>> BRAND NEW REPORTING REVEALS THAT THE PERSON TO REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT IS
FIGHTING ANOTHER COVER UP WITH HIS ROLE AT THE HEART OF ONE OF
THE DARKEST EPISODES IN RECENT AMERICAN HISTORY. THE DEADLY
CAPITOL INSURRECTION TEAM TRUMP NOW TRYING TO WASH AWAY, BUT
IT'S AN INDELIBLE STAIN ON TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY AS HE ASKED
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEND HIM BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE GUARDIAN REPORTING THIS QUOTE, DONALD TRUMP IS EXPECTED
TO LAUNCH A NEW LEGAL BATTLE TO SUPPRESS ANY DAMAGING EVIDENCE
FROM HIS 2020 ELECTION SUBVERSION CASE FROM BECOMING
PUBLIC BEFORE THE 2024 ELECTION PREPARING TO SHUT DOWN THE
POTENCY OF ANY MINI TRIAL ELSE WHERE HIGH-PROFILE OFFICIALS TO
TESTIFY AGAINST HIM. THE SO-CALLED MINI TRIALS ARE THE
RESULT OF THE SUPREME COURT RULING. BUT TRUMP IS IMMUNE
FROM PROSECUTION FOR OFFICIAL ACTS. EVEN IF THOSE OFFICIAL
ACTS WERE DONE IN FURTHER ENDS COUP PLOT. THEY ARE AT THE
BENCH AREA HEARINGS THAT ARE INTENDED TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH
OF SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH'S INDICTMENT OF DONALD TRUMP AND
THE FEDERAL ELECTION CASE REMAINS INTACT AS LEGAL EXPERT
IN OUR EYES EYES AND PUT IT, QUOTE, IT'S GOING TO PUT SOME
OF THE MOST DISTURBING ELEMENTS OF THE ATTEMPTED COUP ON TRIAL,
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR THE COURT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
TO CONSIDER IN THEORY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY INCLUDE
WITNESSES FROM SOUND. VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE, HIS
FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF, MARK MEADOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, NO
SURPRISE THEN THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE DESPERATE TO PREVENT
THESE HEARINGS FROM EVER HAPPENING. ALSO FROM THE
GUARDIAN, QUOTE, IN THE COMING MONTHS, TRUMP'S LAWYERS ARE
EXPECTED TO ARGUE, BUT THE JUDGE CAN DECIDE WHETHER THE
CONDUCT IS IMMUNE BASED ON LEGAL ARGUMENTS ALONE, NEGATING
THE NEED FOR WITNESSES OR MULTIPLE EVIDENCIA AREA
HEARINGS. PROSECUTORS WITH THE SPECIAL COUNSEL JACK SMITH, SMITH'S OFFICE PRESS FOR
WITNESSES SUCH AS FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE ARE WHITE
HOUSE OFFICIALS TO TESTIFY. DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYERS ARE
EXPECTED TO LAUNCH A FLURRY OF EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE AND OTHER
MEASURES TO BLOCK THEIR APPEARANCE SETS. AND AS FOR THE
CENTRAL ISSUE AT THESE HEARINGS, WHAT CONDUCT IS
COVERED UNDER THE SUPREME COURT'S DEFINITION OF
PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY TEAM. TRUMP WILL REPORTED THE
ARGUE IN A FACT THAT A COUP IS OKAY. AS LONG AS THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES DOES IT ONCE AGAIN FROM THE GUARDIAN.
