What The Internet Did To Dune

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Has anyone here ever heard the  term media literacy? Oh. (beep)   I also find a lot of these people annoying.  Do not fear. I heard it's the mind-killer.   It might not seem like it because I do make a  lot of jokes, but I do genuinely dislike the   constant (beep) slinging of modern media  discourse. It frankly does cause me great   distress, and recently, I've decided I want to  do what I can to kind of bridge the divide.   There've been a lot of fights online about what  movies or shows or games are really about. And   now Dune: Part Two is out and people are arguing  about that, and that is the subject of this video,   and definitely nothing else. I see a Holy War against Hollywood   liberalism spreading across the  galaxy like an unquenchable fire.   Dune is a story about family and conflicts between  good and evil. The story promotes strong families,   discipline, loyalty, and earning one's trust. I blame the Bene Gesserit witches.   This is what right wing  cultural victories look like.   Being on the internet, I can't say for sure  if a lot more people understand the concept   of media literacy, but definitely, a lot more  people have heard of it, to the point where   it's genuinely become kind of a trigger phrase. I can say right now that there are some viewers   who just heard me say it and then instantly got  so annoyed that they clicked off the video to go   complain about it. And honestly, if you're one  of those, amazing work. You've done a great job   of showing that you are definitely not the ones  who are incredibly sensitive to other people's   opinions. To the ones who may have gotten annoyed  but are still here, thank you and welcome. This   video is actually for you. And to accommodate for  both you and regular viewers, I have mad libbed   this script so that you can each enjoy your own  special references to nod in smug agreement with.   Play us in, Gurney. There are two movies that   have been pretty infamous battlegrounds of this  particular discourse, those being the Matrix,   and more recently, two horses that have been  beaten so thoroughly that they now resemble   Kathleen Kennedy's dignity. Alternatively,  it now resembles the reactionary impulse to   complain about woke video games. The red pill, and even the Matrix   itself as a term, have become synonymous with  the kind of right wing political sentiment,   where the Matrix often represents values seen as  liberal, like forced diversity and inclusion, and   the governments that support them, or a culture  that pushes those values. Or the Romanian Police.   The implication is usually that, in the Matrix,  we are carefully controlled, and once we take the   red pill and free ourselves from the limitations  of the world order, we can become truly empowered   as individuals. The standard response is to  say that people who think this way lack...   Some have argued this is because of the  outward politics of the creators of the Matrix,   two openly progressive trans women who have been  pretty upfront on takeaways from the story they   agree or disagree with. Alternatively, it's  because they're ignoring aspects of the story,   like the fact that it's about marginalized people  rising up as a collective, not against some kind   of diverse lib communist state, but a modern  capitalist society enforced by an extremely   homogenous militarized government that ruthlessly  wipes out all its social deviance. If anything,   it's the heroic side of the movie  that seems to resemble a commune.   Looks like a bunch of woke teens at a Tumblr  convention, if you ask me. Alternatively,   I would like Trinity to step on me. I don't think either of these are especially   great answers. I've talked about this in previous  videos, but I really feel like if you go back to   just that first Matrix, you can kind of see how  we got here. The deliberately vague nature of   the machines, plus the way the film slowly hypes  up Neo as a chosen one Messiah figure, definitely   leaves the door open for a very reductive  society versus the individual type message.   The thing I'd point out is that the film never  really presents collectives as a wholly bad   thing. In fact, when Neo is shown as an alienated  individual, he's at his lowest point in the film,   and he's only able to become the man he wants  to be, with the help of a collective. So it's   not really about individuals versus society, it's  about different visions of society. And from that   point, you have to ask, what are the visions? The machines are a strictly enforced,   racially based hierarchy, where in this  case, the human race is seen as nothing   more than batteries to power the system. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this   planet. You're plague, and we are the cure. Morpheus' crew are a dramatic contrast,   caring deeply about each other in  their mutual agency and consent. Again,   red pill or blue pill. "Take the red pill" is  never presented as a command. It's a choice. Neo   is treated as an equal with the right to say no. So what seems, on a shallow level, to be a story   about an individual triumphing over society,  is actually about them finding their place in   a kinder, better one. Or at least it could be. Media can be interpreted in a lot of different   ways. In the same way an author can't tell  you the correct way to enjoy something,   they can't tell you the correct way to interpret  it. Authors aren't gods, and even they can include   elements in their stories they didn't notice  or intend. Clearly, the Wachowskis felt the   way some audiences reacted to the film went way  against their intentions, and it's no secret the   sequels were a response to that. Re-imagining the  one not as some unique religious role for Neo,   but something the machines have controlled  for, a trick to give Neo the impression of   liberating himself, while actually reinforcing  the system he thinks he's breaking out of.   I do think it's a good way to complicate the story  for people who came away from the Matrix thinking   it was just about the triumph of individuals.  For all the modern get rich quick influencers   who think they're escaping the Matrix by hocking  their atrocious social media courses, teaching   people basically just how to exploit others. Let's get money and get out of the fucking   Matrix. What do you want to do? What are they really doing except   training more people to be small minded economic  drones? What use is the success of an individual,   when all they're effectively doing is reinforcing  a system they claim to rebel against?   While I was in university, I often heard a quote  that was credited to Margaret Mead. I can't find   an actual source for it, but I think it applies  to this conversation. "Children should be taught   how to think, not what to think." Media literacy  should never be about telling people the right   way to read a story. Like regular literacy, it's  about your ability to read it in the first place,   to be able to break down and understand  what is being presented to you. A shallow   understanding of the Matrix might lead to a  shallow reading of it. I must not conform,   where the non-conformity essentially just  becomes conformity with extra steps.   You can have a weird take. Looking at old  media with a new and interesting lens is   the way we keep discussion going and learn  new things. I am somewhat infamous for doing   this in the past. Interactive segment, if you  liked those videos, I'll pause for applause in   a moment. And if you don't, please punch  the screen once the timer counts down.   The purpose of media literacy should not be  digging down to the one single correct meaning,   but to give someone the tools to at least look at  a piece of media and understand what it's showing   them. So what does this have to do with Dune? Plays as in, Gurney.   Hey there, kids, it's your old friend Duncan  Idaho. Are you concerned for your personal   security? I have been, multiple times. Did you  know thousands of companies are collecting,   aggregating and trading your personal data  without you knowing about it? Did you also   know you have the right to request data  brokers to delete what information they   have about you and protect your privacy? 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But the  story, as shown so far in the new movies,   is about a guy named Paul. Paul is the noble son  of the House Atreides, who is unwittingly wrapped   up in multiple schemes that ultimately lead to the  destruction of his house and father. And then for   him to be designated by the native peoples of a  desert planet as their one true destined Messiah.   On a surface level, it seems like a kind of  cliche white savior chosen one story. And I   don't just say white savior because it's a  fictional world where having no rhythm is a   good thing. Dune's author Frank Herbert drew from  a lot of different sources, arguably plagiarizing   chunks of the original book straight from the  Lesley Blanch's work, The Sabre's of Paradise.   But more famously, it's a take on the life and  works of T.E. Lawrence, the basis for the film,   Lawrence of Arabia, a story about a British  military officer who works as a liaison to   Arab leadership, and ultimately, becomes a  bold revolutionary leader on their behalf.   Although loosely based on real history, the film  falls into a lot of the standard tropes associated   with the white savior, massively inflating  the capabilities and importance of Lawrence,   while diminishing the actions of Arab fighters  and leadership, as well as downplaying the more   complicated motivations of colonial British  involvement in this conflict. It's dramatized   because it's a film, but it's dramatized in a very  specific way. Frankly, it just looks better for   Lawrence to ignore many of the other players in  this particular historical moment, some of whom   were much more significant than himself. Lawrence rushing triumphantly into battle   is a much more iconic image for him, than  accidentally shooting his own camel in the back   of the head and having to walk. This hasn't been  something historically proven, but then again,   neither of most of Lawrence's claims. The  purpose isn't really historical accuracy,   it's building an image. Again, an icon. So some people have concluded that Dune is just a   reproduction of this same story and its problems.  And maybe it could be said that regardless of any   deeper messages in the book, the fact that it's  so easy to get this idea is an issue in itself.   