We Cannot Compare Diablo 4 To Path Of Exile...Right?

that's correct everyone you read the title and thumbnail properly you cannot compare Diablo 4 to Path of Exile 1 or 2 in any regards not in the slightest never ever at any point during any discussion under any circumstances may you size up this select set of video game titles in fact I say we go a step further never compare Diablo to Poe the franchises are entirely separate stop hurting Blizzard after all the Diablo Series has had a drastically different upbringing compared to the Path of Exile series it has been a rough goab about for blizzard even though both lines are firmly set in the arpg genre there's no way it's fair to give each an equal matchup against the other it's like comparing apples and planets who in their right mind would do that at this point I'd suppose the majority of people stand in one of three camps I totally agree with this try guy Poe has been out forever Diablo I just released H something suspicious is going on here I better keep listening to this try guy to see if he's up to no good they're literally games in the same genre The Path of Exile developers called their game a spiritual successor to Diablo I how can this Tri person say they're incomparable regardless of which Camp you're in and even if you fit into none of these camps I implore you to reflect upon your position and ask yourself do these other points of view have Merit could my opinion be wrong am I the baddy here as your thoughts begin to ponder and search for some firm position to grasp on to let me guide your path and we better place to start than the beginning of this incomparable rivalry ah no wait a bit further back Diablo 1 all the way back in January 1997 a relatively large game development company called blizzard released a short and thrilling hacking SL title called Diablo Blizzard's Northern Development Division deemed blizzard North struck silver here combining multiple novel video game elements previously segmented out in different genres into a single gaming experience Not only was it monetarily successful it was deeply enjoyed by Gamers across the planet and spawned a legacy that would Ripple across the gaming industry truly the first Diablo crafted the loot-based arpg genre as we know it as many people attribute many modern RPGs to DND and modern fantasy stories to tolken and Middle Earth plenty of people credit the developers at blizzard North for developing Diablo and the rest of the action role-playing game genre could one say all loot-based RPGs based on Diablo could be compared to Diablo perhaps perhaps one could Titan Quest forch light fate last Epoch it matters not let's go deeper everyone Diablo I not long after the hype of the original Diablo died down blizzard returned with an absolute Banger of a sequel with Diablo I in June of 2000 while Diablo 1 struck silver Diablo I struck vein after vein of gold players loved the cinematics the story and the atmosphere players loved the level design Loot and item Chase and mightiness their characters could achieve players sought more even with Diablo I's huge success lizard weren't quite ready to move on to the next installment for quite a while instead they pumped out the critically acclaimed Lord Of Destruction expansion instead listening to player demands it released in June of 2001 as players did with the base Diablo I they devoured Lord Of Destruction it iterated on random item monster and semi- random level design gameplay systems players adored it improved craft with the Horadric Cube it added two iconic classes the Assassin and the Druid it added a new very farmable act and act boss really it doubled down and built upon many of the Fantastic arpg systems introduced in Diablo I Lord Of Destruction further cemented the Diablo franchise and the foundation of any good arpg despite its tremendous success blizzard didn't look to to continue updating the game or releasing expansions for it instead deciding to work on yet another sequel that would unfortunately become stuck in development hell not Diablo hell for about a decade while Diablo 3 was stuck in this fiery pit Avid Diablo I players saw the void left behind by Blizzard's refusal to continuing on with Diablo 2 iterations new action role-playing games like Titan Quest and Torch Light release however some incredibly ambitious Diablo I lovers longed for a true sequel to their beloved arpg and began gaming Studios of their own such was the case with the founders of grinding gear games who began work on Path of Exile all the way back in 2007 however it would be quite some time before their game was shown to the public in fact it took about 3 years to do so the bones of Path of Exile weren't meaty but they were deep these developers were taking everything they loved about Diablo I and giving it more depth and their own spin on the genre as a whole they understood Diablo I was genius they loved and played it for thousands and thousands of hours they were aiming to recreate the magic with Path of Exile yes everyone this might be where the comparisons directly began with the actual creators of path of of Exile as they began ramping up their press releases alphas and betas bringing more and more community members