QUOTE, TRUMP'S LAWYERS ARE EXPECTED TO ARGUE THE
MAXIMALIST POSITION THAT THEY CONSIDERED ALL OF THE CHARGED
CONDUCT. WAS DONALD TRUMP ACTING IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY
AS PRESIDENT AND THERE FOR PRESUMPTIVELY IMMUNE AND
INCUMBENT ON PROSECUTORS TO PROVE OTHERWISE. THIS INCREDIBLY CONSEQUENTIAL
LEGAL BATTLE IS EXPECTED TO START NEXT MONTH WHEN JUDGE
TIME TO CHECK AND REGAINS CONTROL OF THE CASE. LET'S
BRING IN THE JOURNALIST BEHIND THE SCOOP, SENIOR POLITICAL
CORRESPONDENT FOR THE GUARDIAN HUGO LULL BYLINE ON THAT
REPORTING. JOHN AND HARRY ARE BACK WITH US TO GO. TELL US
MORE. >> YEAH, LOOK, I THINK TRUMP
WELL KNOWS THAT THE EVIDENCE THAT COULD COME OUT OF THESE
HEARINGS COULD BE POLITICALLY REALLY DAMAGING BUT ALSO
LEGALLY DAMAGING, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE IS THE POLITICAL
ELEMENT BECAUSE THE STOP ABOUT JANUARY 6 AND TRUMP'S EFFORTS
TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION DON'T PLAY WELL WITH VOTERS. WE KNOW
THAT WE SEE THAT IN THE POLLS. BUT THERE'S ALSO A LEGAL
ELEMENT HERE, WHICH IS IF PROSECUTORS CAN PUT UP SOME OF
THE BEST WITNESSES THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF JUDGE CHUCK CAN HAVE
THEM TESTIFY THAT NO, YOU KNOW, TRUMP WAS ACTING IN HIS
CAPACITY AS A CANDIDATE AND NOT THE PRESIDENT. WELL, IT COULD
MAKE PROSECUTORS LIFE EASY IN TERMS OF OVERCOMING THAT
PRESUMPTIVE IMMUNITY. AND SO THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY SOME KIND
OF THAT PLANNING STILL BY THEIR FOUND A WAY TO GET THROUGH THIS
AND THAT RISE. AND THAT IS TO MOST THIS 2 PRONGED ATTACK, ONE
TO SAY THAT WE DON'T NEED HEARINGS AT ALL. AND IF WE DO
NEED HEARINGS, WE CAN DO IT. ONLY ON LEGAL ARGUMENTS WILL BE
DRY, BORING NEW DOCUMENTS AND WILL BE KIND OF HYPOTHETICALS
OF THE LAWYERS RAISING COURT. AND IF JACKSON TWEETED PASSES
FOR WITNESSES, THEN THEY KNOW THEY HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM AND
THEY ARE EXPECTING TO LAUNCH A FLURRY OF EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE
MOTIONS. THEY WANT TO SAY TO THE JUDGE THAT THE RECORD IS A
NEW AND THAT THE PREVIOUS DECISION BEFORE THE GRAND JURY
INVESTIGATION ON THE BINDING AND THAT SHE NEEDS TO LITIGATE
THE PRIVILEGE ISSUES IN YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE
THE CORNERSTONE OF TRUMP'S EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT OF
THE REALLY DAMAGING EVIDENCE GETS BEFORE PUBLIC BEFORE
NOVEMBER. >> HARRY LITMAN, WILL IT WORK? >> YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT. THE
SUPREME COURT OPINION IS NOT ONLY INCREDIBLY BROAD AND IT'S
BASIC ARTICULATION OF THE IMMUNITY PRINCIPAL, NICOLE, BUT
IT ALSO CONTAINS THESE MINES AND SINKHOLES OF OTHER
PRINCIPLES. HERE'S A VERY BIG ONE. YOU MAY NOT HAVE EVIDENCE
OF A OF IMMUNE CONDUCT TO PROVE EVEN YOUR YOUR I'D OFFICIAL AND
NON IMMUNE CASE. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE CLOSE
COLLEAGUES OF OURS ARE ENAMORED OF THIS MINI TRIAL IDEA.
