xQc Reacts to There's Something About Casey... (JCS - Criminal Psychology)

okay chat we'll give a tros aware of who 2-year-old most of you will already be aware of who 2-year-old Kaylee Anthony was the majority will know that she sadly passed away at some point between 10000 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. on June 16th 2008 her death is undoubtedly the most heartbreaking part of this story and we only need a single word to epitomize her short life tragic but the primary subject of this video is not about the life nor the death death of Kaye Marie Anthony it is in fact about the psychological constitution of her mother 22-year-old Casey Marie Anthony so rather than tragic you'll find the words disturbing and perplexing to be far better suited to the theme of this video one yeah yeah yeah trigger one yeah yeah chat be careful CH these are kind of dark okay I I think they're really good um just yeah they're kind of dark so you know if you're not if you can of if you can of go kind of fragile just be careful of the many reason reasons this case is exceptional is how the present day's topic of discussion has little to do with the actual occurrences of the crime but in fact the subsequent developments that followed people are no longer talking about how or even why Kaye Anthony passed away they are instead talking about the manner in which a mother responded to her daughter's death given all the acquired information we now have even if we afford this person the most morally acceptable possibility of what occurred her manner of conduct was still unimaginably cold blooded this is driven home by the fact she was evaluated by two clinical psychologists during her time in custody and not a single abnormality was discovered with relation to her psychological state in other words there were no signs of mental illness whatsoever and this makes the character study of Casey Anthony just as fascinating as it is terrifying a human being's State of Mind is something most accurately assessed with the full capacity of hindsight so before we evaluate our first segment of raw footage here's a quick rundown of each of the essential moments that will give you a broader understanding of what we're actually dealing with on the 15th of July 2008 Orlando Police received a call from Cindy Anthony the grandmother of the victim 911 what's your emergency I called a little bit ago the deputy sheriff I found out my granddaughter has been taken she has been missing for a month we're talking about a three-year-old little girl my daughter finally admitted that the baby's to the store I need to find her your daughter admitted that your the baby is where the baby said took her a month ago my daughter's been looking for I told you my daughter was missing for a month I just found her today but I can't find my granddaughter she just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself there's something wrong I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car okay what is the three-year-old's name kayy c a y l e e Anthony kayy Anthony yes how long she miss this is crazy I have not seen her since the 7th of June is your daughter there yes can I speak with her hello hello yes can you tell me what's going on a little bit I'm sorry can you tell me a little bit what's going on my daughter's been missing for the last 31 days and you know who has her I know who has I've tried to contact her I actually received a phone call today now from a number that is no longer in service I did get to speak to my daughter for about a moment about a minute who has her do you have a name her name is Zena Fernandez gonzale well this makes no sense this context to this bizarre phone call Casey Anthony had left the family home with her daughter a month earlier stating that she had a work assignment in Tampa and would be traveling maybe I'm over reading this but I feel like I feel people say oh I actually just got a phone like I I think I can already tell she's lying or something the entire time kayle's grandparents as repeatedly over the following month to see or at least speak to their granddaughter but Casey claimed each and every time that she was too busy with work and that Kaye was with a nanny who went by the name zenid Fernandez Gonzalez or zany for short on July 15th exactly 6 weeks after Kaye was last seen by her grandparents George Anthony received a phone call that the family car was at the impound locked this immediately alerted suspicion as it was the same car Casey had supposedly been traveling with for work suspicion turned into Panic once they picked up the vehicle and George discovered a strong odor emanating from the trunk one that he recognized from his ears as a police officer and found comparable to that of human decomposition through contacting one of Casey's friends her parents managed to track her down at her boyfriend's house in Orlando where they were found smoking marijuana and watching TV when inquired over the whereabouts of her daughter Casey stated that she had been kidnapped 31 days before by the supposed babysitter it was at that moment Cindy Anthony called 911 911 what's your who has her do you have a name her name is Zena Fernandez Gonzalez who is that babysitter she she's been my nanny for about a year and a half almost two years why are you calling now why didn't you call 31 days ago yeah I've been looking for her and have gone through other resources to try to find her which is stupid what I think the officers are here the officers are there yes now let's indulge in the world of fantasy for just a moment and pretend all of what Casey had just stated was true she had indeed been working and her daughter was in fact kidnapped by the babysitter a month earlier the immediate premise most would gather would be that Casey had no guys who would ever believe this lie it let on jury but any any normal human any anybody at all regard for her daughter whatsoever 911 call there was no urgency nor concern in her voice and rather than her volunteering information which most parents would do in a frantic manner it had to be acquired by the dispatcher through repeated Inquisition all you have to do is compare Casey's dialogue to that of her mother's in the same phone call one was indifferent while the other was distraught police would have picked up on this immediately even without the bizarre phone call the circumstances alone would make Casey the prime suspect in her daughter's disappearance she was immediately interviewed as a witness which unbeknownst to her was the detective's first step in locking her into as many lies as possible day right now is July 16th 2008 the time right now is 04 11 hours I'm detective melish with the Orange County Sheriff's Office I am with Casey Anthony is that correct yes Casey you understand this is being recorded yes wait a minute wait a minute her lie was dumb already and then she thought that she she thought that they bought it and enough that Casey I got a call here in missing child you took Casey to a babysitter's house yes and who was this babysitter her name is zenida Fernandez Gonzalez okay how long had you known zenida almost four years it'll be four years Christmas this year and where did you meet her who did you meet her through a mutual friend his name is Jeffrey Michael Hopkins I met him at Nickelodeon Universal and I met her through him she was his son everybody has three names does Jeffrey still work at Universal no he does not how long has it been since he left about 9 10 months give or take he moved up to North Carolina for a short time and moved down to Jacksonville within the last three months how would you characterize your relationship with Miss Anthony more or less acquaintances weren't very good friends not very good friends did did you ever work at Universal Studios I did when did you work at Universal Studios approximately 2002 how long did you work there for one year did you ever work there at the same time that Casey Anthony worked there I don't think so you don't recall ever seeing her there never did you ever introduce Casey Anthony to a woman by the name of zenid Gonzalez I did not did you ever use zenid Gonzalez as as a nanny no sir do you have any children no sir uh have you lived in the Orlando area consistently since 