into the fold and taking loads of feedback the initial arpg Titan reentered the fold looking to absolutely crush the competition as we'll see in a moment it may have backfired entirely Diablo I finally after oh so many years of Hiatus lizard announced and rapidly released Diablo I long expected sequel to Diablo I in May 2012 while the beta for Diablo II the entire First Act of the game was quite well received the game's launch was disastrous between the infamous error 37 that didn't allow players to log in the real cash Auction House the lack of Seasons or ladders and the Dreadful endgame Loop most players weren't satisfied with Diablo I it definitely wasn't the successor to Diablo I a huge chunk of the player base was searching for of the most vocal were some large community figures such as karian who instead of continuing to slog through Diablo I Blizzard's latest arpg ventured to New Frontiers and gave path of Exiles alphas and betas a try he loved them alongside Legions of players who traveled from Diablo I The Path of Exile blowing the small independent Studio away with tremendous support mind you this was probably the best Diablo II player and streamer at the time leaving the game to play a tiny title being built by a startup in New Zealand again here's the next lock of comparison some people may think D4 bad Poe good is a new meme it's not this is where it began with D3 bad Poe good people spammed it in chat in videos on streams even in real life both games were args both were supposed to be successors to Diablo I both were based around Loot and killing monsters both featured building difficulty campaigns that led to an endgame Loop lots of similarities okay but could Diablo really be compared to Path of Exile with Diablo I launched let's dig a bit deeper into into its totally not similar competitor Path of Exile Path of Exile concurrently being developed alongside Diablo I Path of Exile was gaining more and more popularity while it didn't release officially until October 2013 it had a super populace Alpha closed beta and open Beta period from January 2010 to October 2013 while Diablo II launched and stumbled a bit Poe was gaining momentum during its initial pre-release updates and these weren't press betas similar to what we've seen for other big titles of the present like Diablo I these were living breathing betas with lots of problems lots of new content and lots of developer interaction which is to be expected Right Path of Exile was an in development game made by a tiny studio with a fraction of the resources compared to giants like blizzard however even just the bones of a game en raptured new players who realized this was the real sequel to Diablo I they were searching for with a bunch of flare attached the huge passive skill tree the gem system the dark and gritty campaign and setting the items oh and the items it helped that the frontman of grinding gear games Chris Wilson was a massive passionate fan of Diablo II who wasn't afraid to show it he constantly compared Path of Exile to Diablo II and other args of the time like Titan Quest he was also a huge proponent of interacting with the community the Pue team constantly posted YouTube videos featuring Chris Wilson narrating new content design manifestos and even cool new builds to Showcase to the public the relationship between GGG and the community was was wonderful much of their inspiration came from the aforementioned args you could say they'd never think comparing the games was odd as they were all based around the same core concept plus it didn't matter that Diablo I was made a decade before or the fact that the huge Diablo II the most financially successful PC game of all time at the time had just released with an enormous batch of development resources allocated to it none of that mattered in the end as truly they were games made from the same distant ancestral Origins eventually Path of Exile released in October 2013 and began its intense development live service cycle the meme of D3 bad Poe good continued to build up as each Poe League or season continued to improve more and more upon the base game while Diablo II took multiple years to launch its first season and it had some new new cosmetics and item rewards meanwhile every Path of Exile League introduced a fundamentally game-changing mechanic brand new quality of life features many more items new skills reworks to the passive tree and owe so much more plus they were constant always growing in size and free Path of Exile was and is a game reported by optional cosmetic microtransactions not paid game boxes or locked paid content yes Diablo I player numbers dwarfed Path of Exile but that didn't stop the comparisons of the player base then as the players weren't focused on those vanity metrics they were focused on the game play and development it's always been a mystery as to why Diablo I had only one major content release its first and only expansion Reaper of Souls while Path of Exile released new content every 3 months for years in May 2018 for the first time grinding gear games experienced a major infusion of capital in 10 cent the Chinese publisher of Path of Exile acquired a majority stake in the company as posed by the managing