10 Most HATED Characters In Warhammer | Warhammer 40K Lore

Warhammer 40,000 is full to the brim with characters that audiences love and adore for what they do for how they're written even just for the situations they find themselves in over and over again it's chocked full of amazing characters that people can really latch on to these are not them I hate you Patrick I hate you more I hate you no matter what yeah well I'd hate you even if I didn't hate you I'd hate you even if that made sense I'd hate you even if you you were me that's how much I hate you now when getting into hated characters there's mostly going to be those who are hated by the community but some who are generally speaking hated in Canon like an example of that is Horus lupra a lot of people like him as an antagonist and as a driving force in the Horus heresy but I can't discount him because even 10,000 years later people hate and despise Horus despite not knowing who he is his true nature or why he did what he did in fact he's basically morphed into being a Satan likee character seen by followers of the Imperial cult as effectively like a force of evil in the universe that needed to be banished and before we get in let me just first ask you to subscribe if you have not already done so it really does mean a lot to me and we are nearing the 1-year anniversary of this channel let's see how far we can get before November 24th because that is the big date and if you have already subscribed thank you so much it really means a lot to me now I know I just said we're going to say that before we get into it but again let's say this before we get into it let's really analyze what makes people hate a character and in my mind it can be distilled into three distinct things of course with a few exceptions what truly makes people despise a character on a deep level is incompetence and poor power scaling because when a character is incompetent and generally tends to blunder things around them either by ignorance or by incapability people will grow frustrated with them very quickly and I don't necessarily mean in a physical sense because in Warhammer everyone is very physically Adept and terrifyingly strong what I mean is when you screw up through lack of judgment you know characters who make a wrong call because their ideals were too clouded or they were stuck in a rigid belief system that they wouldn't compromise and it ended up costing people dearly people find that frustrating and it just makes them despise the character audiences can recognize an honest to God attempt but seeing someone who could do something but screw up just because of their own pigheadedness is really grading and just leaves an awful taste in people's mouths now the next one is poor power scaling that being when people see a character pull off a wind that's so miraculous and so insane that they need to suspend their disbelief and say now wait a minute that seems like way too much in fact anything that will really cause the audience to come out of the immersion and question what they're reading destroy the suspension of disbelief is going to incite a lot of ir because it's just narrative breaking and often times they need to sort of work around this character to explain why they don't just win the entire setting themselves again it's something audiences hate but that's enough for now we really ought to get into it I'm sorry for the delay so starting this list I'm going to kick it off with a strong one number 10 is leandros yeah you know leandros that really big ultramarine from the game Space Marine who ratted out his Commander Captain Titus for being quote unquote possibly tainted now there are so many memes about this guy and I've even seen people make [ __ ] soy jaacks of this character so that's kind of a death Mill for any fictional character honestly but the hate comes from the fact that he's basically just a thumper of the Codex aaries and everything wrong with The ultramarines in terms of the fandom so people just really [ __ ] despise this guy and speaking of [ __ ] Space Marines number nine is Artemis the Death Watch Space Marine who is responsible for effectively maybe dooming the Galaxy a little bit now not everybody knows about this character but everyone who knows him really [ __ ] hates him because when eldrad oan and some of his THS were conducting a ritual to summon yid the eldari god of death who was supposedly going to defeat slanesh he interrupted the ritual and eldrad Ulan surprisingly pleaded with him stating hey just let us complete this ritual and then you can kill every single one of us we will sit here and let you do it if you just let us complete the ritual and he said no screw you basically stating that he would rather have the Galaxy fall under the sway of chaos than under the sway of zenos now that sounds a little bit questionable to say from an inquisition standpoint especially considering the Inquisition tolerates xenos to a degree but chaos not at all and it should be noted that it stated in the lore that oh this ritual would have caused the astronomicon to Flicker and would have resulted in the deaths of millions or even billions of humans as they all would have been lost to the warp he couldn't have known that though so you can't really give him that to his credit and that's why people hate this character especially anyone who's an lar fan [ __ ] hates this character but you know what I honestly find that pretty hilarious the fact that this guy was so racist he just said [ __ ] it I'm taking the whole galaxy with me and decided to basically Doom all of sentient life just through sheer force of racism next up on the list is era the quote unquote mother of the primarchs now let's knock this out of the way we all know the real mother of the primarchs is malador the sigite honestly someone needs to draw malador wearing a shirt that says like I'm not the Stepmom I'm the mom that stepped up or one of those now the reason people hate era is for a few reasons one she was the genetic template that the emperor helped use in order to create the prim Mars he needed another Perpetual specifically one who trusted him however when she realized what he had planned for