>> LET'S GO TO OUR TOP STORY THIS MORNING. THE WALL STREET JOURNAL IS OUT WITH A NEW PIECE
ENTITLED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. BIDEN SHOWS SIGNS OF SLIPPING.
THE JOURNAL SAYS IT SPOKE WITH BOTH REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
WHO EITHER PARTICIPATED IN MEETINGS WITH BIDEN OR WERE
BRIEFED ON THEM CONTEMPORANEOUSLY, BUT
ESSENTIALLY ONLY ON THE RECORD REPUBLICAN CRITICS IN THE
ARTICLE. I'M THE ONE IS FORMER SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY. THE JOURNAL WRITES, QUOTE, LAST
YEAR WHEN BIDEN WAS NEGOTIATING WITH HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO LIFT
THE DEBT CEILING, HIS DEMEANOR AND COMMAND OF THE DETAILS
SEEMED TO SHIFT FROM ONE DAY. THE NEXT ACCORDING TO THEN
HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN MCCARTHY. >> THEY ALSO JOHNSON PEOPLE
AROUND MIKE JOHNSON AND IT MET THAT THIS IS BASICALLY HOUSE
REPUBLICANS WHACKING. WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST ASKED MARJORIE
TAYLOR GREENE? YEAH, THEY CAME. LAUREN BOEBERT A IT'S IT'S
REALLY SHOCKING, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SEE WHAT KEVIN
MCCARTHY HAS SAID REPEATEDLY PUBLICLY AND BEHIND THE SCENES
ABOUT BIDEN ON THOSE SHAME. >> DAYS WHEN THEY WERE
NEGOTIATING, THE STRONG FEELINGS YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT
THIS ARTICLE COMES ALSO BECAUSE THE CONTEXT OF THIS RACE AND
THESE 2 CANDIDATES, IT'S INTERESTING. THAT'S ALL I'LL
SAY. AND YOU HAVE THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF WHAT MCCARTHY SAID
ABOUT BIDEN'S EFFECTIVENESS IN THE PAST FROM POLITICO LAST
YEAR, QUOTE, MCCARTHY MOCKED BIDEN'S AGE AND MENTAL ACUITY
IN PUBLIC IN PUBLIC LIFE LIKE HE DID IN THIS ARTICLE WHILE
PRIVATELY TELLING ALLIES THAT HE FOUND THE PRESIDENT SHARP
AND SUBSTANTIVE IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS, A CONTRADICTION
THAT LEFT A DEEP IMPRESSION ON THE WHITE HOUSE. THIS FROM THE
NEW YORK TIMES PRIVATELY, MISTER MCCARTHY HAS TOLD ALLIES
THAT HE HAS FOUND MISTER BIDEN TO BE MENTALLY SHARP AND
MEETINGS. AND THIS FROM THE HILL, VERY PROFESSIONAL, VERY
SMART, VERY TOP. AT THE SAME TIME, MCCARTHY TOLD REPORTERS
AT THE CAPITOL >> OF HIS TALKS WITH FIAT COULD
GO ON AND ON WITH THINGS THAT KEVIN MCCARTHY AND OTHERS HAVE
SAID ABOUT NEGOTIATING WITH JOE BIDEN. I CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT
WHAT THE FRENCH DELEGATION SAD WHEN THEY WERE NEGOTIATING WITH
WITH HOW AND AND WHAT THEY TOLD ME IN. I HAVE FRIENDS THAT I
HAVE IN THAT FRENCH DELEGATION WERE PART OF THOSE
NEGOTIATIONS. HE SAID THAT MCCRAW IT CAME OUT LIKE, WOW,
OK, IT'S A LOT TOUGHER THAN WE EXPECTED. AND AND ACTUALLY, I
THINK THE KRON SORT OF GOT HIS BACK UP BECAUSE BIDEN WAS
PRESSING SO HARD CAN TELL YOU THE SAME THING ABOUT MIDDLE
EASTERN LEADERS. AND I TALK TO NOBODY SAYING HE'S NOT COACHING
THAT. SOME PEOPLE ARE SUGGESTING THAT HE HE, YOU
KNOW, A BIT TOO TOUGH AND NEGOTIATIONS. THE UNITED STATES
THURS THEIR WEIGHT AROUND A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH. BUT WHAT'S WHAT EFFECT SO
SHOCKING ABOUT THIS ARTICLE IS THEY GO TO KEVIN MCCARTHY IS
THEIR MAIN SOURCE AND OTHER HOUSE REPUBLICANS, THE SAME
HOUSE REPUBLICANS, MIKE JOHNSON, JUST THEY'RE LYING
THROUGH HIS TEETH REPEATEDLY. MIKE JOHNSON, WHO GOT THE POWER
BASED ON THE BIG LIE AND THEY'RE USING PEOPLE AROUND
JOHNSON AND KEVIN MCCARTHY TO DO THIS. THIS TROP HIT PACE AND
JOE BIDEN. BUT AGAIN, HERE'S THE QUOTE. KEVIN MCCARTHY
MOCKED BIDEN'S AGE AND MENTAL ACUITY IN PUBLIC. THIS IS FROM
FROM POLITICO LAST YEAR WHILE PRIVATELY TELLING ALLIES
THAT IN PRIVATE HE FOUND THE PRESIDENT TO BE SHARK AND SUBSTANTIVE. I I'M TALKING
ABOUT MY MY MEETINGS WITH THE PRESIDENT OVER THE PAST YEAR,
WILLIE AND AND TALK TO DAD MIKE AND MAKE ABOUT AND I SAID IN
REAL TIME THE GUY THE GUY I AND SEE. BUT THOSE GUYS ARE THERE
SPENT TIME WITH BOTH OF THOSE GUYS PRIVATELY SPENT TIME WITH
BIDEN AND TRUMP PRIVATELY HAVE SPENT TIME WITH EVERY HOUSE
SPEAKER OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS. AND JOE BIDEN, I JUST IT'S JUST NOT CLOSE. IF YOU
WANT TO TALK ABOUT INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, IF YOU
WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO GET BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION, JOE
BIDEN IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF ALL OF THEM. AND THE FACT THAT THE WALL
STREET JOURNAL NEW THESE QUOTES WERE OUT THERE THAT ARE SOME
NOT LOOKING AT THE REPORTER PEOPLE. HE'S BLAMED THE
REPORTER THERE, A LINE OF EDITORS BEHIND EVERY STORY
THAT'S NOT EDITOR'S. SAW THAT KEVIN MCCARTHY HAD A HABIT. THAT'S MUCH SAYING ONE THING IN
PUBLIC LYING IN PUBLIC AND THEN PRIVATE. WE TELLING HIS AIDES
JUST THE OPPOSITE. THAT FINE WAS SHARP THAT HE WAS
COACHING, THAT HE WAS SUBSTANTIVE. AND IN THE SAME
MEETING THAT KEVIN MCCARTHY IS NOW TELLING THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL BIDEN WAS OUT OF IT. HE WENT OUT AND HE TOLD
REPORTERS AFTER THE MEETING THAT THE MEETING WAS BUT THE
BEST. YET WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. AND I'M GOING TO BE
TALKING TO JOE BIDEN EVERY DAY, VERY PROFESSIONAL. VERY SMART.
VERY TOUGH. I JUST I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I REALLY
DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY HERE. >> WELL, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE
FACT THAT JOE BIDEN IS 81 YEARS OLD. DONALD TRUMP, BY THE WAY,
WILL BE 78 NEXT WEEK. SO HE'S NOT MUCH YOUNGER. SO YES, DOES
HE MOVE A LITTLE SLOWER AND SPEAK A LITTLE SOFTER THAN HE
DID 15 YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT? FORMER SPEAKER
MCCARTHY SAYS YES, SURE DOES. YEAH. I THINK MOST 81 YEAR-OLD
STEWART, MOST PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE 15
YEARS AGO. THIS DOES HAS THE HAVE THE FEELING OF TRUMP
ACOLYTES LAUNDERING, THEIR ATTACKS TO A REPUTABLE
CHRISTIE. JUST NEW NEWS ORGANIZATION IN THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL. ALSO THE POINT ABOUT NOTES AS RICHARD HAASS WOULD
TELL YOU, PRESIDENTS USE NOTES IN MEETINGS. THAT'S NOT
UNUSUAL. THEY MIGHT HAVE A SHEET THEM OUT OF A CARD IN
FRONT OF THEM WITH SOME POINTS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE. I WOULD
ALSO POINT OUT DONALD TRUMP HAS A PERSON WHO FOLLOWS HIM WITH A
PRINTER TO PRINT THINGS OUT FOR HIM SO WE CAN HAVE HARD COPIES
SO HE CAN READ HIS NOTES AND FACTS AND LIES OFTEN THAT HE
RATTLES OFF. AND THEN THE OTHER POINT TO MAKE IS WILL THE WALL
STREET JOURNAL HAVE A PIECE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
MENTAL ACUITY? ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WATCH THE 90 MINUTES OF
THAT FOX NEWS INTERVIEW OVER THE WEEKEND. AND YOU CAN GO
THROUGH LAST DO AN ENTIRE SERIES OF ARTICLES ON SOMEONE
WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER. MIKE BARNICLE, YOU'RE
VERY PLUGGED INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. WHAT'S THE EARLY
REACTION TO THIS PIECE? >> SHE CAN. HE JUST CAN'T
ACTION IS ACTUALLY. >> BUT YEAH, I AM SORT OF
ACTUALLY EMBARRASSED FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WITH THIS
PIECE AND THERE'S ONE AT LEAST TO ME AND OTHERS. RICHARD,
ANYONE WHO'S SPENT ANY TIME AT ALL, JOE MICAH, ANYBODY WHO YOU
ANYBODY WHO'S SPENT ANY TIME AT ALL WITH JOE BIDEN KNOWS ONE
THING ABOUT JOE BIDEN ABOVE ALL ELSE. HE'S A TALKER. HE'S A TALKER. SO HERE'S HERE'S
THAT HELD IN THIS PIECE WITH UKRAINE RUNNING OUT OF
MUNITIONS. THE WHITE HOUSE CALL TO GET THE TOP LAWMAKERS TO
DISCUSS WHAT WE TAKE TO GET CONGRESSIONAL FUNDING. ALONG
WITH THE SCOPE OF BORDER SECURITY CHANGES DEMANDED BY
REPUBLICANS. THE PRESIDENT MOVE SO SLOWLY AROUND THE CABINET
ROOM TO GREET THE NEARLY 2 DOZEN CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS
THAT IT TOOK ABOUT 10 MINUTES FOR THE MEETING TO BEGIN.
