World Religions Class: Islam Part 2

so so it gives you more feelings of gratitude and appreciation the socially a social aspect of it it's so nice because in Ramadan we get to get together a lot to talk more to learn more of each other to meet people that we have not seen for a while and we get to break the fast together have meals together pray together and worship together the night time in Ramadan the mosque is packed people until midnight they're praying and worshiping every single day of Ramadan yes are there exceptions to the fasting absolutely I diabetic absolutely so fasting is only prescribed for those who can physically do it so if someone cannot do it for example a pregnant woman Jesus what's the fast right so she has the excuse of breaking the fast someone's diabetic they're not supposed to fast they get the excuse of not fast if the excuse is temporary let's say the woman is pregnant and she cannot fast this year at whenever she's ready she can make up those days let's say I got the flu and I have to take medicine how I got some infection have to take medicine for a week in Ramadan so I did not fast for a week later on when I'm feeling better after I'm alive I can make up that week but if my excuse is permanent I'm diabetic I have heart problems I cannot fast never so for every day I did not fast I'll feed one poor person so 30 days with 30 people that's how it is no one is supposed to fast and they're not able to physically and the fifth one is pilgrimage to ask about it it's called Hajj about once in a lifetime Muslims are required to go take this journey to Mecca and do the pilgrimage or the Hajj and it's like a week worth of rituals and acts of worship American travelers they'll go longer because as far as we'd like to go spend couple of weeks there but in that week millions of Muslims around the world they come together and do certain rituals certain acts of worship follow the footsteps of a ground because ever have is the one who built that place and that bruh how is the one who first went to worship around that place so we follow the visitors of Abraham by doing acts of worship I'm not sure if you've seen pictures this homonyms brave scene girls I'm sure this is what's in Mecca it's called the Kaaba that's what we cite direct our faces when we pray here right when we're talking about direction toward this now this is not God right we don't worship a black box in the desert I've heard that once before that's not this is just a shrine this is like a like a temple built originally built by Adam and then it was destroyed during the flood of Noah and then it was rebuilt again my Abraham and all the rituals that we do are following the visitors of Abraham's rituals if you look at it from the sky it's like three million people around it amazingly three million people doing the same exact thing at the same moment all dressed in white no difference between black or white no difference between rich and poor no difference between a homeless and a millionaire all of them are standing next to each other praying together towards one God it's a lesson of the quality that we get when we go there Malcolm X he was in a very extreme movement of anti white people movement and then when he went to Hajj he found himself praying mixed or white that he said this is beautiful I don't have to hate others because of their color I don't have to have aggression towards other just because of their different than mine and he came back he changes mindset because of that chip so this is this is hajeck so if you cannot afford it financially because it's expensive if you cannot do it physically then you're excused from doing it all right it's only if you can afford it and if you can physically do it did I ask you a question or still all right Muslims are not supposed to worship anyone but God muscles are not supposed to disrespect their parents this is one of the major sins to disrespect attendance in Islam Muslims are not supposed to cheat lies a bagpipe missiles are not supposed to add pride over others or have premarital sexual relationships missus they're not supposed to report drinking alcohol harm the others or themselves or commit suicide now this is the idea but does it mean all Muslims are a lot of our communities commit it is services to achieve anybody some Muslims act do commit acts of terrorism some Muslims do drink alcohol this is the idea that we try our best to be in that way but that's not something that all of us are are committed to it 100% because we're humans and it's expected to have shortcomings and there's a concept in example repentance that if you do something wrong you repent to God and ask for forgiveness any questions very quickly so we have two holidays mainly just like that eastern Christmas we have eaten Ottoman even Twitter little further is the celebration after Ramadan that's the week celebrating 30 days of fasting so we have a feast we need to drink we are parties jumpers kids play around you kids get toys from adults families visit each other it's a fool's operation and the same thing on in Omaha right after the season apart because the season of March I forgot to say it's during certain period of the year right after it Muslims all around the world they celebrate the second need in is festival of sacrifice and we do pretty much again another celebration Muslims receive the teachings from the Quran the holy book and the sayings of Muhammad called the hadith and both of them are credible for source of information for us and examples of the hadith for example the word is very beautiful God has not want us seeking knowledge is obligatory