Will DC Become Better Than the MCU? - Marvel's Problems Explained

Barry what are you doing our kids are going to want to see this hey welcome back screen Crush I'm Ryan Airy so the first reviews for The Flash are in or I guess I should say reactions to the flash RN and most people say that it's a pretty great film including our own Colton Ogburn when we talked to him about it earlier this week but you know what these days movies are never as important as their entire franchise they're a part of and what Colton and the other online reactions are saying is that this is the first DC movie in years that actually gets you excited for more DC movies and a little bit I want to hear from Colton and author Adam Lance Garcia about their thoughts on this but I want to pose a question to all of you is the MCU about to decline and will the DCU rise to take its place what do you mean DMC is awesome and DC's made such hits as Black Adam and Batgirl oh too soon sorry look man I agree I love the MCU we cover every second of MCU content on this channel but you have to admit that it's on a little bit of a downward Trend maybe not in quality but definitely an enthusiasm why whatever do you mean well let me explain we all know that for the first 11 years the MCU redefined Hollywood they had such a hit streak building this Mega franchise not just in box office but in quality and it culminated in Avengers end game which was like a love letter to fans and and culminated the entire Infinity Saga Avengers end game was a miracle it's amazing and then a lot of fans were starting to say that they should have stopped the MCU right there because that movie felt like a natural ant now I always thought that was ridiculous because I am a long time comic book fan and there's always one rule in comics nothing ever ends after Avengers end game I was still excited for all the stories that Marvel had left to adapt heck they hadn't even touched the X-Men or the Fantastic Four yet and then in 2019 Marvel made an announcement at San Diego Comic-Con about what was coming up and it was an embarrassment of riches more taika with TD Thor more Scott Derricks and Doctor Strange more Spider-Man the MCU expanding to premium streaming content Marvel lost some big stars and end game but they had a few existing Heroes who could carry the franchise as they introduced new Heroes to The Saga but then the studio which had an incredible lucky streak up to this point was hit with some really big snacks in 2018 Disney fired James Gunn for some old disgusting tweets that he made but get this the tweets were not even new when Gunn was hired by Marvel in 2013 he acknowledged the tweets and apologized for them but still he was fired and Guardians 3 was shelved now a year later he would be rehired by Disney but Gunn had already missed a year of pre-production work on Guardians 3 and had agreed to direct the suicide squad for Warner Brothers so now Gunn was making movies for the competition and his own MCU franchise would be delayed now this is a big deal because Guardians 3 was originally scheduled to open phase four in May of 2020. then in February 2020 Bob Iger stepped down as president of the Walt Disney Company well what's that got to do with anything well maybe nothing but I have a theory that I'll explain in just a little bit then of course the coronavirus hit Marvel projects that were finished like black widow were unable to be released in theaters and production halted on a number of other projects like one division Loki Shang Chi the eternals and Falcon the Winter Soldier all delayed Marvel's release schedule was changing every single week for like two years originally Multiverse of Madness was supposed to be released a few few months after one Division and not a year later look you get the idea you were there Marvel's biggest loss was the death of Chadwick Boseman in 2020. in addition to being a wonderful person and a gifted actor he was the star of the franchise's most promising movie franchise but in 2021 the MCU came back the year was great for streaming shows with one division Loki Falcon the Winter Soldier at Hawkeye and what if all being bangers or at least really strong the movies in 2021 were a bit hit and miss but really solid Marvel Clash with Scarlett Johansson over the streaming release of Black Widow but they settled out of court and of course that year gave a Spider-Man no way home which was awesome and made us excited for the franchise to come but even in that comeback year of 2021 cracks were starting to show Marvel was announcing a lot of new content for Disney plus the universe didn't feel as connected because for instance the eternals seemed really random like it didn't make sense how a giant guy was sticking out of the ocean and why no one in the other project mentioned this and the reason for that is because Marvel silos all these projects the directors and creators aren't always talking to each other and I think that's in part because of the scale of production and the amount of projects started to ramp up so fast that nobody had time to make sure the universe stayed interconnected and the quality of the CGI was starting to diminish see Marvel's reshoot schedules made visual effects teams work these inhumane hours to meet deadlines it was the best of times it was the blurst of times you stupid monkey and all through 2022 Marvel put out some really great stuff but that year was also showing these cracks in the franchise's structure Multiverse of Madness was a really fun Sam Raimi movie that actually ignored Wanda's arc on Wanda vision and it's also rumored that Thor love and thunder didn't even have a finished script when they started shooting which is probably why the movie is filled with unfunny vamping I want to feel shitty about you and I meditated did you meditate no