Kobe Bryant vs LeBron James - Skip and Shannon passionately debate who is better | UNDISPUTED

Bill Russell is the greatest all-time because last I checked 11 beat six numbers that what we do is kill so why hold on look at me when I'm talking to you you want me on this chair you leave in this chair six and oh and the finals were six indeed 111 hold on hold on so if you're gonna use that argument Joe Montana steel with the greatest because he's four and oh you see the Tom Brady should have been six and one what nine it could have been 3 & 4 2 & 5 but that's neither here nor there let's deal with what we're talking about Michael Jordan so eloquently eloquently stated five is more than three so within what mathematics is six more than eleven Bill Russell has the other evidence but you know why they say Michael's the greatest because there are other things that go into it MVP's all MBAs lead the league in scoring okay let's just take it on his face value Kobe Bryant five titles LeBron three check Kobe MVPs regular-season LeBron James for Kobe Bryant one LeBron James is one of five men that's one four or more MVPs he's one of two men that win two in two different locations he won two and to Cleveland in Miami Kareem is three and three Milwaukie and the Lakers you get that to who right okay final MVP LeBron has three Kobe has two LeBron James has led his team in scoring every year 14 years in a row Kobe Bryant did not lead his team in scoring - first year into year 7 check check LeBron so by any numericals fans if all you're looking at the championships Bill Russell is the greatest player ever but if you're taking other things into consideration people want to say Michael Jordan so if you're just looking at Championships if that's the criteria that we're gonna use and it seems to be that's the criteria that Michael Jordan is using why do we keep anointing him to go because 11 is way more than six and Bill Russell in 13 years went to 12 final he lost 111 in one the man even got enough food he got enough finger to put all the rings on hmm and you Michael Jordan go we sit atop my heater goat you not to go bill Russell's to go mmm bill didn't you come out with some Russell shoes mmm champ man tell me when you're finish market he'll jump man Bill Russell champ man tell me when it's my turn look I need you just did it give me a favor give me a finger jaebaek Duvall at one finger hold on one thing Jeannie I'm helping you have a check man right now I ain't living I feel ill nothing many chances got a little wait your turn and lame was your argument and I'm going to shoot a lot of holes and I want you to I don't know what right it occurred to me while I was listening to your baloney that I will give you this LeBron James is on his way to becoming the greatest regular-season player and in doubt about that no war but okay okay you know last night when I was thinking about this two things occurred to me and the first was I went back to 2009 when I was on the old show and there was these commercials that came out remember the puppet commercials you remember yeah Kobe versus LeBron puppet yes right yes and could we see that quickly just for a second just to remind everybody how great it was at that point have you seen my three championship ring cuz I seem to have misplaced my three championship ring cozy I'm busy and they represent the three championships and I myself would maybe you should check your championship rings display cakes good it was david alan grier as the voice of Kobe and Kenan Thompson as the voice of LeBron and it was great it was great we had the privilege and honor I got to make a commercial a digital commercial with the two puppets something did you yes and it reminded me of the time when the reason for the commercials was that they were on collision course to meet in the finals and it was gonna be pretty much head to head because there was no more Shaq in Los Angeles right and what happened right on cue Orlando happened LeBron hit a shot heard round the world in Game two - even that series in Cleveland at one to one then they went to Orlando and they lost and they lost they came home and won and then they went back to Orlando got closed out in six games and didn't happen and then what happened the next year B 2010 still more Kobe LeBron puppet commercials they were great I loved him I loved every one of them yeah baby and what happened right on cue Kobe's doing Kobe he's holding up his end of the bargain and LeBron against Boston played one of the the greatest games of his career in Game three at Boston Garden remember that Friday night game he went for like 38 and something he was dynamic in that game he was unstoppable and then they lost and they lost and they lost and Dan Gilbert accused LeBron James of quitting in the last three losses to the Boston Celtics which effectively ended obviously liberal we know that didn't happen to us well that's what he accused him up and members of LeBrons inner circle leaked news that was broken on ESPN that LeBron had to be sedated before a couple of those games because of a locker room issue with another teammate so just for the record I thought that was a bunch of baloney but whatever that's how bad it got at the end of LeBrons run in Cleveland and Kobe versus LeBron did not happen right right it didn't happen okay so then what happened over the last three years of Kobe's career Kobe became unwatchable in it clouded your vision of the greatness of Kobe Bryant because I counted last night I think he suffered 22 different injuries over a five-year period his body just betrayed him it broke completely down do you remember it started with the shoulder then he had knees he had the Achilles he had a broke a couple fingers it was always something breaking for Kobe Bryant and he became a pretty pathetic shell of himself till that final night at Staples when he scored 60 and it looked like I was playing I know he shot but it looked like he's playing the Washington general like the Utah Jazz I think they were kind of all caught up in the moment but that was the end of Kobe as we knew and loved him and it was really three years before that so when I think back of the great Kobe Bryant what do I think of the most I think of Mamba mentality I think of from 2002 until 2012 every year a poll of GM's voted