What If There Was A Continent In the Pacific?

the pacific ocean it takes up 30 of the surface of the globe and when looking at it from space it's so large that from certain angles it's the only thing to view there are islands in the south pacific which are just thousands of miles away from any other land mass and you know what in my opinion this is just wasted space there's only so much room on earth cities are overcrowded and then there's this large portion of blankness who can live here fish they got nothing going on so here's an idea what if in an alternate timeline there was a landmass right here cody please tell me you're not going to use some crackpot theory from a pseudo archaeologist to base this whole scenario off of this is the continent of mu oh god it was imagined by a 19th century archaeologist named augustus ley plum john and later drawn on a map by fellow mu enthusiast james churchward both of these guys and a few others really believed that the continent of mu was once a real lost land mass so trust me we're going to get to the scenario but i really want to talk about this first [Music] augustus les plancheon had dedicated himself to studying the pre-columbian ruins of the maya and piecing together the puzzle pieces of the past and as was par for the course for most archaeology of the 1800s he was just straight up wrong you see plunging was a big fan of the freemasons and it seems like the appeal of his secret fan club sometimes got in the way of you know archaeology he started seeing mason symbols everywhere in mayan ruins started theorizing about how certain dots in human history were really connected plonjon theorized that mayan civilization was the first civilization in human history all others had originated from it now how did the ancestors of the greeks egyptians and basically any old world civilization get out of the americas by crossing from atlantis of course this was the most tame part of the theory you see panjon deciphered mayan script or so he thought to conclude that this ancient society had a global telegraphic network that connected it to every other civilization on earth the mayans were also masters of the mystic and psychic arts for this new bold discovery panjon and his wife were deemed pioneers of metaphysical archaeology by the russian mystic madame blavatsky yes there was the psychic babushka that had a cult like following the late 19th century that's a whole other story plunge on taking this blessing and stride continued his research which had largely been dismissed by actual archaeologists after years of research plunging finally came up with his master theory one some of the images on the wall looked like him two the mayans were descended from a lost and great civilization that once existed on the south american coast this global empire was ruled by the great queen moo queen moo had secret and arcane knowledge of freemasonry that she passed on to ancient egypt klonjon concluded that when queen mood died her civilization split off from the americas literally and then i guess the whole continent of moo just sank into the ocean the only evidence of its existence being scattered in mayan ruins and maybe polynesians who knows none of that really matters because the main point ponjon really wanted to hit home is that queen moo has been reincarnated like thousands of times until finally winding up as his underage wife after plan john's death his idea of moo was carried on by certain pseudo-science enthusiasts including james churchward churchward built upon this whole new idea drawing what the continent supposedly looked like basically by connecting the dots of various polynesian islands hey that looks good churchward proposed that moo was actually the origin of humanity and the guardian of eden home to a lost race called the nascars the nascars colonize the entire world and everything is basically the remnants of their fallen society and there you go that's why this land mass is shaped like that and called mu if you hadn't gotten the hint by now the continent of mu is not a scientific theory it was pretty much the accidental byproduct of a pseudoscientific madman who imagined his creepily younger wife was the reincarnation of a mythical god queen even at the time this was seen as an outlandish idea even if the theory of plate tectonics and knowledge of the ocean's crust weren't common knowledge at the time you didn't need to be a scientist to think this was batshit stupid today moo largely exists as a meme or as a basis for science fiction stories it's an atlantis without using atlantis and i guess it's being used by me today because despite the fact this continent never existed nor ever had a decent reason for being imagined it would be pretty neat if it did exist right what if this continent of mu actually did exist there is no ancient civilization or nascal's or any of that other stuff but it's just another landmass the earth simply had another piece of crust that existed above the water oh god plate tectonics first issue the shape this is just a big papua new guinea there's no getting around that there is a great group called aml official who specify and imagining realistic continents that follow plate tectonics i however didn't want to simply copy their homework when i think of mu i have been accustomed to this shape as flawed as it is let's ignore plate tectonics think of this like we just took the ocean crust floor and raised it up that's not how a continental crust works but it's a better basis than just straight up putting mountains wherever when it comes to imagining such fantastical scenarios like this at some points i really do just have to fill in the blanks i mean all of these videos at the end of the day are fiction but i do try my best to explain my reasoning for why something happens in a scenario it's never just random but sometimes you know for the sake of the video i have to wing it the only thing that's important is that this shape exists and the mountains are