COORDINATION WITH AMERICA'S NATO ALLIES. JOINING US NOW SPEAKER EMERITA, DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN NANCY PELOSI OF CALIFORNIA, AND THE LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION OF BELARUS SVETLANA SKENESKYA. LUKASCHENKO DECLARED VICTORY AND THAT WIDESPREAD REPORTS OF BEING RIGGED IN HIS FAVOR, SOUND FAMILIAR? SVETLANA AND PELOSI ARE THE KEE AUTHORS OF "NATO IS A BULWARK OF TYRANNY." THANK YOU BET FOR JOINING US. SPEAKER PELOSI, I WANT TO START WITH YOU ON PRESIDENT BIDEN FIRST BECAUSE OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS BEHIND THE SOOENTS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEPRESSION AMONG DEMOCRATS. THE PHONE LINES BURNING UP, CONCERN ABOUT HIS CANDIDACY AROUND WHETHER OR NOT HE CAN WIN AND SOME EVEN OUT LOUD ARE EVEN SHAKY AT BEST ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN, WHETHER OR NOT HE SHOULD STEP OUT OF THE RACE. THE HEADLINES, THE POLLING, IS ALL FEELS VERY DARK. HOW DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IN LIGHT OF HIS POOR DEBATE PERFORMANCE? CAN HE DO MORE, AND WHAT DO YOU SAY TO DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS AND EVEN MEMBERS OF THE SENATE WHO ARE BEGINNING TO WAIVER IN THEIR SUPPORT? >> GOOD MORNING, MIKA. THAT'S ONE VERSION OF THE STORY. WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT YESTERDAY I WAS HONORED TO BE PRESENT AT THE PRESIDENT'S SPEECH FOR -- AT NATO. HE WAS ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR. HE WAS RECEIVED OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH OVATIONS FOR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY AND THE FORCE WITH WHICH HE SAID IT, AND THEN HE GAVE THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL OF FREEDOM TO JENS STOLTENBERG, THE SECRETARY-GENERAL OF NATO AS ONE WHO HAS RECEIVED IT JENS GETTING IT BROUGHT LUSTER TO THAT HONOR. IT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY RECEIVED ENERGETIC PRESENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT. POLITICS IS POLITICS. PEOPLE HAVE THEIR INTERESTS IN TERMS OF THEIR OWN REGION AND THE REST SO WE'RE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, A PARTY THAT IS, SHALL WE SAY, NOT LOCK STEP BUT THIS PRESIDENT HAS BEEN A GREAT PRESIDENT, AND I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND AS A PERSON WHO ORCHESTRATED MANY OF THE PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT THE PRESIDENT TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN, AND HE SHOULD, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE AT THE TABLE CHAPTER AND VERSE VERY CONVERSANT WITH A VISION, A PURPOSE, WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE ISSUES, WITH VALUES UNDERLINING IT ALL, AND, AGAIN, ALWAYS ASKING THE QUESTION WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO WORKING FAMILIES IN OUR COUNTRY? SO ANY THOUGHT THAT HE WASN'T ABLE TO DELIVER ON ALL OF THOSE IS I CAN JUST SAY DIDN'T HAPPEN. >> MADAM SPEAKER, YOU JUST WENT THROUGH THE PRESIDENT'S RECORD, BUT LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE CURRENT MOMENT. DOES HE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT TO BE THE HEAD OF THE DEMOCRAT TICKET? >> AS LONG -- IT'S UP TO THE PRESIDENT TO DECIDE IF HE IS GOING TO RUN. WE'RE ALL ENCOURAGING HIM TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE TIME IS RUNNING SHORT. I THINK THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT OF THE CAUCUS, IT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY, I'M NOT THE HEAD OF THE CAUCUS ANYMORE, BUT HE'S BELOVED. HE IS RESPECTED, AND PEOPLE WANT HIM TO MAKE THAT DECISION. NOT ME. >> HE HAS SAID HE HAS MADE THE DECISION. HE HAS SAID FIRMLY THIS WEEK HE IS GOING TO RUN. DO YOU WANT HIM TO RUN? >> I WANT HIM TO DO WHATEVER HE DECIDES TO DO, AND THAT'S -- THAT'S THE WAY IT IS. WHATEVER HE DECIDES, WE GO WITH. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I WOULD HOPE EVERYONE WOULD JOIN IN, TO LET HIM DEAL WITH THIS NATO CONFERENCE. THAT IS VERY BIG DEAL. OVER 30 HEADS OF STATE ARE HERE. HE IS THE HOST OF IT, AND THAT MEANS NOT JUST HOSTING IT. IT MEANS ORCHESTRATING THE DISCUSSION AND SETTING THE AGENDA, AND HE'S DOING SO MAGNIFICENTLY, AND I SAID TO EVERYONE LET'S JUST HOLD OFF. WHATEVER YOUR THINKING, EITHER TELL SOMEBODY PRIVATELY, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT ON THE TABLE UNTIL WE SEE HOW WE GO THIS WEEK. BUT I'M VERY PROUD OF THE PRESIDENT, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE HERE WITH SFEST LANA. >> AND I'VE BEEN ON THIS SHOW A NUMBER OF TIMES AND IT'S SUCH AN HONOR TO BE WITH HER A CHAMPION OF DEMOCRACY, A COURAGEOUS LEADER IN A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM SVETLANA. >> LET'S TURN TO YOU NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. TELL US. WHAT DID YOU HEAR AT THE NATO SUMMIT? WHAT'S YOUR OVERALL MESSAGE? >> WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR NATO COUNTRIES NOW IS PEOPLE WHO ARE FIGHTING AGAINST DICTATORSHIP AND AGAINST ATROCITIES IN OUR COUNTRY AND IMPERIALISM THREATS FROM RUSSIA. THE TASK OF DICTATORS IS TO DEPLETE THE DEMOCRATIC WORLD AND TO DIVIDE, YOU KNOW, NOT PURR -- PURSUE THEM AND NOT TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO THOSE NATIONS WHO ARE FIGHTING TO DICTATORSHIP SO WE NEED UNITY AND DECISIVENESS BECAUSE VERY OFTEN I SEE UNDECISIVENESS PERCEPTED BY DICTATORS AS WEAKNESS AND THEY CROSS RED LINE AFTER RED LINE LIKE THINKING WHEN WILL BE THE ANSWER FROM THE POWERFUL DEMOCRATIC WORLD, AND WE NEED LEADERSHIP OF THE USA. WE NEED COUNTRIESES, NATIONS WHO ARE FIGHTING. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STRENGTH TO FIGHT AGAINST DICTATOR AND WE NEED LEADERS. >> OWE ON THAT POINT, MAD HAM SPEAKER, ON AMERICAN LEADERSHIP, THERE'S REAL CONCERN AMONG SOME OF THE HEADS OF STATE HERE AND MILITARY LEADERS ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO NATO IF DONALD TRUMP WERE TO BE ELECTED AGAIN. WHAT IS YOUR LEVEL OF ANXIETY ABOUT THAT? >> WELL, I THINK THERE'S REASON TO BE CONCERNED FOR CERTAINLIOR SEVERAL REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT, SAD TO SAY, WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT, HE SAID -- HE CAST DOUBT AS TO WHETHER HE WOULD HONOR OUR MUTUAL DEFENSE COMMITMENT THAT IS IN NATO, AND NOW -- AND THEN YOU'VE HEARD HIM SAY IF PEOPLE HAVEN'T -- IF COUNTRIES HAVEN'T PAID THEIR 2%, THEN PUTIN CAN HAVE AT THEM. I MEAN, THIS IS INSANE. I THINK WE SHOULD BE SPENDING A LOT MORE TIME PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THIS PROSPECT IS FOR OUR OWN NATIONAL SECURITY. JOE BIDEN HAS EXPANDED -- BEEN A PART OF EXPANDING NATO, STRENGTHENING NATO IN A REALLY REMARKABLE WAY IN, A WAY THAT -- THAT COMMANDS RESPECT FOR OUR COUNTRY TO BEING RESPECTFUL OF OTHER VIEWS AND TIMING, AND SO IT'S -- THE DIFFERENCE -- WELL, THE CONTRAST IS SO GREAT, BUT IN TERMS OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY WHICH IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, THAT MEANS GLOBALLY AND LOCALLY IN EVERY WAY, DONALD TRUMP IS A DANGER TO OUR COUNTRY, AND PEOPLE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT, AND WHEN HE GOES OFF AND COZIES UP TO PUTIN, HIS BUDDY FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LEFT THAT TABLE WITH THAT POINT TO HIM, I WAS SAYING WITH YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, ALL ROADS THREE-DAY PUTIN AND IT STILL IS TRUE. WHAT'S THE CONNECTION? I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S DANGEROUS. IT IS A DANGEROUS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND GLOBAL SECURITY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SVETLANA ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, DONALD TRUMP HAS SAID HE WANTS TO LEAD LIKE A DICTATOR OR BE A DICTATOR OR WHATEVER. HE HAS COZIED UP TO SPEAKER EMERITA ARE AND EVEN IN CONTACT WITH HIM NOW IS WHAT HE'S BRAGGING ABOUT. HE HAS PROMISED RETRIBUTION TO PEOPLE WHO HE FEELS HAS CROSSED HIM. SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHAT'S THE WARNING THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF A PRESIDENCY LIKE THAT AND ALSO DO YOU FEAR AMERICA'S STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO NATO AND FREEDOM WILL WAIVER IF TRUMP IS ELECTED? >> SO, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO APPEAL TO AMERICANS THAT IT'S SUCH A HUGE LUXURY TO BE ABLE TO HONESTLY CHOOSE YOUR FUTURE PRESIDENT BECAUSE TODAY 30 YEARS WHEN LUKASCHENKO IS GOVERNING BELARUS. 