Well, at least Linus' printer is working well for him. | LinusTechTips Daily Driver Challenge Part 3

hey guys there is a new linux uh daily driver challenge video over on ltt's channel uh i'm pretty excited about this let's take a look and uh watch it together anything is easy if you know exactly what you're doing but by the same token anything can be difficult or even impossible if you lack the requisite skills resources or knowledge that's the basic premise of this video where linus and i now three weeks into daily driving some form of linux on our personal gaming machines will change the gears and attempt to complete 12 simple tasks so with that in mind we've set a time limit for each of our tasks of 15 minutes okay so they have a time limit to do simple productivity tasks just to make it interesting to amp up the drama i've seen i've seen a bunch of people in the comments on my videos like paranoid people who are thinking oh they're just doing they're just amping up drama to make it you know blah blah blah to get those precious linux clicks let me tell you one thing and another all right if you're a linux youtuber you don't make jack squat from uh from ad revenue uh in the linux community because most of us know how to use adblock all right like i'm not doing this for the money i do this because i love what i do all right so uh they're them amping up drama uh i seriously doubt i i think that this is absolutely like sincere on their part so chill out with your paranoid delusions compared to gaming basic office work is much more mature on linux and for anything that's not straightforward there's a good chance that you can find a web app to fill the gap these days everything from word processing to basic video editing or even creating 3d mockups can all be done in a browser and often for free in preparation for this part of the challenge i practiced using play on linux by installing notepad plus plus and i hope that if i really need notepad plus plus is an interesting choice it kind of sits in that middle ground between notepad and something like vs code that's interesting that he would go with notepad plus plus anyway let's continue some other windows application that's going to come in handy for me here are the challenges you must surmount in whatever order you please cut and paste a file from one drive oh man i was expecting them to come up with some stuff that's really challenging so just like in windows control x and i will paste it to my kingston thumb drive it is done 3.9 gigs playing it back [Laughter] that's a weird challenge just cut and paste the thing from one drive to another trying to install teamviewer.txt i'm cutting and i'm pasting it success there we go only nine minutes later challenge two digitally signed this pdf i have not specifically installed an introductory pdf reader so this is the default digitally sign oh oh this is looking promising oh draw a rectangle to indicate the signature field okay do the signatures this size is too small to read no i'm just gonna sign it there are no available signing certificates okay man i thought i was going to be done this in like one minute what the heck is this about i don't know how to sign i'm assuming i'm not going to be able to sign it because i'm assuming this is just a a reader what is this challenge document viewer i know what i use on windows for this is is sedged uh okay sejda i'm gonna i'm gonna download sejda just in case this pdf mod i've never even heard of this this is what i use on windows so let's let's give this a shot sign new signature save literally when i've done this i literally just open the pdf in and then use my draw tablet to write my actual signature on the line and then i save it back as a pdf and i send it that's how i do it okay wait let's let's just open a random pdf from my drive here all of the pdfs i have have like personal information in it oh okay here's just a random pdf so if i if i instead open this pdf in you can import and then you can just come down here and just pretend i have my you know my draw tablet plugged in i can sign it with my terrible handwriting and then you can go ahead and export you can overwrite it you can export as dot pdf that's what i'd do and then you do layers as pages and then make sure because each layer is going to be its own page and then you can hit export and there you go you've signed a document that's how i'd do it nigeria add pkcs signing certificate what is this you can get free trusted certificates from the let's encrypt or we can use the mk cert tool what what is it adding certificates this turned into an ssl signing what's going on why do you need certificates what is all right it's clear that this is a thing that you can do and it's something that i could figure out if i had another half an hour an hour but unfortunately it's not something like linus is a really smart guy but i think he like makes things a little more complicated than they need to be like i don't know he i'm not sure like what his process was it looked like he just googled how to figure how to do this but like when it said there were no certificates available there was like a link that would probably tell you how to do it if you click the link um anyway sorry linus i think that is quick or easy i guess i get zero points i should have bailed a couple of minutes ago and switched over to my vm i failed challenge number two add a new font um oh