Walter Veith & Martin Smith - Babylon And The Doctrine Of The Serpent - What's Up Prof? 17

[Music] welcome back to our next episode of what's up prof hello Walter hi I was thinking how are you coping with all the opposition that we have been getting in the last three months well yes we do have opposition but you know I had a very encouraging talk to someone who is a pilot and he told me that when the wind is from the front then the aeroplane gets more left and we want to go to a higher plane so lift is a good thing I mean yes so I also see that we've got some new decorations on the table now they're actually all decoration if they were in the back here so there's been a swap this is a beautiful ammonite I don't know whether you can see it I don't know how it should lift it up whom I should lift it up but it's a gorgeous fossil and it's not millions of years old because mineralization like this can take place within a very short period of time and there are many many cases of that so this very young fossil which is supposedly millions of years old is a nice example of what we've been speaking about a young young then there's another question that I would quickly want us to handle before we go into today's like discussion and that is also on the edge and there the earth and so on just quick the oilfields some people say that that also cannot happen in a quick oh absolutely there are cases of rapid oil formation now what is oil it's organic material so it's microorganisms and dead organic material that has been covered in the flood and then turned into oil and basically it is material of living organisms that have decayed to become oil and it can happen very very rapidly for example coal formation is very similar you know that you can make oil from coal and if you take the the ancient fence posts that they erected in let's say United States of America or other places some of these posts have actually turned to call in the bottom and that's not millions of years now we're talking since colonization so that is very rapid yes yeah thank you and then just 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difference between the religion of Babylon and the religion of the Bible and we need heavenly wisdom to understand all its ramifications and so we ask for the presence of your spirit in Jesus name Amen so what are we going to talk about today well today we're going to talk about Babylon and we're going to talk about the loud cry message which is the call of the the fourth angel of Revelation 18 we did discuss you know all the events that are taking place and we have very interesting things happening at the moment with world monetary fund and all of the reset that they want to have in place with the economies and the social relationships of humanity and the nations and you have this tremendous globalization push on the one hand and then the contrast of the nationalistic push from the Trump team on the other hand and you have this interesting achillion dialectic going on but we will do that another time I was very interested to see what he actually said at his thoughts of speech recently and they it was very obviously a clash between globalism and nationalism and what Prince Charles had to say on the other side of the spectrum but that is a discussion for something else but why are we going to talk about Babylon because you know the Bible is so clear that we have to flee from Babylon just before Christ is coming and if we have to flee from Babylon why must we flee from Babylon and the question of course is paramount who is Babylon and so we need to have a look at the issues as to why an organization can be part of Babylon in the times that we are living in so if we can go to some of the slides that we've prepared you can see the title is Babylon and the doctrine of the serpent now what is the doctrine of the serpent the doctrine of the serpent is made clear in the very first chapters of Genesis and injects chapter three verse one of the book of Genesis we have the serpent saying and he said unto the woman yay has God said in other words he's saying did God really say that are you sure God say that I'm sure he didn't mean that it must have meant something else right and then he negates what God said and he presents a counter theology and that's the doctrine of the serpent and if we analyze those issues then we know what the theology of Babylon is all about and why it should be avoided so it's very important that we we look into those issues especially in the time the way we are living with this loud cry we'll go to the world very shortly so did God really say is a very important part of of the Bible Genesis chapter 3 let's look at that verse and a little bit more detailed now the serpent was more subtle that's a very important word right yeah very descriptive word is subtle can it be linked to - also - sneaky sneaky absolutely yes subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made and he said unto the woman yea hath God said ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden they were to eat of this one particular tree there was so much food there and if we got a little bit back and see what the diet of man was then we can ask the question did God really say that all the creatures I'd + in Genesis 1 verse 29 God said old I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed to you it shall be for meat in other words for food so the original diet as we have seen is every herb bearing seed so those are all the seed plants all the grains all the seeds every tree with fruit on it that's all the fruit trees and the nut trees and all of these and that was the original food of man and the ritual food and diet of the of the beasts of the earth and all the fowls of the air and everything that creeps upon the earth wherein there is life I have given every green herb for me for food and it was so so everything on the planet was vegetarian now we've discussed some of these issues before we don't have to go into it but the question I'm asking is in today's context do people really believe that everything was vegetarian yeah or do they think evolutionary and think that animals evolved and obviously a carnivore in evolutionary thinking has an advantage over a herbivore because he has to develop strategies to catch animals etc etc so that eventually led to higher and higher it intelligence the other question did God really say that there was only one way by which atonement could be secured in other words was there only one way of salvation because we have so many religions in the world they all have different modes of salvation so did God really say that there was only one way in Genesis chapter 4 verse 4 we read and Abel he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof and the Lord had respect unto Abel and unto his offering but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect and Cain was very wroth and his countenance fell so when that Abel brought was acceptable God had respect unto Abel offering because he followed the guidelines he had to bring a lamb and if we go back into the Bible and we come to a future event which on the Baptist says behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world it was of course a type this firstling of the flock of Jesus Christ and that is the way so to salvation there is no other name under heaven whereby we may be saved except the name Christ Jesus that is a biblical criterion but Cain said no I will bring the works of my hands I will not follow this atonement path so it seems that from the very beginning there is conflict about the way in which we are saved and the Bible is very clear right from the book of Genesis all the way through to the book of Revelation that it is the Lamb of God that brings salvation to the earth and there is no other way in which you can be saved there's no other name under heaven whereby you may be saved so Cain's offering was not acceptable but what was Cain's attitude when he's offering his own works when they were not accepted he was very wroth and his countenance fell so obviously there is conflict even until today in terms of how are we saved this is important and the way of Cain eventually led to the way of Babylon so the the mode dis operandi of Babylon in terms of the plan of salvation is salvation by your own works and the plan of the Bible is salvation by the Lamb of God not a question that arises is did God really say that they would be a day of judgment for the antediluvian world so obviously there is a test right and