WAR OF MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS NOW. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, KELLY O'DONNELL REPORTING FROM PARIS FOR US. SO RICK, IN A NEW PIECE IN THE NEW YORKER, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT YOU HAD A CHANCE TO READ SUSAN GLASSER. IT'S A PROFOUNDLY THOUGHTFUL WORK TODAY. AMONG THE THINGS SHE WROTE IS THIS, NEITHER STIRRING BATTLEFIELD RHETORIC NOR SNARKY ONE LINERS, THOUGH CAN EXPLAIN HOW BIDEN CAN EXTRACT HIMSELF FROM HIS CURRENT PREDICAMENT, RUNNING DEAD EVEN AT BEST AGAINST A FELONIOUS EX-PRESIDENT WHO DIMINISHES THE THREATS FROM AMERICA'S AVERSAIES ABROAD BECAUSE HE IS CONSUMED BY PURGING DISLOYAL CITIZENS AT HOME. SOMETHING IS GOING TO CLICK WITH VOTERS. I TALKED TO THE COCHAIR OF THE CAMPAIGN YESTERDAY THAT THEY THINK AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE CAMPAIGN, MANY OF THESE KEY THINGS ARE GOING TO BE RESONATING, BUT ARE THEY WRONG TO EXPECT THAT? ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A POCKETBOOK ISSUE, THAT THEY MAY THINK DOESN'T IMPACT THEIR EVERYDAY LIVES. >> WELL, IN MANY POLLS, PEOPLE SAY DEMOCRACY IS ON THE LINE, AND IN FACT, IN THAT SUSAN GLASSER PIECE, SHE QUOTES FROM THE LETTER THAT MARK MILLEY WROTE TO DONALD TRUMP WHEN HE WAS LEAVING OFFICE, AND IT WAS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT D-DAY. HE SAID NOT ONLY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WORLD WAR II IS ABOUT, YOU EMBRACE THE VALUES THAT WE FOUGHT AGAINST. I MEAN, YOU CANNOT BE CLEARER THAN THAT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE POLLS SHOW IS THAT MAYBE PEOPLE ARE NOT ENAMORED OF JOE BIDEN, MAYBE THEY THINK HE'S OLD, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISTASTE FOR DONALD TRUMP ARE JUST NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM. AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE BIDEN VERY MUCH ARE SO REPELLED BY TRUMP THAT THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR BIDEN ANYWAY. I THINK DRAWING THE CONTRAST, AND YOU COULDN'T HAVE DRAWN THE CONTRAST MORE CLEARLY TODAY TO HAVE PRESIDENT BIDEN IN POINTE DU HOC TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRATIC VALUES AND DONALD TRUMP TALKING LAST NIGHT ABOUT ATTACKING HIS ENEMIES. >> SO MARK, IN THAT SAME PIECE, SUSAN GLASSER ALSO ASKS THIS. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER TRUMP IN HELSINKI IN 2018 TRIPPING OVER HIMSELF AS HE TOOK PUTIN'S WORD OVER THAT OF AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES OR TRUMP IN FRANCE FOR ANOTHER SET OF WORLD WAR COMMEMORATIONS LATER THAT YEAR, FRESH OFF MIDTERM ELECTION LOSSES AND SKIPPING A CEMETERY VISIT BECAUSE HE REPORTEDLY DID NOT WANT TO GET HIS HAIR WET. OR TRUMP IN 2019 BLACKMAILING UKRAINE'S YOUNG NEW PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY BY HOLDING UP HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN U.S. MILITARY ASSISTANCE NEEDED TO FIGHT OFF RUSSIA AS HE DEMANDED ZELENSKYY DIG UP DIRT ON BIDEN. HOW MUCH OF THIS, THOUGH, IS ON THE MIND OF WORLD LEADERS AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO REACT TO JOE BIDEN IN THE FACE OF THE POTENTIAL OF ANOTHER TRUMP PRESIDENCY? >> WELL, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER THOSE PARTICULAR INCIDENTS OF DONALD TRUMP IS A BROADER PALATE FOR ALL THE THINGS THEY FORGET. AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS ARE RARELY ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY. THAT'S CERTAINLY LIKELY TO BE TRUE IN THIS ONE. I MEAN, THIS COMMEMORATION OF D-DAY IS HELPFUL FOR BIDEN BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES DRAW THE STARK CONTRAST AND REMINDS PEOPLE ABOUT HOW FRAGILE OUR DEMOCRACY IS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WAY DOWN THE LIST OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT IN NOVEMBER, YOU KNOW, BARRING SOME INTERNATIONAL CRISIS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. SO AS A USEFUL AND HELPFUL POINT OF DIFFERENTIATION FOR BIDEN, BUT YOU KNOW, GOT GOT TO GET BACK TO MEAT AND POTATO STUFF PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HERE. THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT IS THE HIGH WIRE ACT HE'S DECIDED TO ENGAGE IN IN THE FIRST DEBATE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. >> YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, RICK, THE OLD SAYING WHEN PEOPLE SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM. THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH CAME AT THE SAME TIME AS DONALD TRUMP WAS MAKING HEADLINES FOR, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THIS REMARK. >> I THINK YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO DO, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET EVEN. YOU ONLY HAVE TIME TO GET RIGHT. >> WELL, REVENGE DOES TAKE TIME, I WILL SAY THAT. >> IT DOES. >> AND SOMETIMES REVENGE CAN BE JUSTIFIED. I HAVE TO BE HONEST -- SOMETIMES IT CAN. >> DO YOU FIND ANYTHING SURPRISING ABOUT THE FACT THAT GIVEN THE PRESIDENT, FORMER PRESIDENT'S CONVERSATION THERE WITH DR. PHIL, BUT DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY HE HAS MADE SIMILAR COMMENTS WITH SEAN HANNITY, THAT THAT CONTRAST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AT LEAST RESONATING IN THE WAY, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO SUSAN GLASSER'S ARTICLE. YOU STILL HAVE A RACE THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO CALL. >> YOU KNOW, CHRIS, WE'RE HERE CELEBRATING D-DAY. THIS IS ABOUT MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SACRIFICED THEMSELVES FOR IDEALS LARGER THAN THEMSELVES. THAT'S THE VERY OPPOSITE OF VENGEANCE. VENGEANCE IS MINE SAYETH THE LORD. I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE SEEING THAT CONTRAST IS GOING TO GO I WANT A GUY WHO IS GOING TO GO AFTER HIS ENEMIES IN A DEMOCRACY, RATHER THAN EMBRACING THE VALUES OF DEMOCRACY THAT SAVED THE