them she's the one who jettisoned them all into space now despite her questionable reasoning for doing so this does technically mean that everything that happened in the setting was her fault you can see what I mean in my video talking about the Primark H worlds and I'm sorry I forgot about the Mind parasites with Prospero sorry I got lot of [ __ ] for that but you can see how the planets the traitors landed on affected everything especially with regard to Horus mortarion angron and lorgar because none of them would have turned out the way they did were it not for the planets they landed on so yeah technically the Horus heresy is her fault and furthermore such an important character is basically just dumped on us all at once in one [ __ ] book saturnine basically John grammaticus meets her and says oh yeah you're aerid right and she reveals to him yeah I'm the mother of the Primark surprise and we get sold this thing about how John grammaticus and ananus parison supposedly know her and think she's so cool and all that but we've never met her and they've never mentioned her and yet she's just dropped on us here and now and then it's dropped on us that she's the mother of the [ __ ] primarch it's just such a weird storytelling thing this is the reason people hate the book saturnine so much despite it being amazingly written like this book is damn near perfect except for [ __ ] era and honestly in my opinion she could actually be replaced by a character who already existed am aarte the chief geneticist behind the asardes project and from whom Space Marines get their name basically what you would have to do is make her somehow Perpetual that she didn't know about but the emperor did know about and have her basically hide in Exile because she can't challenge the emperor it's not that hard and we had met her prior in valdor birth of the Imperium another really really good book it would take an already interesting character and make her far more complex and open up a lot more character discussion in regard to her development but era is literally dropped on us nowhere like a bomb and then after everyone hated this character that was stuffed down our throats we all kind of hated her however two books later she's only in two books saturnine not in the next one mortis and then in Warhawk she's killed off arabis just shows up she reveals these super cool badass powers that she has that we didn't know about or didn't know was possible like she splits into three different beings takes on four greater Demons of chaos but is then just killed by arabus because she's now exhausted from the fight it's the weirdest thing and it all just comes out of [ __ ] nowhere it seems like having her be killed by one of the most hated characters and I'll get to arabus in the video in this way seems almost like an attempt to save face for the character to get us to like her or sympathize with her somehow but funnily enough it had the opposite effect wherein people count this as Arab's W moment and whenever people talk about how much they hate him there'll always be someone who says well he did Kill Aida so we got to give him that and you know what there's just something beautiful about that in my mind and since I just mentioned him number seven is arabus himself you know the so-called hand of Destiny now I'm putting this one on here against my better judgment if I'm being honest because I made a whole video back in the day on why arabus is actually one of the most beloved characters in all of Warhammer the reason being he falls into that category of characters you love to hate because when one of the biggest memes in the fandom is [ __ ] arus and his whole reason to exist is to be hated then yeah he's kind of done his job perfectly and hating him is honestly a form of loving him nobody complains that arabis is poorly written or they wish he was never in the setting people hate him because he's just so great at what he does but someone who has an entire meme based around hating them simply can't be excluded from a list like this and I knew I would get Hell in a hand basket if I excluded him so let's move on here number six is abdon the despoiler and again this is one I actually don't really feel is all that fair but it is different from the arabis one because people hate arabis for being so successful and so good at what he does but when it comes to abdon people hate him because of his lack of success 13 black Crusades to get this far people feel is way too much and they believe he should have been ousted a long time ago he actually has the nickname of fail badon and when I released my most recent video painting his moment below the saturnine gate as the saddest in Warhammer a lot of people pointed to me and said hey thank you so much for sympathizing with him and really looking into the character instead of falling back on L fail badon fa badon fail badon but that really can't be denied why people hate him how however in my mind it's not entirely Justified he's honestly the only character who could do what he does and I don't think any other character could replace him in his position of warm but yeah 13 black Crusades is a lot and he has met with a limited number of successes however I think he's a very interesting character when you look at him in books not just in the heresy but also post heresy such as Aaron demsky Bowen's black Legion Series where he really shows himself to be an Adept commander and you can understand why people follow him the way they do also it's a common claim that abdon has quote unquote plot armor because of how long he's been leading the black Legion and because of his win over sigismond I don't really think that's true because he is a Savvy leader in a lot of ways so he could reasonably stay in power and he hadn't aged in a, years while Sigman was like 1,200 years old at this time and definitely slowing down because Space Marines do start to slow down past a certain point and it should be noted abidon barely made it out of that fight with his life but one thing that does feel like [ __ ] to me is his fight with jubel Khan in the Solar War the first book in The Siege of Terra series that feels like [ __ ] to me I honestly