BUT THERE'S A CIRCULAR AREA IN THE COURT OPINION JACKSON S AS
I CALL MIKE PENCE TO THE STAND BECAUSE I WANT TO ESTABLISH
THAT THIS WAS, IN FACT, NOT IMMUNE. AND TRUMP SAYS, WAIT A
SECOND, THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE ANY EVIDENCE. YOU
CONDUCT STOP THE MUSIC, YOU MUST DECIDED FIRST. WHAT DOES
TRUCK CAN DO NOW? AND REMEMBER, THIS IS UNITY, MEANING THERE IS
ALWAYS IN OR LOOK AT TORREY APPEAL. SO I THINK AT A MINIMUM
THERE IS GRIST FOR TRUMP TO TRY TO BLOCK IT AND THEN TAKE
APPEALS FROM IT AND AND TO KEEP WHAT EXACTLY HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT, WHICH IS EVIDENCE, YES, THEY CAN DO IT ON THE THE
ALLEGATIONS. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE COURT TALKED ABOUT IN
THE CASE. BUT CAN THEY ACTUALLY BRING PENCE TO THE STAND OR PAT
CIPOLLONE OR ANYONE OF THAT NATURE? WHEN THE COURT HAS SAID
YOU CAN'T PRESENT EVIDENCE OF IMMUNE CONDUCT TO PROVE THIS
CASE? I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE KIND OF OBSTACLE COURSE THAT
THE COURT HAS SET UP EVEN BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT POINT.
AND IT IS D*** TRICKY. >> YOU KNOW, TIME HOW THE
HOGANS HAD SOMETHING IN THE FIRST BLOCKING THESE SAID, YOU
KNOW, VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT. IF YOU DON'T
LIKE THIS, I MEAN THAT THIS SUPREME COURT HAS GIVEN THE PRO
DEMOCRACY PRO WILL OF LAW COALITION SUCH GRESTE, RIGHT?
BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE LEGAL
THINGS BEING BATTED AROUND AND WEAPONIZED BY TRUMP. BUT IT IS
CLEAR THAT DONALD TRUMP ON LIVE TV HAD HIS SUPPORTERS GO TO THE
CAPITOL, BE COPS WITH STICKS ENDANGERED THE LIFE OF MIKE
PENCE AND HE'S GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT. AND I I FEEL LIKE
FOR 8 YEARS WE'VE COVERED EFFORTS BY THE FEDERAL CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM, MUELLER AND THE SDNY I JACK SMITH AND TRYING TO
CHECK IN THE MAIL IN CANADA. HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND IT'S A
GIANT GETS A NOT A NOTHING 0. NO ONE'S COMING TO SAVE ANYONE
FROM DONALD TRUMP'S CLIMBING EXCEPT THE VOTERS. WHAT IS THIS
IN YOUR VIEW? LOOK LIKE AND SUCCESSFULLY ARGUED AS A
POLITICAL ISSUE? >> WELL, I FIRST WANT TO SAY TO
CALL YOU AND I ARE BOTH. WE BOTH HAD THE EXACTLY THE
SAME AMOUNT OF LEGAL TRAINING, WHICH IS TO SAY NOT. BUT I
THINK I THINK I THINK THAT WE BOTH HAVE HAVE
WONDERED AROUND POLITICS AND THE INTERSECTION OF POLITICS
LONG ENOUGH TO TO A DEUCE ONE IMPORTANT WAY OF
THINKING ABOUT THIS, WHICH IS THAT THE SUPREME COURT'S REALLY
SCREWED US. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW,
THE BOTTOM LINE HERE. IT'S AMAZING THAT HOW ONE DECISION
WITH IT WRITTEN THE WAY THAT HARRY JUST DESCRIBED WITH THE
LAND MINES, THAT'S KIND OF STREWN AROUND THE TRAP DOORS
BEYOND JUST THE HEADLINE OF IT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IN WHICH IS
KIND OF HAVING THIS, THIS KIND OF LET ME JUST ADD A KIND OF
EFFECT ON ALL OF THESE A POTENTIAL PROSECUTIONS AND
EFFORTS. LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY IS REALLY INCREDIBLY
DISPIRITING. AND I THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY DISPIRITING FOR
THOSE OF US WHO SAW IN TWENTY-TWENTY HOW, YOU KNOW,
AFTER 4 YEARS OF BANKING AT THE GUARDRAILS OF AMERICAN
DEMOCRACY AND PLOWING THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE GUARDRAILS AND
SHOWING US ALL HOW ACTUALLY FRAGILE THE SYSTEM OF OF
DEMOCRATIC RULE OF DEMOCRATIC ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THAT IS
AMERICA ACTUALLY WAS WE WE ALL LOOKED UP AND SAID, WELL, MAN,
YOU KNOW, TELL YOU WHAT THE COURT HELD. THANK ALL THE
