting point of the rivets would be of aluminum on the other stove somewhere 800 degrees I can't remember exactly but even fully stoked up I think when I checked before I got the video of rollin again here it was still under 400 degrees so I think we're gonna call this test a success here the only way to know for sure is to get it out in the back country and give it a real test in the great outdoors so that's it for today thanks for watching I hope this gives you some ideas if you want to send me a link of what you guys come up with that would be appreciated and of course your comments of arrows are always welcome as well until next time take it easy
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Published: Wed Dec 19 2018
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