SOME PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED RECALLS 2 DOZEN PEOPLE AROUND A TABLE
AND IT TOOK HIM 10 MINUTES TO ERODE. I'M AMAZED AT THE TAKE
THEM IN OUR EVERYONE WHO NEEDS. HE HAS 10 MINUTES TO TALK TO
THEM ABOUT EVERYONE. SO THIS WAS A CLASSIC CLASSIC. HE PEAS
PROBABLY ORDERED UP BY THE 93 YEAR-OLD 5TH TIME MARRIED
RUPERT MURDOCH OVER THE WEEKEND. PROBABLY, YOU KNOW.
BUT I MEAN, THIS THIS PIECE IS SO CHILL DID SO OFF THE OFF THE
MARK IS THE 81 YEARS OLD. YES, THE A
BIT SLOWER IN TERMS OF HIS REACTIONS TO SOME THINGS.
PROBABLY THAT I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T KNOW. I DO KNOW,
RICHARD AND AND YOU'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE, I'M SURE WHO HAVE
BEEN WITH HIM AND NATIONAL SECURITY MEETINGS. I'VE BEEN
WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WITH THEM. AND THAT'S JUST SITUATION
ROOM. MURRAY LITERALLY GOES AROUND THE GLOBE ON THE CHART
IN THE SITUATION. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THERE BUT
ELECTRONICALLY AND POINTS OUT THE WEAKNESSES IN THE STRENGTHS
OF UNITED STATES RELATIONSHIPS WITH EACH AND EVERY COUNTRY
THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WITH NO NOTES WITH NO NOTES. HE IS AN
81 YEAR-OLD PRESIDENT UNITED STATES WHO GETS UP EVERY DAY IS
GOING TO DEAL WITH BIBI NETANYAHU IN THE MORNING
UKRAINE. ABOUT 10 MINUTES LATER HIS SON IS ON TRIAL. HIS SON IS
AN ADDICT. IT'S ALL THE TIME. THIS PIECE IS OUTRAGEOUS.
YEAH, MIKE, IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED. IT'S JUST NOT YOU
KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE HE QUOTE, WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK TO
ANYBODY, RICHARD, BUT THE PERSON I QUOTE, KEVIN MCCARTHY
FEEL WAS JUST SHORT AGAIN. KEVIN MCCARTHY IS ONE ACTUALLY A SORT OF A PR
TOUR RIGHT NOW. NOW THE CLEANUP ACT AND POLITICOS WRITTEN A
STORY ABOUT THIS, THE FACT THAT HE LIKES AND HE BOUNCES BACK AND FORTH.
HE'S TRYING TO GO ON AND BASICALLY PR TOUR. BUT WE DON'T
HAVE TO ASK WORLD LEADERS, BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP
IN. LET'S JUST TALK TO THE GUY THAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THIS
STORY AND THEN QUOTED MCCARTHY MARKED BIDEN'S AGE AND
MENTAL ACUITY PUBLIC WHILE PRIVATELY TELLING ALLIES IN
PRIVATE HE FOUND THE PRESIDENT TO BE SHARP AND SUBSTANCE THAT
HE CALLED HIM VERY PROFESSIONAL. VERY SMART, VERY
TOUGH. AND THIS SAME MEETING AGAIN THAT THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL IS BASING THIS STORY ON KEVIN MCCARTHY SLICE KEVIN MCCARTHY'S LICE. IT'S THE PRESS. THERE IS A
MOUNTAIN OF OF QUOTES FROM KEVIN MCCARTHY AND PEOPLE
AROUND KEVIN MCCARTHY SAYING THAT BIDEN IS SHARP. IT IS MENTALLY SHARP PRIVATELY. I THINK, YEAH, I
MEAN TO GO AND TALK ABOUT WHAT I TALKED ABOUT TALKING TO WORLD LEADERS
TALKING ABOUT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST NOT COMPLICATED.
NOW, IT'S NOT WENT TO A GUY WHO IS ADMITTED THAT HE LIES IN
PUBLIC AND THAT PRIVATELY BIDEN IS VERY SHARP. JOE. 2 REPUBLICAN SPEAKERS HAVE
BEEN UP TO FOR RECALL. IN THE RECENT PAST, KEVIN MCCARTHY AND
MIKE JOHNSON. DEMOCRATS SAVED MIKE JOHNSON WITH THEIR VOTES.
THEY REFUSED TO SAVE KEVIN MCCARTHY WHEN HE WAS UP AND
HE'S OUT. WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS UNIVERSAL EVEN FROM REPUBLICANS
AND DEMOCRATS. KEVIN MCCARTHY IS A LIAR. THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T
GET THE SUPPORT. >> IT'S ALSO REALLY ON THE
STORY COMES OUT NOW. THINK ABOUT THE LAST WEEK JOE BIDEN
HAS COME FORWARD WITH 3 MAJOR NEW POLICIES. SHE'S FIRE
INITIATIVE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE NEW WEAPONS TARGETING
POLICY FOR UKRAINE AND AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT POLICY ON
THE BORDER. 3 ENORMOUS ISSUES. 3 NEW POLICIES THIS YEAR.
YOU MAY LIKE THE POLICIES YOU MAY NOT, BUT THIS IS CLEARLY A
PRESIDENT WHO IS DRIVING AN AGENDA. >> SOME OF THE POLICE OFFICERS
WHO DEFENDED THAT BUILDING BEHIND ALLEY ON JANUARY 6 ARE
CONTINUING THEIR FIGHT TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY. HARRY DUNN
AQUILINO GONELL AND DANIEL HODGES HAVE BEEN FANNING OUT ACROSS SWING STATES
RECENTLY TO MAKE THE CASE FOR RE ELECTING PRESIDENT BIDEN IN
NOVEMBER AND FOR STOPPING DONALD TRUMP TODAY. COMING OFF
AN UNSUCCESSFUL BID FOR CONGRESS WITH SAW HIM BRING IN
MORE THAN 5 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CAMPAIGN. DUNN IS LAUNCHING
A NEW POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE CALLED DUNN'S
DEMOCRACY DEFENDERS. >> I WAS ALWAYS READY FOR GAME
DAY. 2 TEAMS LINED UP ITS U.S.. YOU LEAVE IT ALL ON THE FIELD. AND ON JANUARY 6, THE GOOD GUYS
WON MY FELLOW OFFICERS A NIGHT FOR SUPPRESSION IS AS A TEAM. WE HAD EACH OTHER'S BACK AND WE DIDN'T DO IT FOR ONE
PERSON. ONE PRESIDENT DID FOR OUR COUNTRY TO MAKE SURE
EVERYONE'S VOTE COUNTED. THAT'S WHAT DEMOCRACY IS THAT,
YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON'S VOICE IS GREATER THAN ANOTHER. WHEN I
RAN FOR CONGRESS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF REGULAR PEOPLE
STOOD WITH ME AND WE BROKE RECORDS IN FUNDRAISING. BUT OUR
SYSTEM STILL ALLOWS THE WEALTHIEST AMERICAN AND THEY'RE
CORRUPT SUPER PACS SUPPORTING INSURRECTIONS AND DROWNED OUT.
SO OUR TEAM HAS GOT TO CHANGE
THAT. WE NEED TO SUPPORT CANDIDATES COMMITTED TO GETTING
MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AND DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRACY FROM
DONALD TRUMP AND MAGA EXTREMIST. NOBODY SAID IT WOULD BE BUT FOR
OUR COUNTRY FOR OUR TEAM, WE CAN'T STOP NOW. >> AND FORMER U.S. CAPITOL
POLICE OFFICER HARRY DUNN JOINS US NOW. HE'S THE AUTHOR OF THE
RECENT BOOK STANDING MY GROUND. OFFICER DUNNE. THANKS FOR BEING
WITH US AGAIN THIS MORNING. SO YOU RAN FOR CONGRESS IN THE
STATE OF MARYLAND, FELT A LITTLE BIT SHORT THERE, BUT DID
HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THAT CAMPAIGN TO TELL US MORE
ABOUT WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO WITH IT IN THIS INITIATIVE. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE ON WITH YOU. YEAH, WE DID FALL SHORT,
BUT THE REASON WHY IRAN WITH THE DO EVERYTHING I CAN DO TO
CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY. THAT'S WHAT IT'S
LIKE TO PRESERVE OUR CONSTITUTION. IT'S A FIGHT TO
STOP. MATT EXTREME THIS AND AT THE VERY TOP OF THE TICKET ON
DONALD TRUMP. AND YEAH, WE DID RAISE THEM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND WITH THAT TOLD US WHAT THAT
TOLD ME THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON THAT
MESSAGE OF OUR DEMOCRACY ON THE THREAT OF LOSING IT, THE THREAT
OF THIS BEING OUR POTENTIAL LESS FREE AND FAIR ELECTION,
IT'S RESONATES WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN WEREN'T A LOT OF
PEOPLE AND IT'S AT THE TOP OF PEOPLE'S MINDS. SO WHAT WE'RE
GOING TO DO, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE
THAT MOMENTUM TO CONTINUE TO GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY UP AND DOWN
THE BALLOT IN THE LEAD DEMOCRATS AND STOP MAGA
REPUBLICANS AND ALSO THE B****, THE FIGHT TO CONTINUE TO GET
BIG CORPORATE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AND SUPPORT THOSE
CANDIDATES THAT REALLY WANT TO DO THAT. >> SO, HARRY, WHEN YOU'RE OUT
THERE, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AND
MEETING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE,
THAT ASPECT THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE THREAT TO
DEMOCRACY. WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE THREAT TO
DEMOCRACY, HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE YOU
SPOKE TO FIGHT? IT WAS LIKE REAL THAT IT COULD HAPPEN AS
OPPOSED TO GET THAT. >> NO WORRIES A LOT OF PEOPLE
THAT WERE IN A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF
ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO FIND ROE V WADE
AND COMMON SENSE GUN THAT CAN LOWER INFLATION, ALL THE LITTLE
THINGS REALLY. AND THE IMPORTANT AS THEY ARE, IF WE
HAVE A DICTATOR AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE DICTATOR OVER
DEMOCRACY WAS WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THE PURPOSE? THE THOSE ISSUES
REALLY DON'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE THE DICTATOR GETS WHAT
HE WANTS. SO EVERYBODY IS DEFINITELY WORK. EVEN PEOPLE
THAT VOTED AGAINST ME OFF OF ONE OF MY OPPONENTS TELL ME
THAT THEY WERE DEFINITELY WORRIED ABOUT OUR DEMOCRACY.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY FRONT AND CENTER WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND
BEING OUT HERE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. SO PRESIDENT BIDEN IN
PENNSYLVANIA RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE ARE
DEFINITELY WORRIED ABOUT, IT RESONATES WITH PEOPLE.