upon every Muslim male and female have you heard about a girl called Malala in Pakistan where she was attacked because you're going to school and people come and say all what kind of what's wrong with Muslims they don't want the girls to learn they want the girls to get education Islam says seek knowledge an obligation upon male and female so that culture thank you very much it's a cultural practice all right you you heard about Muslim women in Saudi Arabia not allowed to drive that's culture I mean Muslims in Turkey Malaysia all over the place women can't drive no problem that's a culture understand all right God would show no compassion on the one who has no compassion towards all humankind God does not look upon your bodies and appearances he looks upon your parts and your deeds we've been in this lab I'll talk a little bit more than it lasted me to come and talk maybe she has anything to add about it and then get to talk a lot about her position and leadership in the Muslim community as well but there are 1.5 1.6 billion Muslims in the world half of them are women the fastest growing religion in America is a slob 70% of people who embrace Islam in America are women it doesn't make sense that women would convert to a religion that mistreats them it doesn't make sense that that many Muslim women around the world will accept the same religion that does not respect them it's an insult to someone like me to tell her Islamist treats women insulting of intelligence telling her why would you stay in a religion that mystery seer oppress you some cultures to a pressroom Islam itself honored women actually Mohammed came with many practices and and and many teachings to fight inequality men came to women it's not says very clearly all humans are equal males and female but they're not similar they are equal in their worship communication and accountability rights and duties in the eyes of the law that's what Islam says they are not similar because women have different abilities than men women can be pregnant women cannot other other aspects of life but they are people they should not be think that one of them women in Islam were given so many rights when there were no rice woman when Islam were given the right to own properties to inherit to own business to choose whom she wants to get their Islamic Lee speaking a woman has to choose whom she wants to get married to she cannot be married to someone she doesn't know what she doesn't like - when I conduct marriage but I do could officiate marriage I have to privately put the bride on the side and tell her are you okay did anyone force you for this if she says yes I was forced I don't want this I cannot officiate I cannot sign the agreement it's not a requirement Muslim women were given the right to hold positions in government I mean we were gonna celebrate last elections that the first woman in America is going to be the president of not celebrate but we gonna make it may be a big news but in Pakistan 1986 the head of the state was a woman in Indonesian for many years even before that the president was born so this is there is nothing in Islam that says women cannot do that the voting when did women in America had the right to vote less than a hundred year almost a year 1500 years ago most of them were given the right to vote you know when you try to imagine the word back in the seventh century Europe there was a discussion and a debate in Europe where the women are humans or demons there actually was a general concept of understanding that women are objects I can offer my daughter in marriage right you've heard that before right if you do this I'll give you my daughter in gay or or if a woman decides to speak up she will be punished have you heard about witch hunting and burning the witches in the middle do you think they were actually witches on brooms flying around it's simply a woman who decide to speak up if pastor Stephanie was speaking up seventh century I don't think right so so in Arabia when a man gets a baby he will look at it if it's a boy he'll keep it if it's a girl he'll bury her alive because girls were shameful for them so Islam came to fight all of that and say that's not acceptable there's nothing nowadays that people people say oh it's not have heard about something called honor killing you know what's honor killing honor killing is when a man decides that his right it's his right to kill his daughter or his sister on his wife but his mother if she commits adultery this has nothing to do this time guess what Christians in the Middle East practices honor killing because it's a cultural thing Hindus in India practice of Honor killing because it's cultural thing you've heard about female genital mutilation you've heard about that this is culture this is an African culture most people who practice are Ethiopian Christians not Muslims this massive against not supposed to do something like this so these are things that that Islam came to promote without a fight without evolution it does still does not agree with extreme feminism an extreme way of putting things our perspective it puts things in a balanced way and that's what Islam looks that one of the amazing things of Prophet Mohammed say the most perfect in territories mislead men is he who is best in mannered and Congress to his wife there are so many sayings of having and in the court and then tells men to take care of their wives to be kind to be merciful to be treated to treat them in the the best way in the best manner Mohammed before he died the last sermon he stood up and he said all men I asked you to take care of it be merciful to the