We NEED this to Work - Intel ARC A770 16GB Benchmarks

well hello everybody Mike here with Hardware Canucks and yes I am doing a GPU review and that is because I've got a long history with this guy with Intel's Arc because I was there four years ago at that event when the so-called Odyssey was first launched and ever since then it has been a countless trail of breadcrumbs from Publications basically talking about trusted sources that had this launching in 2020 2021 and early 2022. well here we are in October of 2022 and even now after all that time this whole launch for us feels like this like a red hot last minute Dash a last minute rush from Intel to get everything squared away why and that's because we received drivers at the very last second now that have fixed a lot of the issues that we are having with these cards not only that we received two can one two a770s but no a750 but anyways with all of that being said there's a lot of expectation about these new gpus it's a third competitor in the GPU market so let's jump right into performance with cs go a game that at any moment right now has about a million concurrent players in it [Music] oh my God all right look I think we need to regroup here for a second because there's a lot to like about Intel's arc on the flip side you also have to understand that there's a lot of growing pains that we need to talk about too but first let's dive into what Intel's launching first and that's the arc a770 and a750 the arc a580 will be launching as their mid to low end cards sometime later and the A380 is already out and about as an entry level solution right at the top is the a770 which is aimed directly at the RTX 3060 and it comes with either 16 or 8 gigs of gddr6 memory running on a 256-bit bus but if you're wondering about the so-called limited edition thing well think of this as Intel's Founders Edition nothing more and Intel will tell you all day and all night with a smile on their face that is allowing them to quote-unquote bring back the mid-range GPU Market but look that mid-range GPU Market was never abandoned all those prices just got inflated and nowadays they're coming down so these Arc gpus are actually going to find themselves in a really really tough battle against some of the best mid-level gpus on the market not only from Nvidia but from AMD as well not only that you have to take into account that Intel is not doing you any favors here if they could sell these gpus for a higher price they absolutely would but their price right now dictates a lot about where they actually lie in the grand scheme of things and from a pricing perspective here's where things light up right now with the a770s sitting a bit lower than the least expensive RTX 3060s out there and the same thing goes for the a750 against the RTX 3050 but where Intel might have a problem is against amd's RX 6600 XT and rx6600 two cards which make an awesome value case for themselves and believe it or not that's something Intel conveniently avoided to mention in all of their presentations now the other thing have to take into account is this is the starting at Price there's absolutely no telling what board partners and Retail Partners will actually sell these for until they're on the store shelves and speaking of these I do have to say that this is one of the best looking reference designs that I've seen in a while that's because Intel kept their design relatively simple but there's also I guess you would say a lot of Beauty in its Simplicity it's pretty compact at just under 12 inches or 27 centimeters long and the back Plate's a nice touch too but it's just there for Cosmetics not heat dissipation I mean it's a good looking piece of plastic but nothing else Honestly though there's nothing remarkable about this thing until you turn on the lighting on the a770 limited edition this has to be one of the best Integrations of RGB I've ever seen on a GPU full stop there's 90 individual LEDs between the fans perimeter strip and back it just looked absolutely incredible and every one of them can be controlled individually through Intel's RGB software but there's some things that feel completely out of place here too and this is this is one of them hold on this is not a power cord this is actually how you get the rgbs to communicate with your system it is a proprietary USB connector and that's not the only thing this plugs in right next to your power cables and just dangles there looking completely out of place I have no idea why Intel's RGB control couldn't have just been pushed over the pcie bus like everyone else does since this just feels half-assed uh hi I'm delanco3 ever since I learned to talk I can't stop these panels help you get inside but it's also kind of my mouth I'm obsessed with panels though I have more in the back to hide cables good thing I work out okay those three radiators the fans have not yet learned to speak but they're very pretty to look at and I love when the airbrushes against my metal skin I prefer them closer my brother is more quiet I wonder what he's doing thinking I was born to excel though find me below now you might have also seen that the a770 gets its power through an eight plus six pin connector and that points towards higher power consumption than pretty much anything else in its category as a matter of fact the arc a770s Peak power consumption is actually higher than the RTX 3070 Founders editions and it passes the RTX 3060 and 6600xd buy a country mile that's really bad news for anyone who's being a little bit more power conscious these days and moving on to temperatures it looks like Intel's compact cooler is actually doing a really good job of handling that 225 watts of thermal load now before getting neck deep into the benchmarks I did want to bring one thing up and that's Intel mentions that if you want to be running Arc you should be also running a system that supports resizable bar luckily most modern systems do support resizable bar with a bios update so if you're right running a slightly older motherboard just make sure that you're running the latest bios and check if that bio supports resizable bar anyways onto some GPU accelerated apps and like you might expect it didn't go quite according to plan but we were prepared for some of these hiccups let's start with the good news because when