director Chris Wilson this left GGG as an independent company would not mean any changes or dictations to the game by 10cent or any pay to win features in the game's International servers in fact it would mean GGG could hire even more Developers for its most ambitious project yet called 4.0.0 even to this day their promises have been kept and the game's monetization and content Direction has not changed fortunately as path of exile's player base and amount of content skyrocketed after this cash influx blizzard had something cooking related to Diablo that would shock absolutely everyone involved in the arpg space Diablo Immortal the next big Diablo announcement was not a fourth edition to the PC and console series it was a mobile game Diablo Immortals announcement absolutely lit the entire Diablo franchise on fire when it was announced at BlizzCon 2018 the crowd couldn't believe it thankfully it spawned a variety of fresh memes too that are still used to this day blizzard made a huge mistake here that we don't need the help of retrospect to understand most of the blizzard and especially the Diablo player base were PC Gamers back then the announcement of a mobile game without the confirmation Diablo II would get more support or another sequel was truly being worked on heavily was unbelievable even more flabbergasting was their aloof attitude about it they really didn't seem to understand why people were upset keep this announcement in mind as we continue our story Diablo 4 as Path of Exile was growing to be bigger than ever before blizzard clearly saw an opportunity to break back on to the arpg stage they announced Diablo I was in development with a cinematic trailer that gave chills to everyone who watched it at BlizzCon 2019 alongside that they had some highly curated gameplay footage 2 with promises Diablo I was going to be a return to Diablo's Roots especially taking lessons learned from Diablo I and the great meat of Diablo I in terms of style item design level design character design really everything they were taking Diablo I and bringing it to the modern era with an MMO twist this was going to be an open world game of course when they announced all this in November 2019 they said they were a ways out and they were but thankfully for them they got in front of path of exile's next big announcement and release Right Path of Exile 2 not long after Diablo 4's announcement grinding gear games upstaged blizzard and let loose the news that Path of Exile 2 was on its way to just 3 weeks later unable to secure the massive funds that blizzard could they didn't have an amazing cinematic trailer they just had incredible gameplay to show in a trailer and not during Path of Exile 2's announcement at Exile con 2019 in November 2019 the actual lead developers hopped on stage and played poe2 live in front of an audience additionally they noted two other upcoming releases the next huge Path of Exile expansion conquerors of the atlas and then Path of Exile mobile a mobile non-pay to- win version of Poe of course this immediately sparked comparisons to Blizzard's announcement of the Diablo Immortal Chris Wilson even referenced it on stage and their promotional video for Pue mobile featured a Mobile Fall Guy 100% referencing Wyatt Chang of Diablo Immortal infamy the Triple G developers didn't shy away from comparisons between their product and their Rivals and Poe players constantly compare the two interestingly the people who don't like to compare Path of Exile and Diablo are blizzard themselves who very rarely acknowledge pe's existence and Diablo players who cannot fathom comparing their beloved series to the tiny Whittle Path of Exile why what's really the harm especially now Diablo 4 release poe1 now and poe2 upcoming ah yes the present when all the Diablo 4 versus Path of Exile comparisons are igniting fires everywhere Diablo I released long before Path of Exile 2 as pu2 doesn't even have a release date yet however even the live Diablo I is struggling to please its players and as I predicted is pushing more and more people to Path of Exile one due to its many problems Path of Exile 1 is still trucking along with content updates every 3 to 4 months while Path of Exile 2 has now been split out as its own separate game and is quite far out from release while it looks absolutely phenomenal and an amazing addition to the pee series even even looking better in graphic animation and art Direction Fidelity than Diablo I will focus on the currently released titles Path of Exile 1 is still an incredibly deep and complicated game but even people who thought it would be far too intimidating after playing Diablo I are becoming massive fans of it for example Darth microtransaction a person who built his current huge channel on Diablo I is now playing Poe over D4 and even other games he thought he'd love playing he has been hooked and Compares D4 to Poe plenty asmin gold or Zach raar has been a longtime Path of Exile supporter and player starting all the way back in the betas he constantly Compares Diablo 4 in Path of Exile he's a big fan of Poe and enjoys saying the4 bad occasionally quin69 cannnot stop saying D4 bad but I wouldn't blame him after the absolutely abysmal bugs he has encountered