which player do you want with the ball in his hands at the end of your game and Kobe won 10 straight years 2002 to 2012 Kobe being Bryant won because he was the closest thing in killer will in assassins mentality that we had seen since Michael Jordan so when I do a vacuum of I'll give you LeBron is the more all-around skill player obviously he's about a rebounder he's a better passer than Kobe oh he's all those things but he's not okay but go ahead go ahead make a point not sure he's a better defender because Kobe made all defense of all time I'm just saying you kept saying he's a better rebounder he's a better assist guy yeah he have a higher scoring average than Kobe but I mean go but go ahead make your point who do I want with the ball in his hands at the end of my game Kobe Bryant that that's the last thing I want is LeBron James it came to this for LeBron in the Kyrie era he needed Kyrie too close for him really can I say Kobe needed a closer Michael didn't need closer okay you say it from 2002 to what year the Kobe they said January 12 2012 why don't you pick up at 2002 when Kobe Bryant came into the league in 1996 why did you pick up at 2002 ladies 18 the first year or so Oh LeBron James in 2003 came to the NBA he was 13 or 18 so I'm just trying to figure out why why I'll let you talk and I interrupt out on I'm just getting start no okay I'm just trying to figure out a guy that comes in the league in 1996 you pick up talking about him in 2002 so did 97 2 through o1 did that not happen so okay I'm just out for you just for me now I'm still scoring 30 a game I don't know maybe he hadn't become that guy Jordan asked oh yeah he didn't lead his team in scoring to yourself LeBron James been to lead 14 years well she was there my point that's what I want so other words so now that's what okay so worse oh so now you telling me that Kobe Bryant played with a great player so if LeBron plays would shag they have less than five they have less than three championships oh they have more so then LeBron left Dan Gilbert and he took his talents to South Beach and he joined forces with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh and Pat Riley right and what happened right away what happened in the first Finals they lost LeBron melted down the way we've never seen a superstar melt down in the history of sports the the guy that people are saying is the best player on the planet revealed himself to be the mentally weakest superstar we've ever seen would that have been Kobe would Kobe have allowed that to happen an NBA Finals you know and I know it would not have happened it would just blow a 3-1 lead to Phoenix you know I found out this is why Michael like Kobe because both of them know what it's like to lose in the first round LeBron James doesn't know what that's like hmm he's never known what it's like to lose in the first round yeah but he's lost six NBA Finals finals do you think that Kobe would have stood for losing six files cuz I got in with Shaq and you know I'm a big Spurs fan and have been for a long time yeah Kobe killed my Spurs with Shaq okay what's often more Kobe than Shaq okay I just would sit back and say that's just too good I'm sorry okay so from oh one oh two no from 2000 2001 2002 the Lakers won the NBA Finals who was a the MVP of those finals I know covered with known that team so who's the MVP in 2000 2001 2002 for the lake of when they wind up I'm your puppet master looked it up I'm just asking I know Kobe was because we pick up Kobe's career in 2002 although Jenny he was in league in 1999 so I'm just trying to figure out for me can someone my Twitter Follow I'm about to get 250,000 skill we don't catch all skilled bailiff how's he fake y'all very much yeah I'm just trying to figure out you pick up Kobe's career in 2002 so basically that's one year before LeBron gets into the NBA now I know for a fact that he came into the draft in 1996 because they've traded Vlade Divac to the Hornet to get him to Laker but that's neither here nor there LeBron James averages two more points two more rebounds two more since he is a step give you that regular-season game oh hold on hold on but you just you just talked about Kobe scoring prowess mm-hmm but the scoring not a step do you think Kobe Bryant would have needed Ray Allen to save his legacy wait to check your game winner I just take LeBron off the hook he just can ask you a question of all of LeBrons teammates which one of them is better than Shaq well in combination I'm not trying to open the lock I don't need combination I just asked you a simple question of all the teammates that LeBron James have had which one is better than the Diesel who was favored to win LeBrons Miami finals every time who was favored I love Africa if I do can you do me this one favor how are you favored to win a finals and you're the best player on the planet and you lose the finals by a record margin to the Spurs how does happen in five games you get blown off the floor and you have joined forces with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh I'm just trying to see what you do see when people when they generated LeBron they take to his top total body of work but when you're trying to make your argument for Kobe you pick up at 2002 but those seven years before that they occurred so talk about that when he averaged seven points a game when has LeBron James never ever ever averaged less than 20 points a game Kobe did it twice they were both the same age entering the NBA when winners Kobe Bryant win would any rival player ever dare to call Kobe bean Bryant the B word to his face as draymond called LeBron in a Finals game what about holding the B word drift child him a disrespecting his child's didn't call him anything he gave that 3 piece extra crispy Oh how you got locked up by Chris trials what the Christian I'd rather you call me what you want to but don't put hands on me man put hands on him pray for him right down the court in middle of the court bless his heart lower so do I want Mamba mentality or do I want LeBron's mental weakness I don't know I think the man hit you with a three piece extra critter with no sadly yeah you were talking about he got heart you don't think Kobe's the tough guy I'll bake his stuff good man hit it with a three piece that he didn't respond [Music]