I think it's an understandable take, but not  really one I agree with. In fact, I think it's   a good first example of the shallow media literacy  I was talking about before. Because I don't think   it's easy to get this idea if you really read,  or now even watch Dune. Because at every turn,   Dune is not only a story about a no-woman rising  to the position of a Messiah, but knowingly   exploiting stories and legends planted by his  own society to manipulate another into serving   his own ends. Dune is a subversion, kind of. There's a particular scene shown in both the movie   and the book, but which I think is more effective  of the context of the inner monologue you get in   the written version. In it, Paul's mother, the  Lady Jessica, has what initially seems like a   threatening encounter with her Fremen native  housekeeper, the Shadout Mapes. Mapes reveals a   strange concealed knife and Jessica is instantly  able to identify it as a Fremen crysknife,   specifically naming it as a maker, a blade made  from a sandworm tooth. Mapes immediately does a   really weird cry. Then identifies Lady Jessica as  the one, becoming totally loyal to her. This is   because, as Jessica is well aware, both the knife  and her apparent intuition of Fremen customs,   are actually part of a long held prophecy. In  fact, they are prophecies already planted by the   Missionaria Protectiva to exploit for exactly  this purpose, to protect Jessica's bloodline   and pave the way for Paul's ascendance to power. I blame the Bene Gesserit witches. But actually.   We've all seen a million different scenes  in fantasy, where a character interacts   with some sacred object, and in doing so,  reveals their special mystic significance.   But the context around this scene makes  it incredibly uncanny, which is a feeling   that persists through huge chunks of Dune. I never really understood people who treated   Dune like a difficult read, because even just my  first time through, this element of the story made   it instantly engaging to me. It's like the whole  time, you're simultaneously reading two different   novels, where one perspective is of a group  of people who are aware they're in a book and   have already read it. Everything is calculated.  Even the idea that House Atreides would come to   Arrakis with their honorable reputation and  be treated like saviors for acting as better   autocrats than the last ones is a power play.  Paul is pretty quickly aware that he's being   positioned into the role of a chosen one Messiah.  He's also aware that his entire life and heritage   have been orchestrated over hundreds of  years to bring him to this exact point.   This is the constant duality of the story.  From the ground, it's this story of twists   and revelations. While from up above, we  watch predetermined events go through the   motions. It's kind of like colonialism. And who will our next oppressors be?   I don't like James Cameron's avatar. I don't  like it for petty reasons. Jake Sully. Cat   people look weird. Get those fucking feet off the  screen now. And I don't like it for complicated   thematic reasons I've explained in other videos. But it wasn't until I read Dune that I realized   it was this exact layer I felt was missing.  Avatar runs through a lot of the same beats   as Dune. Jake Sully is an outsider who becomes  alienated from his colonist faction and goes   native to lead an indigenous population in a  revolution. There's even the exact same moment   where Jake Sully exploits a long held tradition  for clout by taming a big animal. The difference   between Sully's rise to power and pulls is  that, Sully's is played basically completely   straight. There is no additional commentary on  Sully's behavior. And since this is also clearly   modeled after T.E. Lawrence-esque escapades, it's  basically doubling down on all the same problems   in a movie presenting itself as empowering.  It doesn't just ignore the issues of falling   into unquestioned idol worship, the background of  how these stories were used to cover for explicit   colonial manipulation, it leans into all of it. I think if you want to cater to some kind of   revolutionary spirit in people, the very  first thing you'd want to do is break down   myths that lead to their own exploitation. Many  people in history, especially in Jake Sully's   position, have co-opted revolutionary  aesthetics to manipulate well-meaning   people for their own ends. Like BreadTubers. Stripping out that part of the message would,   to me, be like doing a version of  I Am Legend, where he actually just   ends up being the savior of humanity. Why are you looking at me like that?   Shut up, Gurney. I remember not long after I first read Dune,   I stumbled on a clip of Stephen Colbert talking  about his lifelong adoration of the series,   the profound impact it had on him as someone  who was also going through his own adolescence   when he first read Paul's story. I first read it when I was not that   much older than Paul Atreides. And of course, I  was Paul Atreides. And I believed that fear was   the mind-killer, and I would let the fear pass  through me. And when the fear passed through,   I would watch its path, and when the  fear was gone, only I would remain.   But I didn't even realize it until just now I  went back and read how influential it was.   