2002 yes sir have you ever lived in Jacksonville no sir have you ever lived in North Carolina no sir did you see Casey Anthony in the month of June of 2008 no sir when was the last time you spoke with him about a week and a half ago do you know telephone I can find a number for him I don't know a number off hand no I do not Ted the whole of lies from him his son Zack Hopkins I guess J used to watch over Zach yes and when did she start watching over your child it's been within the last year and a half two years that she started watching Kaye how would you normally drop off or how would you normally do the exchange with your child in would you drop the child off would she meet you somewhere I would usually drop her off for a few months we would go over to Jeff's house he lived over in Avalon Park and you would go to Jeff's house why to drop off Kaye that's where Zena would go to watch of the kids it was in a nice centralized area he had a decent size house it was good room for the two of them go back to your statement you dropped off Kaye June 9th and walk me through you dropped off work M okay get off of work wait you trying to say she she drop off her child like for months I got off of work left Universal driving back to pick up Kaye like a nor once no okay and I show up to the apartment knock on the door nobody answers so I calls night the cell phone and it's out of service I didn't really want to come home I wasn't sure what I'd say about not knowing where Kaye was still hoping that I would get a call or you know find out that Kaylee was coming back so that I could go get her and going to my boyfriend Anthony's house who lives in Sut place did you talk to Anthony about U what happened with kayy no I do not can you talk to anyone about Kaye about your incident with Kaye or the fact that she's missing a couple people a couple mutual friends who did you talk to about um I talked to Jeff Jeffrey Hopkins M I talked to Juliet Lewis she's one of my co-workers at Universal she works you still work at Universal yes what the what do you do at Universal I'm an event coordinator okay what is Juliet what position is she where she work she's also an event coordinator we work in the same Department Juliet Lewis doesn't exist Casey had briefly worked at Universal but hadn't been employed there for over 2 years prior to this interview and she wasn't an event coordinator she stood behind a kiosk and sold photos of people after they had been on the Incredible Hulk ride you have a number for Juliet off hand I can't think of one is she in your sim card no she's not some of the more recent numbers her number justang she just moved back up north she within the last two months has finished moving to yor actual her apartment so Julet doesn't work at Universal no she does not what's the reason um I asked you this before and I'll ask you for the record what's the reason you didn't call the police before I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself which obviously I couldn't and I was scared that something would happen to her if I did notify the authorities or got the media involved okay nobody believes that unnown fear of the potential of Kaye getting hurt of not seeing my daughter again I asked you this is beon and ask you before we went on tape and I'll ask you again just to make sure we're clear is there anything about this story that you're telling me is UN true or is there anything that you want to change or divert from what you've already told me no sir did you cause any injury to your child Kaye no sir did you hurt Kaye or leave her somewhere and you're worried that if we find that out that people going to look at you a wrong way no sir you're tell zenid took your child without your permission and hasn't returned her she the last person that I've seen with my daughter yes is she Puerto Rican is she Dominican is she white She's mixed she's black and Puerto Rican is there any underlying cause to why zenida would have taken your child nothing that she ever make any statements to you about only how much she loves Kaye and how great of a kid she is and when you talk to Jeffrey afterwards I'm assuming that Jeffrey's child is still with him his child is still with him you said Zen had family up in uh New England up in New York or something yes she has family down south her mother and her sister um her brother's in New York why she spamming lies though grew up there the police it doesn't make any sense of Florida zenida The Nanny doesn't exist Casey never had a babysit being the retrospective viewer we have the benefit of knowing these are outright Fabrications and these meticulous details are a textbook sign of a pathological liar she speaks eloquently and naturally as if her dialogue is a reflex response to the questions she's being asked when in reality each of these Minor Details are calculated and deliberately placed for the purpose of deception and the nonchalant easygoing tone she employs is used to camouflage anxiety Casey has not only become accustomed to manipulation she has become extremely skilled in how to use it effectively it takes us to the concept of nurture and how it most likely had a significant impact under current circumstances if we go through what we know about Casey's domestic history there are numerous occasions where she had gotten away with things that most would not simply due to the fact that she was able to continuously lie without conscience a prime example could be when she was 18 years old and stopped attending class Midway through her senior year she literally skipped the entire second half of her final year to go hang out with her older boyfriend her parents became suspicious on several occasions yet each and every time Casey had some Whimsical excuse to which she was given the benefit of the doubt then just days before graduation her parents were informed by the school of her treny and that she would not be graduating when confronted Casey's excuse was that her timetable was mixed up by the school causing her to miss classes through no fault of her own this is obviously a completely baffling excuse that no sane person would ever believe yet whether it be through denial or an overprotective nature Casey's parents not only took her at her word but even shielded her from the consequences of her actions they lied to all their family friends that she graduated with honors and even threw her an extravagant graduation party the day after this is just one of the many occurrences where Casey faced no ramifications for misconduct it seemed to give her the belief that no matter what she did as long as she could spin one lie after another or at least drag a lie out for as long as possible everything would work itself out the truth is that everything did work itself out when she was dealing with her parents and she evidently thought the same rules applied with regard to National Law and a missing child's investigation after the initial statement you just heard Casey was asked if she could take police to all places of interest she happily obliged and then proceeded to lead them to a multitude of fake addresses which she had nothing to do with she then took them to her supposed office at Universal Studios because all those would be verifiable like why would anybody lie about that are verifiable it doesn't make any sense though and literally LED three senior investigators to the very end of the building taking over 25 minutes to walk to before she finally it's like oh I live here uh no you don't it's this person okay it doesn't exist oh that that that's her cell phone it it's not connected like they turned around put her hands in her back pockets laughed and admitted that she didn't work there completely dumbfounded the detectives placed her under arrest and took talk to before she finally turned around put her hands in her back pocket laughed and admitted that she didn't work there completely dumbfounded the detectives placed her under arrest and took her to a conference room in the building for what was essentially an interrogation since I left you this morning I've gone to every address that you've told me I came over here I've already talked to all the employees M I found out all these names that you're giving me are people that either never worked here or have