one so what we see nowadays because one day I was given this stock and then a lady stove I said you're lying I've seen what's happened in Afghanistan look what they do say that's culture that's the culture unfortunately there are cultures who are uneducated back ordinate and they treat women in a very unfair and impressive way but that's not Islamic this lab is what this slum teaches not what people necessarily wrong kinds of people practice and that's a minority by the way not all people never understand do that if you we want to compare people to because one day I was watching Oprah and she had an episode about women I don't know if you've seen it she went around the word showing examples of women she went to Portugal Brazil England France Belgium China Japan and although when she showed had so beautiful positive life and they portrayed themselves undercover and then she went to Saudi Arabia and the example of Saudi Arabia is a woman beaten almost to death by her husband she's in the hospital and then at the end she says aren't you happy live in America this is unfair comparison you're telling me there is no domestic violence in America Jenny no husband killed his wife in America before so this kind of comparisons that we would have to compare apples to apples you want to compare women living in dignity in the West Mission compared also a little bit in dignity in other parts of the world and and the same thing - and what being mistreated yes actually actually there okay so she realize a big concept okay the word Sharia means law the word Sharia itself is law so there is Jewish area there's Islamic sharia there's a brahmic Sharia that's how we look at it so the law everything I've told you today is Sharia the fact that we pray five times a day like that education is an obligation the fact that relation between that's all Sharia that's called everything we do in our lives for cheerio what's happening though nowadays in America that there's this fear of Sharia law that Muslims are trying to implement it around and make sure everyone that's impossible first of all there's no way two percent of the population can impose a law on 98 percent of the population number two Sharia law says you have to respect the law of the land that you live in so as Muslims when we look at the law that we have the American law why should with it we like it my religion tells after what I have to stop on the red light I have to renew my license I have to pay my taxes these laws in America Sharia law tells me that I have to follow it what people are scaring people others from what we call it the Penal Code or the the punishment code in Islam and it's a very very small part of the Islamic law that punishes for example severe punishments for murderers rapists and and other kinds of crimes this criminal penalties or Penal Code in Islam is what people are scared of and say all must I want to do that that's nonsense when was the last time you heard about Sharia law will be during election seasons that's when you hear about it once at that time when nominees are going out and start saying almost as on a planchette me Allah let's fight them both were we that's how we get a body sure well my son's been living for years and we've been that's that's ridiculous these are at church everything else I am Telling You this is all painting use this all stuff that people say in Calvin in Minnesota they say in California they're trying to do that they in in Texas they try all about California now applying Sharia law show me one must now yes we would like to see people getting don't not getting away with with with bad things to do but doesn't mean that we're trying to apply Sharia law that's how you ask a Muslim Muslim what I'm telling you you ask them no one is having this conspiracy or that this plot to to impose any Islamic law anymore so that's that's definitely not the case now some people like to have between their own families certain arbitration or mediation they wanted to use the Islamic way of doing things if the law allows it and that's fine if the law does not allow them that's fine like for example in case of divorce divorce in the law if the husband and wife say you know what we want to get a divorce but we want the mediator or the arbitrator to use the Islamic principles to do divorce if they both agree then what's wrong with that now how to project which is but that's their preference that's how arbitration was in America all right maybe you want to jump all right I am getting exhausted so let's we'll see what she likes say I have one couple of more points after Devine and they will go from there good evening everyone again my name is Naveen and it's a pleasure and an honor to be here I thank you very much for having us especially on a weekday so thank you so a little bit about myself I was raised in San Francisco my parents are actually Egyptians who emigrated here in the 60s I came with them as a child about a year old and they settled in San Francisco my brother and I were raised there I attended actually Catholic schools for the majority of my education because Catholic schools my parents were convinced were you know they had at least had values and they would offer us an education that would be religious based if not necessarily the religion that we followed at home and so I grew up very well versed in both the Catholic faith and the Muslim faith I go home in the afternoons and the only thing my dad would ever you know studying with me it would be theology and we'd read what I took in school and he'd say okay this is the Catholic version and then the Muslim version says this so