AND I HAVE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HE'S TALKING ABOUT RETRIBUTION
AND IMPRISONING. HE'S A POLITICAL OPPONENTS AND PEOPLE
ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT. >> WELL, SO WE KEEP HEARING
ABOUT A KIND OF SENSE ABOUT NIGER, NOT JUST FROM PRESIDENT
TRUMP, BUT EVEN AROUND THE EVENTS OF JANUARY 6. WHEN
YOU'RE OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, SPEAKING TO VOTERS IN
PENNSYLVANIA, HOW MUCH TO THE OTHER THINKING
ABOUT IT? HOW MUCH DO THEY REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED THAT
DAY? HOW CENTRAL IS IT IN THE THANK YOU'S THEY PLAN TO GO TO
THE ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER? >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE
BEEN HEARING A LOT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY DEMOCRATS NEED TO
MOVE ON FROM JANUARY 6 WITH DONALD TRUMP TALKS ABOUT IT
EVERY DAY THAT HE HOLDS AROUND HERE IS FRONT AND CENTER ABOUT
PARDONING THE RIDERS THAT ATTACK THE POLICE OFFICERS ON
JANUARY 6. SO DONALD TRUMP IS MAKING IT A CAMPAIGN ISSUE.
ALSO, LET'S BE COMPLETELY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. BUT PEOPLE WANT TO
KNOW THE TRUE THEN AND THERE ARE VOTERS OUT THERE THAT NO
MATTER WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAYS, NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES WILL NOT
STRING FROM HIM NO MATTER WHAT. THAT'S WHY. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT
WE ARE TRYING TO REACH THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS, THE
REPUBLICANS WHO WE DON'T HAVE A POLITICAL HAY, THAT THE THE THE
PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THAT DEMOCRACY IS REALLY ON THE
BALLOT, PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN THAT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE
PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT HERE NOW. AND, YOU KNOW, I
I'M HOPING TO AMPLIFY THAT THOUGHT DEMOCRACY DEFENDERS
THAT DOT COM. >> FORMER U.S. CAPITOL POLICE
OFFICER HARRY DUNN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS
MORNING. >> SO THE GROUP REPUBLICAN
VOTERS AGAINST TRUMP IS LAUNCHING A NEW BILLBOARD AD
CAMPAIGN LOOKING TO PERSUADE MODERATE REPUBLICANS AND
REPUBLICAN LEANING VOTERS IN 4 SWING STATES. THE BILLBOARDS
FEATURE FORMER TRUMP VOTERS WHO NOW SAY THEY WON'T VOTE FOR HIM
IN THE WAKE OF THIS CONVICTION LAST WEEK AND HIS NEW YORK CITY
CRIMINAL TRIAL. LET'S BRING IN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
REPUBLICAN VOTERS AGAINST TRUMP, SARAH LONGWELL. SHE'S
ALSO A PUBLISHER AT THE BULWARK AND AND HOST OF THE FOCUS GROUP
PODCAST. SARAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TO TELL US
MORE ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN AND WHAT YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT FROM
REPUBLICAN VOTERS. WELL, LOOK, THE QUESTION AFTER
THE CONVICTION, THE POLITICAL QUESTION. >> ISRAEL VOTERS CARE AND FROM
OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE TO HELP MAKE THEM CARE. RIGHT?
DID THE REPUBLICANS ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND THEY ARE
BUILDING THEIR OWN NARRATIVE BUILDING THEIR OWN ECHO
CHAMBER. THEY ARE ALL SINGING FROM THE SAME SONG SHEET THAT
THIS WAS RIGGED, THAT WE HAVE A 2 TIERED JUSTICE SYSTEM.
BUT WE HAVE TO GO ON OFFENSE RIGHT NOW AND MAKE SURE THAT
VOTERS UNDERSTAND HOW UNIQUE HOW HISTORICALLY
UNIQUE IN A IN A IN A DESPERATELY DARK WAY IT IS TO
HAVE A CONVICTED FELON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. AND SO OUR
PROGRAM, REPUBLICAN VOTERS AGAINST TRUMP, IT HINGES ON A KEY SIRI AROUND
PERMISSION STRUCTURES, WHICH IS YOU NEED CREDIBLE MESSENGERS TO
SPEAK TO THESE SWING VOTERS. AND SO WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP IN THE PAST. MANY OF THEM VOTED
FOR HIM TWICE WHO ARE EXPLAINING. THERE'S TESTIMONY
IS ALL OVER OUR WEB SITE EXPLAINING WHY THEY WON'T VOTE
FOR TRUMP AGAIN. BUT AFTER THE CONVICTION, WE WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THAT IT'S STUCK WITH PEOPLE. I MEAN, WE HAVE WATCHED
DONALD TRUMP EXTRAORDINARY THINGS HAVE HAPPENED LIKE HIS
OWN VICE PRESIDENT NOT ENDORSING HIM. AND YET HE KIND
OF JUST ROLLS OFF VOTERS MINDS. YOU KNOW, THIS TRUMP HAS BEEN
AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAVE 2 FUNCTIONAL INCUMBENTS AND
THAT CREATES A DYNAMIC WHERE VOTERS JUST AREN'T AS TUNED IN
IN WAYS THAT THEY MIGHT HAPPEN TO. YOU HAVE TO GO ON OFFENSE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE STRONG AFFIRMATIVE MESSAGING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THINGS STICK IN THE MIND OF VOTERS. YOU CAN'T JUST
COUNT ON THE IDEA THAT VOTERS ARE GOING TO HEAR CONVICTION
AND WALK AWAY. YOU HAVE TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS SO
EXTRAORDINARY WHY WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG AND WHY HE'S TOO
DANGEROUS TO BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN. >> SO, SARAH, TO THAT POINT
ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF MAKING THINGS STICK TO TRUMP, WE ALSO
LIVE IN A WORLD WHAT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION SPAN IS A
FEW FLEETING MOMENTS THAT WE'LL JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THERE'S A CONVICTION SIGNATURE HAPPENED
AT THE END OF MAY. HERE ARE THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF JUNE. WE'RE
STILL 5 MONTHS TO THE ELECTION. SO HOW DO YOU GET TO RESONATE TO
STAY IN THE FOREFRONT OF VOTERS MINDS NOT JUST NOW, BUT AS THE
HEAD AND THE BALLOT BOX? >> LOOK, THIS IS ONE OF THE
WAYS THAT DEMOCRATS, I THINK, HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE
GOING TO DO THEIR MESSAGING STRATEGY. I THINK THAT
OFTENTIMES THEY GET REALLY FRACTURED AROUND MESSAGING AND
I HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GOING ON OFFENSE AS OPPOSED TO
PLAYING DEFENSE. AND SO PART OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
ACKNOWLEDGING DONALD TRUMP'S CONVICTION IS A REGULAR FEATURE
IN THE WAY THE DEMOCRATS ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM AND NOT JUST
JOE BIDEN. YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN AS A MESSENGER HAS A PARTICULAR
ROLE, I THINK TO EXPLAIN TO THE COUNTRY WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO
OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS. BUT DEMOCRATS NEED AN ARMY OF
SURROGATES WHO ARE OUT THERE MAKING AN AFFIRMATIVE CASE
GOING ON OFFENSE GOING ON, ATTACK AGAINST DONALD TRUMP,
MAKING SURE THE COUNTRY UNDERSTANDS THAT HE'S A
CONVICTED FELON AND HE'S A CONVICTED BEEN CONVICTED OF
SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THAT HE'S BEEN CONVICTED OR, YOU KNOW,
THE THINGS THAT HE DID WITH THE TROP TRUMP ORG AND REMINDING
PEOPLE OF THE STANLEY INC OF JANUARY 6TH. YOU KNOW, IT IS
REALLY THIS ISN'T A THIS IS A CHOICE GOING TO BE A CHOICE
ABOUT. SO PEOPLE DISLIKE MORE. WHO'S THE LESSER OF 2 EVILS AND
YOU'VE GOT TO HELP VOTERS UNDERSTAND THAT TRUMP IS THE
GREATER OF THE BULLS. >> YEAH. JUST TO GET THAT LIST,
COMPLETE LIABLE OF SEXUAL ABUSE, DEFAMATION AND MASSIVE
FRAUD AND THEN CAN A CONVICTED FELON WHO IS OPENLY HELL-BENT
ON REVENGE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING LESS. THAT'S WHAT VOTERS
HAVE TO CONSIDER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPUBLICAN VOTERS
AGAINST TRUMP TRUMP. >> SARAH LONGWELL, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BEING ON THIS MORNING. PRESIDENT BIDEN ISSUED AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER YESTERDAY THAT WILL SHUT DOWN ASYLUM REQUESTS
AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. ONE CROSSINGS SPIKE UNDER THE
ORDER. BORDER OFFICIALS WILL STOP ACCEPTING REQUESTS WHEN
DAILY ENCOUNTERS REACH AN AVERAGE OF 2500 MIGRANTS AT
LEGAL POINTS OF ENTRY. THE SHUTDOWN WILL GO INTO EFFECT
IMMEDIATELY AS DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIALS SAY
ENCOUNTERS HAVE REACHED 4,000 MIGRANTS DAILY. THE BORDER WILL
ONLY REOPEN ONCE THE NUMBER FALLS TO 1500 MIGRANTS. JOINING
US NOW IS HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY ALEJANDRO MAYORKAS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING ON THE SHOW. OBVIOUSLY, THIS
HAS HAD MIXED REACTION EVEN FROM DEMOCRATS. BUT EXPLAIN HOW