been fired here for a long time ago okay so where we are right now is in a position that doesn't look very good for you cuz obviously I know and you know that everything you told me is lie correct not everything that I told you pretty much everything that you've told me including where Kaye is right now that I still I don't know where she is sure you do and here here let me let me explain something looking at you I know that everything that you've told me is a lie I very confident just by having talked to you a short period of time that you know where she is I legitimately have not seen my daughter in 5 weeks I didn't let anything happen to her except I trusted her with somebody somebody that had been taking care of her that had been Tak good care of her someone that she was comfortable with that I was comfortable about what about Jeff you said Jeff worked here about till about two months ago no he hasn't worked here for quite a while 10 months how long it's been at least 10 months okay he got fired in 2002 he hasn't been an employe here since 2002 we' put a lot more together than I think you realize we put together my question to you is we're in this office because our purpose in coming here was to do what she's six years I'm trying to think of places where I know she's been you're not answering my question do you want us to help find your daughter do want you well good starting point would be to answer the questions okay if I say you we're here because and then you just ignore that like I never asked it and go off in some other direction is that answering the question no okay let's go through this again we're here because because I lied because I brought you up here and honestly it was reaching for stop I want you to tell me how lying to us is going to help us find your daughter it's not going to well then if the main thing you want to do is find your daughter and you don't think lying to us is going to help us find her why would you do that because I'm scared and I'm I know I'm running out of options it's been a month what are you scared of I'm scared of not seeing my daughter ever again I'm a parent too I would have been beside myself I I would have called the police immediately and that's the part that I just don't understand we we got so many res we could help on day one you didn't know what to do I didn't know what to do at that point I'm thinking okay they have haven't been gone that long maybe I can find them maybe I can track them down we're not stupid okay and what you're doing right now is you're you're treating us like we're stupid everything is coming out of your mouth is a lie everything either you gave Kaye to someone and you don't want anyone to find out because you think you're a bad mom or something happened to Kaye and Kay's buried somewhere or in a trash can somewhere and you had something to do with it either way right now it's not a very pretty picture to be painting you're painting yourself as a very bad person it needs to end the truthful thing is that I have not seen my daughter the last time that I saw her was on the 9th of June remember we had those two people that we were talking about a person who had an accident and a person who's just a cold blooded callous monster that's telling me that you are the second person this cold blooded callous monster who doesn't care and doesn't want to help because she's afraid happen that everyone's going to look at her and say she's a monster she deserves to go away she deserves never see the light of day this bad things should happen to her I don't want to believe that right now but you're going giving me no choice tell us what happened to Kaye tell us what happened to Kay dropped off Kaye and that's the last time that I've seen her I dropped her where did you drop her off I dropped her off at that apartment no you didn't that's exactly where I dropped her off you did you just think that one day she's just going to show up at your house no I sat around yesterday trying to figure out what to do I'm glad after seeing my mom that all of that stuff happened happened for a reason because you're glad you saw your mom you could have saw your mom five week ago said Mom know I saw my mom's reaction right off the bat and it would have been the same from the get-go so wait a minute you're more afraid of your mom's reaction than you are if you ever see your daughter again no I'm absolutely petrified absolutely petrified I know my mom will never forgive me I'm never going to forgive myself is it that there's some other thing more important in your life right now that you just weren't really focused on what you were saying when you told us so yeah kind of just accidentally told us she had an office here and we needed to be here or did you purposely mislead it is what of those two is it I purposely misled okay so you purposely misled us this was all an attempt to help find your daughter right that makes sense do you Cor in a back sort of way yes a backward s I'm coming back to places that are familiar to me that I know are familiar to her familiar situations that may just maybe help she would have done that 5 weeks ago you think she's going to take a cab here I mean how do you think she's going to get here because she's with someone else she's with someone else who's hid her from you for 5 weeks yes why would a person who has hid your daughter from you for 5 weeks okay bring her to the building that you used to work at I don't know what else to do anymore if I knew where she was if something happened I would have admitted that do you think do you think do you believe thinking up more lies to tell us will help us she's is with someone that I absolutely do not trust and that I'm absolutely scared that that you don't trust yet was babysitting in your daughter for you I don't trust her now because of what happened who did you call first yeah no [ __ ] you go to for help first this is somea no one oh no one okay all right okay well I'm glad we got that straight out Casey was then taken to the county jail where she in the evening hours was able to make a phone call and just happened to see her mother on the local news moments before speaking to her casy mom hey I just saw your nice little came on TV which one what do you mean which one which one I did four different ones and I don't know I haven't seen them all I've only seen one or two so far you don't know what my involvement is and stuff casy mom what no she's not going to gas her right you you're not telling me where she's at because I don't know where she's at are you kidding me casy don't waste your call and holler at me waste my call sitting in the jail who's fault is you're sitting in the jail you're blaming me that you're sitting in the jail blame yourself for telling lies you mean it's not your fault what do you mean it's not your fault sweetheart if you to call them the truth and not lied about everything they wouldn't do me a favor just tell me what Tony's number is I don't want to talk to you I'm actually pleasantly surprised that the mom is kind of going hard I don't know what's how the story is going to end or how the mom was going to be when her involvement but the fact the fact that that that that she cares so much about you know human life and and the baby that that she's going to go like that it's she kind of rolling her this number um we'll get it from Lee because I know Lee's at the house get Tony's number for me hey hey can you give me Tony's number I can do that I don't know what real good it's going to do at this point well I'd like to talk to him anyway okay because I called to talk to my mother and it's waste oh by the way I don't want any of you coming up here when I have have my first hearing for Bond and everything else like don't even waste your time coming up here you're making it real tough for anybody to want to try to I'm not going around and around with you that's pretty pointless Christina would love to talk to you cuz she thinks that you will tell her what's going on frankly we're gonna find out everything if I knew where Kaye was do you think any of this would be happening no anyway you only got a couple minutes for this so I'm not going to let you completely wasted here's Christina she think she can get no no I I want Tony's number I'm not