man is judged according to his activities so this choice is not just a hab has a choice did you give a sermon on little things yes and did God really say that you should not eat of the fruit of the street you said that was a little thing but look at the big consequences that it had so even though God is long-suffering eventually there's a judgement so in Genesis chapter 6 verse 3 we read and the Lord said my spirit shall not always strive with man for that he also is flesh yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years so now I preached for a hundred and twenty years now it's interesting that this this number 120 occurs quite regularly in the Bible and one wonders whether it has any additional meaning in Genesis chapter 6 verse 7 it says and the Lord said I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth both man and beast and the creeping things and the fowls of the air for it repenteth me that I have made them so there was going to be a judgment and then the judgment came God said unto Noah in verse 13 the end of all flesh is come before me for the earth is filled with violence that's a very important point through them and behold I will destroy them with the earth Magne an ark of gopher wood rooms shalt thou make in the Ark and shalt pitch it within and without with pizza there is a way of escape and this was the Ark and if you were in the ark then you had followed the way of escape yes how many people were nog eight eight now you know it's interesting when you go into biblical numerology then eight the number eight is often associated with with Jesus because if you want to look at it he was resurrected on the first day which is actually the eighth day in the cycle there are many many places there are many many books on numerology you can study it I don't go into it in great detail but the number eight is associated with Jesus and the number six is associated with the archenemy of Jesus writings so maybe the number eight just a speculation is those that are in Christ for the endtime if we apply it so not just eight people at the end but those that are in Christ just just the thought so you know this idea of 120 years is also fascinating so now I preached for 120 years and after the 120 years there was a judgment this and those that were violent were destroyed in the flood and only those that were safe in the ark were saved now it's interesting that Moses was also 120 years old when the children went into Canaan and the Canaanites were dispossessed and Moses died and was resurrected because he went to heaven because he appeared to Jesus and the disciples on the Mount of Transfiguration so there was a special resurrection and we read about it in the book of Jude where there was this conflict with the devil of the body of Moses so here again in Moses case it was 120 years and then yeah 120 occurs many times in the Bible the 40 40 days and the 40 day cycles and the 40 year cycles and all of these they always or tended to come in threes so 40 40 40 is also a hundred and twenty now some of the Adventist pioneers had the idea that this might be a reference also to the end of time because if they calculated that if you take 120 Jubilees you get to 6000 years just Himes for example had calculations like that but we we won't go into those details now but just interesting that there are these interesting correlations but the point we are making here is was there a time of judgment for the antediluvian world yes does the world today believe that there was a universal flood mostly no no in fact science says there was no universal flood but it's nice fossil here on this table tells us that there was a universal flood because the fossil world is buried in watery graves in fact fossilization needs very special circumstances and they need water for the exchange of the minerals to take place so this is not the original ammonite this fossil this is a mineralized copy of it and in other words but it doesn't take millions of years for these things to happen and then you have of course also these chalk layers which are foraminifera unicellular organisms and radio illyrians which are also deposited out of water so the whole world must have been covered in water because this is a universal layer so there was a universal flood and God destroyed humanity in the past and only those that were in the ark was saved now these serve as a type for the end of time so my next question would be did God really say that this judgment was a type of the final judgment and if we go there to 2nd Peter chapter 2 verse 5 he says and he spared not the old world but saved Noah the eighth person a preacher of righteousness bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow making them an in-sample unto those that after should live ungodly see this is quite a mouthful so you have two topologies here you have the destruction of the antediluvian world in the days of Noah which serve as a type of the final judgment and now it was a preacher of righteousness the righteousness of Christ is going to be a central part of the final message how are you saved you saved by the righteousness of Christ right great no works what was the way of Cain works works and Babylonian religion what was that also it was works so this was the unique religion where you were not saved by your merits but you were saved by an alien merit as Martin Luther put it a merit which was not part of you but which came from a higher source Jesus Christ and these two religious systems have been in conflict since canon a since Cain and Abel now the fascinating thing is that even those that were in the truth and believe that the lamb was the way even they of a time tended to revert back to the Babylonian system so you might have the truth for a while and then the sad apostasy comes into the people of God and eventually they decay and become part of Babylon again so there's this constant constant cycle and every time that they move away God sends a prophet things and it brings them back and then they fall away and then God sends a prophet then he brings them back and it's just a constant ebb and flow are we gonna have the same at the end and then he gives the striking example of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah that were destroyed by fire and brimstone and this serves as a type again for those that should live ungodly at the end of time so in other words there was a flood and there was a judgment he is the evidence this creature is extinct the ceremony there were many many creatures that lived before the flood that don't exist anymore in fact this is one of the arguments that negates the evolutionary theory because if evolution was right you would have to start with a very low density of animals and you would have to get more and more and more variety as you continue but in fact we have a reverse we have a large number of creatures and the past and we're getting fewer and fewer as we go along so we have a reversal there which shows that there must have been a massive creation with huge variety of animals many of them being extinct so the fossils are not an evidence of evolution but of a much greater diversity in times past there's another point the the size is reversed if evolution is correct then you should evolve from small to large so obvious thing you don't start evolution with an elephant and end with an amoeba you start with the amoeba and end up with an elephant at the end right but everything was bigger and greater in the past and more degenerate today and smaller so yes there was a destruction in the past and God really said there would be a judgment and we drive our vehicles with the evidence of that judgment whereas all this organic matter come from that is hidden in the bowels of the earth its organic matter it must have been live live at some stage so when they went into the ark then God promised them that he would no longer destroy the world with a flood the final destruction will be with fire right Genesis 9:15 did they believe God when he said and I will remember my covenant which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh they might still be local flooding but there won't be a universal flood Genesis 11 verse 4 said and they said these are the Babylonians remember we're working towards the Babylonian mindset and thinking go let us build us a city and a tower whose top may reach unto heaven and let us make us a name lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth they actually built the tower to come a future flood so