THIS WORKS. WHAT HAPPENS AS THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER, THAT
ORDER GOES INTO EFFECT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE EXCESS OF NUMBER
OF MIGRANTS TRYING TO MAKE A CROSS OVER THE BORDER? >> MAKE A GOOD MORNING AND
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THE GOAL HERE IS TO REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE SOUTHERN BORDER, THE UNITED
STATES AND CROSS ILLEGALLY. OUR GOAL IS TO DRIVE PEOPLE WHO
SEEK AN NEED HUMANITARIAN RELIEF INTO THE LAWFUL, SAFE
AND ORDERLY PATHWAYS THAT WE HAVE BUILT. AND SO INDIVIDUALS
WHO ARRIVE AND CROSSING ILLEGALLY WILL BE
BARRED FROM ASYLUM WITH EXCEPTIONS. HOWEVER, UP 1400
PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE APPOINTMENTS THROUGH OUR CBP,
ONE APP WILL BE ABLE TO SEEK ASYLUM IN THE UNITED STATES
THROUGH OUR PORTS OF ENTRY. INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ACCESSED
OUR PAROLE PROGRAM FOR CUBANS, HAITIANS, NICARAGUANS AND
VENEZUELANS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS ASYLUM RELIEF IN THE
UNITED STATES. WE HAVE BUILT AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF LAWFUL
PATHWAYS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SECURE OUR BORDER AND REDUCE
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ENCOUNTERED AT IT. >> MISTER SECRETARY, GOOD
MORNING. I THINK THE QUESTION FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST
CONSERVATIVES HERE, BUT IS WHAT TOOK SO LONG TO GET TO THIS
PLACE. WE CAN GO WELL BEFORE THE LEGISLATION THAT A GROUP OF
SENATORS, BIPARTISAN GROUP OF SENATORS WORK HARD TO PRESENT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, REPUBLICANS IN THE CONGRESS TURNED THEIR
BACKS ON IT ON THE INSTRUCTION OF DONALD TRUMP GOING BACK EVEN
FURTHER THAN THAT. A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SHOW UP
AT THE BORDER CLAIM ASYLUM SOMETIMES LEGITIMATELY
SOMETIMES NOT AND THEN MOVE INTO THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY
KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS FOR THEIR ASYLUM HEARING TO
COME UP. WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG TO GET
TO THIS PLACE, WHICH DOES SEEM RATIONAL TO MANY PEOPLE? >> WELL, 2 POINTS, FIRST OF
ALL, YOU HAVE SEIZED ACCURATELY UPON THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM
WITH OUR ASYLUM SYSTEM THAT IT TAKES YEARS AND YEARS. AND WE
NEED CONGRESS TO FIX THAT. ONLY CONGRESS CAN PROVIDE THE
ENDURING SOLUTION, WHICH IS LEGISLATION. BUT LET'S TAKE A
LOOK AT THE CHRONOLOGY. ON DAY ONE OF HIS ADMINISTRATION, THE
PRESIDENT PRESENTED CONGRESS WITH A COMPREHENSIVE
LEGISLATION TO FIX OUR BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM SINCE THEN
AND UP UNTIL MAY OF LAST YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER
THE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER OF TITLE. 42 WHEN THAT ORDER WAS
LIFTED IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, WE DROVE THE NUMBERS DOWN
DESPITE SOME PREDICTIONS THAT PANDEMONIUM WOULD ENSUE.
SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE PRESIDENT IMPLORED CONGRESS TO
FUND THIS DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ADMINISTER OUR
IMMIGRATION LAWS AS WE NEED TO BE RESOURCED. HE IN AUGUST
SUBMITTED A SUPPLEMENTAL BEEN FUNDING PACKAGE. THEN AGAIN IN
OCTOBER, HE SUBMITTED ANOTHER SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING PACKAGE
AND NEITHER WAS PICKED UP BY CONGRESS MOST REGRETTABLY MOST.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE THEN WENT INTO AN ARDUOUS, HARDWORKING
PROCESS TO DEVELOP BIPARTISAN SENATE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD
HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY FIXED OUR ASYLUM SYSTEM AND ONCE AND FOR
ALL PROPERLY RESOURCED THIS DEPARTMENT AND THE DEPARTMENTS
OF JUSTICE AND STATE TWICE, CONGRESS FAILED PASS THAT LEGISLATION. AND SO
THE SO THE PRESIDENT TOOK THIS EXECUTIVE ACTION WITHIN HIS LAWFUL AUTHORITIES. >> MISTER SECRETARY, GOOD
MORNING. IT IS OUTLINED THE DOMESTIC POLITICAL CHALLENGES
WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE BORDER. BUT, OF COURSE, UNITED
STATES NOT ALONE IN THIS. THERE'S ALSO MEXICO AND THEY
JUST HAD A NEW ELECTION. SO CAN YOU TELL US THE
RELATIONSHIP AND THE GUIDELINES ARE GOING TO USE AS YOU
APPROACH THE NEW ADMINISTRATION THERE? ARE YOU HOPEFUL THAT
THEY WILL COOPERATE? >> WE HAVE BUILT A VERY STRONG
AND PRODUCTIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH MEXICO WITH PRESIDENT
LOPEZ OBRADOR. WE EXPECT THAT STRONG AND PRODUCTIVE
PARTNERSHIP TO CONTINUE UNDER THE PRESIDENCY OF CLAUDIA
SHEINBAUM. AND THIS CHALLENGE OF MIGRATION IS
A REGIONAL CHALLENGE AND IT REQUIRES REGIONAL SOLUTIONS NOT
JUST IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MEXICO, BUT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
OTHER COUNTRIES SUCH AS COSTA RICA, PANAMA, COLOMBIA,
GUATEMALA, ECUADOR AND THE LIKE WE ARE EXPERIENCING NOT JUST AT
THE SOUTHERN BORDER BUT THROUGHOUT OUR HEMISPHERE AND
AROUND THE WORLD. AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF
MIGRATION, AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF DISPLACED PEOPLE AND
REGIONAL CHALLENGES REQUIRE REGIONAL SOLUTIONS. >> HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY
ALEJANDRO MAYORKAS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING.
WE APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. >> LET'S GET TO OUR TOP STORY
THIS SECOND HOUR OF MORNING JOE. DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN
SUGGESTING HIS POLITICAL OPPONENTS COULD BE JAILED IF HE
WINS RE-ELECTION AS RETRIBUTION FOR LAST WEEK'S GUILTY VERDICT
AGAINST HIM IN NEW YORK CITY. IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE
FAR-RIGHT NETWORK NEWSMAX. LAST NIGHT, TRUMP CONTINUED TO
CLAIM HE DIDN'T RECEIVE A FAIR TRIAL COMPLAINING THE JURORS
NEVER SMILED AT HIM. HE ALSO THREATENED TO
PROSECUTORS PERCEIVED FOES, INCLUDING FORMER SECRETARY OF
STATE HILLARY CLINTON WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VERDICT
AGAINST HIM. >> MOTHER TERESA COULDN'T GET A
FAIR TRIAL HERE. SAID THAT KNOW YOU COULDN'T I I NEVER SAW A
GLIMMER OF A SMILE FROM THE JURY THAT IT WAS A TRIAL THAT
EVERYBODY SAID SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT, INCLUDING BRAGG, DID
WANT TO BRING IT. NOBODY WANTED TO BRING IT. SO I DECIDED TO
RUN AND THEN WAS BEATING EVERYBODY
BY A LOT AND THEN WAS BEATING BIDEN BY A LOT IN THE POLLS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY
TERRIBLE SAYING IT'S A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
DOES THAT MEAN THE NEXT PRESIDENT DOES IT TO THEM?
THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION WHAT WE SHOULD TERRIBLE, TOO
THROW THE PRESIDENT'S WIFE AND THE FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE
TO YOU THAT I JUST THINK OF IT, THE FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE.
BUT THE PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT'S WIFE IN THE JAIL
WOULD NOT BE A TERRIBLE TAKE, BUT THEY WANT TO DO IT. SO, YOU
KNOW, IT'S SUCH IT'S IT'S A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE PAST THAT
THEY'RE LEADING US TO. AND IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN TO
THEM. >> YES, SO THERE WE GO ONCE
AGAIN, WILLIE, DONALD TRUMP THREATENING TO JAIL. HIS
POLITICAL BOSS SAYS HE HAS REPEATEDLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS SEVERAL YEARS.
WHAT'S SO INTERESTING IS THAT AGAIN, HERE'S THE BIG LIE THAT
DONALD TRUMP TELLS ABOUT THESE PROSECUTIONS, ALL THE
PROSECUTIONS AGAINST HIM. WILLIE, AS THAT IT WILL EITHER DIDN'T BELIEVE
HE'S HERE. I WAS LIKE I WAS A GOOD TIME, ALI. YEAH, HE WAS
SECOND. I'VE BEEN THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REALLY SINCE 603.
HAHA. IN 2019 ON THE SHOW, WE SAID IF DONALD TRUMP LOST, HE WOULD RUN AGAIN FOR
RE-ELECTION TO AVOID ALL THE PROSECUTIONS AGAINST HIM.
WHEN HE RAN, THERE WAS OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHY IS DONALD
TRUMP RUNNING AGAIN? THE ANSWER WAS BECAUSE OF YOU ONCE AGAIN,
HE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY THAT ALL OF THESE PROSECUTIONS THAT ARE
COMING ARE POLITICALLY AND FLORENCE.