talking to anybody else H hi I'm glad everybody's at my house do me a favor get my brother back because I need Tony's number do do Tony have anything to do with Kaye no nothing okay so why do you want to talk to Tony he's my boyfriend and I would actually try to sit and talk to him because I didn't get a chance to talk to him earlier because I got arrested on whim today I just a little bit ofy you have to tell me if you know anything about Kaye Happ casy I'll die you understand I'll die if anything happens to that baby oh my God calling you guys waste Jesus appeared in the court the next morning and was initially denied bail by the judge reason as her undeniable disregard for the welfare of her own child she was kept in protective custody and it would be 9 days until she received her first visit from her parents this is so weird hi sweetie we've been we've been watching you for so long you have't I love you I love you too hi we've been seeing you sitting down we we forgive anything that you've said oh done hold on can we turn the volume down yeah you can probably hear it my head get exp what's that T-shirt I didn't get a chance to ask him you know other than things pictures on the back is it can Dad show me the shirt turn around so you she can see it's the Hope never lose Hope Foundation do you see it I can see it yeah have you seen me sorry what's up do you want some of the chicken terak that we had last night or do you want tun sandwich or chicken nuggets chicken nuggets thank you then it has the information on how to contact okay Casey you don't realize the whole United States is looking for Kaye they're baiting her right her cover is gonna be on People magazine in a few days okay with a readership of over 46 million adults in America having your missing child on the front cover of People magazine would seem as a godsend to most yet Casey's response is almost as if it's a lost cause everybody is looking for her good everybody is looking for her are we going to be able to find or do you think I hope we can Mom now I didn't get a chance to ask Lee um can you look up a little bit more raise your eyes up a little bit there you go so now look straight up so I can look into your eyes darling thank you I need you know I need to do that it's okay to cry Casey it's all right love we've all been crying setting aside morality and ethics for just a moment Casey at this point would be emotionally exhausted she had been sitting in an isolated jail cell for almost 2 weeks as the entire world was turning against her anyone in her position guilty or otherwise would be at near breaking point and her composed exterior now finally slips she for a brief moment allows herself to be vulnerable and for perhaps the first time expresses the pain of her situation this is one of the few moments where Casey's true self is on display of itself it's a touching moment between a mother and daughter yet if we add in the the context of the surrounding elements she is only expressing this pain for herself just a moment ago when she saw her deceased daughter's face on her father's shirt none of this emotion came out Casey I want to ask you just a couple questions good the rest of the visit is extremely bizarre Casey's Parents try to extract any information they can about kayle's possible whereabouts and each time are essentially dismissed by Casey as if they're asking pointless and irritating questions do we have any pictures of Al and I already talked about this I don't know it could be on the disc at home I don't know what is your I can't get into your um I gave Lee everything already I gave Lee all of the passwords everything we could possibly I want to get over again I want to get some video clips off Kaylee because the video clip with Grandpa is really helping people p still pictures don't show no they don't her personality right and we need to show her personality so I need to make sure we get that password yeah I gave Lee the password please look up sweetheart I need to see your eyes I want to be able to look at you guys too I can't look at you and look at the camera well you don't have to look at the camera look at me I'm looking at you okay you're sitting very low I know the exchange switches back and forth from inquisitive and challenging to sympathetic and loving and every time her parents stop inquiring over the case and show that they still care about Casey herself is when the tear come out do you want to speak to your father now sure okay hey gorgeous how you doing I look like hell well you know something you you really need to keep your spirit high for all this I have I haven't been crying while I've been in here trying to read books and do other things to keep my mind off of stuff well you know I want to be able to reach out and hug you and give you the the you know the big the big papa Joe hug but you know I I we got to get that little girl back any way we can and we're doing everything we can my only concern I gave Le a statement I want him to speak to whoever in the media give them a statement specifically from me next feeling about this this is kind of tough though every time Casey's parents mention that people are willing to help with a search Casey dismisses their credibility and even attack there's just so much in here D I I I think it's impossible to analyze there's just so much depth in here there's no Shar while she's at it Tera Tera from Michigan why because Mark psycho exwife Tera yes listen people like Tera people like Jesse who are maybe no like the parents guys guys it's still their daughter okay I you know but then but it's like okay do they do they resent her do they know are they extracting information are they showing compassion because it gets to their goal or because it's genuine are are they do they have mixed feelings are they SPL half like there's a lot of depth here man it's it's tough man I hope even Christina God bless her don't know what the hell they're talking about I want you know I want to take your pain away from you so you can tell me anything I know that Dad I miss you sweetie I know that I miss you too I said they're half better dad and better Grandpa you know you've been a great dad and you've been the best grandfather don't for a second think otherwise well you know you and Mom have been the best grandparents Kay's been so lucky Kaye is so lucky to have both of you you I can't even put into words how glad I am that she's had both of you and that she still has both of you you know it goes without saying you know that our our house is empty without both of you there it's empty all the little things we took for granted we miss them so so much that's exactly how I feel all your little things and all her little things just it hurts we're not we're not there mom and I are just going through the motions you know guys you not notice chat they all do it the they never cry when it's when things are bad whatever and when they uh they about like uh whatever about all the things that are going whenever they think about the consequences they start crying and then they use the crying to load all the [ __ ] and they think that they should be they should be crying about they just [ __ ] load it all in there and they get it out while they're crying it's just they they all do it though all of them you probably eat a lot of things you never used to eat before because when you're hungry you'll eat I hated Bal I've been eating baloney and cheese on occasion grits I [ __ ] disgusting grits at all it's terrible well you know what you're going to eat what's in front of you we get another Glimpse at Casey's skill in fabricating information and her ability to intertwine specific details to afford her lives some credibility these minor intricacies are what would make her extremely convincing if we didn't happen to know otherwise they never searched by her full name they searched by Zena Fernandez where Zena gonzale Never by her full name and it's z n z n a i a I don't think she has a middle name there was never middle name on anything that I remember seeing and I know she went by both last names she always has since she was younger since her mom remarried so Flora is gon and you don't know what her step fernandz Gonzalez you don't know it Fernandez Gonzalez I think her her dad's