1969 John Deere 440A log skidder | will it run?

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we got some got a little bit of crack there got a little we got a little candy right there i'm gonna back up and get a good view of it here we go he said it's a 69 so uh yeah 50 51 years old that's right so we've got a 1969 model john deere 440 a cable skidder right here this thing was bought new in 1970 and the same cat that bought it new still owns it today and i've got it right here with me he's like 175 years old but he's still kicking like a chicken we're gonna see if this thing gonna crank we're gonna run we're gonna just kind of walk around in here i mean for that thing to be 51 years old still looks pretty dang good don't it she's a good one you may have to in your wheel you may have to kind of wheel this thing to me or something if you go to sell it i won't first shot at it it's what i want don't even be thinking about over junior it would do me a lot better than it would you man oh god i'd really truly say all my stuff probably only 100 feet away one heartbeat that close got one foot in another foot out another one's slipping in ain't it one heartbeat away from being sold man i'm you know i've seen pictures of it and i posted some pictures of this thing but uh as far as cosmetically it's still in very very good shape i mean oh yeah you don't see many of them like that that'll still roll you know i mean the back fenders it's not really it's it's not caved in right there or anything bad uh what all of you had done to it um major mechanically wise since you've had it years ago it started smoking just a wee little bit well of course dad said we better get it overhauled right so we took it in and had them they tore it down and god they put it back together with a lot of the parts it was still in the engine then what about five years ago i had it rebuilt what happened to it then was that before you came in a lot of blowbox yeah that was before you came here before i came here yeah i had it had it rebuilt and i ran at 17 hours and somebody doctored my engine oh yeah 17 hours so that was up there up there in ohio really this one actually has a clutch on it right right yeah so it's just like a it's going to be just like running a tractor on you've got a manual clutch on manual clutch you can disengage the winch a lot of times when it's real cold disengage it screw the pump down that helps you know you know that's an interesting fact on even on all the way up to um we bought a 648d in 1990 brand new and it still had a lever on it then on them that you could raise up to disengage the winch what that does what we're talking about y'all is is there's your winch shaft right there that runs and it runs off the engine and so when you when you crank it it's sitting there spinning all the time well if it's cold like it is today you can you can disengage that shaft and so it's not trying to pull everything to free up the engine and where it'll actually turn over faster and give it a little extra on helping it crank is what it'll do yeah now as uh i don't know what year i know the 540s back then had a little lever well i think it was over on this side somewhere you could move that lever and it would disengage the main hydraulic pump oh so you could take the pump out of the system too then to crank it uh but i have to take the grill out and screw the little valve down okay but some of them had you could do it from the cat how does the is this one locked in all the time or does it have a it's got a lot well that's a lock right there ain't it that's right okay on the on the d models then they put it they stuck it right there on a flip almost identical to that right there and that's what made john deere so impressive back in the day because you had you had in back in the day you had timber jack and you had some clarks franklin franklin's were they back in the 60s like that or were they they were okay so you had them but the thing about them was is they were locked in positive traction all the time dude you talking about tearing up some stuff trying to turn you couldn't turn on them them you had they most of those had detroit's in them 350 screaming screaming and you had to run it wide open to even make it do anything the blade even flickered man you could try to turn around right here and it would take you a dead gum three acre field to turn it around and then you would be plowing ground with it while you're trying to turn it around because with it locked in you couldn't turn it hardly but the deer had it where you could unlock it and you could turn it and boy john deere killed him on that stuff right there because we had a 550 uh timber jack you know didn't have a steering wheel and man that thing was a nightmare to run i mean it had it had a v6 detroit in it it had a clark winch on the back of it and it took a team of people what kind was it tim it was a it's a 550 timber jack is what it was yeah i believe that was it it was a dad went down to florida and bought that thing but you had to like i said it took it took a really good man or about three kids to grab hold of it to pull the cable out i mean it was bad i mean you know i've ran franklin a good little bit for some guys uh different times and i have not yet ever ran a franklin that it was hard to pull the winch cable yeah they and see when we we got rid of that timber jack and we bought a 640d or maybe it was just a straight 640 that had been repainted and everything it came from a dealer and it was a cable skidder could effortlessly grab the cable on it and just take off with it john deere has always had the winch stuff fixed i mean there there's either one or two things gonna happen with a john deere when you sit down on the winch on it either this something's fixing to move or it's going to break that cable well i rebuilt the winch on this one last year yeah that's the first time the little thrust bearing went out there yeah i remember that when you were getting like you put that thing on a lathe and milled that thing perfect in there well it i mean the the winch