that's so boring it actually made me more angry I was actually most disappointed by that movie because like my expectations for it were Sky High I mean it's fine but it's no Ragnarok and then there's Ms Marvel and that's the show where I think the cracks really started to show in the MCU phase 4 infrastructure and believe me the show has its high points I loved its depiction of Desi culture and Aman villani is a rookie actor who really brought the charm I am the light girl your what night light and I also love the way they Incorporated text messages into the production design but like as soon as the gender introduced in the series the show started to feel cheap and it's the first time I watched an MCU show and thought this feels cheap like the Gen didn't have powers their motivation was never like super clear they wanted to go home but we didn't know what home was and then there's this climactic scene in the market which is totally empty because of covid-19 restrictions and this is where you really see what I think is the worst of this series this is when Kamala is trying to appeal to najma to not destroy her entire reality just to go back to her own Dimension okay here's the thing Aman villani is awesome this was her first acting role sometimes it shows I've heard that after she shot the Marvel she went back did reshoots for this show and that you know her performance to them was a lot better but this scene shows us an actor who's dealing with like heavy text for the first time and a villain who hilarious resolves all the conflict too quickly in front of a big swirling CGI Cloud please from Commerce too [Music] you're right it just feels unfinished like they ran out of time and money and kind of so does She-Hulk I mean she-hawk was a solid show had one episode that I hated but it was a great adaptation from The Source material but the train put on CGI artist was all too apparent it like it breaks this reality to see a character walking around who is the same style animation as The Sims but the heart was there and the show even made fun of its CGI constraints you are very expensive oh sure but wait until the camera is off you the visual effects team has moved on to another project but look 2022 also gave us Moon night where I thought Oscar Isaac put on one of the top tier MCU performance and wakanda forever rose up to give us one of the best MCU movies ever made but then Marvel kept announcing way more shows spin-offs of spin-offs like Echo iron hard Agatha the kind of stuff were like I was excited but I'm also going geez that's that's a lot of homework to do and then quantumania kicked off phase five to a very disappointing box office now look I think I'm alone here but I really like the movie The CGI was kind of basic and wretched in places but it is my favorite Ant-Man movie but it did also seem to make Kang look a little weak everybody was hyped for this villain I mean we put him on every thumbnail for a month but then Ant-Man gets kind of Lucky and takes him down it's it's not like a good look for the new Thanos and speaking of Jonathan Majors was arrested for domestic assault now it looks like that particular case has been dismissed but other alleged victims have come forward to the D.A and majors has been dropped by his management from movies endorsement deals the mcu's sticky with him for now and I guess he's supposed to be in Loki which is coming out this year but like none of this is good news quantumania was in and out of theater so fast I've had headaches that lasted longer than a theatrical run and this is where I think Disney started to panic in November 2022 Bob Iger returned to Disney replacing Bob chapek as CEO and here is where look I am going to wildly speculate I think that chapic who became CEO in 2020 put the screws to Kevin feige you to create more and more and more and more content for Disney plus remember Disney plus was a new streaming service at this time and they wanted to compete with Netflix so this watered down the output of Marvel Studios because they had to rush production to get all these shows out and I think this is the case because when Iger came back in almost immediately the MCU scales back we're getting two maybe three shows released this year when the original number was supposed to be seven now I think that overall this is very good for the MCU scale back a bit focus on quality over quantity we'll be here we'll wait but for some fans maybe the magic is already gone there has been so much MCU content that maybe they're ready for something new or like restaurants no look I you know I hate when critics talk about superhero films going the way of The Westerns people are still going to watch Superhero films superheroes have been around for almost 100 years and we finally have the technology to make them work on film now the type of superhero film might change like for every Logan there's a Blue Beetle but they are here to stay I mean like nobody ever says oh our war movies ever gonna go away superhero movies are awesome and I love them and like that's kind of my point though I think that fans might get excited over something new the DC extended Universe had a myriad of problems it was totally Bleak had inconsistent quality and then inconsistent tones Warner Brothers publicly humiliated Zack Snyder by hiring Joss Whedon to reshoot his movie and they only succeeded in making a bad movie and pissing off hardcore fans they tried to appease these fans with a recut of Justice League and then those same fans won't stop asking for James Gunn to be fired for showing Henry Cavill the door it's all a mess and this brings us to James Gunn who directed my favorite DC EU film The Suicide Squad and then he created a kick-ass Peacemaker show [Applause] so then Warner Brothers trusted James Gunn to be co-head of DC films