first name is Victor her stepdad or that could be her real dad but I remember her saying Victor Victor and Gloria are her parents Victor and Gloria are her parents but they're separated or divorced they are as of now yeah that was her step but I know she has a lot of money that's where she got the car from I only get one or two um phone calls a day that you know that are not nice phone calls but I get many many many phone calls and many people reaching out that just believe in you in US finding Kay baiting everybody so keep your head up high but if you think of anything that could help don't be afraid oh I won't hesitate to let you guys know you have to keep think positive positive feelings Casey oh I know I have been I've been staying as positive as I can but do you think after this long she'd still be local there's a possibility what's Your Gut telling you right now yeah she's a sick sick person tell she's okay okay and your gut tells you that she's close or some she's she's I don't want to have a think about the parents I feel like people are going to get mad from one way or another in chat whatever feel it this was perhaps the first time Casey told the truth when speaking of her daughter's whereabouts as she indeed wasn't that far away her attorney Jose bz eventually met managed to get her bail and Casey was fitted with an electronic monitoring device and released on August 21st she had spent just over 1 month in custody 2 months later police were granted permission to arrest Casey on the charge of first-degree murder she was taken in for interrogation but immediately requested her right to counsel she was kept in the interview room while awaiting her attorney and the released footage of that period is so bizarre to the point where it's almost comical the detectives give off a passive yet glaringly obvious vibe that lets Casey know exactly what they think being that she is guilty of her daughter's probable death and a fundamentally terrible human being on every imaginable level Casey's response to this is to essentially ignore it and act as if the discourse between them and the situation itself is an everyday occurrence one that perhaps doesn't the dis of her daughter for which she is being charged for you'll notice that she effortlessly maintains the same confident and talkative disposition that she had in her previous interviews with police it's almost surreal to watch given the circumstance and the visual element adds an entire new level to the absurdity the first segment of footage shows the arresting officer waiting with Casey for the lead investigator to arrive he initiates the conversation by bringing up the subject of Casey's parents he asserts that he's worried about them but the actual message he's putting across is that he essentially knows Casey is guilty and that she isn't fooling anyone it's an indirect yet obvious accusation I was afraid that some of what I said to them probably offended them because I told them that if I find out something that you don't want to hear I'm going to tell you anyone well honestly they'll respect that that's just you know the type of people that they are on the same way I know I know they are it was never my intention to piss anybody in your family off you know I'm not in it to get a conviction I get nothing out of it I get zero exactly you have a job here trying to do i' I found a few and i' found a few and it sucks both ways yeah I agree so okay it is what it is where I get side sideways with people tends to be when attorneys get involved I've heard most people say that they don't like attorneys very much I have I have many family members at their attorneys I have no problems with attorneys what I have problems with are are at some point mhm we have to set aside the rules and we have to find kids and you know what so be it that's why I told you in the car you know if you tell me anything now yeah I'll get up and say yep I heard it and she'd already invoked and we can't use any of it that's just the way it is that's all that matters to me yeah the detective here has essentially just asked Casey for the information he knows she has about her missing child rather than retaliate and refute the blatant accusation Casey continues with her sharp responses of accordance as if to say she agrees and knows exactly where the detective is coming from yet although she apparently agrees she offers no information or follow-up dialogue thereafter it's so incredibly awkward yet equally intriguing to watch and uh you know when we did did the another case that I was involved in you know they they lost a confession and I sat there and I looked right at the guys that we worked with I said that's not what's who cares we found her we found her and he's going to get what is coming to him that's not my job MH you know and and it works out in the end and it works out in the end on all sides to be honest with you it may not be comfortable for everybody yeah and there I've done things okay I get caught for I'm not going to be comfortable I can tell you that it's just the way life is you know but it's not the end of the road either and that's what we have to keep in mind it's not the end of the road Casey then casually brings it's such a wed to zero him saying like that he would put aside the rules to just find just find them and her say with her story that she never should never call them up the topic grand jury and the media surrounding her Murder She raises the questions as if she's talking about her favorite daytime TV show but but if the subpoena itself is just a regular Federal grand jury subpoena that's public records it doesn't say what it's for it doesn't say what case it's in it doesn't it just says you're subpoena to appear before the grand jury well with them announcing that you know there was going to be and obviously my name was thrown out they knew who the grand jury was for who threw your name out all the media said that it was from an inside source meaning in here so that's where they all say is I can tell you what I think of the media and what I think of people who leaks up to the media I think it's garbage yeah I agree that's the does that doesn't make it any less necessary without them I'll be quite honest without the media we don't find a quarter of the kids that we oh it helps the exposure has helped bring in so many tips for my daughter but at the same time what it what it creates is it creates a monster that otherwise isn't necessary exactly uh the tips are what the tips are mhm if it was a local media only mhm it would be much easier to work yeah when you make it the national media then you come up with you get the Nancy Graces well you get the well you get the tips also that come from Hawaii that say I saw Kaye oh really okay let me call Hawaii let me send them out do are a little bit I consider local because the local stations are going to cover that that's that's contiguous to the State of Florida it's not when people are only getting their information from the Nancy or from Globe magazine or people or you know stuff like that D she she sounds deluded she I think she thinks she's good and she's going to get out all right we're going to call him on my cell phone okay I know this is oh y that's not good well in other she she thinks she's convinced that this is going to help me almost honestly they're look at her they're banging the [ __ ] out of her thanks for entertaining us just SL your hand go Ed actually if I could I would have done that for you do you know bu has his phone number off top of your head no I do not how how get the sell number or his number um I know his office number what is that 407 I've identified myself you know one you're in custody yes um and you have you signed this you want your attorney president yes hey it's Casey um I'm with corpal corpal so far the only one who has had an attorney in all those videos Department if you'd like to come down and meet with us thank you yes to answer your other question um from that picture I cut my hair it was really short even last year I just started growing it back out this year so just about that okay it's been a long day it has been how was my dad this morning um in our time yeah all I only saw from the media and got a chance to hear him talking to my mom I spoke