Intel's one API works for rendering it works very very well in blender one other thing we needed to look at is the final output and the final output for Arc did show some rendering errors it was really odd it seems to be an issue with one API and the way it handles this texture pack that this scene uses because none of the other test renders that we did showed this but those used different scenes in handbrake Arc has another really really strong showing against AMD but once again it just can't beat nvidia's nvank Arc does however have a little trick up its sleeve and that's full support for av1 encoding as more services start supporting av1 this could become an ace up Intel sleeve resolve performance well that's way way behind the competition but Intel's actually counting on their hyper and code technology to accelerate things a lot better than this unfortunately that requires an Intel CPU with integrated graphics and we're running on an AMD system here on the flip side project rendering and Premiere is clearly an Intel's favor against AMD gpus but Nvidia once again is still pretty dominant 3DX Max viewport performance what can I say well it works but Arc really isn't competitive here and in SolidWorks the wheels just fall completely off finally the last two programs show just how dominant Nvidia is in this field since neither Arc nor amd's Solutions even support GPU accelerated rendering in them and no amd's Pro render for Maya still hasn't been updated for the 2023 version so performance in a lot of professional apps unfortunately it's gonna be hit or miss Intel simply needs more time to develop their drivers and add new features and work with developers to add those features two professional applications but with that out of the way I really wanted to talk about gaming of course because you already had a taste with those CS go results I wanted to actually expand that going through the rest of the games as well first of all CS go has a terrible performance but it isn't the only one because valorent of all games falls into that same boat too it might feel like Arc doesn't like high frame rate CPU limited games but there's more to it than that you see Intel had to make a decision about where they put their driver resources for these cards where the optimization is going to be and for them they feel like putting it into dx12 and Vulcan games is better than focusing on Legacy API so that would be the X11 the x10 and the X9 and that causes a huge problem for millions and millions and millions of Gamers out there because the games that are played the most at this point in time are usually the ones that are built on those older apis like the Cs goes and valerians of this world so right away in Intel is going to be fighting an uphill battle when it comes to performance on those and then there's the rest of the games where one word really jumps out consistency consistency is something every other GPU has but Arc doesn't sometimes it's running right with the RTX 3060 and 6600 XT while at other times its performance drops like a stone to the point where it should be competing against much much lower end cards moving on to a few games with Ray tracing enabled and Arc is still hit and missed against the RTX 3060 but it actually has a distinct Edge over the RX 6600 series which is a pretty interesting development but then again we've always known amd's RT performance wasn't great from day one at a higher resolution it becomes obvious Arc has that issue once again with games like CS go and valorent since the frame rates are almost identical to those at 1080P and yes we tested this multiple times on multiple systems this is just Intel's lack of optimizations for these Ultra for popular titles but the rest of the games are a bit of a head scratcher because while Arc frame rates were all over the place at lower resolutions at 1440p it's suddenly a hell of a lot more competitive against the 3060 and 6600 cards I mean technically this could be due to its larger memory size but barely any of these titles max out 8 gigabytes as it is anyways I guess this is just the silver lining for Intel so Intel Arc this is going to be a little bit of a tough one for me because after following this for four years the expectations right now for me and a lot of other people were extremely extremely low and did it hit that low bar I'm gonna say no it actually did better than I was actually expecting when we got the cards here in hand on the flip side it is exactly what a lot of people were predicting including myself and that is it's extremely heavy on the architecture but light on the driver optimizations and what does that mean it means for Intel at least this could be a fine wine that just needs a little bit more time to mature how much time we've got absolutely no idea what Intel is asking you to do here is pay for the promise that Arc will improve with drivers because right now at this very moment performance and feature support is all over the damn place sometimes it's good sometimes it's terrible so overall I'd still pick the 6600 XT if I wanted to maximize bang for bucking gaming and performance per watt meanwhile the RTX 3060 is just so versatile with a ton of features broad support and Creator Focus apps and it still gets good gaming performance but anyways with all that being said I am probably going to be in the same position as a lot of you guys when it comes to Intel art because personally and somewhat professionally I want to give Intel the benefit of the doubt here because what the GPU Market needs is obviously a third competitor something to sort of like reign in AMD and Nvidia and sort of keep them in check does the arc a770 do that right now the answer is sort of but not really there are still a couple of glaring problems the biggest one is the support for those Legacy apis some of today's most popular games you just can't do that so anyways with that being said I want to know what you think about Intel's Arc is this something that you would actually think about buying do you want to pay for that promise of future performance let me know in the comments below I hope you enjoyed this one I am Mike with Hardware Canucks and I will see you in the next one

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Length: 12min 55sec (775 seconds)

Published: Wed Oct 05 2022