What Makes Phil Ivey The GOAT? [Untold Stories]

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This show has been all Phil Ivey.  He's up over $330,000. All in - WHAT?  Phil Ivey is arguably the greatest of all time. Just a very intense and aggressive player.  He's always a threat in tournament poker. I wanted to win so bad, I paid attention   to every single detail. And Phil Ivey joins the   likes of Stu Ungar, Ted Forrest and Chris  Ferguson with five world series bracelets. I went through a phase where  I wasn't trying very hard.  I didn't realize how hard I tried.  Phil Ivey's intimidating. Watching him on TV, as a fan,  getting to play against him online and play with him in person  and even after getting to know  him personally a little bit.  Still sitting across the table  from him... It's intimidating  and I think it's a lot of elements  that add up to his greatness  but everybody agrees that he's  just excellent at reading people.  Million dollars first place money. The most iconic Ivey hand to me of   all time is that hand from Monte Carlo where he just doesn't believe Paul Jackson Pair of Jacks and a 7. 80,000 is the bet and look at this.  Re-raise by Jackson! Wow!  So, what the heck is he doing? Questions - overthinking - a re-raise  Well, there you are re-raises to 320,000. It's right back in the face of Paul Jackson.  Raise! Oh my goodness, Jackson is re-raising!  I don't see how he can  possibly continue in this hand.  I'm all in! WHAT!?  That's why we're here and they're there. Phil Ivey is the guy who did not blink.  Watching this hand was like witnessing great art. It's absurd and wonderful at the same time. The first time I heard of Phil Ivey was when I saw him play in the main event in 2003  when Chris Moneymaker won  and the Poker boom started.  At this point I was a fan, I didn't play poker. I didn't really know what I was doing  but still watching him play, hearing the commentators talk   about the way that he played. He seemed impressive. And it's Phil Ivey, one of the  great young superstars of Poker.  Just a very intense and aggressive player, who knows how to read other players  and he's equally difficult to  read for the other players.  So he's always a threat in tournament poker. The most impressive to me what really stood out  and burned into my memory was when very deep in the tournament, he...  I believe final table  bubbled on a really bad beat. [Cheering / Screaming] An incredible knockout blow  for probably the best player  left in the tournament. So he got his money in great. It didn't work out, he lost.  And I had seen other people  throughout the main event broadcast,  celebrate when they won,  I'd see people get upset when they lost and this was a massive massive spot where he lost  and he just said: "Good game" and walked away. That absolutely was etched into my mind. In my eyes and the eyes of all my peers, there were really only two   guys that were playing online and also playing in the big televised cash games  who were really really good. And that was Patrik Antonius and Phil Ivey.  But Patrik started online, whereas Phil Ivey was really   the only true live first crusher online and he actually, he didn't just crush online,  he was the biggest winner online  for years and years and years.  I was playing my low stakes and I watched him on High Stakes Poker.  I watched him on TV poker and he was just this Enigma  that was so calm and quiet at the tables but played a really aggressive, really tough style  and it was very clear, so obvious that he had   the respect of everybody at the table. Phil Ivey is definitely the best all   around poker player in the world. He's the most feared player   pretty much in any game. And Phil Ivey joins the   likes of Stu Ungar, Ted Forrest and Chris  Ferguson with five world series bracelets.  I think you see a lot of great players at  the table like Patrik Antonius and Tom Dwan.  But until Phil Ivey's knocked off that pedestal, I don't see anyone else challenging him yet. My most memorable hand against Phil Ivey is  definitely the first time that we played.  $300/$600, it's the first time I ever  played $300/$600 No Limit online.  I sat down with him, heads up. And it's about three   hands into the heads up match. I was dealt pocket 4's in the big blind,  he raised the small blind, I called. Flop was 10-9-4 two-tone.  And I check-raise. He puts in the 3-bet.  I shoved my $60k in happily. And he snap called with top set.  Which sent me packing back to  $100/$200, $200/$400 for a while  before I tried those stakes again. Back in 2013 or so we were   playing online $200/$400 PLO heads up and at this point at PLO specifically I did   feel like I was stronger than him as a player and we've been playing for a little bit  and I returned the favor of the  $300/$600 game all those years ago  and I set over set him for a $80k pot or so and I immediately get a phone call from Phil Ivey  and so I look and I'm like I don't... I don't know,  we're playing heads up online  the decisions come fast,  I don't really want to answer the phone. I don't like talking on the phone in general,  but it's Phil Ivey... So I answer the phone...  You know: "Hello" and he just says: "That easy huh?"  I just, you know, awkwardly laugh and I'm like:  "Yeah, I mean it is... it is that easy". I didn't know how to hang up.  And he just kept talking and we're still playing $200/$400.  