roughly around here with the breakup of pangaea moo was just one of the land masses that were attached to gondwana the southern continent now i say this because i can imagine this land mass breaking off of austronesia more so than breaking off of south and north america just by the nature of how the continents move because of this moose megafauna would be similar to other southern hemisphere continents home to megafauna marsupials giant birds now as interesting as megafauna are where they live and how they evolve entirely depends on their environment which leads to the question what type of climate in ecosystems would even exist on mu because we are placing a massive continent in the middle of the pacific ocean currents are going to be drastically affected which has major ramifications but in the meantime we only care about mu now i had to take some liberties but for the most part i came up with this map you can debate which climate goes where and to be more specific but to keep things simple the south is much drier thanks to that cold ocean current the north east and west would be constantly facing rainstorms and have warm humid environments in fact moo is pretty unique as a continent and just how generally uniform its climate would be considering moo is largely horizontal on the equator the only other comparison i could really make is europe which thanks to its shape it's pretty uniform in climate throughout at least compared to continents like africa and the americas who are largely vertical and very wildly in climate with all of that squared away when would people actually show up oceania was the last region on earth that was settled by humans so it's no surprise that moo would be the last continent that's fully settled as well yet even so there would be some parts of this landmass that simply due to size would have a longer history with humans than others mu is so large that it would span three regions of oceania in our history the distance between these regions was so great that there were periods between migrations now whether it would be from the south or landing on the western peninsula humans wouldn't arrive on namu until 1500 bc while polynesians of our own timeline had periods of discovering islands settling them and then going off to colonize new lands in this alternate timeline their settlement and culture would be radically different considering they'd be the soul culture group on a previously unsettled continent this would be a discovery and transformation of a land mass not seen until the americas would be settled millennia later which doesn't really bode well for the megafauna of moo that had been previously undisturbed for millions of years humans regardless of culture seem to have a habit of extincting wildlife that wasn't adapted to fear us sadly as fascinating as these giant beasts of moo probably would have been it's very possible that in our alternate world future humans would learn of them much as we do today through their fossils missing them by only a few millennia while seafaring doesn't play as crucial of a role in deep sea exploration it does play a role in close coast navigation and very importantly trade from the time of the ancient greeks onward another civilization in the far east would be growing in the pacific people first settling on the westernmost coast of mu a land of dense rainforest in melanis valleys while 1500 bc seems short compared to other parts of the world it's still a long enough time for cultures to dissipate evolve and split from one another polynesian culture would be more different from one another than in our own timeline because of all the time and distance it would take to actually settle this land mass the best example of this is simply this peninsula i can see this being prime real estate for the first major center of an alternate polynesian civilization it could also be incredibly diverse thanks to a range of valleys and mountains that would divide this land up much like japan eventually perhaps this peninsula may unite thanks to its similar geography and climate but for much of its history it will be divided with individual valleys forming their own city-states this peninsula would be very lucky due to its location smack dab in the center of a trade triangle the islands of the south pacific would act as a highway from one end to the other creating a new opportunity for trade between east asia indonesia australian aboriginals and the polynesian coast one reason i really wanted to make this video in the first place is i found it just fascinating how this continent would create an alternate trade triangle in our timeline there was very little trade between polynesians and east asian civilizations mostly thanks to the vast distance between the two and also because migration was a largely generational thing between islands in many ways this part of the pacific kind of turns into an eastern version of the mediterranean the waters wouldn't be as calm of course but the more enclosed sea leads to a series of coastal trade routes eventually a traitor will hit some form of land perhaps whatever this alternate civilization may be either city-states or a vast empire would be the last leg of an alternate silk road there never would be an empire that spans most of moo of course or even one that spans most of the west coast simply due to its size this coast is one of the most well populated places on earth think of it like moo's equivalent of the mediterranean the yellow river or mesoamerica or if there's some alternate river valley a civilization sprouting up from there i'd imagine just like how eurasia had steps and north america had the prairies this flatter in drier center of the continent creates a culture of polynesian descendant nomads ones that are disconnected from their oceanic origins and have taken to living in warm savannas without horses these wouldn't be the fast horsemen that could plunder cities they'd probably resemble bushmen of australia and central africa the