SHOULD KNOW BETTER. MARIA: WELL, MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEN VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN'S CONTROVERSIAL TRIP BACK IN 2015 TO UKRAINE. WE'VE GOT A NEWLY SURFACED PHOTO, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PHOTO. IT SHOWS BIDEN ABOARD AIR FORCE 2. HE'S BEING BRIEFED BY AN ADVISOR WHO IS APPARENTLY IN COMMUNICATION WITH HUNTER BIDEN AND HUNTER BIDEN'S ASSOCIATES AT BURISMA. THIS BRIEFING HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE BIDEN THREATENED TO WITHHOLD $1 BILLION IN U.S. AID IF UKRAINE DID NOT FIRE THEIR PROSECUTOR. THE PROSECUTOR GENERAL WAS VICTOR SHOWKIN. HE WAS INVESTIGATING CORRUPTION AT BURISMA. JAMES COMER JOINED THE PROGRAM YESTERDAY WITH HIS TAKE. WATCH. >> THIS IS ALWAYS GOING TO END WITH THE BIDENS COMING IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE GOING TO SUBPOENA THE FAMILY. IF I HAD SUBPOENAED JOE AND HUNTER BIDEN THE FIRST DAY I BECAME CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TIED UP IN COURT AND THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE THROWN IT OUT. WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A CASE THAT I THINK WOULD STAND UP IN ANY COURT OF LAW IN AMERICA AND WE HOPE TO HEAR FROM THE BIDENS. I WISH THE MEDIA WOULD ASK THE PRESIDENT WHAT EXACTLY DID YOUR FAMILY DO TO RECEIVE THIS $21 MILLION THAT THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAS PROVEN. HE CONTINUES TO SAY THAT'S A LIE. IT'S NOT TRUE. WE HAVE THEIR BANK RECORDS, MARIA. BANK RECORDS DON'T LIE. MARIA: AND JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IS SOUTH CAROLINA CONGRESSMAN, RALPH NORMAN, A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE BUDGET, FINANCIAL SERVICES AND RULES COMMITTEE. CONGRESSMAN, GOOD MORNING TO YOU. YOUR REACTION TO ALL OF THIS? >> WELL, MARIA, IT JUST SHOWS THIS BIDEN THE ADMINISTRATION DOES NO ENDS. THEY'VE GOT RECORDS THAT DON'T LIE. THEY'VE GOT LETTERS DATING BACK TO THE VICE PRESIDENT WITH DEVON ARCHER SAYING THAT HE NEEDS BE AT THE MEETING, SORRY I COULDN'T BE. WHAT MORE DO THEY NEED, DO WE NEED TO START AN INQUIRY. WOULD ANY AMERICAN, ANY AMERICAN ACROSS THIS GREAT COUNTRY GET BY WITH WHAT JOE BIDEN HAS. THIS IS A TIP OF THE ICEBERG. WHERE WERE THE FBI WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT IN 2011, 2012, WHERE WAS THE CIA? WHERE IS THE IRS ASKING QUESTIONS. IT TAKES A COMMITTEE. WE'VE BEEN IN POWER SINCE JANUARY, TO UNEARTH ALL OF THIS. IT'S AN INSULT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. MARIA: IT'S PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS, I AGREE WITH THAT. WE'RE GETTING DRIPS AND DRABS FROM THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. YET THE DEMOCRATS WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT. THIS IS SOMETHING BOTH SIDES SHOULD AGREE ON. WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY IN THE WHITE HOUSE SELLING INFLUENCE AND POCKETING THE CASH AND MAKING POLICY DECISIONS. >> THIS PRESIDENT PROMISED TO BE THE MOST TRANSPARENT PRESIDENT KNOWN TO MAN. WHY DID HE VOLUNTEER THIS? HE'S THROWN UP EVERY ROADBLOCK TO PREVENT THIS. IF HE'S THAT HONEST, HE THINKS HE CAN GET BY WITH JUST SAYING I'M INNOCENT. COULD ANY AMERICAN GET BY WITH JUST SAYING THAT? NO. THE EVIDENCE POINTS OTHERWISE. AND WE'RE GOING TO DRAG HIM IN OR DRAG HIS PEOPLE IN AND GET MORE INFORMATION. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE AN INQUIRY THAT BROADENS THE SCOPE OF WHAT JAMES COMER'S COMMITTEE CAN DO AND LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE JUDGE, LET THEM SEE AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL COME SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. MARIA: EQUALLY AS EXTRAORDINARY, CONGRESSMAN, IS THE FACT THAT ALL OF THIS EVIDENCE KEEPS FLOWING OUT AND YET THE DOJ CONTINUES ATTACKING DONALD TRUMP, SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH IS PROPOSING THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT JANUARY 6th TRIAL BEGIN ON JANUARY 2nd OF NEXT YEAR. THAT IS JUST WEEKS BEFORE THE IOWA CAUCUSES, CONGRESSMAN. SO THIS IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE DONALD TRUMP TO BE ON. TRIAL. YOUR THOUGHTS? >> THEIR INTENT IS TO TRY TO DETRAIL DONALD TRUMP. THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB. THE JOB IS TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH. THE JOB FOR THE 87,000 IRS AGENTS STARTS AT PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. THEY P SHOULDN'T GO AFTER ANYBODY LIKE THEY'RE GOING AFTER DONALD TRUMP. BUT THE FACT IS, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF IT AND WE'RE FINDING OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND, AGAIN, NO AMERICAN COULD GET BY WITH WHAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS GOTTEN BY WITH AND JUST TO SAY HE'S INNOCENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. MARIA: IT'S QUITE IRONIC THAT JOE BIDEN KEEPS TELLING EVERYBODY TO PAY OUR FAIR SHARE AND HE'S EVEN WANTING TO GO AFTER WAITRESS TIPS AT RESTAURANTS AND YET LOOK AT THE $20 MILLION THAT JAMES COMER TOLD US ABOUT YESTERDAY THAT THERE WERE NO TAXES PAID ON THAT $20 MILLION AND OF COURSE HE ADMITTED TO TAX EVASION, HUNTER DID. MEANWHILE, THIS IS CLEARLY A PRIORITY WHEN YOU ALL GET BACK IN SEPTEMBER. THE OTHER PRIORITY IS THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING OUT OF MONEY AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND YET THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOW ASKING CONGRESS FOR MORE MONEY. JOE BIDEN WANTS $40 BILLION IN SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR THE START OF THE COMING FISCAL YEAR. THEY WANT $24 BILLION IN AID FOR UKRAINE, AN ADDITIONAL $24 BILLION AFTER THE TENS OF BILLIONS WE SENT ALREADY, 12 BILLION FOR DISASTER RELIEF, 4 BILLION FOR THE BORDER CRISIS. I DON'T THINK 4 BILLION IS GOING TOWARD PROTECTING BORDER AGENTS. THEY SAY IT'S COMBATING FENTANYL. WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THE 4 BILLION WOULD GO AT THE BORDER. HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT CONGRESS APPROVES THE MONEY? >> VERY SMALL. THERE'S A GROWING NUMBER THAT ARE NOT GOING TO KEEP THE SPENDING UP. ECONOMIC SECURITY IS NATIONAL SECURITY AND WE CANNOT KEEP SPENDING. NO, WHERE ARE THE OFFSETS THAT BIDEN IS SAYING WE NEED TO CUT TO PAY FOR THIS. THERE IS NO MAGIC AT TO GET THIS MONEY. WE PAID UKRAINE OVER $100 BILLION. TO COME UP WITH MORE, THIS ISN'T UNEXPECTED. JOE BIDEN CAN SPEND OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. HE DOES IT BRAZENLY LIKE APPARENTLY HE'S DONE WITH TAX DOLLARS THAT HE HAS NOT PAID ON MONEY THAT'S COMING TO HIM BUT, NO, I THINK THERE'S A GROWING NUMBER OF US THAT ARE GOING TO SAY NO AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT BUT IF NOT NOW, WHEN, WHEN WILL WE GET THE COUNTRY BACK ON ECONOMIC FOOTING BECAUSE IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY AT STAKE. MARIA: IT'S QUITE EXTRAORDINARY, CONGRESSMAN