30 YEARS WE DON'T HAVE SUCH FEELING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTRY, SO YOU HAVE TO CHERISH THIS, BUT, OF COURSE, NOW IS SUCH A HUGE TURBULENCE IN THE WORLD, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK TWICE BEFORE CHOOSING YOUR FUTURE LEADER BECAUSE THE WORLD HAS TO BE BASED ON THE VALUES THAT YOUR COUNTRY IS BASED ON. IT'S THE RULE OF LAW. IT'S DEMOCRACY. IT'S JUSTICE. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LIKE IN OUR COUNTRIES, AND WE NEED DEMOCRATIC LEADERS. WE NEED DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES THAT BASED ON THIS PRINCIPLE, NOT BUSINESS AROUND POLICY BUT VALUES AROUND POLICY AND WE ACCEPT NATO AS MILITARY ALLIANCE BUT ALSO POLITICAL ALLIANCE AND WE, OF COURSE, NEED TO PROMOTE THIS ALLIANCE TO BELARUSSIANS FOR WHOM -- FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IT WAS DECLARED THAT NATO'S THREAT TO OUR COUNTRIES, AND WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO BELARUSSIANS THAT IT'S AN ALLIANCE OF THE DEMOCRATIC WORLD, OF DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY WHOSE MAIN AIM IS PEACE AND SECURITY IN THE WHOLE WORLD. >> MIKA, IF I MAY. KNOWING OF YOUR COMMITMENT TO RECOGNIZING THE ROLE OF WOMEN, COURAGEOUS WOMEN IN THE WORLD, WHEN SVETLANA RAN FOR PRESIDENT IN BELARUS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE IN THE STREET, LARGELY WOMEN IN THE STREET SUPPORTING HER CANDIDACY. NOW SHE, OF COURSE, IS UNDER ARREST BY THE LUKASCHENKO GOVERNMENT, AND TODAY WE FUND OUT THAT YULIA, THE WIFE OF ALEXEI NAVALNY IS UNDER ARREST BY THE RUSSIANS AND PERHAPS YOU'LL SPEAK TO THAT, NOT BEING UNUSUAL IN YOUR SITUATION. I'LL SAY THIS. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE MUNICH SECURITY CONFERENCE, AND WHEN SVETLANA COMES, THE RESPONSE TO HER, THE INITIATION OF PRAISE FOR HER IS SO GREAT, SHE IS A GLOBAL CELEBRITY IN TERMS OF DEMOCRACY AND WOMEN AND LEADERSHIP AND VERY COURAGEOUS IN TERMS OF THE DANGEROUS NATURE OF LUKASCHENKO. >> YEAH. DICTATORS ARE LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER VERY FAST. I WAS SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS OF JAIL IN ABSENTIA. NOW YULIA NAVALNY AND DICTATORS NEED TO BE STOPPED. THEY CANNOT BE AT PEACE. THEY CANNOT BE RE-EDUCATED. THEY CAN ONLY BE FOUGHT. WE NEED STRONG LEADERS TO FIGHT DICTATORS. >> PUTIN HAS BEEN TERRIBLE TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN, RAEPG OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN, USING RAPE TO DENORTHERLYIZE PEOPLE IN TERMS OF THE WAR EFFORT AND -- AND PUTIN IS A WAR CRIMINAL IN THAT REGARD, AND IT ALL GOES BACK TO HIM. THE RUSSIAN TROOPS THEY TURNED INTO ANIMALS. LOOK WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO WOMEN. PEOPLE SAY TO ME, MAKE NO MISTAKE. RUSSIAN SOLDIERS DO WHAT THEY ARE ORDERED TO DO. ORDERED TO DO, SO THIS IS -- THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN ALL OF THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. WOMEN IN SECURITY, AND AS I SAY SVETLANA IS A GLOBAL HEROINE IN THAT REGARD. HERO. >> SPEAKER EMERITA NANCY PELOSI AND LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION OF BELARUS, AND I -- AND I WANT TO THING YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADER AND FOR SPEAKING OUT, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU ARE IN AND GIVING A WARNING OF WHAT