further east we would go the newer the settlements would become as it still takes generations for people to migrate into new lands easter island in our timeline wasn't discovered until the 800s and it's very likely with the whole continent taking up space in this alternate world there's a lot closer land to settle either way population is far more permanent in the west than it is in the east while coastal desert settlements may exist in the south this is by far the least populated part of the continent but it's still interesting to imagine a polynesian descendant desert people [Music] often times whenever i imagine these alternate geography videos i can't really go into that much depth when it comes to say whatever the nation's names would be or where the borders are i mean i could but then it'd just be me listing off a bunch of fictional polynesian-inspired nations that i just made up i like to focus more on greater trends that aren't simply historical fan fiction and there are no greater trends in the scenario than trade and well colonization we've already discussed trade in the west but what about trade in the east as you see mu existing creates another cycle of currents right off of the coast of the americas while fewer polynesian explorers perhaps venture east those that do would encounter mesoamerican civilizations and empires to trade and exchange with it's debated how much polynesians and native americans had contact in our timeline we know there's evidence of at least some contact but never an extensive route that influenced both sides it's been established that even with small islands to jump off of polynesians still probably made the trip to contact the inca if there was a massive continent in the pacific this brief contact would evolve into an extensive trade network this would be a cultural exchange between the people that traveled the furthest east and the people that existed the furthest west i mean it's all relative but you know what i mean by the way this changes ocean currents it creates a natural waterway to travel to mu up the coast and onto the americas in some ways moo becomes the final connecting point in the global trade network a bridge between asia and the americas and because mu is so large it would have two distinct regions one more influenced by east asia and the other influenced by native american civilizations now i'm not saying that there would be native american civilizations on mu or that they would blend together but traits might be transferred as they always do through trade you know things like religious ideas writing styles borrowed words weapons and perhaps even animals and plants if i wanted to go far enough i could imagine that this trade would be the saving grace for the new world in context of what is to come in our timeline the polynesians largely were isolated from the rest of the world thanks to that vast ocean there was no trade with china or anywhere else yet with moo they'd be in contact with east asia and east asian diseases moo could be subject to pandemics of the old world and over time polynesians might grow a resistance to diseases that they didn't otherwise in our own history by the nature of contact and the gradual trade that would happen throughout the continent this means that polynesian traders in the eastern portion of the continent would introduce old world diseases first to the americas because they wouldn't be destabilizing any institutions it would be gradually over time the natives of america could perhaps grow a better resistance than they did in our own timeline when eventually europeans do arrive to the new world perhaps the aztec if they still existed wouldn't easily fall to a plague because their population would have grown to tolerate the same diseases that the europeans had thanks to centuries of trade with moo the americas wouldn't really be some new world left isolated columbus's voyage if anything would just be the last link in a trade network that for centuries had already spanned the globe in europe would be the furthest west that finally linked up with it which brings us to well i guess the thing i really didn't want to predict but it's kind of inevitable colonization so before we get to this let's talk about how mu existing would change everything you would ever know so here's the thing you can't have a continent that is this big exist and not butterfly so many things out of existence just for one the sea level we are taking the pacific ocean the largest body of water on earth and placing a massive new continental shelf on it this displaces an incredibly inconceivably large amount of water that water has to go somewhere else and where it goes is up sea levels would dramatically be higher if this continent existed simply due to how much space it would take up what that means is that all of human history civilizations being on the coast you know just scrapped them none of them exist at least as we would know them while it would be cool to imagine ancient china trading with the moo coastal china as we would know it would be underwater in fact every major center of civilization would be any new state that does arise in this alternate moo world would be tens of kilometers inland compared to our own simply put for the most part it just butterflies everything there are two pretty unsatisfactory endings to this first by any realistic standard moo existing creates a world that is alien to what we know that in itself is a pretty general way to end the video it's kind of a cop-out but on the other hand if we ignore science and just hand-wave everything away saying that moo doesn't affect the world as we know it and human history goes for the most part like we're familiar with then there's eventually just the rise of western colonialism because if moo doesn't affect the rest of history then this happens anyway it's a wall that always happens to be hit so even though it's unrealistic for the sake of finishing this scenario off let's talk about it [Music] the