could keep going about abidon but we're going to put a pin in that for now and move on two Lucius the Eternal and oh boy I can already hear the Venom bubbling behind the screen now y'all hate this guy now I was talking earlier about incompetence and power scaling as the reason why people will hate a character here we're sort of moving away from the incompetent characters to the power scale ones because Lucius is very very good at everything he does honestly a little too good yes he did betray Saul tarvitz you know a character everybody adored and held near and dear to their hearts in the early Horus heresy in a way that was so scummy and left an awful taste in everyone's mouth but as previously discussed with a character like arabus that isn't a death sentence in fact it can sometimes play to a character's benefit if done right to set them up as a really awful antagonist however what people despise about Lucius is his [ __ ] ability to come back from the dead he's supposedly this unbeatable swordsman yet we see him lose now and again however if you beat him and take even the tiniest modom of pride in it oh surprise you become the new Lucius and there's nothing you can do about it that's just so ey rolling irritating and nobody likes that ability I'll be the first to say it the Emperor's Children deserve more interesting named characters but please not him and he also just has so little depth outside of oh I'm the greatest and I'm so sadistic and oo my super cool always never die ability like there's very little to him honestly especially when you compare him to characters like Fabius bile being hatable is fine being irritating is unacceptable and going on with this thread of logic another example of characters that make people just groan in anguish is calor drag former grandmas of the grey Knights Legion and boy howdy this one is notorious the dude basically travels through the warp on his own kicking the [ __ ] out of demons and even beat the demon primarch mortarion in one-on-one combat and carved the name of his predecessor on his heart thereby permanently humiliating him because he's just so Unstoppable people view him as everything wrong with The Grey Knights faction in general that he's just so op and so amazing and no one can ever beat him I I I'm kind of losing words to describe this sort of character type so I'll just shave it down and say you guys know what I mean an unbeatable character like this who gets into impossible situations and just cannot be stopped is something nobody likes he feels like a really crummy OC if I'm being honest and again since I just mentioned him the next on the list is mortarion Primark of the death guard now I knew I had to put at least one primarch on the list and the reason I zeroed in on mortarion the second option was actually Leman Russ because of the whole burning of Prospero thing but it was because he comes across as a hypocrite which again leans into incompetence his hatred for psychers yet he still falls back on it and his desire to rule like he believes he should have a small Empire despite having opposed tyrants and opposing the emperor for being a tyrant he States this in the scars book and there's also the fact that he has his own plans against Horus even during the siege of Tera itself like he plans to swoop in and take the throne and that's not to mention the fact that he was the leading voice against Pyers at the Council of Nika which effectively screwed over the Imperium and is regarded even by Space Marines during the heresy as a complete blunder of Imperial policy that was his fault and the language he uses at the meeting is so condescending towards Magnus he says oh I'm not doing doing this because I hate Magnus I'm doing this because I love him as my brother I'm just looking out for the safety of his soul but when the decision is about to be reached he's standing there with this smug self assured look on his face making it clear it's absolutely personal he just comes across as a dishonest hypocrite and he doesn't really do much cool stuff like for all his faults Leman Russ has his Defenders and some other primarchs just kind of go unnoticed but I've yet to meet anyone who actually likes mortarion or for any good reason and this whole thing of being unreliable and treacherous just rubs a lot of people the wrong way and I don't mean treacherous in that cool I outsmarted you kind of way like arabus in that kind of I'm just an unreliable [ __ ] kind of way and speaking of unreliable [ __ ] another character everyone hates and also speaking of the Space Wolves is oir weird make Rune priest of the Space Wolves Legion now if you don't know this character I wouldn't blame you because he only appears in one book in the Horus heresy that being a thousand Sons but it's a really good book so I would totally recommend picking it up if you already haven't as well as having a smaller role in the book Prospero Burns but still it's mostly just one book but realistically that's all it takes to make everyone in their mother hate your guts because what this guy did was go out of his way to befriend isak araman the very likable Chief librarian of the Thousand Suns Legion and exchange information with him there relationship was really nice because it seemed like two very different Legions Reaching Across the aisle through a small shred of commonality however when the Council of Nika rolled around the council by which the Space Marine Legions were to decide the fate of Pyers within the legions he spoke up against araman and the Thousand Sons revealing then that their friendship and bonds of Brotherhood had been a ruse all along in order to get Aran to divulge his Secrets he used these secrets to then cry the entire Legion as warlocks all while denying up and down that he is in no way a sorcerer like the Thousand Suns despite being a quote unquote Rune priest because his power comes from the world Forge of benris and the Heart of the planet or whatever the [ __ ] that means even though it's very clear that he is a warlock as well except he has even less training and less control thereby making him probably more dangerous honestly like we have characters who use other characters