I grew up pretty well versed in both spoke Arabic at home so I was I was blessed to learn a second language fairly good at speaking my reading and writing is not so good I thought we won't tell anyone I tried to tell my kids that I'm better than them but we put our kids in Arabic Sunday schools and also in elementary school so they grew up with the language as well and I have to say they are better than me so but I don't live unto that I'm I have five children by the way all right we have twins that are 25 20 23 I said 25 23 and then our youngest is 17 he'll be graduating high school next month I guess and had my husband gemo as a PICU intensivist and works hard to take care of poor children he gets at the hospital when so growing up I was always taught you know you know girls growing up but always think girls at least in my high school would always think about boys and you know falling in love and getting married and having kids and my mother would always girl in me you get your education first we go to school you have your career and you can think about a husband so this this notion of women empowerment was something that I grew up very much with it was something that was very integral to our family and our extended family so I never had this feeling of you know today when I sit back and I listen to women complain about the lack of equality and having to fight for rights I must say you know despite my Americanism I I feel very confused as to why they have to art fight over this you know because this is something was so ingrained in me growing up so sure enough I had to go to school and get my masters before I got married which I did and you know we got married had three of our children actually was pregnant with my fourth when I decided I was going to go back to graduate school for a PhD and during that time I delivered my baby my mother was in the hospital in need of a heart transplant and I'm looking at her thinking I'm not gonna do this I'm gonna put school on hold for a year and she looks at me and she says you're going to school and that's the end of it and we'll just make everything work and if I'm here I'm here I'm not here nothing's gonna stop you from you know pursue your career so I went back to school with the four kids don't ask me how I did it but I did it a lot of support from my husband my parents my in-laws so we got that through and I'm an adjunct professor of marketing and consumer behavior mostly an Irvine but I've also Todd and Riverside UC Riverside and at Cal State LA enjoyed very much actually on a on the spiritual side the religious side I've always you know I was busy with my kids and school and this and that so never really delved into any leadership roles in my community but recently now that I have more time I was elected to the board of our local mosque I take more of a more of a leadership role I've always always always said interfaith talks ever since I was in my early 20s I would go to synagogues and churches and talk about Islam specifically women and my husband and I after our marriage were also very active in that circuit but this was my first leadership role per se I enjoyed it very much had a two-year tenure and we recently had elections and I'm no longer part of the board but I feel that that's gonna free me to do other work that I'm really looking forward to within the Interfaith community so I go and actually give talks at at a university level I get invited to give talks about women in Islam and I always find it interesting because when I when I bring it up to the students you know I say you know they looked at me a minute well let's let me backtrack my first day as as a professor as a lecturer I walked into class because I had no you know teaching history they couldn't look me up on with my career so I was basically you know an anomaly to everyone who's that who's this new professor that we're going to get kids pay a lot of money to go to school they take out loans I understand they want you know the best for their money so I walked into the lecture hall I had about a hundred students my first class and I can see everyone's face literally dropped I mean I just saw it you know row after row everyone's like oh god who is this I'm sure they were thinking who is this fresh off the boat you know and what is she gonna say when she opens her mouth because I do wear the hijab and the minute I opened my mouth and they saw that I was American they were like okay okay this is this might be okay and over the course of the quarter I just had a wonderful relationship with the students they would come up and ask me questions about my religion about why I was wearing the hijab and so forth and you know I I got a hot chili pepper that that quarter I don't know if you're familiar with it but wouldn't break my professor you know I got a hot chili forum you know what that means I did not know at the time anyway so so I go around and give these talks and typically when I when I start speaking the question that comes up is well you know are you you know are you able to get educated because your parents were just liberal in that way or why isn't that women in let's say a place like Saudi Arabia have to be fully covered or you know when you're out in the regular world you wear a burka when you're in your community I mean you're getting you know questions like that and my my catch phrase for it and I love how you you kept referring to culture and religion but my catch phrase is tradition versus religion okay so there are cultures and traditions that that others have that unfortunately for them supersedes the correct religious practices