COURTS HELD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TRUMP, YOU KNOW, WAY, IT WAS
ALL THESE LAWSUITS TRYING TO PROVE THE ELECTION WAS WAS THAT
WAS STOLEN. AND HE GOT KNOCKED DOWN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM,
REPUBLICAN JUDGES, DEMOCRATIC JUDGES, REPUBLICAN STATES,
DEMOCRATIC STATES. YOU KNOW, WE SAID WELL THAT THAT THAT
THAT'S ONE GUARDRAIL THAT STILL THERE, THE JUDICIARY AND AS
MUCH AS ANYTHING WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SUPREME COURT WITH THE
COMMUNITY ROLLING, IT FEELS TO ME LIKE THE LAST GUARDRAIL HAS
NOW BEEN KNOCKED DOWN. AND THAT'S NOT YEAH. THERE ARE
STILL JUDGES WHO WILL UPHOLD THE RULE OF LAW. BUT BUT WHEN
THE SUPREME COURT KNOCKS DOWN THE GUARDRAIL THAT HAS THESE
RIPPLE EFFECTS ACROSS ALL OF THE REST OF JUDICIARY, WHERE
JUDGES WHO WANT TO UPHOLD THE RULE OF LAW NOW HAVE THEIR
HANDS TIED OR DON'T KNOW HOW TO HOW THE SUPREME COURT'S RULING
AFFECTS THEM. AND SO NOW THEY'RE SUDDENLY ON ON CERTAIN
GROUND. I HAVE THE POLITICS OF THIS. I'M NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S A
DECADE CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY. I THINK ON SOME LEVEL,
THOUGH, WATCHING THIS WHOLE THING, IT'S AS DISPIRITING TO
ME IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC EXPERIMENT,
AMERICA, THIS IS DISPIRITING AS WELL AS REALLY ANYTHING THAT'S
HAPPENED OVER THE COURSE OF THESE LAST 6 OR 7 YEARS. >> RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S FOREVER.
I MEAN, THIS SUPREME COURT DECISION IS BINDING UNTIL A NEW
SUPREME COURT DECISION REVERSES THIS DECISION. IT'S DONE.
WE'RE GOING HAVE A CONCERT OF COURT FOR A VERY LONG TIME, THEIR SMOKE. >> THERE'S USUALLY FIRE AND THE
REPEATED DENIALS OF ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN THE RADICAL
MANIFESTO WRITTEN BY THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION TO SEND
AMERICA BACK TO THE 1800'S. >> AND TEAM TRUMP ARE
GENERATING A WHOLE LOT OF SMOKE AFTER THE FIRE. BRAND NEW
REPORTING REVEALS THAT THE VERY SAME PEOPLE BEHIND THAT RADICAL
MANIFESTO PROJECT 2025 ARE ALSO BEHIND TRUMP'S REPUBLICAN PARTY
AND THEIR OFFICIAL PARTY PLATFORM. ABC NEWS REPORTS THIS
QUOTE IN MAY, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THE RNC ANNOUNCED
THEIR PLATFORM COMMITTEE LEADERSHIP TEAM. THE SENIOR
OFFICIALS TASKED WITH DRAFTING THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM AND
THEY NAMED RUSS VOTE AS THE PLATFORM COMMITTEE IS POLICY
DIRECTOR AND ED MARTIN AS DEPUTY POLICY DIRECTOR BOTH
HAVE TIES TO PROJECT 2025. AND AS WE REPORTED ON THIS
PROGRAM YESTERDAY, THE BOAT WAS A FORMER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
STAFFER WHICH BRINGS US TO THE WIDER POINT. IF YOU WANT TO
LOOK AT WHAT TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES PLAN TO DO IN A SECOND
TRUMP TERM, LOOK AT WHAT THEY SOUGHT TO DO IN THE FIRST A KEY
PLANK OF PROJECT 2025. IS A TOTAL TRANSFORMATION OF THE WAY
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS FUNCTIONS SINCE THE VERY
BEGINNING. IT CALLS FOR THE UNDOING OF THE CENTRAL TENANT
OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, ITS INDEPENDENCE FROM POLITICS
PROJECT 2025 CALLS TO, QUOTE, ENSURE THE ASSIGNMENT OF
SUFFICIENT POLITICAL APPOINTEES THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE. THAT MEANS PURGE EXPERIENCED CAREER LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS REPLACE WITH APPOINTEES WHO WILL DO
WHATEVER DONALD TRUMP ASKS EXPERIENCED MERITS ABILITY TO
PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK. NOT THAT WILL HAPPEN NOW.