they did not believe God the point that I'm trying to make is that humanity has this tendency not to believe what God really said yes and if you don't believe what God really said then what do you actually believe it's a very important point so that God really sent Moses to deliver the people when they were in Egypt well in Exodus 2 verse 14 we read and he said this is now the Israelite there was being assisted and helped by Moses who made thee a prince and a judge over us intend us thou to kill me as thou callest the Egyptian and Moses feared and said surely this thing is known they didn't realize that Moses was going to be a prince and a judge over them and he serves as a type of a greater Prince and a greater judge who they also rejected which is Jesus varieties so what I'm pointing out here is do people really believe when God sends someone to be the Prince and the judge the answer is no how much unbelief is there in the world did God really require a change of lifestyle when he brought the children of Israel out of Egypt numbers 11:6 says but now our soul is dried away there's nothing at all beside this mana before our eyes we've dealt with this I'm not gonna go into details God's answer and they went for the wind from the Lord and brought quails from the sea and let them fall by the camp as it were day's journey on this side and as it were a day's journey on the other side around about the camp and as it were two cubits high upon the face of the earth and the people stood up all that day and all that night and all that next day and they gathered the quails he that gathered at least gathered 10 homers and they spread them all abroad for themselves around about the camp and we've discussed it before but God was not pleased with them Psalms tells us they lusted exceedingly in the wilderness and tempted God in the desert my point is that whatever God does human nature rebelled against it even though it is for your own good right so he gave them the request verse 15 but he sent this leanness this emptiness into the soul and then again in Corinthians we read now these things were our examples to the intent we should not lust off the evil things as they also lost so all of these things in the Old Testament served as a type for God's people and every time if God said something you can ask the question that you're being asked about time they were asking did God really say I don't think he meant it do I really have to do this do I really have to believe this now God is not going to do this right so did God really say that his people should separate themselves from the world this was a very complicated one very hard for people let's go to the Old Testament because we're looking at type and antitype right now the Lord had said unto Abram get thee out of thy country and from thy kindred and from thy father's house unto a land that I will show thee out of your country away from your family even away from your father's house come out now that's a very important call there were two calls to Abram the one was in an earl and the other one was in Harlan and if we go to the New Testament there are two calls in the book of Revelation about Babylon nice Revelation chapter 14 you have Babylon is fallen yes and then Revelation chapter 18 you have Babylon is fallen God come on so it's a very similar thing so type and anti-type have to meet each other so Jesus himself reiterates this and says in Matthew nineteen twenty nine and everyone that has forsaken houses or brethren or sisters is your family or father or mother or wife or children or lands for my name's sake shall receive a hundredfold and shall inherit everlasting life this is not an instruction to avoid your family and to sell everything now and no definitely not this is an instruction to separate yourself because we're living in the anti-type to separate yourself from that which is against God you have to come out of that mindset and anything that's clinging you to the world yes get rid of that now you must stand in your way with your relationship in other words not your father no your mother no your wife no your children or anything that your own should keep you from following the truth you must love then but your love for God is the mine absolutely absolutely so did God really say that his people should separate themselves from literal Babylon so we're going back to ancient times and then we'll come to the modern times right because this this type and typology and anti-type is is fascinating in the Bible as ayah 48 verse 20 now this is quite a while before the Babylonian takeover he said go ye forth of Babylon flee from the Chaldeans with a voice of singing declare heat elders after it even to the ends of the earth say ye the Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob Babylon is an obstacle to those who want to be part of God's plan yes it's an obstacle so it has to do with salvation because it's Redemption here right so you have to flee from the Babylonian mindset here was a literal fleeing from the Babylonian don't become involved with Babylonian thinking and then Jeremiah in the time when Babylon actually conquered Jerusalem he says flee get the far off 12 deep oh ye inhabitants of Hazor says the Lord for Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon has taken counsel against you and has conceived a purpose against you so this mighty king of Babylon the one who was the one who took the Israelites captive he has a couple of attributes he took counsel against God's people and he has conceived the purpose against you so he doesn't leave you alone that's coming for you he's gonna come for you what is his purpose in coming for you to take you he wants to conquer you he wants to take you captive he wants you to be seven is so he has a problem with anyone who doesn't worship according to his style did he enforce his way of worship yes what happened to Daniel's friends did they have to bow down yes and did I refuse yes I refused correct so Jeremiah 51 verse 6 says flee out of the midst of Babylon and deliver every man his soul be not cut off in her iniquity for this is the time of the Lord's vengeance he will render unto her a recompense so Babylon will be judged and if you are part of Babylon you will be judged together with Babylon so when literal Babylon is destroyed that serves as a type for anti-typical Babylon and if you are part of anti-typical Babylon you will be destroyed together with it so you have to come out of you have literally you have to come out and of Babylon literally and mentally yes absolutely so now let's go and ask ourselves this question then if that was the type was the antitype did God really say that his people should separate themselves from anti-typical Babylon now we're coming to our dailies let's read the verses revelation 18 this is the loud cry and after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven having great power and the earth was lightened with his glory this is a message that has to go out universally it's not a conspiracy it's a message from God and he cried mightily with a strong voice saying Babylon the Great is fallen is fallen now how many times does he say it there twice he says it twice and he's become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird when literal Babylon fell there was a writing on the wall and it said many many they were also twice because there was of course the two kings ruling it was belson it was his father and his father taking care of the spiritual side and he had taken care of the political side so it was a union of church and state so there were two aspects to literal Babylon the Church of the state and they work together and here again you have the two aspects Babylon is fallen is fallen there's a spiritual aspect and there is a political aspect and it has become a habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit there's a false holy spirit in this system and a cage what is a cage something that keeps you captive royce of every unclean and hateful bird so here are false spirits because the true spirit of god is depicted as a dove so an unclean bird every fowl unclean hateful bird is a false spirit so this is demons but then you have these sad words that all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication so they all drank babylonian wine what is wine stand for doctrine doctrine so they've swallowed babylonian doctrine and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with us so here you have the two aspects you have the wine of Babylon which