to him last night and this morning for just a quick second before he left so yeah I talked to him this morning for a little bit U he was with Mark and you know he was really struggling I mean I can imagine he was having a hard time uh Jus you know he was being called in to to essentially provide testimony to indict you at least and he was really struggling with that yeah and uh everybody struggling more than she is this so weird I did no I hav't told him last night I know he was subpena and under the law he had to answer whatever questions were asked him and I told him to do what he had to do imagine you were Casey but void of any wrongdoing whatsoever your daughter was kidnapped 5 weeks ago and now a detective who thinks you're the culprit is relaying the agonizing moments of your father providing information for your arrest no matter how stoic or self-controlled your nature you you would most likely be in tears or completely enraged at the overwhelming unjustness of the situation you anxious about today at all um I no no but you know what this is actually good she already showed that earlier remember she had the phone call and how she was she was mad at him for beginning involved oh yeah I saw your little C on camera that's how she really feels and she's now she's she trying to remove that that weird anger and and show them that you know oh yeah I'm calm about this but she's not I mean this is something honestly she sh this for from the beginning just because of words that were directly spoken from Yuri Mich and also from Sergeant Allen they were saying that this is what they were planning on doing from the very beginning from that first day so they wrote me off within the first couple hours that was the only time they ever made any effort to try to talk to me one onone and no it was kind of difficult it was kind of difficult considering considering um obviously in light of everything that's going on and the fact that you've been arrested for other things makes it a little more difficult to sit down and even talk to you mhm not that we haven't wanted to yeah but I do have counsel and that's something that you know my attorney has always been a phone call away has your attorney ever told you that we would like to speak to you and we had agreed him and I together that we would all sit down together him and I and you guys and you know we' entertain whatever questions you have and there is no possible way that a defense attorney would actually sit down and as Casey States entertain any question the police have for them we weren paying close attention we would take her at her word due to the eloquence of her dialogue and not realize everything she's saying is complete nonsense I actually thought that we made it pretty clear that you know we wanted to talk to you I mean obviously we can't come to you and ask you yeah understandably you know I thought that you were aware that if you wanted to talk to anybody that all you got to do was simply ask yeah well I know it goes both ways on that and I guess it would have need needed to come from me I should have been the one to I guess no it doesn't you know we did open up that doesn't go both ways to law enforcement before when Sergeant Allen was making a big deal saying well we want to talk to her when can we talk to her he's saying well the door's open I don't believe he ever told us the doors open what's fascinating is how instinctive and confident her assertions are in any other circumstance or even without the knowledge we have now you would have no reason not to believe everything she's saying I've heard the words come out of his mouth even myself directed to other people that maybe didn't either relay the message or took it a different way so I don't know I think the lack of communication has put people in why is she telling her law the bus Corners when everybody has the same goal is to find Kaye we all still feel I as a mom I know in my gut there's the feeling as a parent you know certain things about your child you can feel that connection and H I still have that feeling that presence I know that she's alive whether you have a bucket load of evidence downstairs that contradicts that and says otherwise or all you have is speculation or or nothing at all I mean we have more than speculation there was every tip and every Le follow directly yeah that we have more than speculation we have a lot now she was fishing at this point mhm I I feel like she was fing for information even that a high cost just just to reassure herself a lot and feel better this was essentially a direct confrontation the detective has just told Casey they have sufficient evidence to prove her guilt Casey doesn't refute or even respond to the accusation she instead falls back to her ridiculous dialogue once again hoping the confidence in her voice will mask the absurdity of what she's actually saying well I said I said the same thing to them that you know they said we're at the end of a hallway and I'm thinking we're at the end of a hallway and there's two doors which door are we going to go through or I guess this is you know we're at this point and we are at this point we're the final step is which door is walked through we are well beyond where we were before mhm I mean those those issues are gone okay and when they refer to we at the end of the hallway I think you you were well aware of what hallway we're talking about do you understand that um well so there's no question I guess you can specify that at this point or what your perspective is on that you have a seconds absolutely can we come here P yeah that's fine you plan on running off not going anywhere I got to stretch out a little bit I'm not as young as I used to be it's unfortunate that right when the pressure was starting to build the second detective interrupts The Exchange and they both leave the room soon after Casey Waits alone for roughly 40 minutes before her attorney shows up he's going to ask you a question you don't say anything else other than the answer okay Casey based on our conversation today and I read you that form basic just same thing I said to Mr Bas over the phone if there's been numerous requests or requests or opportunities request for opportunities to speak with us and come to resolution here that's why we brought you here instead of the jail correct yes okay now based on your request for us to call him and bring him here he's here so what we're going to try to do is give you a few minutes somewhere that's not recorded no secrets I told you this room's resorted I have to be able to approach my chain and explain why the detective now guilefully takes Casey up on her previous offer where she insisted they were willing to sit down with police and answer questions but first I needed you to tell him in your own words if you will that you'd like to take the opportunity to deal with us like you've made that request in the past oh come on is that something you want to tell him I told him the same thing we know for a fact they would never go for any questions that they have we would listen and discuss it and if we have something to respond we'll respond okay do you want to speak to me in private yes so we can clarify this yes it would come as no surprise that no conference was to be had Casey was instead taken to the county jail where she would remain for 2 and 1/2 years awaiting trial once this footage was released to the public domain the consensus was that Casey at best was a c old hearted mother and at worst a hideous despicable murderer but what's Curious is that although these opinions may be accurate they came from a completely misguided notion being that her behavior in the footage was entirely genuine Casey was in all likelihood being completely fake this entire time so you might be curious as to why a person would actually fake such a poised temperament when it would be far more fitting to fake sadness and despair we all have aspects to ourselves that are ungenuine to a certain degree how we act at a business the way we are at home with our close friends or family the more comfortable the setting the more we can be ourselves those educated on Casey's past would assert that she was rarely sad rarely angry but always this bubbly and agreeable personality even when it didn't