THAT WILL MATTER. THE ONLY QUALIFICATION FOR SERVING IN
TRUMP'S DOJ LOYALTY AND ACQUIESCENCE TO
TRUMP. AND AS TRUMP HAS REPEATED OVER AND OVER AND OVER
AGAIN, A KEY PRIORITY FOR HIS SECOND TERM WILL BE IN HIS
WORDS, RETRIBUTION AND REVENGE. THAT MEANS MORE PEOPLE. WE'LL
HAVE HARROWING EXPERIENCES LIKE OUR NEXT GUEST. MICHAEL
COHEN HAT MICHAEL COHEN WAS SENT BACK TO PRISON NOTABLY 4
YEARS AGO TODAY. IN A MOVE A JUDGE DEEMED RETALIATORY FOR
REFUSING TO BACK OFF PUBLISHING A BOOK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
THE SERVICE START THE HOUR. THE AFOREMENTIONED MICHAEL
COHEN, HOST OF THE MARICOPA AND POLITICAL BEATDOWN PODCAST,
AUTHOR OF THE BOOKS DISLOYAL AND REVENGE, HOW DONALD TRUMP
WEAPONISE THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AGAINST HIS CRITICS.
MICHAEL COHEN, IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU,
NICOLE. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE SORT OF
SLEEPWALKING INTO THIS FALSE NOTION THAT WHAT TRUMP PROMISES
IN A SECOND TERM IS NEW. IT'S NOT IT'S WHEN HE
SUCCESSFULLY DID IN THE FIRST TERM WHICH IS TO PROSECUTE AND
JAIL PEOPLE WHO THREATENED HIM. PEOPLE. HE DEEMS HIS RIVALS ARE
OPPONENTS. PEOPLE LIKE YOU TELL US WHAT HAPPENED 4 YEARS AGO
TODAY. >> PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO NICOLE
AND THE PRESIDENT WR AND THIS NBC STATION, DONALD HAS BEEN
VERY CLEAR ABOUT HIS ENEMIES LIST AND THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE
ON IT, INCLUDING FOLKS LIKE MARK ZUCKERBERG. WHAT THEY DID
IS THEY LORD ME DOWN TO 500 PEARL STREET AND THEY PROVIDED
ME 90 SIDE. SHOW THIS ON YOUR PROGRAM. A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK
BE PRESENTED MYSELF AND OF FRIEND OF MINE WHO THE LAWYER,
JEFFREY KAYE LEVY Y ESTA JOIN ME BECAUSE SOMETHING JUST SEEM
TERRIBLY MS. AND THEY GAVE US THIS 2 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT IS
FILLED WITH SYNTAX AND GRAMMATICAL AND SPACING ERRORS.
AND THE VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH IS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL VIOLATION
OF MY FIRST AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN THAT IT
PROHIBITED ME FROM SPEAKING TO THE MEDIA, PUBLISHING A BOOK
DOING TELEVISION. ANYTHING INCLUDING FRIENDS AND FAMILY
WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WARNED NOT TO DISCUSS ANYTHING TO DO WITH
ME BECAUSE IT WOULD GLAMORIZE A FEDERAL INMATE WHO WAS ON
CONFINEMENT STATUS. IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE RIDICULOUS. OUR GRAPH
AGAIN, THAT WAS DRAFTED FOR ME. AND HOW DO WE KNOW THIS?
2 PAGE DOCUMENT WAS DRAFTED FOR ME BECAUSE IT DOES NOT CONTAIN
A FEDERAL IDENTIFIABLE NUMBER 2, IT WHERE IS THE REAL ONE?