colonization of the pacific consisted of every nation just taking islands here or there so let's say european explorers come upon mu how does this happen there'd be two possibilities in how they would do so both portuguese both around the same time either by magellan sailing from south america and landing on the easternmost peninsula or by the portuguese who had trading in the east indies hearing of some large landmass by the locals and venturing eastward to land on the west coast themselves if i could guess it would probably be both like a pincer movement both sides of moo explored by the portuguese in the 1500s or at least the outer coast being discovered australia style poor portugal however as while they'd be the first to find this even newer world they by agreement with the church couldn't claim it as this land legally fell into spanish territory you know considering if you're catholic and you held this legal document by the pope in high regard and while the protestant world sure didn't they wouldn't get there first the spanish would love moo or at least the northern coast as the northern coast would be the perfect highway from spanish america to the spanish philippines a dotting line of bases and naval yards alternate spanish cities across the coast while it's still possible that moo isn't depopulated due to epidemics it's still very likely the native seed territory or grant land permission for the spanish to colonize parts of the coast probably by force eventually over time just like the two territories surrounding it the northern portion of moo becomes largely spanish-speaking polynesian people maybe even creating the birth of new cities and mixed cultures just like in every place spain pretty much colonized if you know spanish history you know what's going on here now also keep in mind there's still the idea of a lost city of gold and other myths that spurred early exploration move finds itself under the same scrutiny as mesoamerica did in our timeline whether or not the spanish do find gold i can't say yet i would imagine there are probably some other valuable elements that they would eventually discover spain could never hold all of mu though only mainly the northern coast and simply due to it being a highway this would be regarded as a part of the spanish-speaking world this strip of northern mu and maybe the western peninsula included spain could never hold it forever the dutch are the next contenders probably setting up shop on the non-spanish west coast this region just becomes an expansion of the dutch east indies valuable real estate in the east asian trade if the british french and hey maybe germans tried to take territory they'd be left with kind of the scraps the undesirable portions of the continent such as the drier south and colder southeast areas that aren't really close to anything and aren't really going anywhere else it wouldn't be until the industrial revolution where any attempt is made to go deeper into moo this continent would remain as mysterious to europeans as central africa was before the 19th century keep in mind this is still a landscape of savannah's rainforest and dense jungle the desert regions would have small strips of temperate coast that could perhaps be the perfect place for british colonies think of this area maybe being the third part of a british oceanic triangle if we wanted to bring the united states into this then spanish mu becomes front and center at any territorial expansion the americans plan to do whether it be in a surprisingly similar spanish-american war or just as a series of excursions to take it move for the americans becomes another portion of manifest destiny maybe being seen as the next step to take such a large portion of the pacific it may even be a refuge for religious and political dissidents of the americas the mormons settled in the interior attempting to convert the natives mu polynesia by the turn of the 20th century following this path that moo existing doesn't change anything by the way results in the continent following a similar position as the rest of the world dominated by empire until the empire's collapse and decolonization occurs and i mean decolonization did happen after world war ii so if world war ii somehow still happened i would imagine the japanese would try to take this peninsula and the americans and japanese would fight over this coast it would probably change the dynamic of the entire pacific war as instead of island hopping it would be kind of coast hopping with the japanese retreating even deeper and deeper into the continent not that it would probably change that much about the outcome of the war by the end of this long extensive alternate history polynesia while once home to empires city-states and simply vast tribal networks becomes divided along centuries of cultural shifting and colonization the tribes and cultures that changed the least ironically would be those that originally inhabited the places farthest from the sea kind of poetically those that kept their cultural roots would be the ones farthest from it so yep i knew people would complain if i didn't include that whole tidbit so if mood did exist of course we never could truly know what this would result in yet i do like to imagine that for at least a time had moo existed it would lead to a series of trade and connectivity between parts of the world that in our timeline rarely if ever interacted just by changing our geography we change history and i really like looking at this map and imagining what complex network it could have spawned so in the end thanks churchword and every crazy person that ever believed in moo your theories were insane and made no sense whatsoever but it sure did make for a fun thought experiment you know churchward believed that moo sunk beneath the waves in his book the lost continent of mu churchward says the civilization and 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Length: 29min 1sec (1741 seconds)

Published: Wed Jun 08 2022