‘Gasps’ all around: How Trump's guilty verdict landed in the courtroom

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REUBEN INSIDE THE ROOM FOR THE HISTORIC MOMENT, LISA. >> Reporter: HI, NICOLLE, THAT WAS SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. WHEN TRUMP AND TODD BLANCH CAME INTO THE COURTROOM AT 4:15 SUMMED BY JUDGE MERCHAN. THEY WERE IN HIGH SPIRITS. TRUMP AND BLANCHE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, WHISPERING CONSPIRACY LIKE THE VOTE THEMSELVES. A FOREPERSON CHOSEN BY NEW YORK LAW, NOT BY HIS PEERS. WHEN HE GAVE THE VERDICT, HE WAS ASKED, WHAT SAY YOU ON COUNT ONE, COUNT TWO, COUNT THREE, ALL THE WAY THROUGH 34. NICOLLE, HOLDING A HAND MIKE LIKE HE WAS AT A GRADE SCHOOL TALENT SHOW, THE MAN SAID IN A VERY CLEAR VOICE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT JUDGE MERCHAN FOR EACH OF THOSE 34 COUNTS GUILTY. WHEN I HEARD HIM SAY COUNT ONE WAS GUILTY AND COUNT TWO WAS GUILTY, I WAS PRETTY SURE THEY WOULD HAVE A STRAIGHT COUNT. BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE EARLY COUNTS CORRESPOND TO CHECKS AND SUBPOENAS NOT MADE BY DONALD TRUMP IN HIS PERSONAL CAPACITY, BUT BY THE TRUST. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD A CHANCE TO DISTANCE THEIR CLIENT FROM WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE TRUST. THE MINUTE I COULD HEAR HIM SAY THAT, I COULD SEE HIM AND OTHER JURORS' SHOULDERS LIKE A LIGHTNING, AND THEY SEEMED LIGHTER BY THE FACT THIS WAS OVER. THIS IS A JURY AS LAWRENCE SAID TOOK THIS EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY, UTTERLY ATTENTIVE, THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY POSED TO JUDGE MERCHAN THAT THEY WANTED READ BACK TO THEM, SHOWS THEM HOW CLOSELY THEY WERE LISTENING TO THE TESTIMONY. I HAVE MORE OF AN APPETITE ABOUT THIS CASE THAN JUST ABOUT ANYONE I KNOW, EVERYONE I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, OH, MY GOSH, JOSH, WRAP IT UP HERE. YET THE JURORS NEVER FLAGGED. THEY WERE WITH HIM. THEY TOOK THEIR JOBS INTENSITY SERIOUSLY. WHEN THEY GOT THE VERDICT, EACH AND EVERY ONE AGREED BECAUSE BLANCHE INSISTED THEY BE POLLED. IN A CLEAR VOICE, EACH AN EVERY ONE SAID YES OR YES, IT IS. MERCHAN, YOU COULD SEE HE PUT HIS HEAD IN HIS HANDS FOR A SECOND, ALMOST LIKE WEIGHING THE GRAVITY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN HIS COURTROOM. YET IN THAT STERN DEMEANOR THAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE TRIAL, THE FIRST PEOPLE HE DIRECTED HIS ATTENTION TO WERE THE JURY TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND FOR THEIR ATTENTION AND ENGAGEMENT AND INVESTMENT IN THE CASE. AND IN AN OVERTURE TO WHO THEY WERE DECIDING THIS CASE AGAINST, HE DID NOD TO THE IMPORTANCE AND GRAVITY OF THE CASE, NOTING -- HE NEVER SAID YOU WERE CALLED UPON TO DECIDE A CASE AGAINST THE PERSON WHO USED TO BE THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD. BUT IT WAS CLEAR THAT WHAT HE WAS SAYING TO THEM WAS, YOU TOOK YOUR TIME, YOU PAID ATTENTION. YOU UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS AT STAKE HERE. AND YOU DIDN'T RUSH TO A JUDGMENT, RATHER, YOU WERE THINKING THOROUGHLY ABOUT EACH AND EVERY BIT OF EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU. THEN HE TURNED TO THE ALTERNATE JURORS AND SIMILARLY THANKED THEM. AND