is john deere winches are just that's a 3305 on that yeah i mean they they don't play i mean they they pull hard you can take that cover off her he can okay uh i've always kept this scooter covered like oh look at the seat man i just bought that that's a year old now i'm going to tell a little secret about this skater tim when i bought this skater me and dad bought it together and this skitter was just a little over seven thousand dollars which i thought you know i just got back from vietnam was only 20 year old did y'all hear that 7 000 in 1970 for a brand new skitter and how are we ever going how are we going to do this but i'll never forget it the first year payment was 399 the second year's payment we was a hundred dollars less and the very last third year was 199 we paid for it in three years which but still i thought how am i ever going to do this oh yeah but it and my wife just a few years ago she bought a john deere riding lawnmower and gave 14 000. i i know i know and that's what i was going to say that it's really no different this day and time you buy something you wonder how am i going to pay for it it's no different it's the same thing man uh and here's another little story about it these john deere's if you didn't want of course i i've never been on a scooter and i didn't know and then these cables were cut into this drum i'm sure you've seen them right just over where that's right so dad's seeing it was starting to cut in and he said fair leads right there you won't this is the only skitter i've ever seen with a set of fair leads on the winch and all that does is just keep that cable from riding on the side of that drum that's all correct riding on the side of that drum just cut in that drum that's right i can see it from right here and when we got this scooter new it got water in it in the winch new well what happened from the factory around here is that that matter of fact that's that plug you gave me that's right and from the factory they didn't tighten that up and it filled up with water froze up there from that point on there's always been a cover on that winch yeah keep the water out of it yeah i mean i just it we've had very little you know so i'll point this some people's gonna ask this right here well you hear a jet airplane flying right now there's probably been two or three flying overs already we are right here up against the air force base right here i mean we're like you could you could take a leak yeah you could take a leak and hit it from right here where we're at so uh but so this is very cool i've been wanting to get by and do a video like this of this machine this is the matter of fact it's only been a couple years ago that it still had the original tires they don't build them like they used to do they used to they used to put the good ingredients in that river didn't they yeah i got i bought these two front ones here and i gave for i think about a third of what that scooter i know right isn't that ridiculous well good these back ones i stopped down at john deere one day and i asked him if he had any old used tire anything you know he said hey we just jumped the skidder and we got two brand new tires and wheels we'll sell them for 500 i said i'm gonna run up the bank i'll be right back 18 four 26s on that thing is what's on it ain't that something those those tires are quite a bit smaller than those 35 by 32s 78 inches tall that we run i've been around tim a lot here and you know and we could take this tire and put up on top of this one mm-hmm and it might be about that yeah a lot of people don't realize how big that stuff is that we run out there in the woods i mean the the the videos don't do it justice no it's crazy like a tiger toy dude that's right let's see if it's all obese the smoke off here we're gonna give her a cold crank been a while this week we got some got a little bit of crack there got a little we got a little candy right there i'm gonna back up and get a good view of it here we go oh nothing run like a deer look at that what's the horsepower on it do you remember i bet it's probably about 70 70 or 80 horsepower 68 see the 640 and the 648 d had about 110 115 horsepower so that would probably be about right because you had a 440 and then you had a 540 and you had a 640. that's what and then of course you had the 748 also we had 648 deal at the time didn't they didn't they build a 340 also or is this the last small scooter they built yeah the blades you had to buy okay i mean who would want to go in the woods i know i wouldn't either no i want a blade on it oh yeah pump don't even make no noise there you go back it up a little bit look at there haha i bet that's a pulling some gun too because uh you know what that oil problem yeah i think the brake bands got so saturated yeah we're probably going to end up ordering brake bands just slipping a little bit on the big heavy pawn yeah it is flipping pretty down it lifts the front tire oh yeah i mean you you can tell that yeah i'll drive it it's got about four gears here oh yeah ain't going nowhere so the brake still works on it then the brake still works on it doesn't it there it is and this thing's been run a lot look how much that clutch pedals wore off right there you can tell oh yeah oh oh there's no doubt there's no doubt no doubt okay i'm telling you man i love it i love it i figured that you just don't let nothing you don't let nobody ruin your souls i'm a little special right here does he lit yeah yeah that's right that is so cool man love it oh yeah right so it's got electronic kill on it too that kills the fuel and i i figured it might i was looking for a uh for a pull kill on it but i said well i'll just try turning the key and see if it does it it killed it try fire it may not fire up sometimes really yeah okay we're all right huh oh yeah what do you think nothing runs like a deer i love it and i uh you know the little button that goes on here yeah do you know the history about that oh the the button that goes on there i might have it in the truck the deer has four legs on it mm-hmm you know it shows