suit the situation she was one of those people where something just seemed off but you couldn't quite put your finger on it the evidence fing suggest Casey was fake in every single setting and with every single person all of the time a trait that might unnoticed in everyday life yet would clearly stand out when shown under the microscope of a criminal case study Casey had become so accustomed to this fraudulent way of being that it even came as a natural behavior to her in the extraordinary setting we see here and the assertion is that because Casey knew just how well she could fabricate this character she thought she could use it to mask her anxiety and thus conceal guilty Behavior Casey in all likelihood had little I feel like at the same time an elaborate emotion to to maintain for such a long time is way harder yeah it's more fitting but it's way [ __ ] harder to no regard for that's not even an argument anymore but her true temperament here would likely be far more apprehensive due to the concern over her own welfare every time the detective insinuated an accusation Casey kept the same tone same demeanor and same confident light-hearted disposition if you took her out of this interrogative setting and placed her in the mall with her friends it would seem completely normal she would be faking her personality in both environments yet we are only able to realize it in one this type of mindset is linked to sociopathy whatever the situation or circumstance they need to have an advantage over you so how do they do this they lie and also calculate how they are going to feel and react to a certain situation before it occurs the entirety of her focus on making herself look good rather than being worried about the actual quality of her character Casey in a nutshell was an inauthentic person long before she ever gave birth to her ill-fated daughter and her skill at Deception alongside her manufactured personality is arguably the most terrifying part of this entire case on December 11th 2008 just under 5 months since she was reported missing kayle's skeletal remains were discovered in a swamp less than a mile away from the Anthony household she was wrapped in a Winnie the Pooh blanket and then placed in a canvas laundry bag duct tape was discovered around the nose and mouth area of the skull and her death was ruled a homicide prosecutors in the case then announced they would be seeking the death penalty there were a multitude of discoveries made in the leadup to the trial and many believed it to be an open and shut case due to the damnatory nature of the evidence on the last day Kaylee was seen Alive by anyone other than her mother and the day many believe she was murdered Casey Anthony made the following internet searches at 7:54 p.m. that same evening Casey and her boyfriend Tony were seen in a Blockbuster Video Store Kaye was nowhere in sight and many presumed she was already dead and decomposing in Casey's trunk at this point in the following weeks Casey went out partying most nights just 3 days after her daughter's supposed abduction she was captured in various photos participating in a hot body contest 12 days after she got a tattoo on her back saying Bella Vita an Italian motto that trans translates beautiful life she also made an entry in her diary around the same time which read I completely trust my own judgment and I knew that I made the right decision this is the happiest that I have been in a very long time I hope that my happiness will continue to grow the trial commenced on May 24th 2011 the gist of the prosecution argu is that suffocated her daughter with duct tape and then placed her in the trunk for a few days before disposing of her body in the swamp the motive for the murder was the primary focus during their opening statement this isn't just a case about Casey Marie Anthony it's a story about Kaylee Anthony as well Kaylee Anthony was born on August 9th of 2005 it was a Tuesday and Kaye lived nearly every day of her life on a quiet residential street in Orlando called Hope Spring dve Casey Anthony kayle's mother appeared to all outward observers to be what her parents thought she was a loving mother working hard to provide support for her daughter but as the evidence in this case and the investigation into the background of Casey Anthony will show that was an illusion on Monday June 16th Cindy Anthony goes to work as I've described sometime between s and 8 a.m. and is out of the house until the late evening George Anthony specifically recalls that at 12:50 p.m. on June 16th of 2008 his daughter Casey left the residence on H Spring Drive with Kaye Marie Anthony Kaye was wearing a pink shirt jean shorts sunglasses and a backpack and JoJo George Anthony kissed his granddaughter goodbye Jesus I never in fact no one but Casey Anthony ever saw Hal Anthony alive push n your head the evidence in this case will establish that there is no other reason for the placement of multiple pieces of duct tape on this child's face mouth and nose other than the specific intent to end that child's life but Casey Anthony had access to all the pieces of evidence in this case the duct tape the laundry bag the blanket the shorts the shirt the car no one else lied to their friends to their family to investigators no one else benefited from the death of Kaye Marie Anthony kayle's death allowed Casey Anthony to live the good life at least for those 31 days although there was a lack of direct physical evidence tying the defendant to to her daughter's death the evidence the state actually had still seemed overwhelming and they understandably thought relying on the facts alone would easily secure a conviction the defense on the other hand were up against it so not only did they use charm and appeal to sway the jury's attention away from the evidence they dropped an absolute bombshell in their opening statements to create as much doubt as humanly possible on behalf of the defense I want to thank you for the sacrifice you've made in your jury service and coming here oh we know it's no easy task and we intend I'm sure both sides on getting you home as quickly as possible once you have all of the information that you need everyone wants to know what happened how in the world can a mother wait 30 days before ever reporting her child missile it's insane it's bizarre something's just not right about that yeah no [ __ ] the answer how is it actually relatively simple she never was missing Kaye Anthony died on June 16th 2018 when she drowned in her family swimming pool well the reason we're all here is because not of the commonality of this tragedy but of the uniqueness of the family that it happened to you will hear about ugly things guys secret I understand it's his job right but did obviously they had they had to fabricate this and she did not fabricate this this story they had to work together to fabricate this right they they had to legitimately fabricate it so if it wasn't him it would have been somebody El but still than things that people don't speak about I don't know I don't know about it never spoke about on June 16th 2008 after Kaye died Casey did what she's been doing all her life or for most of it hiding her pain going into that dark corner and pretending that she does not live in in the situation that she's living in this family must keep its Secrets quiet and it all began when Casey was 8 years old and her father came into her room and began to touch her inappropriately this child at 8 years old learned to lie immediately she could be 13 years old have her father's penis in her mouth and then go to school and play with the other kids as if nothing ever happened that will help you understand why no one knew that her child was dead the trial would go on to last 6 weeks with a prosecution exposing the truly dark and deceptive nature of Casey's character while the state relied on fact the defense clung on to Theory and proposed every conspiracy Under the Sun in the hope they would create enough skepticism and confusion wait wait wait are you are you allowed to do this in other like this like to just throw throw some [ __ ] that that that could be uh argued in court later on or or [ __ ] disproven Court later on that that one of the more noted details of the trial was the courtroom presence