so again you know I actually have a great presentation for this and I'm sorry I didn't know it was a formal thing with a slideshow but I will make the best of it but typically you know Islam says women are to be educated just like men in fact in the Quran it says that both Adam and Eve sinned okay so it wasn't that you know in I know in the Catholic tradition Eve made Adam take the offer and so therefore that's that's where were the original sin started etc etc in the Quran it's actually Adam and Eve equally sinned and there is no distinction between one having the greater fault versus the other which actually as as a woman makes me feel good because then we're not responsible for the evils in the world they know but so in the Quran and in Islam we are equal or equal in the eyes of God we are equal in how we are supposed to worship we will be judged on how we worship equally as dr. Sakai said you know women gain the right to vote here in the US and in you know in Europe in in the 1920s women in Islam have had this right for 1,500 years the is that the married women Property Act I think that was passed in 1870 that finally allowed married women to own property which they couldn't before it always referred it to their husband once they were married well now you know 1870 comes along and lo and behold women are allowed to own property if she was married well Islam be of women that write 1500 years ago you know we keep arguing for equal pay and you know the Equal Pay Act was passed but in the 60s 1960 I believe we shouldn't have to fight for equal pay and here we are 2019 and women are still not getting paid the same as men again we had that right 1,500 years ago where there is no distinction that should be made between a man and a woman's work you know if if I'm working and making you know getting a salary that doesn't necessarily mean that my husband's gonna take my money in fact the money that I earned is actually my money my personal money and he has no right to it per se you know unless I allow him got money now when he brings his paycheck home guess what it's our wedding and you make good use of that so there's even a principle in Islam that says if oh you know the wife has money and she is willing to part with her money to share with her husband or to help her husband if he's having financial difficulties it's actually considered a type of alms towards her husband so it shows the the it's not to make the husband feel you know bad it's just to show that women are actually elevated and very right in Islam you know we don't wait we can't we're not forced to marry we should not be told who to marry who shouldn't be forced into anything really I mean women in Islam have equal rights now does that mean that it's practiced that way no not necessarily there are fathers there are brothers there are husbands that you know in these misogynistic societies and paternalistic societies that actually will force the women to do things absolutely you know the country like Saudi Arabia that says you know a woman cannot travel on her own and she can have her like 4 year old son traveling with her and that's a male with her but she can't travel alone there's no sense in that or she can't drive a car but it's okay to have a male chauffeur drive her around so it's okay to be in a car with a strange man but it's not okay to drive your own car you know like what sense is that so there are these you know kind of things that make you stop and say hmm but but they are practiced and these more you know I want to say culturally traditional societies again that fear away from the teachings of selves it suits the menís interests to have the wives be more submissive or subservient and we've seen this through throughout history I mean this is nothing new the question that I get most often is you know do you who forced you to wear the hijab for instance and why I do wear the hijab so the hijab is it in the Quran it says you know oh you practicing women you know covering women in Arabia back when when the Prophet Mohammed came and Islam was revealed you know as you see it I mean you've seen listen in many paintings and illustrations very similar to what the Virgin Mary you would see her depicted you know they would wear veils the woman Vail's but they would also walk around you know topless so she's wearing a veil but she's topless or scantily clad and so the Quran at one point started to reveal okay o you who believe take your veils and you know cover your bosoms basically and the interpretation of that you know became while you have to you know cover and be modest in your and your attire when we pray women have to cover their hair cover their arms to their wrists cover their legs to the ankles okay and that is proper dress to pray your face shows your hands show your feet show I'll be honest with you growing up my mother is not veiled my family not really you know it's not something that would practice in our family very much so and I was never a big proponent you know I was always one to dress modestly it was never I was never scantily clad so in my mind I'm thinking you know I'm dressed modestly I'm a good person I practice my religion so I don't cover up my hair what's the big deal I mean that was kind of my train of thought you know up until my late twenties honestly and you go through these spiritual you know awakenings if you will and and I was pregnant with my with my daughter like their child and I realized one day that you know I have to when I get up to pray I have to cover up all these different parts of my body to pray stand in prayer to pray to God and my rationale was