SO WE ALL SAW THIS COMING. PEOPLE ALL SAW THIS COMING FOR
HIM TO NOW SAY, OH, THEY'RE ONLY COMING UP TO ME FOR HIS
ALLIES SAY, OH, THEY'RE ONLY COMING UP FOR HIM BECAUSE HE'S
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. ACTUALLY HAS THAT BACKWARDS.
HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE
PROSECUTED. >> YEAH, THAT'S THE BET.
IF HE WINS, IT ALL GOES AWAY. HE'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THE
CASE. THAT WAS JUST A SIDE WITH A 34 FELONY GUILTY VERDICTS
AGAINST THEM. LAST WEEK. HE SUCCESSFULLY HAS USED DELAY
TACTICS. HIS TEAM HAS TO PROBABLY GET THESE PUSH PAST
THE ELECTION. HE THINKS IF HE WINS MERRICK GARLAND'S OUT, HE
PUTS I DON'T KNOW, DON JUNIOR AND HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL OR
SOMETHING AND EVERYTHING GOES AWAY. AND JONATHAN, THERE'S
ACTUALLY A AXIOS HAS A LITTLE BIT OF REPORTING THIS MORNING
QUOTING STEVE BANNON, TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. BUT A
VOICE OF A MAGA WORLD SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AFTER
ALVIN BRAGG FIRST AND TRY TO PUT HIM IN JAIL. SO, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS A LOT OF PEOPLE GO, OH, IT'S DONALD TRUMP POPPING
OFF. IT'S WHAT HE DOES. IS IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS TALL AND A
NEWSMAX, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS STUFF SERIOUSLY, GIVEN
THAT ONLY WHO HE IS, BUT WHO HE HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH.
WE'VE LEARNED THAT WHEN HE'S MAKES A THREAT LIKE THIS, WE
HAVE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. AND WHAT'S DIFFERENT HERE?
THERE'S A LOT OF REPUBLICAN ANGER FOR YEARS NOW. THEY CLAIM
THE WITCH HUNTS AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. BUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT
ABOUT THIS FOR US? JUST HOW OUT IN THE OPEN IT IS AND HOW
THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO BE SUBTLE. THERE'S NO EUPHEMISMS
HERE. THERE'S NO SORT OF LIKE LET'S BE CLEVER. THEY'RE FLAT
OUT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER THOSE WHO HAVE DONE THIS
TO DONALD TRUMP. YES, STEVE BANNON TALKING ABOUT ALVIN
BRAGG. WE HAVE SPEAKER JOHNSON, HOUSE SPEAKER YESTERDAY SAYING
THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A PART OF JUSTICE TO TRY TO DEFUND A
LOT OF WHAT WE CAN DO AS PAYBACK. THEY SAY FOR THE BIDEN
DOJ GOING AFTER DONALD TRUMP. NOW, OF COURSE, THE LIMIT WHAT
THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO. BUT THE THREAT IS STILL THERE AND IT
ERODES AMERICANS. FAITH IS IN OUR INSTITUTIONS. THIS IS BUT
ONE OF THE MOST DOMINANT THEMES, MIKE OF THE TRUMP ERROR
IS GOING AFTER PERCEIVING UN SAYS WHETHER IT'S THE FBI OR
THE MEDIA AND THEY'VE SINGLED OUT THOSE OF US THERE AS WELL AS AS
THE TARGETS FOR RETRIBUTION AND TRY TO GET AMERICANS TO SAY,
HEY, LOOK, THEY'RE NOT ON OUR SIDE THERE FOR THEM AND REALLY
VILIFIED EVERYONE. AND IT'S PUTTING US IN A VERY DANGEROUS
PLACE. >> THE MOST DOMINANT ASPECT, I
WOULD SUGGEST NOT ONE OF THE MOST DOMINANT ASPECT. AND, YOU KNOW, LARGELY THIS IS
MY PERSONAL VIEW NOW. BUT AT SOME POINT, AMERICANS
HAVE TO ASK THEMSELVES WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DO WE WANT?
AND THIS PARTICULAR DAY IT'S WILL SACK RELIGIOUS TO BE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID AND WHAT HE DOES, WHAT HE
MEANS AND WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO. WE JUST SPOKE TO A MAN WHO
JUST FINISHED A BOOK ON EISENHOWER TALKING ABOUT THE
NIGHT BEFORE D-DAY WHEN GENERAL EISENHOWER WENT
THROUGH THE 100ST AIRBORNE, SHAKING HANDS AND HE KNEW THAT
EVERY OTHER HAND HE SHOOK. IT WAS A YOUNG, 18, 1920
YEAR-OLD PARATROOPER. I WAS GOING TO DIE WITHIN 12 HOURS ON THE BEACHES
IN NORMANDY OR INSANE. MAYOR ED LEE'S SOMEWHERE IN NORMANDY,
WE'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUNG AMERICAN. WHY WERE THEY GOING?
THEY WERE GOING TO FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY ALL THESE YEARS
LATER, 18 YEARS LATER, DEMOCRACY IS AGAIN, CAROL.
THAT'S THE FACT THAT'S A FACT LISTING TO DONALD TRUMP.
THAT'S A FACT THAT WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH. AND THAT'S A FACT
THAT AMERICANS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE UP THEIR MINDS
ABOUT WHAT KIND OF A COUNTRY DO WE WANT GOING FORWARD. AND
JOHN, WE MAY HEAR SOME OF THAT. >> SEEN FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN
TOMORROW AT NORMANDY WHEN HE DELIVERS ADDRESS WILL BE THERE
ALL WEEK. AS YOU REPORTED YESTERDAY, ALBEIT BELLA WOODS
LATER IN THE WEEK. THE WORLD WAR ONE SAY WHICH IS SACRED TO
THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS BE THERE ALL WEEK, TALKING
ABOUT THE YOUNG MEN WHO FRANKLY SAVE THE WORLD IN THOSE
DAYS, WEEKS AND MONTHS, BUT ALSO ABOUT BRING IT TO TODAY AND THE
THREATS TO DEMOCRACY HERE. AS MIKE SAID, IT'S HARD NOT TO
MUST BE EMOTIONAL, THINKING ABOUT THE SCENE WITH
EISENHOWER. TALK TO THOSE PARATROOPERS WERE GOING TO
PRESENT SEVERAL TIMES THIS WEEK MARKED A MARCH IN THE
RELATIVELY BRIEF WILL BE ONE OF A NUMBER OF WORLD LEADERS WHO
WILL SPEAK ON THE D-DAY ANNIVERSARY ITSELF. IT'S THE
NEXT DAY THE FRIDAY WHERE HE GOES PUMP TALK, WHICH IS WHERE
RONALD REAGAN DELIVERED HIS FAMOUS SPEECH WHERE HE WILL
DELIVER A MAJOR ADDRESS TALKING ABOUT YES, THE SACRIFICES OF 80
YEARS AGO THAT HELPED SAVE THE WORLD BUT CONNECTING IT TO
TODAY. THE BATTLE WERE SEEN IN UKRAINE BUT ALSO JUST THE NEED
TO AFFIRM AND REBUILD DEMOCRACIES ACROSS THE GLOBE.
AND I'M TOLD THE ODDS ARE AGAINST HIM INVOKING DONALD
TRUMP BY NAME BUT TRUMP WILL SHADOW THE SPEECHES. HE WILL
DRAW AN IMPLICIT CONTRAST TO THE FUTURE THAT TRUMP WOULD
BRING VERSUS THE ONE THAT HE WHAT, ONE WITH ALLIES, ONE WITH
DEFENDING DEMOCRACY. WE CERTAINLY KNOW DONALD TRUMP
WILL TAKE A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THE UKRAINE WORK
WORKING TO BE RETURNED TO OFFICE. WE KNOW HE ALMOST
PULLED OUT OF NATO A FEW YEARS AGO ON THE EVE OF GOING TO
HELSINKI AND SIDING WITH PUTIN OVER HIS OWN GOVERNMENT. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT IN IN
IN IN GRAND TERMS, JOE, FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN IN WHAT AIDES
TELL ME WILL BE ONE OF MOST IMPORTANT SPEECHES HE DELIVERS
THIS YEAR. ONE THAT WILL NOT ON ITS SURFACE BE A CAMPAIGN
SPEECH, BUT HE'S GOING TO LAY OUT SOME OF MOST IMPORTANT
THEMES OF THE ELECTION AHEAD. >> YEAH, AND CATTY, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE
CHOICES. MY TALKING ABOUT THE CHOICE IS WE TALK ABOUT THE
CHOICES. WE'RE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON. YOU HAVE
JONATHAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NATO. OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP
TRYING TO UNDERMINE NATO, SAID HE WANTED TO UNDERMINE
NATO, SAID A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT HE ENCOURAGED VLADIMIR
PUTIN WOULD ENCOURAGE VLADIMIR PUTIN TO INVADE NATO COUNTRIES
IF THEY DID AND HAVE THIS SORT OF DEFENSE STRUCTURE THAT HE
WANTS THEM TO HAVE. OF COURSE, HE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING HILLARY
CLINTON IN JAIL, THROWING POLITICAL OPPONENTS IN JAIL IS
PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THROWING US IN GEL THROWING
PEOPLE THAT RUN THE SHOW IN JAIL. THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT
THROWING MEDIA COMPANIES IN JAIL THAT ARE INSUFFICIENTLY
LOYAL. HE TALKS ABOUT EXECUTING CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF
STAFF WHO ARE INSUFFICIENTLY POLITICALLY LOYAL. THEY HAVE HE
TALKS ABOUT TERMINATING THE CONSTITUTION. HE TALKS ABOUT
USING SEAL TEAM 6 TO EXECUTE POLITICAL OPPONENTS AND SAYS
THAT HE WOULD BE YOU FROM THAT. HE ACTUALLY HAD HIS. HIS
LAWYERS ARGUE THAT IT IN IN IN COURT. YOU CAN GO GO THROUGH.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH ALL OF IT. AND IT IS IT'S EXTRAORDINARY
THAT THIS IS IT'S EXTRAORDINARY THAT THIS MAN TALKING LIKE AN AUTOCRAT
TALKING LIKE AND THAT RIGHT NOW THIS RACE IS
TOO CLOSE TO CALL. >> TEXAS RADIO HOST RYAN
HAMILTON IS SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HIS STATE'S STRICT
ABORTION LAWS AFTER PERSONALLY SEEING HOW THEY AFFECTED HIS
FAMILY. IN A LENGTHY SOCIAL MEDIA POST, RYAN REVEALED HIS
WIFE JUST HAD SUFFERED AN INCOMPLETE MISCARRIAGE AND
THEIR SECOND CHILD NO LONGER HAD A HEARTBEAT, QUOTE, WHAT
NEEDED TO HAPPEN, WHAT WAS BEST FOR HER AND HER
HEALTH WAS TO TERMINATE THE PREGNANCY AND GET THE BABY OUT. HE GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT THE
SECOND DOCTOR THEY SAW DURING AN EMERGENCY HOSPITAL VISIT.