is false doctrine this is the ecclesiastical side and then you have the political side which is the kings of world so you have for two yes they're always part and parcel of Babylon but there's another one mentioned over here and that's the merchants of the earth now if you go back to the Old Testament there were also the merchants the king of tyre who also served as a type merchants was very important there and the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies so these money in Babylon yes she controls the economy and I had another voice from heaven saying and the others words again come out of her my people that you be not partakers of her sins and that you receive not of her plagues for a sins have reached unto heaven and God has remembered her iniquities iniquities there are against God's law and a God's against God's Word so at the end of time we have a system which is called anti-typical babylon it consists of a union of church and state it has false doctrine it controls the economy and you have to separate yourself from them that's very hard because there's an economic implication there's a religious implication and there's a political implications very hard now who is Babylon we need to know if you can't say to someone come out of Babylon and not say what Babylon is right I deliver definition well how would you know exactly so let's have a look at the three components of Babylon it's also called the city Babylon was the city revelation 1619 and the great city was divided into three parts so we know that Babylon has three components besides being church and state there are three other aspects and the cities of the nation's fell and the great Babylon came into remembrance before God to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath and I saw in verse 13 three unclean spirits like frogs now frogs were very important Egyptian deities and they were worshiped and one of the plates was a plague of frogs right came out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the Beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet so those are the three components there's the dragon component there's the beast component and there's the false prophet component and Jesus warned there were many false prophets so the false prophet again is divided into many groups called many false prophets now the beast was identified by the Reformation very clearly even in pre-reformation times as the Roman Catholic system the dragon is associated with the religion of the dragon in other words spiritism in all its manifestations and the false prophet you find in Revelation chapter 13 is associated particularly with the second beast of Revelation chapter 13 and that is Protestantism that has reverted back to the Babylonian principles so those three components so all the world's religions will fall into one of these three categories for they are the spirits of Devil's working miracles which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world to gather them to the Battle of that great day of God Almighty so there's going to be a conflict between the mindset of Babylon and God's people okay and who's gonna be involved on the Babylonian side the kings of the earth everybody in the world will be influenced by this so you have to make a choice and there will be a conflict behold I come as a thief blessed is he that watches and keeps his garments lest he walk naked and they see his shame here again you have this illusion to nakedness the robe of righteousness should cover you so here you have righteousness by faith remember Noah was a preacher of righteousness and Abel accepted righteousness by faith in the blood of the Lamb and Cain refused to accept it and he gathered them together into a place called in Hebrew tongue Armageddon mountain of Megiddo with a great conflict between the priests of bale took place and here is this massive conflict so this is steeped in Old Testament apologies the great conflict at the end of time and we need to understand this because our life depends on it we have to make a choice where we stand now I said that the Reformers had identified the beast as Catholicism now let me make it quite plain we're talking about a system we're not talking about people people have to make individual choices and just because a system is defined as being part of Babylon and we'll see why doesn't make the people Babylonians necessarily because they could be deceived right so Bible the Bible tells us quite clearly that God says come out of her who might be my people so where are God's people largely situated in that system in that system but they have to come out now Catholics are very see a believer's and if you take the great reformers in the Reformation they were all Catholic and yet they became the great reformers like Martin Luther and Milan Don and what they were all called right so we're not talking about individuals this is not an attack on anyone that is a Catholic it is a exposition of the system what is wrong with the system I mean after all I was a Roman Catholic but I'm no longer a Roman Catholic because I've recognized that the system is not in harmony with God's Word yes so we'll have to look at that now here is a book that was written in 1946 and it comes from Moody press so this is a beautiful little book it's a very thin little book and if you look it up on Amazon you can see that it can go for an exorbitant price because it's basically out of print right but this was in 1946 and I found it very fascinating to see what the Moody Press had to say about this issue the Bible and the Roman Church the Reformers regarded the Holy Scripture as the sole rule of faith and practice and the sons of the reformers throw the sole rule out of the window that's interesting he's torn to shreds by the dipped in pious hands of the critic with the Bible does the God of the Bible and when we charge Rome with a literal idolatry for a veneration of images relics and so forth she comes back with an accusation of intellectual idolatry in that Protestantism having that the god of Revelation has created a new God the product of apostate thinking now this is not an Adventist sauce this is moody press they realize that there are many many people thousands living in Protestant churches who realize where the problem lies why they have become the product of apostate thinking and why is a consequence they've actually aligned themselves with Babylon and become part of the Babylonian system remember that document we discussed the other day yes Jubilee for the earth Jubilee for the earth is an incredible how steeped in Babylonian wine that document is it actually comes forward as if it's not a Protestant document exactly if it was written by one of them and how many people are sitting in Protestant churches today and they look at the morality that is being proposed and they look at the doctrines how they're being reinterpreted and they are literally devastated some of them are in tears but they don't know where to go and so they're stuck in the system so this is not an only thing this was a 1946 moody press already realized this so they've created a new God the product of apostate thinking Rome is not afraid of modernism it is a fruitful fishing pool because the human heart cannot be satisfied with the vague vaporous uncertainties of modernism Rome addresses herself to those who are under the influence of that emasculated brand of Protestantism and offers the authority of the church founded by Jesus Christ in place of the bewildering and at ease of indifferentism it's brilliantly put so here comes Rome and says you know you are a ship adrift upon an ocean with nowhere to go because you have given up on the principles of the Bible you've attached yourself to modernism and now look at you your morality has gone out of the window you have no anchor come to Mother Church mm-hmm and I will give you an anchor so then your affiliation has to shift from the God of the Bible to a person who claims to be the representative of God here on earth it's a very dangerous thing to be like it stated there Rome is not that doesn't distance itself from moderate modernism no doesn't it embraces it because in that way it can it can take continuous and history writes here all this has to do with modernism what about our man Jellicle ISM we profess the supreme authority of God and of his word but how does it work out in our lives it is not only possible but all too common to be evangelical in doctrine and modernist in practice giving mental assent to