CLEARLY DOES. WELL, WHEN I REFUSED TO SIGN IT AND ASKED
THAT THEY TAMP DOWN THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE MY BULL
DISLOYAL AT THE TIME WAS ALREADY WITH THE PRINTER. WHAT THEY DID IS INSTEAD THEY
HAD A GUY NAMED PATRICK MCFARLAND WHO IS IN OUR OUR AM
OVER AT A RESIDENTIAL RE-ENTRY MANAGER OVER AT NBC
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY SIGN IT REMAINED ORDER AND THEY HAD ME
TAKEN INTO CUSTODY BY 3 MARSHALS HANDCUFFED AND
SHACKLED ME AND I SAY THIS NOT IN WARD TO GLAMORIZE WHAT
HAPPENED TO ME, BUT REALLY TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, SOMETHING I'VE BEEN YELLING FROM THE ROOFTOPS FROM
EVERY SINGLE PLATFORM THAT I CAN THAT MY BIGGEST FEAR IS
THAT WHAT THEY DID TO ME, THEY WILL DO TO YOU. DONALD
ALREADY HAS A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO AND THAT'S
WEAPONIZING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. WHAT CAN I SING
GOVERNMENT WHICH HE SAID HE WAS ALSO GOING TO DO. EVERY PERSON
THAT WORKS IN GOVERNMENT WILL BE WORKING NOT FOR THE UNITED
STATES GOVERNMENT BUT FOR HIM AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO
SIGN A LOYALTY PLEDGE TO HIM, MEANING THERE WILL BE NO
OPPORTUNITY TO FILE AS I DID TO MY OTHER BOY. AND I KNEW EVERY
ABS. CORPUS PETITION THAT HAD ME RELEASED FROM THE 16 DAY
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT BRINGING IT TO A TOTAL OF 51 DAYS OF
SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. NOBODY WILL HAVE THAT OPTION AGAIN IF
DONALD TRUMP ENDS UP IN THE WHITE HOUSE. >> WHAT IMPACT? I MEAN, YOU
KNOW, THE INSIDE OF HIS BRAIN IN TERMS OF HIS DESIRE TO STAY
JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CRIMINALITY TO STAY OUT OF
JAIL, TO AVOID WHAT CHRIS CHRISTIE IS TO SAY. THE CLINK
OF THE DOOR, THE SUPREME COURT WIPED AWAY THAT CHECK ON HIS
WORST IMPULSES BY GRANTING HIM ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY. WHAT DO YOU
THINK HE'S CAPABLE OF? >> ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING. AND
EVERYTHING YOU ALLOW YOUR MIND TO WANDER INTO THE FAR THIS
LEVEL OF DYSTONIA AND THEN YOU WILL FINALLY GET A SMALL
GLIMPSE INTO JUST HOW FAR THAT HE WILL PUSH THIS. WELL, I WANT
TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. WHAT HE DID TO ME IS ABSURD. IT MAY BE THE VERY
FIRST POLITICAL PRISONER HELD BY MY OWN COUNTRY BY THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA FOR REFUSING TO WAIVE MY FIRST
AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. THE SUPREME COURT DECISION JUST
GAVE HIM IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION ON THIS AND BY
CLAIMING AND YOU'LL HAVE TO DO IT ON AN AD HOC BASIS BY
CLAIMING THAT THIS WAS A PRESIDENTIAL ACT THAT WAS DONE
IN FURTHER AND OF THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT. SEE, THERE IS NO
LIMIT TO WHAT HE AND HIS SICK OF FANS THAT WILL BE THERE IN
1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN AT LEAST
ATTEMPTING TO DO. >> MICHAEL, HE'S TALKED ABOUT A
TELEVISED MILITARY TRIBUNAL FOR LIZ CHENEY. PEOPLE LAUGH IT
OFF. WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEAR THAT? >> I TELL YOU NOT TO LAUGH.
THERE IS NOT. FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT IT.