QUOTE, YOU COULD HEAR HIM IN THE HALLWAY. AS HE SAID, I'M
NOT GIVING HER A PILL SO SHE CAN GO HOME AND HAVE AN
ABORTION BEING WELL AWARE THAT OUR BABY NO LONGER HAD A
HEARTBEAT. THEY TRIED TO SERVE DOCTOR AT A NEW HOSPITAL.
QUOTE, IT'S BECOMING CLEAR THAT THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN, IT'S NOT
MY WIFE'S HEALTH. HE SAID INSTEAD THEY SEEM TO BE WORRIED
ABOUT THE LEGALITIES INVOLVED AFTER BEING SENT HOME FOR THE
3RD TIME. RYAN DETAILS A TERRIFYING MOMENT WHERE HE
FOUND HIS WIFE PASSED OUT ON THE GROUND. QUOTE, HAVING TO
PICK MY WIFE'S COLD LIMP BODY OFF THAT BATHROOM FLOOR. NOT SURE IF I WAS ABOUT TO LOSE
HER IS SOMETHING I WILL NEVER FORGET. SHE HAD TO BE RUSHED TO
THE HOSPITAL. BUT THIS POINT SHE HAD LOST SO MUCH BLOOD AND
BODILY FLUID. HER BODY GAVE OUT NOW. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO
LIVE WITH THE LOSS OF OUR BABY. WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE
NIGHTMARE OF WHAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED BECAUSE OF
POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. MY WIFE'S HEALTH
SHOULD HAVE COME FIRST. SHERRI, A SUPPORTERS OF ABORTION RIGHTS
HAVE HIGHLIGHTED TRAGIC STORIES LIKE THIS IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE
THE ISSUE KEY HEADED INTO THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. TODAY
DEMOCRATIC SENATORS WILL TAKE ANOTHER STAFF HOLDING A VOTE ON
A BILL MEANT TO PROTECT CONTRACEPTIVES. THE MOVE IS IN
REACTION TO DONALD TRUMP SAYING IN A RECENT INTERVIEW THE WOULD
BE OPEN TO RESTRICTIONS ON CONTRACEPTION ONLY TO BACKTRACK
THE COMMENTS HOURS LATER. TODAY'S DEAL IS NOT EXPECTED TO
GARNER ENOUGH REPUBLICAN SUPPORT TO PASS BUT DEMOCRATS
WANT GOP SENATORS ON THE RECORD. JOINING US NOW,
DEMOCRATIC SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN OF MASSACHUSETTS.
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW. WE'RE CLEARLY NO LONGER TALKING IN
HYPOTHETICALS WHEN IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP'S PROMISE US AS WE
ARE NOW LIVING THROUGH THIS. SO TELL US WHAT'S AT STAKE WITH
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. >> SO, LOOK, WE ARE ONLY 60
YEARS SINCE THE SUPREME COURT PROTECTED ACCESS TO
CONTRACEPTION 50 YEARS SINCE THEY PROTECTED ACCESS TO
ABORTION. WE SAW WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DID ON CAUGHT ON
ABORTION AND NOW THERE'S A REAL RISK. THEY MAY DO THE SAME
THING ON CONTRACEPTION. INDEED. ONE OF THE JUSTICES HAS ALREADY
SAID SO. BUT MORE TO THE POINT, I'M
REALLY SICK OF THIS IDEA THAT THE REPUBLICANS THINK THEY CAN
SAY 2 THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY. THEY CAN TALK TO THEIR
EXTREMIST GROUP AND SAY I'LL GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT.
WE'RE GOING TO BAN ABORTION. I V S CONTRACEPTION, EVERYTHING
YOU WANT AND THEN TRY TO SAY TO THE REST OF AMERICA THAT SAYS
POINT, WE DON'T WANT ANY PART OF THAT. THEY SAY NO, NO, WE
REALLY DON'T MEAN IT WAS VERY MODERATE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO
THAT. CALM DOWN. THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM HERE. WELL, MY VIEW IS
I WANT TO HEAR YOUR WORDS WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
SO TODAY WE'RE PUTTING A BILL ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE
THAT'S GOING TO HAVE EVERY SENATOR VOTE. ARE YOU WILLING TO SUPPORT A
FEDERAL LAW TO PROTECT ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTION? YES OR NO.
AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THE REPUBLICANS STAND ON THIS. >> SO, OF COURSE, SENATOR,
YOU'RE KIND OF CLARENCE THOMAS IN THE CONCURRING OPINION OF
DOBBS SAID NOW THAT WE'VE OVERTURNED THE CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHT TO ABORTION, WE CAN LOOK AT CONTRACEPTION AXED. >> THE TIMING OF YOUR
LEGISLATION OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T BE A MORE VITAL. THE LEAD
STORY. THE TOP OF THE WASHINGTON POST THIS MORNING,
CONSERVED IN THE TAX ON BIRTH CONTROL COULD THREATEN THE
ACCESS AND THEY GO DOWN THE LIST OF STATES FROM IDAHO,
LOUISIANA TO MISSOURI WHO ARE SPREADING MISINFORMATION.
STATE LEGISLATURE'S TAKING THAT MISINFORMATION TO PASS BILLS
THAT ACTUALLY CURB THE RIGHT TO CONTRACEPTION. YS. >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THE THING
ABOUT THIS IS IT'S NOT JUST AND A HANDFUL OF STATES WHERE THE
THREAT EXISTS. IT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
THE FACT THAT ABORTION WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN 2024. SO WILL
IDF AND SO WILL CONTRACEPTION IF THE REPUBLICANS GET IN
CHARGE. LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY WANT TO DO.
THERE IS A BILL PENDING IN THE HOUSE. THAT IS A LIFE BEGINS AT
CONCEPTION, BILL. AND IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE MAJORITY OF
REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE, INCLUDING THE SPEAKER OF THE
HOUSE. THAT BILL WOULD MAKE IT
IMPOSSIBLE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO USE IUDS OR TO USE PLAN B,
THEY WOULD JUST BE MEDICALLY TREATED AS MURDER. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET
EVERYBODY ON THE RECORD AND MAKE IT CLEAR ALL ACROSS THIS
COUNTRY. ABORTION IS ON THE BALLOT. IDS IS ON THE BALLOT.
CONTRACEPTION IS ON THE BALLOT AND THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS
WHO DON'T WANT AN EXTREMIST MINORITY TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL
THEM AND TO ADVANCE THEIR AGENDA OVER THAT OF AND THE
DECISIONS OF EVERYONE ELSE. THAT'S WHAT'S AT STAKE IN 2024.
AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE VOTING TODAY. >> AND YEAH, THERE'S ALWAYS
THIS CHARACTERIZATION OF LOOK AT THE EXTREMISTS AND RURAL
STATES HERE. LOOK AT THE EXTREME US THERE. LET'S LOOK
INSTEAD AT VIRGINIA, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOUNG CAN WHO
SUPPOSED TO BE AND HE'S AN INVESTMENT BANKER ARE HE'S AT
HE'S A MORE MODERATE REPUBLICAN. HE'S HE'S NOT CRAZY
LIKE THE REST OF THOSE PEOPLE. GLENN YOUNGKIN ACTUALLY VETOED
A BILL THAT WOULD GUARANTEE WOMEN IN VIRGINIA THE RIGHT TO
CONTRACEPTION AND HIS JUSTIFICATION WAS HE HAD TO
VETO IT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT GIVING WOMEN THE RIGHT THAT
THEY'VE HAD SINCE 1965 WOULD, QUOTE, TRAMPLE ON THE RELIGIOUS
FREEDOMS OF VIRGINIANS. THAT'S A CRAZY THIS IS BECAUSE, YEAH. >> YEAH. AND THAT'S HOW EXTREME
IT HAS BECOME. YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 90% OF AMERICANS WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE GET ACCESS TO CONTRACEPTION.
SO HERE'S THIS GROUP THAT'S LESS THAN 10% OF OUR COUNTRY ACTUALLY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE
STEERING WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. AND DONALD TRUMP AND THE
REPUBLICANS ARE NOT JUST PLAYING ALONG WITH IT. THEY'RE
ACTUALLY EMPOWERING IT AND MAKING IT COME TO PASS. ALWAYS
REMEMBER THAT WHEN TRUMP RAN BACK IN 2016, HE SAID THAT HE
WOULD APPOINT DOT RIGHT JUSTICES. AND THAT IS EXACTLY
WHAT HE DID. HE PUT THE JUSTICES IN PLACE THAT
OVERTURNED ROE. PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY
ARE NOW DEALING WITH THE FALLOUT FROM THAT AND THEY'RE
NOT QUITTING THEIR. THEY WANT MORE AND MORE AND MORE. THEY'RE
NOT QUITTING JUST AT THE STATE LEVEL. THEY'RE COMING AFTER ALL
OF THE STATES NATIONALLY. THEY WANT TO BAN ABORTIONS.