well if I have to stand up and pray to God dressed this way I mean does it not make sense then that I should dress this way when I'm out in public you know on once God's creations and that's when I made the decision to actually to actually wear the hijab different cultures will wear it in different ways so you have women Afghanistan wear the burka again that's a cultural thing women in Saudi Arabia will wear like the block abayas with the with the black black is like a color for them it's tradition so every culture you go to Turkey and women are in these colorful scarves and then so it's just every country has its different traditions and cultures practices but you know you you're free to choose to wear it in any way you want provided that it's it's you know the idea behind it is to promote modesty and to to not be objectified which is quite problematic in our society I believe now but but the idea is to actually tone down the objectification of women and to not sexualize them so you know so so that's why I chose to wear it that's my personal reasoning let's see all of it if questions by the way there's anything I'm just trying to think of all the different things that come up in my talks and if anyone's interested you have any question outside it even the the context of women and please feel free to ask also Aslam was very interesting because it's it's I believe the only religion I'm aware of I could I can definitely be wrong where women play a very central role in the foundational history of the religion so the Prophet Muhammad's wife before she passed away was actually older than him so that breaks breaking of gender and cultural norms at the time so she was older she was actually a business woman he was her employee she was very wealthy he was very poor again breaking with the stereotypes and the tradition of the time women in early aslam or jurists they were scholars they were they were in the military they headed the marketplace and so if he headed the marketplace at the time was like being CEO of a company because the marketplace was such an important part of society so they played a vast array of roles within society not really conforming to anything in particular in fact you know typically you think you know the gender roles women have the children and then go out and make the money or and so forth but like I said the prophets wife peace be upon him before she passed away his first wife she was a wealthy businesswoman his his other wife did not have children she couldn't bear children and instead she was a scholar so it's it's it really you know it's unfortunate that we live in a time when there's so much that it's done in the name of SLAM okay so all this terrorism that's done in the name of Islam it's very upsetting of course to us as Muslims because the first thing that we think of when we hear of anything happening in the world is please do not let it be a Muslim I mean that's like the first gut instinct that we have so when Sir langa happened you know I turned on the news saw it and I'm like oh my god there's no way that's gonna be a Muslim like please don't want to be a Muslim still some maniac that did this sure enough that turns out to be a not only that I don't know if you guys heard this but the guy's father the guy that that the bomber his father was the one that actually prepped him to do this so I'm sitting here thinking okay what sick person like let's sick in the mind would actually strap on bombs walk into a place I blow himself and everyone else up I mean that's a sick mind now we turn to what happened in Poway at the synagogue this last week and you know this again deranged kid his 19 walks into a synagogue and shoots people but immediately what what he was labeled as mentally disturbed so I'm thinking okay definitely mentally disturbed but isn't the person in Sri Lanka with a bomb on his back also mentally disturbed so these are people that are acting you know but we never label the man in Poway that the young gentleman we never labeled him as you know an extremist Christian for instance I don't know what his religion is I really don't care what his religion is it there is no religion that would say to do this but the the idea is you know if we're going to label people then we should be fair and labeling people across the board and that's not happening unfortunately so we here you know we're so it's reinforced in our psyche now to hear the words you know Islamic terrorism Islamic terrorism Islamic terrorism and then mentally you know disturbed mentally disturbed so if you're white and you know Anglican you're mentally disturbed but if you're a Muslim then you're a terrorist which believe me we do not condone this so definitely they are terrorists and our religion actually says that if you kill one person it's as if you've killed all of mankind so we are you know some is the farthest away that can be to do this kind of thing so the fact that they do it and we see it all the time is is disturbing to us very hurtful to some people because we feel everyone else's pain but at the same time it unfortunately you have you know you have one bad apple and then you have you know the rest of the tree has to suffer as a result so you get a lot of people that are suffering and being targeted as a result and you know I guess the state of the world any questions sorry yeah like that kassir thanks they're out there we go absolutely yeah yeah so I have two daughters one chose to wear it the other has not and my daughter who chose to wear chose to wear it following the San Bernardino shootings and the reason she decided to wear it is she wanted