I see clips like this and I hesitate to be overly  dismissive of people who interpreted Dune in the   simplistic way I mentioned earlier. Clearly,  Colbert's love for the book was genuine, even   if he wasn't reading into it as a story about the  calculated exploitation of an indigenous people to   serve an empire. Paul to him was a straightforward  power fantasy. He was a character to aspire to,   and his Bene Gesserit conditioning wasn't  horrifying but inspirational. Just because I read   that chapter and found the idea of offering your  child up to ritual torture so that they can prove   their place as a civilized life form bleak doesn't  stop someone else from taking that lesson at face   value. Colbert had his own early life tragedies,  and I can definitely understand him latching onto   the idea of finding strength in suffering. Why do I include this preamble? Because a   lot of people have takes on Dune that  make me want to gom jabbar myself.   It was a distant portrait of the reality of the  oil and capitalism and exploration, the over   exploitation, exploitation, the over exploitation  of Earth. If this is what you think your film is   doing, I'm going to guess that it's awful. In this age of woke Hollywood and movies that   seemingly hate their audiences, it was good to be  able to sit in the theater, for quite a long time,   and enjoy a movie without being preached at  or told that I need to believe something.   My main takeaways from the movie,  it's unapologetically pro-life.   In this movie, because Lady Jessica is  pregnant, Lady Jessica is talking to the   fetus the entire movie. They show the baby  in utero. That is not a cluster of cells,   that is an actual character in the film. This  movie has turned out to be shockingly pro-life.   Oh, I just think it's a nice story of a  mom, better mom, supporting her son.   Is Dune woke? There are two burning questions that have   been on the minds of fans since Dune: Part One. Is  the sequel going to kick ass, or is it going woke?   Some fans were very nervous that the focus of the  sequel was going to shift away from Paul Atreides   being the Kwisatz Haderach, and make Chani the  hero, a stunning and brave Fremen woman.   Even if there is intention behind it, I'd be far  from the first to claim that Herbert's writing   does tread pretty close to orientalism at times,  and genuinely romanticizing a colonial power   fantasy. And let's be honest, a fairly substantial  chunk of that early fan base was teenage boys who   just found the idea of surfing worms and becoming  a chosen one God king of the universe pretty cool.   Before the most recent movies, the director  lined up to head the last attempt to describe   the story as "about a kid becoming a leader". Admittedly, a lot of younger fans were only   familiar with Dune in the broadest action  fantasy strokes, and this didn't get much   better with the 1984 film adaptation. For he is the Kwisatz Haderach.   Here's the thing. Excessive narration and internal  monologue is pretty common in a lot of novels,   even if some people find it irritating. But that  ship becomes extremely obnoxious very quickly   in a visual art form like film. I thank Shia  Lude the first version of Blade Runner I saw   was the Director's Cut. I didn't know whether   Leon gave Holden a legit address. Whatever was in the bathtub was not human.   Replicants weren't supposed to have feelings. I'd quit because I'd had a belly full   of killing. I actually think   this is as big a hurdle to adapting Dune  as any expensive set or effect, because so   much of that story is in the narration. The way that much of what happens is so   calculated on the part of Paul and his family  gets lost somewhat when pages of contemplation   are reduced to stray looks or a few lines of  dialogue, especially when Paul's Messianic   role means very few other characters ever openly  challenge his motivations. It has the advantage   that the audience really gets to slowly discover  the inner machinations of Paul's mind, but it   does make it harder to organically bring in that  dual perspective I was talking about before.   It is not woke. I was one of the skeptics who  thought that it might get a little bit woke,   and that Chani would be standing  abrave. And while she has her moments,   it's Paul's movie. He kind of goes through this  journey of learning the Fremen ways and really   becoming the hero that you expect him to be. So in the new Dune, there was a specific change   made to a particular prominent character, that  has pretty much become the most controversial   thing about these new adaptations. A lot of people on the internet hate   Chani. I mean, they really hate Chani. Since its current year, this Chani is written   as an egocentrical entitled bitch. Yes, I'm saying it the Frank Herbert   way. That's the way it was pronounced in the  audio book I read, and now I can't stop.   I've always felt Chani, in the original book, is a  fairly passive character who often does just feel   like a reward to add to the power fantasy element  of Paul's character. This itself can function as   part of the colonialist commentary, especially  with Chani's gradual lowering to the role of a   politically insignificant concubine, reduced  to an object of desire for her Messiah king.   