and now he spends a lot of time fighting with fans on Twitter but they do finally have a plan to paraphrase gun Warner Brothers was tossing IP at any director who showed them a little leg but now they are creating a consistent Universe gun is a massive comic book fan and I think they are going to do this right and by every account the flash is a perfect send-off to the old dceu and makes fans excited for what's to come and look guys I got to make this clear I am not crapping on the MCU or even taking sides because this debate is silly there are no sides I am rooting for great movies about the characters that I love but I do wonder if the box office balance of power might be about to shift now that's all the background information I have two really big gets here for me today we have Colton Ogburn who has actually seen The Flash and we have Adam Lance Garcia who is a producer and actually just about to be a published Star Wars author and a certain point of view from Return of the Jedi so we're really excited to talk to with you about this Colton first I want to start with you so you have actually seen the flash having said there's a million things you cannot tell us spoiler reviews stuff like that based on your reactions do you think that the flash is like a really good start to this new DCU does it pivot away from the DC EU well and make people excited for the next thing well this film felt nothing like a dceu movie it felt like something new something fresh and I think it's important to keep in mind you know this film was made long before James Gunn and the new DCU or DCU were announced so I I think that's important to keep in mind but yeah I can tell you that there are some things in this film that personally made me say that was James Gunn so as the new you know CEO or co-ceo of DC Studios I definitely think that he had a hand in the Final Cut like maybe saying let's do something here do something there it this is the perfect opportunity to help reset this universe for what I've got uh coming up with my film so I'm really glad that they took advantage of that and what's most important like regardless of this resetting the universe which they've said it does it in the trailers and stuff and yes I can confirm it does reset the universe what's most important is it's good forget resetting the universe forget all of that it's a good movie it's if this was just like a subpar movie or oh yeah it's fine you know something like that I don't think that would have been good I mean yeah they could have got past it and still reset but I think they are so fortunate that this film was such an amazing movie because it gets people excited for what's to come and now this movie can be viewed as essentially the first film in this rebooted DC Universe so it's very exciting and I think it's really great really great for what they've got coming so Adam having heard that I want to know why you're excited for the Flash and just for like DC in general I know you're a big Shazam guy we don't have to quite touch on the last movie but just in general why why are you excited about DC I think what's exciting about just the the James gun of it all I'm very excited I think there's some interviews that he's done that I think speaks to what I'm excited about and what I've kind of missed in a lot of the MCU films which is a focus on characters and making sure that these films work as films first and then sort of the meta narrative second I think that was a big mistake that the DC EU made which was focusing on the larger uh metanarrative first and then kind of like you know it was all leading to the Justice League and they sort of retrofitted it uh to make that happen I I'm looking forward to just based on the trailers and based on what I've heard other people say about the flash is that it's a good movie for these characters um it's a good Flash movie and I what when we even talk about the Multiverse aspect of it it all works in relation to who the flash is and what he knows you know you see he has a relationship with Batman and then he meets another version of Batman and that is my cat agreeing with me um then there's the aspect of like meeting a different version of himself meaning a Supergirl meetings these are all characters that he knows so when he goes through this journey and this adventure it's about him about his journey where I think a lot of the DCU films and a lot of the MCU films recently are more about this larger thing that I think what didn't work with the Snyder films was it's about dark side and we have to build a Justice League um and that was all came first and the characters kind of came second now that's interesting because I know Colton is a defender of Man of Steel I am not um I'll go to the mat with people on that I've have in several videos but I would say the Man of Steel you know for all of its perceived flaws for me did put character first so oh yeah I think your exception yeah and then when you get to Batman v Superman obviously we're throwing you know Lex Luthor not only has the Justice League members on his laptop but he's designed a logo for each of them which is always one of my favorite touches in that um but see that sort of thing is okay in a universe that's more tonally like Marvel more comedic and I think we did get into like a lot of imbalance with the DC films you had these these people who are taking themselves super seriously and then Shazam would come out you know or even have the two Suicide Squad films So Adam just to briefly Circle back to DC like we've seen basically several different DC universes happening all at once right and I'm not just talking about the Multiverse I'm talking about Black Adam Shazam and The Suicide Squad right three fairly different movies that felt like they were in three completely different universes so