These are very high stakes, you know there's $120,000 on the table at least.  I'm thinking to myself... He's probably going to   get reads on me through the phone. I really don't want to be on the call,  but I was also too I guess  nervous to hang up on him.  So we just sat and played there for a while, talking about, I don't know what,   I don't really remember. Looking back on that,  I just think that the combination of the  fear that Phil Ivey strikes in his opponents  that intimidation factor that he has  going on combined with his fearlessness  really creates a disparity in focus. Because he has his opponents uncomfortable,   uneasy. Whereas he   appears to be completely fearless at the table and just make whatever play he thinks his best. He's also intimidating off the poker table and it happens to be his sense of humor as well.  So, we're filming Poker After Dark at the Aria. And we had a dinner break and went to get sushi.  It was Phil a couple other players and myself. And we place our orders the waiter comes   out after a little while and says: "Hey I'm sorry, your food's not ready yet,   the sushi cart is backed up". And Phil without missing a beat   just says: "The sushi cart's backed up?" "I lose $3 million here this week and the   sushi cart's backed up Okay."  And I'm sitting there and I  don't know if he's serious,  maybe he was playing craps  earlier and he lost $3 million,  I don't know. The waiter is uncomfortable,   nobody saying anything and then he smiles  and we realize that he's joking.  He probably enjoys intimidating  people at the poker table  and I think he seems to enjoy  it off the table as well. There was a site, high stakes DB that tracked   the results in all the online high stakes games and they would have a leaderboard every year  of the biggest winners and biggest losers. And an over time leaderboard.  And in 2008, I had my best year ever online,  I won about $8 million and I remember it being December of that year  and I was second on the leaderboard to Phil Ivey and I really wanted to beat him and I put in extra   hours just trying to... Essentially get lucky   to have a big heater at the end. He was maybe a million ahead of me or less.  It didn't happen, I finished in second  and I talked to him about it later, referencing the leaderboard race  and he had no idea what I was talking about. He never heard of the site,  he didn't know that he was  the biggest winner that year.  He didn't care. So after playing a lot with   Ivey at the high stakes online, it was really interesting,  because he had the highest continuation  bet percentage of everybody that we played.  And normally when somebody  has an extreme stat like that,  it means that they're making a mistake and in theory he was making a mistake  but it just worked for him. He just crushed.  There was nobody else that I played against,  that would bet the flop so  often and bet the turn so often  and it's funny that one random  hand is stuck in my mind,  where I check-called twice with bottom pair in a spot where he c-bet twice   with an under pair to top pair and then checked back the river and won.  His style really frustrated me and  I had a hard time adjusting to it. People think about how Phil's a good hand reader,  they think about how he's fearless. Nobody talks or thinks about how smart he is.  And you kind of have to be extremely intelligent to play at the level that he plays at  but because he doesn't talk about poker. He's never really talking strategy  and actually the few times that he does he doesn't speak in the way  that my generation of online  people speak about hand analysis.  I think people don't realize just  how incredibly intelligent he is.  If you're going to be one  of the best in the world.  You just have to be extremely smart. There's no way around it. Staying interested, and wanting to educate yourself  and learn new things is really... has really been a big part of my life  but the problem is that once I get into something I really get into it.  You know like, if I start like a video game,  I have to set a timer because  I'll play the video game all day. Whenever I played against Ivey, he's one of only two people,  the other one being Viktor Blom, who I felt like were a step   ahead of me in the leveling war. Yes, that requires EQ (Emotional Intelligence).  You need to understand how people think and how people tick  but it requires a lot of IQ as well. You need to think about  what the implications of how  people might adjust would be.  You have to think about all the things that have happened in recent history at the table.  Or, long-standing history at the table. How your opponent might react to that  and what you should do about it. And I mean,  Ivey, he's just... a killer at that.  It's there's no other way to put it. I wanted to win so bad,  like I paid attention to every single detail  of everything that was going on in the game.   And being focused in like, you know trying really hard,  you know like I didn't realize until I went through a phase where   I wasn't trying very hard, I didn't realize how hard I tried.  You don't see many people with that. A lot of things like I took for granted  like being able to like  understand people's energies  and like body language stuff and like you know,  I just... I just knew intuitively. One thing I noticed about Phil and his  game after the advent of Poker solvers  is that he started taking more unorthodox lines. You know he wasn't the studious type  in the same way that a lot of my generation were. He wasn't studying the solvers.  