Honestly, the fact that someone who has  such an extended role in the series has   so little to do made me a lot more open to the  version we now see in the films. Now, Chani,   once defined by her unquestioned loyalty to Paul,  openly challenges him, and ultimately, has enough.   It's a way to both engage her character infinitely  more in the actual narrative, and give voice to   a lot of things that were otherwise left behind  in narration. And they gave us the baliset. But   sadly, the movie is now woke. Sorry about that. I had a big   burrito and had to go to bed. So I understand certain objections   made by fans of the old books. When I say I  didn't love Chani's past characterization, I'm   not saying it was just totally insulting or made  no sense. The fact is, Chani in the books is just   much more of a pragmatist who always respects the  strategies that are going to put Paul in the best   possible position. Marrying Princess Irulan is  one of those, so she accepts it. In that respect,   modern Chani's character is being reduced so  she can be more of an audience surrogate.   But I still think there's a lot of power  and meaning in letting her act as that   vessel for the audience and their feelings  of bitterness and betrayal that come with   watching Paul's gradual arc. That is, if you  think Paul is deserving of that, which...   Okay. So you know that one meme where there's a  zero IQ guy and the really smart guy and the guy   in the middle, but the zero IQ guy and the really  smart guy actually have the same opinion? I don't   think it's as simple as, if you think about doing  this way, you are dumb. But I think there's a   sentiment that makes sense, where if you haven't  thought critically about Dune at all, you think   trying to vilify Paul is stupid, because it's woke  or something, or it is just trying to demonize,   frankly, demonize white men because you think they  just can't do anything good. And really, really   what you're doing is you're being subversive, and  you are trashing my beloved childhood heroes.   You take an old story that has many fans,  and you usurp it for your own needs.   Then you think about Dune quite a lot, and you  realize it's fine to vilify Paul, because he's   kind of a snake who does represent a lot of the  dangers of colonialism, callously exploiting the   outrage of the suffering to build his own status  and cult-like devotion, like a BreadTuber.   Then you have a mental breakdown during the  pandemic and read all six main Dune books   in the span of two weeks, and then read them  again and then write about a hundred pages of   notes about it. And suddenly, things  get a lot more complicated again.   That's when you start  thinking about the Worm King.   Media literacy is not about being the best at  knowing what the author said about their work.   I made a video a few months ago where I mentioned  a clip of George Lucas talking about Star Wars   as a Vietnam allegory. And you can analyze  the film itself and see that, but really,   it's just shorthand. It's not like this is  the only way you can think about it because   he did. George Lucas had a lot of thoughts.  It doesn't mean you can't really say Star Wars   isn't political. You can still say you don't  think about it politically. This whole thing   is the reason I've avoided focusing too much on  Frank Herbert's own thoughts on Dune. But I still   think it's worth acknowledging how clearly he has  expressed that, to him, this is a series about the   dangers of great men and idol worship. I think that the idea of power corrupting   and absolute power corrupting  absolutely is not on the mark,   does not hit it. I think what happens is that  power attracts the corruptible. What I wanted was   something that showed the impact of a Messiah on  history, as the creator of a power structure.   Herbert is, by his own admission, an  iconoclast, Google definition edited in   below. So he actually ended up in a very similar  position as the Wachowskis did with the Matrix,   having a large chunk of his fan base taken  up with people who took away basically   the opposite message as he had intended. Because I had created a charismatic leader,   you had followed Paul for all of the  right reasons. He was honest, trustworthy,   loyal to his people, up to the point of giving  his life for them if they wanted it. The response   to him was to follow him slavishly, to not  question him. I think that we kind of create   a vortex into which the Messiah is sucked. I still think he did a lot more to stress   that aspect of the story, but also, like the  Wachowskis, he decided from that moment on that   he would dedicate entire stories, specifically  to spiting this part of his audience. Dune   Messiah is the product of that spite. That book  starts with the declaration that, in 12 years,   61 billion people have died under Paul's rule,  at which point he compares himself directly   to Hitler and is then corrected as being  much, much better at killing than Hitler.   