during his playtime in Blizzard's latest title other smaller creators like hog discovered Poe for the first time after being disappointed by D4 and are refreshed by the entire game and its developers all of these people are just the tip of the iceberg Diablo 4 is doing Poe a huge service it's the best ADP we has ever had bringing tons and tons of new play to the series for the first time or convincing them to try it again after bouncing off years ago why because they are similar games that initially claim to cater to a similar audience that's why they can be compared even if Diablo I has some aspects that really set it apart and Pue is a far more complex game Diablo 4 beats out Path of Exile in animation and graphical quality cinematics too I'd also say it's Cosmetic System and console cross PC play beats Path of Exile as well that's it in every other aspect Path of Exile wins out clearly I've laid out a few of these in previous D4 versus Pue videos so I won't do it here you can go watch those in future releases if you'd like however due to this huge gap Defenders of Diablo I will say you cannot compare Diablo I to Path of Exile because Path of Exile has existed for so many years Diablo 4 just released to that I say Diablo 4 has a very long Legacy we just took a look at it the series began in the Year 1997 and has seen four separate titles released before Diablo I with thousands and thousands of developers working on it alongside ludicrous sums of cash to support it I've never said D4 should have the same amount of content as Poe but it should match it in terms of quality given the immense resources available and storied history D4 good supporters also might say D4 has way more players than Poe it also made so much money to that I'd respond so what I'm not comparing population metrics or finances I'd expect a company who can put up Billboards in New York City to advertise their game a company that could make deals with huge fast food companies or a company that could hire Megan Fox to read ads to Garner a far larger player base and therefore have more players and make more money GGG cannot do that you win there I guess but does the financial success and marketing of a game really matter or does its quality I'd say the latter matters far more finally some D4 supporters also say you cannot compare D4 to Poe they are different games to that I give you this video Heroes of sanctuary of course they are not the same game we all know that however they are both inspired by the same material and in many ways cater to the same audience the grinding gear games developers have directly stated they wanted their game to be a spiritual successor to Diablo I blizzard outright claimed that they wanted to return to a Diablo 2es game with MMO elements in Diablo I how can you say these titles are incomparable it's okay to compare games there's no need to be furious about it or become super defensive honestly the only people spouting this nonsense funnily enough are the people defending blizzard and Diablo I and blizzard themselves the former by directly outlining the three arguments above and the latter by basically ignoring the existence of any other competitive games I prefer a different approach the approach taken by some of the big figures I've named like asmin gold and Chris Wilson acknowledge the competition analyze what they do better than you Ponder how you can improve and of course the last step improve don't complain don't say how you cannot compare the two acknowledge analyze Ponder improve that's how we get better games everyone friendly competition I and many others sought for Diablo I to be an amazing game a banger we were filled with hope after the jaw-dropping by three they com trailer in 2019 and receptive to Blizzard's goal of crafting a modernized Diablo I I and many others were disappointed which is unfortunate sure I've talked about just how many people are coming to my preferred arpg Path of Exile because of Diablo 4 but if it was a good or great game more would come it would be beneficial for the entire genre but games as a whole if blizzard succeeded with Diablo I I don't define success in terms of population size hours played or sales made as a player I Define it in the fun I have in the game in Diablo I I don't have fun in Path of Exile I have for years honestly that's the only comparison I needed to make to finally understand this one simple fact D4 bad Poe good thanks for watching leave a comment below with your opinion can we fairly compare Diablo to Path of Exile why or why not I'd love to hear your thoughts let me give a huge shout out to every Exile who supports this channel you can help the channel grow by giving this video a like bare form slamming the Subscribe button and turning on the Bell there's a ton more pey content and Beyond on its [Music] way

Channel: Talkative Tri

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Keywords: Path of Exile, PoE, poe, Path of Exile 2, PoE 2, poe2, GGG, Grinding Gear Games, ARPG, arpg, action roleplaying games, diablo 4, diablo, d4, d3, diablo 2, diablo 1, d1, diablo immortal, blizzard

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Length: 26min 55sec (1615 seconds)

Published: Fri Sep 08 2023