what is it about James Gunn's emphasis on character that you saw in the suicide squad are you excited to become like the overarching drive for the new DCU well it's interesting because I think um DC you know let's you look at the initial version of it which is like Snyder's vision and then they try to course correct and sort of over course correcting by you know making Shazam and making Aquaman a very totally different but sort of like you had to sort of retro fit them into the Justice League of it all um what I've come to really look forward to based on what gun is saying is that they're gonna sort of go to the comic book approach which is make sure that every film uh can stand upon its own that it has a certain artistic style that it has a certain artistic Vision that can loop back in to the main Universe where I think that with these uh sir double back on DC EU was that they start with Snyder and it was one holistic vision and then they try to break away but sort of like retrofit it in uh whereas now they're just like hey let's we have a guiding principle but each film will have a specific art artistic Vision um and we can sort of make sure that they all work in accordance with each other without losing sight of uh the characters what I'm looking forward to is kind of a gun deal with Guardians of the Galaxy he made at least two of the films that I've seen so far in the holiday special they feel like James Gunn movies but they also fit into the larger universe but like he he plays Fair on the in the sandbox um but you look at them and they feel like a James Gunn movie um that's I think what's been missing for the DC EU because everyone was trying to either be like Snyder or run away from Snyder yeah we had a lot of uh desaturation and a lot of slow motion even in Black Adam which is several different years removed from Snyder so it'll be interesting to see directors like take their own artistic vision and start to apply that on the black atom at all I think and this is a similar problem with the MCU is that for a time things were way too siled like there's a ver there's a version of like making sure that uh you have a standalone artistic Vision that can fit into the large universe but I think you have the rock making a Black Adam movie that he wants to only be like his little corner of the universe at the detriment of other films at the Dutchman of the uh Shazam for your the gods at the Judgment of Superman you know and the Justice League and the Justice Society he wanted to have his own little corner um and it hurt the film it hurt the whole universe so Colton you and I have been on the channel a lot and I'm somebody who can like I cherry pick the MCU I just talked about like how I was disappointed in Thor 11 Thunder and a few other things in the past phases but overall like I am a defender of the MCU unlike Adam and I think you are as well like you've been pretty upfront with phase four being the weakest phase but you know not necessarily like bad outright so what what are your thoughts on phase four and and five I guess the start of it but more importantly what are your thoughts on the MCU going forward phase four like you said it yes it's weak but there's a lot of great stuff in there and I think the sheer fact that there has been so much they've been pumping out so many shows so many movies it's become very oversaturated and I think what people are failing to do is really look at phase four of the MCU and acknowledge like well hey that was pretty good that was pretty they're focusing too much on the bad stuff and that's you know I guess if you're a glass half full glass half empty kind of person I'm a pretty I'm pretty easy to impress when it comes to Marvel stuff um but I I've enjoyed phase four and I think that now with Bob Iger being back at Disney and putting Marvel Studios more back in the hands of Kevin feige and creatives to do what they feel is best to make a great MCU I think that's a good thing I think that before feige may have been being pushed to make way too many things and he was in his Hands-On and that definitely definitely has shown in phase four and another thing if you look at every show and every movie that has come out in phase four I don't think any of them were bad I think that with a tighter edit and maybe just a few tweaks here and there to different scripts they could have had a really great phase four but there were just too many hands on it not enough oversight by feige himself and the people that made phase one through three great and I I think that was the issue there but with this course correction in terms of feige now being able to have his hands on each project and not put out as many I I do think that Marvel can bounce back I can actually follow up to that because I think what is interesting about the MCU phase four was that it for for me it's highlighted all the problems I was having with the MC basically beginning with infinity war and I know I'm sort of um a pariah in my dislike for Infinity war and preference for end game um but I think what's happened with phase four is it's a few things uh it's again the overalliance on The Meta narrative the focus on like the what's the next big thing I think they're they started focusing too much on what the audience wants and not what the character needs um you know because there's that great moment an end game where all the characters show up and it's such a great and real wonderful thrilling moment because it's all been building to that moment that you have all the characters coming through the portals and I think that the MC was trying to recreate that feel in every film I like uh Spider-Man no way home but it put the audience ahead of the characters sort of like comparing it to again sight unseen to The Flash and I've sort of insinuated this before in