the great doctrinal tenets of the faith once delivered to the Saints and at the same time refusing obedience to the standards of the gospel living annunciated with equal authority in the Holy Writ everything goes right yeah in Protestantism today everything goes there's no rule as to diet for example there's no rule as to race or anything the way you worship me now that doesn't mean that they are not individuals who are doing the very best to worship God according to his principle how he believes is right yes and they are sighing and crying for all the evil that is done in the world continues it is one thing to study the scriptures for theological exactness another to submit to them for the regulation regulating of one's life dogmatically we acknowledge Christ Jesus as Lord which title we hold as the title of his deity then how can we yield other than practical submission to him as the Lord of our lives and the god of our salvation now I like this because this is not an Adventist than he's saying you have to have an orderly life you have to live according to the principles today if you say that you're a fanatic full consecration and complete obedience our only logical answer to our profession as evangelicals Rome points to the modernist brand of Protestantism as a fine example of that scripture which says in those days there was no king in Israel and every man did that which was right in his own eyes it's ours to demonstrate that there is a king in Israel cb1 we want to save you but we don't necessarily want the king to rule over us a king has rules yes a king has laws so Protestantism today is a fruitful fishing field for wrong because there's no anchor because they've given up on has God really said these things they don't believe it anymore they don't believe that God really said there was a flood they don't believe that God really said this that bad from the other so then what do you believe here's an interesting book by strong on the conscience and it's the secularization of conscience and here's an abstract Constance was emancipated from institutional religion during the era of the enlightenment so were separated and it is often thought that this was due to secularization during that time paradox early it could be said that it was the consequence of the 16th and 17th century evangelical fervor that's an interesting statement the relationship between conscience and organized religion did not end then altogether it enjoys considerable support in institutionalized Christianity the divine presence still exists quite strongly in the notions of conscience the secularization of conscience examines how conscience drifted from its strong Christian ties and became unchurched and was adopted by 18th century philosophers enlightenment philosophers rejected a narrow conception of conscience and opened its deliberations to larger horizons of social consensus in other words what he's saying is that your conscience in the past used to be dictated by your religious convictions but not has been emancipated from your religious convictions and your conscience is now being dictated to by social consensus so what is right and what is wrong is not determined by the Word of God it is not determined by your religion it is determined by your social environment yes very dangerous very very dangerous because where's your anchor you can go from one social environment to another and be in a totally different social crowd with totally different norms we don't even have to go into the details people can think for themselves right if if in one group something is acceptable it doesn't necessarily make it right exactly so what is your basis for morality according to the scripture now here's a quote from the spirit of prophecy this is an Adventist view the great lesson book study the word the word is the great lesson book for the students in our schools the Bible teaches the whole well of God concerning the sons and daughters of Adam the Bible is the rule of life teaching us of the character we must form for the future immortal life our faith our practice may make us living epistles known and read of all men men need not the dim light of tradition and custom to make the scriptures comprehensible it is just as sensible to suppose that the sun shining in the heavens at noonday needs the glimmering of the torchlight of Earth to increase its glory the fables or the utterances of priests or ministers are not needed to save the student from error consult the divine Oracle and you have light in the Bible every duties made plain every lesson is comprehensible able to fit men for a preparation for eternal life so clearly the Bible is the standard of morality yes here's another quote the gift of Christ and the illumination of the Holy Spirit revealed to us the father and the son the word is exactly adapted to make men and women and youth wise unto salvation in the word is the science of salvation plainly revealed all Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished unto all good works such the Scriptures for therein is the counsel of God the voice of God speaking to the soul the Word of God is the basis of morality this is what Protestants used to believe this is what adventism teaches the Word of God gets you on to that higher plane it gets you on to the higher plane Youth in the name of Jesus I appeal to you my shall soon meet around the throne of God study your Bible it will prove to you not only the pillar of cloud by day but the pillar of light of fire by night it opens before you a path leading up and still upwards bidding you go forward the Bible you do not know it's worth it is the book for the mind for the heart for the conscience the world and the life it is the message of God to you in such simple style that it meets the comprehension of a little child so the Bible is the norm and the standard now the official Bible of the Roman Church is the Vulgate there was accepted by the Council of Trent to be the only infallible Bible in contrast to the Protestant Bible so we're back to manuscripts right this comes from moody press page 19 and this is the same little book by Macaulay in 1946 the Bible and the Roman Church and he writes when the Vulgate was issued by Pope Sixtus v through the accomplishment of anatomist against any would change a word of it it was so full of corruption that it had to be withdrawn and revised and was reissued by Clementine the 8th still under the name of Sixtus now this is not an Adventist source again this is moody press so the Vulgate was so full of corruptions now if you think about what is influence the mind of man to move away from a thus says the Lord there are so many isms let's go some of them the Origin of Species it's also interesting when they were released so here is the introduction to the Origin of Species and it says the mystery of mysteries as it has been called by one of our great philosophers so Darwin says he started thinking about it in 1837 but he actually put it on paper in the year 1844 and then he sent it to everyone and then he finally wrote the book after that so 1844 is the date in which according to the Origin of Species this book was being conceived now 1844 is an interesting date right and this this theory has done more than many other theories to discredit the Bible and to remove the faith of the believers from the Bible and that's why we have all those lectures on evolution if people want to look if you put the links in before you can see them again especially also your lecture on 1844 the David changed okay and also with Darwinism even if you didn't become an atheist you've got a lot of people that actually believe they believe is the Protestants you are Christian but then there's some portion that you don't completely believe what God has God said yes you may be say okay this earth was created in six periods correct but not literal days so that the roots of Darwinism is actually very deep absolutely an theistic evolution is another major problem because theistic evolution leads you to the conclusion that is the mechanism for achieving greatness through natural selection but according to the scripture death is a consequence of sin so there was no death in the beginning so it couldn't have been a mechanism for evolutions so it totally negates the gospel so they interesting that in the same year 1844 the cinetic manuscript code a Sinaiticus was discovered at Mount Sinai and if you look here every if we take the text from the King James Version of genesis 3:15 which is based on the