Who had more help in their career: LeBron James or Michael Jordan? | NBA | UNDISPUTED

so Shannon who had more help during their career abroad or Jordan hmm interest question joy Jordan yeah absolutely yeah how they all had the better players and what also what goes into this skip is that anytime LeBron has had really great teammates players he's they're only there for a short period of time so he played with D way but he only played for years he played three or four years there's a long time go ahead if they loaned him to tenure the Scottie Pippen played with Michael Jordan cuz I do remember I told you thank good with numbers what about the six years you played with a whole grand Horace Grant play six of you so LeBron James has never had an all-star had an all-star teammate that he played with longer than four years Michael Jordan had ten years with Scottie Pippen Scottie Pippen's in the Hall of Fame top 50 players seven-time all-star seven-time all-nba ten times our defense defensive did you know that Scottie Pippen was the eight time first team All Defensive Player mm hole grant all defensive Dennis Rodman two-time Defensive Player of the Year all-star Toni Kukoc win six Man of the Year Charles Oakley with a defense two-time all they are all defensive NBA player all-stars let's go on and on and the failures simple and these guys had a specific job but a very interesting stat George I don't know if you know this your cousins you know you little thing running around they're getting on Jason ders I'm sure all those champions those six championship seasons guess who led them in a sense one Scottie Pippen LeBron James have yet to play on the team in which he has not led the team and scored an assist assist that's 15 up 15 down so the numbers are gonna be look a little skewed because that's an offensive game now and guys have got his stats but there's no question in my mind that Michael Jordan hmm had a better supporting cast really then what LeBron James has hmm interesting so joy I happen to start looking at all-star teams and through the years I start adding up the numbers MJ as LeBron and the first thing I find is that in nine out of Michael Jordan's 15 NBA seasons he was the solo all-star on his team only five times in LeBrons 15 seasons was he this solo arms all-star on his team so it's 9 solos for Michael only 5 for LeBron now that also includes one of the 9 solos was 1998 that was Michael's last championship run in Chicago nobody else on that team made the all-star team can you believe that Scottie Pippen that guy you were raving about he didn't even make the all-star team as Michaels teammate that year 1998 in which they went all the way to Utah Game six and you know what happened Michael stole the ball from Karl Malone dribbled up the court he didn't try some funky crazy horse shot off one foot falling out of bounds he just went straight up Byron Russell right there well free-throw line held the pose just held won the last two meter before me back to this that's that's kind of hard for you to argue 9 solo I'll start good years to 5 for LeBron so only six times that's the other six years of Michael's career did he have one all-star he just had Scottie for six years made the all-star team so that's six out of 15 and the others nine so he never had a multiple all-star team don't do that don't do then because Michael Jordan got to the league in 1984 so Scottie Pippen wasn't in the league Michael Jordan also went two years to Washington so don't do that so so tender though years in which he played with Scottie Pippen Scottie Pippen was a seven-time I won there Michael when there he had the two years off he's only six times was he able to play with one other all-star Scottie Pippen oh I'd only want I'm no context here now Michael Jordan got to the league in 84 yeah Scottie Pippen and coming to the league until what 87 88 okay so there's three years so we're talking Scottie Pippen coach at all-star game with him if he's not in the NBA well I'm just saying this is all he had so those years he didn't have any all-stars okay Yuma will be Orlando Woolridge yeah Michael Jordan rookie year he averaged 23 points a game and he didn't go the all-star I'm just I'm doing all stars that's all I'm doing and I'm looking at LeBron James and you realize once in Cleveland and four times in Miami he had multiple all-stars with him because last year in Cleveland obviously he had both Kevin Love and Kyrie and four straight years in Miami he had both Blaine and Bosh so that's multiple all-stars so if I add up all the all-star appearances that you've been able to play with that's 14 for LeBron and only six for Michael well that would mean I think 14 is much more than six so I think that means that LeBron's had way more all-star help than Michael ever thought about it right so let me get this right Scottie Pippen finished third in MVP voting the year Michael Jordan left he's an all-star game MVP he led the league in steals he's an 8-time first team All Defensive Player so which one of those guys which one of those guys okay of all the guys that LeBron played with tell me the guy that's better at playing defense than Scottie Pippen Dennis Rodman Horace Grant okay help me out with this what happened to that oh that top 50 player Scottie Pippen after he left Michael Jordan what happened he took him to the semi-final yeah they won 55 game the year Michael Dell did he ever make an all-star team oh did he make an all-star team this is you're raving about all this stuff did he make an all-star team without Michael Jordan I don't know LeBron leaves Cleveland they end the lottery they get the number one overall pick three times Michael Jordan leaves the Bulls and they win 55 games without it okay they go to the Miami Heat they go to fourth straight finals he leave there in the lottery I'm missing something here well your Muro saying that Scottie went to Houston then he went to Portland and he never made another all thing this is a top 50 player I've been consistent with this I wrote it in the Chicago Tribune you can look it up Michael Jordan made Scottie Pippen he certainly made him a top 50 player and Scottie knows I feel that way and he does not like it he's had big issues with me Gordon I'm gonna say it again Michael made Scotty what's gets killed you know Scotty didn't have a good time it used to because you know who was there he never liked him he doesn't like him but all that being all that being says can tell the people at home how many times Michael got out of the first round before Scottie Pippen