the flash he knows Batman he knows Superman he knows who Zod is he knows who who his he knew he know who he is he knows his parents are this Multiverse aspect all works in relation to him as much as I enjoyed Spider-Man no way at home who was Doc Ock to this version of Spider-Man who was um Electro to this version of Spider-Man it was all it was fun and it was cool but these characters didn't mean anything ultimately to Peter Parker the other part of it is is that because they're focusing so much on the larger meta narrative and they're trying to to your point about like trying to produce as much stuff as Pop as fast as possible um they over saturated the market there's not enough focus on making sure that the quality of each story is as strong as possible the way they did in the earlier phases um and also they're producing things without finished scripts um they're producing things uh that and and this is sort of public knowledge at this point they're keep on changing their mind so they'll go into production without a finish script um and then they'll like completely reshape the story because of the whims of of edit a good example is how James Gunn speaks recently spoke about the ending of end game having Thor be a part of the Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't part of his plan but they decided to change it in edit for whatever reason um at the end of end game and they had to sort of write Thor out at the end in the beginning of Thor love and thunder because it wasn't gonna work uh in Guardians of the Galaxy and then you have an the other aspect of even though they're focusing on this larger narrative that they're not allowing the other writers to talk to each other so you have instances uh like for example with one division how Wanda was portrayed in one division having her Arc uh sort of have her realize oh I've messed up and then having her basically reset in Multiverse of Madness because the writers and directors of that film were not allowed to see what was going on on a show featuring the main character in their film exactly and see before in the early days of the MCU that wouldn't have been a thing I Envision a whiteboard that Kevin feige personally has where everything connects and everything that happens it's not like a and this happens or and that happens it's a therefore this happens that's how feige used to run things and now face four just seems like this happens oh yeah and then this happened and that's not connected and oh well that contradicts so we'll just undo that so I I completely agree Adam I take your point about no way home for example because when you re-watch that movie outside of a movie theater it's weird because there's Applause breaks built into it and you're just in your house watching Andrew Garfield go okay you know Adam you are dead on about Marvel changing their mind which is why the visual effects are so rushed and unfinished it's part of the reason but you know when you read that history of Marvel Studios that big double volume it talks about Thor 11 Thunder or sorry it talks about Thor dark World and how that movie was a mess when they finished it so they had to do all these massive reshoots and they were proud of themselves for for doing that until they realized this isn't normal but it has become the norm Marvel learned the wrong lesson the best and worst lesson from Iron Man which was go into a movie without a script um figure it out as would they go and edit it together and the one thing they did right but they haven't really done since is they knew what the VFX were going in they built their movie around the big action pieces so it all felt a little cohesive what and since Iron Man was so successful even Dark World was so I was Rel relatively successful financially when you look at how they've been making these movies today they go in to a film uh without a script they shoot as much as they can they figured out as they go they put in edit they realize it doesn't work and then they reshoot it spending millions of dollars you can see it in Thorn love and thunder you can see the even their TV series uh it's white Falcon the Winter Soldier didn't work it's why even She-Hulk was completely rejiggered to take the like finale and put it into the like the the penultant episode and put it in the premiere um it happens all the time and that's again why I'm excited about the dce uh the new DCU because gun goes in with a finished script that's why his films are so much better uh and more consistent because he has a script that he goes in with and it's done um and that's what I hope to see from the DCU well and that's because gun he's a filmmaker he he's you know he comes from indie film and when you come from indie film and I'm not a you know an indie filmmaker I've I've done a few amateur things here and there and when you're going in to make an indie film you don't have the budget to go back and redo something once you're done shooting you're done shooting what you've got is what you've got Marvel and other Studios probably they've gotten too cocky in the sense that oh we've got the budget to just throw all these popular IPS in here we'll shoot it we'll make it cool we'll throw effects on it if it doesn't work we'll spend another few million and just try to construct something together that we know people are going to come see but that doesn't work if it's not good people are not going to stick around to see it and that's what they need to understand and that's why DC is in a good place with James Gunn I do admit though Marvel has a track record of hiring and the directors you could say that Joss Whedon or actually John Favreau was their first Indie director hire that worked out really well even done elf and things like that first I mean Taiko batiti uh Anna Bowden Ryan Fleck John Watts some