the four legs yeah all the new deer stuff only shows three legs yeah if i'm not mystery behind yeah if i'm not mistaken there are several renditions of the the deer on the deer equipment over the years that they kind of changed and done i know there's some people who watch this who know exactly what i'm talking about and can explain it somebody said one time it was like a patent issue or something yeah different whoever and they have uh you know they have a lot of john deere has a lot of different things in place and like you're not supposed to use that emblem anywhere but they and that's with any trademark thing you know but but they don't they don't enforce it though you know because i mean it's and i mean you really don't need to be in force because i mean it's such an iconic deal you know with people and when we go back up here to the truck i'll look and see if i have that okay you can show that's right if somebody out there knows the history that i'd like to know i heard one time it had something to do with somebody in england yeah i i don't know you know well a lot of times if you still got that thing in one piece like that that's pretty good because what they would start doing was as they would start hairline crack and it was like some kind of acrylic which it probably wasn't acrylic it was something that airline crashed it started doing all the hairline cracking and it would finally just give away and start flaking out you've seen a lot of tractors that had done like that you know once i found out that it was a well kind of a what am i trying to say collectible yeah you went ahead and saved it i went ahead and took it off yeah i don't blame you i don't blame you somebody just swiped it out well i'm gonna jump off here and we'll take some pictures of it for a thumbnail and get that but man that's still a very solid machine right there i mean and like i said you can tell it ain't like it hadn't been run i mean look at the clutch pedal and then look at the brake pedal how wore in they are on them you know that if i just had all the wood this thing's drug out in 50 years oh yeah it would scare us i mean it really would and the guy said well no wonder it lasts so long he said you never run it well that's not that's bull i mean well i mean the daggum i mean you've grooved in on the shift levers up there pretty good yeah yeah you know i mean you wouldn't want to grab one of them falling out because it would break off probably with you they wore in pretty good but i can remember like on the on say the the 648s and the 640s the d series they had the power shift on them was right beside the seat so you had a clutch but it was just like a tractor you didn't have to use the clutch on you just bump right through the gears and i remember uh two of ours we wore into the uh end of the shifter like crazy we shifted it so many times you know but these were some uh these are some good good machines workhorses oh yeah yeah i mean they don't make paint like that no more either that's some of that good old lead based stuff probably sure that's that's real paint right there baby on that not color anymore yeah that's right yellow that's right they changed that a little bit as time went on so what about the trees now you hit it the second time i hit it the second time and you can see the den up there and it takes a pretty good person i think to emit oh it takes a i mean it takes a really oh yeah yeah that's right yeah that happened you know but i just had eye surgery monday then maybe i won't hit it correct it yeah that correct corrected that discrepancy in your vision on your fellow marks on your chainsaw that's right yeah oh yeah but i will tell you one thing now i make sure it's way out there god bless that's just you there well hell even though that's a 69 model even back in the day the engineers that built this stuff knew then what they needed for to take a lick like that for a for a fall on a protective structure one that hit it and done it it was a go it was a clipper on pretty good one yeah and and so that's a testament to how long they've been building these things safe like that and you know to protect the operator on it now granted of course this one don't have all the stuff that is that you know a current machine though you're pretty open on the side so i mean when you're running this thing you've got to be mindful of what's going on with saplings and stuff like that because you can get your clock clean quick on this thing your ear is trimmed oh yeah and especially if you go to looking back you ain't paying attention you catch a sapling with a back tire and it wraps it up in there with you what was real bad is when you put the chains on you got that big round chains is picking up big sticks and limbs yeah and they're beating you to death up in there as you're going out sure sure crazy well this is a uh this is a piece of history that a lot of people right here is going to like to see you know look at that i mean it's still on there yeah they don't make stickers like that no more either they don't make stickers like that no more so mr larry is still currently fooling with some wood even today at uh you 75 yet are you still 74 73 73 okay i was thinking you and i were the same a couple years apart okay so you'll be 73 yeah okay but your dad brought his 70. see 74. he'll be 75 this next year but still clipping around filling with some wood uh he cuts and messes with some firewood a little bit a little bit of wood handling it and things like that and i started out with this skater we did a lot of pulpwood back in and i run five chokers on it as the years went on the choker's got less and less yeah three yeah i got the two on there yeah i check people who have there's a lot of operators out there a lot well i would say probably somewhere in a 90 percent range of skidder operators who have probably never hooked a choker on a log you probably i guarantee and and people don't know what kind of joy that is to get out in here and pull that pull all the way to your last one and hook it yeah about that that's the story of my