received text then it says and I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed and it shall bruise thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel this is the great promise of redemption in Jesus Christ and the seed of the woman of course between the seed of the woman which is the church and the seed of the devil which is his church and they will be enmity between them until the end and the seed being singular as Paul says welcome which is Christ and he will bruise or crush the head of the Serpent and Christ's will be injured in the heel but if you take the Douay Rheims which is the jesuit version which is the catholic counter to the reformation Bible they put it this way I will put enmity between thee and the woman and thy seed and her seed and she shall crush thy head and thou shalt lie and wait for her heel so that make it a reference to Mary so now Jesus has been taken out of the picture but clearly this is the way in which it should have been put so in other words it is a masculine form another feminine form what's so fascinating is on May the 8th 1844 I mean a lot of things happen in that the leader of the Roman Catholic Church Pope Gregory the 16th sent a letter to the members of the Catholic hierarchy condemning the Bible societies as basically enemies of Catholicism and argued against what he termed the indiscriminate circulation of the scriptures to laypeople this letter was published in the New York Herald on July 15 1844 and it reads in part as follows those Bible societies only care audaciously to stimulate all to a private interpretation of the divine Oracle's to inspire contempt for divine traditions which the Catholic Church preserves upon the authority of the Holy Fathers so if you read the Bible and you interpret the Bible together with the Holy Spirit then according to Rome you are deviating from her principles the reading of the Holy Bible translated into the vulgar or common tongue should not be permitted except to confirm people in the faith now version whatever should be permitted to be read but those which should be approved of the Holy See accompanied by notes derived from the writings of the Holy Fathers who are other learn at Catholic authorities so Ron tells you that only they will interpret the Bible we confirm and renew the decrees against the publication distribution reading and possession of the books of the Holy Scriptures were translated into the vulgar tongue oh I don't have that problem anymore today there was in 1844 they had a major problem I don't have it anymore maybe because the Holy See approved the new Bibles ha ha ha so if you can place content upon the Protestant versions and accept the Roman Catholic versions then you're fine right now the Bible actually warns that there will be an assault of the word 2nd Corinthians 2:17 there are a number of verses here from Corinthians and Jeremiah and and Peter let's read some of them for we are not as many as corrupt the Word of God so there will be people that corrupt God's work or handle the Word of God deceitfully or steal words out of the Word of God Jeremiah I'm against the prophets as the Lord that steal my words in other words don't say what I've actually said or change it pervert the words of the Living God or Peter rest as they do the other scriptures take them out of context so these are all artful ways of the devil rice has got really said it should be like this or like that and which manuscript are you going to use now we've dealt with that so we're not gonna deal with it again or what about making the Word of God of none effect Darwinism right oh god there's a story it's an allegory it's a little fairy tale about a flood and an arc and of us and are there negative man effect or Romans 1:25 changed the truth of God into a lie is that possible since you can take God's Word and change it into a lie cast down the truth this was one of the attributes of the little horn power it cost down the truth to the ground and it practiced and it prospered was very successful or we can see it's been very successful or revelation 6:9 and I saw under the altar the souls of them which had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held so is there a wall around God's Word occasionally could you be killed for it yes have people been killed for it million Millions can it happen again I think the Bible says it will so obviously there's been a rebellion right against God's Word here's a statement from second selected messengers I question whether genuine rebellion is ever curable studying patriarchs and prophets the rebellion of Korah Dathan and abiram thus rebellion was extended including more than two men it was led by 250 princes of the congregation men of renown oh this makes me scared because type can meet anti-type do you think we could have people in our old myths these are the children of Israel who are in rebellion against God's Word or rebellion against the testimonies could it be that there are princes of the congregation leaders in the church that are in this category I really have to question ourselves men of renown call rebellion by its right name and apostasy by its right name and then consider that the experience of the ancient people of God with all its objectionable features was faithfully chronicled to pass into history the scripture declares these things are written for our admonition upon whom the ends of the world are come 1 Corinthians 10 11 and if men and women who have the knowledge of the truth are so far separated from their great leader that they will take the great leader of apostasy and name him Christ our righteousness it is because they have not sunk deep into the minds of the truth they are not able to distinguish the precious ore from the base material so we doubt with the shaking there will be a shaking because we have people in our midst that don't believe the plainest statements in the Bible and when you discuss the book of Revelation they call it a conspiracy theory if you put it into the context of modern times yes I if you use the modern or - the signs happening all over us today then you will be labeled a conspiracy theorist you will be labeled a conspiracy theorist I like what one man says the only person the only people who believe in conspiracy theories are those of us who have studied them Revelation 20 verse 4 and I saw Thrones and they that sat upon them and judgment was given unto them and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God this war has been raging since the time of Cain and Abel and this war were raged til the end of time now what have these people done when they come into conflict with what system why should they be beheaded for the witness of Jesus and the Word of God because I refuse to worship the beast or his image fallen Protestantism church and state coming together neither I've received the mark upon their foreheads the mark of our classical powers that we've changed the Sabbath right and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years the Millennium now we've dealt with these before but just for the sake of clarity let's put them there again now what a second propose to do it proposes that he is capable of changing this Bible these parties that fell understand all about heaven and they can bring in the different sentiments from the Bible and they are going to have a revision of it you will see they will make revisions of the Bible but every one of us needs to stand in on the word we cannot afford to be careless but we must have that simplicity of godliness that is a virtue to us we must have it so I'm a bit scared of all these revisions of the Bible and I like the Protestant Bibles based on the received text so the old German Luther Bible the German slaughter Bible the old Afrikaans translation in South Africa the King James Version or any English Bible based on the received text which with none of the Babylonian changes in it isn't it true that most of the opposition that you have been receiving for the past three months isn't the interpretation that people get from the Bible but then uses modern e-exactly where we discuss that for this the century for example you you cannot even talk about it with the new translation it's so muddled it is the mind and character of the persons who study the scriptures that makes the study dangerous the difficulties will be removed from the way of those who search the scriptures with earnest humble hearts praying to the Lord for wisdom don't read into the Bible what your preconceived ideas is there's