He wasn't analyzing stats. I don't think he had a database of stats   like the rest of us did when he played online. But he noticed that other players were  and he saw them getting better and more comfortable in all of these normal lines.  And so it was kind of like he's taking them out of the boxing ring,  where there is like technicalities and just into a street fight,  where he knew that he could one up them. If everybody had to think on the fly  and I love seeing that from him because I agree with him that  in the posts solver era, a lot of people feel there's only one way to play  but you can absolutely get people  outside of their comfort zones  and outside of the lines they've  studied backwards and forwards  into spots where you're  playing poker like we used to.  You know, a decade and a half, two decades ago. That's the kind of Poker that   I think is the most fun. It's clearly the kind of Poker   that Phil Ivey thinks is the most fun and it's also where his strengths lie. And what a fold there by Ivey. Checks back the flop  and just folds to the overbet on the turn and he is correct.  I would bet a lot of money that pre 2018/2019 maybe 2020,  Phil Ivey wasn't studying with any of  the tools that the online guys were  to see him continue to compete  in the High Roller tournaments  against players who are so technically  sound at a game that is so technical,  like when you're playing 300  big blinds deep in a cash game,  you can take people to the streets. But when you're playing 15 big   blinds deep in a high roller tournament, you need to understand the technicalities.  So, I don't know if he's  started studying with solvers  but he's still managing to compete with everybody and so it would definitely not surprise me,  if he's been looking at some charts finally. Phil Ivey is a bit of an enigma. I think to many his personality is not well known.  To the public he's mostly  just stoic at the poker table.  But I have hung out with him a couple  of times and gotten to know him.  So, I was living in New York and Phil Ivey was in town,  as was "LarsLuzak" (aka) Sami Kelopuro. So my friend and I met up with   Lars and his friend for drinks. Around the corner from my condo.  We started drinking our drinks and Lars or his friend had   already gone back to the bar and gotten the next round and had   somehow finished theirs in the meantime. So, I was trying really hard to keep up.  I'm not a very big guy. I don't drink that much   and it was hitting me pretty hard. By the time we met with Phil Ivey at dinner.  I was pretty drunk and obviously  at dinner there were more drinks  and after dinner was the club. The cocktail waitress would bring a round of shots  and everybody would grab one my friend knew we had already had too much.  So he was, before taking the shots,  he just dumped it on the ground and then we would all take the shot.  He was just pretending but the second time that he did it,  when he looked up after the shot, he's locked eyes with Phil Ivey who   is looking right back at him, no expression but he noticed. I was not dumping my shots and long story short is I actually don't   remember a lot of the rest of night. What I do remember,  Phil Ivey had a driver and a car for the day and I was sitting in the front seat of that car  and just like barely awake. Some time passed probably  and I found myself throwing up all  over the front seat of this car.  We pulled over, all got out,  I saw Phil just throwing, I don't know how many,  hundreds at the driver saying: "I'm sorry, you know this to clean the car." We all got in cabs and made our way home. The interesting part of the story to me about Phil is that next morning he called me.  He asked how I was doing. He asked if I was okay  and I mean I think 20%-30%  was he thought it was funny  and he was kind of laughing at me but I do think 70%-80% of that was  that he was making sure that I was okay.  He was checking up on me. You know,  nobody else there that night  called me to see how I was doing.  So I thought that was thoughtful of him. Plus he got to laugh at me. Phil Ivey's arguably the greatest of all time. I still felt as though I held my own against him.  I don't know if at times I felt like I  was better than him or worse than him  but I usually was intimidated  by him at the tables.  I definitely feel as though he had my number, when it comes to results.  There are just some people  that you play against online  that the big pots tend to go their  way over a long period of time.  I think it's mostly variance, but it certainly gets in your head  and Phil Ivey was one of the few who  seem to beat me far more often than not.  I mean, how did he do it? He's extremely innately talented  and even if he wasn't studying  in the same way that we did.  I can tell that he's driven and I'm sure  that he worked hard in whatever way that was.  I don't know what way that was honestly. It's still a mystery to me.  90% of the reason that he  crushed is just pure talent.
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Length: 18min 50sec (1130 seconds)
Published: Fri Dec 08 2023
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