life and and and then hooking them and zigzagging through there and start cinching them up and then bring out all kind of trash with them then you gotta then you gotta try to get it all unknotted and unhook when you get up to the loader you know but yeah i could write a book on that i can honestly say i have done it i have pulled thousands on thousands of because this is the way we started i mean this is this is this is it i mean when we this thing was so much ahead of the crawler the dozer as the dozer was to the horse right and uh i'd like to tell on her little thing tim when we first bought this we had it at the woods probably two or three days well dad thought he was gonna give it a try mm-hmm he hooked up to a big old beach in mind this thing's up on the landing and he went to turn it well that thing cocked up the air and raised oh yeah that's about right upset yeah he got it back down on the ground and he called the company where we bought it he said you come out here you pick a skidder up you take it in you load the tires and while you've got it in there put wheel weights on it yeah i see the wheel yep lots of them don't didn't have the so that's the story of the reason why that oh this one right here is narrow as it is and the tires it's got on it would be very easy to pull this one over right here especially if you boy i bet up in there in the hills where you were at up here at cambridge i bet it you just you stayed straight up and down on them you never got sideways and pulled that winch did you if you did and then got up on the stump you could cut washers oh yeah oh yeah make the pucker factor go really high oh yeah i mean so did this one um it came with a blade on it right with the blade okay uh we got stuff the blade uh doesn't need to repair the bottom cutting edge i wouldn't be nutting up get another cutting edge put on that thing yeah that's gonna be repaired put it on there and get her fixed up yep yeah there it is well mr larry i appreciate you coming out in the cold today while we're rained out uh well you're used to this junk because you're well you're probably not used to it anymore you're probably a little bit weenie now compared since you don't been down here this long he's really spoiled oh yeah yeah oh yeah i mean it's funny though we in the deep south people a lot of people say they can't believe i had a heater on in my shooting house the other day and we had uh what is that this other day when the wind was blowing like 21 miles an hour and the the regular temperature was gonna drop to like 20. dude it's tough around here it was hard yeah we had a little snow flurries out there yeah that's right we had some ice that's some sleet that morning not a monday morning yeah it's monday morning we all were standing around shivering like a dog passing pizza oh i'm telling you man it was it was rough man and and so i tell people sometimes they you know they don't get it i mean it does get pretty cold here and it's a wet cold it's yeah it's a different yeah let me tell you now you get pretty warm in the summertime the summer time yeah it does it does it really sounds good oh it does yeah we good this is kind of weird to lay all this stuff out and look at it here that i've got now i've been in the merchandise business since 2017 and here's what i got all these are guilty insurance right here very high quality you wash them and wash and wash them the logo will not come off it's actually embedded into the threads right there but this this is the orange right here and all of them have the this is the back the front have a logo on the on on the right side on the left side on the like where your pocket where your left pocket would be right there a smaller logo but this is the back you got the orange fluorescent orange you can use it to for deer hunting too you know for your orange and then we got the blue right here same thing all of the same we got pink we got the red and we got a green right there and then we've got a tan and then here's the cats that's a solid back that's a pacific style cap right there so who makes that one that's specific and then these other ones are all richardson trucker style the number 112 turper style caps we got uh black and charcoal charcoal and orange charcoal and white right there and then we throw a beanie into the mix it's a richardson beanie that's what it is right there getting got a top three on it and then we throw in the stickers we got a seven inch and we got a five inch and we have a two inch like a hard hat or a coffee cup to style sticker these are from sticker mule very high quality vinyl none of my stuff is junk and trust me on that and then we've got a koozie and i got some other stuff listed on the website too but i mean it's kind of weird when i lay it all out right here and i look at it and i think yeah i've got all this stuff now you know that uh is in there so if you're in need of this i go ahead and get an order in um you know we're running up toward christmas and go ahead and get it in and me and jewel will get it on the way to you so hope y'all enjoyed the video today with uh mr larry a very cool time with him and doing all that i appreciate him allowing me to come out and film that uh film this scooter right there too i also got the hoodies got the orange got the zippered and just pull over style hoodies there you know orange ain't got long there's long sleeve shirts over i keep standing here long enough i'll keep thinking more so appreciate all y'all watching we'll catch y'all later later taters so all that stuff can be found at the cottontop3.com there's a clickable link right down below see ya
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Channel: cotontop3
Views: 67,252
Rating: 4.938396 out of 5
Keywords: Logging, Logger, Cotontop3, New, Log loader, Forestry, John deere, Tigercat, Peterbilt, Waratah, Old machine, Old iron, Antique, Heavy equipment, Mississippi, Story time
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Length: 34min 34sec (2074 seconds)
Published: Sat Dec 05 2020
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