Channel: Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED

Views: 2,902,353

Rating: 4.8461695 out of 5

Keywords: fox, fox sports, fs1, fox sports 1, undisputed, skip bayless, shannon sharpe, skip and shannon, fs1 undisputed, skip, bayless, shannon, sharpe, joy taylor, sports, news, kobe, bryant, kobe bryant, lebron james, lebron, james, nba, basketball, cavaliers, cleveland cavaliers, cavs, cleveland, golden state warriors, steph curry, stephen curry, michael jordan, kobe bryant vs lebron james

Id: WEyLMbVoHbc

Length: 14min 4sec (844 seconds)

Published: Thu Aug 03 2017

Reddit Comments

[u/Naywe]

Pretty sure most of the bad boy pistons didn't have nice things to say to jordan when he was on court. Like what was this supposed to prove?

[u/pjm9]

Skips show is ass

[u/O-G-Anunoby]

idk how that's supposed to take away from lebron as a player? He's somehow less of a player for being called a bitch?

[u/Capereli]

Kobe Byrant

[u/friskydongo]

I loved that late 90s and early 2000s Knicks team. Jeff Van Gundy coaching them and they were tough as shit. Guys like Chris Childs and Kurt Thomas weren't stars or anything but they were tough and didn't take shit. Spreewell was one of my favorite non-Lakers too.

[u/DeKobe-DeBryant]

Skip got destroyed in this argument, it was pretty funny. He had nothing to say at one point.

[u/euph31]

Do we really think that with all the shit talking that happens on the floor, no one called Kobe a bitch?

[u/Walt_Clyde]

Shannon cracks me up. If I am looking for stupid entertaining hot takes, I would watch this 10/10 over FT simply because of the fear I have of ever having to hear Will Cain talk.