to be no cutting out of Scripture no mutilating of the words as the Catholics have done this is a very plain statement the Bible is to be searched as a whole the thing in it hard to be understood will become plain through the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit it doesn't say through the enlightenment of the theologian yes it says through the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit temple in fact said to the theologians of his day that he will make a plowboy do no more the scripture exactly then exactly do you desire to destroy the covenant between yourselves and your God your government means just what it says it is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever declares God declares for in six days the Lord made the heavens and earth and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed this is our evidence you will see here long that there will be those who will become weary of hearing repeat that the things they ought to do but do not desire to do and they will change the wording of the Bible we know what the Lord says in revelation about those who do that a perpetual government is a perpetual government you can't change God's Word now Rome has used its influence to change the Bible and even within Protestant councils they have placed their influence there and they have tried to change the Bible I mean read the Jerome's which we read where Mary will be the one that will crush the head of the serpent that is such a blatant apostasy against the Word of God the Jesuits are against the Protestant Bible and here's a quote from the Jesuits in history and it says this is what the Jesuits said about the Bible they said then the Bible that's serpent with its head erect and eyes flashing threaten with us the Jesuits with its venom while its trails along the ground shall be changed into a rod as soon as we the Jesuits are able to seize it for three centuries past this cruel asper has left us no repose you well know with what folds it in twines us and what fangs it gnaws us they hate the scriptures and they don't base their theology on the scriptures now this is not just an accusation this is not a conspiracy either this is a fact we can study what they write and we can see so to all our Catholic friends out there this is no accusation against you as a Catholic this is a request study your Bible and see if it harmonizes what with what the Church teaches and if it doesn't then flee flee from Babylon but this is also for the other Protestants absolutely with the Bible and their versions of the Bible that they read correct some of them don't even read the whole Bible they just want portions of the Bible so the authority of the Holy Spirit is replaced by the authority of man when you take God out of the equation carnal Josias president of the Great Council of Trent which is the council where Protestantism and Catholicism split right affirm that apart from the authority of the church the scripture would have no more weight than the fables of ESOP that's quite a statement it comes from Wiley the papacy so this is a very reputable source so according to Rome the Bible has no authority whatsoever unless it is interpreted by the church it's interesting that in Orthodox Jewish circles you have the same thing it has to be interpreted by the rabbis because the layman hasn't got the right to interpret the Scriptures so they support this position by invoking 2nd Peter 1 verse 20 but they totally ignore verse 21 because verse 20 says knowing this first that no prophecy of Scripture is in any private interpretation so they say okay the church has to interpret it for you but verse 21 says for the prophecy came not in old times by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost so who's the interpreter only ghosts are the ghost is the interpreter not the church herein lies the answer to both the era of private interpretation and the heresy of papal interpretation because you can have a private interpretation and that's a reticle you're gonna read into it what you want and you can change the wording to take out what is objectionable Matthew 11 verse 28 says come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest Christ has come to me directly you don't have to go virus system well verse 23 in John 14 jesus answered and said unto him if a man love me will keep my words and my father will love him and we will come at him and make our boat with him so what is your duty according to Christ it doesn't say if a man love me he will follow the directives of the church he says if a man love me he will keep my words where do I find these words in the Bible 1 John 2:20 but you have an unction from the Holy One and you know all things so who is your teacher God 1 John 2 verse 27 but the anointing which you have received of him abideth in you and you need not that any man teach you it's pretty clear but as the same anointing teaches you of all things and his truth and is no lie and even as it has taught you ye shall abide in him we don't need a human being sometimes it's good to listen to advice and to read what other people have said but in the final analysis you have to say to yourself what is God saying what is God saying if you take the Sabbath issue and you read in the Bible the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord God and the minister says we keep the first day their problem that God really say I'd really say so now let's get to the nitty-gritty and ask ourselves what is the doctrine of the serpent and what is the doctrine of Devil's that we find in Babylon because must be one in the same right so we need to understand what Babylon teaches and we need to separate ourselves from it and the criterion must be the Word of God Genesis chapter 3 this is where we actually started another certain serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made and had said unto the woman yea as God said ye shall not eat of every tree in the of the garden is that questioning and of course the serpent wasn't the subtlety it was the one who was using him as a medium the devil himself and the woman said unto the serpent we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden but of the fruit of the tree we seized in the midst of the garden God has said ye shall not eat of it neither shall ye touch it lest ye die God is very fair he didn't put it in an obscure place he put it right there in the middle confronted by choices are we confronted by choices yes absolutely or they just sort of vague there's someone or they're quite prominent from it but the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of garden God has said you shall not eat of it neither shall ye touch it lest he die and the serpent said unto the woman ye shall not surely die there's his first blatant contradiction of God's Word for God knows that in the day ye eat thereof your eyes shall be opened we shall be as gods there's his second blatant contradiction you will be immortal in fact you will be like God and the third contradiction you will know good and evil you yourself will determine what is right and what is wrong you don't need God to tell you what is right and what is wrong you will tell your self what is right and what is wrong you will be totally independent you will be indestructible so let's look at that first lie you shall not surely die and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul he didn't receive a living soul he became a living soul so the dust of the ground plus the breath the metabolism made him a living soul now you have to have both of these they must be the dust a breath and that's a soul there's not a soul existing separately not from this so you're either alive and you're metabolizing you have a respiratory activity or you are dead for the living know that they shall die but the dead know not anything now that's contrary to what most people believe today they think that you are very wise up there and know many things but the dead know nothing neither have they any more reward for the memory of them is forgotten that it as ayah tells us in chapter 26 verse 19 thy dead man shall live together with my dead body shall they arise awake and see ye that dwell in the dust for the ideas as the dew of herbs and the earth shall cast out dead so the Old Testament teachers will replay me that when you die you are all dust but there will be a resurrection and they will come up together together with my dead body we will rise so there will be a death and there will be a resurrection Daniel