that's easy i'm assuming this is just dragging it into the fonts folder that's not a folder yes nope i thought it was going to be as easy as just dragging it into this folder to be honest that's not a folder that's a program or use your share fonts true type there we go i'm going to put a font in here i remember when mission denied okay so open as root i remember when i first switched over to linux and i had to install uh a font and i thought it was really confusing because i tried to do kind of what luke is doing here where you know i uh tried just dragging and dropping but there's like easier ways to do this um if he like tried to preview the font by like double clicking on it he would see that there's like an install button that you can just click and it'll install it locally for you not for the whole system if you want to install it for the system you can do what he's doing here but also i i like delete and re-install uh linux maybe every year and a half or two years and uh by keeping it installed locally for me i can just move that forward because it's in my home directory and i don't have to worry about like backing up my fonts and whatever um so that's a nice feature done now if i load this again i don't see it hey font i don't think that's the name of the font night zone yeah okay sorry what is this k font view oh install do you want to install the fonts for personal use systemwide systemwide yes print the word doc okay here's my word document oh printing ooh this should be good print yeah theoretically i i haven't done any setup for a printer um but this looks like a printer yeah and he's got a brother printer so it should be pretty pretty easy for him you should just hit okay and it should document that was probably the easiest and best printing experience i've uh pretty much ever had i didn't i didn't detect that printer i didn't install that printer i didn't do anything printers okay hold on what was that printer hp device manager what what is this do i even have an hp printer it's a samsung that's going to be are you kidding me there it is samsung clp 310 series okay that was wait oh it found a driver um this just worked as far as i can tell but until i actually see the page i'm not ready to believe it right connecting printer waiting for benefit let's go andy let's go andy the light's flashing it's flashing come on clp yeah that's that's awesome uh printers usually are pretty good especially when you have like a brother i have an hp printer and not a big fan of hp printers on linux like they have the drivers for most of the time like the drivers are pretty straightforward but uh they they're not like native cups drivers they're like slightly weird proprietary drivers and it like really really irritates the crap out of me uh but yeah i mean whatever it's cool that it just worked for them that that's great i've never been so happy to see uh a page printed out of a printer but actually getting something to print is one of those things that pretty much every time you need to do it it's like kind of urgent and kind of a pain in the ass yeah no no i've been through this a lot challenge number six compress and send all the files on this drive okay um compress oh there's a nice handy little uh why is it dot zip dot u q j q f u well that brings up that makes me think that it's like a temporary folder file you can see the size is still compressing it's still changing nope it just is perfect why is there no like dialogue saying that it's working to a zip right here create let's uh let's check top gonna make sure things are happening holy crap andy you know what i think i just fell for the same thing that i said i wouldn't fall for again press here as dot zip it was doing it down here oh my god so i guess the the six characters or whatever here [Music] is just random gibberish while it's a temporary file this is not uploading i was kind of hoping that i was going to be able to do every single task in under 15 minutes the fonts task really slowed me down because i didn't realize the font wasn't called a font and then this one is slowing me down because it just took a long time to compress and now it's taking a long time to upload this is another thing that i definitely can do it just had some issues the use the the experience of kde just boggles my mind like i mean it's good for people who like understand it and who know how to use it and expect how to use it and all that crap but like for me boy howdy i do not understand uh kde let's see let's see how i would compress a file here all right let's let's just try and compress a couple of these here and let's go here and look there's a compress right there archive hey it even like picks up on like that pixels is a common name here between all of them and i can just say you know stock footage dot zip and we can choose different ones but that's broken uh hello let's just hit create my computer's like misbehaving today and you can see that we had the progress report here and the stock footage there there we go look at that that was pretty straightforward success i haven't been doing all of these but some of them are uh kind of interesting yellow what do you mean by compress and send does that email it or something well i mean there's a three gigabyte file in it so emailing it's not really practical then just don't uh include that video oh well i mean i already zipped the whole thing including the video