I WANT TO FLAG FOR YOU, NICOLLE, AND RACHEL AND OTHERS, WE NEVER HAD TO CALL UPON AN ALTERNATE JUROR HERE. GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THIS TRIAL THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS RARE. AND HE TURNED THE ATTENTION SAYING IN MANY TRIALS I HAVE HAD TO CALL ON ALTERNATE JURORS TO FILL IN, I NEVER NEEDED TO. YOU WERE HERE THROUGHOUT, THANK YOU. IT WAS ONLY THEN THAT HE TURNED HIS ATTENTION TO THE TASKS THAT REMAIN. WHETHER THERE WERE ANY MOTIONS FROM TODD BLANCHE, WHO OF COURSE, STOOD UP AND ASKED FOR A JUDGMENT NOTWITHSTANDING THE VERDICT SAYING THAT THIS JURY COULD NOT POSSIBLY CONVICT DONALD TRUMP UNLESS THEY WERE RELYING ON MICHAEL COHEN IN LARGE PART. AND HE MADE A REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT EVERYONE KNOWS MICHAEL COHEN IS A PERJURER. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME WE SAW JUDGE MERCHAN'S TEMPER FLARE SAYING WHEN YOU REFER TO KNOWING HE'S A PERJURER, YOU'RE NOT INFERRING THAT I KNOW HE'S A PERJURER, MR. BLANCHE, DO YOU? AND THEN TODD BLANCHE STEPPED BACK. I CAN TELL YOU WHILE MY HANDS WERE TYPING THE DETAIL, MY LEG WAS SHAKING THE ENTIRE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS TENSE FOR EVERYBODY IN THAT ROOM. JUST LIKE THE SEVEN WEEKS OF HAVING BEEN IN THERE FROM JURY SELECTION TO TODAY'S FINALE. I WASN'T SURE WE WERE GOING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAD ANY GUILTY VERDICT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP LET ALONE ALL 34 COUNTS. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS JURY SHOWED SOME OF THEIR DOUBT AND SKEPTICISM ON THEIR FACES AT TIMES AS YOU WOULD WANT ANY GOOD JURY TO DO, NICOLLE. >> LISA RUBIN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, ALVIN BRAGG JUST TWEETED THIS, TODAY A JURY FOUND DONALD J. TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 FELONY COUNTS. THAT'S THE TWEET. AND MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT WAS NOTABLE INSIDE THE COURTROOM WHEN THE VERDICT WAS READ? ARI HAD SOME REPORTING THAT ERIC TRUMP SEEMED UPSET OR ACTED UPSET. DID ANYONE GASP? DID ANYONE SAY ANYTHING? WHAT WAS THE REACTION THAT YOU COULD PICK UP? >> Reporter: OH, YEAH, I WAS SITTING NEXT TO ADAM WHO LOOK WITH OUR COLLEAGUE LAWRENCE O'DONNELL EACH AND EVERY DAY AND ANOTHER REPORTER ON THE OTHER. I COULD HEAR GASPS ALL AROUND ME. IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY -- WHAT YOU WOULD IMAGINE THE KERMIT THE FROG MEME TO BE, THAT'S WHAT THE JURY SOUNDED LIKE. WE WERE STILL IN THERE WITH THE D.A.'S OFFICE, I SHOULD NOTE, DAY IN AND DAY OUT, WHEN DONALD TRUMP AND HIS TEAM LEAVE, THE D.A. IS STILL IN THERE. ALVIN BRAGG LOOKED STRAIGHT AHEAD. NO SMILE ON HIS FACE. IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO JUST WON A 34-COUNT CONVICTION AGAINST THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, LET ALONE A CONVICTION AGAINST A PRESIDENT OR FORMER PRESIDENT, IT LOOKED LIKE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAD JUST HAD A LONG DAY AT TRIAL. THEY COMPLETELY PREPARED THEMSELVES THAT THE EYES OF 100 PLUS JOURNALISTS WOULD BE ON THEM IF IN FA
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Length: 7min 1sec (421 seconds)
Published: Thu May 30 2024
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