of the people who they've handed like their biggest franchises to started off with you know a couple kids in the woods with a car and a camera and John wants this case you know with cop car um so but to that point yeah I guess only I was going to say to that point like of all those directors like do any of them actually have their artistic stamp on these films the way that Gunn did even the there's aspects of Sam Raimi and Multiverse of Madness but it's when it comes in it's brief and kind of goes away real quickly um again that's what I'm so excited about the the mentality moving forward the DC uh the new DCU because I can still have my Matt Reeves Batman and it's gonna feel like a map reads Batman um and I'm going to have the Brave and the Bold and that's going to feel very different and it's gonna have a unique vision and I'm really excited about Superman Legacy because it's gonna feel like a James Gunn film like that's my favorite part of uh The Suicide Squad and uh Peacemaker they felt like gun pieces um that was the one best thing that happened sort of the post Justice League era was that we got this diverse things I'm not the biggest fan of the Joker but at the same time it feels like felt unique it felt different um it didn't feel homogenized I think that's um yes and the MCU has been hiring a lot of Indie directors but they don't really let them have their individual Flair that made them that great directions with the exception of like Chloe Zao and uh James Gunn even then Chloe I think Chloe Zhao was a little bit buried and some of the snappy dialogue in the eternals what was this even made of vibranium fall collection Ikea the eternals if look I'm this is a another TalkBack topic but I really think the Eternal should have just been in the Multiverse that should have just been a different planet and a different thing because it's become such a weird Pariah among all like the story points we had a brief mention of the the celestial team coming out of the ground and she Hawk like on a web page better than that it's kind of been ignored which speaks to everything you're saying Adam about the structure how everybody siled and they're not even able to communicate together because things are happening there's so many plates spinning at once and I want to be clear again I am not rooted against the MCU I love the MCU I love MCU movies I want to see these movies and shows be great um Colton what about you where are you with the MCU and the DCU and what are your like hopes and expectations for what's about to come as far as the future of the MCU and the DCU I don't think it has to be a versus I mean sure they are competitors but I think they both will benefit from both doing very well and I Envision a world where DCU and MCU can be very successful franchises that you know benefit the other you know you just saw this really great Marvel movie and now the next great DC movie comes out in a month you're very pumped to see that and vice versa I think they can really help one another and and I'm really excited for what they both have to offer James Gunn was mentored by one of the greatest producers in Hollywood and Kevin feige and I think that the two of them together are going to Usher Us in to Annex great decade of superhero movies and I think it's important we've heard about superhero fatigue for years and it's never comic book movie fatigue and it's never come until now maybe so maybe maybe they need to start revisioning what a superhero or comic book movie can be okay Adam what about you what are your final thoughts here are we going to see the fans come you know is fan enthusiasm waiting for the MCU and can fans like you come back I fans like me can definitely come back I think to the Colton's point about superhero fatigue I think James Gunn has and I've mentioned this before the right attitude it's about the characters it doesn't matter uh whether or not it's a superhero movie as long as the movie is good people will show up what I think we've seen like was Shazam for uh fear of the Gods and Black Adam Ant-Man the WASP is that the films are just not special that we've seen these stories before you know even this even though I am a defender of Suzanne fear the gods we've seen that movie before it's just a new paint job um we've kind of seen Ant-Man and the WASP Quantum media before we kind of saw that in Loki you know there's nothing about these films that feel unique whereas from what I'm understanding from what Colton has said today is there's something special about the flash there's something that we need to look forward to because of the story that's being told in that specific film um so I don't think it's necessarily a superhero fatigue I think it's just mid fatigue we're just tired of films that don't feel as uh well baked as they should be all right I'm gonna let you have last word there Colton where can the people find you uh you can find me on Twitter for now at Colton hogburn and uh videos here on screen Crush thank you and your work uh well you can find me basically on every social media platform at Adam Lance Garcia and you can watch some of my work on Vanity Fair or Teen Vogue those YouTube channels and on September 5th you can read my very first Star Wars story which is the coolest sentence I've ever gotten to say and it is the best and we are you've been coming on for years now and I've told you on Twitter and in person but just congratulations on getting I know it's a lifelong dream come true but we want to hear from all of you guys about the DCU and the MCU let us know what you think down in the comments below or at me on Twitter and if it's your first time here please subscribe smash that Bell for alerts for screen Crush I'm ryanairy [Music] 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Published: Sat Apr 29 2023