But the reason I bring up Frank Herbert's  intent now is not to strengthen the take that   you are only correct if you think Dune is about a  bad evil colonizer. Actually, the opposite. It's   about how authors are not the gods of their own  work. Because for as much as Herbert has stressed   a specific meaning to his books, talking about  Dune Messiah forces me to talk about the Worm   King. And the Worm King complicates things. I was going to include a drawn out summary of   everything that happens after Dune Messiah  here, but I'll just leave it at, Paul's son   becomes a 3,000 year old worm God, and leave  it at that. Leto II is a complicated guy worm,   and he's probably the best character in all of  these books, maybe in all books. I can't help   thinking Frank Herbert somewhat agrees with me  because he then dedicated two entire books to Leto   monologuing about his thoughts and beliefs. And those are the best ones.   So when I first started reading Dune, something  I thought was initially unclear was the nature   of Paul's visions. Are they meant to be  taken as mystical glimpses into the future,   or is it just an extension of Paul's highly  advanced internal calculations and predictions?   Like spice is frequently mentioned as a  psychoactive substance, and I wasn't sure   if it was supposed to be thought of like that,  like the brain making a bunch of strange, vivid,   sometimes highly enlightening connections.  Not that I've ever had a drug, Officer.   The existence of actual magic in science fiction  universes is something fans tend to argue about a   lot. And they have, for decades. In the books  themselves, there are conflicting quotes. But   there's one point where Lady Jessica says, "My son  didn't really see the future. He saw the process   of creation and its relationship to the myths in  which men sleep. He saw the shapes which existing   forces would create unless they were diverted.  Rather than turn against his fellow men, he   turned against himself. He refused to accept only  that which comforted him because that was moral   cowardice." So it's predictions, just to a level  that seems unfathomable from our perspective.   Paul commits mass genocide on the basis  of visions that tell him this is the best   chance for humanity. But actually, this  is all just things he, as a dictator,   has convinced himself to believe. That is also  how genocidal dictators often rationalize their   actions. Cut and dry, Paul is a monster. Guillotine. Guillotine. Guillotine.   But then there's his son, the worm guy, and he has  a stronger version of the same visions, and they   show him the golden path, the best possible path  for humanity. And that path involves being the   worst possible ruler for thousands of years, and  in doing so, teaching humanity this grand lesson   about never trusting rulers like him ever again. Then he has a descendant who despises him,   and then she has an even stronger version of the  same vision, and the vision says he's right.   Okay, Frank. The more layers you   uncover of Dune, the more complicated it becomes.  It's worth remembering that the basis of Paul's   rise to power was something that can be seen as  transparently good. He was the vessel through   which millions of people rose up against their  oppressors. There was never any question that   the Fremen revolution had a reasonable basis.  Maybe given how the conditions of everything   around Paul led him to this outcome, we can even  question how much agency really falls on him. Life   is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to  be experienced. Maybe Paul, not bad, but Paul,   inescapable. It leaves us with questions,  not about the trust we put in false idols,   but the free will we have in the first place. Frank Herbert's philosophy often highlighted a   very non-dualistic view. He saw it as ridiculous  to see church and state as totally separate   entities, just like it was ridiculous to see  the mind as totally separate from the body.   I think you do not separate any one part of  this from the others. You don't separate mind   and body and understand the human being.  We fondly say that, in the United States,   we separate church and state. That's an asinine  statement. There's nothing more emotional than   religion, nothing more emotionally demanding  than religion, because it is the promise of   survival. You can't take that out of politics. I don't think he felt there was a distinction   between the choices and inevitability in Dune, or  at least I don't think that really came across in   the books. And I think that makes his stated  goal of warning people about the dangers of   icons also complicated. In the end, even he can't  say definitively if there isn't a means to an end   with a monster like Leto II. Maybe this too is  a kind of inevitability, an impossible warning.   It's a paradox that's very hard to solve. On the  one hand, you can be critical and say he failed   to meet his goal of criticizing idol worship by  refusing to give simple answers. Or you can say   this was him living by his principles, refusing  to be the God author and letting it be just   decreed in his books, who is right and wrong? I  definitely don't buy Leto's scheme. I think it   has a lot of shades of Ozymandias Watchmen. Maybe by committing horrible atrocities,   I can actually unify humanity and teach them an  important lesson. The story about the dangers   of idol worship, the corruption that can  emerge from a society built around that,   that's a lesson I think is always relevant.  But we just lived through a global event that   killed millions of people. And did that unify  humanity? The answer, like humanity itself, is   messy and unclear. All I can say is, I definitely  wish those millions of people were still here.   