THERE'S NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT THE MAN WHO WAS SEEKING THE HIGHEST
OFFICE IN OUR LAND WOULD GIVE US AND AGAIN BE THE MOST
POWERFUL PERSON ON THE PLANET. AND HE'S TAUGHT COOKING ABOUT
MILITARY TRIBUNALS. HE'S TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC
EXECUTIONS. HE'S TALKING ABOUT USING SEAL TEAM 6 WITHIN WHICH
TO GO INTO, YOU KNOW, I ROUND UP HIS POLITICAL ENEMIES AND
OPPONENTS AND EACH JAIL INCARCERATE THEM THE WAY THAT
HE WANTS THEM TO DO IT NOW IN THE MORNING TO STOP IN ORDER TO HELP TO STOP THIS
SORT OF MOVEMENT TOMORROW. IN FACT, IN THE MORNING, MY
MORE YEARS ARE GOING TO BE FILING A WRIT OF CERTIORARI TO
THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES IN ORDER TO HEAR THE
CASE, MICHAEL COHEN VERSUS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
BECAUSE IN THAT CASE, THAT'S THE HEAVIEST CORPUS PETITION.
THE JUDGE ALVIN K HOW WAS BEING DEEMED THAT THE ACTIONS OF THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, BILL BARR, DOJ WAS RETALIATING FOR
E. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE TERM ENOUGH AND
I DON'T THINK HE GETS ENOUGH PLACE. CERTAINLY NOT BY THIS
WHITE HOUSE. THAT'S THE BIDEN WHITE HOUSE. IT WAS RETALIATORY
BY AN EVIL AND VINDICTIVE INDIVIDUAL WHO WILL SEEK TO DO
THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS
SUPREME COURT DECISION, HE WILL HAVE UNLIMITED AUTHORITY AND
OUR WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT, HE WILL FEEL THAT HE DOES AND
HE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EVERY SINGLE AVENUE THAT HE POSSIBLY
CAN. AND MY MY STATEMENT THAT I SAY TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING JOE
BIDEN AND HIS FAMILY, INCLUDING HUNTER BIDEN, INCLUDING YOU,
INCLUDING MARK ZUCKERBERG, INCLUDING ELON MUSK, INCLUDING
MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT THEMSELVES, THE WARRANT, THE
VERY WARRANT. >> JOHN, HOW AND I I FEEL LIKE
WE AS THE MEDIA ARE SO SLOW TO ADAPT TO HOW QUICKLY TRUMP MOVES THE
OVERTON WINDOW AND WHAT WAS THE TERRAIN OF EXTRAORDINARY
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM DURING THE FIRST TRUMP TERM, WHICH IS
FIGURING OUT WHEN HE WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET JEFF SESSIONS AND
THEN BILL BARR, MY RESIDENCY TO DO IS NOW IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY PLATFORM, RIGHT POLITICIZING DOJ AND USING IT
FOR POLITICAL PROSECUTIONS AND PERSECUTIONS IS NOW THE RNC
POSITION ON A WEB SITE OUT LOUD AND IT IS PART OF NORMALIZING
IT SO THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS, THERE'S THIS MOMENT WHERE
PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING HAPPEN, RIGHT?
THIS ISN'T NO, NO, NO, THIS IS NEW. THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT HE PLANS TO DO. >> RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, I
THINK IT'S ONE OF THE ONE OF THE LIBERATING. I'M SAYING THIS
IRONICALLY, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE LIBERATING THINGS ABOUT
BECOMING A CONVICTED FELON IS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR
LAWLESS, WHAT YOU'RE OFFICIALLY IN THE ROUND OF THE LAWLESS.