because like okay i'm giving myself the points i could i could have emailed this to someone i think that's fine okay all right okay well you're the boss man that's what james was thinking right there uh i don't know should he i mean he gets the point right i mean it's like literally he's just battling the clock at that point like whatever right but luke actually did it so i think luke gets a point and a half if linus gets points i can i can do other tasks while i'm waiting yeah let's do that okay so and i love how he's like i'm gonna do other tasks while i'm waiting for this crap like he's already he knows this done he's just like fighting the clock and he's just moving on he's got other stuff to do i like i like luke that's funny a screenshot screenshot i can do screen i can do current window i can do area to grab i'm going to do screenshots are easy and i'm going to screenshot this bang it just shows up right here we're gonna throw it in the linux challenge folder and there it is there's a screenshot set up discord app to open on startup uh there's probably yeah startup applications add one choose application i've never done that on um cinnamon but on um on on gnome you would use the gnome tweak tool i can show you so you would open up uh gnome tweaks blue bloom like that and then you can go to startup applications and you can see discord's already there uh and if i wanted to add a new one i can scroll down and hit add we can pick anything we wanted it's pretty straightforward on gnome this is really cool if i search for a snipping tool it actually is like haha we don't have that but we do have spectacle which is a pretty cool little screen shotting tool so you just click take a new screenshot and then you can do drag a little thing press enter cool i did it nice now i have to make a shortcut oh man i got this too no you can't right click it to where you want it and make a shortcut so no i will find another way to do that link to file or directory yes this is a much better way of doing this haha for new link okay can i copy the location yes i can haha hey done i've i've like how would i make a link um can you yeah you can't do that you can do create a link and then you can just move the link on gnome that works never made shortcuts i don't make shortcuts in windows either wow there's no create a link button weird was there create a link for linus when he right-clicked i wonder if it's in create new oh no that's on the desktop i wonder if he right clicks on it it might just say create link and then you can drag it somewhere not the same but about as much work as doing it on windows connect to a network share this is actually crazy easy because while i am using samba on my linux nas it's a linux nas so yeah i just click linus and it will go to my share just like that i actually have uh my um like network share mounted as like a mount point through samba and then i have some of my clients like remote machines mounted as ssfsh file systems over the internet so that's actually you would do that through fstab and you'd have to make sure you had your dependencies for ssfs sshfs installed and also you have your samba set up correctly set up discord app to open on startup i think it might just do that by default the first thing i'm going to do then is just test that i'm feeling good andy i got this hey okay apparently i had already configured this it took luke less time to configure discord to start up at boot pro like doing it the right way than it did for lightest to to like not do it to not change any settings and just make sure that it actually launched that's hilarious to me so i feel pretty good other than digitally signing my pdf i managed to complete all of my possible challenges but that doesn't mean that the road to get here was as painless as what you just saw i've had a very frustrating issue where any amount of windows movement especially if i dare to have an even low performance game like ftl running will be very laggy whoa that's weird i have never seen that before what do you guys think that is let me know down in the comments why would that be happening um uh that's strange maybe that's a cinnamon thing i don't i don't know i've had a few fixes suggested to me that maybe helped a little bit i can't really tell none of them have fully solved the problem meanwhile on manjaro kde i've had a relatively smooth experience i do have little complaints if all i needed to do was run a web browser do some basic word processing i wouldn't have anything to complain about installing and managing applications on the other hand has made me wish that my popos experience hadn't been so discouraging nanjaro has a graphical package manager called pamac that allows applications to be installed in a couple of clicks but by default it contains only some of the things i need it can be unlocked to search for flat pack snap and aur packages which dramatically increases its usefulness but if this manjaro developer is to be believed these non-official sources can result in downtime the reason that the manjaro devs are saying that is because the mandrel devs test the packages that they build for the uh for the manjaro repo to make sure that it works but they don't test the aur or flat packs or snaps so they can't guarantee any of it is going to work but i mean most of it should work i mean the vast majority of it should work no issues fortunately i haven't really