confirms it and says and many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt so there's a resurrection of life and there's a resurrection of death so there's a judgment death is called asleep Psalms 37 verse 27 but the wicked shall perish and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs they shall consume into smoke they shall consume away so in other words those that are resurrected to receive eternal damnation what happens to them fire comes down the Bible says in Revelation and consumes them and they will consume away there would be as though nothing left they never were Deuteronomy 5:20 wife says now therefore why should we die for this great fire will consume us talking about the fire of month Sinai if we hear the voice of the Lord our God any more than we shall die it's interesting that those who live in the presence of God actually live in that eternal fires they woke me in the fire and the devil turns it around it's the master of reversal he says the damnation is to live eternally in the fire and that is to be damned no to be saved is to live eternally in the fire where did Lucifer before he fell he walked amongst the fiery stones what about the three were these means they weren't consumed in the fire because they were in the presence of God and God protected them with his righteousness and these beautiful symbolism in Revelation 2 or of Jesus that also has fire in his eyes and I think yes he's like burnished brass so even Satan will be destroyed according to the scriptures a kill 28:18 says that has defiled by sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities by the iniquity of that traffic therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of the it shall devour thee and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth and the sight of all them that behold thee so the final destruction is by fire and the consequences of this fire is eternal now we're gonna not going to do a major Bible study on the state of the Dead but you could perhaps put a link in there well as it is one of the pillars that we say is yes we haven't spoken of but we you've done pretty much a good explanation of it now there's a more detailed one I think it's called the mystic realm of death and put that in the links but now the point of this is to see what is wrong teach now here's the office of the Catechism and regarding this verse article 366 of the Catechism says the church not the Bible teacher said every spiritual soul is immortal it does not perish when it separates from the body a death the Bible says something else do they know what the Bible says it's important that they say the Church teaches them here's the new Catholic Encyclopedia so obviously they are aware of what the Bible teaches and it says the human immortality the soul in the old testament means not a part of a man but the whole man as a living being that's exactly what the scripture said the dust plus the breath a man became a living being so they know what the Scripture teaches similarly in the New Testament it signifies human life so it's the human being the life of the individual conscious object the human being and then it talks about how they interpreted they've maintained that the New Testament the new the recent exodus does not teach the immortality of the soul in the Hellenistic sense of survival of an immortal principle after death so the Bible doesn't teach what people believe today that is actually a Greek philosophy that there is a soul that separates from the body at death yes so the Roman Catholic Church says we as a church teach that you are mortal you will not die we know that the bible does not teach it but we prefer the Greek philosophy yes that's what's actually exactly what they say that's what they're saying so the Bible says one thing and they're saying another thing and they put it on they have the authority because they're the judge okay now what are they believing are they believing the serpent or they're believing the Word of God serpent it's the serpent theology okay let's just make sure this is Pope Leo the 10th on Monday December 19 fifteen hundred and thirteen issued a bow declaring we do condemn and reprobate all who assert that the intelligent soul is mortal this bull was directed against the growing heresy of those who denied the natural immortality of the soul and about the conditional immortality of man now it's interesting that Martin Luther himself came to believe that when you die you sleep in the dust so he was actually subject to this Bo it's also interesting that the Lutheran's today scrap that belief of these they don't put it into their catechism so what are they believing immortality of the soul so they believe what wrong teachers so is that Babylonian doctrine or is that biblical doctrine never learning it's Babylonian okay just to be clear that means they believe when you die your soul still lives on yes now remember there's a dragon component in the beast and we said that all religions that have the dragon aspect in other words what he teaches must also have this belief so let's go to spiritism even early spiritus leaders admitted that their communication was with Satan himself in sprintin a Norwegian spiritists periodical the following statement is made spiritism is the serpent in paradise offering man to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that's a very interesting statement Moses how a leading Spiritist lecturer of that early time makes the following statement a truthful snake in answer to the question who then are we to believe God or Satan I answer the facts in every case in the Bible justify us in believing Satan he has ever been truthful this is more than can be said of the other one it was not the devil but God who made the mistake in the Garden of Eden it was God and not the devil who was a murderer from the beginning sure that's quite stunning all right all right this is pretty direct from these spirits this comes from splittin December 15 1899 and another source is facts of faith page 200 mate now my question is the in essence what wrong teachers is exactly the same they don't spell it out like this but they believe the serpent rise because the serpent said you will surely not die so that's what they teach so that's serpent theology now what are the other major religions believe I believe exactly the same right okay it's interesting here's the house of the Fox sisters where modern spiritism was born yes it says the birthplace of modern spiritism upon this site stood the heights ville cottage the home of the Fox sisters and where the spirit world was established March 31 1848 there is no death there are no dead so that is basically the teaching but of course it started before 1848 actually if we go back in history mother and Lee started off the Quakers on the road to quaking the spirit world into the modern society and they also denied the bodily resurrection this was an issue between the Pharisees and the Sadducees right and communicated with the spirits in seance type meetings and the time just before 1844 but in 1844 the wrapping started in the house that would be made famous by the Fox sisters so again we have that date 1844 so it seems as if round and spiritism on the same page when it comes to the state of the Dead yes and Protestantism it's also gone over it's also on that same page so the dragon the beast and the false prophet all have this doctrine in common and if you separate yourself from that doctrine and believe something else then according to them you will be a heretic and the Pope put it in an Anatomy right so he put it into one of these decrees now let us go to the other ones but I think perhaps we should do that in a further and a follow-up in a follow-up then we will do the others which become very interesting where the issue is that you will become gods which is the basis of the New Age movement and who's behind that New Age movement and then of course the issue of determining for yourself outside of Scripture what the basis of morality is and when we understand that these doctrines of the system are totally contrary to the Bible then we can get a clearer understanding of what constitutes the Babylonian mindset and what it is that God's people must separate please what do they have to come out of thanks so till the next episode will you pray for us I mean father thank you so much for the blessings that we can receive from you we ask that you bless all of us and keep us till the next 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