THEY WANT TO BAN CONTRACEPTION. THEY WANT TO BAN IVS AND IT'S
UP TO US BOTH TO OUT THEM ON THAT AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE BALLOT
BOX IN NOVEMBER 2024. >> WHAT I THINK MAKE WHAT THE
SENATOR SAID IS SO IMPORTANT. I KNOW THE SENATOR LIKE YOU
LIKE ME BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS A RELIGIOUS RIGHT. THE BELIEF
WHAT THEY BELIEVE. I KNOW THAT THAT SOME CATHOLICS, A SMALL
PERCENTAGE OF CATHOLICS HAVE LONG BELIEVED THAT TAKING
CONTRACEPTIVES IS SENT OKAY THAT THIS IS AMERICA. CERTAINLY
YOUR RELIGIOUS RIGHT TO BELIEVE THAT. BUT DON'T TRY TO HAVE IT
BOTH WAYS. DON'T SAY, OH, NO, NO, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO
FOLLOW. ALONG WITH A 10% ARE THE 7% FOR THE 5% IN AMERICA
WHO BELIEVES THAT. AND THEN QUIETLY BEHIND THE SCENE, PUSH
THROUGH LEGISLATION ON STATE LEVELS ARE VETO THAT VERY
RIGHT. >> WE'VE ALREADY SEEING WHAT
DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH WOMEN'S RIGHTS. SO IF
THE FACT THAT HE IS LIABLE OF SEXUAL ABUSE, MASSIVE FRAUD,
DEFAMATION AND FOUND GUILTY ON 34 FELONY COUNTS IS NOT ENOUGH.
PERHAPS THINK ABOUT. MOORE WRITES THAT HE CAN TAKE AWAY
FROM WOMEN, INCLUDING THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN. >> THANK YOU. SO, SENATOR, WHAT
SNACKS WITH THIS LEGISLATION REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE WE WE
KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO, BUT WHAT'S NEXT? >> SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD
AND BRANCH OF THE FLOOR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY
VOTE ON IT. EVERYBODY IS ON THE RECORD AND THE PLAN IS WE'RE
GOING TO DO THE SAME WITH IVF. WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME ONCE
AGAIN WITH ABORTION. WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY AMBIGUITY
HERE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SENATORS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. >> YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHICH SIDE
THEY STAND ON. THIS IS BE CLEAR. I'M SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT
UP BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OFF. LET'S BE CLEAR. THE REPUBLICANS
AND THE SENATE KEEP KILLING BILLS THAT WOULD GUARANTEE
FAMILIES ACROSS AMERICA. THE RIOT, THE PROTECTED RIGHT
TO HAVE IVF TREATMENT. >> YES, YES, YES. TODAY WE'RE
GOING TO CONTRACEPTION AND GOT THEM ON THE RECORD ON
CONTRACEPTION. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO GET THEM ON THE RECORD
ON ICF AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM ON THE RECORD ONCE AGAIN
ON ABORTION BECAUSE NO ONE SHOULD BE FOOLED HERE. THIS IS
WHAT THE ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER IS ABOUT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A
TINY MINORITY IN THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO DETERMINE ACCESS TO
FAMILY, PLANNING, HEALTH, REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS FOR HALF
THE POPULATION IN THIS COUNTRY. AND I THINK THAT'S A NO FOR
MOST AMERICANS. AND THAT MEANS THEY NEED TO VOTE WITH THE
DEMOCRATS COME NOVEMBER. >> SO WE'LL BE FOLLOWING THESE
VOTES AND MAKING SURE WE COVER THE OUTCOME OF EACH OF THESE
VOTES AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK. SO WE CAN HIGHLIGHT
THOSE WHO VOTED NO. AND YES ON EACH OF THESE ISSUES THAT
PEOPLE ARE VERY CLEAR EXACTLY AS TO WHAT'S AT STAKE. SENATOR
ELIZABETH WARREN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON THIS
MORNING. WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. >> PAINTERS AND AIRMEN OF THE
ALLIED EXPEDITIONARY FORCE. YOU ARE ABOUT TO EMBARK UPON
THE GREAT CRUSADE TOWARD WHICH WE HAVE STRIVEN
THESE MANY MONTHS. THE EYES OF THE WORLD ARE UPON
YOU. THE HOPES AND PRAYERS OF
LIBERTY LOVING PEOPLE EVERYWHERE. MARCH WITH YOU IN COMPANY WITH OUR GREAT ALLY
AND BROTHERS IN ARMS ON OTHER FRONTS, YOU WILL BRING ABOUT THE
DESTRUCTION OF THE GERMAN WAR MACHINE. THE ELIMINATION OF NOT TO KAREN
THE OVER THE OPPRESSED PEOPLES OF EUROPE AND SECURITY FOR OURSELVES IN A
FREE WORLD. >> THAT IS GENERAL DWIGHT DAVID
EISENHOWER. HIS MESSAGE TO ALLIED TROOPS ON THE EVE OF
WHAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE MOST PIVOTAL MOMENTS OF THE 20TH
CENTURY, THE STORMING OF THE BEACHES AT NORMANDY, WHICH
PAVED THE WAY FOR THE LIBERATION OF FRANCE AND
ULTIMATELY ALL OF EUROPE. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IN FRANCE
THIS MORNING RIGHT NOW SET TO DELIVER REMARKS IN NORMANDY
TOMORROW TO COMMEMORATE THE 80TH ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY.
JOINING US NOW, HISTORIAN AND PROFESSOR OF LAW AT COLUMBIA
LAW SCHOOL, MICHELLE PARODY. HE'S AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK,
THE LIGHT OF BATTLE EISENHOWER, D-DAY, AND THE BIRTH OF THE
AMERICAN SUPERPOWER. MICHELLE, GOOD MORNING. SO GREAT TO HAVE
YOU WITH US. YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY INTERESTED IN THE
SUBJECT AROUND THE TABLE, SO PASSED AROUND. BUT YOU'VE
GOT ACCESS TO ARCHIVAL MATERIAL THAT WE JUST
HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING
ABOUT D-DAY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE THAT'S INTERESTED IN IT.
YOU READ EVERY BOOK. YOU WATCH ALL THE DOCUMENTARIES, BUT TELL
US, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHED ON THIS? >> I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT
LET ACTION ON IT WAS THE LIGHT ON THE COMMANDER HIMSELF, YOU
KNOW, WASN'T OR IS THIS RECEIVED FIGURE WHO, YOU KNOW,
HAS THIS IS OUR GRANDFATHER IN SOME WAYS AND HIS PRESIDENCY
WAS CERTAINLY DEFINED BUT BEING A TRYING TO LOOK BORING AND THE
YOU KNOW WHAT, THE 2 MILLION OR MORE STORIES THAT COME OUT OF
THE DAY. THE ONE THAT I THINK IS THE MOST DRAMATIC MOMENTS
RELAY DOUBLE TO US TODAY IS THE MAN IN THE MIDDLE WHO HAD TO
STRUGGLE THROUGH IT ALL AND TO PROJECT OPTIMISM, EVEN THOUGH
AT ALL TIMES YOU KNEW IT WAS ALL IT WAS ON THE VERGE
OF COLLAPSE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN ON THE EVE OF BATTLE, HIS
CHIEF OF STAFF PREDICTED THAT THERE'S MAYBE A 50, 50 CHANCE
OF IT SUCCEEDING AND HAD FAILED. YOU KNOW WHAT WORLD WE
LIVE IN TO THE RIGHT. THAT'S AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE. WE DON'T
WANT TO CONTEMPLATE INCHES AWAY. AND >> YOU'RE TALKING TO GET INTO
IN THE BOOK, THE PLANNING OF D-DAY, WHICH THERE'S IT'S BEEN
WELL DOCUMENTED. BUT THE FACT THAT THEY PULLED THIS OFF AND
YOU REALLY CONSIDER IT ALL FEELS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE IN
OTHERS, THE HEAD FAKE THAT THEY THEY CONVINCED HITLER, THEY
WERE COMING SOMEWHERE. THEY WEREN'T. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
EARLY STAGES OF THE IDEA AND HOW OUTRAGEOUS IT MUST HAVE
SOUNDED TO SO MANY PEOPLE? >> IT'S OUT OF THE REGISTER.
MOST PEOPLE MOST, ESPECIALLY THE BRITISH TO THAT POINT WERE
PROBABLY THE PREEMINENT EMPIRE IN THE WORLD. AND WHEN THE
AMERICANS CAME IN IN 1942, AND SAID, HERE'S ARE GOING TO BE HIT,
LEARNING A CROSSING, THE SHOW IN CHARGE TO RELIVING THE THE
BRITISH ARE LIKE, NO, YOU'RE NOT. WE CAN. WE CAN TELL YOU
ALL THE REASONS WHY YOU CAN'T DO THAT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA.
AND MOREOVER, WHY I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING BETTER, AWFUL START
PURSUING SOME BRITISH IMPERIAL INTEREST IN THE MEDITERRANEAN
IN THE MEANTIME. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN HAD BEEN
SHELLED FOR YEARS, DEFERRED DEFERRED. AND FINALLY AT A CAR CONFERENCE
IN CAIRO IN 1943, CHURCHILL AND ROSEVILLE MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HAVE
ESSENTIALLY A SHOWDOWN OVER WHETHER TO FINALLY LAUNCH THIS
CROSS CHANNEL ENVISION AS THE STUDY A STUDENT OF HISTORY.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER READ PROCEEDINGS FROM A SUMMIT THAT
WAS ACRIMONIOUS WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, 60 YEAR-OLD MEN ON
THE VERGE OF A FIST FIGHT OVER WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD
CONTINUE TO PURSUE OPERATIONS AND THE TRAINING OR PURSUE THIS
HIGH RISK HIGH REWARD OPERATION ACROSS THE ENGLISH CHANNEL.
AND ULTIMATELY A COMPROMISE IS CUT THE DECIDE TO GO ACROSS IN THE SHOW AND CONDUCT
OPERATION OVERLORD. BUT THE FIRST THING THAT DWIGHT
EISENHOWER SEES AS BOTH THE GENERAL AND HAS A HISTORY AS A
STUDENT OF MILITARY HISTORY IS IT'S JUST WAY TOO SMALL.