encountered that yet though i have only been at it for a few weeks but it's this kind of hit or miss functionality that is turned using my computer from something that i do for fun into something that feels more like work okay here's one miraculously the browser source plugin that i needed for obs was available in pamac through the arch user repository but the thing is i ended up only stumbling upon that by finding a post referring to it as i was fighting my way through attempting to manually copy the plugin files into the appropriate system folders which in fairness to me was based on a guide i found and actually got me really close i was able to launch obs but as soon as i tried to actually use that source it would crash now i understand that this is totally a power user thing to do but it's also absolutely something that a gamer particularly a game streamer might need i have had the exact same issue when when i was like doing regular live streams on twitch i wanted to integrate uh some of the more interesting features that you can have when you have the browser built into obs and so i went and had to like manually copy files over into the uh into the install directory for obs uh you had to download the plug-in and go do that all that crap and and i had an issue where you know it would crash on me and so i feel his uh i feel his pain with that one i wasn't able to install the browser source plugin as easily as linus was i did figure out how to get it to work eventually but in the hardest way possible because using my windows brain i installed obs by following the commands on their website rather than using my distro's package manager yeah if i had actually started with that the main obs install would have just included the browser source plugin to begin with yeah if you're if you're new to linux just forget about downloading applications from the website like just go through with your package manager and if it's not in your package manager then you can look for other options but always start with the package manager because usually i mean especially on like manjaro like linux that linus is on manjaro is going to have like packages that are like cutting edge like they're going to be the most up-to-date version you can get or very close to the most up-to-date version with stuff like linux mint or ubuntu or even pop os you're going to have a somewhat older version though if you're downloading like the flat pack version rather than like the deb version um those should be pretty up to date in my opinion it's an unintuitive user experience to not include the browser source plugin by default for all the main ways of acquiring obs people have been using this thing for years it's in there by default on windows it is buried under the build instructions tab but come on honestly some of my dumbest problems have been caused by my default file manager dolphin among other things it does not allow the user to copy anything into a folder that requires administrative privileges with no obvious way to override it in the gui and i've run into this twice so far adding insult to injury the community responses to this user who shared my concern that not everyone wants to copy files using the terminal and that linux should allow the user to do what they want to do with their computer well i bet i'm faster typing vim slash whatever then then you are opening dolphin and navigating with mouse clips clicks even without using the tab completion but i know that's not your point what the why would you type that i can see where linus is coming from with this one i really i can see where he's coming from linus is coming from the windows world right he's coming from the windows world where basically anything you want to delete system 32 you can right click on it and and go and just hit yes you know what i'm saying it's not quite that simple but you understand what i'm saying right like the the amount of times that you have to like go into the windows files and like mess around with like dlls and stuff that actually happens sometimes on linux like besides like the first year or so that i was using linux and still in that kind of windows mindset like i can i swear to you i have not modified uh like slash usr or like done any like modifications to like deep system files except for like configuration files in you know in the terminal like an example would be uh fstab right so i can see where he's coming from but at the same time he like bypassed the gui and deleted his entire uh graphical interface so um yeah you should i mean i can see where he's coming from like you know having like the the user account control pop up and say are you are you sure you want to do this you you will grant your privilege to do this one thing one time just click yes so a court from from what i understand dolphin actually cannot be opened as root that's an issue with dolphin itself but and and i can see where linus is coming from you know just wanting to click and drag something into a directory a lot luke actually did that in this video right because he's on cinnamon i think he's using a nautilus or a fork of nautilus but yeah i mean by the same token you don't need to do that because like all you have to do is copy it into your home directory where you already have write permissions if you're installing a theme for example if you're installing if you're modifying like low level like uh system objects and stuff