YOU CAN YOU CAN DO YOUR KIND OF FREEDOM, ALL OBLIGATION TO TO
STILL BE LAWFUL, AT LEAST IN YOUR MIND IF YOU'RE DONALD
TRUMP. AND AND, YOU KNOW, NICOLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
FORGOTTEN THAT. >> YOU KNOW, TRUMP WAS WAS SO
NEW, THE THINGS HE WAS WILLING TO DO WORSE NEW WERE SO FOR SO
FAR OUTSIDE THE REALM OF ANY HISTORICAL, IT IS OUR PRESIDENT
IN THE PRESIDENCY THAT IT WAS A HEROIC THING THAT THAT THE
JOURNALISM DID IN THAT PERIOD WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE BECAUSE
ALL OF THAT WAS IN KNOW WHAT HAD REALLY EXPERIENCING
ANYTHING QUITE LIKE THAT BEFORE. AND IN A LOT OF IT WAS
IT WAS A HAPPENING IN THE SHADOWS RIGHT IN 2020 AND THIS
IS NORTH. WE'LL FORGET THERE WAS NO REPUBLICAN PLATFORM IN
TWENTY-TWENTY. MEANTIME, DONALD TRUMP HAD A CONVENTION
WHERE THEY JUST SAID THERE WILL BE NO PLATFORM. WHATEVER TRUMP
SAYS IS THE PARTY PLATFORM. IT WAS THE ULTIMATE, YOU KNOW,
A PARTY SAID WHY, YOU KNOW HE WAS HE WAS HE WAS THE PLATFORM.
AND THAT AGAIN MADE IT DIFFICULT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
THERE WAS SOME EFFORT THERE TO HIDE THE BALL. NOW, THERE IS NO EFFORT TO HIDE
THE BALL. IT'S ALL THERE. IT'S ALL OUT IN FRONT OF US.
AND SO IT BOASTS THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF JOURNALISTS
AND ALL CITIZENS, FRANKLY, TO TO GET THEIR HEADS AROUND
WHAT HE'S PROPOSING. IT MAKES IT ALL THAT MUCH HIGHER, THE
RESPONSIBILITY. BUT IN SOME SENSE, IT MAKES IT EASIER
BECAUSE HE IS REALLY DOING US THE FAVOR. AND I GET I SAY THAT
SOMEWHAT IRONICALLY, BUT NOT TOTALLY. HE'S KNOWN AS THE
FAVORITE BASICALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO CALL ME A CRIMINAL,
FINE, YOU KNOW, HOLD MY BEER. HERE'S THE HERE'S THE NEW STUFF
I'M GOING TO DO. THAT IS HOW FAR I'M GOING TO GO. NOW THAT
I'M KIND OF THE JESSE JAMES OF A REPUBLICAN OR NATIONAL
POLITICS WITH IT, WE CAN SEE IT. THE ONLY QUESTION IS
WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. >> WELL, AND AND, YOU KNOW,
JUST A SEMI OR WRITES HARRY LITMAN IN HER DISSENT THAT I
THINK IT'S IT'S JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON THAT WARNS OF THE
WHITE HOUSE BECOMING THAT SEAT OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT, THE SUPREME COURT GREENLAND
THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE USHERED IN. I MEAN, THEY DON'T
THEY DON'T LIVE ON AND ON AND ARE MEDICALLY SEALED ISLAND
WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE ACTORS ARE. THE CASE WAS DONALD
TRUMP VERSUS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE
BE PREPARED FOR? >> SO THEY HAVE GREEN LIT IT
AND TRUMP DIDN'T EVEN NEED GREEN LIGHTS BEFORE YOU WENT
THROUGH AMBER AND RED ONES. JOHNS IS THE STARTING POINT.
THERE. HE IS NOW TRYING TO DISTANCE HIMSELF. IS TRUMP FROM
THE 972 PAGE PLAN AND WHO KNOWS? I DOUBT HE'S AND READY
EVEN TO PAGE 2. BUT THE BIG POINT OF IT, MAINLY THE
COMPLETE AN ARMY IS LAST TIME ANYONE WHO'S EVER CROSSED HIM.
AND SECOND, THE ABSOLUTE GUIDING OF THE CIVIL SERVANTS
STARTING WITH THE O J IS JUST A MANIFEST INJURE FOR WHAT
MICHAEL COHEN SAID, BUT BUT A WHOLE LONG LAUNDRY LIST, AND
THAT IS NOT EVEN SLIGHTLY HIT IN. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. AND I
KNOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS MORE, BUT THE COURT HAS REALLY
GREENLEE THEIR LEAST INSULATED. AND WE ARE AND SOME KIND OF
SERIOUS SITUATION HERE GOING INTO NOVEMBER. >> RIGHT WHERE THE VOTERS ARE
TRULY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN STOP IT IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT,