YOU KNOW, THIS COMPROMISE IS SHORTCHANGING WHAT THEY NEED
TO. AND ULTIMATELY HE HAS TO DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE
INVASION, WHICH BECOMES PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST, YOU
KNOW, SENSITIVE DIPLOMATIC THINGS HE HAS TO DO RIGHT AS HE
GETS THE JOB. BUT THE ULTIMATE PULLS IT OFF, CONVINCES THE
BRITISH GO LONG. IT'S NOT ONLY GO ALONG WITH THE ENVISION,
SUPPORTED THE TO EXPAND THAT. AND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S
BASICALLY SPENT THE NEXT 5 MONTHS GETTING EVERY DETAIL IN
PLACE AND HOPING THAT EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES AND THEN EVERYONE HE'S LEADING
TO DO WILL ULTIMATELY COME OFTEN TIMES COME. >> SO PULLING THIS BOOK
TOGETHER, THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DID FOR THE BOOK AND THE
RESEARCH THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO. YOU'VE GOT DWIGHT
EISENHOWER, CAREER MILITARY MAN. HE KNOWS FROM THE MOMENT THE
GENERAL GAVIN IN THE 82ND JUMP OUT. 1 2 O'CLOCK IN THE
MORNING. HE NOTES WHEN THEY WIND AND UTAH AND OMAHA,
THERE'S GOING TO BE HORRIFIC CASUALTY RATE. WHAT IMPACT IF
ANY THAT HAVE ON HIM? >> AND WARMEST IMPACT. AND THIS
IS WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST SO
ADMIRE A BULB OUT BECAUSE HE'S THE NIGHT BEFORE THE ENVISION
JUNE 5TH. HE GIVES THE ORDER TO GO. THERE ARE PREDICTIONS HERE.
HE'S ESSENTIALLY BETTING ON THE WEATHER AT THAT POINT AND HE
PERSONALLY GOES TO SEA OFF THE 100ST AIRBORNE AND HE'S NOT
EVEN RECOGNIZED RIGHT AWAY. HE GOES UP IN A VERY MARKED CAR
AND JUST STARTS WALKING BETWEEN THESE YOUNG MEN WHO ARE YOUNGER
THAN HIS SON, WHO IS GRADUATING FROM WEST POINT THE NEXT DAY
THEY'RE ALL PAINTED UP LIKE IN WAR PAINT. THEY THEY LOOK LIKE
HOMEOWNERS AFTER A SHIFT AND HE WALKS FROM. AND AND JUST WHERE
YOU FROM, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO ENJOY FISSION?
AND, YOU KNOW, HE MAKES A POINT AS HE SHAKES EACH MAN'S HAND TO
LOOK HIM IN THE EYE KNOWING. AND HE'S BEEN TOLD THAT
ANYWHERE FROM A QUARTER TO HALF OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE KILLED.
AND HE KNOWS THAT EVERY OTHER HAND YOU SHAKING AS A YOUNG BOY
WHO IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A FUTURE. BUT WAS THERE TOO TO,
YOU KNOW, DO WHAT HE'S ORDERED THEM TO DO, BUT ULTIMATELY TO
DO, YOU KNOW, TRY AND SAVE THE WORLD. THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT
WAS AT STAKE. WE ALL KNOW THE STORY THAT EISENHOWER PREPARE
THE LETTER ABOUT THAT HAVE BEEN A FAILURE. WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PLANNED?
JUST SAY THAT HADN'T WORKED. AS YOU SAID, IT WAS THE BEST, A
50 50 CALL. WHAT HAPPENED THE NEXT DAY? WHAT WOULD ROOSEVELT
AND EISENHOWER HAVE RECOMMENDED? HOW IN THE COURSE
OF THE WORD CHANGE? WELL, EISENHOWER AND FIRED AND WE
WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HIM THE WAY WE TALK ABOUT GENERAL
MCCLELLAN PROBABLY. BUT THE LIMITS ON ALLIED STRATEGY AT
THAT POINT WOULD BE PRETTY SEVERE. ESSENTIALLY THE ALLIES
WOULD HAVE TO RETURN TO THE MEDITERRANEAN AND PURSUE THE
GREAT BRITAIN'S ESSENTIALLY LONG-TERM STRATEGY OF
EXPANDING. IT INCLUDES IN GREAT BRITAIN USING THEIR SUPERIOR
AIR AND NAVAL POWER, TOO, TRYING TO STRANGLE GERMANY, BUT
ULTIMATELY LEAVING THE HARD GROUND FIGHTING IN EUROPE FOR
THE RED ARMY. SO YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A WORLD WHERE RUSSIA WAS
ESSENTIALLY ONLY COUNTERBALANCE TO NOT TO GERMANY, WHETHER OR
NOT THEY WOULD HAVE CUT THE SEPARATE PEACE AFTER SEEING THE
ALLIES FAIL SO COMPLETELY, I THINK IS NOT HARD TO IMAGINE
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND WE WOULD BE LIVING IN JUST
AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY WITH PROBABLY STILL THE
BRITISH EMPIRE STILL IS THE PREEMINENT SOME POWER AND THE
WORLD, RUSSIA, MAYBE EVEN NOT IN GERMANY OR SOME VERSION OF
NOT YOUR MONEY. I'M IN PLACE FOR MANY, MANY MORE YEARS, IF
NOT DECADES TO COME. >> CANDY, SO FASCINATING TO
HEAR MICHELLE DESCRIBED THE FIGHT, THE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN
CHURCHILL AND FDR IN CAIRO OVER WHETHER OR NOT DO THIS AND HOW
TO DO IT. GIVEN THAT CHURCHILL HAD SPENT SO MANY YEARS
READING, LITERALLY LOVE LETTER STAFF, DR, TRYING TO COURT TO
BRING HIM INTO THE WAR, GOT THEM TO LEND LEASE. AND THEN
ULTIMATELY PEARL HARBOR GETS THE UNITED STATES INTO THE WAR.
BUT THAT RELATIONSHIP SO CENTRAL TO THE STORY. >> YES, SO CENTRAL TO ANOTHER
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN AMERICAN AND AND A BRITON WAS VERY CENTRAL
IS THAT BETWEEN PACKING AND FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY, WHO
USE? SO THERE IS SOME OF THOSE PICTURES WAS ACTUALLY MY
HUSBAND'S GRANDFATHER. AND I I I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT
RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WHEN EISENHOWER APPOINTED
MONTGOMERY TO BE THE ARCHITECT OF D-DAY, IT DIDN'T MAKE
PACKING VERY HAPPY THAT WONDERING WHETHER THAT 10 THEY
ACTUALLY THEY HATE EACH OTHER. LET'S BE HONEST, WHATEVER YOU
WANT. HE WAS A PAIN IN THE REAR END. HE WAS NOT A GREAT, YOU
KNOW. AND HE WAS OF MOSS NET TYPE GRANDFATHER BEST. BUT WAS
THAT DID THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT THE DIFFICULTIES PEOPLE, ED,
I'M PACKING AND MONTE. MAKE ANY IMPACT ON THE PLANNING FOR THE
DAY? >> WELL, IT CERTAINLY GAVE
EISENHOWER PLENTY OF REASONS TO SMOKE MORE CIGARETTES. HE GOT
UP TO ABOUT 3 PACKED TODAY AS THEY WERE APPROACHING THE DAY.
BUT MONDAY HE DIDN'T USE MONDAY. HE YOU HAVE A KID FOR
DIFFERENT BRITISH GENERAL AND MONTE WAS ESSENTIALLY FORCED ON
HIM. AND IN A MOMENT AGO, I SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
EISENHOWER CONFRONTING THE ORIGINAL DEED, A PLAN WHICH
ESSENTIALLY TOO SMALL AND HE NEEDED TO ESSENTIALLY DOUBLE
THE PLAN. BUT TO DO THAT, HE NEEDED BRITISH FIGHT AND THE
BRITISH WERE IN NO MOOD TO EXPAND OPERATION OVERLORD.
AND AFTER BERNARD MONTGOMERY IS ESSENTIALLY APPOINTED TO LEAD
INITIALLY, JUST THE CANADIAN AND BRITISH FORCES. OUR INVITES HIM TO HIS
HEADQUARTERS RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS AND ESSENTIALLY GIVES
HIM A BIG BEAR HUG AND SAYS BERNARD MONTGOMERY, I WANT YOU
TO LEAD, NOT JUST THE BRITISH COMPONENT OF THIS OPERATION OF
THE AMERICAN ONE AS WELL. NOW MIND YOU DID NOT HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT OFFER, BUT HE DID ANYWAY. AND BERNARD
MONTGOMERY HEARTILY AGREED AND BEING THE ARCHITECT OF
OPERATION OVERLORD. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, EISENHOWER SAID,
AND DO YOU THINK THIS OPERATION IS JUST A BIT TOO SMALL?
CERTAINLY FOR SOMEONE LIKE BERNARD MONTGOMERY AND SIR
BERNARD MONTGOMERY AND ESSENTIALLY DECEMBER JANUARY
1944, BECOMES THE FACE OF THE EXPANDED E THE OPERATION, WHICH
IS ULTIMATELY CRUCIAL TO GETTING THE BRITISH SPY THAT
THEY NEED. AND AGAIN, THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL TOUCH
THAT I THINK WE REALLY UNDERESTIMATE SOMEONE LIKE
DWIGHT EISENHOWER ULTIMATELY ENDS UP BEING CRUCIAL SUCCESS. >> 80 YEARS AGO RIGHT NOW
THINKING ABOUT THOSE YOUNG MEN GETTING READY TO JUMP OUT OF
THOSE PLANES AND GO DO WITH GENERAL EISENHOWER ASKED THEM
TO DO THE 80TH ANNIVERSARY IS TOMORROW. WE'LL HAVE FULL
COVERAGE. THE PRESIDENT'S VISIT AND SPEECH THERE. THE NEW BOOK
TITLED THE LIGHT OF BATTLE EISENHOWER, D-DAY AND THE BIRTH
OF THE AMERICAN SUPERPOWER. MICHELLE PARITY,
CONGRATULATIONS, A FABULOUS BOOK. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
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