you're probably like there's a better way to do it and it really depends on what you are trying to do like if you're trying to install like a missing uh so or something there's there are better ways to do it like modifying the files yourself in the linux install is not the way that you should be doing it like this the system isn't designed in a way to accommodate users doing that unless you are like unless you know what you're doing like the package manager should be doing that for you and honestly like that's not his fault like he's coming from a different way of thinking about things right like it's just a completely different world when you're on the linux side of computing but i hope i'm not coming off as like condescending undescending and stubborn things that i've had the displeasure of reading throughout this challenge now i lost my link to the tweet unfortunately but i saw an interesting criticism of this series that basically accused me and luke of intentionally smearing linux and its developers because we were going to come into this with a basic windows gamer perspective and try to do things the way that they do things that's like almost everyone's perspective bro like what are you talking about the basic windows user experience like the basic windows gamer outlook on how to use a computer that's almost everyone's experience with a computer like what are you talking about like if you're if you're a linux user you're the odd one out man like not not the basic uh windows noob like what are you talking about well news flash guys that's most people yeah true like in your heart of hearts want linux desktop to grow you need to accommodate those people linus i do have to say here a lot of the people who have that kind of perspective don't want linux to grow like they're going to move on to bsd or maybe haiku or something when people like you linus come over to linux because it'll get too popular and they won't be happy about it like that's i mean honestly i want linux to grow it sounds like you want linux to grow so but but people who say those kind of things don't want linux to grow they want to they want it to be an exclusive little boys club uh and uh and that sucks but that's how they are you can sit there and go am i out of touch no it's the users who are wrong but you are you're literally a meme at that point yeah the only question is whether you're self-aware and hot well that depends i strongly believe that enthusiast distros for advanced users should stay advanced there is immense raw potential and an unfettered experience that being said not everything fits under that umbrella there are distros out there more for gamers or inexperienced users so for those systems we really hope that there's a lot of good that can come from us doing this i think they're also don't want to paint everyone in the linux community with the same brush because it's a diverse bunch of people with a wide range of experience with linux definitely people like wendell from level one teams jason evangelo from linux for everyone and gardner brian wait what oh from gardner bryant have been inviting and wait did he just laugh at me what a range of experience with linux people like wendell from level1tx jason evangelo from linuxforeveryone and gardner bryant from gardner bryant oh i think he almost said the linux gamer wait dude oh wow okay thanks for shouting me out guys i'm a little embarrassed i don't know if you can tell my face is all red have been inviting and supportive not just to us but to fans of the channel following in our footsteps which is super cool but something that the good eggs in the linux community need to understand though is that you guys are great and there's lots of you it's just that it only takes a couple of toxic gatekeepers to turn people off yeah like you got to remember it's not always easy for people to reach out and ask for help and if a literal developer of their distro goes out of their way to type extra unnecessary words to be condescending when they could have just pointed the user to the resources that they needed it is extremely damaging to the good work that the majority is trying to do yeah and there has been so much of that good work on display throughout this project that was awesome um my battery and my camera's about to die uh so i just want to say thank you for shouting me out i what the heck i wasn't expecting that uh and uh wow okay uh great videos i am loving this series honestly i think uh luke and linus are doing a really good job of highlighting things from a perspective that we as linux users don't often get to see and it's one of the reasons i think that having um some level of like telemetry in linux would make a lot of sense to improve the experience for normal people uh especially like the the basic windows gamer perspective whatever that tweet was about but that's gonna do it for now uh thank you guys for watching i appreciate you being here my battery's gonna die in my camera so i'll see you guys in the next one

Channel: Gardiner Bryant

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Keywords: linux, gaming, The Linux Gamer, steamos, gnu/linux, steam os, Gardiner Bryant, linux overview, satire, critique, commentary, criticism, LTT, LinusTechTips, Daily Driver Challenge, Linux Daily Driver, Linus Sebastian, Luke Lafreniere

Id: 2bhopXsYvQk

Length: 31min 56sec (1916 seconds)

Published: Sun Dec 05 2021