to be identified as a Muslim because she hoped that she would be you know she would be a good example of a Muslim you know change yeah that she would change the perspective you have a question or you want to add something good yeah Rashidah Talib yes yes so what did you want me to comment on them about well if I could just have them in support of my wife's leadership role in the community and I think dr. Amador would also agree that within our Muslim community here in the US we are seeing more more women take on roles of leadership which wasn't the case maybe thirty four years ago so our Islam getting more in line with the true teachings of Islam here in the United States and then in line with the most women being voted into office in this last election the two Muslim representatives one from Michigan and one from Minnesota Rasheeda Filipe from Michigan and I'll have Omar from Minnesota and understanding that within their areas their consistence it wasn't just possible sporting for them because they also stood for equality for taking care of the underprivileged within their communities so it was Muslims all non-muslims that throw them into office just so just to clarify that I should add their pictures to the presentation thank you very much some of the examples of Muslim woman leadership Ingrid Madison is the president of a snap or she was the prisoners that for many years many years ago it is the largest Islamic organization America Islamic Society of North America it is premature possess office of the America 78 amusement so she was the president for many years to come the president of Indonesia since 2001 the Prime Minister of Pakistan since 1988 the hijab that levin was talking about she mentioned she very nicely covered a few things on him it's a head cover that sign of liberation modesty not oppression and something that a lot of people misunderstand its they don't take shower wearing it by the way they don't go to sleep wearing it they have beautiful here usually and they speak English very well when they were it you saw that they were assumed and they're like I had a guy who had the guts to tell my wife go back to your country when she was my age she's from Texas for God's sake unless you consider it takes a different country that's okay but people do have this understanding it's the whole of it is you're only wearing it when you are around none family members who are males so when they have a girl's party that kills gathering they don't have to wear when they are around their fathers their husbands their children their own cause they don't have to wear when they're sleeping at night they're just that one they don't really where the world is it should not be tight-fitting or c2 so that's the point it's all for modesty it covers your body except the face and the answer she said and it's definitely a personal decision like newbies daughters one of them chose to do it one of them my mother like your mother never worried all my aunts all my mother sighs they don't worry for my aunt so my dad sighs to wear it so if you go around the the Muslim populations you'll find good person for someone don't wear shoes just to live life without it but it's a personal decision now some cultures force their goes to where some countries have the law says that you have to work like Saudi Arabia bylaw she has to wear it gross have a woman hastily after work and hijab is not an islamic thing only it's been before Islam have you seen those pictures before right and if any of you is a Latino if you remember your grandma which is go to the church used to put something on her head many Christian denominations until now they they're outdoors not Jewish denominations women or it's a sign of modesty and respect well again it's a personal choice some cultures do subcultures even in America I mean we have a church who comes to visit us every year agama Don Tomas and I just found out they don't allow women on the board it's by their bylaws women are not allowed to be on the board of directors of that church so yes some cultures do from that absolutely absolutely I mean around the world like if you go to Turkey for example very that's very progressive country when it comes to any goals here in America because now we are ensuring that that American Muslim community were building on all in the style and all identity as American Muslims and one of it is that we have the as I told you I don't if you're here I'm the chairman of an organization that has 78 organizations underneath it many of the top leaders of these organizations are women the largest mosque in Southern California in Garden Grove few years ago the chairman was a woman okay so so these things definitely people when they come from horses they bring their cultural package with it and little bit early start they start changing even when you travel to around the world you go with your cultural package of Christianity and it's a little but let's start cleaning up and you start seeing different kind of off of more authentic yes [Music] it's a Muslim man that I worked with and a former interfaith organization said that he had a place in his heart for Muslim women because he said that he said when I go out to the grocery store I just look like a hipster cuz he you know he had a beard and you know a little cap and he said I don't I don't stand out and he said but my Muslim sisters really said

Channel: Cross and Crown Lutheran

Views: 2,572

Keywords: Islam, Muslim, Culture, Tradition, Interfaith, Christian, Lutheran, Women's rights, ecumenicalism

Id: CIvnzIHU_3s

Length: 46min 42sec (2802 seconds)

Published: Thu May 02 2019