Let's finish on a lighter  note. Gurney, play us out.   Incidentally, I hold the lap mic like this  because I like doing something with my hand,   and I think it looks funny. I also change my  titles and thumbnails sometimes because it   helps the video appeal to different audiences,  and I don't currently have the means to change   that individually for people. Thank you. Authors don't get to decide singular meanings   to their work. And often, that work will include  things that contradict or complicate the message   they want to express. You're almost never going to  get easy answers, even if by looking deeper into   the work, you're often going to get a lot more to  think about. That's one part of media literacy.   There's also the fact that media literacy  should never be at odds with enjoying the   work in the first place. Starship Troopers  is the other piece of media I see brought up   a lot in this discussion, particularly with the  recent popularity of the game Helldivers 2, which   borrows a lot of its concepts and aesthetics.  This is mainly just a film we're talking about,   which is quite different from the original  book. And it's a film that fucking rules.   The only good bug is a dead bug. Paul Verhoeven explicitly wanted to make a   camp action movie that also openly mocked fascist  tropes and ideology, with absurd propaganda and   a staged war in which a triumphant military  battle a literal swarm of inhuman monsters.   Frankly, I find the idea of a  bug that thinks offensive.   It's broken a lot of people's brains. Let's tackle a writing pitfall that   irks leftist to this day. If you make  your characters naturally handsome,   fit and well-groomed, then it becomes  increasingly difficult to properly   mock them. Beauty is evident, and all the  characters in the film are good looking.   It's pretty obvious that Starship Troopers is  almost impossible to watch and think you are   actually meant to side with the unstoppable  killing machine insects. And Verhoeven hired   a bunch of athletes and supermodels to play  the lead roles for a pretty simple reason.   The movie is stupid and simplistic, and is  meant to resemble the worldview of a tiny   stupid baby. That's what Paul Verhoeven thinks a  Nazi's worldview is like, a tiny stupid baby's.   The point is not, and should never be, that you  are not supposed to enjoy this because Verhoeven's   commentary is that the way Nazis see the world  is like a fantasy designed for children. It's   picking up on concepts of military indoctrination  and dehumanization, but that's not meant to stop   you having fun with it. It's actually a large  part of the fun. This is another one of those   cases where you don't have to take away this  message to enjoy a Starship Troopers. I just   think it's a very simple message to understand  and it doubles the film's comedic value.   This also applies to Helldivers 2, which is even  more explicitly this. Super Earth's Ministry   of Truth spreads propaganda encouraging the  endless patriotic deaths of millions of troops,   because they secretly keep causing bug  wars by farming oil on other planets.   Wait, sorry. I mean, Element-710. I don't really want to end this   video on a dower lecture about how you're  supposed to like books or movies. So instead,   I just wanted to emphasize this for people who  start reading these interpretations and then   getting defensive about it. You are not evil or  a fascist or a colonizer if you like Starship   Troopers or Helldivers or Dune and didn't pick  up these messages ahead of time. You can joke   about concepts or characters without being a  bad person. I just said the genocidal worm man   was my favorite character in literature. Media is always open to interpretation,   and enjoyment doesn't diminish  that. If it really bothers you,   you can simply enjoy the thing the way you want.  The goal is not to solve, but to experience.   I think Dune says a lot about the perils of  great men and the culture that pushes them.   I think it's a constantly relevant theme,  especially now with the rise of influencer   culture. I also think it's just an interesting  story in a cool world, and I like the big worms.   But that's Dune and that's media literacy. Have  fun, and beware of the Bene Gesserit witches.   Hi, thanks for watching. Viewer retention plummets  for obvious reasons once I start closing out the   video, so I want to keep this quick. Patreon and  viewer tips help support the channel. Liking,   commenting, sharing the videos also supports the  channel. I sometimes do follow ups when I get a   lot of responses. I'm not on Twitter anymore,  but I am on other social platforms listed down   in the description. Make sure to check out the  sponsor link. I love you all, and we will now   return to my axolotl tank. Oh, that's good stuff.
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Keywords: dune, media literacy, the matrix, starship troopers, dune messiah, paul atreides, timothee chalamet, zendaya, chani, leto ii, frank herbert, avatar, james cameron, critique, media, analysis, review, jack saint, lackingsaint
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Length: 37min 31sec (2251 seconds)
Published: Thu Mar 21 2024
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