of Jose bayz he had an exceptional ability of narrative control and storytelling and his capacity to create a connection with the jury seemed far more adequate than that of the state this was recognized and mentioned multiple times in the media yet the overwhelming majority of those following the case were almost certain that it wouldn't be enough to save the defendant closing arguments were put forward on Sunday the 3rd of July when you have a child that child becomes your life this case is about the clash between that responsibility and the expect that go with it and the life that Casey Anthony wanted to have Casey meets Tony Tony has this life he's free he's a club promoter he's out there at night with the loud music and dancing and it's a great free life so she has a choice a life Tethered to a child or a life free to be 22 and as hard as it is for anyone to imagine the judge she had to choose between two sacrificing two things the first was her dreams in the life she wanted and the second was her child he's busing and we' submit to you the evidence in this case shows these eyelids look heavy as [ __ ] was her child here we are at the end of our journey and I have to tell you that I probably think you have more questions than you have answers and if you recall at opening statements the first the final thing that I told you at the end of the day when everything is said and done the one question will never be answered the key question in this case will never be answered it can never be proven and that is how did Kaylee die I'm going to start with my biggest fear I'm going to tell you right up front what I fear may happen in this case and I want to talk to you about it and explain why I feel that way this case deals with so much emotion I know that there were times where every single person in herey guys I think his is very recurrent y does a a weird almost like a admission of guilt or weird thing just to fold some dog [ __ ] around on top of it he he did it three times already right felt something deep down yeah it's one Liberation what the law is is that this case must not be decided for or against anyone because you feel sorry for anyone or are angry at anyone you'll notice that Mr bayz locks the jury's focus on this while subtly concealing this he presents the argument that the prosecution has purposely got the jury emotionally invested in the case in the hope it would push them towards a guilty verdict yet in this exact same statement he himself is getting them emotionally invested for the exact opposite reason while refuting the prosecution's supposed attempt to entice anger he subtly attempts to evoke empathy say what you want about this attorney in the ethics of his conduct but what you are about to witness is expertly done and what many believe to be what saved Casey Anthony's life what and that's because obviously we want you to base your verdict on the evidence not on emotion and it's my biggest fear because it's such a difficult thing for you to push aside Kaye Anthony was a beautiful sweet innocent child died far too soon there's no doubt about it it and that is not disputed by anyone but to parade her up here to invoke your emotion would be improper well it's improper under the law and it's improper as to the rules of your deliberation well he just that he went on for a great length of time talking about this beautiful child not on his evidence not on the evidence that was presented before you it was to set up the emotion for what was to come and that is exactly how this case was presented you they didn't come right out the gate and show you the evidence they gave you two weeks of testimony that was completely irrelevant and served only one purpose and that was to paint Casey Anthony as a [ __ ] as a party girl as a girl who lies and has absolutely nothing to do with how Kaye died and this prosecution was geared in such a manner that it was deliberate it was methodical it was thorough and it was detailed Mr bayz then focuses on the fact that the state has the burden of proof and thereafter continues to intertwine the two essential features of his argument empathy and doubt don't speculate don't guess it has to be proven to you beyond and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt if you don't know what happened it wasn't proven we don't want you to tell us what you think happened we want you to tell us what was proven happened and that's the difference here because you know what we can go on and speculate all day long as to the different theories that were posed before you as to the different possibilities but the truth of the matter is but but that's all he has though okay could couldn't she prove um all the things like where she where she was what she was doing um why she made those those those Google searches or whatever could I don't get it though they're going off the one thing that can be proven but I feel I there's another thing that that she has to prove is it must be what oh to avoid death penalty there are no Mysteries to solve here there should be no mystery before you right now if you have questions than it was not proven and that's as simple as it goes now back to what I was saying with their initial setup the way the case was presented the first couple weeks you see the strategy behind that is is if you hate her if you think she's a lying no good [ __ ] then you'll start to look at this evidence in a different light you'll start to oh wait a minute maybe I I'm seeing something that's not there and start to actually discriminate against her rather than give her the standard that is afforded to each and every citizen in our country and that is that the state govern come in here and prove their case Beyond and to the exclusion of every Reasonable Doubt but you can get away with that if we can get a jury to hate her but you're here to fulfill an oath you've labored this guyy selling them all kinds of [ __ ] the whole thing and we're going to ask you to render a verdict of not yo dude this guy has every possible kind of [ __ ] in his suitcase and he selling all of it right now and they're buying and they they they're they're buying dude on these charges because they're addicted simp Jesus Christ and they're simply not true for the ninth judicial circuit in in four Orange County Florida State of Florida versus Casey Marie Anthony as to case number 2008 cf1 5 66-0 as to the charge of first-degree murder verdict s to count one we the jury find the defendant not guilty so say we all dated at Orlando Orange County Florida on this 5th day of July 2011 signed for person as to the charge of aggravated child abuse verdict is to count two May the jury find the defendant not guilty so say we all Orlando Orange County Florida this fth day of July July 2011 signed for person as to the charge of aggravated manslaughter of a child verdict is to count three we the jury find the defendant not guilty so say we all dated at Orlando Orange County Florida this fifth day of July 2011 signed for person and J number 12 were these your to incorrect verdicts yes thank you okay will uh Council and the defendant approach to Podium well I hope that this is a lesson to those of you have been indulged in media assassination for three years bias and Prejudice and incompetent Talking Heads saying what would be and how to be uh I'm disgusted by some of the lawyers that have done this and uh I can tell you that my colleagues from Costa coast and border to border have condemned this whole process of lawyers getting on television and talking about cases that they don't know a damn thing about and don't have the experience to back up their words or the law to do it now you've learned a lesson appreciate the jury those of you that have been objective and professional we like it others we're going to be talking to again thank you very much the media they don't learn Kay it's that simple and today our system of justice the the meia doesn't learn or or um oh oh I hope they'll they'll do better it's the opposite they learn how to do it better they learn how to do [ __ ] trash in in a better way by a false conviction what a disaster wait that was a [ __ ] disaster holy [ __ ] dude give me [Music] tonight give me the love tonight

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