joined his team since he made him okay if you'll tell the people that it took LeBron nine years to break through and win his first championship if you'll do that I'm good it took LeBron nine years nine yeah that's a long time but and What did he say it's about damn time but if Michaels gonna make the playoffs at 30 and 50 to Joy at 44 and 38 I mean at 38 and 44 I mean really is that what we're talking about what happened 30 and 50 hello how you go to the playoffs at 30 and 50 to wait a second if LeBron took his talents to South Beach yeah to join forces with the great Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh who was an all-star before he got to Miami in Toronto and then what happened in 2011 that first go-around I don't know what it looked like the chosen one became the frozen whatever - but let's use context huh this Fame Mavericks team that beat the Miami Heat for two in the NBA Finals swept the two-time defending champs Lakers they also blew the doors off Kevin Durant James hard Russell Westbrook in fire game but Steve we got to give some context now so are you telling me Andrew Bynum Pau Gasol Kobe Bryant how could Kobe Bryant guess well who was favored going into that series that's the only I am me Dallas after I am II was favored that's yeah that's the only theories that LeBron is everybody yeah but he's favored and boy he shrank I don't know I don't he's limit so so they suite the two-time defending champ with Kobe Bryant so Kobe Bryant ranked Kobe Bryant right hmm I guess so but Michael versus LeBron okay and LeBrons played with 14 total all-stars - only six for Michael but that's I I think just that win that LeBron has more hello you so you believe do you believe do eight is a better player in the Scottie Pippen I don't know yeah I would trust him more in the clutch for sure he made big shots yeah I would okay Dennis Rodman who is LeBron play with Dennis Rodman made two all-star teams he was to that he was to die and Defensive Player of the Year mm-hmm-hmm led the league in rebound to all teams - and guess what Dennis never made one with Michael here's the thing now you know why because he joined him he was 33 years old 34 okay here's the thing though let's be fair now we know the all-star to all-star be a Pro Bowl all-star game and baseball or basketball you know it's a popularity contest we've seen Magic Johnson not playing the NBA and be voted to the all-star game in 92 when it played in Orland I know Scottie whoa pop you make the all-star team can you let me talk whoo now on these all the NBA teams the fan doesn't vote for that all the NBA skills the writers guys like Skip Bayless and these guys and your former partner Stephen a they follow these games yeah so they voted Dennis Rodman all defensive eight times mmm they voted Scottie Pippen ten times mmm that's for the horse grant all-defensive team Charles Oakley all defensive but skill I mean come on now about Michael Jordan how many times was he all defensive I think ten yeah so maybe he's sort of LeBron is everybody around it what about LeBron you make it seem like broad and I'm a first team all-defensive team he used to be good yeah like defense anymore all I know the team all I know is in this past series when they try to shout against LeBron James they were shooting worse then they shot against any other Cleveland Cavalier defense that's now you love stats I just gave you one right there you know I love stats yeah I love the fact that four players LeBron has played with made all-star teams without LeBron either before or after LeBron nobody Michael ever played made the all-star team before or after him nobody so so if you make all he made Scottie Pippen so that's his only this loan it's like Tonto to The Lone Ranger yes or what what's the here's the thing what also made this team so successful is that you can say you know what hole grant go lock somebody down Dennis Rodman lock somebody down pill blob somebody down I didn't mention her Ron Harper he never made it all defense team but give you know he play there before he blow that blew his knee out he could really really play who set the tone for that front line or actually the back line as it was you couldn't even get the ball across half court against him because Michael was in the middle all of Scottie you saw what it didn't get a 91 final can you tell the people at home what Magic Johnson did to Michael Jordan in the Game one finals what did he post on his kill yeah will you tell him I don't know I went there you were covering the game yeah I was there in 98 I covered the team win Michael Jordan was the lone all-star on tripathi a champ can you believe that is that ever happy when is LeBron gonna play with a 2-time Defensive Player of the Year hmm two-time defensive player yeah rebound the champ steals leader I'm waiting on LeBron to play water bill plate well oak widowed LeBron boy having an enforcer like oak yeah last year LeBron got to play with two all-stars multiple all-stars and it was Golden State and five I don't know interesting can you tell the piece the best player on the plane you don't mind me asking though former all-star that he played with when there with the other team can you tell the people where they were drafting at where they were drafting every year where who was drafting the team that these all-stars the Kyrie and Kevin Love before they joined it with LeBron can you tell them where their teams were drafting where their teams were drafting you're losing me you mean where the cows were drafting without LeBron yes obviously wicking with with Kyrie that all-star okay Kevin low in Minnesota that all-star yeah I never liked Kevin Love in Minnesota what you hide me tomorrow he made all-stars he's made five all-star team oh well I think he's playing it I tweeted late last night he's playing the best basketball of his life and you know it and I know it he's played very good the last three ballgames and I will give him credit but you also saw those seven games in Indy with Indy know so we come to the conclusion you and I both agree Michael Jordan had more help go ahead to rejoice yeah I think the conclusion was LeBrons play with 14 all-stars to only 6 for Michael no that wasn't a that one question huh who's had more help with the quest you think not having a all-star that just closes the case no Scott Boone never make out he got two top 50 players Dennis Robin Anne Scottie Pippen LeBron do the Cavs now look like a 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Length: 13min 31sec (811 seconds)

Published: Tue May 08 2018