like the whole Alpha Legion for instance but they don't pretend to be someone's personal friend and I think a lot of people can actually relate to having someone they viewed as a personal friend turn on them and screw them over or [ __ ] talk them behind their back and it really hurts also there's again the hypocrisy you know that sort of incompetence we see also in characters like mortarion because he himself is a barely trained psycher and a librarian but he just swears that he he's not because he just isn't and another reason people hate him is because of the consequences of his actions it's very similar again to why people hate mortarion for the Council of nikea because it saw the Thousand Sons a very likable Legion screwed over and people know that the Council of nikea was actually one of the imperium's biggest blunders because it left them with their pants down when the Horus heresy rolled around and demons began playing on the field and I'm going out of my way to say this now because I actually missed it back during the mortar part of the video now I also feel like I want to put an honorable mention in this and that would have to be surprisingly the emperor because even though a lot of people love the emperor we all know you got to praise the emperor guys come on it's it's pretty obvious at this point but there's a lot of people who do hate him and cite him as everything wrong with The Imperium people who decry his every action from the great crusade to the Council of nikea to the burning of monarchia and many more along with the insane amount of xenophobia so while he's also one of the most beloved characters in The fandom he is also one of the most hated because basically everyone has some kind of opinion on him very few people are just neutral most people have thoughts one way or the other and for a character to be this polarizing especially a character who is effectively the protagonist of the setting really does say a lot and now on to number one and it is John grammaticus oh Lord now if you've been following my channel for any amount of time you might know that I am not fond of this character in fact you might say I hate him you might even say I despise him you could even say that I am rooting not just on his death but on his narrative downfall you might even say I want this character humiliated and retconned into the [ __ ] black hole at the center of the Galaxy now you might be thinking hang on Chrono this sounds like a personal bias and you should also note that it's also my video but for real I do have reasons for why he's number one and it's not just because people hate the character people hate him included in Warhammer nobody who dislikes mortarion says it would be better off if he wasn't there people who hate arabis actually want him there whether they want to admit that or not and oir weird make does serve as a good villain and his death was really satisfying but John grammaticus actively ruins the story by his mere presence the only other example of this I can come up with is calor Drago and John grammaticus is a significantly more consequential than Kor [ __ ] Drago he has shown up in several novels now and every time my eyes just roll so far back in my head I can start counting the brain cells that are dying when he opens his mouth it's because his dialogue is so it's just so inappropriate for what you would expect in a 40K book and we keep getting told he's this badass we keep getting told he's awesome but it's just barely ever shown he just is more than anything a damel in distress but we are just continually sold this narrative that he's somehow cool and the Galaxy hangs in the balance on what he does and oh he's got this big part to play he's just there with his thumb up his ass in the shadow of better characters just [ __ ] up the lore honestly now one of the most requested videos in the history of this channel is a full rant on John grammaticus and to that end I actually listened to three separate audio books that being Vulcan lives unremembered Empire and old Earth I probably never would have read Vulcan lives or old Earth were it not for this because I was putting myself through the research before I make a John grammaticus rant video and I'm still holding off on that even now because the end in the Death volume 2 is about to come out and he's going to play an important role in that God willing it will be the last one don't carry him over to part three Dan Abnet and I want to wait for that and listen to that first just so I can have a little more of my basis covered and be ready for I guess the last part of the book to cap his story off which it probably will let's be honest now one thing about him is I have seen people try and defend this character and say hey I find his commentary kind of cool or hey you know he brings a sort of human element and those people have been dog piled I have seen people viciously mocked for liking this character or defending this character and don't do that that's really mean and people who like him are entitled to like him but that that's [ __ ] hilarious defending this character will have people turn on you that is how hated this character is the reason everyone flew to my channel like mods to a lighthouse is because I openly expressed hatred for this character that gained me like a bit of a reputation in the fandom honestly people like make John grammaticus jokes at me because they know how much I hate this character and how much so many other people also hate this character character and in reality a lot of hatred for these characters are common memes and the fandoms that bring people together so I guess the real worst character in Warhammer was the friends we made along the way but what do you guys think do you guys believe that I'm right about these characters and that they genuinely are hated do you guys think someone else should have been on the list was there any one character I didn't go hard on enough or should have been harder on I'd love to hear what you guys think in the comments below and please consider subscribing but until then I will see you in next video

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Published: Wed Oct 11 2023