♪♪ >>> HE SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF I DON'T KNOW THAT WE LOST MARK, IT'S EMBARRASSING, FIGURE IT OUT. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE LOST. >> HIS AGAIN, EVERYONE. IT'S 5:00 IN THE EAST. TRUMP KNEW ALL ALONG, RIGHT? THAT HE LOST, EVEN THOUGH HE'S RAGED FOR FOUR YEARS THAT THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS SOMEHOW STOLEN FROM HIM, IN PRIVATE, EVEN DONALD TRUMP HAS ADMITTED THE TRUTH. EVEN DONALD TRUMP KNOWS THE TRUST. IT'S A TRUTH HE'S SO EMBARRASSED ABOUT THAT THIS GUY BEAT HIM IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. TODAY IN A NEW TAPE, WE'RE HEARING THAT PROGRESSIVE ADMISSION IN THE EX-PRESIDENT'S OWN WORDS ON TAPE. A REMARKABLE SLIP OF THE MASK, RIGHT? TRUMP'S FACADE MADE DURING ONE OF HIS HALF-DOZEN INTERVIEWS WITH RAMIN SATOODA. WE SPOKE WITH HIM ON THE PROGRAM YESTERDAY. HERE IS THAT NEVER BEFORE HEARD EXCHANGE THAT CAME UP WHEN TRUMP WAS TALKING ABOUT FORMER FOX NEWS COMMENTATOR, GERALDO RIVERA. COMMENTATOR, GERALDO RIVERA >>> SO, DESPITE TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO PUT HIS MASK BACK ON, RIGHT? QUICKLY COVER IT UP. YOU HEARD THE TRUTH POUR OUT OF HIM. CALL ME AFTER I LOST -- I MEAN I WON, BUT HE LOST. HE ADMITTED IT ON TAPE. BUT MEANWHILE, PUBLICLY, AND EVEN THERE ON THAT CALL, THE DISGRACED EX-PRESIDENT CONTINUES TO PERPETUATE AND SPREAD THE LIE, THE LIE THAT HAS UNDERMINED TRUST AND FAITH IN OUR ELECTIONS, IN AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, THE LIE THAT HIS OWN SPORTERS HAVE BOUGHT INTO HOOK, LINE AND SINKER, SOME OF THEM THE COST TO FREEDOM, LIBERTY, THE LIE THAT FUELED SUPPORTERS INTO COMMITTING A DEADLY COUP AGAINST THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. THE LIE FOR WHICH DOZENS OF TRUMP'S ALLIES HAVE BEEN INDICTED ACROSS SEVERITY STATES. MORE THAN HALF REPUBLICAN VOTERS BELIEVE THE LIE, THE LIKE THAT TRUMP COULDN'T EVEN KEEP UP IN A TAPED INTERVIEW. NOW WE KNOW, THE CULT LEADER DOESN'T EVEN BELIEVE THE LIKE. THAT'S SLIPPING WHERE WE START THE HOUR, AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK WE SHOWCASED IT HERE YESTERDAY. HE'S BACK. RAMIN SATOODAH IS BACK WITH US. AS A SHOW, WE SOUGHT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE LIE ABOUT TRUMP'S DEFEAT IN 2020 HAS UNDERMINED VOTING RIGHTS, ALMOST 400 VOTER SUPPRESSION BILLS HAVE BEEN PASSED IN 48 STATES IN THIS COUNTRY PREDICATED ON A LIE. THE JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION HAPPENS. MIKE PENCE DOESN'T ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY. IT'S A PRECIOUS PIECES OF REPORT ING TELL ME WHAT THAT MOMENT WAS LIKE. >> WE WERE SITTING AT THE SAME TABLE, ALL OF 2021. HE WAS VERY COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE WE WERE WATCHING CLIPS OF "THE APPRENTICE." I THINK HE WAS REMEMBERING HIS LIFE AS ENTERTAINER, VERY AMUSED, EXCITED TO SEE HIMSELF IN THE BOARDROOM. THIS IS ALL PERFORMANCE ART FOR DONALD TRUMP. MY BOOK TRIES TO GET INTO THE PSYCHEST OF WHO DONALD TRUMP IS, WHAT HIS MOTIVATIONS ARE, WHAT HE'S DOING AS A, QUOTE POLITICIAN, BECAUSE I MAKE THE ARGUMENT IN THE BOOK HE'S REALLY NOT A POLITICIAN. THE PEOPLE HE SPOKE WITH SAYS HE PLAYED AN ACT, AND PLAYED A ROLE AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE ALSO PLAYED A ROLE IN THIS LIE THAT HE PERPETUATES. HE'S ACTING THE PART OF AN AGGRIEVED POLITICIAN WHO CLAIMANTS THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM HIM, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT'S SOMETHING HIS BAILS LOVES. WE, LIKE THE CHARACTER IN "ALICE IN WONDERLAND" ARE GOING THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, WHERE HE'S DISTORTING THE TRUTH AND CONFUSING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. >> RAMIN, DID YOU FOLLOW THE JANUARY 6th PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSELY AT ALL? >> I DID, YES. >> I ASK THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF A PATTERN, AND WHAT'S SO UNIQUE IS EVERYBODY ELSE WAS A WITNESS. CASSIDY HUTCHINSON TESTIFIES. TRUMP IS WATCHING TELEVISION, AND MUTTERS, I CAN'T BELIEVE I LOST TO THIS GUY. YOU HAVE IT ON TAPE. I'M GOING TO READ TO OUR AUDIENCE TRUMP'S RESPONSE TO THIS PART OF THE BOOK AND THE REVELATION THAT WE WERE GOING TO PLAY THE TAPE. THIS IS HIS CAMPAIGN SPOKESPERSON -- AFTER RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT OF "THE APPRENTICE" AND TRUMP'S REMARKABLE ROLE AND FOREVER CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE OF ENTERTAINMENT, THIS WRITER HAS CHOSEN-TO-TO ROT HIS BRAIN LIKE SO MANY OTHER LOSER WHOSE ENTIRE EXISTENCE REVOLVES AROUND TRUMP. WHAT IS NOTABLE IN THERE IS NOT THE DOG THAT DOESN'T BARK. NO DENIAL THAT TRUMP KNOWS HE LOST. >> IT'S ALSO PART OF THE PERFORMANCE ART. THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM A REALITY STAR, WHO MAKES UP NAMES, CREATES FALSE NARRATIVES. WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS MOMENT, THE STORY OF WHY HE AND GERALDO HAD A FALLING OUT TRACES BACK TO THE FACT THAT GERALDO WENT ON TWITTER, NAMED THAT AT THE TIME, SKATE THAT TRUMP WOULD ACCEPT THE -- AND GERALDO SAYS THAT TRUMP SAID A VERSION OF THAT, AND THEN CHANGED HIS MIND AND DECIDED THIS ELECTION, HE WAS GOING TO CLAIM THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN, AND HE WAS GOING TO PERPETUATE THAT LIE. SO, THAT'S THE REASON WHY HE STOPPED TALKING TO GERALDO, BUT IT ALL GOES BACK TO HE'S PLAYING A PART, CREATING THIS FALSE NARRATIVE, AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE BELIEVE HIM. >> THINK YOU HAVE A FRAME THAT'S INSTRUCTIVE FOR ANYONE TRYING TO COVER TRUMP IN THIS MOMENT, RIGHT? THE OTHER MASK YOU TAKE OFF IS THE IDEA THAT HE EVER SAW HIMSELF AS A LEADER OF ANYTHING. I WANT TO PLAY ANOTHER PART OF THE TAPE THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO US, TALKING ABOUT DENS RODMAN'S ACUMEN TO DEALY KIM JONG-UN. >> DENNIS WAS A PRETTY COOL CAT. HE DATED MADONNA WHEN SHE WAS THE NUMBER ONE PERSON. HE'S GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING GOING. >> I THINK HE SHOWED UP TO KING JONG-UN. I CAN GET THESE GUYS OUT CENTRAL CASTING, THEY COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH KIM JONG-UN. A GUY LIKE DENNIS COULD. I THOUGHT ABOUT IT A COUPLE TIMES BEFORE I GOT TO KNOW HIM, BUT DENNIS WOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL PEOPLE, YOUR TRADITIONAL IVY LEAGUE PEOPLE THAT ALWAYS DO THAT STUFF, AND THEY HAVE NO PERSONALITY. KIM JONG-UN LIKED HIM. HE COACHED THE BASKETBALL TEAM. >> RIGHT. >> YEAH, HE SAID, I LIKED DENNIS. >> YEAH, I ASKED HIM. HE LIKED HIM. BY THE WAY, DENNIS LIKED HIM, TOO. >>> I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE LOOKINGGLASS DOES IT. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO MURDERS HIS OWN PEOPLE, I MEAN, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST BRUTAL DICTATORSHIPS IN THE WORLD, REPRESENTS A GROWING THREAT TO THIS COUNTRY WITH A IN ALLIANCE WITH PUTIN. TRUMP IS SO CAVALIER ABOUT IT. HE THINKING DENNIS IS BETTER THAN ANYONE WHO STUDIES NORTH KOREA'S NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES, OR UNDERSTANDS THE GEOPOLITICAL CONSEQUENCES OF THIS PACT. >> TO ME IT TRACES BACK TO TRUMP SAYING THAT DENNIS RODMAN DATED MADONNA, QUOTE, HE'S A COOL CAT. THAT'S THE HEADSPACE HE'S IN. WANTING TO BE IN THE PROXIMITY OF FAME. SEE FAME AS A CURRENCY. THE ULTIMATE CURRENCY, AND HAVING NO QUALIFICATIONS IN TERMS OF LEADERSHIP. WHEN HE SAID DENNIS ROD MA'AM IS BETTER THAT THESE GUYS IN CENTRAL CASTING, AND DENNIS WHO WAS TWICE ON "THE APPRENTICE." WAS KNOWN FOR VERY MESSY ANTICS, SOMEHOW HAD A BETTER HANDLE ON GLOBAL DIPLOMACY AND DEALING WITH KIM JONG-UN THAN PEOPLE IN OUR GOVERNMENT, WHO STUDIED WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE HANDLING THIS IN A PROFESSIONAL, CORRECT WAY. IT WAS VERY JARS.
