Why Does Scania Still Use a V8 Engine?

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About a week ago, we put out a video going  over commercial trucks, semi trucks, tractors,   whatever you want to call them, why they all use  inline six engines and why previously, you know,   some older ones, they had used V8s and some other  configurations, but why all pretty much all modern   trucks used inline six engines. And most of that  revolves around torque, ease of maintenance,   and lack of size limitations. But that got me  thinking, there's no size limitations because   trucks here in the US can be huge, because our  roads are very wide. But what about other places,   like Europe, for example where the roads are  much smaller and there are size limitations? You   couldn't just stick a massive Peterbilt on some  Italian road and hope for the best. On top of   that, that last video that I had just mentioned,  got a ton of comments mentioning Scania,   who is a company that I personally had not heard  of because they're not really here in the US,   they have no presence here. But overseas  they are massive. So, with that in mind,   let's take a deep dive into Scania trucks  and why they use a V8 configuration   as opposed to pretty much every other  commercial truck maker who uses an inline six. Before we look at why Scania uses the V8, why  they developed it, and why they still use it,   we should briefly take a look at the differences  between American commercial trucks and European or   basically anywhere else commercial trucks, because  there's a big difference between those two. If you   look at US trucks, they're almost all conventional  style, meaning the engine is in front of the cab.   Ultimately, that means that the trucks here in  the US are pretty big and like, for example,   sleeper cab trucks, which not only have the  engine in front of the cab but also have a   massive sleeper as part of the cab, which makes  the total wheelbase massive. The massive size   of these trucks isn't an issue in the US, like I  mentioned before, because our roads are very wide,   so maneuverability isn't necessarily at a  premium over things like comfort, cab space,   ease of maintenance, and most importantly  fuel economy, because many of these trucks are   traveling hundreds of miles per day, unless you're  talking about something like a day cab truck,   although those can see some pretty serious mileage  too. On the other hand, in places like Europe,   where the roads are generally much smaller,  even outside the city roads over there are   pretty small as compared to roads here. On  top of that, intracity roads are even smaller   and so maneuverability is at a premium over  absolutely everything else, which is why   trucks in Europe are pretty much all cab over or  cab forward, however you want to call it. Now a   cab over or cab forward truck, is a truck where  instead of having the engine in front of the cab,   the cab is essentially on top of the engine.  Now this helps save space, because the truck can   be much shorter. The point is that the trucks  in Europe are much shorter, because they need   extra maneuverability, especially in city.  With that out of the way, let's take a look   at where the Scania V8 came from and to do that  we need to rewind the clock to the late 1960s,   which is when they introduced the 350  horsepower 14 liter V8 turbo diesel engine,   known as the DS14. Up until that point, Scania  had done things such as building cars, bicycles,   industrial engines, buses, fire trucks, and a lot  more. Really, up until their V8 engine release,   you could argue that they didn't have a brand  image or something to remember them for. Sure,   they were interesting and they were a cool little  swedish company, but there was nothing really   special about them. I think it's also worth noting  that they technically had a V8 engine prior to   1969 through a partnership with Mack, but that's  relatively unimportant to this story, so we're not   going to get into it. Now, there are a few reasons  for releasing a V8 engine, as opposed to what they   already had. A big one is packaging, which we  went over in the last video with the inline six   engines. But, to briefly recap, a cab over truck  doesn't have as much engine compartment space   as a conventional truck and V engines are more  space efficient than in-line engines, which means   switching to a V8 engine helps save cab space,  which is at a premium in cab over trucks because   you're basically sitting on top of the engine. An  interesting thing to note about that original 14   liter engine, is that it blew the doors off  of everything else in Europe at that time,   producing 350 horsepower, when most other options  only produce 250 to 260 horsepower. With more   power, you can haul heavier loads at higher  speeds, meaning you can get more work done and   get paid more. Not only that, it was determined  that a more powerful truck that could cruise at   higher speeds actually improved highway safety,  as overtaking it when you were in a normal car was   easier, because the speed differential between the  truck and the car wasn't so exaggerated. In 1976   the DS14 was upgraded to 375 horsepower and then  the power continued to be upgraded throughout the   years. Now, if we were to take a massive jump  forwards to today, Scania is still using the V8   engine configuration, although now they are  past the DS14 engine platform and the power   levels are pretty insane with their current top  of the line engine that they released in 2020,   producing 770 horsepower and 2200 feet of  torque. But, the question is, why did they   stick with a V8 this whole time? Well, there are  a few reasons, but a big one is simply heritage.   It's ultimately something that helped give their  brand a unique identity. Packaging is another one,   as though there are significantly more size  constraints in a cab over truck, especially one   that needs to be super maneuverable and to scoot  around tight European roads. That being said,   the V8 configuration that Scania uses isn't nearly  as balanced as an inline six, it has to share   bearing space on the crank, and it doesn't have  quite as much stroke as an inline-six engine. That   being said, the DC16, which is the 770 horsepower  engine that I was talking about a moment ago,   that engine has a bore of a 130 millimeters by  154 millimeters, so they are still able to get   a fairly long stroke out of this engine, although  it's not as extreme as something like a Cummins   X15. Really though, for Scania, it almost all  comes down to heritage. The V8 diesel is what   helped grow their brand to new heights and it's  what their customers expected them to continue   with. They've had plenty of chances to switch to  an inline-six engine, but they've stuck with their   roots and as such, they've built quite a following  in Europe, as well as other parts of the world.   You could argue that they are the most popular  truck brand in Europe, but the point is they   stuck with their V8 configuration and even though  an inline six might have more pros on paper,   the cons of the V8 configuration can be and have  been covered with good engineering from Scania.   Their current engine platform, which is the DC16,  is about as advanced as any engine out there in   terms of the commercial truck world. It uses  dual overhead cams, four valves per cylinder,   and a fully gear driven system, and really a lot  of the parts are parts that you could find on an   inline six engine, which meant that the DC16 was  a lot more modular than previous engine platforms,   which simply makes it better in pretty much every  single way. Now, if you're like me and you're   wondering why isn't Scania here in the US, um,  they actually were here in the US at one point,   but they simply really can't compete with  other truck manufacturers, especially the   fact that Scania pretty much completely moved  over to a cab over design and here in the US,   cab over trucks are pretty much non-existent. We  had them here at one point, but with safety and   aerodynamics in mind, a conventional truck is a  lot more popular. And on top of that, the way that   the US has set up the roads and the requirements  for it, actually punishes shorter wheelbase   trucks. So something like a cab over actually has  a less favorable length to weight ratio. If you   guys enjoyed this video, be sure to give it a big  thumbs up. If you think there's anything I left   out or if you're somebody out there who drives a  Scania truck or you're just a big fan of Scania,   drop a comment down below let me know all about  your experiences with them and their engines.   Be sure to check out some of the other videos on  the channel and I'll see you guys in the next one.
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Channel: Dust Runners Automotive Journal
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Length: 8min 19sec (499 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 01 2022
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